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196. Keira D'Amato, Pro Runner & American Record Holder In the Marathon · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: I'm just so proud of myself that I had the
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  Speaker 1: courage to find out what if and to go down
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  Speaker 1: that road and not knowing where it would lead and
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  Speaker 1: if it would turn into something beautiful like it did,
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  Speaker 1: or if it just kind of, you know, one of
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  Speaker 1: those enjoy the journey kind of things.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Emily A body here coming to you from
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  Speaker 2: the Age Studio. You are listening to episode one ninety
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  Speaker 2: six of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast. Reconnect with everyone
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  Speaker 2: from your favorite athletes to top experts and industry CEOs
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  Speaker 2: about their highest hies, toughest moments, and everything in between.
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  Speaker 3: We all go through hurdles in life.
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  Speaker 2: And my goal through these discussions is to empower you
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  Speaker 2: to better navigate yours and move with intentions so that
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  Speaker 2: you can stride towards your own big potential and of
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  Speaker 2: course have some fun a lot the way. Let me
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  Speaker 2: tell you today's episode, there is a lot. There's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of fun. Kira Dematto the newly minted, newly minted
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  Speaker 2: American record holder in the Woman's Marathon. She is a
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  Speaker 2: professional runner and my new bff. Don't just take it
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  Speaker 2: from me, Kira says so. In our convote I absolutely
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  Speaker 2: loved the opportunity to chat with Kia Dematta today, not
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  Speaker 2: far removed from her shiny new American record of two hours,
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  Speaker 2: nineteen minutes and twelve seconds, breaking Dina Caster's previous record
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  Speaker 2: from London in two thousand and six. I adore Kira.
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  Speaker 2: I adore her energy, I adore her spirit. It didn't
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  Speaker 2: hurt that we started today's conversation with her complimenting me.
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  Speaker 2: But there are so many sentiments, takeaways, and awesome nuggets
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  Speaker 2: of wisdom in our conversation today that I am excited
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  Speaker 2: to bring to you, regardless of whether or not you
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  Speaker 2: are a runner, that are helpful and useful and wonderful.
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  Speaker 2: Kira's journey is one of perseverance and grint. In today's episode,
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  Speaker 2: she talks about her brief stint as a professional athlete
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  Speaker 2: after college, stepping away from the sport ultimately because of
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  Speaker 2: an injury, and pursuing other things in life that made
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  Speaker 2: her happy during that time, including getting married, becoming a
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  Speaker 2: mother of two, also a full time realtor, only to
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  Speaker 2: find her way back to running after dabbling in a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of other sports and modalities, knowing that this was
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  Speaker 2: a at the time hobby, that brought her so much joy,
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  Speaker 2: and soon enough that hobby would become a fiery, very
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  Speaker 2: very real commitment to self and going after her big
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  Speaker 2: crazy goals. For episode one ninety six, Kira talks about
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  Speaker 2: what it's been like for her to juggle so many hats,
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  Speaker 2: what it was like to have a breakout year during
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty and the prep and the build up that
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  Speaker 2: came to that record breaking Houston Marathon at the beginning
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  Speaker 2: of twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 3: Plus what's on tab next?
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  Speaker 2: And if you are not inspired to eat at least
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  Speaker 2: a full sleeve?
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  Speaker 3: Is it a sleeve?
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  Speaker 2: There's three sleeves in one pack, a half pack, a
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  Speaker 2: single sleeve?
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  Speaker 3: You go what I'm saying of oreos?
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  Speaker 2: By the times conversation is over, well, then you weren't
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  Speaker 2: listening appropriately.
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  Speaker 3: Kira, again, a huge thank you for your time.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait for you to get your cuteness over
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  Speaker 2: to New York so that we can go on a
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  Speaker 2: custom cookie tour and planning it right now as I
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  Speaker 2: record this, huge thank you, huge thank you to all
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  Speaker 2: the Baltimore hurdlers that came out to hang out last week.
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  Speaker 3: It was so great to meet you, irl.
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  Speaker 2: And if you're listening to this and I met you
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  Speaker 2: at the BBYO International Convention. I am better for having
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  Speaker 2: the opportunity to speak to goodness so many teens.
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  Speaker 3: You all inspire me to want to be a better me.
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  Speaker 2: DC hurdler, save the date from March sixteenth.
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  Speaker 3: I'm coming your way. We're gonna have some fun.
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  Speaker 2: More info and details to come soon, but I want
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  Speaker 2: with that.
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  Speaker 3: Let's gets hurdling today.
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  Speaker 2: I am sitting down with Kira Dematto. She is a
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  Speaker 2: pro runner. I feel as though she needs no introduction.
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  Speaker 2: But how you doing, Kia.
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  Speaker 1: I am doing wonderful and I'm so thrilled to be
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  Speaker 1: on your podcast. Your voice is the best voice in
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  Speaker 1: the world. I started listening to your podcast and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: h I'm a dick, Like, you have the most amazing voice,
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  Speaker 1: and I am so excited to be able to talk
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  Speaker 1: to you in your voice.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sitting here. If you could see me, maybe I'll
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  Speaker 3: post this clip.
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  Speaker 2: But I feel like, just now, I was that emoji
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  Speaker 2: with like the big open watery eyes when it's just like,
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  Speaker 2: that's so kind, you know what I feel as though
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  Speaker 2: when you have a voice that is like not typical,
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  Speaker 2: Like I know, I'm very aware that I have a
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  Speaker 2: different voice. So you people either love my voice or
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  Speaker 2: they're like, I am all set with that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it is. It is beautiful. I have serious voice envy.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you're very kind to me. You're very kind to me.
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  Speaker 3: This is about you. It's not necessarily about me.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna turn this around for you while bringing
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  Speaker 2: my own experience into this moment. This is a fun
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  Speaker 2: full circle moment for me because in the first six
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  Speaker 2: months of the show, I was really excited because I
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  Speaker 2: had Dina Castor on the show, and we actually recorded
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  Speaker 2: in a London hotel room, and I remember thinking to
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  Speaker 2: myself like, this is such a great get for the podcast,
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  Speaker 2: like it's so crazy, and also simultaneously thinking to myself
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  Speaker 2: like how much longer is this woman gonna hold this
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  Speaker 2: rected four? And now fast forward four years later, I'm
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  Speaker 2: sitting here with you, the person that broke that record.
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  Speaker 2: The show is in a completely different place, and I
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  Speaker 2: am just so excited to learn more about you than
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  Speaker 2: what I have completely consumed on every other podcast I've
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  Speaker 2: listened to, but also just like hear about your journey
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  Speaker 2: because it is it's such a big moment, not just
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  Speaker 2: for you and your family and your career, but women's
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  Speaker 2: running as a whole.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I absolutely agree. And I think on that day
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  Speaker 1: that I broke Dina Castor's record, Sarah Hall also broke
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  Speaker 1: the American record for the half marathon, and I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was just such a powerful day for American distance
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  Speaker 1: women running, for two women in their late thirties to
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  Speaker 1: be crushing it. I think it is just so exciting
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  Speaker 1: just to open up. I feel like the floodgates have
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  Speaker 1: just opened and we're about to see a lot more
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  Speaker 1: records go down, and it's just really exciting to see
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  Speaker 1: where that is now going to propel our country.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to get us too far ahead here,
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  Speaker 2: but I do think that the sentiment of you getting
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  Speaker 2: back into running because it was something that brought you
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  Speaker 2: joy again later in life after having previous experience as
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  Speaker 2: a runner, that is something that a lot of women
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  Speaker 2: and men too may think about, but they're like, eh.
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  Speaker 3: You know, maybe not, maybe I shouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but like seeing that behavior modeled and
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  Speaker 2: for you for it to pay off in such a
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  Speaker 2: big way, for sure, I do believe it's just the
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  Speaker 2: tip of the iceberg.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: For like a decade before, I guess it was. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I took about seven years off between round one of
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  Speaker 1: my competitive running in round two, and I call it
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  Speaker 1: like my elaborate halftime show. But for like seven years
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  Speaker 1: while I wasn't running competitively, like, I was thinking like
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  Speaker 1: what if, you know, and what would have? Could have?
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  Speaker 1: Should have? You know? And so I sat with those
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  Speaker 1: feelings and I learned to kind of accept that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't reach those dreams and I didn't have those
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  Speaker 1: like goals anymore. But then just coming back, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: so proud of myself. I had the courage to like
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  Speaker 1: find out what if and to go down that road
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  Speaker 1: and not knowing where it would lead and if it
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  Speaker 1: would turn into something beautiful like it did, or if
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  Speaker 1: it just kind of, you know, one of those enjoy
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  Speaker 1: the journey kind of things. But I think that that's
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  Speaker 1: something that like a lot of people can relate to,
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  Speaker 1: is they have that thing that maybe they aren't pursuing
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  Speaker 1: because of life or parents or just a crazy work schedule,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And I think it's just important to be
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  Speaker 1: able to carve out a little bit of time for
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  Speaker 1: the you know, those little passions.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you said the word courage and it is courageous, right,
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  Speaker 2: because you have to go into this being entirely open
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  Speaker 2: to whatever may happen as a result of kind of
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  Speaker 2: getting vulnerable with yourself again. Right, So for you to
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  Speaker 2: be like, all right, I'm gonna try this thing, you
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  Speaker 2: had to go into it with a certain amount of
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  Speaker 2: grace knowing that it could go really well, it could
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  Speaker 2: not go really well, and that that definition of the
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  Speaker 2: word well was going to evolve over.
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  Speaker 1: Time, absolutely absolutely. And I think from my I like
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  Speaker 1: previous running and then I you know, took some time back.
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  Speaker 1: I learned a lot about failure. You know. I had
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  Speaker 1: those dreams that I didn't hit and I was so
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  Speaker 1: scared of failure, and then I experienced it, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't that bad. I'm still happy, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: still Kira. Like I found other things that I really
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  Speaker 1: like too, and so coming into this round not being
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  Speaker 1: afraid of the failure so I can line up and
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  Speaker 1: like I remember thinking the morning I'm on the starting line,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and two hours and nineteen minutes later, I
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  Speaker 1: set the American record. But my thought was, maybe it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna happen today, maybe it's not. If it does, great,
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  Speaker 1: if it doesn't, I'm still I'm gonna be exactly where
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  Speaker 1: I am right now, and that's okay too. So I
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  Speaker 1: think that being able just to accept that risk and
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  Speaker 1: not being afraid of what happens if I fail, has
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  Speaker 1: really allowed me to like, you know, accomplish these things.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I was listening to one of the
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  Speaker 2: conversations that you had with Chris Chavez on the City
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  Speaker 2: of mag podcast, and you were talking about the time
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  Speaker 2: that you decided to set up a one hundred meter
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  Speaker 2: race with your husband after seeing that runoff for was
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  Speaker 2: it at the Olympics.
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  Speaker 3: I'm forgetting the details now.
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  Speaker 1: So it was the Olympic trials in twenty twelve, and
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  Speaker 1: there was that there's two women that tied for third
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  Speaker 1: place and the uf pits the top three, so two
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  Speaker 1: women tied and then there was going to be a
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  Speaker 1: race off. So my husband and I like we should
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  Speaker 1: do a race off, and so like we literally went
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  Speaker 1: into our street and like marked off what we thought
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  Speaker 1: was close to one hundred meters and like race and
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  Speaker 1: one of us took one of the women. One of
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  Speaker 1: us pretended to be the other one, and I remember
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  Speaker 1: when name he remembers that he won. So I think
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  Speaker 1: there's clearly two sides that story. But it was just
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  Speaker 1: so fun and that's where I was at that point.
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  Speaker 1: It's just kind of watching track as a spectator and
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  Speaker 1: just enjoying it as a fan.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 2: And it was funny because I listened to you say that,
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  Speaker 2: and I texted a dear friend of mine, Kara, and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, you and your husband are Kira and
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  Speaker 2: her husband like you two both runners would do the
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  Speaker 2: exact same thing.
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  Speaker 3: And she said to me that she had heard or
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  Speaker 3: read ones that you said.
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  Speaker 2: Every race that you start, you think this could be
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  Speaker 2: the last race I'll ever have to run, and if
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  Speaker 2: I don't like it, I don't have to do it again.
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  Speaker 2: And she was like that has become my one hundred
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  Speaker 2: percent attitude for every single race I show up too.
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  Speaker 1: At some point in a race, I call it the
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  Speaker 1: embrace the suck, where just like everything hurts, like your
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  Speaker 1: body's tired, it's trying to convince your mind to stop.
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  Speaker 1: And in that like more times than not, I convinced
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  Speaker 1: myself during that time, like okay, body, don't give up
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  Speaker 1: on me this time. Just push through, and then we
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  Speaker 1: never have to do this again, like this will be
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  Speaker 1: our last run. We just never have to run again
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  Speaker 1: if we won't want to. So it's like I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if that's good or bad. And you know, and
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  Speaker 1: I think partly with running, like it's just so mental
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  Speaker 1: that you have to say whatever it is to like
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  Speaker 1: get yourself through and then afterwards like you're so proud
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  Speaker 1: that you pushed through that, right, and then you figured
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  Speaker 1: out what to say, like trick your mind and body
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  Speaker 1: to like discover like your new limits. But it is.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've thought that my whole life. I remember
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  Speaker 1: my first race I ever did. I thought that in
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  Speaker 1: this last marathon, I thought that same thought. You know,
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  Speaker 1: so it's just it's just pretty funny.
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  Speaker 2: Are you not concerned at this point with what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: You're obviously you have a large platform. You're very well
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  Speaker 2: known in the sport now, I would hope so being
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  Speaker 2: the American woman's record holder in the marathon, do are
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  Speaker 2: you not concerned with what other people think about what
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  Speaker 2: you do? I hope.
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  Speaker 1: As far as like my technique and my style, I'm
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  Speaker 1: okay that I'm doing everything differently. Like that's totally fine
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  Speaker 1: because I feel like with anything in life, like it's
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  Speaker 1: you can take a very individual path and get there.
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  Speaker 1: I always say there's more than one way up the mountain.
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  Speaker 1: But as far as like caring what people think like
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  Speaker 1: I do, like, I hope they As far as my character, right,
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  Speaker 1: I hope they think I'm a kind person, a supportive
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  Speaker 1: person like I. You know, so I do that really
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  Speaker 1: means a lot to me that like just to empower
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  Speaker 1: other women and to support other women, like I would
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  Speaker 1: feel terrible if people didn't think that about me. But
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  Speaker 1: as far as like my technique and the way that
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  Speaker 1: I do it, I'm okay taking the you know, pathless taken.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I mean I ask you that because I
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  Speaker 2: think that that fear or like concern over the opinions
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  Speaker 2: of others can be something that unfortunately does hold some
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  Speaker 2: people back when it comes to maybe putting themselves out
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  Speaker 2: there to get back into something or looking foolish.
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  Speaker 3: So for you, I mean it.
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  Speaker 2: Is impressive and also just really admirable that even if
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  Speaker 2: that was a factor in how you went upon your execution,
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  Speaker 2: like it wasn't the thing that held you back from
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  Speaker 2: going after the thing that you wanted, right, And I think.
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  Speaker 1: Like I have different like constraints and strengths, I guess
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  Speaker 1: for training, so I have to fill that all in.
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  Speaker 1: Like I am a mother of two and I'm also
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  Speaker 1: a full time realtor, so I have to work around
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  Speaker 1: and find a new way to fit everything into my life.
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  Speaker 1: So whereas you know, some people may look at that
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  Speaker 1: as like a weakness that I have other things for me,
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  Speaker 1: I see that as a strength that I don't obsess
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  Speaker 1: over running, Like when I take off my running shoes,
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  Speaker 1: it's on to real estate or being mom or being
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  Speaker 1: a wife, and I think for me that helps me.
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  Speaker 1: I can be an anxious person, So for me, it's
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  Speaker 1: a gift to be able to distract my mind and
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  Speaker 1: to work towards other things. So I'm just not thinking
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  Speaker 1: and obsessing overrunning. So, you know, I think just everyone
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  Speaker 1: has their own way and their own I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm even trying to say, but I think everyone
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  Speaker 1: needs to do it a little bit differently.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear that. Well.
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  Speaker 2: I feel as though we owe it to some of
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  Speaker 2: the hurdlers to definitely do a little bit of a
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  Speaker 2: dial back now so that they can get a better
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  Speaker 2: understanding of what's going on here. I mean, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: surprised we hit the ground running. And yeah, I know you,
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  Speaker 2: of all people appreciate a good pun, a good joke.
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  Speaker 3: Where do those Strava puns come from?
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  Speaker 1: So they originate from popsicle sticks, you know, those like
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  Speaker 1: I'd give my kids those popsicle sticks where you get
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  Speaker 1: like a joke on the end and then you have
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  Speaker 1: to eat the popsicle to find out what like the
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  Speaker 1: riddle or the joke answer is. So that's where it
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  Speaker 1: started coming from. Because we were like really crushing a
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  Speaker 1: lot of popsicles in my house. I would just kind
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  Speaker 1: of save the sticks and put them up on Strava
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  Speaker 1: because Strava is awesome. But when you scroll through, like
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  Speaker 1: if you don't change, the automatic run title is just
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  Speaker 1: morning run, afternoon run, night run, and that's kind of like,
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of boring, you know. So I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: like spice it up and maybe make people smile. And
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  Speaker 1: then like I stopped doing it for a little bit
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  Speaker 1: and I'd get like, morning runs not a joke, Hira,
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  Speaker 1: like come on, you know, let's you know, and so
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  Speaker 1: then I was like, I guess I gotta keep this going.
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  Speaker 1: So then it's just like a combination of jokes I've
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  Speaker 1: heard throughout my life and I have like the worst memory,
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  Speaker 1: but somehow jokes like find a way that implants there
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  Speaker 1: like in my brain. So I just don't forget them.
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  Speaker 1: Like I wish I could like remove part of that
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  Speaker 1: and like hold on to like a little bit, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, just more important stuff. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: just have part of my brain carved out for jokes.
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  Speaker 3: I guess part of my brain carved out for jokes.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: So for those of you that don't follow Kira on
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Strava or use Strava. When you go for a run,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: it automatically uploads to this app, and as we're saying,
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: it automatically uploads and just usually says like time of
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: day run, so morning run, afternoon run, evening run, and
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: instead you can edit that. So Kira edits them and
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: puts in lots of funny jokes and it's always you
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: know what, it is a nice break in my feed
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: of like what's going on. It's like all this seriousness
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: and then it's like insert like the funniest dad joke
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: you've ever heard here.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Well, the best part of that now that people know
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: I like jokes so much, is people, even people I
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: don't know, will hear a joke and they'll send it
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: to me and be like, oh, I just saw this
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: joke on a billboard or someone just told me this
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: joke and I thought you like it. And every time
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I receive a joke, I just think like I'm doing
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: something right, like something makes someone else laugh. I think
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: kured like this, like I am doing something right. This
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: is awesome.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: It's the best feeling.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: It's the best feeling to get that kind of interaction, and.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: It's like it's not like You're awesome.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: It's just like I love what you do and I
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: just want to support that thing that you do that
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: brings so many other people so much joy, right right,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: what I was getting to And then we got punny,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: and then I talked about us hitting the ground running.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: I want to bring it back. I want to bring
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: us back at least to college. So talk to me
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: about you know, coming of age and what your relationship
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: was with running from a young age.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So this, I think how I'm about to describe,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: like my journey with running is why I love running
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: so much, is that it can evolve and it can
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: be different things to you and like in a different
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: part of your life, in different phases, and you just
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: need it in different ways. So I started in high
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: school just to be part of a team and I
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: liked running, and I thought I was fast, but like
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I think running at that point was a way that
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I built my confidence and had like a friend group
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: and then just a way to like participate in sport.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I've always been a fan of sports, and that went well,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: and I got the opportunity to run for American University
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: in college, and then I started seeing like the competitive
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: aspect and I had like bigger goals and bigger dreams,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: and I started taking it more seriously. And that's when
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I started seeing like running could be something that I
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: do after college too, and so that kind of opened
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: my eyes that this could be a career also. So
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: it's now just something you know, for friends to competitive
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: to something that you could, you know, turn your life
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: around for. So after college, I ran post collegiately for
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: a couple of years for a professional running team in
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the DC area called DC Elite. And after about two
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: years I had I started getting these like perpetual injuries
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: and my ankle and we found out later it was
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: because it's something called Tarsel coalition where I had two
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: bones in my foot that were connected, so I needed
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: to have surgery, but surgery wasn't covered. They said it
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: was the pre existing condition, so I wasn't able to
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: do that. So that's when I kind of retired from
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: like my first round of running. But you know, and
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: it was hard because I felt like I was kind
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: of pushed out, not on my terms, like I felt
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: like it was kind of taken from me, and all
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: those dreams that I fell short of, I just felt
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: like those were kind of like stolen from me in
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: a way, and then I felt like I was quitting too,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Like I was down on myself at first, and now
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: you know, got into I originally got into like it work,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: and my identity had always been so wrapped up in running.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I was cure of the runner, but I'm now cure
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: the runner who doesn't run. So that was just like
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: a strange time figuring out, Okay, then what does Kira do?
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: And so I got involved with a lot of different
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: things and I figured out that cure is more than
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: just a runner. And I think that was such an
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: important lesson to learn. And I know a lot of
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: like athletes struggle with that that have played in high
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: school and college even professionally, just trying to figure out
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: like all the parts that make them who they are.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: So that was I think a really important phase of
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: my life.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: For you, when you were in those really challenging times
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: trying to figure out who it was that you were
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: when you weren't running, how did you find these strength
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: to kind of pick yourself up from that low place.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I felt like I just didn't have
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: another option, right, I can I can figure this out
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and figure out a new way to be happy. I
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: can figure out new passions and new things to pursue,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: or it can be sad, and that option kind of sucks,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: you know. So I just I tried to focus on
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the things that were in my control, and it was
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: exciting to now have like a nine to five career
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: and build new friendships. And I got into cycling for
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: like a few years, and I did CrossFit. I got
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: real into CrossFit for a time. So it was fun
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: to then take in just my athleticness and put it
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: into other realms. And I never felt like I found
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: like that love with running, but I really enjoyed it,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: and I really loved being you know. If a girlfriend
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: was like, Hey, I'm going to go for a walk,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like walking, I love walking, Let's walk. Hey I'm
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: going to go to spin class, I'm like, I love spin,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Let's go spin.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: So it was just it was so fun just to
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: be able to do whatever I felt like and not
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: have any goals, not have any pressure. Eventually I got
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: that ankle surgery, and then I was able to put
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: running back in my life, and I wasn't quite ready
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: to dedicate my whole life around it, like I associated
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: running with taking it super seriously and just my whole
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: world was eat, sleep, run, and I wasn't ready for that,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: and I didn't think I ever really wanted that, because
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: now it was this more dynamic version of Kira. I
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: got married, we were moving it around, we had two kids.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I became a real estate agent. I work for my
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: mom's brokerage in Virginia, and I didn't want to. I thought,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: if to compete at that level, I had to like
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: that all up or just limit that. So I'm like,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: you know what, I love running for fun. Let's just
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: keep running for fun. And that's when it just started
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: kind of snowballing.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: What was the catalyst for you to decide that you
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: wanted to go through with the foot surgery?
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Later on, it was.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Once my insurance permitted it. So when I started working it,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I had really great insurance and then it was available,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: so I'm like, well, I might as well do this,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: you know, I think for the rest of my life
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: like I'm gonna need to do it, get it done,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: so I might as well just do it now. So
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: it was kind of just like I guess I should.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: You and me both had a CrossFit phase. Did you
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: get injured, so you stopped doing CrossFit?
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: No, but I was like I was good at when
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: they're like, okay this you need to do this, I'm like, yeah,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: not doing that one. You know, I was able to
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: like turn it down. But and then that, you know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I was okay like doing like using a band to
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: do push ups or something like. I was okay like supplementing,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, I never got injured.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: But I feel like the legacy like good thing that
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I have from my crossbit days and like I'm gonna
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: compliment you, like I still have some pretty great arms
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: from doing CrossFit like five years ago.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: I know you have great arms.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I've seen these finish line photos and there's always like
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: a great pump in there.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I also got like my squat got so
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: great from doing crossfits, so I was able to max
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: squat like really good. I had really good, like good
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: glutes at that time, let's put it that way.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: At that time, I had great glutes.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, this is my good glutes, good glut phase
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: of my life.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my goodness. So did let's touch on real
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: estate for a moment. So did you always want to
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: were you always like interested in going into that field
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: of work or did that kind of happen just on
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: a whim.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't always interested in it. I mean, I
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: grew up. I'm now a third generation realtor, so my
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: grandmother was a realtor, my mom was a realtor, so
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: in a way, I felt like I was kind of
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: destined to be a realtor. So I resisted that, you know, like,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: you know, no one's gonna tell me to do I
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: can do whatever I want. But you know, but I
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: grew up watching my mom and going with her to
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: open houses or you know, doing X y Z and
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: just seeing her life as a realder. So eventually, when
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: we got to that point with my husband and I
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and we weren't moving around with military anymore, it kind
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: of just fit then. So yeah, I came over and
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know how I waited so long
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: to do this, because I do feel like it's just
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: in my blood. Like I love real estate. I love
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: helping people with most of the time the most exciting,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: you know, purchase of their life. So yeah, it's been
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: a great career.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: And then another meaningful title that you have here is
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: also mom talk to us about you and your husband,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: having your kids, and what it was like to charge
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: on working full time while also having this new title.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: We had our son, Tommy in twenty fourteen, and actually,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: this is a pretty funny story. So we were living
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: in Tampa, Florida at the time and we had signed
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: up they have a Gasparilla festival where they have four
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: races in one weekend and we were running kind of
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: for fun, not super seriously, and my husband were like, yeah,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: let's do all four races. This would be great. So
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: we signed up for all four and like, after the
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: first day, like it just did not go well. I
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: was feeling like really terrible. And then so I told
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: my husband, I'm like, what if, Like I'm pregnant. What
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: if maybe that's why this didn't go well today? And
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: then he's like, Kira, like, you know, we just didn't
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: really think we were ready for that, but we just
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: didn't know if it would I don't know if that
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: was the time. So I was like, Hey, if I'm pregnant,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do the racist tomorrow, Okay, I'm gonna
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: take a pregnancy real quick test, real quick. And I
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: was like, please be positive, because one we really want
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: a child, but also I don't want to race tomorrow.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: So I did the test and it was positive, and
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I'm gonna bail out on the
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: races tomorrow because I just found out we're pregnant. So
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: that was really that was really, uh, that was really
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: but yeah, he got me out of doing those two
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: races the next day. That was I've been off a
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: little more. I could chew for that weekend.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Tommy going in with a splash.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Tommy.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Perfect timing, perfect timing. So that's baby number one and
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: baby number two.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Baby number two came about two years later. We moved
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: from Tampa to Virginia to be close to family, and
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: my husband, who was in the active duty he's an
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: officer for the Air Force, got out of active duty
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: and now as part of the Virginia Air National Guard.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: And we did that because we then we could pick
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: where we wanted to live. We wouldn't be moving every
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: couple of years, and we could just kind of stay
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: put next to family. And you know, having like young
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: kids is tough, you know, we wanted help with that,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: and we also wanted them to be around their cousins
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: and be around family. So that's when we moved to Richmond, Virginia.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I was in your in your neck of the woods
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. I actually my I call
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: her my final roommate, the last roommate I lived with
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: before I started living on my own. She lives she
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: lives in the Richmond area, and we met in Fredericksburg.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: And when I met with her, I said, is this
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: where they do like Civil war reenactments?
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Like it just feels like that here. Yeah.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a lot of yeah civil war stuff
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: here in like the Virginia area for sure.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: But for you then talk to us about your relationship
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: with fitness after you had your kids.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So after I had Quinn, we knew we were
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: done with two, and we're like, boy, girl, perfect, We're done.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: And then I kind of felt like I had my
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: body back, because for years it felt like it wasn't mine,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: like I was pregnant or I was nursing. And right
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: the day after I stopped nursing, I found out I
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: was pregnant again. So it just I felt like, for
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: that almost I don't know, three years or so, it
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: just didn't feel like my body. So it was exciting
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: to think Okay, this now it's mine again. I can
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: control this. I have complete control. And I was like,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna get back into shape, Like I
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: gained a lot of pregnancy weight, like I was setting
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: records like doctors like you probably want to like cool
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: it with and so I had to try to be
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: a little more careful. But so I was like ready
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: to get it back. So I started trying to run again,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: and you know, coming in from like like heavier than
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: my like pre pregnancy weight, running was really tough. Like
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: the first day I went out and I like, I
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: remember this so clearly. I felt like I was running
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: on another planet with the gravity like twenty times Earth
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: like it just like everything was so hard. Just moving
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: each leg was hard. And I set out that day
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm going to run three minutes, just
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: three full minutes. And I made it to like one
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and a half minutes, and I just stopped, and I'm like, well,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: this is as far as I can run today. I
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: walked home and like kind of I guess a walk
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: of shame there, but I walk home and I'm like, well,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: we'll try again tomorrow.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: That's that's as far as I could run today, and
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I did. I tried again the next day, and I
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: think I made it the three minutes the next day.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: So then it just the goals from there just kept
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: like snowballing. And and you know, at the beginning of this,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I wasn't looking like I never thought I was going
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: to come back and be a professional runner. I didn't
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: think I would be able to compete at this level
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: ever again. But I just kept setting these goals that
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: were just you know, just progress, you know, and every
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: time I'd make a little progress that was just so
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: exciting that I got so addicted to that little progress,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: whether it was running like more minutes next day or
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: more miles in the week, or I don't know, having
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: like consistent weeks adding those together. I would just got
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: so obsessed with progress.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: It probably also paid off in other areas of your life.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: At least that's what I see for me. When I'm
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: working out and being diligent and consistent with it, I
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: feel more motivated to go after the other things that
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: I'm after.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think starting your day with like some form
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: of exercise is so healthy. I think immediately, like I'm
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: not a morning person, so it kind of like just
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: gets me up and gets me going, and then you
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: just feel so productive, you know, and all those endorphins
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: are like going through and then I feel like I
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: can eat a little bit like whatever more whatever I want.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Like if I run later in the day, I feel
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: like always have to like have it buckled down so
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I don't feel it while I'm running. But like so
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: you just feel a little like you can have a
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: little more fun with food and uh. And then I
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, when you're feeling good about
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: yourself too. Just all that like just that positive energy
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: too that you got up and you felt like you
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: crushed it, you know, just you got to win right
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: off the bat.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: On the day is just a powerful thing and it
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: says a lot about you and your personality to have
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: the mindset after you know, those first few runs that
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: weren't going as well as you'd hope that they'd go,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: for you to keep showing up and to keep trying,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: knowing that having this you know, relationship with running in
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: your past, that like eventually you're going to get to
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: a place where you enjoyed what you were doing a
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: little bit more with each day, right And I think.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Like during the time like that break period. I at
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: some points I would try running more than others, and
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I kind of knew that, Like it takes like if
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: you were really committed for like two to four weeks
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: of running, you you feel some relief. You start understanding, Okay,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: this is why people like to do this. But when
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: you're getting into shape with running, it sucks. You feel
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: like all runners are crazy, Like why would people like
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: to do this? It's just it's really tough to get
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: into shape. But once you start getting that feedback of
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: improvement or like losing weight or just feeling, you know,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: feeling better and more confident about yourself, like then it
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: just kind of snowballs and it's so much easier to
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: keep to keep going. But yeah, at the beginning of
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: getting into shape, but when people tell me like no, no, no,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: they're not a runner. I can't do that, And I'm like,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: just make it past. Like if you commit and just
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: make it past like two to four weeks, like you're
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: really going to find like some enjoyment out of this.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel that deep in my bones.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: When I started running, I ran a half mile every
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: day for a summer and that was it. I never
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: tried for more. I never tried for less. I didn't
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: care how long it took me to run the half mile.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I was like, this is what I'm gonna do.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: This is it?
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Like it was a non option, and that half mile
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: encouraged me. That confidence that I gained from running that
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: half mile was the thing that was like, Okay, now
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: you've done this, You've accomplished this goal.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Let's think about the next one. And let's think about
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: the next one and the next one and the next one.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: And now I'm sitting here talking to the American world
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: record holder for the marathon.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: But I think what you just said is so powerful
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: that it's like you finished that, and then your mind
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: starts to dream a little bit, right, and you don't
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: immediately go for like the big wild dream, but you're like,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: if I can do a half mile, could.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: I do a whole mile?
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: You know? And that like little like what if, and
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: that hope and that kind of excitement like I might
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: be over extending myself, but maybe I could do it.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Like that little like hope and dream I think is
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: just so exciting.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: So when does the hobby jogging turn into a am
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I actually dipping.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: My foot in this pool? Again, or like I did.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: A couple of marathons and my times were like coming down,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: and I think.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: It was let's like shed some more light on, like
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: my times were coming down. You ran a three seventeen
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: your debut in twenty seventeen, Then the next year you
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: ran a two forty four, So that's like casual, no
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: time at all between three seventeen and two forty four
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: at Grandma's in twenty eighteen, and then a two thirty
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: four fifty five at the twenty nineteen Berlin Marathon. So
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: to elaborate on my times were coming down a little bit,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a lot of bit.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: They were really progressing. I will say, though, like a
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: marathon that doesn't come up in my bio very often
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: is I did In twenty thirteen, I did the Montana
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the Missoula Montana Marathon. I ran three forty nine forty nine.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I was so proud to finish that day. I got
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: to like maybe eighteen miles or twenty miles and I'm like,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not a marathoner. I am not a marathoner. And
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I walked, you know, walked ran it into the line.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I was so proud to finish and that was another
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: one that was like one and done, never doing that again.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: So then coming back and like giving myself another chance,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: and like it took me a while to heal mentally
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: and physically from that marathon, but coming back and then
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: running and I was like, wow, that was great. I
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: actually ran the whole way. And I was like, well,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: maybe if my training gets a little more intentional, could
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I break three hours. So I got you know, I
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: did a little bit more distance and start doing more
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: workouts and then I ran. Yeah. The two forty seven
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: was the next one, and that's when I pulled a
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: coach in and was like, I think I can make
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: the trials. I really think I can do that, but
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I just I need to get intentional. Like up until
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: that point, I was just running whatever I felt like running.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Like I tell people, I was on the Rooftier float
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: training plan because if I ran ten miles in a day,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I'd get a Rootier float at night. And that was
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: like my whole training plan, which but if you do,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I was getting them every night because I wanted to
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: run ten miles every day so I could get a
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: roop Your float every night. And so when you look
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: at that, that's like seventy miles a week. That's pretty
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: intense training. That's a lot. But I was so obsessed
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: with Rootier floats. That was like the carrot I needed then,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: So yeah, so I I need a carrot. Yeah, figure
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: out what that Rootier float is for you. And yeah,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I don't recommend that training in ten miles. That's probably
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: a little excessive, but coming from like kind of a
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: background and running, but you know, it's like the point
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: of that is just it was fun and it was
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: like what I needed, and it was my motivation and
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I was rewarding myself for like daily little goals, you know,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: and I was like being a cheerleader and I felt
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: so good every night getting my little Rootier float. And
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: but yeah, so I got I got more intentional, and
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: with every marathon, I did, like we started adding more
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: into the training, and you know, like at first it
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: was just running, and then I was adding some more
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: speed work, and then I was adding some more long
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: tempo runs, and then I started adding you know, strength
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: and pilates and my hurdle drills and foot exercises and
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: pet and so it's like it just all snowballed. And
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: every time I'd be like, Okay, what else can we
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: do and what else can we add to keep like
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: just me stimulated and to make sure that I can
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: keep improving and just I don't know, wake up the body,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I guess, but.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, hearing you talk about it, the question starts
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: to beckon, like how did you fit it all in?
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: You're getting so intentional with your training and now like
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: you're probably going from one to two sessions a day,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: and then you're also finding time to see your PT
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: and you're also momming and you're also a realtor. Like
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: that schedule becomes like super hectic. I would have to
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: imagine that despite wanting to be very present in each
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: of those individual things at times, that probably proved challenging.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough, and I think, like the best way
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I can answer, like I wish I had more advice
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: around this because this is I feel like the age
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: old question, like we all need to find like more
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: time in our day and that. But like for me,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: like I just asked for help and like that's hard
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: for me to do, like a type a person, like
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I really like I feel like I can do it all,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: but like I prioritize what's most important and put those
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: into my So first it's family, and then it was
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: real estate and then running, and so I kind of
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: put things into my day in that order to make
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: sure that I'm accomplishing my most important goals first and
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: then like stuff that was like double dipping, or when
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I just didn't have enough space, like I just asked
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: for help from my family, from extended family, from I'd
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: hire like a babysitter up the street to come watch
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: my kids so I could get in a little bit
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: of run if my husband was gone. So off the street,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: just up the street. Hey you up the street, Yeah,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: come on in. How are you like babysitting? All right,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I got a job for you. But yeah, So I
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: think just learning to ask for help and not feeling
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: guilty about asking for help. I think we all want
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: to do it all, and I just learned like I
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: can't do it all, you know, And like I'm never
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: going to be the mom that bakes like the awesome
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: cupcakes and sends them in on the birthday. I'm going
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: in and buying store bought, you know. But that's something
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: that's like I'm okay, I'm not going to be that
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: like baking mom. You know that's okay. So I think
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: just like I don't know, And I think also I've said,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: like to be good at like a couple of things,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I suck at a lot of other things, you know,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: So there's definitely like the things that we're talking about,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I feel like I found how to manage, but there's
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of things in my life that I'm not
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: good at and like I need even more help at.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know. So it's just being okay to suck
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: at some things too.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, you were talking about that progress with the
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: marathons and then being more intentional with your training. I
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: don't want to like diss the root beer float mentality,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: but I would also have to think that you had
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: to get a little bit more intentional about what you
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: were putting into your body as well.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And you know, it took me a little bit
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: to figure that part out, And it took me like
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of like failures to figure out that I
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: needed like help with that. Like I remember at first,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I would get a little lightheaded while running, and I'd
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: come back and do some research and it was probably
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: because I wasn't need enough protein. And then sometimes I
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: would just run out of energy and feel so flat,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: and I'd do more research and it was like low,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: like carbs I didn't have, wasn't getting enough before I ran.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: And that's when like I reached out. I was like,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I need help with this, and so I did some
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: research and that's when I reached out to Insight Tracker,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: who I've done. They do like quarterly analysis for me,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: like a blood analysis and track all my biomarkers. So
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: that actually is how nutrition wise I've been able to
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: balance it because they've been able to point out like
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: my iron was really low, my vitamin D was really low,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: my vitamin B and so, and they were able to
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: point me in you know, just give me helps with
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: nutrition suggestions and how to get that in meal form.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: So that was that really really helped. But that was
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: something to learn because training for a marathon takes a
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: lot out of you and it depletes you a lot.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: So like I had never trained at that level, so
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: that was important for me to get help again in
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: other places to figure out how to how to maximize that.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and on the note of asking for help, I
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: mean especially when it comes to your nutrition. So often
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: we're just thinking about the training plan and the doing
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: and the doing and the doing. But if you don't
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: take in that nutrition. Also mentioned that buzzword recovery and
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: do account, then all that training could be for nothing
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: if you're not giving your body what it needs in
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: all that other time in your day when you're not
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: actually on the run. I mean full disclosure. Inside Tracker
• 40:13
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• 40:16
  Speaker 2: sentiments and echo them completely when it comes to just
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: acting yourself, the little questions like you don't need to
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: be tired to that extent when you finish a run,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: and like maybe asking yourself like why is that happening?
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: I too struggled with low Farredin levels and so getting
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: those like customized personalized recommendations so that it wasn't just
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: like okay, you have low faridin. It was like, okay,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: you have low Faridin and this is exactly what you
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: can do so that you can do something about that
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: and then you will have a payoff in how you
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: feel like. It was a very like this is A,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: this is B, this is C. Now you can move
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: forward with your life right.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Right, And it just made it so easy seeing it.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: And I've had problems with iron in my past. So
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: every year when I go to my regular checkup, I
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: have them check all my level and for the last
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: like before inside Tracker, they were saying like, yep, you're
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: good to go, and then when I get to inside Tracker,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: they look on it. They compare me to endurance athletes
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: because you can sort like like what your goals are?
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: You do want to just overall wellness. Are you having
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: trouble sleeping? Are you endurance athlete? Are you like weight
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: lost your goals? So depending on what those goals are,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: they like set those those levels for your biomarkers. So
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: when I came back, like I thought, my iron was fine,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: and they're like, you, for an endurance athlete, you need
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of work on this, So you need to
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: start adding to more beans and red meats and you know,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: just starting making sure that you're focusing on all that.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: But that really changed how I looked at how I
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: was fueling, which really now like my energy levels are
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: so much higher, like I'm able to perform, and when
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: stuff like that comes up, like if I'm feeling lightheaded
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: or if I'm feeling really hungry, I think I'm not
• 41:52
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  Speaker 2: talking here through your breakout year, because you hit an
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  Speaker 2: unexpected hurdle after doing so much of this good work
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  Speaker 2: in that you were dealing at one point with a
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: little bit of an injury.
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  Speaker 3: Talk to us about that injury and what it meant
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: for your running.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I came off like in twenty twenty. It
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: was like a really magical year for me and in
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: a year that really the world shut down and we
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: were all going through a lot with COVID. I just
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  Speaker 1: that was what I clung to during that chaos, and
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, you know, everything else is a
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  Speaker 1: little chaotic, but I still can run, you know, running
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: it's not canceled. So I really really clung to that
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: for just physical and mental sanity, I guess. And it
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: went really well for me, and you know, I broke
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: the American record in the ten miles that year and
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I had a really great marathon. So I was expecting
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: all these big things in twenty twenty one and just
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: to keep building on that. And then I got injured
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: and it took me a few months to identify I
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: was treating the pain and not figuring out the cause.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: So it took me a little bit to figure out
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: what the route was. And once I did, you know,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: it was a big strength imbalance which was leading my
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: hips to get a little out of line, which was
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: putting stress on my hamstring and then straining my hamstring.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: So I've now like getting even more intentional with my
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: strength and recovery exercises in all my prehab. And it definitely,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: I mean that really sucked because it was a month
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: before the Olympic track trials and I thought that I had,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: you know, like I had, I thought I had a
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: shot at possibly making that Olympic team. So having to
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: pull out of the Olympic trials that was hard. That like,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: really that really sucked. But I gave myself kind of
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: similar to we talked about before, is like I gave
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: myself time to be sad, and then I was like, well,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I can either be sad about this or I can
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: start working towards new goals. Okay, what are these new goals.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Let's figure out. Let's keep moving forward. So I quickly
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: just shifted that focus, like even though it's still hurt
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: and it's stung, and I definitely had FOMO watching it
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: the trials and the Olympics, but I just shifted the
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: focus and I'm like, Okay, well that's not that's not
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: a dream anymore. Let's figure out what is. So I
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: just kind of shifted to thinking about Fall marathon at
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: that time.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that perspective shift is so difficult for you,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: having to be a mom to your kids and to
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: keep going to work and you know, keep doing what
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: you were doing despite the fact that inside you were.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Really going through it. I mean I would be too.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: How what was the thing that helped you shift your perspective?
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Well, And I think it's just that balance of the
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: different priorities in my life. Like, so I wasn't running
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: as much, and I wasn't competing, so I wasn't traveling,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: but I was able to like wake up and make
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: breakfast and just have a relaxing morning with the kids,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: you know, like on Sundays, usually I'd be out running
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: for two or three hours, but now we are going
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: strawberry picking, you know. So I filled that void with
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: just things that I also really love. So it made
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: it easier, right, It didn't fix the problem, but I
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: just put all my energy into two other things. And
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: at the time then with real estate, I was studying,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I got my broker's license and I opened up a
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: property management company and that was really time consuming. I
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: would have never had that time if I was running
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: and competing and traveling at that level. So I just
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: figure out, like you know, just to move on and
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: just you know, just throw myself in into other areas
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: of my life.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: How do you give back to you, like outside of
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: spending the time with your family.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: What are you doing to take care of Kira.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: You know, that's such a thoughtful question, and I still
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: try to answer that with running, like that's that's my
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: me time, Like that's what I carve out in my
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: day to take care of myself. And for the most part,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: like I run by myself and I listen to whatever
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: music or whatever podcasts and I'm just kind of alone
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: with my thoughts and i just have a little bit
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: of space in my day. So I still look at
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: running as just I don't know, I'm just grateful for
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: that space in my life. And I think also that's
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: why I'm able to put so much into it. It
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: is because it's such a source, like we talked about
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: too of joy for me. So yeah, that's that's the
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: thing that I do for myself.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: So when does the hamstring start to feel better with
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: all of this prehab and rehab in all the things.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Probably in June July, I like build up enough strength
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: to start being able to build on that workload again.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: So I think training resumes like back to almost normal,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: and like July August time frame, I think.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: How did you feel about the idea of losing your
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: fitness during that time.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: You know, like it's definitely on my mind, and I
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: cross trained. I did like you know, the indoor the
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: swimming and like the running the pool running, and man,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: it's just I don't like doing that stuff, you know.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: So that kind of that kind of stunk. But it
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: also was just like every day I did that was
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: just such a reminder to like take care of myself,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Like I don't ever want to be here again. Like
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: getting in a cold pool is the worst. Sorry to
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: only swimmers out there. I don't know how you do it,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: it's so cold. But so it just was like a
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: reminder like I don't ever want to be on the
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: bench again. Like I need to make sure I'm doing
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: everything in my power to stay healthy so I don't
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: have to get back here.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a DM from someone maybe yesterday the
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: day before, and they were asking me what they should
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: do because they got COVID and they're supposed to on
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: a half marathon in three weeks. Like I'm so worried
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: about losing my fitness, and I said times. She asked
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: me what should I do, and I said nothing. You
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: need to give your body rest and you need to
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: chill because the last thing you need to go doing
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: is stressing your immune system even more than it already
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: is trying to navigate COVID, so that by the time
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: COVID's done, you're exhausted because you've completely beat yourself down.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: And she was like, I really needed to hear that.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: I understand the stress that not being able to get
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: what we were talking about before and not being able
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: to do the thing that you want to do it
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: puts on you emotionally and physically.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was such great advice. And I'm glad
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: that that's what you told her, because no, but like
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: in coming back, like you know, I lost some fitness,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: but I also trusted that, like it's going to take
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: a little bit to like dust off the cobwebs, but
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: it's still there. You know, I've been working my tail
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: off for years. It's not going to go away in
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, right or a couple months or
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: whatever it was. So, you know, I just trusted, like
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: in my fitness, and I knew it was going to
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: take a little bit to like stop being like when
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I get back, it just feel awkward, like I just
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: feel like not everything's like my joints aren't tight enough.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: I just feel all noutile. I don't know how to say,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: but I just trust that, like it's going to get
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: back and I need to be patient. Is like my
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: biggest advice I give is just patience, And it's like
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: the least sexy advice in the world because we all
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: want it now. But I was patient, and when I
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: came back, I didn't try to push my timeline. We
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: slowly built up and we let things come and you know,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: after you know, building up again, we got we I mean,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: look where I ended up after like a pretty like
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: crappy twenty twenty one, Like two twenty twenty two started.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: Off all right that first race back.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Chicago Marathon, because it was really
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: like us shaking the cobwebs off moment for you. But
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: from the outside looking in, for individuals who maybe didn't
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: know your struggle, didn't know that you had really suffered
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: through the previous months leading up to this build up,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: you know, they see what happened there and they were like, oh,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: like she really wanted that record, talk me through that
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: for you.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like we knew that build up was shorter. I
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: knew for my workouts, I wasn't in my best shape ever,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: but I knew standing on the start start line it
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: was gonna be the best I could do that day.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: So I was going to fight every mile and just
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: do the best with what I had. And that's what
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: I did, and you know, I didn't PR. I finished
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: fourth overall, which which was awesome. You know, I had
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: bigger goals initially, but I think just figuring out where
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: you are and doing the best with that, I mean,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: that's really all I could do. But Chicago was really
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: great for me because I recovered pretty quickly since I
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: was so early on in that marathon training, I wasn't
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: physically or mentally fatigue from all the training. So I
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: feel like that really like springboarded me into like a
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: really great Yeah, like training training went awesome. After that,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: I did the Richmond eight k and ran a course record,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: and then I went up to Manchester and did that
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: road race and that one went really well and my
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: speed was coming back. I won my first national championship
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: in the half marathon, which like at thirty seven years old,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: like I didn't think I'd ever win a national title,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: and at thirty seven winning it, it was so emotional
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: for me because I just dreamed of being a national
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: champion and anything since I was like really young, and
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: to finally get thirty seven, it's just like I'm just
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: so happy I didn't give up, you know, and to
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: have like such a beautiful moment. And that's when we
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: started thinking, like, you know, the marathon fitness is still there,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: so maybe if like we put in one more like
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: month or so of training, like what do you think
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: we can do in a marathon? So that's when that
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: whole like I you know, that's when the Houston Marathon
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: popped up there, like that's the perfect time. We can
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: get one more like solid month in and then let's
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: see what happens.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: We'll just see what happens.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Let's see what happens.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: How is this build up for you? When it comes
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: to being.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: A mom, it's you know, it's a lot of like
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: mornings and a lot of adjusting, a lot of asking
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: for how and it's a lot of time away from
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: like the kids, especially like long runs on Saturday or
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Sundays usually kind of like we kind of all relax
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: and spend time as a family. So it definitely everyone
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: in my family has It's like we all make sacrifices.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: But I give my husband a lot of credit too,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: because some days he'll just put everyone in the car
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: and come try to see if they can find me
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: while I'm out running and blast Miley Cyrus party in
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: the USA. Why they drive by and they all have lollipops.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like, why do you got? How are you getting
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: all that candy?
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: But or like they've come to the track and like
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: root me on. So I'm like, you know, like my
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: family's been like a really big part of this journey,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: and it's been even more fun that we've all been
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: on the journey together.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And like to think about that in like ten
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: twenty years from now when you all are reflecting on
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: this time period that your kids are going to be like,
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: my mom is such a badass and she made so
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: many beautiful, wonderful sacrifices for our family. It was And
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: I think that there are probably a couple of different
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: schools of thought here, but from my POV, it's like, wow,
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: Like what an awesome opportunity to show your children the
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: power and beauty of hard work and dedication and going
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: after what it is. It's truly just a lifelong goal
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: for you I think that that's what I hope my
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: kids take from this.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Like I don't if they get into running, great, I
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: kind of assume they'll find other interests and passions. But
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: I hope they just see me set a crazy dream
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: and then work really hard for it, you know, and
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: to find something they love and carve out that time
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: in their day to pursue it. And it's just the
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: fact that I have, Like I love running so much
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: down to my core. It's just like part of who
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: I am. I love to run, And like my biggest
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: wish for my kids is they find their own running
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: or whatever that is that fulfills them and makes them
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: happy and gives them a reason to get excited, to
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: wake up early or just it just yeah, I hope
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: that they find that, but hopefully just kind of watching me.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: You know, if they do find that, they'll know what
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: to do with it.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: What did it mean for you or what did it
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: feel like to see them on the course sidelines as
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: you were setting history.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: That meant the world to me. And before races, like
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: I usually travel out on my own and we kind
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: of isolate in those days leading into the race, and
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: like we do that because I need to relax. I
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: need to get into the right mindset. And just like
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: being being a parent is just like you know, there's
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: just a mental burden, you know, and I don't I
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: shouldn't use burden, but it's just mentally it's taxing, right,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Like you're always thinking about have they ate, are they dressed?
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: You know, do they need to go to the bathroom,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: what's next? Are they doing something they shouldn't? Should we
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: be reading more? You know, it's like you're just constantly
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: your mind's just always on. So for those couple of
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: days leading into the race, like I was isolated and
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: I was relaxed, and I was focusing on just you know,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: just trying to stay chill and not like freak out,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: I guess. So seeing them after the race, like I
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: hadn't seen them in a couple of days too, you know,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: so it was so special to see them. And like
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: whenever I'm away for them, like there's a huge amount
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: of guilt, but it always like fuels me like if
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: I'm taking this time away from my family, I'm going
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: to show up. I'm going to work my butt off,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to make the most of every single
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: opportunity Because like time away from my family is a
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: big sacrifice for me, and I don't really like doing it.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: So just kind of even like during the race, thinking
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: about them, just thinking like we've all worked hard, we've
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: all sacrificed, Like I'm the one out here running right now,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: but this is like a family goal and something that
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: we've all been working towards, so like I don't want
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: to let them down, you know. So just finishing and
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: seeing them was just so great to see them, and
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: then it just all like just the gravity and the
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: magnitude of everything. Because for me going into that race,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: like my goal was to run five eighteen. It wasn't
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: to set the American record. Like I couldn't wrap my
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: head around a goal of that size. Like there's just
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: no way I could imagine that I could be the
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: American woman to run the fastest ever. That just makes
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: zero sense to me. So I was like, Okay, let's
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: not think about it that way. Just think about you
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: can run five eighteen. So like after the race, I
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: was like, good, I met my goal five eighteen, and
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: then the magnitude of what I just did was coming back.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: At the same time, It's like seeing my kids. It
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: was just a really emotional uh, really emotional the signs.
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: Can we talk about the signs?
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, you just made You just made the face that
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: I made at the beginning when you told me that
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: you liked my voice.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: You just made like the big like watery lice.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: The signs are the best thing in the world. So
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: my mom had brought just like paper and markers is
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: a way to just like a fun activity and just said,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: you guys can make whatever you want. And so they
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: both made their own signs. Like she didn't tell them
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: what to write at all. They both just got creative.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: And then like right before like America a long time.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: So they're standing there with their signs, and so she
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: brought the markers so they could like draw more and
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: just have something to do. And then they started like
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: fighting with each other and drawing on each other signs.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: So I was like, no, no, no, like don't do that.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: So they had to like flip mom over and make
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: new signs. But I think like my son's sign it
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: said you're number one in my heart, and that is
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: just so powerful that like he didn't care if I
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: won or lost, like and that is so freeing, you know,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: like this doesn't like the running doesn't matter to my
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: family and to like he just I'm number one to him.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I didn't even have to finish the race and I'd
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: still be number one to him. And I think just
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: like that support and like unconditional love just really like
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: allows me to take a risk and you know, shoot
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: for the stars and everything.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially when they're young, Like the most important
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: thing is that they want you to be happy. So
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: to see you happy, and your perspective like aids in that,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: right because knowing that I get to do this, this
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: is the thing that I'm going to show up to
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: do today, and it could go really well or it
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: could not go well, but at the end, I'm still
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: me and that's what's important. That perspective is what keeps
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: you happy and what keeps your runs like and this
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: career for you so joyous.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it keeps me grounded, right because when things
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: don't go well, like, I still love my family, you know,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: and as long as my family's like happy and healthy,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: like that's like the top priority. So I just I
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: think it just I don't know, it's just again that
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: whole big balance thing that just kind of just keeps
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: everything together.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: A whole big balance thing. Okay, Kira, question for you now.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Right now, someone comes to your Instagram page and they
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: see pro Runner for Nike and Flint Sports Marathon American
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Record two nineteen twelve.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: A pro woman's temile world record. I love the words
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: world record.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: It's just like awesome.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: When you look in the mirror, What is it that
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: you see looking back at you.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like I see me, like all of me,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: you know, I like separate me from running a lot
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: of time. So even on my run today, I was thinking,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: like I started thinking about that race and it just
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: makes me laugh a little bit because it feels I
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: don't know, like I know it's part of me, but
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: it's not. I can't even describe it. But it's just
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: like I don't know it just I still it hasn't
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: sunk in. I guess that's what I'm trying to say.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: I still can't wrap my head around it. Like I've
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: put in the work and I knew I was fit
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: to run that time, but just like just everything other
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: than that, I just I don't know. It doesn't it
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: hasn't sunk in. But yeah, I don't know. I just
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: see Kira like the just kind of goofy, silly, like
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: fun loving Kira, I guess.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: And also to provide some contexts.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't mean to like skip past some of the
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  Speaker 2: highlights of this effort for you, but it did truly
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  Speaker 2: feel like an effort for you. Like it wasn't just
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  Speaker 2: one of those days where everything clicked and you were
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  Speaker 2: in flow state and it was like a magical two
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  Speaker 2: hours and nineteen minutes like that.
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  Speaker 3: It was a battle.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was really hoping it was going to be
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  Speaker 1: that magical flow state, but it wasn't. But it made
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  Speaker 1: me even more proud when I was done, because there's
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  Speaker 1: so many times during the race where I thought maybe
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  Speaker 1: this wouldn't happen, or maybe I can't go any further.
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  Speaker 1: There was just doubts, right, and I like insecurities popped up,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like, I don't know if I can do this.
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  Speaker 1: So to be able to figure out how to work
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  Speaker 1: through all that and just I mean everything hurt my
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  Speaker 1: like my body hurt like and so to be able
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  Speaker 1: to push through that like made it even more special
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  Speaker 1: because it wasn't easy. And I think that also represents
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  Speaker 1: like my whole path with running, like it was never
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  Speaker 1: really easy. You know, It's been a whole lot of
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  Speaker 1: fun and I've enjoyed just the hell out of the ride.
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  Speaker 1: But it's been you know, it's taken me thirty seven
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  Speaker 1: years to have a moment like that, which which I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't do it any differently because I just, you know,
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  Speaker 1: appreciate my journey and how hard I've worked, and it's yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I've been one heck of.
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  Speaker 2: A ride, one hell of a ride. So when you
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  Speaker 2: think about what's next, I mean, what comes next after
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  Speaker 2: that kind of accomplishment.
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  Speaker 1: I think for me to take the pressure off of
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  Speaker 1: that singular day, I've been thinking about what's next, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So I knew for these goals to compete on a
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  Speaker 1: world stage or to compete like and do great against
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  Speaker 1: international women like this was a stepping stone to get there.
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  Speaker 1: So for me, like I'd like to represent the US
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  Speaker 1: this summer in the World Championships. They're in US for
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  Speaker 1: the first time ever. So I'll be switching over and
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  Speaker 1: just trying to find some speed and training for the
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  Speaker 1: ten k on the track, and then next fall I'll
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  Speaker 1: find another marathon and I'm going to try to Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see, I haven't picked that marathon yet. But I
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  Speaker 1: have a feeling if I don't break that record again,
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  Speaker 1: some other women are going to break it before me.
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  Speaker 1: So I gotta I gotta lower that if I want
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  Speaker 1: to hold on to it any longer.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, other women are going to break it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it took so long for this to happen
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  Speaker 2: the first time.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not ready.
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  Speaker 2: You serve to hold on to it for longer than
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  Speaker 2: just a short time.
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  Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Even when it's broken, I'll be
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  Speaker 1: the former American record holder. And that's pretty awesome too.
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  Speaker 1: I'm okay with that, so that's fine.
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  Speaker 3: Perspective is just mind blowing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and my Instagram bio is not going to change
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  Speaker 1: instead of American record I'll just put former American record holders.
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  Speaker 1: That'll be fine. So whenever that day happens, I'll be
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  Speaker 1: rooting form.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love it.
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  Speaker 2: I love just like your entire energy, and I'm so
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  Speaker 2: happy for you. It's you know, it's it's always no
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  Speaker 2: matter who does it. Like, feats like this are truly
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  Speaker 2: just superhuman. But to talk to someone who just has
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  Speaker 2: such like a beautiful perspective about her sport and her
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  Speaker 2: journey and your passion just literally radiates through the microphone.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm just I'm I'm truly amp for you, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm so excited that we had this opportunity to kind
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  Speaker 2: of rap about all of this awesomeness.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is really fun. Thanks for having me on
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  Speaker 1: and just giving me like a space to share my story.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, are we best friends now? I think just
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: became best friends.
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  Speaker 3: We just speaking best friends.
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  Speaker 2: You're not done yet, you need to you need to
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: give us one more little nugget of wisdom. Okay, wait, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you a question.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's the only thing that's pretty broad. Okay, wisdom,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: all right, here we go. Let's take a wisdom. Here
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: we go.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, final question, Kira. Right now you have an opportunity. Wow,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: you had two pretty distinct hurdle moments, I would say,
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  Speaker 2: but let's bring it back.
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  Speaker 3: I want to bring it back to the more recent one.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, you have an opportunity to offer the Kira
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  Speaker 2: who has to uh take a back seat during the
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: US Olympic trials and put off her dream and and
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: kind of question like, what happens now?
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: What happens next?
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  Speaker 2: Do you have an opportunity to offer that woman a
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: piece of advice. Looking back on that, now, what do
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: you tell her.
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  Speaker 1: Like, don't give up, Like, don't let this rock you.
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  Speaker 1: This is just like a minor blip. This is going
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: to be such a small thing when you look at
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: like just the whole big picture, right, so just like
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: keep your head up, it's gonna be okay, Like, hang
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: in there, you still got this. But I think with
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: any like failure or injury, you just it's so scary
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: because you're wondering if that's you, Like is this over?
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: Is this dream over?
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 1: Do I need to mourn these goals again? Like a
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: coming up short? So I think just believing that like
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: this too will pass, Like if I'm just patient, it's
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: like the dreams aren't over, they're just deferred. So hang
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: in there, you got this. Do you know your Oreo challenges?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: Fill your life with other fun things right now? Distract
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  Speaker 1: and uh, you're gonna get back and be better than ever.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: What Oreo challenge do I need to be doing once
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: I get off this podcast?
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: So?
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: What is your favorite Oreo flavor? Have you ever thought
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: to think they have like dozens and dozens of Oreo flavors.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: So what my family did one time is we bought
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  Speaker 1: like all the flavors and did like a big Oreo
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  Speaker 1: Madness challenge to figure out what in fact is the
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  Speaker 1: best Oreo flavor. So I have the answer. I have
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  Speaker 1: the Demato answer at least, but I encourage everyone to
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: buy all the oreos and figure out what is their
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  Speaker 1: favorite flavor.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: Can you adopt me? Yeah?
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: We actually we are accepting applications into our family. It's
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: very inclusive pretty much. If you're a kind person, you're in.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll put I'll send you. I'll send you
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: an application.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: Uh wait, so what's your what's the dematto Oreo flavor?
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: So it came down to mint versus golden, which is crazy.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: I really thought double stuffed was going to be up there.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Meant versus gold Golden is delicious. I like, I thought
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: they weren't even gonna make it out of the first round.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: It was really good, but we did rounds. We put
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: it in. It's like an NCAA Matt Mars Madness bracket.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: We were talking, we took this really really. I put
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: them all up. You'll have to go on my Instagram
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: and my stories, and I think you're gonna have the
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: school back because now we've done all their things and we.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: Know it now that you're telling me about this, I
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: definitely remember the brackets. But this is did they sell
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: all the varieties at your local grocery store?
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: They did? Yeah, they had, well they had most of them,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: so I picked. I think at the time we only
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: did eight, which I got a lot of feedback later
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: that we didn't include like lemon and some other things.
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  Speaker 1: So I think we're gonna have to do like a
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: whole new racket challenge and we'll put even more in there.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Mitt ended up taking the w home. So
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: mint in the Dematto household is the best OREO.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, the next time you were in New York,
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  Speaker 2: I'm about to take you to some places to have
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: your mind blown.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: Cookie Challenge twenty twenty two on DAK I promise you.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, hashtag best friends take New York.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go.
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  Speaker 2: Kira, so grateful for you. How do the hurdlers follow
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: along with you? How do they keep up with you?
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: Give us all your details?
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: So I'm on Instagram is probably where I'm most active
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: at Kira Dematto and Kira's k E I R I
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: think you'll find me either way, but I break that
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: spelling rule, so I think it's a little confusing the
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: eye before you accept after see. Yeah, So I'm on
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Instagram a month Strava. I love Strava, and it's so
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: like I started getting in to Distrava before I started
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: running competitively, so like my whole journey is up there
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  Speaker 1: so you can see the progress. And I love Strava
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  Speaker 1: for me because I was getting like kudos and I
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: was connected to a running community even though I was
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: running totally alone. So all of a sudden, I felt
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: like I felt kind of like a lone wolf, and
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: now I just have this whole running community of people
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: give me kudos or holding me accountable. So I really
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: love Strava as just like a social media But I'm
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: on Twitter, Cure Tomato. I run around a lot, so
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: you've probably seen me running through your neighborhoods. It just
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: just you can just wave to me too or honk.
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  Speaker 1: I'm cool with that. So uh yeah, I think that's it.
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  Speaker 1: I think those are all the ways Strava's people.
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  Speaker 2: You can feel free to email Hello at hurdle dot
• 1:10:51
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  Speaker 2: I am over at Hurdle podcast and at Emily Abadi
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  Speaker 2: another heard, well conquered.
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  Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.