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  Get laced up. Let's go!
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  It's time for Banter with the Boys!
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  Yo yo, welcome back to Banter with the Boys Gridiron Updates Week 4.
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  That means we're recapping our Week 3 games and previewing some Week 4 games.
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  But before we do all that, obviously we gotta bring in our co-host over here, Rob.
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  What's up, Snelsey? How's it going?
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  Man, have you enjoyed that weather this week or not?
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  It was money. I ended up hitting up the Gophers game.
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  A little tailgate for five hours. Can't complain.
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  Yeah, but you did a lot for not much.
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  And then the whole team on the professional side sitting at 3-0, so vibes are good.
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  Oh, we're gonna get to that. Don't you worry. Don't you worry.
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  Life's good.
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  Life is good. Life is good. Right next to him making his first appearance on the show, we have Mike.
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  Correct, yes. Good job you remembered.
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  Mark, go on the screen.
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  Alright. Mike, why don't you just give us a little rundown of your football history, how long you've been watching it, all that jazz.
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  Well, I became a Colts fan early on when I was a teenager, so I'm pretty old now, so a lot of years.
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  20 plus years as a Colts fan. So I've seen the Super Bowl with Peyton and that was pretty exciting.
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  I can explain that to you. He can help explain that to you.
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  Oh, come on. This is just introductions.
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  Yeah, met Rob at Fantasy Football and we've been doing that for 15, 20 years now and so just a long time Colts fan.
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  So you're Rob's friend or acquaintance?
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  Let's call it acquaintance. Mark it down. No, we're friends.
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  Yeah, I wouldn't say that out loud. And then right next to me, an OG of Banner with the boys, please welcome back Tyler.
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  Tyler, what is poppin' dude? Glad to be back man, making it work, having another kiddo.
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  It's a lot, but I'm glad to be here man. Glad to wear the Packer colors on the pot again.
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  Well, I was just about to say we're hoping we see you more as the season goes on.
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  Like more falling down the standings?
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  Ooh, I like that. I'm just not a fan of the green because you went military green today.
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  Yeah, I guess so.
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  Alright, nevermind. Move on, move on, move on. And also don't forget Kev.
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  Kev makes this whole thing happen behind the camera. You do not see him.
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  But let's start right off the bat with our five game recap.
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  And we are absolutely going to start with the Vikings.
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  The Vikings game this week, which I was lucky enough to be at.
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  Only a couple rows off the field, a handful of rows off the field. It was awesome.
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  I bet the vibe had been awesome.
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  Oh my gosh, it was rockin'. All of us different fans were buying each other drinks.
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  Don't even know who they are. That's just the Minnesota way.
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  We were just partying all game. It was louder than heck.
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  Three straight false starts by the Texans. I just, still excited. Rob, aren't you?
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  Yeah, it was solid. You know, we had that interception, that first drive.
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  Put some points on the board.
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  First offensive play for the Texans, wasn't it? Or did they run it first? I can't remember.
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  They ran it first, then it was a second. Well, actually it was a completion to Collins, but there was a flag.
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  And then the next play.
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  The next play, so. Yeah, it feels good to be 3-0 on top of the division.
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  Not really expecting us to have that hot of a start with our schedule, just looking at it preseason-wise.
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  I thought we'd be 1-2.
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  Yeah, but now looking forward, we have a really nice middle section of our schedule.
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  So, vibes are good right now.
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  Absolutely, absolutely. I mean, we saw a great game, not only from Sam Darnold in the offense,
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  but that defense just absolutely ate up the Texans. I mean, there's nothing they could do.
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  Once again, another example of the Texans missing that rushing game.
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  Oh yeah, that Joe Mixon we mentioned last week, man. Oh yeah, the Vikings defense with five sacks, two interceptions.
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  And so that's a really nice start. They're up 14-0 at half.
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  So it's always, you know, when you're starting off a game like that and then you're playing from, you know, ahead,
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  then you go out and establish the running game with a little over four yards of carry.
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  So keeping the Texans to four for 14 on third downs, 11 total penalties.
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  So that's overall a solid game out of the Vikings.
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  Yeah, absolutely. Did either of you fellas happen to catch any of the best team in the league, the Vikings and Texans game?
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  I was able to. I had the quad box on. So that was one of the one of the games on there.
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  Ticket, Sunday ticket. Oh, Sunday ticket. Yeah.
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  So what's impressed me most about this Viking team so far is just their defense.
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  Flores has definitely made an impact as I expected him to.
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  But, you know, they spent some money in the offseason on the defensive side of the ball.
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  That's turning out to be huge. And then with Sam Darnold, I have the KOC system, right?
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  It's the McVeigh system, however you want to say it. They're all everybody's a staple of it at this point.
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  I think it's Shanahan. Originally it was Shanahan.
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  Who was the original of all the originals? It was Mike Shanahan.
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  It was Kyle's pops. And they were all in the so like like Sean, little Shanahan and Lafleur were all in the same actually Redskins team back when it was the Redskins.
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  And Zach Taylor, I think. Yeah, and Zach Taylor. Yeah.
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  And Mike as NFL coaches right now. And now McVeigh has a tree. Right. That's just crazy.
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  But it's you don't need a star quarterback to run that system.
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  You need somebody that's not going to turn the ball over and hit the receiver when they're open because they are open.
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  That system just creates openings. It's insane how often you just have somebody that has three yards of separation consistently in that system.
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  Just wild. So you need somebody that's just going to not turn the ball over and hit the open receiver.
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  And having Aaron Jones as a compliment now is huge. Oh, yes. Right. It's really different from last year's team.
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  Oh, yeah. They couldn't do anything in the rushing game with Madison at all.
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  I mean, he's again not doing much this year. So, yeah, I had to move on from Aaron Jones with 102 yards.
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  Can't complain there. He even had a receiving touchdown. Sam Darnold threw for four touchdowns to four different four different receivers.
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  Oh, that's that's what I'm most excited about. Four different receivers all around.
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  One of them being Aaron Jones, but I just love to see that he's spreading it out.
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  He's not he was targeting J.J. early, but then everybody else started getting involved. Jalen Naylor, Johnny Munt got a touchdown. Right.
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  You know what I mean? That's that system. Yeah.
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  The system is like you can't just focus on one person for the system to thrive.
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  Everybody has to eat, even if it's those little dink and dunk four yard yard completions to that no name.
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  I'm not saying Johnny Munt's a no name because he's turned into well with Hockinson going down. Best third tight end in the league.
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  Right. Right. He's a no name outside of our listeners.
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  Yeah. But it's you know, that system just allows everybody to eat.
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  You're seeing it. We'll get to it later. But you're seeing that with the LeFleur the LeFleur offense right now, too.
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  But yeah, it's the Vikings have definitely impressed.
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  And when you have a complimentary defense to that dink and dunk game, it doesn't matter.
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  You don't have to go for the home run every time. And that's that's what we're seeing.
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  We don't have to talk about the Vikings too long because Rob and I are here all season to talk about the Vikings, of course.
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  But real quick, before we move on to the Packers, the Packers, sorry.
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  It's happening. Oh, it keeps happening. I don't know what's going on.
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  Is this a fluke for the Texans? I mean, you're walking into a tough environment.
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  It was very loud. There's a second loudest game at US Bank Stadium behind like a Viking Packer game.
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  Is this just a fluke for the Texans or is there is there more is there more to fix?
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  The Texans. Yeah, the Colts already played the Texans.
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  And I think the biggest difference I saw between the two games was Flores brought 15 blitzes against CJ Stroud and he got home with those.
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  He timed them perfectly. It seemed like they all worked.
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  He was either rushed or sacked on those blitzes. And it really got to him.
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  Stroud had the second worst performance of his career and early career.
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  But, you know, he didn't see it coming. Correct.
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  It hadn't he hadn't been flustered like that in his his year plus so far.
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  And so that was the big thing that I saw was Flores really got to him.
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  And Slowick, the Houston offensive coordinator, just did not do him any favors, getting him short second or third downs.
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  He just kept running the ball, kept getting two yards on first down and putting him in a bad position.
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  So I think the offensive coordinator there will adjust and we'll see a better CJ Stroud. But it's definitely a way to get to him.
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  They got to get some going with their rushing game. You can't just put it all on CJ.
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  And when KMakers is your number one back. Back to Joe Mixon. He'll not be in there.
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  Is there a different team? It's huge. And I mean, hi, right now he's probable.
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  I don't think that's an actual designation anymore. But it sounds like he's.
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  Yeah, it sounds like he's probable for this week with the Texans. Oh, I don't I don't know.
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  I mean, their offense, they've played the Colts, the Bears and now the Vikings. Right.
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  The Colts and the Bears, I think we can all you might not agree.
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  I hope you would. But our bottom tier NFL teams at this point.
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  Top tier defenses. I would I wouldn't say so.
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  You don't think Chicago's in the top tier? They're not.
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  I think top 15 I wouldn't consider top tier. That's top tier.
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  Middling defenses. I'd say they're middle of the pack. Yeah.
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  I expect it to be better this year. The Colts.
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  I mean, the Colts even look just porous this year.
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  Oh, Buckner out now. That kills them.
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  Most rush yards given up in the first two games.
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  So when you got not a good defense right now.
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  So Jacksonville, if you're listening, you got to bring the pressure next week.
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  And hey, you might beat the Texans. That's probably not.
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  But Jacksonville. Probably not.
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  They got to get Lawrence back on track.
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  They made the Bills look like the best team the NFL's ever seen.
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  No doubt. No doubt. Speaking of getting on track, Malik Willis looking nice.
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  He's looking nice. Looking better than last week.
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  Now that he knew he was going to be starting this week.
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  I wouldn't even say it was necessarily looking better than last week.
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  He was incorporated into the actual passing game this week.
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  But it was that's what I was getting with with Le Fleur.
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  It's like his like the way he sculpts the offense around what he's given is
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  something the Packers have never really seen.
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  McCarthy sure as crap didn't do that. So it's just crazy watching him.
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  Because like with Malik's this last game, they were they were all basically
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  like intermediate to longer routes is where Willis excels.
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  He's not that dink and dunk. He's not going to hit that five yard.
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  He's a grass and thrower. Yeah. Yeah.
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  You know, he is his deepest or his best trade is his deep ball.
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  Now, we didn't launch any down the field, but that's a lot to ask for of him.
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  But then he's got his legs.
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  But then they started off with a bubble screen to start the game.
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  Well, yeah, but it was in him.
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  That's also yeah, you want to hit those quick routes.
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  Well, the first two passes of the game are actually passes.
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  Yeah. And then he had that, you know, the 40 the the crosser to Jayden Reed that
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  he went down.
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  Now, sorry, the first two passes of the game were actually passes.
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  Well, yeah, I would hope.
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  Well, I think they would have put that on Willis to start the game.
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  You think right, especially with Jacob's performance last week.
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  But I like it, though. Get him that confidence.
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  Get a couple of small completions, then get Jacobs involved.
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  Now you got Malik who can extend the play with his legs or even make the play with
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  his legs. I just think it was a good game plan because I think obviously the other
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  team was planning on them to run to the ball.
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  So they came out and passed the first couple of downs.
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  So yeah, it's the biggest thing that's impressed me with this Packers team
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  this year is just simply the defense.
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  It was Jeff Halfley has made such a huge like switching that defense to more of a
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  typical four, three cover to really cover one with only having one deep safety.
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  That's his college style.
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  He hasn't incorporated that as much.
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  But I mean, this point in the season, I mean, there's some bias with this.
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  Xavier McKinney has been the greatest acquisition in the offseason.
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  Yeah, other than the Philly game getting ran up 30 points the next two games,
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  they've been looking a lot better.
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  But so for me, that's beginning to see the first game.
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  And the field condition was horrible.
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  The travel was horrible.
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  Now, can I sit here and make all these excuses?
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  Of course, for the Packers, of all people.
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  But I mean, it's that was a great game.
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  It was a great game to me that showed a lot about who this Packer team
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  actually is capable of being this season right off the rip.
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  I know it's I didn't I have predicted to lose the last two weeks with Willis
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  under quarterback trust to be sitting at two and one with their two and all
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  within loves absence is crazy to me.
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  But one with Jordan Love this year.
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  But so the biggest thing with that week one game in watching that defense,
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  it was like the field conditions were bad.
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  They were bad for both teams. Travels bad, bad for both teams.
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  We didn't tackle any ball carrier.
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  Everything was arm tackling.
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  There was no gang tackling.
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  They were just giving up on tackling one off that game.
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  That has been fixed. The last two games, you could tell that there was some
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  fire lit in that defense there.
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  They've been way more physical the last two games and they've been, you know,
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  getting to that ball carrier.
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  It was I mean, for Jaylen Hurts, big quarterback, big guy.
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  But for him to carry two people for four yards to get a first down on that,
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  I believe was the second to last drive of that game where it put Philly ahead.
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  Yeah, like you should not have that as a defensive player.
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  Like, I don't care who the quarterback is.
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  You should not be dragging two players four yards in the most crucial point of
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  the game on a third down stop.
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  Yeah, like and that is what seems to be the difference to me.
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  The last two games in the defense and they're just getting after the ball.
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  Big test coming up this week, you know, for the defense.
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  You know, it's the proof it I guess, you know.
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  Oh, we'll talk about that later.
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  But I think that's I think it's a great test for both teams, honestly,
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  even though the Vikings arguably have been tested the last two weeks straight.
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  But I don't know. I don't know. We'll get to it. We'll get to it.
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  Titans probably right there next to the Panthers is the worst team in the league.
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  Absolutely. Just a complete dumpster fire right now.
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  Sorry, Titans fans. If there's a Titans fan out there that wants to come on
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  and tell us what they need to do to fix their woes, I think they need to know where to hit us up.
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  What's up? I think they need to get Malik Willis back.
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  The Colts fan you like seeing the Titans not doing anything.
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  Yeah, I'd rather have them have Will Levis.
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  He had that great first game and now he's looked pretty atrocious.
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  Yeah, this week was bad. This was a really bad week for him.
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  The crazy thing is it wasn't as bad as last week.
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  I mean, he completed 26 to 34.
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  Like, if you look at just that pick six at the end of the first quarter and totally flipped the whole game.
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  Yeah. So right there, that the game was totally different.
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  The big and the craziest thing, too, is we had eight sacks.
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  I can never remember a time when the Packers had six in a game, let alone eight sacks.
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  And Will Levis is a mobile quarterback. You know, so it's that that's wild.
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  The other biggest stat is we have seven interceptions this year.
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  That's what we had to all of last week.
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  We had seven interceptions as a whole last year and we have that through three games.
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  And you called it, you know, for those that are just joining us, Tyler hosted our whole season last year.
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  And like you said, all last season, you needed to get a new DC, need to get him out of here,
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  get somebody whoever in place. I didn't care who.
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  And when they hired this guy, you were like, OK, I know who he is.
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  He had fun. OK. Warm body.
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  You know, and but he but he seems to be making a massive difference already in, again, arguably a tough NFC north.
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  It is a good one.
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  It's looking like a three team race right now. That's absolutely.
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  But moving right along, let's hop right into the Ravens traveling to Dallas.
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  Excuse me. Dallas looking like they are going to take this one.
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  And wait. No, no, no. I'm sorry.
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  All the way around. Oh, yeah.
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  Well, no, look, it wasn't Dallas leading, though.
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  No, no, no. They never led this game. Ravens were ahead and Dallas put on Ravens.
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  Ravens are up 21, 6. OK.
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  Dallas, OK. Yeah, I'm totally getting that backwards.
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  Must have been Derrick Henry's running that just confused me. Messed me up.
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  Probably was. But we finally saw King Henry this week.
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  Yeah. I mean, Ravens had one hundred and ninety one yards, like 11 minutes left in the third quarter.
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  It's insane. You know, like that's how much they dominated them throughout the whole game.
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  I think after this week, the Cowboys are now the only team you said that have left more rushing yards than the Colts.
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  And when you give up two fifty five to to a team, it's pretty easy to do that.
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  But yeah, the Cowboys rush defense was trashed and all 75 percent of the plays that the Ravens ran were runs.
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  Oh, yeah. You are getting involved.
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  That's not a formula to win an NFL game unless you're getting five, six, seven yards of pop.
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  And they were. So they just kept doing it. Why stop? Yeah.
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  You can stop us like the Packers against the Colts. Why stop? Yeah. Yeah.
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  That game was like the Vikings forty niners game where it should have been more of a blow up than it ended up being.
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  Is how I felt like that game was going. This wasn't a three point game. No, it was definitely.
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  No, absolutely not. The Ravens tried to give it away.
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  You know what? Dax says that jump off. Did you hear that? Did you see that?
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  Did you see that? He was like, jump off then. But they can't run the ball.
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  That's what's just killing that offense right now. And then the defense is on the field too long.
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  Yeah. No, that's not winning football. It's not. He only had 67 yards.
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  Like you got to get him. Yeah. He was all frustrated about that.
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  What's cool about C.D. is after the game, obviously frustrating game, he was still outside signing autographs before he hopped in his Lambo.
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  I think it was the Lambo SUV. Yeah. Whatever. I can't remember what that's called.
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  Might as well spend some of it. Yeah. Yeah. But I thought it was cool.
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  He's taking a picture with people as soon as the picture's done, you know, he's cheesing and then back to like, you know, probably upset, obviously, that they lost that one.
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  But what else? I was going to say, what do we need to see from Dallas? Jerry Jones went to the locker room after the game.
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  Who knows what he said? But you got Jerry coming down there to the locker room. You know, I wonder if is that a thing?
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  You think the players respect that at all? He's been doing it like that the whole time.
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  So I think it's anything new. I mean, they need Emmett Smith back is what they really need. They need what? Emmett Smith back. They need that line.
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  Well, that's not going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. They just can't run the ball.
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  So that's, you know, and their defense like Parsons, he's still hustling out, you know, watching the taping over him.
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  I mean, he's still flying. A lot of arm tackles on defense, a lot of business decisions going on.
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  So they don't look like a fired up team right now. If the Cowboys defense isn't getting turnovers, they're not a good defense.
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  That's what the whole defense is based off. True. Like when Trayvon had his going nuts.
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  Yeah, when he was going crazy, the defense, everybody wanted to talk about their defense.
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  That's a great point. They were a top five defense in the league.
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  Yeah, because they get up and then they just pin their ears back and attack and then they just sit in their little zone and be aggressive on the ball.
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  And if you give Dak Prescott a lead, you're usually fine. Usually fine. Unless you're in the playoffs. But you're usually fine.
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  It's hard. It's just hard getting the lead in the playoffs. Yeah, they don't really get the lead in the playoffs.
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  Braylon Cook isn't really doing enough for them as their second receiver right now either.
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  So, I mean, they're just bracketing CD all day long. Ferguson had a decent little game today.
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  Yeah, I mean, even even decent game. He had 95 yards on six catches, but he had 11 targets.
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  Exactly. Five balls, he's not catching. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, 51 attempts for Dak too.
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  That's a lot of attempts. I mean, that's tough. Again, that means we know we can't run the ball. We know that.
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  So now we have to, you know, I mean, compared to compared to the other side, Lamar only thrown at 15, but he did run it for 14.
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  So that, you know, it kind of makes up at least part of it. We'll go to seven.
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  But how about the Ravens though? Real quick. One and two. That's it's kind of a surprise to me.
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  But they've kind of been in. They're really in that Chiefs game. Right. Yeah.
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  And then who did they play before the Raiders Raiders Raiders? That was the Raiders. I think was a fluke game. I think so.
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  Trap game. I think so, too. And Derek Henry wasn't didn't look like himself at all.
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  Now, can Derek Henry repeat this next week? You know, we'll see.
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  Obviously, we'd like him to. I'd like him to. I'm not I don't have him in fantasy by any means, but they got a tough one coming up against Buffalo.
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  You know, that's that's a prove it game for the Ravens against a Buffalo team that looks pretty darn good right now.
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  Because then they follow the one and three if they lose that game. That's tough. And then travel to Cincinnati.
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  Now, Cincinnati did not look good, but still, you never know.
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  I mean, the Unders went nine and five this week. So currently, yeah, you know, it's it's early still football.
• 20:24
  Everyone's still trying to find their identity.
• 20:26
  So that's why I think some of these teams are, you know, completely changing like the commanders.
• 20:30
  There was a couple other teams that really just you're like the Panthers, you know, look at the look at the look at the look at the undefeated teams right now.
• 20:38
  The Vikings. No way. No way you've seen them going three and all right now.
• 20:42
  The Seahawks. I don't know who they played. No way they went three and all.
• 20:45
  And who's the other one other than the bills? Steelers. Yeah.
• 20:48
  Yeah. Justin. Justin Fields. Yes. You surprised me. Yeah. Come on.
• 20:52
  How's it feel to be a Bears fan right now?
• 20:54
  Oh, you know, that's the one great thing about the Ravens in their favor, though, is they have seen North trash this year.
• 21:01
  The Steelers are not a three and all team.
• 21:03
  You know, the offense is not a three and I like the Steelers defense is always going to be.
• 21:09
  But the Bengals are who the heck knows.
• 21:11
  And then the Browns, they look terrible, which is crazy because we were, you know, in our preseason show, we're talking up the AFC North like I feel like it's always been such a good division.
• 21:20
  It should be a great division. It should be close.
• 21:22
  Last year was insane.
• 21:24
  And I was around above five hundred in that division.
• 21:27
  I kind of expected to see a repeat of that.
• 21:29
  And it is not trending that way.
• 21:31
  No, it is not. Not trending that way. What a great football mind this table is.
• 21:34
  Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, no doubt.
• 21:37
  Keep listening to us. Here we go.
• 21:39
  Let's head right into the Bears traveling to Indianapolis.
• 21:43
  Mike, I'm going to go ahead and let you take this away.
• 21:46
  Not only do I want to know your opinion on the game, but let us know, you know, since you weren't here for any of the previous week,
• 21:53
  let us know what you're kind of looking for from the Colts this season.
• 21:56
  Now, knowing some of the injuries that have happened, you know,
• 22:00
  I'm sorry with that game. I mean, I think the biggest thing is
• 22:03
  a year ago when Anthony Richardson was drafted.
• 22:07
  Franchise me. Everyone's super excited.
• 22:11
  Excited. The ceiling is pretty pretty high.
• 22:15
  And there's no limit to how high how high he can go on this.
• 22:19
  And watching him play yesterday was that was not a franchise quarterback.
• 22:25
  He can't hit the short throws, can't hit the ones that you have to hit the four yard outs, anything below 10 yards.
• 22:33
  He is just so inaccurate.
• 22:35
  I think it was 52 percent for the game.
• 22:38
  But you think it's the speed of the game.
• 22:40
  Do you think he's still a little bit timid with the injury from last year?
• 22:45
  What I think I'm not questioning anybody.
• 22:47
  No, absolutely. I think it's an experience.
• 22:50
  After watching the Monday night game, Jaden Daniels played 55 games in college.
• 22:55
  Fifty five. That's a lot.
• 22:57
  That's so many games. And they were like high profile games.
• 23:00
  Yeah. He's playing for LSU. Yeah.
• 23:02
  And Anthony Richardson, I don't know the exact number, but he's played less than 20 games in the last three years.
• 23:09
  It's so little.
• 23:11
  And so that was the big risk with him was he doesn't have the experience.
• 23:15
  So I think part of me is still, hey, he just needs to get out there, learn the speed of the game, get some throws in against some real defenses, take some hits.
• 23:25
  Obviously, the injury last year, like huge disappointment missing out on another season, only playing three games last year.
• 23:32
  That's a lot of experience.
• 23:34
  And so, yeah, it's like you I watched Jaden Daniels.
• 23:37
  I'm like, that's who I want Anthony Richardson to be.
• 23:40
  He's had 55 games of college experience.
• 23:43
  Anthony Richardson's got to catch up to that now.
• 23:46
  So excited about the defense.
• 23:49
  Leighton Latu, Stripsack Fumble.
• 23:52
  Super exciting to see where his potential can go.
• 23:55
  I think he's going to be the edge rusher that the Colts have been missing since I'll go back to Dwight Freehne, probably Robert Mathis.
• 24:03
  You know, I'm not saying he's going to be that good.
• 24:05
  I'm just saying we haven't had anyone since then.
• 24:07
  Yeah, sure.
• 24:08
  I mean, if he turns into either of those players, amazing.
• 24:12
  I you know, that's super exciting to see Jonathan Taylor's back to a hundred.
• 24:18
  He's been a stud. Yep.
• 24:19
  Two hundred yard games in a row.
• 24:21
  Last time he did that was during the MVP season.
• 24:23
  You have him in fantasy.
• 24:24
  I do not have him in fantasy now.
• 24:26
  Our league is cutthroat.
• 24:28
  We I don't even think he was up for bed this year.
• 24:30
  No, he was a keeper.
• 24:31
  I heard you guys were talking smack before.
• 24:33
  Yeah, we played hotty.
• 24:35
  One of us won the week two game.
• 24:38
  So we'll see how your picks go this week.
• 24:43
  That is true. I'm excited to pick.
• 24:46
  But yeah, I think it's you know, this is going to be I thought this season could be a nine to 10 win season if everything turned out right.
• 24:53
  You know, the 0 and 2 start obviously puts a big damper on that.
• 24:56
  But we've still got a lot of young players and a lot of excitement.
• 25:00
  And I think we can we can compete for the wild card this year is probably our top end.
• 25:04
  But, you know, just getting Anthony Richardson, the experience is huge.
• 25:07
  One hundred percent. I mean, now, of course, I clicked off the page, but I'm pretty sure he went 10 for 20 passing and then another eight rushes.
• 25:14
  It's just yeah, I just I don't know.
• 25:17
  You're you're putting the ball in his hands. He's got to do something with it.
• 25:19
  The eight rushes he only garnered like I believe it was 24 yards like come on, come on.
• 25:24
  It's got to be something if you're not going to throw the darn ball.
• 25:26
  And he even said that at the end of the game, you know, hey, if I'm not throwing it correctly, you know, they talked about him pushing the running back into the end zone,
• 25:34
  calling out some some blisters that were coming for Jonathan Taylor.
• 25:39
  Taylor called said, hey, AR is helping me out on those.
• 25:42
  But yeah, he's got to throw the ball because you can't hand it off and become a one dimensional defense unless you're a one dimensional offense, unless you're playing the Cowboys.
• 25:50
  Or unless your defense is really, really good.
• 25:52
  And you can just, you know, our defense is not that good.
• 25:55
  And what if you're playing the Colts?
• 25:57
  Yeah.
• 25:58
  Oh, dang. But the Colts do got a big test this week.
• 26:04
  We'll touch on that later. But a game big game this week for the Colts on the Bears side of things.
• 26:10
  That's a disappointment. You know, if I'm a Bears fan now, you're seeing Caleb start taking better steps, though, better.
• 26:18
  I don't I am I am and I and I I want to hear your piece on this because I've been curious for a hot minute about Caleb Williams in general.
• 26:25
  But just I don't know. I think he's this is going to be crazy.
• 26:30
  But I feel like he's maturing a little bit.
• 26:34
  What how he's seeing the game and realizing it and how he's answering these questions at the end of the game.
• 26:39
  You can see some growth there, even in the first couple of weeks.
• 26:42
  I'll give you that. I'll give you that.
• 26:43
  And I mean, the guy still in thirty three for fifty two, which is that's a lot of throwing for three sixty three to tugs and to picks to picks are ugly again.
• 26:52
  But I don't know. I feel like he's improving at least a little bit.
• 26:57
  Who do they got next week? And then I and then I want to hear you go off on Caleb Williams because that was a pretty ugly face.
• 27:03
  They got the Rams who just pulled the crazy one off themselves.
• 27:07
  And it is so with no or tackles or any team is decimated.
• 27:15
  That was a both. That was a crazy game. But Caleb Williams, what's your take right now?
• 27:19
  Three weeks in with Team Rob, I would agree with you that he has he has matured just in the fact that he's not trying to run around like he was in the pack.
• 27:29
  Well, he's actually trying to like set his feet, look for that receiver, not try to be Superman.
• 27:33
  Now, that's in one game. But it's he for one, you can't ask a rookie quarterback to throw fifty two team fifty two times a game and win a game.
• 27:42
  That's just not a recipe for success in the NFL. But Caleb has looked pretty porous.
• 27:47
  He's looked really, really bad. I mean, he you can't make an excuse for talent.
• 27:52
  He has D.J. Moore, Roma, Dune's a Roma, Dune's a Malik, neighbors and Marvin Harris and we're all in consideration for the first receiver draft.
• 27:58
  Absolutely. Rome came out, had a game, 112 yards on six receptions.
• 28:01
  He proved why he was worthy of that draft stock. But Caleb hasn't.
• 28:05
  He he looks like he's still playing college football.
• 28:09
  I mean, you're not playing in the pack 12, but no, this is NFL football.
• 28:12
  You're not going to outrun edge defenders in the NFL. You're not going to run a lot of D tackles in the NFL.
• 28:17
  And it's tough to to prove that number one overall pick, because also I would say that Trevor Lawrence hasn't shown me enough to price.
• 28:25
  You know, Trevor Lawrence, Bryce Young, another one. Yeah.
• 28:27
  So I hear you on that front. It's it's just crazy watching like him process.
• 28:33
  Right. He's he seems to be processing the offense correctly.
• 28:36
  He's missing throws you don't miss with his caliber.
• 28:40
  The dude's loaded with potential. Nobody's going to argue that.
• 28:43
  But it's like, I don't know if he's too much in his mind and if he's trying to be too much.
• 28:47
  I don't know. I have a joke in one of my groups of threads that he's just too zesty.
• 28:51
  Yeah, he's just a zesty fella.
• 28:54
  So I don't know if it's like, like, I don't know, man.
• 28:57
  You look at it as just demeanor on the sideline. Right.
• 29:00
  It's like there's the the the side by side, like him and Justin Fields.
• 29:04
  And it's just like the look of a Bears quarterback.
• 29:07
  But he hasn't like when he was in UFC, he had the energy.
• 29:10
  He had the passion that does not seem to be there.
• 29:13
  His his last year there was different. But yeah, and I think more energy that I think that might be a part of it.
• 29:20
  Like his last year he's coming off winning the Heisman. He's on top of the world.
• 29:23
  He's the number one college quarterback.
• 29:25
  He would have been the number one quarterback drafted that year.
• 29:27
  So I don't know if that just got to his head and he can't get it out of it or what?
• 29:31
  Because I love to see it. Yeah. Packers fan.
• 29:34
  The Bears are the biggest rival we have. Sorry, Vikings fans.
• 29:37
  He just wants to be packed for my home's too much for me.
• 29:39
  He wants to dance. I watched the all 22 on it.
• 29:41
  I wanted to see all his receivers he missed and he missed a ton constantly.
• 29:46
  He was first read, eyes down, not scrambling.
• 29:49
  But offensive lineman is actually not helping him at all.
• 29:52
  No, they're rushing two point three average yards per carry.
• 29:56
  So that's almost like the Dallas scenario right now. It's all on his shoulder.
• 29:59
  So I'll give him a little bit of break there.
• 30:01
  But, you know, when you draft a top receiver like that in a second pick,
• 30:05
  do you think an offensive tackle or offensive guard would have looked real nice there instead?
• 30:09
  You already had Allen and Moore.
• 30:11
  So would that be a difference maker right there?
• 30:13
  So, yeah, Rome had a nice game, but they also chucked the ball 52 times.
• 30:19
  So I don't know. I'm still he's processing at the front at the line a little faster,
• 30:25
  but he's still missing reads all over the place and throws.
• 30:28
  And that's the thing being with Rome like, yeah, a good game.
• 30:30
  Six on or 112 on six catches targeted 11 times. Yeah.
• 30:34
  And he had like a 50 yard or one of them.
• 30:36
  So the other five catches were what? 70 yards. Exactly.
• 30:40
  So, yeah, it's I don't know, man.
• 30:42
  It's you're right. The lack of run game is you need that as a rookie quarterback.
• 30:47
  You can't like everyone in the NFL needs it.
• 30:49
  Like Malik Willis. Yeah. Like Malik Willis.
• 30:51
  He ain't doing anything he's doing in the air if the Packers aren't running like they are.
• 30:55
  Sure. And the thing with like the drafting a tackle, they did that last year.
• 31:00
  They got a right in the left tackle the last two years with Darnell Wright.
• 31:03
  And I think it's Braxton Jones.
• 31:06
  But they spent their draft capital on that the last two years and they've proven to be they have potential.
• 31:11
  So where's the running game then?
• 31:13
  I don't that sucks because Deandre Swift, some fantasy team.
• 31:18
  Droppable at this point. I started Jaleel McLaughlin over him.
• 31:21
  Right before we move on, the Bears have arguably four games as opportunity coming up.
• 31:28
  They play L.A. at home. The Rams L.A. at home this week.
• 31:32
  That could be tough from what we've seen somehow this year from the Rams.
• 31:36
  Carolina at home. Jacksonville at home.
• 31:40
  That's three straight home games in a row for the Bears.
• 31:43
  So they need to take advantage of those opportunities for sure.
• 31:46
  Then they go on by and then they travel to Washington.
• 31:49
  Yeah, we saw Washington play a heck of a game last night, honestly.
• 31:52
  But really good. You know, if the Bears defense is that good, that's a winnable game for them.
• 31:57
  So I think they got to be in that game.
• 31:59
  They got to at least go two and two in those games and those two wins better be Caroline and Jacksonville.
• 32:04
  If they want to get back into it, they need to go three and one.
• 32:07
  They need to take the two easy wins. Great.
• 32:09
  And I'm excited for that Bears Washington game.
• 32:12
  I mean, I think the top two picks.
• 32:14
  Nothing more exciting than watching the dude that got picked ahead of you.
• 32:18
  Yeah. Play against you.
• 32:20
  Jaden McDaniels is going to be on fire for that game, I'm sure. Oh, for sure.
• 32:23
  I mean, at this point, though, the Bears, they're not fighting for anything.
• 32:27
  They got six games against arguably the toughest division in the league in the NFC North.
• 32:31
  That's six losses at this point.
• 32:32
  Nobody's going to expect them to come close to competing with the division.
• 32:36
  They're going to beat either the Lions. So they're already at eight losses.
• 32:38
  I mean, they could beat one. They could win one of those five.
• 32:40
  The defense has keyed them in a bunch of games.
• 32:43
  Don't the Vikings always manage to lose at Chicago?
• 32:46
  Whoops. Whoops.
• 32:49
  We'll end that out real quick.
• 32:51
  Mike coming in here thinking he can talk about whatever he wants.
• 32:54
  Anyway, last game to recap really quick.
• 32:58
  This is the script here.
• 32:59
  Yeah, come on.
• 33:00
  Sorry, I got off script there.
• 33:01
  It's my microphone. My microphone's still working.
• 33:04
  But anyway, real quick, last game to recap. Kind of an interesting one.
• 33:08
  Eagles in New Orleans.
• 33:11
  Eagles pull that thing off 15 to 12. That was kind of an ugly one.
• 33:16
  There you go.
• 33:17
  I would say.
• 33:18
  Three zero and a half.
• 33:19
  I think for the Saints, I feel.
• 33:20
  What a boring game.
• 33:21
  But for the Saints, I don't feel that bad.
• 33:23
  Their offense was nonexistent compared to the weeks prior to this point.
• 33:28
  But you only lost to the Eagles by three points.
• 33:31
  But it's at home.
• 33:32
  I did expect the Saints to win this game, especially with the momentum they had coming into the game.
• 33:36
  And again, I don't think Jalen Hurts is on fire right now.
• 33:41
  The Eagles are in disarray.
• 33:43
  Yeah.
• 33:44
  From the end of last year even.
• 33:46
  Yeah, and we mentioned it last week.
• 33:48
  Did Jason Kelsey seriously hold that O-line together that hard?
• 33:52
  Because Jalen Hurts just feels like he doesn't have the time he should.
• 33:56
  Yes, he's still through for 300 yards, but.
• 33:58
  They're missing AJ Brown.
• 34:00
  Which is huge. That's huge.
• 34:02
  That's an offense.
• 34:03
  And I think was it this week that Devontae Smith took a nasty hit?
• 34:06
  He was still playing.
• 34:07
  He came back.
• 34:08
  He did come back?
• 34:09
  He came back.
• 34:10
  He had a decent game.
• 34:11
  Yeah.
• 34:12
  Back to the tight end, Goddard.
• 34:14
  I was going to say, Goddard had a crazy game.
• 34:16
  Goddard went off.
• 34:17
  That would have been a fantasy one.
• 34:18
  No touchdowns, but 170 yards.
• 34:20
  Philly's record for receiving yards as a tight end.
• 34:23
  Really?
• 34:24
  Philly record for.
• 34:25
  Philly record for.
• 34:26
  That surprised me, was Zach Gertz being there so long.
• 34:28
  Wow.
• 34:29
  For a tight end specifically?
• 34:30
  For a tight end specifically.
• 34:31
  Okay.
• 34:32
  Wow.
• 34:33
  Wow.
• 34:34
  And then you had Saquon almost do a King Henry.
• 34:35
  The same thing.
• 34:36
  147 yards.
• 34:37
  147 on 17 carries.
• 34:38
  What a start to the year for him.
• 34:39
  He had a long one in there.
• 34:40
  Yeah, it is 65 yards.
• 34:41
  Yeah.
• 34:42
  But then both of the touchdowns came in the second half in the fourth quarter.
• 34:48
  So that was the difference of the whole game.
• 34:50
  Yeah, still like you're about to say, you take that out, you're still almost at 100
• 34:53
  yards on 16.
• 34:54
  Oh yeah.
• 34:55
  Hey, I have Barkley in fantasy.
• 34:56
  I ain't mad about any of those.
• 34:57
  I bet.
• 34:58
  I bet.
• 34:59
  Can I still beat you?
• 35:00
  I'm still a little higher he says.
• 35:02
  But yeah, for me, maybe just a little off game for the Saints, see if they can rebound.
• 35:06
  Again, I didn't expect the Saints to do anything this year.
• 35:09
  So the fact that they did what they did to Dallas really surprised me.
• 35:12
  So who do they got next?
• 35:14
  Eagles D kind of showed up today.
• 35:16
  They did.
• 35:17
  Then Carter, Jaylen Carter played a heck of a game.
• 35:19
  That dude's a dog.
• 35:20
  That dude's a dog.
• 35:21
  Well, we all thought he was, but he hasn't really showed out since he's been drafted.
• 35:26
  Oh, last year he was-
• 35:27
  Couple games.
• 35:28
  He was the rookie of the year last year.
• 35:30
  Interesting.
• 35:31
  I guess I didn't watch enough Eagles games last year.
• 35:32
  It was more towards the end of the year.
• 35:33
  The last half of the season, he was just on an absolute tear.
• 35:35
  That dude's a monster.
• 35:36
  That's when the Bikes played him.
• 35:37
  He didn't do anything.
• 35:38
  No, but I'm telling you, that Eagles defense just made, I'm just so sold on it.
• 35:42
  You love them.
• 35:43
  You're so sold on the idea of what they did to build that young defense.
• 35:46
  All those new cornerbacks they got.
• 35:47
  All from already a championship winning team.
• 35:49
  I'm sold on it.
• 35:50
  Just give them time to marinate.
• 35:51
  I know I keep saying it, but-
• 35:53
  Zach Bond, the addition of Zach Bond on that defense has been huge too.
• 35:57
  It was a get back game for Bond too because he was on the Saints.
• 36:01
  He was all over the field against the Packers.
• 36:03
  I don't know, a little close to home there being a Badger.
• 36:09
  Yeah.
• 36:10
  He's really had a good year.
• 36:12
  At the end they made it tight.
• 36:14
  Carr had a really bad interception on the last position too, like in Carr fashion.
• 36:19
  You're like, oh, we just got to kick a field goal.
• 36:22
  We have 50 seconds on the clock.
• 36:24
  Let me chuck one down the middle real quick to hope and pray on second and five.
• 36:30
  Don't worry, it's Derek Carr versus Kirk Cousins next week.
• 36:34
  That's who they play.
• 36:35
  They go to Atlanta.
• 36:36
  I wonder if the Saints will be able to handle that.
• 36:38
  What's Atlanta's record?
• 36:39
  Are they one and two or two and one?
• 36:41
  Atlanta is one and two.
• 36:43
  One and two?
• 36:44
  That's a tough one and two.
• 36:46
  Atlanta's played a little bit better than I thought as well at this point in the season.
• 36:50
  It's a tough one and two.
• 36:51
  I'll give them that, but they're all in two at home.
• 36:54
  The Eagles are their only win.
• 36:58
  But then they played the Chiefs real close this past week.
• 37:01
  They should have beat the Steelers.
• 37:03
  They look great game against the Chiefs.
• 37:05
  And then a great game against, that's what I mean.
• 37:07
  It's a tough one and two.
• 37:08
  It's a tough one and two.
• 37:09
  They had two fourth downs that they didn't convert if either one of them goes their way.
• 37:14
  We're going to be talking about a third down here in a minute.
• 37:16
  I just love seeing Bijan get the ball.
• 37:18
  Finally.
• 37:19
  God, it's so relieving.
• 37:20
  I didn't have him in fantasy last year or this year.
• 37:22
  It's just like, get that dude the ball.
• 37:25
  He's fun to watch.
• 37:26
  He really is.
• 37:27
  He's like a Barkley with more athleticism.
• 37:29
  If that's possible.
• 37:31
  A little bit more power.
• 37:33
  Maybe more power than athleticism I would say.
• 37:36
  But it's like that dude just looks like a wrecking ball.
• 37:39
  He does.
• 37:40
  He's elite.
• 37:41
  His one cut.
• 37:42
  It's like Derek Henry and Barkley combined.
• 37:44
  Yeah, his one cut, he has so much explosiveness out of that one cut that he just leaves people
• 37:49
  just fending for their Jackstrap.
• 37:51
  Yeah, it's cool to watch, man.
• 37:54
  It's also cool seeing a running back number seven.
• 37:56
  I just find that neat.
• 37:57
  I mean he's also, he's thick, man.
• 38:00
  He's a big boy.
• 38:01
  5'11", 215.
• 38:02
  He's a big boy.
• 38:03
  He will run you over.
• 38:04
  He's a big boy.
• 38:05
  He will run you over.
• 38:06
  And they can spell him with Algier.
• 38:07
  They've got a great backup.
• 38:08
  For sure.
• 38:09
  And Bijan's even talked about it's great to get a breather on those longer drives.
• 38:13
  Yeah, and you're not necessarily worried about too much with Algier going in the game.
• 38:17
  He didn't have a bad season.
• 38:21
  But moving right along here just to update the standings for this past week, our guest
• 38:28
  Ben from last week went two and three.
• 38:30
  Rob, two and three.
• 38:33
  Yours truly, three and two.
• 38:34
  And Matt, Matt going four and one.
• 38:37
  That was Matt.
• 38:38
  Matt going four and one.
• 38:39
  Fire it up for you, buddy.
• 38:40
  Yeah, fire up, Matt.
• 38:41
  Fire it up, Matt.
• 38:42
  And then Jake, who was our guest from the first couple weeks, he ended up going two
• 38:45
  and three.
• 38:46
  So on the season, I'm leading, believe it or not, at nine and six.
• 38:52
  We all know that.
• 38:53
  Rob, right in second place, eight and seven.
• 38:56
  Jake at six and nine.
• 38:57
  Matt at six and four.
• 38:59
  And Ben, since it was his last week, last week, two and three will be his season standings
• 39:02
  at the moment.
• 39:03
  I will be sending Jake, Matt, Ben, all of the picks so we can keep this thing rolling
• 39:09
  with them as well, as well as Mike now and Tyler, who do not have any season standings
• 39:14
  at the moment.
• 39:15
  But they will next week.
• 39:16
  They're perfect so far.
• 39:17
  Yeah.
• 39:18
  I haven't missed a pick yet.
• 39:19
  Well, yeah, I mean, if you're open, you still don't have a win percentage.
• 39:22
  Sorry, my brain was like, yeah, they've got a great win percentage.
• 39:25
  Well, you can't have a win percentage if you don't win anything.
• 39:29
  But anyway, moving on again, another week in a row that I'm bad at math and it shows.
• 39:34
  All right.
• 39:35
  So with that, Kev.
• 39:36
  What about the Excel sheet that will do the math for you?
• 39:37
  What's up?
• 39:38
  Yeah.
• 39:39
  Well, I got to figure that out too.
• 39:40
  So with that, Kev, let's head right into our 10 talk.
• 39:49
  And starting right off with the injuries, we'll just go right down the list here.
• 39:54
  Brock Purdy got an MRI revealed, pretty much nothing.
• 39:58
  He's day to day though with some back soreness.
• 40:00
  Got to have them.
• 40:02
  Chargers are screwed this week.
• 40:05
  Both Chargers offensive tackles.
• 40:07
  Joel, Rashawn Slater, both to miss the game against the Chiefs.
• 40:11
  Herbert right now with a high ankle sprain, re aggravated that thing.
• 40:14
  So he's probably questionable.
• 40:19
  Heinecky will probably start for him if Herbert can't go.
• 40:22
  So probably not the end of the world for the Chargers, but still you'd rather have Justin
• 40:25
  Herbert out there.
• 40:26
  Sam Darnold went down in the Vikes game.
• 40:29
  We were all holding our breath as Nick Mullins ran onto the field, but Sam Darnold's MRI
• 40:33
  was clean.
• 40:34
  So he just got a little bruise in the knee, but he'll be alright.
• 40:37
  Thank you football guys.
• 40:38
  Looking to start next week.
• 40:40
  I'll throw it to Tyler at the end of this to give us a little Jordan Love update, so
• 40:43
  I'll move on.
• 40:45
  Skyler Thompson went down with a rib injury for the Dolphins.
• 40:50
  It's iffy if Skyler can go.
• 40:53
  If he can't, their options most likely are going to be Tim Boyle or Tyler Huntley.
• 40:57
  Good luck.
• 40:58
  I think there's only one answer there.
• 41:01
  Yeah, yeah.
• 41:03
  Orfit.
• 41:04
  Yeah, right.
• 41:06
  After last night's game, Bengals offensive tackle Trent Brown done for the season after
• 41:11
  tearing his partilater tendon.
• 41:12
  That sucks.
• 41:13
  That's a big loss.
• 41:14
  Adam Thielin.
• 41:15
  Love Adam Thielin.
• 41:16
  Placed on IR with a hamstring injury.
• 41:21
  So what jumps out, but before we do that, what's our Jordan Love update?
• 41:25
  We don't have much.
• 41:26
  We don't have much.
• 41:27
  Perfect.
• 41:28
  Lefleur came over today and said that they're doing everything they can to get him to play
• 41:32
  this week.
• 41:33
  It's obviously a huge game, but it was kind of he started practicing in limited participation
• 41:38
  last week.
• 41:39
  He started yesterday's practice as limited participation.
• 41:42
  Now, we don't know what that means.
• 41:44
  That could mean that he's actually on the field study, like going over reps with the
• 41:47
  team.
• 41:48
  They're not going to release that.
• 41:49
  There's no media coverage on that aspect of it.
• 41:51
  So we'll see.
• 41:52
  I mean, it looks like all signs pointed are pointed towards him playing.
• 41:55
  But if he's not 100 percent, 100 percent, would you start this week?
• 42:00
  I would say if he is over 75 percent, I would start him.
• 42:05
  I like my chances with the 75 percent Jordan Love over a limited Packers offense with Malik
• 42:09
  Willis.
• 42:10
  Seen great things out of Malik Willis, but we're not playing.
• 42:13
  Sorry.
• 42:14
  The Colts are the Titans.
• 42:17
  I mean, this is a pivotal game.
• 42:18
  It's a division game.
• 42:19
  Mike's like, I'm not coming back next week.
• 42:23
  It's a pivotal game in the division right now.
• 42:24
  And the way this defense is, the Vikings defense is playing, I mean, we need we need all hands
• 42:28
  on deck.
• 42:29
  You know, like I said, I've loved what I've seen in Willis, but we I'll take a 75 percent
• 42:33
  love.
• 42:34
  It does.
• 42:35
  That's it.
• 42:36
  I mean, with with love having the full playbook, even if that that playbook won't be full,
• 42:39
  it'll be limited.
• 42:40
  Just the overall knowledge of where every receiver is going on every route.
• 42:43
  Do you have all these plays open to you?
• 42:46
  Got to get creative against this floor as defense loves in the game.
• 42:49
  They're going to bring pressure.
• 42:50
  So well, we're getting into the preview for the next game here.
• 42:53
  But I mean, it's just a whole different ballgame when you got when you got Malik Willis in
• 42:57
  there, you put, you know, seven, eight in the box and you just you trust that Vikings
• 43:01
  secondary to go and beat these young receivers.
• 43:03
  Hopefully the floor can get them open.
• 43:05
  But I mean, I think we need to score 21 to 24 points to have a hanging chance in this
• 43:09
  game.
• 43:10
  Oh, we'll see if he plays.
• 43:12
  Oh snap.
• 43:13
  All signs are pointed towards him, him playing as much as they'll say that.
• 43:19
  Right.
• 43:20
  Yeah.
• 43:21
  Everything so I have a feeling he's not going to I think he'll play.
• 43:22
  I think he'll play.
• 43:23
  I think two and two here.
• 43:24
  I think he'll play like a slight.
• 43:27
  Just putting it in like love's mindset, right?
• 43:30
  Like huge game in the season.
• 43:31
  Like he's going to do everything he can to want to play in that game.
• 43:33
  I think if he doesn't play as a doctor's decision or team decision.
• 43:37
  Fair enough.
• 43:38
  Fair enough.
• 43:39
  Nothing else really sticks out to me other than the Chargers are probably going to lose
• 43:41
  the Chiefs this week.
• 43:42
  But again, we'll get into that in our preview as that will be one of the games we're previewing.
• 43:48
  So great on Sam Darnold.
• 43:50
  We'll see him this week.
• 43:51
  But other than that, we'll just head right into our news here.
• 43:55
  So before we get on that there.
• 43:56
  So great on Sam MRI clean, even with like soreness or the limited mobility there.
• 44:01
  I mean, that could be big too.
• 44:04
  He'll be all right.
• 44:06
  He'll be a higher percentage.
• 44:08
  Sounds like the Vikings fans just think the quarterbacks are fine just how they are.
• 44:14
  Yeah.
• 44:15
  Darnold's 100, love is zero.
• 44:17
  Got it.
• 44:18
  Got it.
• 44:19
  That's where this is at.
• 44:20
  That's what we're going with.
• 44:21
  That's what we're going with.
• 44:24
  To start off the news during James Jr. for the Chargers suspended one game for a hit he
• 44:29
  had on Pat Friarmooth.
• 44:30
  It's not just that hit though.
• 44:32
  It's repeated failure to like follow the NFL's like safety rules or something like how they
• 44:36
  termed it.
• 44:37
  Yeah.
• 44:38
  Just like is this dude just a headhunter or what?
• 44:39
  He's a repeated offender.
• 44:41
  Which he didn't.
• 44:42
  He hasn't always done.
• 44:43
  That's kind of a newer development for him.
• 44:45
  He'll come down and hit you hard.
• 44:46
  But it's a little bit different now.
• 44:48
  15 years ago this isn't a thing.
• 44:49
  Yeah, yeah.
• 44:50
  100%.
• 44:51
  100%.
• 44:52
  Bring it back.
• 44:53
  I just wanted to mention this.
• 44:55
  I don't know if it's really worth it but Bryce Young is expected to start again this season
• 44:59
  according to Ian Rapoport.
• 45:00
  Who cares?
• 45:01
  Does that even matter?
• 45:03
  I mean for Bryce Young on a personal level for sure it does.
• 45:06
  Does it?
• 45:07
  Do you want to play?
• 45:08
  That's just a confidence.
• 45:09
  Probably not for the Panthers.
• 45:10
  Probably not for the Panthers.
• 45:11
  Isn't that just a confidence saying that like someone in the organization is like I'm going
• 45:15
  to leak this out too?
• 45:16
  You know who it's not?
• 45:17
  You know who's not saying that?
• 45:18
  David Tepper.
• 45:19
  Exactly.
• 45:20
  That's the thing.
• 45:21
  Is it a confidence?
• 45:22
  Is somebody in that organization going to try to build this confidence?
• 45:24
  Well, no.
• 45:25
  If you want to trade them you're going to be like yeah.
• 45:28
  If Skyler Thompson's injured do the Dolphins go after Bryce Young?
• 45:33
  I don't think they would.
• 45:34
  You would have to offer so much draft capital being one year off of the first overall pick.
• 45:38
  I don't think Carolina's going to charge that much.
• 45:42
  You have to.
• 45:43
  He's the number one pick last year.
• 45:45
  Stafford to Miami.
• 45:47
  Bryce Young to the run.
• 45:48
  It's to the Rams.
• 45:49
  And then draft picks over to the Panthers.
• 45:54
  I don't think Miami is happy.
• 45:57
  They're going to get Stafford.
• 45:58
  Yeah, I think Miami is happy.
• 45:59
  Why would LA do that?
• 46:00
  Well, because they're already hurt.
• 46:04
  Is there a season?
• 46:05
  They're 2-1-1.
• 46:06
  Well, I don't know how.
• 46:07
  They're 2-1-1.
• 46:08
  They just beat the Niners.
• 46:09
  They've got Sean McVeigh.
• 46:10
  They're always going to have a chance.
• 46:11
  Maybe in the offseason.
• 46:12
  But it's kind of a reset for them too if they did go that way.
• 46:18
  Last year, everybody thought it was going to be a reset and they damn near made it.
• 46:20
  They did make the playoffs.
• 46:21
  They did make the playoffs.
• 46:22
  With the late run, right?
• 46:23
  I don't think resets in McVeigh's vocabulary.
• 46:27
  I don't think LA says yes to that at all.
• 46:30
  And they gave up so much to get Stafford.
• 46:31
  True, but if they got something back though.
• 46:33
  Yeah, they got a Super Bowl.
• 46:35
  Price and a draft pick.
• 46:37
  I don't think the Panthers are considering a Bryce Young trick.
• 46:41
  You can't.
• 46:42
  Think of what they gave up to get Bryce Young.
• 46:46
  They did give up a lot.
• 46:50
  I would hope for the Panthers that they're not giving up that early on Bryce Young.
• 46:54
  If it's not for two first rounders, why would you make that trade?
• 46:56
  And who's giving up two first rounders?
• 46:58
  He's like a fourth rounder.
• 47:01
  Maybe a second rounder.
• 47:03
  Maybe a second.
• 47:04
  I don't know.
• 47:05
  If somebody's offering you a first round draft pick for Bryce Young right now, that's tough.
• 47:10
  That's tough, man.
• 47:11
  That's tough.
• 47:12
  I think if somebody offers one first rounder, I think they take it.
• 47:15
  Because let's say they wait and now you're next season and if Bryce Young's the same
• 47:18
  player, you're not getting first round draft pick for him next season.
• 47:21
  So if somebody calls at the right price, maybe they do take that.
• 47:25
  I just don't see anybody giving that much up.
• 47:27
  I don't think they would.
• 47:28
  Miami would though.
• 47:29
  They're the desperate one.
• 47:30
  Right.
• 47:31
  Miami is built to win right now.
• 47:32
  But think of who they could get a proven backup in the league right now.
• 47:37
  Like a Ryan Tanahill, a Joe Flagg.
• 47:39
  I think they believe in Skyler Thompson.
• 47:42
  If he's healthy, that was a nasty hit.
• 47:45
  I mean, he's hurting.
• 47:46
  He's hurting.
• 47:47
  I don't know.
• 47:48
  I mean, if I'm a Dolphin fan, I want some kind of move.
• 47:53
  But he's calling for Joe Flacco.
• 47:55
  But is, yeah, okay.
• 47:56
  If I'm a Dolphin fan, I do not want Bryce Young.
• 47:59
  I was just wondering if they would do it.
• 48:01
  But yeah, I mean, I want somebody like.
• 48:02
  I'll take a Mitch Trabisky right now.
• 48:04
  Yeah.
• 48:05
  Tanahill, Trabisky.
• 48:06
  What's his name out there?
• 48:07
  Russell Wilson.
• 48:08
  Russell Wilson was the other one out there.
• 48:11
  See that that'd be a move for Miami.
• 48:13
  Yeah.
• 48:14
  If I'm Pittsburgh, I'm entertaining that.
• 48:16
  What else are you going to get out of Russell?
• 48:17
  Justin Fields won you three games.
• 48:18
  Yeah.
• 48:19
  And he's like 10 years younger.
• 48:20
  Yeah.
• 48:21
  The only problem with Russell Wilson, it's so the Dolphins is a timing throwing offense.
• 48:25
  And I don't think he's a timing throwing quarterback.
• 48:28
  But he likes a scamper.
• 48:30
  He likes to make plays on his feet.
• 48:32
  He doesn't see in Madden an improviser.
• 48:34
  Yeah, exactly.
• 48:37
  Even that, though, if he's put in a system that just requires him to hit that target,
• 48:41
  that's open because you're throwing to the two fastest players in the NFL.
• 48:45
  But in any system, that's always throw it to the open receiver and Kayla Williams still
• 48:48
  doesn't do that.
• 48:50
  But let's look at experience here.
• 48:52
  That was the first name that came to mind.
• 48:55
  But that would be interesting, though, if like Pittsburgh would entertain that.
• 48:58
  I don't know why they wouldn't.
• 48:59
  But Miami's got to do something.
• 49:01
  They got to do something.
• 49:02
  They have a team ready to win now.
• 49:04
  They do.
• 49:05
  No offense.
• 49:06
  Yeah, you can't send Tim Boyle out there.
• 49:07
  No.
• 49:08
  But moving on to something that probably will not be a debate.
• 49:12
  This might be short.
• 49:13
  Kansas City at Atlanta this week, kind of a late no call as far as like late in the game
• 49:18
  on a third and five from a six yard line about four minutes left.
• 49:22
  Looked like a clear P.I. to me.
• 49:23
  I mean, who was it?
• 49:24
  Drake London was the receiver.
• 49:25
  No, Pitz.
• 49:26
  It was Pitz.
• 49:27
  OK, yeah.
• 49:28
  I mean, he was getting pretty much tackled before the ball even was near him.
• 49:31
  Was that P.I.?
• 49:32
  Nah, I don't play.
• 49:33
  I'm just kidding.
• 49:34
  It was for sure.
• 49:35
  P.I. for sure.
• 49:38
  He didn't turn his head.
• 49:42
  He never looked for it.
• 49:47
  It's just another instance of the refs being on KC's side.
• 49:49
  I mean, it's like I hate to say that and talk about it, but it's so many constant occurrences
• 49:54
  at this point where it has to be talked about.
• 49:55
  I didn't even want to bring that up.
• 49:58
  Because like I think the Chiefs are good again, as I said a couple of weeks ago, I think the
• 50:02
  Chiefs could actually three-peat.
• 50:04
  But it does suck to see that type of no-call.
• 50:09
  It does.
• 50:10
  It does make you question it.
• 50:13
  It makes you question it.
• 50:15
  And there's never been a three-peat in the NFL and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 50:19
  And we can just, you know.
• 50:20
  You want them to earn it if they earn it.
• 50:22
  Things roll downhill.
• 50:23
  You saying Goodell's a Swifty, bro?
• 50:26
  Hey, man, he could be.
• 50:28
  He could be.
• 50:29
  He could be.
• 50:30
  And right before we move on from news, I got something I got to throw in there really quick
• 50:33
  for old time's sake.
• 50:35
  How's our Rogers watch looking, buddy?
• 50:38
  Rogers watch?
• 50:39
  Well, that's less of a concern nowadays.
• 50:42
  But pretty damn good if you watch that last game.
• 50:45
  Yeah.
• 50:46
  Yeah.
• 50:47
  Not bad.
• 50:48
  I'm glad to see him back in the league, back performing.
• 50:51
  I've always loved Rogers.
• 50:52
  I think it was one of the smartest things he could do is venture outside of Green Bay
• 50:56
  from what that was given to him.
• 50:57
  It sucks.
• 50:58
  But I'm not too unhappy now with number 10.
• 51:02
  I bet not.
• 51:03
  It makes it a lot easier.
• 51:04
  I can tell you that much.
• 51:05
  I bet not.
• 51:06
  We're annoyed.
• 51:07
  Yeah.
• 51:08
  Us Vikings fans are annoyed.
• 51:09
  Well, we kind of missed out on him now.
• 51:11
  You think about the far back in the day, one year at the Jets did horrible.
• 51:15
  Well, last year he got hurt so he didn't have a chance to do bad.
• 51:18
  Sam Darnold got one year here.
• 51:21
  But I don't think.
• 51:22
  I mean, you got Sam Darnold.
• 51:23
  Well, true.
• 51:24
  For this season.
• 51:25
  Oh, I know.
• 51:26
  So how you guys feel?
• 51:27
  I was.
• 51:28
  That'll be another time.
• 51:29
  All right.
• 51:30
  All right.
• 51:31
  Fair enough.
• 51:32
  Fair enough.
• 51:33
  I mean, I think Roger's watch is looking good.
• 51:35
  Number eight is looking good.
• 51:37
  Not green, though.
• 51:38
  I don't know.
• 51:39
  It looks weird.
• 51:40
  It's weird.
• 51:41
  Green.
• 51:42
  It looks weird.
• 51:43
  Yeah, he looks weird in that green.
• 51:44
  Can't say that I tune into the Rogers Tuesday on the Mac if he show much anymore.
• 51:48
  You don't know.
• 51:49
  No point.
• 51:50
  No point.
• 51:51
  Anyway, with that, let's move on to bonehead move of the week.
• 51:55
  So the first I got two quick boneheads.
• 52:07
  The first one actually happened at the Vikings game, of course, right at the end of the game.
• 52:14
  We got fans fighting in the stands, which is wild for Minnesota.
• 52:17
  I know.
• 52:18
  I don't think I've ever seen a video of fans fighting at a Minnesota game.
• 52:22
  But Minnesota, Houston fan made it happen.
• 52:26
  Made it happen.
• 52:27
  So disappointing for me.
• 52:29
  So that's just a personal bonehead move of the week.
• 52:31
  But the real bonehead move of the week, honestly, for me, came from Bengals defensive back Cam
• 52:38
  Taylor Britt as last week he was talking.
• 52:42
  All this talk before the commander's game on how they're a nice college offense.
• 52:47
  And Jane Daniels lit them up.
• 52:50
  Lit them up.
• 52:51
  And honestly, what's the coach there?
• 52:55
  What team?
• 52:56
  Zach Taylor.
• 52:57
  Zach Taylor was pretty disappointed in the comments.
• 52:59
  That's not what we do.
• 53:00
  You know, we're humble in our wins and our losses, but we don't talk before the game.
• 53:04
  So he's pretty disappointed in that.
• 53:07
  But how do you guys feel about the chirp and before the game just to go out there and take
• 53:11
  the L?
• 53:12
  I don't know.
• 53:13
  You got to be confident, right?
• 53:14
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 53:15
  Especially as a DB, I liked a little bit, you know, a little swag or two.
• 53:18
  But it's a DB thing to do, man.
• 53:19
  DB's the receivers.
• 53:20
  They're two weeks.
• 53:21
  So I can't really.
• 53:22
  That interception he had was absurd.
• 53:24
  Catch of the year so far.
• 53:25
  Yeah.
• 53:26
  So like he's kind of he's two for one right now.
• 53:28
  We'll give him that.
• 53:29
  You're cutting him slack.
• 53:30
  Yeah, I am.
• 53:31
  You're cutting him slack.
• 53:32
  I like a little bit.
• 53:33
  He's out of bone.
• 53:34
  Not everyone needs to be friends.
• 53:35
  Fair enough.
• 53:36
  No, I think that.
• 53:37
  The cool thing is he doubled down.
• 53:38
  Yeah.
• 53:39
  After he doubled down, he's like, I wasn't saying it was like a shot at him.
• 53:40
  Just saying it's a college style offense.
• 53:41
  And it's like, buddy, buddy, you got to see.
• 53:44
  You all got exposed.
• 53:45
  Yeah.
• 53:46
  Yeah.
• 53:47
  21 of 23.
• 53:48
  But it's Cliff Kingsbury.
• 53:49
  It is a college offense.
• 53:50
  It is.
• 53:51
  100 percent.
• 53:52
  It's not like he was not telling the truth.
• 53:54
  Why would you do anything else?
• 53:55
  We're not talking about that part.
• 53:56
  We're not talking about that part.
• 53:57
  All right.
• 53:58
  Sorry.
• 53:59
  I mean, I'm with Rob, though.
• 54:01
  I like it.
• 54:02
  Bring the shit talk back.
• 54:03
  All right.
• 54:04
  I like hearing it.
• 54:05
  But if you get 38 dropped on you, I want to hear what you have to say now.
• 54:09
  Yeah.
• 54:10
  Yeah.
• 54:11
  Which he accepted it.
• 54:12
  He accepted it.
• 54:13
  He was like, hey, it is what it is.
• 54:14
  You know, I said it.
• 54:15
  I still stand by it.
• 54:16
  You know, he accepted it.
• 54:17
  But yeah, no, I just thought it was funny.
• 54:18
  I thought it was funny.
• 54:19
  But that is week four's bonehead move of the week.
• 54:38
  And to start off week four, right?
• 54:41
  We're in week four.
• 54:42
  Yes, we are.
• 54:43
  We are.
• 54:44
  We are in week four.
• 54:45
  We're part of the way down, almost.
• 54:46
  So Vikings traveling to Lambeau banner with the boys game of the week.
• 54:51
  That's going to be tough.
• 54:53
  That's going to be tough.
• 54:54
  And honestly, I want to start with you on me.
• 54:57
  I'm glad the games in Lambeau with the obvious injury that we have to our quarterback.
• 55:06
  I think it's going to be a really, really, really close game, regardless of who's the
• 55:10
  quarterback, just because I believe that much in the floor system.
• 55:14
  I'm excited to see what our defense is going to do against what's turned out to be a top
• 55:18
  tier offense this year.
• 55:20
  I think the biggest thing that's going to be a deciding factor in this game on the defensive
• 55:24
  side of the ball for the Packers is how much pressure we get on Darnold.
• 55:27
  He really hasn't been pressured this year.
• 55:28
  Your offensive line's played great.
• 55:30
  Two best left tackles in football.
• 55:33
  That's very arguable, but let's just go past that.
• 55:38
  I'm still not taking anybody above Trent Williams at left hand.
• 55:42
  All right, second best.
• 55:43
  We'll take Zach in there.
• 55:47
  But what it's going to come down to is how much pressure we can get on the quarterback
• 55:50
  and if we can get these timely turnovers.
• 55:52
  Right.
• 55:53
  Xavier McKinney has been on fire.
• 55:54
  Let's see if we can get one on the back end.
• 55:56
  And if Malik Willis starts, it's going to be a heavy run game with that intermediate
• 55:59
  passing.
• 56:00
  But I am going to take my Packers.
• 56:01
  Going to take your Packers.
• 56:04
  Rob?
• 56:05
  Close game, though.
• 56:06
  I really do think it's going to be a really, really good game.
• 56:08
  Yeah, I think it's going to be a really good game.
• 56:10
  So especially if Willis starts, you're going to get a lot of those quick passes that I
• 56:15
  think kind of counters Flores' pressure.
• 56:19
  It's hard to get pressure on when the ball goes out of hand.
• 56:22
  I think that was an advantage last week that Stroud and them, they like run deeper routes.
• 56:27
  So I think it's all about Jacobs, whether they can get him run.
• 56:30
  The Vikings been a little bit sus on stopping the run a little bit.
• 56:34
  Vikings off and so on the other side, establishing the run.
• 56:37
  And I mean, I'd really like to have Addison and Hawkinson full force against in this game.
• 56:42
  What's Addison's status this week?
• 56:45
  Probably out.
• 56:46
  I haven't heard any whispers of him actually playing at all.
• 56:49
  No, they're injured on my fantasy team.
• 56:51
  So but yeah, I think it's going to be a close game.
• 56:54
  But it's really hard to predict without knowing what quarterback is going to start.
• 56:58
  It's going to be a lot easier.
• 56:59
  But that's tough, though, too, just because of like regardless of like it's such a different
• 57:03
  offense with who's that quarterback.
• 57:05
  Yeah.
• 57:06
  But the other way, though, is if if love is and then they run a little longer, deeper
• 57:10
  routes, does that play more into the Vikings defense is they have to pass protect for longer
• 57:16
  against a very confusing scheme style of defense.
• 57:20
  So I'm going I'm going vikes for sure on this game, but it's going to be it's going to be
• 57:25
  a barn burner.
• 57:26
  So I'm excited.
• 57:27
  It's going to be fun.
• 57:28
  According to KLC, whatever this means to you, he is optimistic that Addison will play on
• 57:33
  Sunday.
• 57:34
  Play a little head games.
• 57:35
  I mean, Packers are doing that with love.
• 57:36
  We can do it back now.
• 57:38
  Absolutely.
• 57:39
  Yeah.
• 57:40
  Mike, what we got?
• 57:41
  Yeah, I mean, this is definitely in contention for Game of the Week this week.
• 57:44
  I think this and Bill's Ravens are probably what I'm most excited for.
• 57:49
  I think it does come down to who plays quarterback for the Packers.
• 57:52
  I think if Malik starts the Vikings win, if love starts, I think the Packers win.
• 57:57
  I think love will start.
• 57:58
  So I'm going to go with Packers.
• 57:59
  Oh, I don't think that's correct.
• 58:02
  Mike will not be back next week.
• 58:05
  No new unscheduled guests will be here.
• 58:08
  New guest.
• 58:09
  Yeah, I got to go Vikes.
• 58:13
  But I mean, it's I agree it's going to be tough.
• 58:16
  I like what you were starting to say earlier with Jordan Love in the game.
• 58:20
  If Jordan Love plays, Flores is sending the pressure.
• 58:22
  He's going to test out.
• 58:23
  Oh, what's the injury?
• 58:24
  Is it his knee?
• 58:25
  I can't remember.
• 58:26
  Test out his mobility.
• 58:27
  Yeah.
• 58:28
  Yeah.
• 58:29
  It's an MCO.
• 58:30
  Give him a test, make sure he see how mobile he actually is.
• 58:36
  Adjust from there and then attack that Jordan Love plays.
• 58:39
  So even if Jordan Love plays for me, the only thing they have going for him is Lambeau is
• 58:43
  a tough place to play.
• 58:45
  But yeah, I got I got to go Vikes no matter who's starting at quarterback this week.
• 58:50
  Got one name to say that's my X factor for the Packers in this game, and it's Tucker
• 58:54
  Kraft.
• 58:55
  Tucker Kraft.
• 58:56
  Not just his ability to play that intermediate short passing game.
• 58:59
  But if Flores is bringing that pressure, we're going to have to offset that edge and he's
• 59:03
  going to have to chip and help in the run game.
• 59:05
  Interesting.
• 59:06
  Interesting.
• 59:07
  And I don't know.
• 59:08
  So for his chipping and his his overall pass pro and helping out with that than his overall
• 59:10
  production in terms of stats.
• 59:12
  But Tucker Kraft, Tucker Kraft, Tucker Kraft, X Factor for the Vikes.
• 59:15
  Yeah.
• 59:16
  Is there any injuries for the Packers that any, you know, are, you know, not obviously
• 59:20
  love, but anything else that we, you know, you got alignment or anybody that's, you know,
• 59:25
  questionable or anything like that?
• 59:27
  I guess I didn't look into their injury report.
• 59:29
  So Jordan Morgan, our first round pick this year, went down in the the the week two game
• 59:33
  against the Colts.
• 59:34
  He didn't play.
• 59:35
  I don't believe any snaps last week.
• 59:36
  He might play this week, but he's not a starter anyway.
• 59:38
  I do like him at right guard over Sean Ryan.
• 59:40
  I'm not a fan of him.
• 59:42
  Rashid Walker went down last game.
• 59:44
  Believe he did come back in the game.
• 59:45
  He's a starting left tackle.
• 59:46
  OK.
• 59:47
  But outside of that, no.
• 59:48
  I mean, like pretty clean knock on wood.
• 59:51
  The Packers have been one of the few teams in the NFL along.
• 59:53
  Well, Vikings got Addison, but and hockey, too, like one of the few teams in the NFL
• 59:57
  that are actually like healthy right now.
• 1:00:00
  We don't have any starters.
• 1:00:02
  Larry and other ones.
• 1:00:04
  Other than Jay, the huge one.
• 1:00:05
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:06
  But no, which is wild because the Packers have historically always been hurt.
• 1:00:10
  Like every year we get something.
• 1:00:12
  I don't know what the area was injured for like five years and we don't need to bring
• 1:00:15
  that name.
• 1:00:16
  Five years and you're all getting paid.
• 1:00:17
  Let's just remove that memory from the like I've made fun of the Vikings.
• 1:00:21
  I got some your way.
• 1:00:22
  So you're going Vikings.
• 1:00:23
  Is that what I'm getting out of that?
• 1:00:24
  Absolutely not.
• 1:00:25
  He's changing it.
• 1:00:26
  All right.
• 1:00:27
  All right.
• 1:00:28
  Pittsburgh traveling to Indianapolis.
• 1:00:29
  Mike, I'm glad you take this.
• 1:00:30
  All right.
• 1:00:31
  Absolutely.
• 1:00:32
  I mean, I don't see the Pittsburgh starting the season for now.
• 1:00:38
  It's a home game.
• 1:00:39
  Anthony Richardson knows he played like trash last week.
• 1:00:42
  He's got to he's got to have a game that redeems himself.
• 1:00:46
  And so I think that's this game.
• 1:00:48
  I don't think he's going to throw it 50 times like Caleb Williams did.
• 1:00:52
  I think they're still going to feed Jonathan Taylor and but they're going to mix in and
• 1:00:57
  Anthony Richardson is going to perform.
• 1:00:59
  I see Richardson having two touchdowns, you know, a solid 65 percent completion and getting
• 1:01:05
  it done versus the Steelers.
• 1:01:08
  How many turnovers can they have and still win?
• 1:01:14
  I think they can have they can have one.
• 1:01:17
  One one.
• 1:01:18
  So if they get to two and then if they get to two, then the defense needs.
• 1:01:22
  Like they got to be plus one.
• 1:01:24
  OK, they got to be plus one.
• 1:01:25
  So if we have one, then we got to get two from them.
• 1:01:29
  All right.
• 1:01:30
  All right.
• 1:01:31
  I feel that.
• 1:01:32
  So yeah, I think two would just be too much to overcome for the Colts right now.
• 1:01:34
  Yeah.
• 1:01:35
  I mean, with the way the offense is playing, you know, Michael Pittman hasn't gotten going
• 1:01:40
  beyond a couple of 40 and 50 yard passes, which are great.
• 1:01:45
  You know, nobody has really gotten anything in the receiving game.
• 1:01:49
  So we you know, I'd love to just see 10 catches for 100 yards for Pittman.
• 1:01:54
  Like I have more receptions.
• 1:01:56
  You know, let's just get it out there.
• 1:01:58
  And ten yard curls.
• 1:02:00
  Exactly.
• 1:02:01
  Yep.
• 1:02:02
  It does.
• 1:02:03
  I mean, Anthony Richardson can throw the ball.
• 1:02:04
  And I think that, you know, we do need a couple of those plays every game, but we've got to
• 1:02:09
  have the five to 15 yard completions in there.
• 1:02:12
  For sure.
• 1:02:13
  For sure.
• 1:02:14
  We'll go back the other way then.
• 1:02:15
  So me, I'm taking the Colts all day.
• 1:02:18
  I think.
• 1:02:19
  I don't know.
• 1:02:20
  The Colts at home is just a good feeling for me.
• 1:02:24
  And I also agree.
• 1:02:25
  I don't think the Steelers are going to start the season for now.
• 1:02:27
  They got to come back to earth at some point, which is why I almost took the Packers, but
• 1:02:30
  just can't do it.
• 1:02:31
  My soul can't do it.
• 1:02:32
  That'll work.
• 1:02:33
  You can't pick against your own team.
• 1:02:34
  No, I'm not going to happen.
• 1:02:35
  I want to say no, buddy.
• 1:02:36
  But yeah, no, I think I think the Colts will be able to take it to them.
• 1:02:40
  But I kind of agree with that.
• 1:02:41
  I mean, over over one turnover would be a problem.
• 1:02:44
  It would be a problem for the Colts this week.
• 1:02:47
  Rob.
• 1:02:48
  Yeah, this is a tough one.
• 1:02:49
  I mean, I feel like this is almost like if you flip Chicago and Pittsburgh in this scenario,
• 1:02:54
  it's the same game as last week.
• 1:02:55
  It's going to be tight.
• 1:02:56
  It's going to be close.
• 1:02:58
  I do have Indy sneaking it out in the close game, too.
• 1:03:04
  Another 15-12 game like the Eagles.
• 1:03:05
  Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's going to make me watch that.
• 1:03:08
  I honestly think it's going to be a sloppy, low scoring game is how it's going to be.
• 1:03:13
  Both defense and the Steelers defense does fly all over the field.
• 1:03:17
  So they're going to give the Colts a little bit.
• 1:03:18
  I think the X Factor and his Taylor, I mean, he's having a wonderful year.
• 1:03:23
  And if Richardson doesn't turn over the ball, I mean, even last game, he turned over the
• 1:03:27
  ball and they still won.
• 1:03:28
  So he wants healthy.
• 1:03:29
  Yeah.
• 1:03:30
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:03:31
  Yeah.
• 1:03:32
  He's had a tear.
• 1:03:33
  That's tough.
• 1:03:34
  That's you know, that's their X Factor.
• 1:03:37
  You know, if he gets three, four times, but he is that's what I think the other side is
• 1:03:40
  Richardson is such a big stout quarterback that I feel like he can shut off one or two
• 1:03:45
  of those sacks that typically other quarterbacks don't.
• 1:03:48
  So that might be the difference maker there, too.
• 1:03:50
  I'll give him that.
• 1:03:51
  It has the legs to get out.
• 1:03:52
  Yeah.
• 1:03:53
  He can feel it coming.
• 1:03:54
  Who's getting out a lot, dude?
• 1:03:55
  I know.
• 1:03:56
  That's a great point.
• 1:03:57
  Maybe Nick Herberg on the other side.
• 1:03:59
  I don't know who you're escaping, Mr. T.J.
• 1:04:01
  Who you got?
• 1:04:02
  Who you got?
• 1:04:03
  I'm also going to take the Colts on this one.
• 1:04:05
  I'm with you guys.
• 1:04:06
  Pittsburgh has to come back to earth here.
• 1:04:08
  Colts have a solid defense.
• 1:04:10
  They need to feed Jonathan Taylor.
• 1:04:11
  He needs to get 30 to 35 carries a game right now until Richardson figures out.
• 1:04:14
  That's a lot.
• 1:04:15
  He had 23 last week.
• 1:04:17
  They won the game against the Packers.
• 1:04:19
  If they would have kept feeding Jonathan Taylor, they probably would have squeaked that one
• 1:04:22
  out in the game.
• 1:04:23
  We couldn't stop them.
• 1:04:25
  And you just stopped giving him the ball.
• 1:04:27
  So I didn't understand that.
• 1:04:28
  But you need the Colts need to stop relying on Richardson as much as they are and just
• 1:04:32
  feed Taylor.
• 1:04:34
  And Pittman has to get going.
• 1:04:36
  I'd love to see 12 targets for Pittman, even if it's seven or eight catches.
• 1:04:40
  Give the ball to him.
• 1:04:41
  Throw him.
• 1:04:42
  Give him a chance.
• 1:04:43
  10 to 12 times.
• 1:04:44
  He's got one.
• 1:04:45
  So he's got six targets last game.
• 1:04:46
  You cannot have that out of a wide receiver.
• 1:04:50
  Alec Pierce has been really fun to watch.
• 1:04:54
  I think that's where you can hit this Steelers defense is that big play.
• 1:04:58
  They're prone to that big play because of that.
• 1:05:00
  If they're reliant on that rush, if that rush isn't hitting home and you're giving Richardson
• 1:05:05
  that time, Pierce has got the arm to beat it.
• 1:05:08
  Dude, his arm is silly.
• 1:05:09
  It's crazy.
• 1:05:10
  Who's the matchup going to be on that right tackle versus TJ?
• 1:05:14
  For the Colts?
• 1:05:15
  That I don't know.
• 1:05:16
  I don't even know the tackle over there.
• 1:05:19
  You know the way.
• 1:05:20
  Clueless.
• 1:05:21
  They'll probably be chipping in and running back over there the whole time.
• 1:05:23
  Nelson's the guard over there.
• 1:05:24
  I don't know.
• 1:05:25
  I don't remember who the tackle is.
• 1:05:26
  Nelson's the other guard.
• 1:05:27
  It'll be Braden Smith, who's actually decent right tackle in the league.
• 1:05:31
  Oh yeah.
• 1:05:32
  Oh yeah.
• 1:05:33
  Oh yeah.
• 1:05:34
  I know Braden.
• 1:05:35
  I don't like him.
• 1:05:36
  Sorry, buddy.
• 1:05:37
  Yeah.
• 1:05:38
  I know you're an avid listener.
• 1:05:39
  We apologize.
• 1:05:40
  Come on the show.
• 1:05:41
  Anyway, Chiefs traveling to the LA Chargers.
• 1:05:45
  I'll go ahead and start this one being a Chargers fan and they're going to lose this week.
• 1:05:51
  There's no chance.
• 1:05:54
  You're missing your tackles.
• 1:05:56
  That's so huge.
• 1:05:57
  Justin Herbert's a maybe.
• 1:05:59
  So if he's a game time decision, I'm not playing him.
• 1:06:03
  Missing my two top tackles, I'm not playing Justin Herbert.
• 1:06:05
  I don't care against the Chiefs.
• 1:06:07
  I'm sorry.
• 1:06:08
  Justin Heinecke out there is the one that's slated to start if Herbert can't go.
• 1:06:12
  I think J.K.
• 1:06:13
  Dobbins has had a nice year to start kind of rejuvenating himself, but it's just it's
• 1:06:18
  not going to be enough.
• 1:06:20
  We know the refs are on the Chiefs side.
• 1:06:22
  I'm just kidding.
• 1:06:23
  I'll try to not bring that up.
• 1:06:24
  But yeah, I think the Chiefs are just way too dominant right now, although we've seen
• 1:06:29
  them in some real tight games, but this one will not be.
• 1:06:32
  Keeping it interesting.
• 1:06:33
  Script writer's got it down.
• 1:06:34
  Yeah, you know, here we go.
• 1:06:35
  Here we go.
• 1:06:36
  But this one will not be that as much as it hurts my heart.
• 1:06:39
  Yeah.
• 1:06:40
  Yeah.
• 1:06:41
  I'll just pop in here real quick.
• 1:06:42
  I just I think this doesn't be a blowout, actually.
• 1:06:45
  I mean, I guess losing the tackles, I'm trying to think who the Chief Deans are, but you
• 1:06:50
  got Jones in the middle.
• 1:06:51
  So I guess that's the matchup is not against new tackles most of the time, but sometimes
• 1:06:56
  I'll put Jones on the edge anyways.
• 1:06:59
  So yeah, the Chargers aren't just going to have enough in this game.
• 1:07:03
  I think the Chiefs are going to pick this pretty quick.
• 1:07:06
  Their home field advantage for this week, I feel like does not matter.
• 1:07:09
  Chiefs fans will travel and they're all over the country.
• 1:07:12
  You're playing in L.A. There's no such thing as like either of the Los Angeles teams.
• 1:07:16
  They don't have home like a true home.
• 1:07:18
  You don't have a look.
• 1:07:19
  If you look at the crowd last week, it was 49ers fans.
• 1:07:21
  Yeah, it was red.
• 1:07:22
  It's insane.
• 1:07:23
  Yeah.
• 1:07:24
  I was at that stadium a couple of years ago and it was definitely I mean, it was a Chargers
• 1:07:27
  game, but yeah, there was tons of fans and just random fans.
• 1:07:32
  Yeah, for sure.
• 1:07:34
  Go for it.
• 1:07:35
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:07:36
  I really want to pick the Chargers here.
• 1:07:37
  I am not as high up on the Chiefs right now.
• 1:07:40
  Patrick Mahomes average distance.
• 1:07:42
  He does not play that great.
• 1:07:44
  No, he does not look good.
• 1:07:46
  He does not look like Patrick Mahomes.
• 1:07:47
  Unfortunately, I just don't think the Chargers without their tackles are going to be the
• 1:07:51
  team to take them down right now.
• 1:07:53
  They don't need Patrick Mahomes.
• 1:07:54
  They just need to be competent in any way, shape or form.
• 1:07:57
  So yeah, I'll take the Chiefs.
• 1:07:59
  I think it'll be close.
• 1:08:00
  The Chargers are going to run a lot, but yeah, without your tackles, you're not going to run
• 1:08:03
  them.
• 1:08:04
  Yeah, and Derwin James.
• 1:08:05
  That's exactly what I was going to get at is like this is a game for Travis Kelsey to
• 1:08:10
  show who Travis Kelsey is simply because Derwin James isn't guarding him.
• 1:08:14
  Derwin James has been like the only thing close to kryptonite as there is possible
• 1:08:18
  for Travis Kelsey.
• 1:08:19
  He shattered them every game and it's two times a year.
• 1:08:22
  Chiefs are going to run away with this one.
• 1:08:23
  Derwin James isn't just like his physical presence on the field, but he's the vocal
• 1:08:27
  leader of that defense.
• 1:08:28
  And I mean, I don't care if it's the, you know, Burnsville's high school team's ends
• 1:08:34
  of charge running against him here.
• 1:08:35
  You're not going to protect Herbert.
• 1:08:37
  He's hobbled.
• 1:08:38
  You got George Carl, Carl Aftis, great name.
• 1:08:41
  And then I don't know who the other edge rusher is, but the Chiefs are going to walk through
• 1:08:45
  the Chargers and this one, which sucks because I like the Chargers too.
• 1:08:47
  Yeah.
• 1:08:48
  Yeah.
• 1:08:49
  I think this is the highest spread I think in Vegas.
• 1:08:51
  I would imagine.
• 1:08:52
  I have to.
• 1:08:53
  There was another one that was at seven, but yeah, I'd imagine.
• 1:08:57
  So so far, picks have not been entertaining, but it's about to get interesting.
• 1:09:02
  The Bills traveling to Baltimore.
• 1:09:05
  That's a toughie.
• 1:09:06
  I don't want to start with this one.
• 1:09:07
  I can go first on this one.
• 1:09:08
  Yeah, yeah, I'll jump in.
• 1:09:09
  I haven't gotten first yet.
• 1:09:10
  So you did for Indy, you liar.
• 1:09:11
  Oh, I did.
• 1:09:12
  But we already knew you were going to pick anyway.
• 1:09:13
  So that's not really a surprise pick from the Indy fans.
• 1:09:20
  So I'll man.
• 1:09:22
  Both teams just played out last week.
• 1:09:24
  Josh Allen is having an amazing year.
• 1:09:28
  He's got the most games now ever with 250 yards passing, 40 yards rushing and four passing
• 1:09:35
  touchdowns.
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  So kind of a unique stat.
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  But I mean, he just does everything for that team.
• 1:09:39
  They took away his best receiver and he just said, fine, I'll throw it to everybody else.
• 1:09:43
  So I don't think the Ravens are going to get 255 yards passing or rushing on the Bills
• 1:09:49
  defense this week.
• 1:09:51
  They'll know to contain that and make Jackson beat him through the air.
• 1:09:54
  So I'm going to go with the Bills.
• 1:09:55
  Going with the Bills, OK.
• 1:09:58
  Circle the wagons.
• 1:10:00
  I like it.
• 1:10:01
  That's the Coltson in them right there.
• 1:10:03
  Tyler, Tyler, Tyler, we got Bills at Baltimore.
• 1:10:08
  I'll second Mike on this one.
• 1:10:11
  I think the Bills are going to take this one too.
• 1:10:12
  Josh Allen is playing out of his mind right now.
• 1:10:15
  As crazy as this is to say, I think one of the best things to happen to that Bills offense
• 1:10:19
  is taking Stephon Diggs out of it.
• 1:10:21
  Now Josh Allen locker room.
• 1:10:23
  Not even take that out of the equation.
• 1:10:25
  That's not obvious.
• 1:10:27
  But like taking him off the field and not giving Josh Allen that true number one threat is
• 1:10:30
  forcing him to view the field and just finding the open guy and not just looking at that
• 1:10:34
  Diggs as the first guy.
• 1:10:36
  So I think the Bills offense, James Cook has been he's looked great this year.
• 1:10:41
  Yeah, Josh Allen, what he can do with the pass and the run game.
• 1:10:44
  Their defense is playing solid.
• 1:10:46
  The Ravens, I mean, like you said, it's a very, very like like questionable one and two they're
• 1:10:50
  at right now.
• 1:10:51
  But at the end of the day, they're one and two and they lost to the Raiders who just
• 1:10:54
  lost to the Panthers.
• 1:10:55
  So they didn't look good.
• 1:10:57
  Yeah.
• 1:10:58
  Well, when you put it like that.
• 1:11:00
  Right.
• 1:11:01
  Right.
• 1:11:02
  Easy win.
• 1:11:03
  With Ravens at home and Vaughn Miller looks a little bit more back to form.
• 1:11:07
  This Bills team is humming right now.
• 1:11:08
  So I can't go against until I see that prototypical Josh Allen, two touchdown, three turnover
• 1:11:13
  game.
• 1:11:14
  I'm sticking with him.
• 1:11:15
  It's going to happen.
• 1:11:16
  That is funny.
• 1:11:17
  That's funny that you mentioned.
• 1:11:18
  He'll 100 percent will.
• 1:11:19
  All right, Tyler, Tyler, tell him how that's going to happen.
• 1:11:22
  Yeah, I know.
• 1:11:23
  It's funny you mention it because the Bills will lose their next two games straight up.
• 1:11:27
  Distinctly possible.
• 1:11:28
  They played they play the Ravens and then they go to Houston, I believe.
• 1:11:32
  Do they travel to Houston?
• 1:11:33
  Yes, they do.
• 1:11:34
  They play the next three.
• 1:11:35
  Their next three games are away.
• 1:11:37
  Baltimore, Houston and the Jets.
• 1:11:39
  So I think they lose not only this game, but also to Houston.
• 1:11:42
  And then they think they go on an absolute tear and snap out of it.
• 1:11:46
  I know that's I know that's ridiculously out of pocket considering how well they played
• 1:11:50
  this season.
• 1:11:51
  I just I think they're going to struggle.
• 1:11:54
  I think this is where we see Lamar just go off on the ground with his legs.
• 1:11:57
  I think they're going to struggle to contain Lamar.
• 1:12:00
  And it's just going to be tough.
• 1:12:02
  We might see a return.
• 1:12:04
  Mark Andrews healthy.
• 1:12:05
  He is.
• 1:12:06
  I think this is a game where we finally see him.
• 1:12:08
  I think Isaiah is just too damn good to put him on the.
• 1:12:11
  Absolutely.
• 1:12:12
  Isaiah has got to be their new number one.
• 1:12:13
  Oh, they're running two tight ends all the time.
• 1:12:14
  Yeah, he's definitely a definition of tall personnel.
• 1:12:18
  So they're both on the field.
• 1:12:19
  But yeah, for me, it's it's it's Ravens this week.
• 1:12:21
  I don't know.
• 1:12:22
  It's I don't know.
• 1:12:24
  I just feel like the Bills are going to lose their next two games.
• 1:12:27
  They just kind of go up and down as the season goes.
• 1:12:29
  But I think they're going to get really hot and they're going to be a favorite come playoff
• 1:12:32
  time.
• 1:12:33
  I hear you.
• 1:12:34
  Well, you know what?
• 1:12:35
  I'm also feeling you.
• 1:12:36
  I got Ravens, too.
• 1:12:37
  Yeah, buddy.
• 1:12:38
  Yeah, I'm thinking Lamar.
• 1:12:40
  I think the mojo back is the Ravens right now.
• 1:12:43
  Went into Dallas and then there was a video of them on the airplane and Lamar is not having
• 1:12:48
  any of this.
• 1:12:49
  He goes, this is not for fun anymore.
• 1:12:51
  This is business trips.
• 1:12:52
  So I think they're going to be a different mindset this week.
• 1:12:56
  I think I think, you know, I think that once they lost to the Raiders, it was the wakeup
• 1:13:02
  call for them.
• 1:13:03
  And they went to Dallas and just crushed them in the first half.
• 1:13:07
  And so home game, I feel like Ravens and like you're saying, Lamar's going to be tough to
• 1:13:12
  handle.
• 1:13:13
  And I can see Andrew's.
• 1:13:14
  Well, I don't mean either way.
• 1:13:16
  I think it's just going to be a big game for them.
• 1:13:19
  And I think defensively, they have enough talent to give Josh Allen some fits.
• 1:13:25
  So I'm going Ravens.
• 1:13:26
  Interesting.
• 1:13:27
  We got a split on that one.
• 1:13:28
  We got a split on that one.
• 1:13:30
  Going into our final game this week, Seattle traveling to Detroit.
• 1:13:37
  Seattle a surprise three and oh at that.
• 1:13:39
  So one, two, three, four.
• 1:13:42
  We have all the undefeated teams almost.
• 1:13:44
  Yeah, yeah, pretty much Detroit two and one at home.
• 1:13:49
  Let's start with a non NFC.
• 1:13:51
  No, no, we already got to serve Rob.
• 1:13:54
  Rob, we got Seattle in Detroit.
• 1:13:56
  I'm going to Detroit on this one.
• 1:13:59
  I think that they're an established sort of the run and give, you know, some some fits
• 1:14:04
  that defensively hutch, I think is going to bother Smith most of the day.
• 1:14:10
  So and Walker still out up there, I think.
• 1:14:14
  I hope not, man.
• 1:14:15
  Another guy in the face.
• 1:14:16
  Yeah.
• 1:14:17
  Sharbonne's been Sharbonne's been crushing.
• 1:14:18
  I don't know if Walker gets first team reps.
• 1:14:23
  I true.
• 1:14:24
  But against that deep, the defense of Detroit and well, I don't know if I fully trust the
• 1:14:31
  Hawks three and I'll start right now as a wild.
• 1:14:35
  So we got a lot of wild going on right now.
• 1:14:37
  But Detroit is still I still top few, you know, top three team in the NFC.
• 1:14:43
  I still, you know, I believe still.
• 1:14:45
  So I still have them going to the NFC championship game.
• 1:14:50
  So I think they're pulling off a dub here.
• 1:14:52
  Pulling off a dub for Rob.
• 1:14:55
  All right, Mike, why don't we just go down the line?
• 1:14:58
  Mike, what you got?
• 1:14:59
  Seattle in Detroit.
• 1:15:00
  Yeah, I picked up that Sharbonne.
• 1:15:02
  He's been crushing it the last couple of weeks.
• 1:15:04
  I think they are going to try to establish the run against this Detroit defense.
• 1:15:09
  Geno Smith, the top five quarterback by EPA this year.
• 1:15:14
  And so I think their their offense is just going to set the tone for the game.
• 1:15:19
  Defense will come up with a turnover.
• 1:15:21
  And I'd consider it an upset, even though Seattle's three and oh, I think Seattle upsets
• 1:15:26
  the Lions.
• 1:15:27
  Yeah.
• 1:15:28
  What is the line on it?
• 1:15:29
  The Lions by four and a half.
• 1:15:30
  So it would be an upset.
• 1:15:31
  Yep.
• 1:15:32
  Yep.
• 1:15:33
  Tyler, who we got?
• 1:15:34
  I think the home team wins this game.
• 1:15:38
  I'm not sold on either team.
• 1:15:40
  Seattle, they're very I think Seattle is a huge fraud, to be 100 percent honest with
• 1:15:43
  you.
• 1:15:44
  I'm not sold on them at all.
• 1:15:45
  I mean, they beat the Broncos, the Patriots and the very banged up Dolphins without the
• 1:15:49
  shorting quarterback.
• 1:15:50
  Right.
• 1:15:51
  That's not that's not a three and oh, that encourages me.
• 1:15:53
  They beat the Broncos by six, the Patriots by three.
• 1:15:55
  They want the Dolphins.
• 1:15:56
  But again, you're running against Skylar Thompson.
• 1:15:58
  Yeah.
• 1:15:59
  So I think the Lions I'm not sold on the Lions this year.
• 1:16:01
  Their offense hasn't looked like what I expected it to be after last year.
• 1:16:04
  And then you incorporate Gibbs more into that defense has made some steps, but I just I'm
• 1:16:09
  not sold on the Lions.
• 1:16:10
  And I think this comes down to the home team in the home field advantage, to be honest
• 1:16:13
  with you.
• 1:16:14
  So I got the Lions with winning this one.
• 1:16:16
  And I think it's going to be a close game.
• 1:16:18
  The Roar has been restored.
• 1:16:19
  Roar has been restored.
• 1:16:20
  I agree with you.
• 1:16:21
  I think Aiden Hutchinson is going to be an absolute beast, especially in front of the
• 1:16:26
  home crowd.
• 1:16:27
  I mean, he's just going to eat that up.
• 1:16:28
  Yep.
• 1:16:29
  But I'm very confident in my other picks.
• 1:16:34
  So I'm going to take a shot.
• 1:16:38
  And Seattle keeps surprising and ends up 4-0 out of the prime time game.
• 1:16:46
  I think Geno is going to have himself a game.
• 1:16:48
  Now watch, he'll go 10 for 20 for like 100.
• 1:16:51
  But.
• 1:16:52
  And still win the game.
• 1:16:53
  And still win the game.
• 1:16:54
  And as long as they're all the DK, I'm good.
• 1:16:57
  Yeah.
• 1:16:58
  I think you're right, even though Seattle is 3-0, even Detroit is probably viewing them
• 1:17:04
  as an underdog.
• 1:17:06
  And I feel like Detroit is pretty confident coming into this game right now as far as
• 1:17:10
  who they've got to face.
• 1:17:11
  I just, I don't know.
• 1:17:13
  Some seems off there for Detroit to me.
• 1:17:15
  I'm also not sold on Detroit this season as a whole.
• 1:17:18
  I do think they're a better team than Seattle, but I think Seattle just squeaks another one
• 1:17:22
  out.
• 1:17:23
  I do think it's going to be close.
• 1:17:24
  Just a fluky Rams vs. 49ers last week.
• 1:17:27
  I don't think it'll be that crazy.
• 1:17:28
  But yeah, another little fluky win.
• 1:17:30
  Yeah.
• 1:17:31
  Yep.
• 1:17:32
  But yeah, crazy.
• 1:17:33
  Yeah, that wraps up our week four game slate.
• 1:17:39
  Mike, thanks for joining us, buddy.
• 1:17:41
  Absolutely.
• 1:17:42
  It's been a pleasure.
• 1:17:43
  Yeah.
• 1:17:44
  Here next week.
• 1:17:45
  If I'm still invited.
• 1:17:46
  Yeah.
• 1:17:47
  To be seen.
• 1:17:48
  Did he pick the Packers or the Vikings?
• 1:17:51
  Yeah, he picked the Packers.
• 1:17:54
  He's out of here.
• 1:17:55
  TBD, we'll figure it out.
• 1:17:56
  We'll figure it out.
• 1:17:57
  We'll figure it out.
• 1:17:58
  We'll figure it out.
• 1:17:59
  Picked the Packers, made a comment about the Vikings.
• 1:18:00
  We'll see if I.
• 1:18:01
  Yeah, you're going to hear that comment in your nightmares.
• 1:18:04
  No, I like it.
• 1:18:06
  No, no, seriously.
• 1:18:07
  Thanks for joining us.
• 1:18:08
  It was great to get another team, another perspective of a different team, whatever I'm
• 1:18:12
  trying to say.
• 1:18:13
  Yeah.
• 1:18:14
  Of other than just the Vikes, the Pack.
• 1:18:17
  We're going to have a Broncos fan on later this season.
• 1:18:18
  We got a lot of things lined up, but I really appreciate you being here this week.
• 1:18:22
  And next week.
• 1:18:23
  It's OK.
• 1:18:24
  You can come next week.
• 1:18:25
  I'm excited.
• 1:18:26
  All right.
• 1:18:27
  Vikings Colts is November 1st, 2nd, whatever that's.
• 1:18:30
  We might have to have you on for that.
• 1:18:33
  All right.
• 1:18:34
  Yeah.
• 1:18:35
  I don't think you'll have anything good to say by that.
• 1:18:36
  Yeah.
• 1:18:37
  You guys need to win some games to make sure.
• 1:18:38
  You might need to make the list.
• 1:18:39
  Boy, we're talking like we are going to the Super Bowl.
• 1:18:42
  Yeah.
• 1:18:43
  And we need to be.
• 1:18:44
  Do you guys know what that's like?
• 1:18:45
  Whoa.
• 1:18:46
  Going to the Super Bowl.
• 1:18:47
  Yeah, another singer.
• 1:18:48
  Yeah, going to the Super Bowl, we know all about that.
• 1:18:51
  I mean, it's been in Minneapolis twice.
• 1:18:53
  Yeah, I was down there, raw walking around the stadium.
• 1:18:56
  Oh, man.
• 1:18:57
  And then, of course, thanks for joining us this week, Tyler.
• 1:19:00
  I'm super happy we got to have you on.
• 1:19:02
  Another Packer fan, two weeks in a row, giving us that perspective from the team on the other
• 1:19:07
  side of the border there.
• 1:19:09
  But it was good to be back.
• 1:19:10
  Yeah.
• 1:19:11
  It was good to be back.
• 1:19:12
  Yeah.
• 1:19:13
  We got to have you back more.
• 1:19:14
  Yeah.
• 1:19:15
  We'll work on it.
• 1:19:16
  You feel natural behind the mic again.
• 1:19:17
  We got to have you back.
• 1:19:18
  But you better with the boys, give me some daycare.
• 1:19:19
  You got a deal.
• 1:19:20
  Sounds good.
• 1:19:21
  We need your sponsorships.
• 1:19:22
  We need to get Tyler Daycare so he can be on Banner with the Boys.
• 1:19:25
  But anyway, of course, like always, like, comment, subscribe wherever you listen to the banner,
• 1:19:30
  whether that's YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts.
• 1:19:33
  And we'll see you for week five.