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Guardians top Tigers, Mets control destiny, Yankees & Mariners clinch, Nats hire Toboni as POBO · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: That was highly entertaining content last night. There are a
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  Speaker 1: lot of playoff games that was good, and it started
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  Speaker 1: at six forty Eastern time and really went pretty deep
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  Speaker 1: into the night with some of the West Coast games.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously the earlier games were more important for who's getting
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  Speaker 1: in and who's not. But we had some clinters, so
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be good. That was fun. I mean, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get five more nights of this until the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: We don't get this off.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, Detroit and the Guardians, yeah, they're really in the
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  Speaker 2: thick of it, and Seattle's won the West, congratulations of them.
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  Speaker 2: Houston might not get in at all, which would be amazing,
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  Speaker 2: which I don't think anybody thought was a possibility going
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  Speaker 2: into this. The Dodgers and the Padres are still alive
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  Speaker 2: somehow in that division because the Dodgers' bullpen is not
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  Speaker 2: good right now, especially the very very back end of it,
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  Speaker 2: but trying in a struggle to Tanner Scott's struggle. The
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  Speaker 2: Blue Jays haven't won the East yet and the Yankees
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  Speaker 2: are right there, so there's a lot of drama still
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  Speaker 2: to be decided. But the biggest thing to me is
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  Speaker 2: the fact that the Astros might not get in at all,
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  Speaker 2: which is just insanity to me.
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  Speaker 1: They basically have had a hold on the division for
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  Speaker 1: a decade. Now, are we good to start with Guardians
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  Speaker 1: and Tigers? That one felt like a legit playoff game.
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  Speaker 2: This is a playoff game. They're fighting for their playoff lives.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, all right, so let's do that. Let's charge
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  Speaker 1: the mound. It's presented by the Alerts. Charge lidds and
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk more about lids coming up. Guardians win. They
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  Speaker 1: beat Tyrek Scougbel last three starts for Schooble, all losses
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  Speaker 1: for the Tigers. This game had a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: everything and it all kind of fell apart for them quickly.
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  Speaker 1: Tigers looked like they were in control of this one.
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  Speaker 1: Guardians went at five to two, and they've beaten the
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  Speaker 1: Tigers in four straight. The losing skid for Detroit is
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  Speaker 1: seven in a row. And we can get into some
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  Speaker 1: intricacies here, but I do want to point this out
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  Speaker 1: as well. Aj They struck out nineteen times. Nineteen times,
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  Speaker 1: and there were a few questionable calls for both sides.
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  Speaker 1: Umps definitely had some terrible performances yesterday, and whoever was
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  Speaker 1: in control of home plate yesterday and that game was bad.
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  Speaker 1: But nineteen strikeouts for the Tigers' bats, You're not going
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  Speaker 1: to win many games like that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh No, Williams was awesome for them. For the For
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  Speaker 2: the Guardians, twelve punchouts and six innings only to continue
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  Speaker 2: their streak of two hurned runs or less. Their bullpen
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  Speaker 2: came in and did what it did with Sebrowski we
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  Speaker 2: had on the show in spring training, Hunter Gaddison, then
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  Speaker 2: Kate Smith, But I mean Schoobol was in control of
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  Speaker 2: this game, and still the Guardians started playing small ball,
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  Speaker 2: which is why I still think bunts are effective. I
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  Speaker 2: think bunts and big situations are effective, especially if you
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  Speaker 2: have dudes with speed and pressure on the other team.
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  Speaker 2: Because Stephen Kuan leads off of the infield sing ininfield
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  Speaker 2: bun hit, you're like a no big deal, And the
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  Speaker 2: next thing you know, they bunt again. Schoobol tries to
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  Speaker 2: hike it to first, it goes away. Then then Josey
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  Speaker 2: Ramirez hits a seven Hubbard to the third baseman they
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  Speaker 2: can't get any outs on, then a back a wild pitch,
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  Speaker 2: and then prayers for David Fry, Please prayer I know,
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  Speaker 2: I think he's okay, but that was one of the
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  Speaker 2: worst things I've ever seen when he took a fastball
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  Speaker 2: right to the face. I know it hit the bat,
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  Speaker 2: but still so prayers to David Fry. You saw School's reaction.
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  Speaker 2: Next pitch, wild pitch to score a run. I mean
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  Speaker 2: this was this. They scored three runs and didn't hit
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  Speaker 2: a ball. They got to the Dirk of the infield,
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  Speaker 2: which is crazy. So I mean kudos to the Guardians
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  Speaker 2: and Gavin Williams, but Man Scooba was in control of
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  Speaker 2: this game until small ball kicked in. So I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why more teams don't do it.
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  Speaker 3: This is why people don't do small ball, because had
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  Speaker 3: the Tigers just gotten me out taking the out that
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  Speaker 3: they were giving him, and not tried to hike the ball,
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  Speaker 3: not got unlucky with a ninety nine mile hour fastball
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  Speaker 3: that hit off of Hosey's knuckles, not flinched on the ball.
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  Speaker 3: That's why organization teams are like, I can't rely on bunting.
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  Speaker 3: We got to rely on the home run. You have
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  Speaker 3: to have some type of blend. And I disagree with
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  Speaker 3: what Scott said. They said, Oh, the Guardians took the game.
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  Speaker 3: I think the Tigers gave them the game. If these
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  Speaker 3: are the two teams that are playing in the playoffs,
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  Speaker 3: You're like, are we going.
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  Speaker 2: To see any hits? Like there just wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: Riley had had the home run, winzel Perez had the double.
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  Speaker 3: Seemed like they were in control of the game. But
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  Speaker 3: it just was kind of a hitting game. And Gavin Williams, shoot,
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  Speaker 3: he just listened to AJ and was like, Oh, I'll
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  Speaker 3: just throw this curveball. They can't hit it. And they
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  Speaker 3: never made the adjustment. They would take the balls and swing.
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  Speaker 3: I mean they would take the strikes and swing at
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  Speaker 3: the balls. It was a bad recipe for the for
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  Speaker 3: the Tigers hitters.
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  Speaker 1: Top four bases loaded, one out.
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  Speaker 2: There was a lot of situation. Three two County drops
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  Speaker 2: a curveball in also, let's not forget it, and that's situation.
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  Speaker 2: Then he got the next guy to swing at a
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  Speaker 2: ball in this in this trag zone. I mean, Austin
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  Speaker 2: Hedges did an unbelievable job getting Gavin Williams through this game.
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  Speaker 2: He deserves a lot of credit. Scooba was in control
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  Speaker 2: of this game until they started bunning. That's why I
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  Speaker 2: think bunning should be a part of something. I've seen
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  Speaker 2: it happen too many times. It's not that you just
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  Speaker 2: especially if you have a bunch of fast guys like
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  Speaker 2: the Guardians, Kwan and who was I forget who hits
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  Speaker 2: the second for him? The center fielder, Jeez went hold on,
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  Speaker 2: I went blank on his name Martinez?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I know, yeah?
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  Speaker 2: And how Martinez bunted then, right, I mean, Kawan hit
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  Speaker 2: a perfect bunt to start it off. You're like scool,
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  Speaker 2: be like, ah, okay, we're up to nothing, no big deal.
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  Speaker 2: Then Martinez bunts the ball to first and that's when
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  Speaker 2: Scoobal panic and but and you know, threw it over
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  Speaker 2: the head and that's when that's when all heck broke
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  Speaker 2: Loues after that for the for the Guardians. So small
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  Speaker 2: ball still can win you games. If you can't hit homers,
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  Speaker 2: you got to try small ball. And teams aren't used
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  Speaker 2: to defending it. That's why I think the Brewers are
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  Speaker 2: so successful, because teams aren't used to defending this little stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But they're tied now in the standings and Cleveland has
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  Speaker 2: the tiebreaker. The biggest thing for Cleveland, they got to
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  Speaker 2: win one of the next two. If they win one
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  Speaker 2: of the next two. They're in great shape. They control
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  Speaker 2: their own destiny going into the last three games.
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  Speaker 1: Because they'd essentially be two games up. If they win
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  Speaker 1: one of the next two games, they would have a
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  Speaker 1: one game lead. That is really a two game lead.
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  Speaker 2: They're tied. They're tired right now. So if they win
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  Speaker 2: one of the next two, they split.
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  Speaker 1: All right, they the next two, that's over right, right right.
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  Speaker 2: You can cancel it. They're split. They're tied, but Cleveland
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  Speaker 2: has the tiebreaker, so if they split, if they split
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  Speaker 2: the next two, Cleveland controls their own.
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  Speaker 1: Destiny right now with three games left, and Detroit's.
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  Speaker 2: Got to go to Boston. Yes, and Cleveland has Texas,
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  Speaker 2: who Bruce Bochi said, basically quit last night.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're throwing out I think some of their better starters.
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  Speaker 1: But whatever, I mean, Well.
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  Speaker 2: Thems pitching tonight, so they ain't gonna see him.
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  Speaker 1: Well, couldn't he pitch.
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  Speaker 1: thing on this game, So Cody Stavenhagen brought this up.
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  Speaker 1: He said there were two outs when AJ Hinch brought
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  Speaker 1: in Kyle Finnegan to face Stephen Kuan. Right against lefty.
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  Speaker 1: Kwan has a seven to seventy four ops against right
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  Speaker 1: handed pitching, only five ninety against left handed pitching. Cody said,
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  Speaker 1: Hinch went with his best arm in the moment, but
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  Speaker 1: for a manager who has obsessed over matchups, it's one
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  Speaker 1: of the oddest decisions in his Tiger's tenure. Do you
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  Speaker 1: guys agree, No, No, splitter.
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  Speaker 3: Kwan's numbers against the splitter aren't very good. So you're
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  Speaker 3: getting a guy that you have to get him to
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  Speaker 3: put the ball in play. And I think I didn't
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  Speaker 3: disagree with that. Righty lefty doesn't always apply. Some guys
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  Speaker 3: have better splits. But some guy, who is he gonna
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  Speaker 3: who is he gonna go to?
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  Speaker 2: Down there?
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  Speaker 3: To me, I thought I thought Finnegan was the guy.
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  Speaker 3: He knew his season, not the season on the line,
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  Speaker 3: but the game was on the line, had to stay
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  Speaker 3: exactly where it was. I like going to Finnegan, not
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  Speaker 3: just the robot.
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  Speaker 2: We need a left date. We need somebody different.
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  Speaker 3: You want to you want to go out there and
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  Speaker 3: win the or win or lose the game with your
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  Speaker 3: best pitchers on the mountain. He went to He went
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  Speaker 3: to Tommy Kayley right out of the gate in uh
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  Speaker 3: whatever that was six or seventh inning when Scooba came out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Kayley hasn't had a good year this year.
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  Speaker 2: Let's let's also not Kayley is not like Kayley's lights out.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is they don't have anybody down there. We
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  Speaker 2: went through it yesterday. Kenny's got a four and a half. Yarady.
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  Speaker 2: He went to Finnigan to try to clean up Kinley's
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  Speaker 2: mess right from from the hit in the walk and
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  Speaker 2: then so he's like, oh boy, here we go. And
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  Speaker 2: he went to his best guy, he's been his best
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  Speaker 2: guy to try to hold it at three to two,
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  Speaker 2: hoping against hope that they wuldn't score. And then they
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  Speaker 2: once they put those two, once they have five to
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  Speaker 2: the game was over. I mean it was it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was just over. I mean, what's he supposed to do?
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  Speaker 2: He went to Finigan to try to save the game.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he did. I think it was the right
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  Speaker 2: Who else is he gonna go to We went to
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  Speaker 2: their bullpen yesterday. Who's he gonna go to it ain't
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  Speaker 2: it ain't like they have tons of strikeout dudes down there. No,
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  Speaker 2: Kwan's more likely gonna put the ball in play. He
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  Speaker 2: went to the guy thought gave him the best chance.
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  Speaker 1: It is not a swinging miss bullpen. We knew that.
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  Speaker 1: They knew that trade deadline. They said, just bring in everyone.
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  Speaker 2: But then look at Cleveland. So gall Williams struck out
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  Speaker 2: twelve and six innings. They go to Sebrowski to two
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  Speaker 2: punches away. He's nasty, he's filthy. Hunter Gaddis three punches
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  Speaker 2: one inning, and then Kate Smith two punchies one inning.
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  Speaker 2: That will go to the Cainley did strike out.
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  Speaker 1: Too, right, Yeah, he walked the nine hitter, he did.
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  Speaker 2: And then Finnigan zero strikeouts, Herder zero strikeouts, Montero zero strikeouts.
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  Speaker 1: To me, there's your difference. There's a very extreme different.
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  Speaker 1: It's between what Cleveland's throwing out there in the late
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  Speaker 1: innings and what the Tigers are putting out there in
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  Speaker 1: the late innings, right, I mean, that's the clear cut difference.
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  Speaker 1: Right now. Does Detroit have a better offense, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: would say, so, right, there's better offense, Cleveland, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: might make the playoffs with one of the lowest ranks
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  Speaker 1: offenses is we've seen in the sport in a while.
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  Speaker 1: But I would say the starting pitching is a wash
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  Speaker 1: maybe with those two because Schooglett Cleveland right now.
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  Speaker 2: Struggling, I mean, yeah, really good. The second half Harker
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  Speaker 2: Messick's been unbelievable. So I would right now, I think
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  Speaker 2: you would have to take the Guardians pitching as a whole.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, and they're they're playing better Dre. There's better even
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  Speaker 1: at bats, even though the offense might not be as potent.
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  Speaker 1: So this is the first time the Tigers are not
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  Speaker 1: leading the American League Central since April. And the Guardians
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  Speaker 1: were fifteen and a half games back on July eighth,
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  Speaker 1: twelve and a half games by on August twenty fifth.
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  Speaker 1: They were nine and a half games back on September tenth,
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  Speaker 1: two weeks ago, nine and a half games back, and
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  Speaker 1: here they are.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, they're sixteen to two in their last eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're on fire, Tigers having won in a long time. Schooble,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, is scheduled to start Sunday, they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: probably need them to start on Sunday, and that messes.
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  Speaker 2: Them up and then screws them if they do, you
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  Speaker 2: get into the post. These two team's gonna have to
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  Speaker 2: play again in the first round, by the way, if
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  Speaker 2: things stay where they're at. So the Guardians are like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: please pitch Schooble. The question is is if do the
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  Speaker 2: do the Tigers if it gets to Sunday, do they
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  Speaker 2: just say, you know what, Scoobs, You're pitching Tuesday in
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  Speaker 2: Cleveland will be the will be the wild card? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: To do that? Do you can see that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're gonna be a wildcard team regardless.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say they're tied going to the last day and
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  Speaker 2: Cleveland has the tiebreaker. Every game starts at the same time.
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  Speaker 2: Do you make a decision if you're a J. Hinch
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  Speaker 2: and say, we're gonna give it up so we have
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  Speaker 2: our best guy going game one, Because there's no guarantee
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  Speaker 2: if you win and the Guardians win, you don't get
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  Speaker 2: you don't still don't get the division.
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  Speaker 1: So you're saying they're already in right, and this is
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  Speaker 1: a fight for the division, which is essentially a fight
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  Speaker 1: for home fields in the wildcard. I'm I'm saving Schooble,
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  Speaker 1: what about you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna save them, probably gonna. I'm probably gonna
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  Speaker 2: concede and say, you know what, I gotta fight a
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  Speaker 2: bigger fight in two days.
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  Speaker 1: Most scenarios I might do differently, but they're so Scoobale relying.
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  Speaker 1: I know they've lost last three with him, but Kratz
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  Speaker 1: I would save them.
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  Speaker 3: What about you, I'd save them. You have to figure
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  Speaker 3: out how to win once you're in. Doesn't matter if
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  Speaker 3: you're the home or away team, you know, the hosting
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  Speaker 3: team or not. You gotta win eleven games. I think
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: that's eleven now three. No, you gotta win thirteen games
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  Speaker 3: from the wildcard. That's it, and one of them you can't.
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  Speaker 3: You can't win third team without Scooball going as many
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  Speaker 3: times as possible. Look how far they got last year
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  Speaker 3: was scob.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you save them, you need them for that
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  Speaker 1: time period, and.
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  Speaker 2: They have the tiebreaker, but they might need to win
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  Speaker 2: at Astros. Yes, the Tigers have the type.
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  Speaker 1: Astros are screwed on tiebreakers.
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  Speaker 2: The Astros are two behind the Tigers right now, even
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  Speaker 2: though they're only one because the tiebreaker so tough, tough
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  Speaker 2: sleding for the Astros right now, especially after the way
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: they're swinging the bat us four games. It went out
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  Speaker 2: to Sacramento and it did not look good last night.
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  Speaker 1: That was a pitiful no. I mean it's hard. I'm
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: like slicing and dicing with games. I did watch a
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  Speaker 1: good chunk of the game. Man, you watch, you watch
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  Speaker 1: like Detroit and Cleveland, because Cleveland got a ton of
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: walk ups until they had thirty something thousand people, there
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  Speaker 1: was a good vibe. And then you watch the game
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  Speaker 1: in Sacramento and you hear every conversation going on on
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  Speaker 1: the broadcast, and I mean, it feels like you went
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: from a major league game to a minor league game.
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  Speaker 1: You see the guys running out to left field, the
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  Speaker 1: whole bench to go take some swings. It's it's pathetic.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't want to overlook that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Christian Walker wanted no part to do with a
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  Speaker 3: Brent Rooker pop up. Nothing, And Correa is running in
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  Speaker 3: and Hobbyer is looking around like nobody's gonna get it.
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  Speaker 3: I guess I'll do what pitchers can't do and try
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: to catch us pop up. And it was like, I
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: mean it looked like high school pop up practice, like
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  Speaker 3: went went be over as glovy, like I reached for it,
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  Speaker 3: missed it. Not good, They're not they're not looking good.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: You know, they're not scoring in Sacramento where you can
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: definitely pour it on.
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  Speaker 2: Where you know you should get hot.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get to listen.
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  Speaker 2: The thing about Sacramento is people have said it's not
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: a fun place to play, and my way Sacramento or Oakland, Sacramento,
• 15:51
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• 15:54
  Speaker 1: Saying oh for wins. Yes, that was a big one,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: a huge that was your five star. We all believed
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: it one and a half. We believed in you before
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: this one and a half. Okay, we believe I just
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: want to clarify. We believed in you before the season.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Then they lost like twenty in a row and we
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: didn't believe in you, and then we jumped back back.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Stay in the course with the Mets, and Mets did
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: last night.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was bold. We were on with Mendy and
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: he was just like, Mendy, you're in, don't worry about it.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: And he's like, okay, in no, you're in. Last night
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: we're going to spend a nice little second.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Red's loss too, and they got a schemes.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Today Skin's green. But yes, it's still it is not
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: very interesting.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: It's not like we last time Hunter Green pitched. I
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: was there, he threw a cg out of no hit
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: or gave up one hit and they won one to
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: nothing like this. Reds offenses is potent.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Now their offense is trash, which we're going to get to.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: But let's wrap up this segment because then we'll get
• 16:51
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• 16:54
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• 16:56
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• 18:06
  Speaker 1: MVP chants for Aaron Judge from his teammates as they
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: celebrate clinching a postseason spot. And I'm sure there are
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: some Mariners fans that are bitter about it, but anyway,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: congrats to the Yankees for clinching a postseason spot. They
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: certainly went through some ups and downs. The fan base
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: has been enraged at times this year.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they listen, they played. They didn't play great last night.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: The White Sox helped them immensely in that game. There
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: was a fly ball that Judge and Grisham dropped and
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: calls to Montgomery hit a home run to give it
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: the White Sox will lead. And that was one of
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: the most White Sox ways ever to lose a game
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: by the way wild pitch or two two outs, and
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: then Michael A. Taylor's getting killed for not diving. Why
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: do you not dive for them? You're not the one
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Aaron judge out two outs on that ball. You gotta
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: give it everything you got to try to get, don't.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I heard the catch probability, it was like fifteen percent.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: What was better than if you at least try then
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: if you just let it drop and try to throw
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: the guy out, it's zero if you.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Don't try to catch it, right, I mean, you know what,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: The throwout probability was zero, So I'd take the fifteen
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: for sure, and he like stutter step to try to
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: get there. Hey, he's a good center fielder. No nothing
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: against him, just in that moment. It was kind of
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: looked like he should have done.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: In that kind of moment. Don't you dive even if
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: it's not because it's it doesn't matter.
• 19:24
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• 19:27
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• 19:31
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  Speaker 1: talk Blue Jays. We mentioned it to Ken, but Tan
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Tander gets activated ty frant held with oblique inflammation and
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Alec Manoah is dfaded. Ross Atkins, who runs the front
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: office along with Mark Shapiro, said it came down to
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: a roster crunch and depth that they chose others over him.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. I mean they give up. They just
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: said we're done, We're not trying this anymore. We were
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: looking at numbers and triple A were okay, Yeah.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: He hasn't pitched effectively at the big leagues for how long?
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Two years now plus three years.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Almost twenty twenty three, twenty twenty two is really good,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: and then twenty twenty three.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: He started getting hurt. Struggle number. So I mean, this
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: is like, yeah, it sucks for a Minoa. He's he
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: seems like a really good guy. But it happens fast, man,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: It happens fast in baseball. And if he's not remember
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: he was out of shape and then he was hurt,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: and it's just they were just tired of dealing with it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: And he doesn't he's not under contract. They can just
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: let him go.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: And they did it, and another team is going to
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: scoop him up.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Some team's gonna scoom up, say we can fix them.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: The thing about Minoa is his stuff was never over
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: over the moon good. It was always like he was
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: a competitor and three strikes and he could locate. But
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: he lost the ability to do that. And so then
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: because if you ask people about him, they won't tell
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: you that his stuff is great. Right, stuff doesn't. He
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: has a good slider, but his other stuff doesn't rate great.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: He has to compete and throw in a perfect spot
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: and he's not doing that. He gets wet.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be very interesting. What a freaking rollercoaster ride.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: We talked to Carlos Mendoz on our show Mets Manager,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: and then a few hours later his team is getting
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: smacked early on at Wrigley Field. They're down six to one,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: they come back, they win the game. Edwin Diaz gives
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: them six outs. He was disgusting, five strikeouts, and the
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Mets are now back in control of their own destiny.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: How crazy was that game because the Mets were blowing
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: at early AJ We were texting about it like the
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Mets were metsing. I mean, Sodo gets turned around on
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: a flyball and right that had a high catch probability.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: McNeil had two terrible throws. David Peterson was brutal. Yeah,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: on their best picture, but he has lost it lately.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: His ra is eight four to two in his last
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: nine starts and he's probably not making another start. They
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: pushed up Nolan McClain to Thursday. He can pitch and
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: then also be lined up for a potential wildcard game.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: He's now clearly their number one starter. But the Mets
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: offense came through here. You got to give them credit.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Nemo with a left on left homer, second time in
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: a week he's done that in a big spot. They
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: came through. Lindor had several key hits on a home
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: run to get things started, but also Keyrbi later to
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: out two strike RBI single off of Pomerantz to make
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: it seven to six. Then they tied it again. Then
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Francisco Auverarez with the two run home run. That was
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: his Mets moment.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: That was It was awesome. This is a great game
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: to watch if you were a Mets fan. The question
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: is is what do they have left for today? Because
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: they used every one of their dude yesterday Stantic check,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Soto check, Rogers, check, Ralely check, Diaz two innings check,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: and Diazz pitched three games in a row. So that's
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: three out of four days because they had Monday off.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: So it's even available today.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: No, I doubt it.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Where was Horton? What on to Horton? Were they going?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Was he just on an innings limit?
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: So to Horton, like, what are we doing?
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, I get it the Cubs are already in,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: but man, I would have liked, you know, you're trying
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: to ruin other people's lives here, Like you leave your
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: best guy.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Out there three innings, twenty nine pitches. It sounds like
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: he was sick, and then they said his back was
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: tightening up, so that combo and then the Cubs fans
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: are speculating online that they were trying to limit his
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: innings because he's young and he's going to be pitching
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: big playoff games for them. So there's all kinds of
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: rumors being spread, and the Cubs lose, meaning that Kratz,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: the Padres have two lanes to get back to home
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: playoff games in the Wildcard round if they catch the
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Dodgers or more likely the Cubs because they're one and
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: a half games back to in the lost column, but
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: they do hold the tiebreaker.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: You do not all of the National League does not
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: want to have home games for the Padres, whatever they
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: can do. You do not want to play that team
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: in the playoffs at home. But Kate hort it probably
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: wouldn't have been very many rumors had like we got
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: some kind of solidified reason. But like he said, he
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: had trouble breathing. Then his back tightened up, Like what
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: is it? And and this is this is the issue
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: with what we talk about when we talk about schedule,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: and Scott says, who would you rather be playing right now?
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: The Braves or the Nats? Who would you rather be
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: playing right You know, it's it's where you're playing them
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: at what time. The Cubs aren't mailing it in, but
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: they do have to figure out how to set themselves
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: up and get in to be the number one wild
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: card seed, but also to be able to set themselves
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: up to win that first Wildcard series. So I don't know,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: but it was an ugly game. It was another ugly
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: game the Guardians and Tigers. They couldn't hit the Cubs,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: and the Cubs and the Mets.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: They couldn't pitch, yeah, they can they can hit the
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Tigers face two aces, yeah, and Williams in school. So
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: saying they can't hit in general they're not hitting though
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: in general they're not. And then in this game there
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: was some questionable decisions I thought somewhere like what like
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: I said, Horton coming out, you know, bringing in this
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: guy or that guy to face this guy.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Mendy did a great job and you.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Did an awesome job because they won the game.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: And you go ds six outs, no messing around, right.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Five out of the six out? Yeah, I mean it was.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Do you know Danzer for eleven with Yeah, I was
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: gonna bring that one ups. That's not good.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: You don't. That's what you get Dancy for not scoring
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: on that ball I hit.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: They're still on that from last week. Cubs clinched last Wednesday.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: They have not won since. So it's only five games,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: but at some point.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, they got Boyd going tonight against Tom and
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: they got him and Auga who they need to step
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: up against McLean on Thursday. So listen, the Mets have
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: struggled against lefting of pitching all year, so we'll see.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: But they will boy be on a limit because he's
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: gonna pitch in a postseason game. More than likely Mona
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: are gonna be on a limit like the Mets are hitting.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Maybe hitting the Cubs at the perfect.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Time schedule wise. Yeah, I mean, this is when you
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: want to run into a team that was coming off
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: of bad sweep against the Reds. You've got a half
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: prep for the playoffs. Right, if Kate Horton comes up
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: to you and says, back's feeling a little tight, I
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: can probably go. If you're the Cubs. In fairness, you say, okay,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: you're coming out of the game because we need you
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Bro, Like, this game is cool, but
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: this game's not deciding our fate. So I get it,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: you know, It's just it's tough timing for the Mets.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Though. Is Mendy punting on today's game? No?
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Why would he be punting.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: He can't punt on any game.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: No.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, he can't pitch Diaz, but he's got other arms.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: He's gonna have to step up. Elsie's gonna have to
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: step up. It's Ryan Helsley time. Yep, it's time. It's time.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: This is your chance, Ryan, all the things that have
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: been said and all the struggles you've had as a
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: met you know what, You go out there and if
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: they need you to go six outs, and you go
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: out there tonight and you get six outs for him
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: and they win the game, it all goes away, big
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: fella Hellsley.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Helsley feels more comfortable because they can't figure out he's not.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: They're like he's not tipping, or we figure that out.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: His v low's the same. What if they put Helsley tonight,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Mandy thinks, hey, you know what, he feels more comfortable
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: in the closer role. We know we don't have Edwin.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: He stinks in the seventh and eighth inning. Might as
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: well blow Ed went out, not have him because he
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: wasn't gonna be to throw again anyway, because he was
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: already three days. He wouldn't throw him four in a row.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Helsley moves in. Maybe that jump starts healthy because he's
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: used to the ninth inning.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I agree, I've throw him in the ninth tonight. I
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: mean he has said he's not pitching tonight.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: He should have him. He's gonna say he wants to pitch.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: But I mean again, they used everybody. He used every
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Proza ban So multiple Stantic pitched last night, Rogers, Pitch
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Las Night, rarely pitched last night. I mean they he listened,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: he went for he he knew. Plus it's what I
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: talked about yesterday. They look up there and they're an
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: hour behind. The Reds are already lost. So guess what,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: here's our chance to get back and control our destiny. Boys,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: we're going all in on this game. Tomorrow's tomorrow. But again,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: this is where the time zones matter where you're playing
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: and what time you're playing.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Reds were trowling the whole game, right.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: They fell behind four nothing early, and you don't think
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: that gave a fire to that match. Dug out Even
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: when they were down six to one, they're like, oh
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: we could. We still need to win this game. Boys.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Right, you're in the doug out, You're like, hey, guys,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: we win tonight. We're back.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: We're back.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: That's it, we see it. It's on the screen. Diamondbacks
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: had a hell of a walk off to stay alive.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: They're still a game back. We're gonna talk to Dylan
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Hernandez about that game. In general, the Reds are twenty
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: and twenty three in their last forty three. They have
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: great weekend against the Cubs to sweep them, but they
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: were kind of lifeless last night. They lost four too.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: They were down early and the ballpark looked pretty damn empty.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I think the announced attendance was solid, but it didn't
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: look that way.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Terry Francona City what got to the ballpark at nine
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: am because he was so excited.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: In uniform, in uniform, but lifeless. I watched most of
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: that game because it started earlier. Elliet had a great game.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: He's the only one that can hit right now.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, look at their Him and Steer
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: are in a world of their own, and everybody else
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: is Man.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: What happened to Matt McLean? Cabrian Hayes, we knew with
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: you again. I think I think that shoulder. I think
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: that shoulder takes more than a year to recover from.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: I really believe Matt and hope Matt McLean's going to
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: be the dude like he should have been an All
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Star two years ago before he heard his shoulder with
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: the thing over our over arching? Has the Great American
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Ballpark turned into a pitcher's haven now? Like they have
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: one of the best pictures starting rotation ra The dudes
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: are making jumps and strides in their pitching. And the lineup,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: which I thought was gonna be legit has gone over
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: the last two years.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: That's true, and well they're building. It didn't look like
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: it though.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Almost thirty thousand was empty.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say it with my chest. They looked
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: empty in the outfield. Hey, Bruce Bochi apparently was calling
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: out his team's focus and intensity. It kind of sounded
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: like he felt as if they were giving up, but
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: once they were swept by the Astros, it was done.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: So is he talking about during that time period or
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: is he talking about like now where who cares? You know?
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Like mathematically they just got a.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Mathematically they were alive. But yeah, do you still have
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: to play it like you can win?
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: I mean they've lost.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: They fell apart that the Marlins dusted them, like what happened?
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know, but this is Boach just sending
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: a message like, hey, we need to be better than this. Okay,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I don't think Yeah, I think this is Boach if
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: he comes back next year sending a message like, hey guys,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: we need to be better. Now they're without secret, they're
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: without sending. I mean, the little rascals can only do
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: so much.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, is not with them right now? Yep?
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Do you think it was Do you think it was
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: directed at the players currently and their last five games?
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: I don't think it was just a one game thing.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Or do you think it was kind of what we've
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: wondered all year about the Rangers, like how focused are
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: they on winning games. We've heard a lot of stuff
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: about guys being focused on their individual stuff and then
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: when the game happens, Hey, you know what, we all
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: come out and we play together, and then we go
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: back to our individual stuff. Was it a larger comment
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: or was it just recently I've seen you guys not
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: playing very well, and I'm calling you out right now.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Because if that's the case, he's calling out a bunch
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: of dudes with not a lot of experience, no.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Playoffs the last couple of years after winning a World
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Series in twenty twenty three. Yeah, it is interesting. It
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: does feel like something's missing there. The comments from Doc
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Peterson were super interesting if you try and read between
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: the Lions. He felt like it was a very different
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: atmosphere there and had to get adjusted. They like you
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: get you get a lot of these show yes.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: And it was different than any other team he had.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: And got rushed for it for what for saying it
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: feels different. It's pathetic that people went after that. If
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: you look back, it's pathetic what you said it felt different.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Who cares? He's also just being truthful and then someone
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: on the team said the same damn thing.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Just now.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: See why see why I took it, took offense to it.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: So you know, there's something like if somebody brings something
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: up that's like not even a thing, like you'd be like,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: what what is that guy talking about? But even see
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: why Chris Young came out and was like, oh you.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Know what he said.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: You know he didn't really realize it, but it could
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: hurt the feelings of the guys here. And it's like,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: so you're not saying are you saying he's not wrong?
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: What are you saying?
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Also, you need people to come into a clubhouse and
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: tell it like it is. It's been a thing for years.
• 33:48
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• 34:57
  Speaker 1: We're gonna take the and a postseason spot. Technically they
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: don't have the division yet. Their magic number is one.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: They score three in the eighth Nailer at the Big Knock.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: He's been an awesome pick up as expected. I've always
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: been a big nailer guy. So they beat the Rockies
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: for to three. They pop bottles, they celebrate, but wait,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: there's more. We all like to party at least US
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: three on this show. AJ they have an opportunity for
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: back to back champagne popping celebrations and they will live
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: it up to the fullest because the Mariners don't get
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: to do this as a franchise very often.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: They haven't won the division since they won one hundred
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: and sixteen games in two thousand and one. One I
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: played against a team nineteen was ridiculously good and didn't
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: win crab in the postseason.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: No, but.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Good for the Maryors, good for the Mirrors fans. I'll
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: see you guys at Alds Game one more than likely
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: out in Seattle. I can't wait. And then Sunday I
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: get to go watch the Bucks play the Seahawks, hopefully
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: double dip that day. I'm looking forward to my trip
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: out West. I love Seattle, I love the fans out there,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I love the ballpark. And listen, they're four up with
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: five to play. They're not losing that division and they
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: have this typebreaker, so they're five up with five to play, right, Yeah,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: that's why the Magic Numbers won.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's over.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Congratulations Marriners, Congratulations Semen. You guys have won the West.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: That's a funny word, but this is you have to
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: celebrate both as a team. Like when you celebrate, you
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: celebrate making the playoffs, because that's hard to do. You
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: work the whole season for it. When you win the division,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: you celebrate a little harder. You celebrate a little harder.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: You get the guys, and then you realize that the
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: last four games, because I think it'll happen tonight, the
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: last four games, you're getting your lineup set. You're I
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: don't know if cal Rowley catches another game. I wouldn't,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: especially with what happened at J T last night. J
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: t Romuto took that foul ball off his hand.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: You just.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know how you play it, but
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: celebrate it, and I hope it happens tonight. I hope
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: it does. Two for my luck.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, someone and someone in the chat, does this panel
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: talk about the Mariners at all? Oh my gosh, If
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I had, If.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I had the biggest lover of all time, if I
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: had and the pirates who loves.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you, if I had a penny for
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: every comment that I get across all social media platforms.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: You don't talk about this team enough. You don't talk
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: about that team. I think it's endearing because it just
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: means they're paying attention. They would like more love. But
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: there are thirty teams. We don't talk about them all equally.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: You follow the storyline, you don't talk about the rock
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: We don't talk about at the beginning of the year.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: We don't talk about them because they've been damn been
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: very good. They were talking about when they're relevant.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well they were relevant relevant.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: It's like it's like this. It's when you do a game,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: we do the postseason games coming up. Okay, if I
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: whoever I am, lost, your Phillies and Mets, whoever team
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: is winning, that's the team you talk about because they're
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: doing things that make them win. So guess what you say, Hey,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: the Mets winning, Mets beat the Phillies because this happened.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: This happened. Oh why do you hate the Phillies. Well,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: the Phillies didn't play very well. They lost, so I
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: can't pump them up, right, You can't pump up the
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Phillies if they're not doing It's the same thing here.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Why we can talk about the Rockies. How about last
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: night the Rockies more than any other show.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Last night's game with the Mets and the Cubs, You'll
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: be if you were doing that game nationally, you'd be
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: smashing the Mets early on for all of the defensive mistakes,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: and then you would praise them, and then you'd smash
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: the Cubs because you'd be like, why it is worting
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: out and look at the bullpen blowing it again. Blah
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: blah blah. That is just how it works to cover things.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Now, marks like the Astros the Tigers are like, thank you,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: as that's the thing. This is collaps should probably be out,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: but the Astros have done nothing to help their cause.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: This Tiger's collapse has a really nice landing spot, which is.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: The third wild card to go play.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Cleveland does and they could beat them there.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: It's amazing. Usas are banged up like nobody's but they
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: got Hunter Brown going tonight, they got from Or going tomorrow.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, they've got what they need and they're playing
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Sacramento Severino tonight. Is that doesn't pitch going Sacramento. So
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: they got to win one before they can get win too.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: They kind of have to win every game, yeah, I mean,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: so they have five left, they have to win at
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: least four of.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Those, yeah, because they don't have the tiebreaker.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: They don't have the tiebreaker on anyone, like even if
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Boston falls apart the next few games. Because Boston and
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Detroit are going to play each other, they don't have
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: the tiebreaker on them either. So this is harry for Houston.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, what the only thing they do have aj
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: is on paper not difficult teams that they're facing right
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: But the A's right now are playing pretty well. They're
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: hidding so they beat him yesterday. So they got to
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: take down the A's these next couple games. Then they
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: have the Angels, not a good team right now, they
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: should be on the pitching, and then they need Detroit
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: or Boston to get swept because they play each other
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: at the end of the year. That would be the
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: big help for them.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't think that's gonna happen. I don't
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: think because if Boston's already got it locked up, they
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: might not be like, eh, we already got our playoffs
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: locked up.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the case, although it's kind of what's interesting.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: What's interesting about what I just said about me going
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: to Seattle is it won't be guaranteed if the Red
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Sox are the sixth seed, Like if Detroit goes in
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: there and beats them and takes over the five seed
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: from the Red Sox, which is a real possibility. Then
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: that would be then I'd have to wait to find
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: out where I'm going because of Boston, because New York,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: and well, because Toronto is the wild card.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Toronto doesn't have the division yet either.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: If New York wins the division, and I'm definitely I
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: know I'm not going to New.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: York right so there's a lot still to be decided,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: is how we would sum things up. We also, I
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: do want to get this in there. On the Red
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Sox that they won yesterday. We talked with Ken about
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: the whole fair foul thing that was one of the
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: most unlucky sequences by the way, so hey, Red Sox
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: get the job done, they win the game. But that's
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: two runs right there that went against the Toronto Blue
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Jays for a ball that was fair called foul crats,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: and then later in the bat a pitch two baseball's
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: off the plate is called a strike. Springer's like, okay,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, uncle, what are we doing here? This is
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: not baseball.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: I mean he's got his not comment but caught and mouthing,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: oh well, don't they just give it to New York
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: shows shows they're looking, they're they're playing like this.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: They're like, who is who was trying to catch it?
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: The Yankees? Oh, major League.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Baseball totally wants the Yankees to get in. We're totally screwed.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: But it was it was a funny comment to me,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: A funny comment from from Springer.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: I agree, and so for the Red Sox they win.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Chapman of course, nails down another save. He's been money. Well,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: there you go. Astros lose Red Sox leading by two
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: games in the wildcard sendings. This is Tim Healey. They
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: own the tiebreaker, basically a three game lead with five
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: to go. Can we also show the Tim Heey tweet
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: about Roman Anthony because it doesn't give Red Sox fans
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: a ton of hope until probably the ALCS. So here's
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Craig Braslow leading the front office on Roman Anthony. At first,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: you could look at him utel that he was in
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: quite a bit of discomfort and pain. That has subsided,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: but there's still quite a bit of room to get
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: to in terms of baseball activity. Tim Healey covers the
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: team said his read is ALCS is extreme best case scenario,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: not guaranteed. Offense is different without him in there. I
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: know he's a rookie, but he was the one guy
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: that was really.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Pushing him to try to get back and help your offense.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Just ash, yeah, just to get him because you need
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: him in the lineup. Wouldn't you think that they've trying
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: everything in their power saying all right, well, you know, jeez,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: we need like Kyle Schwerber style, like we need him
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: in our lineup just no matter what he does.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: But I don't o't bleak. But I said that again,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: you just put him on the eye.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: If he hurts it the first game, you just put
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: him back on the eye own say oh, he's done
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: for the year. But at least try.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I think they are trying. I think it just takes time.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I just feel like sometimes you know, this was this
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: is like all right, well, we're already looking in next year.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: We don't want them good for I don't know. It's
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: it's weird because most teams right now are trying to
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: get their guys back, especially they're big guys.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: He's like Preatus is playing with like one leg. Yeah,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Francisco Operas has eight fingers instead of ten. Yeah, he's
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: like broken two fingers and he's catching every day.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, again, I
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: don't know how you can't say how injured guys are.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know the oblique. I mean you do. You
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: said it was really tough, but also you came back.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: What was it during the season when you had it? Like,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: was it in the middle of a season or was
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: at the end? And why you messed like two weeks? Right,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: so this is more of a month track, just a
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: bad idea, right. But that's the thing They're like, we
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: don't want to do that. We got a lot of
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: money invested in this guy, and we don't want to
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: come back with him as the shell of himself.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's the playoffs, man, I don't know.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: And another injury, another another oblique. How hard do you
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: push Jeremy Panya? The team is, the team is, offense
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: is completely different without him in it. He's a three
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: hundred hitter in the middle of that lineup, let alone
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: the fact that he plays shortstop. So other teams are
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: going through this right now, Boston. I hope Boston doesn't
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: say I think I think Roman Anthony's injuries pretty significant, clearly,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: but I would hope they wouldn't say we got to
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: save him we got to make sure he's healthy for
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: the rest of his career. If there's any chance, I
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: think they're bringing him back, I truly do.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a matter of when. I mean, do
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: you have to be in the Alcs or even potentially
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: the World Series until he can get himself back. It's
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: a tall task, so I know.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, especially didn't play every game. Freddy didn't play every game.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Freddy Freeman didn't play every game last year for the
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: Dodgers because of his his ankle, Like that's how he
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: was playing through it. And he wouldn't play every game,
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: which was crazy to me. The fact that he still
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: was able to play and win the MVP in.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: The World Series.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, different injuries, though I love.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: People in the chat are telling me that Lucas Giolito
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: last night was not good. How I mean, the.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Final line was good? No? What was he four? Was
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: he four and two thirds?
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: One run? Three hits? I mean he walked four guys,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: but they didn't they scored one run.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Well, that is it because he was better than Gosman
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: who gave up four Is it because he gave up
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: the two runs but didn't And they're saying it doesn't matter.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: It doesn't kill Yeah, exactly.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: I don't get what are you talking about. He was
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: he was good, yeah, but he was good enough to win.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: And he's been great for them. Yeah, he's been great
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: for them.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: And with their bullpen, and with their bullpen, you're glad
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: you get four and two thirds. You're not pushing them
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: any farther. That's how he's going to go in the playoffs.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: You're only pushing Garrett Crochet Beyo gives you four innings,
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: You're going to that bullpen. I know they've had a
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: blip recently, but you're going to that bullpen.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: We love you.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Might as well go win the whole fucking thing.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Hey, cal language.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: You just want you just punched the postseason. Who cares?
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: They've been there once? Oh, I don't give the last
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: twenty four years.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah kidding, Say whatever you want, dude.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: I thought that was Julio Rodriguez's town. Clearly, Clearly this
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: is cal Raley's town. And I hope Julio is fine
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: with that. I hope it takes a little bit of
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: pressure off and he can be second hand folio like
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: he is every year and doesn't need to feel the pressure.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: But Cal has taken over the Northwest.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: God Father you and me grew up in Jersey. We
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: liked to collect cards, but the way the process got
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: was ridiculous. You open up a pack, there's a bunch
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: of cards you don't care about. Then you want to
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: get certain ones graded takes forever right, then you want
• 47:23
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• 47:26
  Speaker 1: club has been the solution for us.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: Arena Club has been a solution for everybody. You go online,
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: go to Arena Club and you check out what they have,
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  Speaker 1: in the Nationals finalizing a deal to name Paul to
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  Speaker 1: Bonie their new head of baseball operations. To Bonie is
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: thirty five years old. He was a quick riser through
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: the Red Sox front office to become assistant GM. He
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: is in consideration for their GM job under Craig Breslo.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: That's going on right now. So he was in the
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: running for that, but the Nats were like, hey, dude,
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  Speaker 1: want to run the front office instead of being the
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: number two? And he said yes. More from passing for
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: a Nationals team in need of a serious infusion of talent.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: It's worth noting that he ran the draft for Boston
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: when they chose Roman Anthony, Marcella Meyer, Christian Campbell, Peyton,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: totally Connolly Early, and the prospects who went to Chicago
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: in the Garrett Crochet deal. That is a monster performance
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  Speaker 1: over the last half decade.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, congratulations, Yeah, I know I think about congratulations.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: I've been reading about him. So Ken Rosenthal and Britgeroli
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: have a story out. It just came out two minutes ago.
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of learning as we go here more about
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• 49:13
  Speaker 1: They've been doing a lot of work behind the scenes
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: on all of this, but essentially that was the offercrats.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I think he would have gotten the GM job as
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: the real number two guy behind Craig Breslow, but for him,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: he gets to be the number one guy. Remember they
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: also have Mike de Bartolow, who is the interim GM.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know where he stands. Sometimes a guy will
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: keep someone like that on if he wants to stay,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: at least for now, because I don't think that Bartolow
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: is getting a job elsewhere as the leader of a
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: front office. So it helps the continuation process. But I
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: think this is interesting. I mean, you certainly like the
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: track record of this guy.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: I mean track records. He's had like two laps around
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: the track. He is young for this position. I mean,
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: obviously theo Epstein, you know, he was really young. But
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: I remember I was on the call when the Red
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Sox did the draft and when I worked for the
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: Red Sox, and he was he was. Him and Rashardi
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: were one of the guys that were like kind of
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: leading up the call, and I was just listening and
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: I remember thinking, man, these guys are young. JP Rashardi's kid,
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: I forget his first name, but Paul was on that call,
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: and I was like, you know, it's it's amazing how
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: young these guys are. But men, do they get after it?
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: I don't think anybody does amateur scouting. I feel like
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: those guys don't sleep. It's like they eat and they
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: type reports and they evaluate players. Is it Dante by
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: the way, I'm not Yeah, I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I just know the kids.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, those are the Sun names whatever.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: But but for Tiboni, I mean he was going up
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: against some probably more notable names because they've been around
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: for a while. So according to Kennon Bridge article, other
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: executives under consideration included Dodgers senior vice president Josh Burns,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Cleveland Guardians assistant JM. Matt Foreman, Cubs GM Carter Hawkins,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: and Diamondback's assistant Jim Amuel Saude as long as as
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: well as Red Sox assistant general manager Eddie Romero were
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: also one who interviewed. Although I think some of these
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: names ended up turning the job down. I know you
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: guys had Josh Barfield on the show last week and
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: he was in consideration but said no. Right, okay, So hey,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: first off, I want to stop for a second, and
• 51:33
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• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Washington Nationals for doing something that is so stupidly obvious
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: that you would think everyone in the top league for
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: baseball in the world would do, but they don't. They
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: interviewed a lot of candidates. Why, because you want to
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: gather intel. It is your opportunity to talk to people
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: who have secrets and insights from what they're doing. It
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: is a no bring when you have this opportunity, and
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: not every organization does this. Most of them do because
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: they have a brain, but some of them don't. It
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: is a free opportunity for information. Right, if somebody's super
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: smart who was at the top of their craft or
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: at the top of their industry, AJ came up to
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: you and said, hey, do you want my free advice,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: I'll sit down and have a lunch with you. Right,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Let's say you're an aspiring CEO of a tech company,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: and a tech company CEO says, hey, I'll have lunch
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  Speaker 1: with you It's like saying, nah, I don't want to
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I don't even want to talk to you. It is
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: brain dead to do that. The Nationals took the correct
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: route to talk to people, even if they thought this
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: was their guy all along. You still talk to six
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: seven eight people. Why wouldn't you?
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: You know, if I was in charge of a team,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: I'd say, give me, give me look at organization and
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: give me your best Give me a folder full of
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: your best ideas on how to fix this organization. And
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: you can get a bunch of ideas and maybe one
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: of them sticks, and maybe maybe you hire them also
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: as assistant GM. If you other they get along with
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: the guy you hire. I don't know, but it's a
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  Speaker 2: great way to steal free information. And I'm all about
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• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Barfield, by the way, said no to Baltimore. That's my bad.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Because there are a few different front office jobs open
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: right now. The Red Sox are interviewing for their GM job,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: and that includes internal conversations. Craig Breslo is still the leader.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: They call it CBO with the Red Sox because they're
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: special for some reason. Most teams call it President Baseball operations.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: But that's going on with the Orioles as they're looking
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: for a GM next to Mike Elias, who's the President
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: of Baseball Operations. But back to Tiboni for a moment, Kratz,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: this is President of Baseball Operations. This isn't GM. There
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: had been reports that they were looking for one or
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: both if they were going to pry him away from
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: the Red Sox. It looked like it had to be
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: not only the guy to run the front office, but
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: for the label to be President of Baseball Operations. The
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Nats are one of the cheaper organizations when it comes
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: to paying gms and coaches. But still I'm sure there's
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: like a like a a basement number, right, a base
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: line number where it's like, okay, even if we want
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: to pay you at the bottom of the barrel for
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: President Baseball Operations, that's still going to be, you know,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: higher than the GM number.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the lowest President Baseball Operations would be higher than
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: the highest GM. And the names have changed. I mean
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: I remember when guys were hired as a GM. Sam
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: Fuld was hired as a GM, and I was like, WHOA,
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: You're the general manager. Ran At the same time, Dombrowski
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: came in and I was like, wait a minute. So
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: teams have reshuffled that naming rights. But either way, are
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: the Gnats going to try to do something with their
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: draft similar to what they the Red Sox did? Is
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: that what they're is that what they're hoping for because
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: the Nats really haven't produced guys in their draft. They've
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: drafted one ones and they've traded for guys. You got
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: to produce in the draft, you got to produce in
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: the minor league system, and that's something that that's haven't
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: done well.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: In Ken and Britt's article, they said the Nationals since
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: twenty thirteen have drafted and developed two players with career
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: wars above five, and they're going off the Baseball Reference
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: war two players. Neither of those players are with the
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: organization anymore. I don't think you'll get the names just
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: because you'll go, oh wow, I forgot so wait since
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: No No drafted, so I think he's counted as a sign.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's where it gets a little tricky because
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: they did twenty f no. But but internet, they're talking
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: about draft drafted players and they're both pitchers that were
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: in the organization. I don't think you're going to get
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: either of them. I wouldn't right off the top top No.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Strasbourg was probably drafted before twenty thirteen. So I'll give
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: you the names Nick Povetta and Jesus Lozardo. That's it.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: I forgot both those guys are even with that organization
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: I know now. I don't even know Didata even played
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: for the Nationals.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Ever, I don't think so.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: He went to the Phillies and was the mazar illustraded too.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: And Mozara was traded. Now they had a monster trade.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: They nailed their trade in my mind for Juan Soto,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: so it's not like they did nothing and that.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Was the Bartolo.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: People are gonna say it was Rizzo, but from what
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: I heard from inside the organization to Bartolo was the
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: was key behind that Sodo trade.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, So now it's Paul Taboni. Just in summary, he
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: had been promoted a billion times already within the Red
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Sox org. He's thirty five years old. He gets to
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: run the Washington Nationals, so probably have a new owner
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: at some point over the next few years too, and
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll want to keep him on board if
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: he brings the success over drafting like he did with
• 56:44
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  Speaker 2: He was not please.
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• 57:46
  Speaker 1: He said, this is the most frustrating all the times
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: the Giants have missed playoffs in his career. Has had
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: no offense to the teams we've had before. But this
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: is the most talented team I've been on. I think
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: there were a lot of expectations and it sucks.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's baseball. There's been good teams have missed
• 58:02
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• 58:03
  Speaker 2: that make the playoffs. I've been on them.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: If they sold, if they didn't sell out the trade deadline,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: would that have made a difference to you.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: I don't think they were expecting the Mets to collapse.
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  Speaker 2: They weren't go anywhere with the guys.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: They had so five hundred, they're so five hundred for
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: a long time.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: The division, the division was there too.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: Padres haven't played as well, Dodgers clearly haven't played as well.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: The wild card was their path to the playoffs. But
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: the teams are beatable, not unlike at the beginning of
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: the year. I don't know if they're beatable or not,
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: but they're They're returning to a lot of guys. They're
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: set up to make a run if they make the
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: right moves, get some off. Keep saying in San France.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Full season of devors helps a Ton Williadamis was scorched
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year for his performance. They
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: actually look at his numbers now, they're pretty close to
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: what he puts together almost every year. Like last year
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: he was a three point one war This year he's
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: at three point three, which is better than it's been
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: since twenty twenty two ops plus one oh nine, very
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: close to what it's been the last few years. Like
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: he's put up the same damn numbers park adjusted that
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: he's done in the past. So I know there were
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: fans all over his case. I don't think they should
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: be anymore. Plus, he brings a lot of energy to
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: the team. Him and Drew Gilbert in a clubhouse. That's
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of talking. And last but not least, I'm
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: watching Skeens in Green.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Of course Skeens is gonna.
• 59:38
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• 59:41
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• 59:43
  Speaker 3: Right, Please don't pull him out early, Please don Kelly,
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: don't whatever the ORG says, Let this man cook, give
• 59:53
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• 59:57
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  Speaker 1: This is his yes, right, AJ if your schemes do
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