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- 0:00Welcome to Buck guys tomorrow morning for Friday, February twenty third. I'm your
- 0:03host, Tom Moore. The Akron game is in one hundred and ninety days.
- 0:06The game against Michigan in two hundred and eighty one days. All right,
- 0:10today we're going to be hearing directly from Ohio State linebackers coach James Laurenidis,
- 0:15the newest member of the Ohio State coaching staff. He had some very
- 0:19very interesting thing to say during interviews earlier in the week, so interesting,
- 0:23in fact, I think we're actually going to have two separate shows about this,
- 0:27one about his thoughts on coaching in the new coaching position and his new
- 0:31role and all that kind of stuff, because he had a ton of interesting
- 0:33stuff to talk about with that, and recruiting and all that kind of stuff.
- 0:37And then we'll have a whole separate show coming up on Sunday with Laura
- 0:41Nidis talking about the actual guys in his room and where guys might fit in
- 0:44different roles and all that kind of stuff. He is a really, really
- 0:48good interview I think you guys are really going to enjoy both of these episodes.
- 0:52All right, let's start with this one. James Lourniitis obviously came over
- 0:56from Notre Dame last year to be the new graduate assistant sort of overseeing the
- 1:00linebackers at Ohios date did he expect that he was going to get the linebacker's
- 1:06job this year. I don't think you ever expect. I think a lot
- 1:11of times you just you try to go to work and do your role and
- 1:17do it to the best of your ability. And obviously I was aware that
- 1:21the position was open and was hopeful. It's something that I believe a year
- 1:26ago when I came back, I kind of voiced that was my dream was
- 1:30to be linebacker's coach here, and so there was kind of a lot of
- 1:34unknown going through those few weeks and going on the road and recruiting for the
- 1:38first time and all of that actually in person and doing that stuff. But
- 1:44I felt pretty confident that I had done the best job I could have to
- 1:49prepare myself for the opportunity, and just grateful that Coach Day believed in me.
- 1:53One of the big differences in being one of the ten countable assistants as
- 1:57opposed to a graduate assistant is you now can go on the road and recruit,
- 2:01and when he was on the road recently recruiting linebackers. It's his job
- 2:06to plan those trips. So what is it like to be on the road
- 2:09as a one of the ten accountable coaches as a recruiter, and what's it
- 2:13like to try and plan one of those trips. A lot of logistics,
- 2:16you know, you're trying to figure out. I mean, ever since I
- 2:21was young, I've always I think it was my dad. I always wanted
- 2:24to be on time. So really that was, to be honest, that
- 2:27was the first thing that I popped my mind. If I told a coach
- 2:29I was going to be there at a certain time, I wanted to be
- 2:30earlier or on a time, And you're just trying to map out how many
- 2:36schools can you see within a certain amount of time and trying to prioritize what
- 2:40players you wanted to see, you know, in those time periods as well.
- 2:45So I thrived on the opportunity to meet these players, they're coaches,
- 2:52the people who are important to them in person. It's one thing that I
- 2:54think to do it over the phone, it's another thing to be able to
- 2:57do it in person and let them see you and face the face. I
- 3:01think it is a lot more impactful. So I was grateful for that opportunity
- 3:05and look forward to continue to do it. Laura Nottis was a significant part
- 3:07of the Ohio State coaching staff last year as well as a graduate assistant for
- 3:10the linebackers. Will this year be much different for him? I don't think
- 3:15a lot is different. I certainly felt like the linebacker coach last year.
- 3:21I think the guys would have said the same thing. It's the little things
- 3:24that it's the little things to me that you know, maybe not doing some
- 3:30things in the breakdown. You know that a that a graduate assistant does.
- 3:34Being able to have my own office is to be honest, like when you're
- 3:38when you're meeting with the guys and we were kind of meeting in the defensive
- 3:42staff room and everyone's trying to get ready for practice, right, so people
- 3:45are walking in and out, and I think just having my own space,
- 3:49that's something that I mean's a little thing with something I'm looking for to definitely
- 3:53and and so I think for me it's it's all those just just knowing that
- 4:00the title brings that that's your like those are your guys, that's your room,
- 4:04and there's a lot of responsibility with that, but I but I cherished
- 4:06that as a graduate assistant. Last year, laurenete Is was a graduate student
- 4:11at Ohio State, so he's supposed to be learning and growing. So how
- 4:14has he grown over the last year as a graduate student. I think a
- 4:16lot of it is, you know, I think I spoke about it last
- 4:19year. It's teaching progression is one thing, and now thankfully being in the
- 4:26same scheme for two years in a row, I think will be very beneficial.
- 4:30You know, year one at Notre Dame, you're learning how to teach
- 4:33it, you know, and you forget what young college players don't know.
- 4:36And then coming over here, a lot of it was trying to learn what
- 4:42Knowles was not only his scheme, but how he wanted it to be coached.
- 4:46And now understanding the scheme and kind of what it is, you can
- 4:50just dive deeper. And so I'm really excited about it. You know,
- 4:55I'm looking forward to a big spring for our guys, you know, with
- 5:00Cody and CJ and Gay Powers and r vel Reeve. So there's a lot
- 5:04of guys that are gonna be fighting for playing time. I think Cody's really
- 5:09the only one with starts under his belt. So it's a big spring for
- 5:14a lot of for a lot of our guys. Now that Laura and Iidis
- 5:16is one of the ten countable coaches, does he have more of a voice
- 5:19in the room right now in terms of what the scheme is, how they
- 5:23do things all that. Yeah. And I think early on when I came
- 5:28back here, you know, I tried. I was very aware of that,
- 5:30you know, I being a former player here, I didn't want anyone
- 5:34in the building to think that, I'll put it this way, tim.
- 5:39I wanted to work for everything, if that makes sense. You know.
- 5:42I didn't want to come back and I think sometimes there's a stigma with former
- 5:46players because sometimes I think some of them have been that way where they just
- 5:50expect things handed to him. I didn't want that to be the case.
- 5:54I wanted to work for everything, and so you know, a lot of
- 5:58times I would just absorb a lot of information. As the season went on,
- 6:01I and I felt a little more comfortable expressing stuff. But now that
- 6:05the title is what it is, I think, you know, you got
- 6:10to speak up when when you see things a certain way, and whether that's
- 6:13scheme wise or technique, whatever it is. And look, I think a
- 6:15lot of times last year, I agreed with a lot of what we were
- 6:18doing. You know, I think we had obviously, we had a lot
- 6:20of success on defense. So what is it that James Laurnis thinks that he
- 6:25did last year, that he did well enough that Ryan Day felt like he
- 6:29deserved this linebackers coaching job this year. Well, I hope there's a I
- 6:32hope there's a certain intelligence that I brought. And I've talked to Cody Simon
- 6:39about this, Tommy Steal, all those guys. But I think there's a
- 6:41certain way to go about preparing, not only for practicing, but for for
- 6:47the game and how you see the game that is very unique, and so
- 6:51I try to bring a perspective. I mean, it's one thing to go
- 6:56through and learn how to coach technique from clinics and all that stuff, and
- 7:01then when you go out there and live it, like I was blessed to
- 7:04do, you kind of realize what works, what doesn't, what looks really
- 7:09good in practice, and what doesn't actually apply. And I'm constantly trying to
- 7:13reevaluate what I'm teaching these guys because there's a lot of things that I've been
- 7:16taught that I'm like, this doesn't work. And then there's certain things that
- 7:21will work for certain players and won't you know, there's certain skill sets that
- 7:26maybe a gay powers has that CJ. Hicks doesn't have, and vice versa.
- 7:29Right like, so you're always trying to cater your techniques to the room
- 7:33as a whole, but also to the individual. And I just think playing
- 7:36gives me a perspective of I also know mentally and physically what these guys are
- 7:41going through. I know what plays are realistic to make and what aren't.
- 7:46I think the guys appreciate that, you know, because I know Tommy.
- 7:49Tommy and I have talked about it where he just felt that having the perspective
- 7:55of someone who has done it before at the level that I was blessed to
- 7:59do it at just kind of gave them that when I would say something it
- 8:03it carried some weight as I probably don't need to tell you signs signals,
- 8:09stealing of signs in signals, well, that turned into a pretty significant story
- 8:13during the course of last football season. Last year, James Loerniitis, as
- 8:16one of the GA's, was one of the coaches who signaled plays in from
- 8:18the sideline. So how challenging was it to do that and then also to
- 8:22try and think about managing your personnel and rotating your guys and all of that
- 8:26last fall. Yeah, well, I'll tell you what. Another thing I'm
- 8:30excited about when you're a full time coach is not signaling, you know,
- 8:33as stressful man, and obviously for big reason with a lot of the well
- 8:39publicized stuff that kind of went on around signaling in our conference, I think
- 8:43it's very stressful. And when you're trying to come up for I mean you're
- 8:46talking about week after week changing signals. I took up a lot of your
- 8:50time. It became an expert in sign language sometimes with some of these calls,
- 8:54and I think not having to do that in a serious point of view
- 8:58is the fact that like when I'm signaling, I'm sitting there waiting for what
- 9:03Gym's going to call next, where I don't really have I didn't have time
- 9:05to digest what was the last what happened on that play? Right? You
- 9:09kind of had to separate coaching and signaling, where I think now just being
- 9:13able to coach all a lot better pulse on Okay, what are the plays
- 9:18that are actually happening? Because that's a lot to handle when it's when it's
- 9:20when it's going on, and you had to have three sometimes we had five
- 9:24signalers up and trying to confuse people on who's active who's not. But I
- 9:30think also, you know, the spring, for instance, like you have
- 9:31to think about it like this, Cody Simon need a lot of reps.
- 9:35I don't think so. I think there are young players who need to make
- 9:37a lot of mistakes because I think some guys learn from making mistakes, and
- 9:41if you don't give them the opportunity to make a lot of mistakes, well
- 9:43they really truly grow. And so I think, you know, this spring,
- 9:46I got to be even more intentional on rotations even within practice, with
- 9:50science dealing obviously being sort of at the forefront of everyone's thought is James loriniis
- 9:56a fan of the move now to add helmet speakers for players at the college
- 10:01level. I played with it. Now you're still going to have to have
- 10:03signals because of tempo, and you're got mean you can imagine in the shoe
- 10:07if a team, if the crowd is getting into it and it's second down,
- 10:09they go tempo. On third down, you know you can communicate it
- 10:13in now it depends on is it just the mic or are they going to
- 10:15let a Mike linebacker I mean, or are they going to let the whole
- 10:18defense happen? A lot of that has to be ironed out because in the
- 10:20NFL, it's a green dot, it's one guy. So you would get
- 10:22the call and then be on you to signal it or yell it to everybody
- 10:26else in the defense, which I know during the bowl games some of the
- 10:31teams had it where the whole defense would have the mic. That would be
- 10:33a dream, but just because you know, it would prevent obviously a lot
- 10:39of the signs dealing and stuff that happens. Last year was the second year
- 10:41for defensive coordinator Jim Knowles at Ohio State, but the first one for James
- 10:45Laura and I is working under Jim Noles. So what's something he learned from
- 10:48Jim Knowles last fall? Seeing how how Jim calls a game and his thought
- 10:54process is fascinating because he really is brilliant with how I mean when you go
- 11:01back and sell Scott on when he made certain calls against certain formations and you're
- 11:05like, my goodness, this guy is on, you know, with with
- 11:09what he's deciding to call. I think just being with him Tim for the
- 11:13whole year, you got to see how he approached the game. You got
- 11:16to see kind of his expectations. And then I think with with someone like
- 11:22Jim, like when you don't know, you got to ask a question kind
- 11:26of like what he's looking for. But I think you just you know when
- 11:30you're one where you're getting to know somebody and you're working with them, and
- 11:31then now it's like, Okay, I know what he expects. And so
- 11:35I think there's just experience that has been that has been very fruitful and I'm
- 11:39I think, you know, I'll be better for it this year having been
- 11:43through a full season with him. Even before he was one of the ten
- 11:46countable coaches, you already heard that James Lorinidis was really having an impact in
- 11:50recruiting. Was a key piece in landing a couple significant linebackers for Ohighest State
- 11:54over the last year. So he's already had some input in recruiting even before
- 11:58taking on full time linebacker coaching position. Is it now just his call who
- 12:03they recruit? He doesn't just have input, it's his decision. Here's what
- 12:07he had to say about that yeah, I think. I think yes.
- 12:13So when you go in there and make the board, yeah, you're you're
- 12:16ranking them the way you see them. And coach Day has always said that,
- 12:20like you're the head coach of your position, you're the one in charge
- 12:24to each of us, and so with the title comes that responsibility. So
- 12:28I think the reaction, I'll tell you what it's It's nice to be able
- 12:31to tell them now that I can know like I am the linebacker coach,
- 12:35I don't just coach the linebackers because there's a difference there. I've had that
- 12:37used against me over the last year, quite honestly, to where parents or
- 12:43recruits have said essentially like how do I know you're going to be there?
- 12:50I won't name names, but other schools have said, hey, he's not
- 12:52even gonna be there, he's gonna have to leave to get a full time
- 12:54role, and so you kind of have to navigate that not anymore thankfully,
- 13:00but I mean, when you're here, you don't like I don't. I
- 13:07try to be in an ambassador of Ohio State. I love this school.
- 13:09It's changed my life. It's done wonders for me and my family to play
- 13:16here. Recruit your position at the school you went to, at the place
- 13:20that you love. It's so natural, and so you know when you're explaining
- 13:26it to people like I'm sure there are some coaches have to come off as
- 13:28car salesmen like or ain't none of that because I've lived it, and I
- 13:33think that's a huge benefit. When you're talking to young people trying to convince
- 13:37them to come to your school, It's like, this is what it differ
- 13:39for me, and the fact that I'm not from Ohio, I give another
- 13:43that's a whole other perspective when you're talking to kids not from Ohio. But
- 13:48now that I've been through here and the brotherhood was obviously accepting me and buck
- 13:52a nation is so incredible. It's like there's a reason why I'm why I'm
- 13:56here because I love this place and I want to raise my girls around this
- 14:01place because of how special it is and how it changed my life, and
- 14:03I know what it can change all these other young men's lives. And finally,
- 14:09a great question here and an even better answer. James Flord and I
- 14:11has had a long and storied career in the NFL, made a whole lot
- 14:16of money. He could very easily just go play golf for the rest of
- 14:18his life, or go sit on a beach or whatever he wants to do.
- 14:20So what is it that makes him want to be a college football coach
- 14:24with all the weird hours and travel that comes with that. It's a really
- 14:28hard moment when you watch film and you're like, Okay, I need to
- 14:31do X y Z and then a don's on you. My body can't do
- 14:35X y Z anymore. That's hard to come to grips with when you love
- 14:39the game so much. And so since fourth grade, I've been told when
- 14:43practices what lifts to do. Your life's kind of been mapped out around this
- 14:48game that you love and you're obsessed with since fourth grade for eight months.
- 14:52It took me a while to really I don't know if bitterness is the right
- 14:56word, just almost like a frustration that you couldn't participate in the game you
- 14:58loved it anymore. After I decided to retire, so I tried to figure
- 15:03out, like what else really interests you? And then dawned on me after
- 15:05eight months, like your love is football, Like your major was football?
- 15:09Like yes, I have a degree in communications, I used it doing radio
- 15:13and TV, but my first love has always been football, so I felt
- 15:18like the PhD was in that, and so I was like, Okay.
- 15:20At first, that's why I got in the media. I wanted to be
- 15:22around the game. And then once I was in media, I felt myself
- 15:26getting fired up whenever I did the coaches interviews, and I just asked myself
- 15:31one off season, I'm like, I think I was getting to be thirty
- 15:33five years old. I'm like, if you don't jump into this, you
- 15:37might look back and really regret it. And so once I jumped into it,
- 15:41I knew it was the right thing to do. I think a lot
- 15:43of it is because I love young people, so I want to see young
- 15:46people get to live their dream out like I was able to. I joke
- 15:50all the time there's a three star from Minnesota, but really, like my
- 15:52singular focus was just I'm gonna keep playing football until they don't let me anymore.
- 15:56And when you come to a place like Ohio State, whether you're blessed
- 16:00to play five years here and that's it, or whether you're blessed to play
- 16:03ten years in the league like this town and this fan base, if you
- 16:07treat it right, will take care of you for life, and it becomes
- 16:11your family. And so I think, as I dealt kind of in media
- 16:15and then I jumped in the coaching, it was like, this is obvious,
- 16:19this is obvious. You love the game of football, you love young
- 16:22people. And I felt the coaches that I played for, Luke Fickle,
- 16:26Jim Tressel, Steve Spagnola, the Chiefs, they were all great developers of
- 16:32men as well and probably the three most impactful men in my life outside of
- 16:37my father. So the thought that I could hopefully be that to somebody else,
- 16:44I think is what gets me up every morning, you know. And
- 16:45I tell a lot of these recruits like, yes, I want to be
- 16:48there with you in the green room when Goodell calls your name, right,
- 16:52Like that's a lot of these kids want to get developed. But I also
- 16:53hope that these men call me when they decide to get engaged someday or get
- 16:59married and they're like, hey, coach, I want you there. Because
- 17:00that's the kind of relationship that I have with Luke Fickle, this kind of
- 17:04relationship I have with Spags is that they were it was more than just ball,
- 17:08and so I think that's why I wake up and I attack it every
- 17:12day. Well that will do it for today again, you will hear be
- 17:15hearing more from James Lorinidis in a couple of days. He had some great
- 17:18stuff to say about some of the Buckey's younger players, some of the guys
- 17:21who might be impact players coming out of the spring, and much much more.
- 17:25Get that on Sunday. You have that to look forward to over the
- 17:27weekend. We also have a full spring to look forward to at bucke huddle
- 17:32dot com, where Tony, Kevin and I cover the team, Mark covers
- 17:33recruiting. We're going our whole team of exits and those gurus making you a
- 17:37smarter football fan all at bucke huddle dot com. We hope to see you
- 17:41there. Thank you guys all for joining us. Have a great day.
- 17:42We will talk to you tomorrow