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The Late Debate | 21 August · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the water Plains.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Joe Hildebrand coming up.
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  Speaker 3: The Democrats are always talking about how we need to
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  Speaker 3: reduce emissions, So why did Kamala Harris order her pilot
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  Speaker 3: to circle above the airport for an extra fifteen minutes?
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  Speaker 3: Climate hypocrisy coming up later. Plus we'll look at what's
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  Speaker 3: making news tomorrow. Victorian schools abandoning competitive sport because they
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  Speaker 3: say it's not good for children. And the front page
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  Speaker 3: of Tomorrow's Australian demonstrates just how much the cost of
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  Speaker 3: living is starting to bite. People are apparently eating a
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  Speaker 3: lot less chicken. We'll talk about what that means a
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  Speaker 3: little later as well, but first. The Church of England
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  Speaker 3: is increasingly avoiding using the word church to describe itself,
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  Speaker 3: preferring more modern terms such as community. A report published
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  Speaker 3: in the Telegraph found that none of almost nine hundred
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  Speaker 3: churches begun in England over the past decade had advertised
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  Speaker 3: themselves as a church. Instead, they promoted themselves as a
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  Speaker 3: community congregation, a place of worship, but not a church.
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  Speaker 3: Research has concluded, after interviewing church leaders that their reluctance
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  Speaker 3: to use the word church sprang from and I quote
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  Speaker 3: a misplaced desire to be relevant and modern sounding. One
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  Speaker 3: particular vicar, doctor Jarles Fraser from Saint Anne's in Q,
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  Speaker 3: told The Telegraph the church has given up on church.
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  Speaker 3: Not since Prince became Squiggle has there been such a
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  Speaker 3: daft revision.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I've got to say he is one vicar whose sermons
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  Speaker 3: I think I would enjoy.
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  Speaker 2: But somebody needs.
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  Speaker 3: To let the geniuses at the Church of England know
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  Speaker 3: that when you walter it down your identity in order
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  Speaker 3: to be more inclusive, you don't get more members, You
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  Speaker 3: just lose your identity. What are they going to do next?
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  Speaker 3: Change Christ to Chris in order to be more relatable
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  Speaker 3: to the common man. And maybe the problem is not
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  Speaker 3: branding with the Church of England. Maybe it's the people
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  Speaker 3: leading it. They're doing less theology and a lot more sociology.
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  Speaker 3: If you want the BBC, then you stay at home.
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  Speaker 3: But if you want the church, you're supposed to go.
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  Speaker 2: To the c of E.
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  Speaker 3: I think, Liz, one of the problems here is that
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  Speaker 3: some parts of the church have abandoned the Christian teaching
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  Speaker 3: of faith, hope and love, in favor of the work diversity,
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  Speaker 3: equity and inclusion. There's a prominent journalist in this country
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  Speaker 3: who I was talking to recently just started going to
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  Speaker 3: church and I said, how are you finding it? And
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  Speaker 3: he said frustrating And I said, oh why and he said,
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  Speaker 3: because it's like sitting and listening to someone read an
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  Speaker 3: article from the Guardian. He said, I've gone to church
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  Speaker 3: expecting to be offended.
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  Speaker 2: Because this is what he reasoned.
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  Speaker 3: If God is God and I'm not, then God will
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  Speaker 3: probably have some opinions that conflict with mine, so I'm
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  Speaker 3: expecting to hear them. And I go to church every
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  Speaker 3: week and I'm not challenged. I'm not convicted. I don't
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  Speaker 3: disagree with anything, and so I'm wondering what's the point.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was a very insightful comment.
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  Speaker 4: Yet a real church brother. I don't know what you're attending,
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  Speaker 4: but that ain't it.
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  Speaker 5: My dad is a minister and he used to always say,
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  Speaker 5: if you leave my church and you have not been challenged,
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  Speaker 5: I have failed in my charge to you. I'm just
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  Speaker 5: glad the Church of England has enough awareness to disqualify.
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  Speaker 4: Themselves as a church. Thanks for your honesty.
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  Speaker 5: You're not calling yourself a church anymore good one I
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  Speaker 5: cannot stand. And it's not just the Church of England,
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  Speaker 5: but these it's usually older blokes trying to be kip,
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  Speaker 5: trying to be cool.
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  Speaker 4: Oh let's call ourselves a community. Let's call ourselves a club.
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  Speaker 5: You can call yourself whatever you want. The Gospel is
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  Speaker 5: the best news in the world. It does not need
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  Speaker 5: your lame trimmings. And in this world full of nothingness,
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  Speaker 5: people are being told that nothing means anything. Your religion,
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  Speaker 5: the nation from which you hail, from, your creed, your ethnicity,
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  Speaker 5: you're very gender, it's all meaningless.
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  Speaker 4: People want bold truth.
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  Speaker 5: And they like the guy that that story breaks my heart,
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  Speaker 5: they come to church, they come to the House of
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  Speaker 5: God to be like, all right, what have you got
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  Speaker 5: to offer? And you've got these limp wristed losers in
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  Speaker 5: Pulpits just spouting platitudes.
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  Speaker 4: That is not the gospel. That is not what Jesus
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  Speaker 4: would be saying were he be.
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  Speaker 5: Jesus's ministry is littered with offended people.
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  Speaker 4: That's how we ended up on a cross.
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  Speaker 5: So to past us these days who simply just stand
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  Speaker 5: there every Sunday and give some mamby pamby sermon that's
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  Speaker 5: usually taken way out of context. They have a degree
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  Speaker 5: in biblical studies, so I'm a little bit passionate about that,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm sitting there going this sermon is the most
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  Speaker 5: hermeneutically unsound thing I've ever heard in my entire life.
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  Speaker 4: But bless you for trying, if you even tried.
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  Speaker 5: They are trying aim to make Christianity this weak, whimpy nonsense,
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  Speaker 5: to make it palatable, and that is the exact opposite
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  Speaker 5: of what Jesus taught. Who Jesus was and what he
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  Speaker 5: would have in our pulpits every Sunday. That story encapsulates
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  Speaker 5: exactly what I'm talking about. And in a world lost
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  Speaker 5: and desperately in need of Christ, that.
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  Speaker 4: That just encapsulates it perfectly. Went looking and was like,
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  Speaker 4: what even is this?
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  Speaker 3: The tragedy is when the UK needs the Church the most,
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  Speaker 3: the church is trying to be something other than the church.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure there's many mosques in the UK, Joe,
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  Speaker 3: that are pretending to be something other than a mosque,
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  Speaker 3: although mosques are increasingly taking over abandoned churches in the UK.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this is the interesting thing, right, it is still
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  Speaker 1: the Church of England that's right. If they're not the
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  Speaker 1: word church, they're just the of England. Or are they
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  Speaker 1: going to get all cool and it's just going to
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  Speaker 1: be like England exclamation.
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  Speaker 2: No no, no, no, it's going to be worse than that.
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  Speaker 3: It's of England, right, But then they're going to realize no, no,
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  Speaker 3: England is a racist country.
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  Speaker 1: It's just going to be of Yeah. I think I
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  Speaker 1: think there's a lot of Obviously I disagree with the
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  Speaker 1: Church of England's right to even exist, So as far
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  Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, this is a good step. And the
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  Speaker 1: Eight should never have broken with Rome. It did it
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  Speaker 1: for purely selfish and very distinctly Unchristian reasons, and he
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  Speaker 1: should never been allowed to do so. But given that
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  Speaker 1: that's happened, I think you have to kind of accept
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  Speaker 1: at some point either it's religion or it's not. Either
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  Speaker 1: it's Christianity or it's not. So again, you have to
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  Speaker 1: be And I'm a Catholic obviously, although I have to
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  Speaker 1: work on some I'm very bad Catholics. I now have
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  Speaker 1: to work on Sunday. So I haven't been to mass
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  Speaker 1: in ages, and we call it mass by the way
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  Speaker 1: people call it church proddies you're going to hell anyway.
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  Speaker 1: The point. The point is, I suppose the reason I
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  Speaker 1: love it is because, like that the colleague you mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: is that it's so steeped in history, it's so steeped
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  Speaker 1: in tradition, and there I find it just so incredible
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  Speaker 1: that there is a direct line to ideas that people
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  Speaker 1: have been talking about and wrestling with for thousands of
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  Speaker 1: years and more than two thousand years in the case
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  Speaker 1: of Christianity, and then the Old Testament thousands of thousand
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  Speaker 1: years or more more. And it is not fixed, is
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  Speaker 1: not set in stone. There is you know, it has evolved,
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  Speaker 1: it has always evolved. Ideas of what you do as
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  Speaker 1: a Christian and what it means have evolved in terms
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  Speaker 1: of ethnicity in nation states. That's got nothing to do
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  Speaker 1: with Christianity. In fact, Paul went around preaching that it
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  Speaker 1: was absolutely the antithesis of that. It didn't matter you know,
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  Speaker 1: a man, woman, child, who were all one in Christ Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't matter where you come from or who you were.
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  Speaker 1: But of course there were disagreements in the Early Church
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  Speaker 1: with that as well. Some people are saying, no, you
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  Speaker 1: have to be a Jew to be an early Christian.
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  Speaker 1: So this is and I having to be reading a
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  Speaker 1: book about early Christianity even as we speak. But it's
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  Speaker 1: amazing to see how these people are coming together and
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  Speaker 1: trying to grapple with what Jesus was saying. Obviously, Matthew
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  Speaker 1: in the Gospel of Matthew he says, we cannot throw
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  Speaker 1: pearls before swine. So Jesus speaks in allegories, and he
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  Speaker 1: speaks in parables so that people have to think about
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  Speaker 1: it to try and get what he's saying. So there
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  Speaker 1: are just what rabbis.
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  Speaker 4: Did that is a very that was the way that
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  Speaker 4: they taught. So it wasn't like, oh, he's.
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  Speaker 5: Trying to be crypto, because Jesus speaking in the lanth.
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  Speaker 1: And there are also things that a farmer of that
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  Speaker 1: a farmer of that time or a peasant of that
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  Speaker 1: time would have immediately understood exactly what he's talking about.
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  Speaker 1: And we're going mustard seed, what's a mustard seed? So
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  Speaker 1: but again, so it is evolvement, and that's part of
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  Speaker 1: the good of it. But again that doesn't mean you
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  Speaker 1: can just and it comes back to the Reformation, that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can just say no, I've decided. It
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  Speaker 1: means all this and now that that's it, and because
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  Speaker 1: that's where sort of I suppose fundamentalism lies. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: being a bit sort of tongue in cheek, but again,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for me saying that, you know, well, church
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  Speaker 1: isn't church anymore. This doesn't have anything to do with
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  Speaker 1: it or whatever. And I have many disagreements with the
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  Speaker 1: Catholic Church It's values on things that abortion and HOMOSEXVID
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  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Eventually it comes around, just like
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  Speaker 1: it eventually acknowledged that the Sun was the center of
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  Speaker 1: the fault solar system and not the Earth. But but
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  Speaker 1: but you can't just kind of make it up as
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  Speaker 1: you go. You can't just sort of pretend either it's
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  Speaker 1: either it sits in that tradition and yes it evolves,
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  Speaker 1: or it's just something else.
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  Speaker 2: It's what was really interesting to me. So do you
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  Speaker 2: want to pick.
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  Speaker 4: What do you mean by evolving?
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  Speaker 5: Because I can read you the scriptures and the original
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  Speaker 5: Greek and Hebrew like it means what it has always meant,
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  Speaker 5: or do you mean these different churches traditions?
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  Speaker 1: Where is it? Where does it have the it is?
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  Speaker 1: It is? The church evolves completely differently after the scriptures.
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  Speaker 1: There are things that the scriptures do not address. And
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  Speaker 1: there are things like the Nicene Creed, which the entire
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  Speaker 1: Christian Church across Western Europe.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, there's outliers. Scriptures especially not a script.
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  Speaker 1: That was a conference. That was a conference called by
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  Speaker 1: the Emperor Constantine, who said, right, what is this, what
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  Speaker 1: does it mean? So, for example, is Jesus.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not having an argument about the canon, what made
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  Speaker 4: it in? Made it in?
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  Speaker 1: But what this is this is after the canonasically already
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  Speaker 1: been decided. And people say, all right, well, there you
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  Speaker 1: had different bishops all around the ancient world arguing over
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  Speaker 1: whether Jesus was the son of God or whether he
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  Speaker 1: was also God himself. And that turns into the nice
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  Speaker 1: Scene Creed, which is what you recite Toginches, which basically
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  Speaker 1: puts this whole thing together. Is you know, God of God,
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  Speaker 1: from God like from light, true God, from true God, begotten,
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  Speaker 1: not made, the only son of the Father, consubstantial with
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  Speaker 1: the Father. So there's all this stuff. So there's all
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  Speaker 1: this stuff that people are trying to get their heads around,
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  Speaker 1: which is not spelt out in the Bible. And there
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  Speaker 1: are contradictory things in the Bible. There's no you know,
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  Speaker 1: bits in the Bible, where you know the ass in
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  Speaker 1: the Nativity scene, does it exist? A lot of this
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  Speaker 1: comes from later traditions that are a.
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  Speaker 5: Bdly of sateriological importance, really selviffic whether they're okay.
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  Speaker 1: There are a lot of theologians and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: theologist historians will say that it is very unlikely that
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  Speaker 1: there was an original kind of Eucharist in the Bible. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: But rather than get into all the theological debate, in
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  Speaker 3: interested me was when Queen Elizabeth I died this largely
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  Speaker 3: self declared secular state where nobody believes in anything and
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  Speaker 3: when you die, that's it. And yet people were transfixed,
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  Speaker 3: particularly by her funeral, which didn't try to modernize. It
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  Speaker 3: had all the tradition but also the Bible references and
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  Speaker 3: the spirituality of it, and people around the world were
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  Speaker 3: transfixed by it and greatly moved by it. And I
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  Speaker 3: thought there was an interesting lesson to people who think
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  Speaker 3: you've got to have the latest and greatest and belles
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  Speaker 3: on everything, and you've got to change the message to.
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  Speaker 2: Suit the culture.
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  Speaker 3: The culture's actually looking for a message that is timeless.
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  Speaker 3: Because everything is fads, everything is immediate. People are looking
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  Speaker 3: for something that has stood the test of time, and
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  Speaker 3: that is actually not timely but beyond the times, which
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  Speaker 3: if God exists, then his message is not just for
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  Speaker 3: the times, it actually exists beyond the times. And I
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  Speaker 3: thought her funeral was a great demonstration of people's appetite
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  Speaker 3: for that in a world that offers very little that's
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  Speaker 3: fixed or sold.
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  Speaker 1: Here Jesus. Jesus also existed before he was born, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, that's another part of the creed, of course,
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  Speaker 1: the all time he could be God. That's right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's right.
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  Speaker 4: Let me tell you about that never deviated.
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  Speaker 5: This church is completely and utterly based, and that is the.
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  Speaker 4: Russian Orthodox Church. We're changing topics, but we're rarely this
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  Speaker 4: is still.
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  Speaker 5: Recognized as the national religion.
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  Speaker 4: The vast majority of Russians will tell you, yeah, we're
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  Speaker 4: Russian Orthodox.
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  Speaker 5: It's who we are, it's what we do, and it's
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  Speaker 5: to that that Russia owes a lot of its underlying values.
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  Speaker 5: You can't go to Russia and find seventy five different genders.
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  Speaker 4: They simply don't play that game.
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  Speaker 5: Puton is always outspoken saying, sure, we've got twenty six
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  Speaker 5: million Muslims here, but minorities need us We don't need minorities.
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  Speaker 4: We do not change our laws for you. If you
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  Speaker 4: like law, stay in the countries where sharia law is.
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  Speaker 5: Anyway, as Russia has been watching the Western world trip
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  Speaker 5: over itself, trying to define simple things.
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  Speaker 4: Like hmm, what is a woman?
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  Speaker 5: Putin has decided to put a call out to those
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  Speaker 5: of us who are sick and tired of this cultural Marxism,
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  Speaker 5: neoliberalism taking over in our governments, in our schools, universities.
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  Speaker 4: He's like, hey, do you wanna come to Russia?
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  Speaker 5: Knowing from this article today, after a degree signed by
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  Speaker 5: President Vladimir Putin, Russia is relaxing temporary residence requirements for
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  Speaker 5: foreign citizens wishing to escape quote destructive neoliberal ideas which
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  Speaker 5: run counter to traditional Russian spiritual.
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  Speaker 4: And moral values.
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  Speaker 5: Say what you will about the current situation or what
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  Speaker 5: you probably think about Putin, this is a very traditional
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  Speaker 5: country and it shows in their values.
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  Speaker 4: Given we were.
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  Speaker 5: Talking about, well, reproductive rights recently, babies born alive.
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  Speaker 4: Will get to that shortly.
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  Speaker 5: Russia's this is reflected even in their abortion laws illegal
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  Speaker 5: and if it's over twelve weeks, and anyone who performs
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  Speaker 5: an abortion in Russia has to try their hardest to convince.
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  Speaker 4: The woman we have supports for you. You don't have
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  Speaker 4: to go through with this.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, when the Home Secretary back in the US
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  Speaker 5: told Americans earlier this year, for obvious reasons, do not
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  Speaker 5: go to Russia under any circumstances, some American joker expats
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  Speaker 5: in Russia decided to take it upon themselves to say, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's terrible here.
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  Speaker 4: You shouldn't come for some of the following reasons.
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  Speaker 6: One reason why you definitely shouldn't come to Russia is
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  Speaker 6: that we have family values here. A mother is called
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  Speaker 6: a mother and a father is called a father, and
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  Speaker 6: as we know now in the US, that's a bad thing.
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  Speaker 6: You definitely shouldn't come to Russia because we're a dictatorship.
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  Speaker 6: Looting is not allowed, so if you loot, unlike in
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  Speaker 6: the US, in Russia, you'll get persecuted.
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  Speaker 7: If you come to Russia and you commit a crime,
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  Speaker 7: you will get prosecuted, and that is bad.
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  Speaker 2: So you probably don't want to come to Russia.
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  Speaker 6: If you enjoy heaps of trash and rats all over
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  Speaker 6: the downtown areas of your cities, then you should definitely
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  Speaker 6: not come to Russia because you'll be missing that here.
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  Speaker 4: The video goes on and on and on.
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  Speaker 5: It's very jovabile, But I love the point that they
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  Speaker 5: make because you never know how much of what we're
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  Speaker 5: fed here in the West is pure propaganda.
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  Speaker 3: As opposed to Russia, where everything is true and prota
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  Speaker 3: is something you can absolutely take every.
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  Speaker 5: Word is you genuinely think it's funny though, that we
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  Speaker 5: in the West think that we're subjected to less propaganda.
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  Speaker 4: It's simply true.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think get a price for pointing out that
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  Speaker 3: the West is in big trouble, and so points to
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  Speaker 3: Putin for pointing out we've got a lot of problems
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  Speaker 3: in the West. But Joe, surely the West is still
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  Speaker 3: preferable to Vladimir Putin's Russia, as wonderful parts of it
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  Speaker 3: might be.
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  Speaker 1: At least in the West you have a choice of propaganda.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know, You don't just have to listen to whatever.
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  Speaker 5: I have a choice of propaganda.
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  Speaker 1: If you're gonna call it, if you're gone, you know
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  Speaker 1: that's not you're gonna call it propaganda. If you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: call it propaganda. At least there is diversity. There's a
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  Speaker 1: range of things. If you if you want to tell
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  Speaker 1: me that Fox News and CNN and MSNBC and the
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  Speaker 1: New York Times and the New York Post are all
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  Speaker 1: saying exactly the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: Could those guys have stood in Red Square and just
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  Speaker 3: mouthed off at Putin and talked about how corrupt he is,
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  Speaker 3: how he riggs elections. Could they have stood in the
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  Speaker 3: middle of Red Square and talked about, Oh, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Malaysian Flight m H one seven, where thirty eight Australians
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  Speaker 3: lost their lives and Russia refuses to have anything to
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  Speaker 3: do with.
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  Speaker 5: It is clearly tripping all over itself and looking weaker
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  Speaker 5: by the day, especially on to the Biden administration, and
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: all US Western countries look to America.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: US we're the top dog.
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: However you're going is really a reflection of how we
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: are going, whether you're talking about the economy, whether you're
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: talking about our military might. Meanwhile, the Axis Powers we
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: always talk about China as well, laughing at us, laughing
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: at the state of our military, because they're more concerned
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: with gbt IQ issue.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Teleman, So you think we should, I just think I'm
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: not talking.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: About abolishing anything. I just know, if anything, this is
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: the biggest troll by Putin because he's like, I agree
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: with that ing. You guys are in big trouble.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: So by the way I'm making he made literal allowances
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: for visas people from the West who are like, actually,
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: maybe we can give it a go and flee these
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: turning husts Western democracy.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: He's like, open arms, you sanct troll.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: But it also is something he clearly feels is necessary
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: to do, and it feels it's necessary to do for
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: the same reason why the US s R and the
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Eastern Bloc countries are stagnated during the Cold War, which
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: is that a country that does not have migration, a
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: country that does not happen twenty six immigrants immigration. No,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: they were in the former Soviet Union as well, it's.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: There.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: But the point being, point being that if you have
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: if you don't have enough people coming to a country,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: it's stagnates because you're not bringing in the latest ideas,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the latest technology, the latest skills. That is why the
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: economy of East Germany stagnated and was a basket case,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: while the economy of West Germany went gangbusters. And so
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: so again, this is the real story. The real story
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: that is happening here is that Putent wants higher levels
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: of immigration. You're welcome, and he'd.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Rather than from the West, unlike we in the West,
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: who are more than happy to just be like, oh,
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: any culture, any creed one down where Like what was
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: it the headline just a couple of weeks ago, Like
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: one in three Aussies weren't born here?
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: I mean that has a little massive What is wrong
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: with that? I like my culture.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: The thing is.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: I can point out what's wrong with the North Melbourne
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: football team. It doesn't mean they should make me the coach.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Putin can point out what's wrong with the West, doesn't
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: mean you should go and live under his regime. The
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: American election is getting interesting. The DNC, of course, is continuing.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: We'll talk about that in a moment. But of particular
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: interest was the comment today by Robert F. Kennedy, Junior's
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: running mate, that he may consider dropping out of where
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: he is and supporting Donald Trump. Have listened to his
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: running mate Nicole Shanahan contemplating that very idea.
• 19:47
  Speaker 8: There's two options that we're looking at, and one is
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: staying in forming that new party. But we run the
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: risk of a Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris and Waltz presidency
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: because we draw votes from Trump, or we draw some
• 20:05
  Speaker 8: how more votes from Trump, or we walk away right
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: now and join forces with Donald Trump.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: So'd be fascinating if they joined forces with Trump. Who
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: was asked what he thought of the idea?
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: And I asked you about RKA, because just moments ago
• 20:25
  Speaker 9: his running mates that they're considering endorsing you.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: Have you considered him for a rule in the administration
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: and what role would that be?
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: Well, we haven't, but I would love that endorsement because
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: I've always liked him.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: You would you also consider putting him in the administration?
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: You're asking me a very unusual question.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: I haven't beenessed that question yet.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: I like him a lot, I respect.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: Him a lot. I probably would if something.
• 20:47
  Speaker 10: Like that would happen.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: You know, he's a very different kind of a guy,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: very smart.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Boy, And yeah, I would be honored by that endorsement.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Certainly be a great propaganda coupe, Liz if RFK came
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: over to Trump. But how much difference would it make
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: to his votes in certain states?
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Probably significant? I mean RFK his wild card.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: He's been running as an independent, and his VP in
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: this interview today was actually quite emotional because both of them,
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: both Kennedy and herself have been hardcore Dems their entire lives,
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: but had to go independent because the party was not
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: going to endorse him, and so they went independent, and
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: they have copped it from the Dems.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Trump has seen law fair, but so have they.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: They say that they've even had moles placed in their
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: campaigns who are leaking information back to the DNC.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: All sorts of untoward things have happened. They've tried to
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: be many of them.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: They were trying to get Kennedy off the ticket in
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: several states, unsuccessfully, thank goodness. But they've reached a point
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: obviously where they've realized, we don't want to not be
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: a part of the Trump campaign. It's rumored that this
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: will happen on potentially Friday. Trump's got a big event
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: in LA, so it's strong rumors.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: We'll see, if my solves is arecorrect.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: That he will actually make this official as early as Friday,
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: which of course is why they're leaking it. This is
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: his VP pick, Kennedy's VP pick, so she wouldn't be
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: saying this if there wasn't a very real possibility that
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: that will be happening in the coming days. But it's
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: definitely interesting because one does wonder if they were taking
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: votes from the Dems, is this now going.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: To cost them?
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Will Dems now no longer vote for them?
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: Because the many Dems who feel homeless with regards to
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: a party as well, they don't like the current administration,
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: and so on the other hand, you've got hardcore Dems
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: who will always vote for a Kennedy by virtue of
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: having the life name.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: I think it would affect the Trump campaign in a
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: very positive way personally.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Do you reckon Joe? Yeah, it's an interesting one. I
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: And this I think was from when it was still
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: between Trump and Biden, but I'd heard that I read somewhere,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I think that that rfk's votes were coming about sixty
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: forty from Democrats, and so that was I suppose probably
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: the double haters who thought Joe Biden's just a you know,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: his non compassmentor so I can't quite bring myself to
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: vote for Trump, but I'll vote for this third guy.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: But it's interesting that she said that now they are
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: drawing more support from Trump voters than from Democrats. So
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the simple laws of mathematics suggest that that would benefit Trump. Obviously,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: and you know, we're seeing I think Paul Murray said
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: earlier this evening that things seemed to be tightening. Trump
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: seemed to be getting a little bit of a pickup.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: And again once we see you know, I said, a
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: few people have said up certainly in a line. But
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: you know, the trend with Kamala Harris tends to be
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: the more people see of her, the more they don't
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: like her. And you know her, the DNC has been
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: a great advertisement, but the data set, like the DNC
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: machine is amazing. So all these slick set pieces, the
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: ads are really incredible, and that's what's given her this massive,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: you know, come momentum. But when she is unscripted, when
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: she got you know, when she when she doesn't have
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: the teleprompter, when she starts spitballing about you know how
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the economy works, because it all just pays for itself
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: in a debate environment, in a non friendly fire media environment,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: in a press conference, you know, who knows what might happen.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: And so obviously the last thing you want is to
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: know that you know, you're bleeding hand more votes to
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: a third party candidate than your opponent is. So yeah,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: bye bye, RFK.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: If RFK is going to go to Trump, Liz, he
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: has to do it better than last time when Trump
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: phoned him and they had a private conversation leaks, So
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: maybe he doesn't want to repeat of.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: That blow blow.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: Well, it seems like they've kissed and made up, because
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: if Trump's actually seriously saying I wouldn't not consider him
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: for a position in my administration, that's not something that
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: I think Kevan Trump would say very lightly to the DNC.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: Now it was day two most recently.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: I get a bit mixed up because they have them
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: at night and it's always our day. But I have.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: Subjected myself to watching the entire two nights so that
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: you didn't have to. And can I just say you're
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: not missing out on anything except for a whole heap
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: of this.
• 25:34
  Speaker 11: My name is doctor Joey Brella pronounced she her Hers.
• 25:38
  Speaker 11: I'm a crowd president of the Garden Shape. I'm proud
• 25:42
  Speaker 11: to stand with Tamala Harris and Tim Wall because they
• 25:45
  Speaker 11: stand with the LGBTQ community. It's time to turn the
• 25:54
  Speaker 11: page on Trump.
• 25:55
  Speaker 10: Hurt.
• 25:56
  Speaker 11: Thank you.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: Even more of this, Georgia.
• 26:04
  Speaker 11: How do you catch your vote? Turn out the world?
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: Zero talk of policies, zero talk of the changes that
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: they're going to exact if they make it to the
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: White House, which is a tough gig, by the way,
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: because you've got this woman promising everyone that things are
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: going to be so much better.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: When she's in power. But you've been in power for
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: four whole years.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: It was just a month ago that the media was
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: telling us the economy is fine under Biden.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Now that Kamala is in the same media is.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: Telling us Kamala is going to the economy like there
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: are so many double dates you cannot keep up. Descartes
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: once said, I think, therefore, I am.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Watching the DNC.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: I'm convinced that there are a heck of a lot
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: of people who don't think and yet still exist.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: I wonder if that occurred to him.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: I wonder if that occurred to him before he died.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Just watching there as the States nominate to Kamala, which
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: is largely ceremonial because of course it was already done
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: before the convention. But I mean, this is the mob
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: that's been going on about. You know, democracy is precious,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: it's sacred, and yet they announced their votes with who
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: is he?
• 27:37
  Speaker 11: Little jil John?
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I hadn't heard of him, but I'm going to go
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: and buy the album.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's big now, you know.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: And they've got transgendered people announcing their pronouns before I've
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: how many people from New Jersey, do you, reckon would
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: have thought?
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah that.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I'm sure doctor Joey is lovely and she's fantastic and
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: great at whatever, and she could do whatever she wants
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: and call herself whatever she wants. But again, this is
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: where the activist base of a party is often its
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: own worst enemy and does it worst like if you
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: are trying to clearly you know, the Republicans have seized
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: on that in are circulating that, and that's where we
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: got it from and that's where we find it. But
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: but you know that is going to be where you know,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: middle Americans, possibly people who weren't planning to vote, who
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: might actually come out of faces. I don't know if
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I really I'm all on board with all that stuff.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: That seems just a bit funny to me. They probably
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: won't talk about it. They'll probably keep it to themselves.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: It'd be like the shy Trump voter we saw at
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: the last election. Even if they exist or not, which
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: is still debated. So again, you just you've got an election.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of just keeping it clean, keeping
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: it straight, keeping it down the middle, you know, even
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: keeping it boring if you have to, but just being
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: that you know, like like once you get people and
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: seen all the protesters outside that you know a mean
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: and Keller was talking about earlier, just once people say
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: if this is this basket of lunatics who Kamala Harris
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: is representing and who she's going to give power to,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: then I reckon, there's a whole bunch of people. I think, ah,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: maybe Trump's not so bad after all, And they just
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: go away and quietly, and so again this is why
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: you just got a little John here was awesome. What's
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: wrong with that?
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: We you speak about activists hijacking the event, and of
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: course we talked to think it was last night about
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: how day one, Planned Parenthood had had a truck out
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: the front of the convention. We're offering free abortions for
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: anybody who wanted to celebrate the Democratic Party and take.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Care of a little personal issue.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: And Plant Parenthood were boasting after day one that they
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: had provided ten free abortions, and apparently Liz this was
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: a wonderful thing for America.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: I just find this utterly grotesque.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: The Dems know that abortion and the unions are basically
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: all they've got to campaign on. That is their two
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: battering rams against the Trump campaign, and the amount of
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: times it feels like every second speaker that takes the
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: podium at the DNC is basically like, humanity, kill your
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: unborn children, and if in any way it's made difficult
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: for you, you're oppressed.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: And then but we've got to truck out the front.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: Massive slide of hand talking up IVF and saying how
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: pro family they are. So you want to be pro
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: overtly pro killing children in the womb while marketing yourself
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: to those brainless beings present that you're pro family.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: I was watching this in utter disbelief the fact that
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: they've also got free visectomes happening in their car park.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Had literally boasted that they were booked out. Like I
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: said last night, maybe you're doing us all a favor
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: withdrawing from the gene pool.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: If you're a male voting Democrat with.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: That is and it's not not like and again, I'm
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: pro choice, and I've had a vasectomy. Sorry, lady, how
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: can you be Catholic in proch I know, well, like
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I said, like I said, I disagree with the Church
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: number of things, but you know, again, the Church once
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: believed and locked up Galileo for saying that, you know,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: the world was not the center of the universe.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: If that's not the hell you're willing to die on,
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: you cannot call yourself any.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Form of Christian No, I don't know about that anyway.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Point being, there's a difference between that and and sort
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: of celebrating it. So there's difference between like an abortion,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: having that choice is often is often the last resort.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: It's something that most women really don't want to do,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: but would rather do that than have a baby they
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: can't support or don't want to came about through rape
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: or some other horrible thing. And again, so there's a
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: difference between that and then the crazy loonies, the extremists
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: that are going, yeah, abortions for all, here go.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: You get an abortion, You get an abortion.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: And that is also going to put a few people off.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I think there'll be a lot of people going into
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: ballot box who were nervous about abortions being illegal and
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: never being able to get access to one if God
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: forbid they needed to. That is very different to celebrating
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: running around killing fetuses.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: While the DNC is celebrat abortion. There's an interesting discussion
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: happening here in Australia about the tragic consequences of late
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: term abortions, and that is the number of children who
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: are born alive in this country after a failed abortion
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: and then simply left to die without any care, comfort
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: or love. Now, in Queensland and in Victoria, there's no
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: law requiring those present when an abortion takes place to
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: do anything for the baby if the baby survives the
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: abortion attempt, which is quite outrageous because now it's not
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: a matter of abortion, it's a matter of a living
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: human being sitting right before you. Yet it has no
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: rights though it is a human being. As I said,
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: they're right in front of you. So the CATA Party
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: in Queensland is looking to change the law to require
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: abortionists and those present to render care. They are having
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: a parliamentary inquiry at present, and a midwife of some
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: experience and it spoke to the inquiry today. It's a
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: heart wrenching testimony but describing just what happens at present
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: and why it's so wrong.
• 33:09
  Speaker 10: We've had babies born alive after terminations from fifteen to
• 33:12
  Speaker 10: twenty two weeks, born alive, gasping for air, moving and
• 33:17
  Speaker 10: having a palpable heart rate, fighting for their lives as
• 33:20
  Speaker 10: we are humans designed to do. Parents of these babies
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: who are born alive after abortion do not want to
• 33:25
  Speaker 10: see or hold them. This means the only person left
• 33:29
  Speaker 10: who could possibly hold them is a midwife or a nurse.
• 33:33
  Speaker 10: If there were a pregnancy life so someone wanted baby,
• 33:37
  Speaker 10: the mother and father would usually comfort that baby while
• 33:39
  Speaker 10: the baby was alive until they pass.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, in Canberra, Senator Ralph Babet from the United Australia Party,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: he moved a motion in the Senate yesterday asking senators
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: to agree with him that baby's born alive after a
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: failed abortion should at least be given some kind of comfort.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: I mean someone should maybe hold that child as it
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: breathes its last or put a.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Blanket on that baby to keep it warm. He's a
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: little part of his speech.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: President.
• 34:11
  Speaker 12: In this country, every single week, at least one baby
• 34:14
  Speaker 12: is born alive after a failed abortion. In some states
• 34:19
  Speaker 12: and territories, there is no legal requirement for that living
• 34:23
  Speaker 12: human being to receive any medical care. The baby is
• 34:28
  Speaker 12: often placed in a metal tray and left to die slowly.
• 34:33
  Speaker 12: I cannot President, for the life of me, understand how
• 34:37
  Speaker 12: we can bang on every single day in this place
• 34:39
  Speaker 12: about the importance of human rights while allowing the most
• 34:43
  Speaker 12: vulnerable human beings to be treated like garbage.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Now, when he got to the end of the speech,
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: this was the question. He asked senators that a baby
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: born alive after a failed abortion should, as a matter
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: of law, receive comfort and care. And do you know
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: how our Australian Senate voted. The Greens and the Labor
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: members all voted against that, and four Liberal senators also
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: voted against it. Senate Leader in South Australian Simon Birmingham,
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Victorian Jane Hume, New South Wales Senators Andrew Bragg and
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Maria Kovisik all voted No, boy, baby born alive after
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: a failed abortion should not receive, as a matter of law,
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: comfort and care.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: Our Senate is full of psychopaths, like seriously, how else?
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: What?
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: Why would anyone for any reason vote against such an obvious,
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: clear cut motion. You wouldn't treat a dog like this
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: and if you did, you'd get done for animal cruelty.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: It's that straight forward. This is downright.
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: I keep throwing around the words satanic and demonic because
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: there is no other words for this kind of evil
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: when a people are not willing to afford the we're
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: not even talking about most of these babies' lives. They're
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: no longer viable, okay, we are talking about their last
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: moments of a brief life on earth.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: The murder was unsuccessful.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: They're still alive, and we're talking about making them comfortable.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: This is what we do for our elderly, it's what
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: we do for our terminally ill, and these babies aren't afforded.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: That midwife that you shared a clip of, she broke
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: down its several instances while sharing this testimony.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: And trust me, we did not show you the worst
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: of it.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: Who are we as a society when we treat our
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: babies like that?
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: We've got to go to a break.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: But if I can just indulge our producers for a moment,
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: I've just got to show you what happened while Ralph
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Babett was speaking.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: This is how bad some of our senators are.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Have a look at what Sarah Hanson young did behind
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: him as he's speaking to this motion.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Have a look you can see there as she walks
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: behind him.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: He's asking that baby's born alive, receive care and look
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: at the face, folks at a tongue.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: That's the attitude. Anyway. On that note, we're going to
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: go to a break.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: in tomorrow's papers, including elite schools in Victoria saying no
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: to competitive sport because apparently it's not good for kids.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: That's coming up in a moment. Welcome back.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Let's take a look at what's making news in tomorrow's papers,
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: and lately the Adelaide Advertiser, I've got to say, have
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: been coming up with some great headlines. And tomorrow's headline
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Joe is no exception.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: It is an absolute banger. James Mark a flabby arm
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: fight headlights who says that nothing finn never happens in Adelaide.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Members are in revolt at the multimillion dollar next gen
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Jim adjacent to Adelaide oval over the fees, closed showers
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: and are freezing quote unquote heated pool. But hang on
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: a minute, where are the flabby arms that that's not
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: a splash, that's not a headline. One leading legal eagle
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: said members were quote up in arms, and those arms
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: are starting to get flabby. I call me cynical, call
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: me cynical, old hack, but I suspect maybe that legal
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: eagle kind a bit of a mate. Would you say
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: that you know these arms are getting a bit flabby?
• 38:21
  Speaker 10: Oh?
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, I want that, Thank you very much. Pegon.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Are you saying they wrote the headline before they invested?
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: No, do that. No, I don't even think. No. I
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: would never suggest such a thing, nor would I ever
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: suggest that any journalist ever, where ever would ever sort
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: of a nudge an interviewer or a sorcerer's story towards
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: a particular form of words, never never, never unheard of.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: They of course got the other. I don't know if
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: you wasn't really listening, I got to confessed.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: Did you read the exclusive next gen Jim junkies in
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: weighty spats? So they got they got that pun in
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: there as well. There's a lot of flabby kids in
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Victoria if schools continue with this trend of banning competitives sports.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: The front page of the Herald's Son has a story
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: that reads, no contest for sports. Victoria's most elite schools
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: are moving away from competitive sports like football and rowing
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: in favor of walking and yoga and pilates, amid a
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: landmark review in what one school source called a dumbing
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: down of aps sport. There are fears the move is
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: due to an aversion to competition in private school ETA factories.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure's just moved to Russia. I'm I'm on
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: my phone right for one of those seventeen to Moscow.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I'm coming again.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: This is an unnamed source saying it's due to an
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: aversion to competition. But God help us if we're now
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: deciding that competition is about Sport is wonderful for kids.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: As the father of teenage boys and Joe, you've got kids.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Sport is where they learn to win. It's where they
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: learn to lose. It's where they learn to persevere, it's
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: where they learn to be gracious. Sport is fair fantastic
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: for kids, and you've got to learn to win and
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: lose at some point in life. You might as well
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: learn early when the consequences are negligible. Wait until you're
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: an adult and find out, oh, losing hurts, and then
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: throw a hissy fit.
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: It's as if today's educators literally get around boardroom tables
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: and go, how else can we make them soft? Like
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: so soft they're just going to fail at life? How
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: can we make them more snowflake like? We've got our
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: safe spaces, We've got nobody offend anyone at any cost,
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: even if that's just well, the truth's offensive, so you
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: can't tell the truth. We've got these sporting bodies who
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: are now.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: Like, oh, no contact sports. We don't want anyone to
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: get hurt.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: It seems as if in every way, shape or form,
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: it's almost deliberate. They're like, how can we make these
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: kids even softly? Yesterday we were talking about the fact
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: that our security agencies are now going after misogyny and
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: high school boys, including just to quote them, traditional masculine
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: roles in society. No, no, that's up there with male supremacy.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: Excuse me, what since when has that been misogyny? Are
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: they just going to beat out of our kids every
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: little bit of tenacity, competition, get up and go type spirits.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I've got to tell you, look, I don't know much
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: about sport. I don't know one thing, and that is
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: that yoga is not a contact sport. I found that
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: out the.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Hard way as an AFL love. But this article goes
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: on to say that the AFL are watching these developments
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: because a lot of the top draft picks come from
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: these particular schools. And so with these schools saying when
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: we do less contact sport that has ramifications for the
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: AFL draft.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: That's disappointing for the boys hoping to be the next
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: big thing in the AFL. To the front page of
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: the Acambra Times, now bullying drives more women out of politics, Well,
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: if it's successfully driving you out, you don't belong there.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: In my humble opinion, independent mp have called out chauvinistic,
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: aggressive and intimidatry.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: What yeah, I think you did it?
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: Okay, thanks, behavior which they argue is driving women in
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: Australia away from public office. So there's this political dispute
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: going on. Slurs have been thrown someone's a racist, namely
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: Dutton if you believe Zali Segels. And now these teal
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: independents are coming out. It seems like they've sat around
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: a round table and decided their next hot topic is
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: misogyny and alleging that Parliament is riddled with this.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: But didn't one of the teals, like the Chief Teal
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Captain Teal also have their staffer quit their job because
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: the workplace conditions were so appalling.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: And that's true.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Isn't that strange? It's almost like what's that word? H
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: hip hop? Hip hop?
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Hip hop hip By the way, if Sarah Hanson Young
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: had been speaking in the Senate and Ralph Barbett walked
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: up behind her and made that face while.
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: She was can you imagine what is what is the misogyny,
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: the bullying them.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Bottomers hip hop hip hop record hipp hypocrisy? That's the
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: word you're looking forward tooe hell, you go much back
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: to the Great Daily Telegraph where they've got this amazing story.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I was writing the letter back tonight. This is a
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: girl was stabbed in Leicester Square in London. It's a
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: miracle she survived and we sat down with We sat
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: down the paper sat down with her and her mum
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: today and she said that she managed to pull through
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: her horrific ordeal. Right, she was stabbed in the face
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: and head awful. She managed to pull through her ordeal
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: because she'd gone to London to see Taylor Swift in
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: concert at Wembley stadium, and she knew that she had
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: to pull through so she could go and see Tato beautiful.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: But she did go and see Tatay. She went to
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: see Tatay but I think it was even like nearly
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: the day after the attack, right, and she went there
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: accompanied by the two police officers who we stirred a safety.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Did she meet Teller Swift?
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: No, she was busy.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: She really should have.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: It had been the show. I'm sure Taylor didn't know that.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe they had seats in the bleach.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: It's a nice story that last.
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: But definitely not least to the front page of the Australian.
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: Chicken takes a licking as costs Bite.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: Say, it ain't so cost of living can't be that bad.
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: Times are tough when the cheapest treat or night out
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: for a family on a Friday or Saturday, a bucket
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: of Kentucky Fried chicken or a McDonald's family dinner is
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: off the menu.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: But that's the shocking news.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: Federal MPs have been delivering apparently consumption of chicken the
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: cheapest and most popular protein for Australians. So we eat
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: fifty kilos each each a year. I was like fifty kilos,
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: that'd be about right. No, fifty kilos each a year
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: is down for the first time in decades, and falling
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: sales at KFC McDonald's is being seen as a big
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: contributing factor.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: That's because people can get it cheaper at Willis.
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: You guys need to drop your prices.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: You're no longer competitive. Sorry.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can tell you that as someone who had
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: KFC for dinner tonight, red rooster last night took a
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: bit of a break. The night before that had Hungry Jacks,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: and then the previous night also had KFC, because I
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: count hot and spicy and original recipe as two different
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: types of meal. But yeah, no, it's absolutely true. And
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: chicken only became popular in World War Two as a
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: substitute for red meat because it was easier to produce
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: and you could and so they was saying, people, don't
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: eat your red meat, leave up the soldiers or whatever,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: and you can have a look tried new delicious chicken.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Everyone went to it.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Joe Hill, we didn't go to a break.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: When we come back, Kamala Harris tells her pilot, keep flying,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: keep flying, don't.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Worry about the emissions that's coming up.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: In a moment, welcome back, Well, Joe, Kamala Harris, she's
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: the DNC is happening, everything's going.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Well, it's all happening. It's all happening. And look, you
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: spring chickens wouldn't be old enough to remember this, but
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: this story filled me with a little bit of a
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: sense of deja vu. Now, Kamala Harris, she's on the plane.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: You know, she's got the plane to herself, of course,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: air Force one and whatever it is. She's cruising around
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: and then suddenly what should pop on the box but
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: her very own husband giving a speech at the Democratic
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: National Convention. But she's on the plane, of course, and
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: the plane's about to come into land.
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: So what do you do. Well, of course, like anyone else,
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: you tell the pilot to keep flying in the air
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: until your husband's finished talking on the television so you
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: can watch him. I mean, it's just common sense. Have
• 46:59
  Speaker 7: a listen.
• 47:01
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, the Vice President was returning to Chicago
• 47:03
  Speaker 9: after having campaigned in Milwaukee earlier in the day, and
• 47:07
  Speaker 9: she was on Air Force two when her husband, Doug M. Hart,
• 47:10
  Speaker 9: the Second Gentleman, began speaking at the convention. So the
• 47:13
  Speaker 9: plane actually circles for an extra fifteen minutes were told
• 47:17
  Speaker 9: in this guy so she could finish watching his speech.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: There you go, And of course I misspokes. He was
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: on air Force two because air Force one can only
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: be air Force one if the president's on it. So
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: even if the president is on one of those little bicycles,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: you know, with a little flappy wingsing, that becomes air
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Force one because it's the prayers. One president who was
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: on air Force one was of course Bill Clinton, when
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: he infamously in nineteen ninety three was accused of holding
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: up air traffic at LIX Los Angeles International Airport so
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: he could get a cut a haircut.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: Well, he was on board air Force.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: One, that's right, So he was on board air Force one.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: He was getting a haircut, and he kept it was on,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: it was landed on the time, and it was holding
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: up flights apparently because his hairdresser, who was called Christoph
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: I kid you not, had not finished giving his haircut.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: And in fact, I think George Sephanopolis even came out
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: and had to defend because he tries to make it
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: like it's something everybody does. Goes, oh, well, we all
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: have to get haircuts, don't we, you know, like we
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: have to get haircuts, and this was the only time
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: that he could do it. It's like, we don't all
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: have to get haircuts on Air Force one on the time? Mate?
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Do you reckon everyone on the commercial flights?
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: You know when they say it's delayed, but they never
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: give you the real reason.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: It would have delayed you to bad But it's delayed
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: girl problem. It laid you to a presidential head.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: They wouldn't have said the presidential haircut.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: It ended up being called it was a scan. It
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: was absolutely huge, and it was a scan, and it
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: was called hair gate.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: It really really was, and it was That's the epitome
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: of entitlement right right.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: And there was even a character in The Simpsons who
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: was late to save some money as I really shouldn't
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: have stopped for that haircut.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Well, that's all we've got time for tonight. Thanks for
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: your company stick around. Coming up is the Depending the
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Shock
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: H