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Justin Herbert Has Been Way Worse Than The Guy That The NFL Blackballed, Just Saying · The Regulars

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  Just maybe the drunkest NFL weekend of football I've
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  ever seen. And I do mean the play on the field, not me, but also
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  me, because what we did on Friday night after your birthday party. Also,
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  the Dodgers might not be ruining baseball after all.
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  And Adam Schefter, holy shit, you got some fucking explaining to
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  do. Ladies and gentlemen, you're amongst friends. We're The Regulars. I'm Cody
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  Decker. I'm Tanya Ray Fox. And no matter what I say today, please remember,
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  I actually do really love football.
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  We've made it yet again to another week. I don't know
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  how. I think AI is coming for everyone. Our jobs, our lives,
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  you name it. Data centers are on the way, although there's less Russian bots out
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  there all of a sudden. That's been funny to follow. And congratulations
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  to our new press secretary who will likely be in this job within
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  10 days. Tanya, you do fit a look. What do you say about becoming
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  our new press secretary? I think they should let me
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  do it. I think they should, too. I think— listen, if I could con
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  my way in there, if I hadn't talked so much shit already on the internet,
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  I really think I could have gotten the job and I could have caused at
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  least, at least one day's worth of mayhem that
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  I think would really be— it could really upset the entire balance of everything we're
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  dealing with in the United States. I'm just saying that, like, I think you could
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  infiltrate. I think it'd be good because look at— look, they afterwards,
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  they even talked about her law degree that apparently she has in China,
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  which definitely didn't raise any alarm bells at all on that. On that one.
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  Um, boy, um, this is fun. This is fun.
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  November is 3 weeks away. Can't come quick enough.
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  Elections can't come quick enough. Flipping that fucking House and Senate cannot come
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  quick enough. I'm so tired. Oh, and I— listen, I don't
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  have the highest hopes for the, uh, the Democrats these days, but if we get
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  a couple of those, a couple of those senators in there that are a little
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  bit more hardcore, maybe we could do something about this because I'm so Tired.
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  I, I have gotten to the point where I am avoiding discourse on things I
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  normally talk about because I'm like, I can't get yelled at today. I just can't
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  get yelled at today. I can't deal with sexism. I can't deal with— I can't
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  deal with that. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot out there. Okay, let's go
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  ahead and just get to the fun stuff. The football of the weekend, the drunkenness
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  that was. Holy shit, Tanya, the games that took place starting with
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  London all the way to Monday Night Football was— I don't know what
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  to say other than just batshit. It was batshit game after batshit game, ending after
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  ending, exciting endings that end in a fucking whimper.
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  Tua. Yeah. Where do we start? I mean, I would
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  still say that game, like, even the way it ended was just
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  like, yeah, it was a whimper, but it was almost like it was like a
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  slow motion car crash that we all saw coming, right? Like, it was so— that
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  was so crazy. Obviously, we, we kicked the whole
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  football Sunday off in London. But I do
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  want to start with the
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  Buffalo Bills-Rams game last night. Monday Night Football.
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  What a fucking banger. It was a banger. It was the best Monday Monday Night
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  Football game of the year, I think. I think so too. And, uh, the Rams
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  lost in overtime 37-34 to the Bills.
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  And there's a couple of, like, there's a couple of massive themes
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  coming out of this. Obviously we're always talking about the quarterbacks. Yeah. But I do
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  think that there's, there's maybe some subtext that you and I can explore that's a
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  little bit more exciting than just like, oh wow, like the normal shit.
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  So, uh, we saw Josh Allen can still take over a game
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  with his legs. Good to see. Um, I— both
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  he and James Cook were, were cooking on the ground.
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  James Cook, a couple of fumbles, a really tough one
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  in overtime that looked like it might end the game for them.
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  Here's what I liked. I want to tell you what I liked. I,
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  first of all, I hated that James Cook looked so upset with himself because let's
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  be honest, Josh Allen— Josh Allen has it just since James Cook has
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  been, been in the league, has more fumbles lost twice as many fumbles lost
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  as James Cook. Yes, this is— this was tough, but this is not
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  a— this is not a thing that, that, you know, you can blame specifically on
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  him. It was also a crazy punch out by Landry. It was a crazy— it
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  was— that's, that's a great point. It's just like sometimes crazy— that wasn't him being
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  reckless with the ball. He was holding it, and Landry— and what
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  they did, and when they got the ball back, I thought was so impressive.
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  And I give Joe Brady credit for this. They went right back to James Cook.
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  They handed it right back to him on the first play on that next possession.
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  To, to win the game, right? So like that,
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  that to me is— it says everything. It says everything about
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  like their trust in him. And that makes me happy because we've wondered maybe what
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  his relationship is to allowing James Cook to do his job.
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  Do you want to talk about the Rams, your takeaway from the Rams, your takeaway
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  from the Bills first in this game? Let's start with the Bills real
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  quick, because my takeaway from the Bills was, wow, Josh Allen didn't actually play
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  the hero ball that I was expecting him to play. He only made 19 attempts
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  in the game. It was actually, as far as a passing game for him,
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  it was almost— isn't this what we talked about last week that we wanted him
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  to do though? Yeah, this is— it's exactly what we wanted. I said, I said,
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  if you're— if you can't get the— your arm going, if the passing game's not
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  working, look at who you have rushing them. They rushed. They— James was rushing.
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  Josh was rushing. Josh was— now here's the thing. What the fuck?
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  What the fuck was Chris Shula on defense, Colin,
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  doing with empty sets. You have no like
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  quarterback spy, you've got nobody like all game. I mean,
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  truly there was just zero adjustment. Run rampant. Uh, that was
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  wild. To Josh's credit, he wanted it. You could
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  tell that this— he was like, I am not losing this game, I am not
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  having a 3rd bad game in a row. It's not. And there are questions.
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  I have questions about what's happened to Josh Allen's passing game.
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  Okay, I do have questions about it. Do I think now's the time to really
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  have them? Not really, because I like when a quarterback
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  is struggling in one aspect and steps up in another in a way to
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  win a game like that. The conversation around Josh Allen today
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  is, is unhinged on social media, a little
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  less unhinged in media, as I would think. There's a little more balance. There's some
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  people who are like, MVP performance, relax. There's some people who
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  are being weirdly critical. I don't like that either.
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  I think we have to have a course correction conversation about Josh Allen. Okay,
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  real quick. Josh had a couple of— like, he started out the season
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  strong, 2 games in a row from there looked
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  bad. Like, he just has looked bad. And in last night's game, I think
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  we saw what makes him one of the best quarterbacks in the league, which is
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  not that he is the greatest, most talented, most flawless
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  quarterback we've ever seen, but he is genuinely,
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  uh, able to kind of tap into
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  a level of competitiveness and, and, uh,
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  frustration with his own performance that results in this
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  kind of stuff. Like, I'm willing to do whatever it takes to win this game.
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  Yeah, I like when I can see that in a— I like when I can
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  watch on, on the field and see in a quarterback that they want
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  it more than the other guy. I thought I
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  saw that in Josh Allen. He had never won a playoff game. He's in his
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  9th— I'm sorry, an overtime game. He's in his 9th season and
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  he was 0 for 7. I know, in overtime games. I know. Wow. That's not
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  good. No, he knows it's not good. We know it's not good.
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  And I think that's why James Cook felt so badly about potentially blowing it up.
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  But let's be honest, it— he didn't
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  want it. Could you— I felt like I Could you not see it? No,
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  he definitely wanted this. Yes. No, no question he wanted this. And that's why
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  it was, it was kind of wild that they were about to blow it and
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  the Rams were going down the field because they, after they got back that fumble
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  in the overtime, they just fucking marched down the field like it was nothing.
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  And then the exact flip side, because where the throwing game wasn't working for Josh,
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  don't worry, the throwing game was more than working for fucking Matthew Stafford. Fucking 40
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  completions in the game, like 22 attempts over to fucking
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  Puka himself. He was marching down the field like it was absolutely nothing,
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  which is why I was so fucking confused with
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  that final set of downs leading to that kickoff,
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  that attempted kick. It was really weird to me. I would love to hear your
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  thoughts on this. I— so here's the thing,
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  Sean, when it comes to Matthew Stafford and this,
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  like, the amount that he passes in a game, Matthew Stafford— and I've said this
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  before and I'll say it again— he's one of those quarterbacks where if he— if
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  you got him throwing 50-something times a game It's a bad sign. Your run game's
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  not going. He's either playing hero ball or playing catch-up. Right.
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  And Sean McVay lets Matthew Stafford
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  lean into his worst instincts. He's a, he's a Stafford enabler.
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  Okay. Stafford wants to, like, he wants
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  to throw it as many times as humanly possible. He always
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  has. He's Brett Favre. Right. And I
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  do think that like McVay almost overcompensated
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  in that moment before the kick. The whole
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  thing was bizarre, the whole— and I— and like McVay
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  gets to this point because he was unwilling to sort
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  of rein Matthew Stafford in and establish some sort of like— they couldn't—
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  you don't— you cannot be throwing 50 times, marching yourself
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  down the field and scoring quickly against a fucking dude who's running the ball
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  down your throat and, and controlling the clock and
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  also scoring at the same clip. You will lose that game every single time if
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  you're passing and you're, and you're making these big play, quick possession scores
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  and the next team is running the ball down your throat and also scoring.
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  Guess who's going to fucking win? It's going to be the team who can take
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  time off the clock and the team who like, that's just who's going to fucking
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  win. I mean, normally I'd agree with you, except they should have won last night.
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  They fucking blew it on that kick. Well, it was a— first of all,
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  that motherfucker doesn't— he hasn't made that many kicks. That was— that was a little
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  far out for him. I would agree. It was already a little far. His furthest
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  of the year was like 47 yards. Right. He's already kicking in. I'm not kidding.
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  At like 50% this season. And by the way, 48-yard field goal
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  for a guy like that. But that's why I was so surprised by what they
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  did, because they were marching down the field. They had like 2 straight 20-yard plays,
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  and then all of a sudden they did this conservative running just to kind of
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  get in place for him to kick a 50-fucking-yarder. I think he wanted to try
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  to run time off the clock finally. He like, it was like he figured out
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  what the clock was at the end of the fucking game. But they couldn't run.
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  I know. Would have been better to try to establish something earlier
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  on with that. And if you are going to do that, why are, why are
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  you designing downfield plays? What? Because,
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  because Matthew Stafford is like, he's not like a tempo
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  quarterback. So he's a gun. He's got this gunslinger thing. What they would really love
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  to have in that moment is somebody who can do a ton of these like
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  quick out routes, like you don't get out of bounds, you're running down the clock,
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  but you're still like, you're boom, boom, boom. But we're not making fucking chunk plays
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  because this is what ends up happening. And so he had, couldn't get the run
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  game going. He couldn't, there was, there was one option for him, which is like,
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  do I, do I try to have
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  Matthew throw another fucking bomb down the field and
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  then we fuck it up? Or do we just kick it here? It was a,
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  it, I just think it was mismanaged. And Sean McVay is not the only one
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  who mismanaged the end of the game. But I— and I think John
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  McVay is an excellent head coach. It's just something he does frequently. It's only that,
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  by the way, just in case you didn't know, breaking news-ish. It happened
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  a couple of hours ago. Mevis has been released by the Rams.
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  Yeah, he's— he— that was rough. That was rough.
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  I feel bad. You have one job. I don't know, man.
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  It's that I don't think it came down to that kick because
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  they shouldn't have been in that position. Um, but he missed a kick earlier
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  in the game. Yeah, like it— like at that point, if you're gonna,
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  you know, if you're gonna dance with the ones that brought you, like figure
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  it out with, with, with Stafford. Um,
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  and that's the thing is like we can say all we want, Stafford completed 40
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  passes. Did you, did you do it when you could win the game? Yeah,
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  because like that's what, that's what fucking— that's
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  what Josh Allen did. Yeah, right. And he did it in a way that I
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  think is more impressive because I think I
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  could complete a pass downfield to Puka Nacua. Um, you know what
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  I mean? And so I like— that's— I— what I saw honestly was I
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  also liked, um, I was like really confused why Joe Brady was willing to just
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  like kick it and end it like a little early, like he didn't want to
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  get any closer, which makes me think that he was like, this is a sweet
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  spot for my kicker. That was like weird, right? Like he was like, we're just
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  gonna do it now. Like we're not even taking the extra downs to try to
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  get closer. Um, there's just one of those games I'm like,
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  I think you got— I think you got out-hustled. Yeah, it was—
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  it was a hell of a game though, man. What a fucking back and forth.
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  And I still feel okay about the Rams despite that loss again. But at one
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  point, I don't— I'm not gonna lie, I don't— I— but the only reason I
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  don't feel okay is because that team doesn't look like a team that could beat
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  the Seahawks or the Niners in the playoffs. Not at the moment. No, not even
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  fucking close. Not at the moment. They don't know. Like, and that's what worries me,
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  to be quite honest. The Cardinals played their asses off this week, even against a
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  really cooking offense. Without, without their wide receiver, like, that's a, that's quite
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  a division. And I think the Rams should genuinely be concerned. I do actually think
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  they should be concerned. Okay, well, let— we'll see how the season continues. They are
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  2-3 right now, should be 4-1, but they're not. So that's what I'm concerned about,
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  because my concern, and I said this earlier today, it's not that they lost.
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  It's, it's if you're a Super Bowl team, if you're really like a
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  Super Bowl team, you fucking win that game. The end.
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  That's all. And the Bills did. And the Bills won it. Yeah. And you
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  figure out— I am, I am never one of those people who says they shouldn't
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  have won the game. I'm— it's very hard to get me to say they shouldn't
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  have won the game. You win an NFL game in primetime. And I
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  feel that exact same way about the Ravens, which we'll talk about later. Oh,
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  yes, we will. But let's get to— well,
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  we, we've— we started with the end of the weekend. Yeah. Let's go
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  to the very beginning in London early in the morning. I watched
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  every fucking down of this. Did you? Okay. No, I was up bright
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  and early. Okay. And, uh, really couldn't stop fucking laughing at
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  the end. I finished this while I was at the gym. Yeah. And I was
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  watching it on my phone at this point and just fucking laughing.
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  I just couldn't fucking believe it. And here's the other thing. I want to give
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  you this preface. Sure. Jason Kelce on the thing. And that's what Jalen
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  Hurts does. He just figures out a way to win. There was 11
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  seconds left in this game. Tanya, take it away. There was— there 11
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  seconds? Might have even been less. I think it was 8. Was it 8 seconds?
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  Yeah. I mean, if you're Jason Kelce, that's a perfectly reasonable
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  thing to say. By the way, this was not my way of dunking on Jason
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  Kelce. The game was fucking over. Yeah, Jalen Hurts
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  got it done in London. The game was fucking over,
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  and then it wasn't, and then somehow it wasn't. Which, by the way,
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  I like. I like that we've had a couple games like this where it,
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  like, it was over. Like, the Ravens-Cowboys game was over. The, like, this is
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  It's never fucking over. Stop acting like it's over. This one's so slow.
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  This was just hand-given away. In case anybody doesn't
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  know, I don't know, the Eagles
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  kick the go-ahead field goal with, I'm pretty sure, 8 seconds
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  left. You might be right. It might have been under 10 seconds. And then I
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  vaguely remember the word, the number 7 for some reason.
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  I think they, I think they, the return took 7 seconds
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  off the clock and they kicked the field goal with 1 second left. So I
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  think that's what you're talking about. So what happens is instead of having his punter
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  or his kicker kick it into the end zone, now like they
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  don't have a chance at a return. Nick Sirianni,
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  which I'm assuming he's taking responsibility. I don't know if the, if the kicker fucked
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  up or what happened, but they kick it, they allow a return.
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  Amir Abdullah returns it. Into field goal range in the
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  perfect amount for the Jaguars with 1 second left. Again,
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  just like this is like exactly like the Lamar Jackson calling timeout
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  with 1 second on the clock and the Jaguars win on a game-winning
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  field goal. The, the obvious
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  scapegoats every single time that the Eagles lose right
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  now are either Jalen Hurts or Nick Sirianni. People lighting
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  up a little bit on Jalen Hurts this week because to your point, Number one,
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  Jalen Hurts like was getting it done as much as he humanly
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  could with the like one of the worst offensive line situations
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  that they've got going. Uh, a wide receiving corps
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  that is definitely just not what it was with AJ Brown and a
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  defense that has no like no real pass rush and a weakened secondary.
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  Um, Nick Sirianni taking a little more heat before
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  I get into a little bit of what got Philly fans
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  mad at me this week. I'd like to hear what your take is on Nick
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  Sirianni in this game right now. Uh, Nick, not unlike
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  how I kind of think Sean McVay lost the game last night for the Rams,
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  I think Nick Sirianni absolutely lost that for the Eagles. It was— I— my mind
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  was boggled that there was even an attempt to run this ball back.
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  I am— I'm gonna go the Carly Irsay Gordon route
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  and say I have a 5th grade recollection and understanding of the game,
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  especially compared to the people that are on the side, especially compared
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  to the fucking NFL head coaches. I'm sure Nick Sirianni has lost more knowledge
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  of football this morning than I've ever accumulated in my entire life. Yeah,
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  but for some reason, in that 20-second margin,
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  he forgot I was a fucking genius and he was a fucking idiot. And I
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  have no idea how that happened. I'm not positive how
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  it happened either. I will say I do sometimes wonder in these
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  situations if he's covering up for his kicker making a mistake. Maybe.
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  Um, of which, good on him to do that. That's what a good head coach
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  should do, right? But then again, what the fuck is the kicker doing then?
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  Sure. By the way, this was a massive theme throughout
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  the NFL this weekend. Everyone fucking forgot how to play football all of
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  a sudden. We're gonna, we're gonna talk about— I know we are. We're gonna talk
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  about some other coaching mistakes too, because like, this has been chock-full of coaching mistakes.
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  So here's the thing. Um,
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  I have— every time we talk about Philly, we're either talking about
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  Nick Sirianni or Jalen Hurts, or how Nick Sirianni and Jalen Hurts aren't getting along,
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  or how somehow they're like the catalyst for an issue in the locker room
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  or whatever else. Right. Never. We never get
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  like anybody on the record really saying that. We never get anybody. It's always these
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  leaks. It's always some sort of anonymous sourcing sources. And the
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  Philadelphia Eagles have for a long time been a team
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  that is incredibly leaky. I believe that they are the
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  leakiest anonymous source type team in the NFL
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  by a large margin. Now you compare that to the fact
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  that this is a head coach quarterback duo that has made 2 Super Bowl runs.
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  They have been to the Super Bowl together twice. How many head
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  coach quarterback duos have you ever— have you— can
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  you recall that have gone to 2 Super Bowls that
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  receive this much constant critique?
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  I cannot think of any. The only— maybe one. Maybe one.
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  Give me and I'll let you know. Tom Coughlin and Eli Manning.
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  Not even close. Really? No, they were fucking— they never— they were never
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  up Coughlin's ass. Never. Fair. They were up Eli's a little bit. They were definitely
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  up Eli's. But like, also, he was like, you know, he was a hero for
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  beating Tom Brady twice, right? True. So here's the thing.
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  There have been 3 instances in the history of
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  the NFL where a head coach has been fired within 3 years of winning a
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  Super Bowl. One was Don McCafferty in the 1970s.
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  One was George Seifert in the '90s. He was
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  like forced to resign, but they were going to retire him. They were going to
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  fire him. And the other one was Doug Pederson in 2017 from
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  the Eagles or in 2020 after winning in 2017.
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  Now we've— so we've got in the last 30 years
• 19:55
  one guy ever in that situation to be fired 3 years after
• 19:59
  winning a Super Bowl. Now Nick Sirianni's on the hot seat
• 20:02
  less than 2 years after winning a Super Bowl for the same organization.
• 20:07
  That is not a coincidence. What I need everybody to understand,
• 20:10
  whether you like it or not, is that we have a very big Howie
• 20:14
  Roseman issue in Philadelphia. And this
• 20:19
  is, this is what you get when you have a boom-or-bust GM. Howie Roseman
• 20:23
  is a control freak. After he lost control of the locker room or of the
• 20:27
  personnel situation to Chip Kelly.
• 20:30
  He, he got it back from Jeffrey Lurie and he said, I'm never giving it
• 20:32
  back again. He hires personality guys, locker room dudes,
• 20:36
  guys who are like kind of rah-rah coaches. They're good, they're good in game,
• 20:39
  but they're not like the craziest designers you've ever seen. They're just like, they're culture
• 20:43
  guys. Yeah. And then when he wants to do
• 20:47
  his, his, uh, Howie Roseman thing and restock,
• 20:50
  reload, he wants his picks, he wants everything so he can go and do the
• 20:53
  another, the next best offseason and build the next best super team.
• 20:57
  What does he have to do in the meantime? He has to let Nick Sirianni
• 21:00
  and Jalen Hurts wallow in the bullshit
• 21:04
  he's handed them in 2026. That roster is not where
• 21:08
  it should be. No, he did not make the additions and the, like, things necessary
• 21:12
  in order for a team that should be competing every single year
• 21:17
  to succeed. And that does not take mistakes
• 21:21
  from Nick Sirianni away. It does not take mistakes from Jalen Hurts away. But what
• 21:25
  it does tell me is that this is a systemic issue. I know for a
• 21:28
  fact that the leaks that come out of there are coming from the front office.
• 21:32
  He causes chaos. He has convinced their entire fucking entire
• 21:36
  fandom that he— in how we
• 21:40
  trust, he is the architect. Oh yes, he has. Anything, anything that happens
• 21:44
  outside of that, it's everybody's fault but his. So if Nick
• 21:48
  Sirianni and Jalen Hurts can't get this team to fucking win, Guess what's going to
• 21:51
  happen? Uh, somehow Nick Sirianni's going to have to lose his job in a way
• 21:55
  that nobody else loses their fucking jobs and hasn't really
• 21:59
  for 30-plus years except for his last head coach.
• 22:03
  And Jalen Hurts, who has been to 2 Super Bowls and had 2
• 22:07
  of the better Super Bowl performances we've ever fucking seen— absolutely did— is
• 22:10
  on. So we've got firing, we've got firing rumors for Nick Sirianni,
• 22:14
  we've got trade rumors for Jalen Hurts, and Howie is accumulating
• 22:18
  his, his draft stock and everything else so he can re-up and
• 22:22
  be the hero yet again. They— the, the Philadelphia
• 22:25
  Eagles fan base wants to be a dynasty-type fan base, and they will never
• 22:29
  have a fucking dynasty with Howie Roseman because he is inconsistent on purpose.
• 22:33
  His entire thing is that he will not maintain a roster, and the best
• 22:37
  GM and head coach combinations understand how to maintain
• 22:41
  a roster with an elite head coach quarterback combo year in,
• 22:45
  year out. You look at Brett Veach and Andy Reid,
• 22:49
  they get it done right. And they take their lumps when they have a down
• 22:52
  year, whether it's injuries or whatever else. That was last year. Bill Belichick, as the
• 22:56
  role himself as GM and head coach,
• 22:59
  every year it was how do we retool? How do we do— how do we
• 23:02
  keep this in place for Tom Brady? How do we keep this in place for
• 23:05
  Patrick Mahomes? How do we keep this in place for these dudes who are— who
• 23:09
  have taken us to multiple Super Bowls? Let's not waste this fucking opportunity.
• 23:12
  Howie doesn't give a fuck. And so Philadelphia Eagles fans, they want
• 23:16
  to have their cake and eat it too. They want to talk about, we're one
• 23:18
  of the best teams in the league, we've been to 2 fucking Super Bowls.
• 23:20
  Okay, well, guess what? You will never be what you could
• 23:23
  be with these 2 people who have gone to 2 Super Bowls.
• 23:27
  Like, that's not a thing that happens unless you have an excellent
• 23:31
  combo at those 2 positions. You'll never be that. So I hope,
• 23:35
  I, I hope you guys are ready to watch Howie Roseman tank your fucking team,
• 23:38
  because that's what he's doing. And then he, by the way, He'll build it right
• 23:41
  back up because he will, because he's a football genius. I'm not saying he's not.
• 23:44
  That dude is an absolute fucking maniac at the GM position. He's great.
• 23:48
  He's great. But what I'm witnessing right now is an entire
• 23:52
  fan base hold 2 people accountable for a roster that
• 23:57
  is frankly very, very underwhelming. Yes. On purpose.
• 24:01
  Interesting. I like it. Thanks for hearing me out. I did hear you out.
• 24:05
  I'm trying to get it out. It all makes sense. And all the Philly fans
• 24:08
  are mad at you for that theory. Oh, they're— they— are fucking
• 24:12
  furious. How we trust— oh yeah, they're furious. How could you defend
• 24:16
  Nick Sirianni? I'm like, it was a bad call. It was a very bad call.
• 24:18
  That man's taking you to 2 fucking Super Bowls. And oh, I had someone tell
• 24:21
  me the 2024 Eagles team is one of the greatest rosters ever assembled.
• 24:25
  I was like, oh babe, oh no. Oh, the Kool-Aid
• 24:28
  has been drunk, my love. My goodness. No, no,
• 24:32
  no, no, no, no, no. That's how they were like the 6th best team
• 24:36
  in the NFL that season. Like, it was a great roster. Very much so.
• 24:40
  But it was the greatest ever assembled. It wasn't even the greatest assembled
• 24:43
  in the last fucking 5 years. It wasn't the greatest assembled on that field
• 24:47
  that night. Like, I— it might— maybe— no, I mean, they had a better roster
• 24:52
  than the Chiefs. I mean, but like, but like, at the end of the day,
• 24:55
  the great— like, that's the crazy kind of shit that these— that Eagles fans are,
• 24:59
  are telling me, which is like, oh, like, when you're telling me the 2024
• 25:03
  roster was on— is, is is even a top 20 roster
• 25:06
  of all time in the NFL, you've lost your fucking marbles.
• 25:09
  They did not get carried to your— that head coach did not get carried
• 25:13
  to a Super Bowl. That's just not how it fucking works. Maybe once,
• 25:17
  not twice. Well, take that fucking— you can go once and I'll give you a
• 25:21
  little bit of like, Brian Billick, you got carried by that defense. Yes, but this
• 25:24
  is twice. Twice in a matter of 4 years or 3 years, really.
• 25:27
  Exactly. Yeah. So sorry, I can't, I can't, can't, can't get on
• 25:31
  board with that at all. But let's go to this game really quickly.
• 25:35
  New England versus the Raiders. It was a shit show. Your team won. Congratulations.
• 25:39
  We seemingly got your guy back on track and the Raiders could do absolutely nothing
• 25:42
  right. Apparently their defense decided to take the weekend off. That was fucking awful.
• 25:45
  I hated every second. And you did too. Oh,
• 25:49
  Mendoza got out there for a drive. He did fine. We did fine. I mean,
• 25:53
  listen, the, the Raiders— I told
• 25:57
  you before the game, the Raiders defense is not good. They looked awful. So,
• 26:00
  like, that did not surprise me that they didn't look good. It was a
• 26:04
  question whether or not Drake Maye was going to carry over with another great performance
• 26:07
  from the week before. He was even better. Well, the Raiders let him do that
• 26:11
  or helped him at some points. Well, they weren't stopping him, that's for sure.
• 26:13
  No, they were not. The biggest issue, which is
• 26:16
  what I told you was like the real like matchup of the game,
• 26:20
  was the Patriots' very good defense against the Raiders' otherwise very
• 26:24
  good offense. That was going to be the game decider. And to me,
• 26:28
  it's still no matter how well Drake played and he did play great,
• 26:31
  he did. Um, and the rest of the roster did too. Uh, the,
• 26:34
  the defense just fucking tore Kirk Cousins
• 26:38
  up. They just didn't fucking care. And, you know, I put in
• 26:42
  the notes that, you know,
• 26:45
  the Patriots defense exposed the vulnerabilities of Kirk Cousins when his tempo is disrupted.
• 26:50
  He is a— like, he has got to stay in rhythm and tempo, and he's
• 26:53
  going to be able to do his efficient, like, complete his passes. He's got to
• 26:56
  be able to— and they Brock Bowers was having his way for most of the
• 26:59
  game. He was still getting his looks, he was still getting his, and he was
• 27:01
  still making his plays. But he was it. But that was it. That was it.
• 27:04
  Nothing out of the run game. And then eventually he made an uncharacteristic mistake
• 27:08
  because the game had been so brutal for them all along that he had like
• 27:12
  an absolutely, like I've never seen Brock. I think that was like his first drop
• 27:15
  ever. Like it was like crazy, right? Um, and so I think that's,
• 27:19
  uh, I think this is a learning curve for Clint Kubiak. Yes. Um,
• 27:23
  in like what happens when you go up against a, a defense that's
• 27:26
  much more prepared for you. And I also think that,
• 27:31
  like we've said, you're going to keep getting these glimpses of Kirk Cousins'
• 27:36
  ceiling. Mm-hmm. I will say I'm aware.
• 27:39
  I will say I don't know what the— I don't know how you prepare
• 27:43
  for Drake Maye at this point as another— I swear to God,
• 27:46
  I— he's— he has had one of the worst games of the season and one
• 27:50
  of the best games of the season within like 3 weeks. Yeah. He's, he's infuriating.
• 27:55
  I don't know what the fuck is going on. He's either like— I mean,
• 27:58
  you— we've seen Josh Allen be great and bad one week to the next.
• 28:02
  Drake Maye's taken it to a new goddamn level. So I don't know, I don't
• 28:06
  know how much we learned about the Patriots long
• 28:09
  term in that game. They looked a lot better. I think their defense will always
• 28:12
  be good. Do you feel like you learned anything about the Raiders, or— Yeah,
• 28:15
  we're just not as good as I hoped. Uh, we, we're, we're solid, we're fine,
• 28:19
  we're probably a .500 team, just over .500 hopefully, but the schedule is
• 28:22
  pretty brutal coming up here. So we'll see what happens with the Raiders going forward.
• 28:25
  I mean, they got a tough— they got a tough one this weekend. They got
• 28:28
  the Bills, but luckily the Bills are on short rest, so maybe they can take
• 28:31
  advantage of that at home as well, which, you know, the Black Hole has not
• 28:34
  been really a home field advantage up until really this season. So I'm
• 28:38
  hoping this will be a thing this weekend. I did get offered tickets to it,
• 28:41
  but I'm going to the Rose Bowl this— do you want to go to the
• 28:43
  Rose Bowl on Saturday? I, I, I got offered tickets for you, but I'd have
• 28:45
  to It would cost a little bit, but nothing crazy. Well, I don't want you
• 28:49
  to— I don't want you to have to spend money on, on little old me.
• 28:53
  Little old me. We'll have to— we'll have to discuss that. I'm trying to figure
• 28:56
  out what the hell I'm even doing this weekend. Maybe we can go to the
• 28:59
  Rose Bowl. We're playing Wisconsin. Maybe I'm going to the Rose Bowl. I don't know.
• 29:02
  We can go to the Rose Bowl. We're playing Wisconsin. I just heard about this
• 29:04
  just now. Well, I just heard about this about an hour and a half ago.
• 29:06
  I've been doing other shit and I forgot. All right, guys, weigh in. Should I
• 29:09
  go to the Rose Bowl? Should we have the regulars at the Rose Bowl again?
• 29:12
  Part 2. Um, we have matching hats this time. Oh, we do. Um, all right.
• 29:16
  Uh, this is— this was— I can't— I've been so excited to talk about
• 29:20
  the fucking Vikings. Oh my God. 5-0 Vikings getting it done.
• 29:23
  Kyler completed 80% of his passes. Kyler Murray was efficient.
• 29:27
  The offense ran on every cylinder. The defense does
• 29:30
  what the defense does. They scored a touchdown finally. I mean, what can I
• 29:34
  say? Watch out. Someone said like, fucking Vikings watching,
• 29:37
  um, watching Kyler like toss that like corner
• 29:41
  end zone in triple coverage touchdown to Justin
• 29:46
  Jefferson. I don't know if you saw it. And they were like, oh, I saw
• 29:47
  it. It was like, fuck it, Justin Jefferson's out there somewhere, right?
• 29:51
  Like, it was a, it was a well-placed pass. But I mean, Justin Jefferson had
• 29:55
  to like just— he just had to be Justin Jefferson. And he was. This team
• 29:58
  is good, man. The story, the story of them up until this week has been
• 30:02
  the defense is carrying their asses. Yes. And the defense
• 30:06
  continued to carry their asses They made the Saints look completely useless
• 30:10
  on offense. They only had 142 total yards.
• 30:13
  Tyler Shutt threw 2 interceptions. The ground game couldn't get going. They could not
• 30:17
  do anything. And this is an offense that's been doing plenty this year, even if
• 30:21
  they've not been winning. Nope. Fucking Flores made them look like a junior varsity
• 30:25
  college team too. Like, like insane. And then to see
• 30:29
  that the offense has started to get rolling a little bit and that Kyler is
• 30:32
  starting to feel himself into the offense.
• 30:36
  He, he looked a lot more comfortable this week. I'm gonna
• 30:40
  ask it. I'm gonna ask it. Can you throw up, Mocha, the NFC
• 30:45
  playoffs as if they were happening right now?
• 30:48
  Let's see it. Okay, so if
• 30:52
  the playoffs were to happen right now, the Vikings would have the edge over
• 30:56
  the unbeaten 49ers. Both unbeaten.
• 31:00
  Are like, I mean, we're looking at this like outside
• 31:04
  of the Niners, none of these teams are going to catch the Vikings,
• 31:08
  right? I don't think so. I definitely know it's not going to be the Panthers.
• 31:11
  You could make an argument for the Bears when they get Caleb back, but they
• 31:14
  looked like shit this last weekend with Bagent. The Packers,
• 31:17
  who I really don't believe in but had a really monstrous game against the Bears
• 31:20
  out of nowhere. The Lions, who we've had, you know, they're wishy-washy back and forth.
• 31:24
  We don't really know. I don't think they're going to catch up to them either.
• 31:27
  I think the Vikings are the best team in the North.
• 31:30
  Unquestionably. Okay, well, here's the question. Are they the
• 31:34
  best team in the NFC? I'm having trouble getting there
• 31:37
  because the 49ers seemingly don't want to die. Do you want
• 31:42
  to talk about the 49ers as, as a transition, and then we'll kind of return
• 31:45
  to this conversation? I would like to, because Brock Purdy, if the season ended today,
• 31:48
  is the MVP. I agree. Um, my,
• 31:52
  my one thing before we talk about the Niners is that in like In a
• 31:55
  season where offenses have been inconsistent, where we've had, uh, major quarterback
• 32:00
  injuries, multiple major quarterback injuries, and we just saw another one with Michael Penix,
• 32:04
  um, and we're already seeing that toll taken,
• 32:08
  the Vikings defense might be one of those
• 32:12
  defenses, the ones that we've seen, the, like,
• 32:15
  the Legion of Boom, the no-fly zone, the Baltimore Ravens, these where
• 32:20
  it's like in a season where, like, Every— I feel like every maybe 4 or
• 32:24
  5 years we get a defense that is better than any offense.
• 32:28
  And so I'm— that's what I'm keeping an eye on. Okay. Uh, we're gonna skip
• 32:31
  over the— this middle game for a second, go to the Niners-Seahawks, because that
• 32:35
  kind of keeps us in that conversation of the 2 best teams in the NFC.
• 32:38
  Uh, this feels like one of those games where we didn't necessarily learn too much
• 32:41
  because it was a banger. We expected it to be a banger. It was a
• 32:44
  banger. It was like divisional sloppiness,
• 32:47
  turnovers, crazy shit happening, right? Um,
• 32:50
  But the 49ers prevailed on
• 32:54
  late drives from Brock Purdy. And, you know,
• 32:57
  Mike Evans being a— being fucking Mike Evans, being a monster.
• 33:02
  They can— they can really do anything in a— in the late
• 33:06
  portion of a game to figure out a way to win. What do you got?
• 33:10
  You got to— somebody just said,
• 33:13
  Juan, it's Brazil. The Vikings are a mirage.
• 33:16
  Don't do it immediately. Tiger JLV 86
• 33:20
  says, Not a mirage. Laughing face. We got, we got fights
• 33:24
  in the chat, ladies and gentlemen. She said the Vikings are a mirage. Yes.
• 33:28
  Well, to be fair, the Vikings are constantly that
• 33:32
  team that like looks like they're going to do it and then they don't.
• 33:35
  So I, I completely understand. But so when we're talking about playoffs, I totally
• 33:39
  understand. As far as like being a legit NFC contender, I do think
• 33:43
  that there's no reason to think that they're not going to stay that, mostly because
• 33:45
  Aaron Jones was also awesome. The wider— like, there was like a bunch working for
• 33:49
  that. He was— he's been fucking great. Can't believe he's still doing it,
• 33:53
  man. He's getting up there in age, by the way. Yeah, so, um, that's what
• 33:56
  makes me think that at least for the regular season— never bet on the Vikings
• 33:59
  in the postseason, never do that. But, um, as far as the— as
• 34:03
  far as the Niners, they, um, they are a team that is— they're— they're
• 34:07
  on a mission, right? Like, they're on a mission. They seem like they're—
• 34:11
  Dre Greenlaw's a nut job. Like, they're all doing crazy shit, right? But how
• 34:16
  long can this last? Like, don't the Niners always feel to you like they're
• 34:19
  on the precipice of like exploding? I don't know.
• 34:23
  All it's gonna take is one more injury. Once Kittle goes down,
• 34:26
  it's over. No, no, it's just
• 34:29
  somehow they fucking die. They— some, some— something about this organization
• 34:34
  for like the last like 30 years, it's like they won the world, they won
• 34:37
  the Super Bowl against the Chargers like by 50 points. Like they've
• 34:41
  been weirdly snake pit year after year after year. And this last like 5
• 34:44
  years has been ungodly glaring. I mean, the amount of injuries last season,
• 34:48
  everything that's happened before this season, the weird vibes
• 34:52
  in the offseason, the weird fucking— the, the, the hookers in Ohio,
• 34:56
  the fucking— the, the fucking car crash somewhere that
• 35:00
  we don't still really even know where. Like fucking weird
• 35:04
  shit around this organization. And yes, everyone's gotten hurt because of the weird substation
• 35:08
  that they keep practicing at, but like it's Like, it's so fucking—
• 35:12
  then the Australia game, which was just fucking weird altogether.
• 35:16
  It's fucking weird. The vibes are weird. The vibes are like
• 35:19
  that they just find ways to win games, and I love,
• 35:23
  I love that. And I think Brock Purdy has just been fantastic.
• 35:28
  He's so good. I think he's been fantastic, and I agree
• 35:31
  that right now he is in, in the MVP conversation at the,
• 35:35
  you know, among the top. I think there's a couple other people I put in
• 35:37
  there with him, but at different positions. As far as quarterback, he is
• 35:41
  the one. Um, I just— one
• 35:45
  of these teams makes Super Bowls and loses them, and one of these teams
• 35:49
  has never been to a Super Bowl, right? Like, it's like when we're
• 35:52
  talking about Vikings-Niners, these are not teams that you can always rely on.
• 35:57
  But man, they both look really fucking good right now. They look really
• 36:01
  fucking good. And Brian Flores is doing stuff on defense I have never seen.
• 36:05
  And when you're doing that and you're ahead of the curve, he'll have to change
• 36:09
  it up next year. Offensive coordinators will catch up, but they're not going to do
• 36:12
  it this year. And that's what I think is interesting. I find it really interesting.
• 36:15
  We'll find out because it's going to get very, very interesting as this continues.
• 36:19
  Uh, should we talk about the most embarrassing game
• 36:23
  maybe that's ever ended in the history of the NFL? You think
• 36:27
  this is worse than the Eagles one? Yeah. Okay. I really do because
• 36:31
  I— Giants-Commanders— I can't fucking fathom what the fuck
• 36:34
  was going on with Daniels in his mind. I— the press conference
• 36:39
  afterwards, his, his statement of that should have been relayed
• 36:43
  in, but ultimately it lands on me.
• 36:47
  Um, and with that second part, and only do that second part, needs to
• 36:51
  be relayed in. How did every NFL player and coach forget
• 36:55
  what fucking football is this last weekend? This was fucking— this
• 36:59
  was malpractice. In a degree that I've never seen in my
• 37:02
  life. It was really rough. And, you know, I actually
• 37:06
  watched a segment from Chris Simms with Mike Florio where
• 37:09
  he, he was actually like, I— this one feels
• 37:13
  like it's on Dan Quinn to me. Really interesting. And I was like, I haven't
• 37:17
  really fully landed on where I'm at with it. At the time, I was still
• 37:21
  kind of waffling. I thought more about it. I listened to what he said.
• 37:24
  I said I liked that he was willing to blame the the coach before the
• 37:28
  quarterback, because I do think that the coaches are like getting exposed this week.
• 37:31
  And I think it's smart that we don't constantly blame a quarterback for a team
• 37:35
  game in every single situation. Well, I agree, because we heard that from Aaron Rodgers.
• 37:38
  It's up to Aaron Rodgers to tell the coaching staff what they're
• 37:42
  doing wrong. Still one of the funniest fucking things. Unfortunately, it's very funny.
• 37:45
  It's actually hilarious. And to his credit, they won 2 games straight. So since
• 37:49
  he started telling Mike McCarthy what he's doing, Isn't great. So maybe,
• 37:53
  maybe Aaron Rodgers was right about that one. Uh, so here's,
• 37:57
  here's my thought is number one,
• 38:00
  right in, in a game like that, yeah, in a game that close, you got
• 38:04
  no timeouts at the end of the game. Already, already you've made a mistake.
• 38:08
  You've already made a coaching mistake. That's okay, you're not the first coaching mistake.
• 38:12
  So you're not the first coach to be in that spot with no timeouts,
• 38:15
  but you've already made a mistake by not having any timeouts. Then in
• 38:20
  that particular situation, the play
• 38:24
  call is what? What?
• 38:28
  Where was the pass to the sideline? I have no idea. So why is
• 38:32
  it on Jayden Daniels that he
• 38:35
  had the— what was that fucking play call? Do you mean the, the drop back?
• 38:39
  And remember that, remember that old like football game where it was like magnets on
• 38:42
  the bottom and they're like buzzing around and like barely running into each other.
• 38:45
  He just did like some weird little circle thing. Yeah. And fell
• 38:49
  to the ground. So to me, that— I'm sorry,
• 38:52
  but like, if you had had a clear play call that was a sideline
• 38:56
  throw or something else, that would make sense. But whatever that fucking was,
• 39:00
  like, unless you tell me Jayden Daniels audibled to that,
• 39:05
  I'm on— I'm on Dan Quinn's ass. And Dan Quinn has
• 39:10
  not a lot of credibility. No, he does not. I do that front
• 39:14
  too. To everything, to everyone's credit in this exact moment,
• 39:18
  can't argue that. Can't argue that. So I don't know why
• 39:21
  Jayden Daniels has credibility, but we do know Dan Quinn does not
• 39:25
  have— well, I think that's the bigger thing is that Jayden Daniels is a 3rd-year
• 39:29
  quarterback. He should absolutely know better. Yeah, but Dan Quinn is
• 39:33
  a veteran head coach And we have seen him
• 39:37
  essentially get, get outcoached
• 39:42
  the most anyone's ever been outcoached, maybe. Oh yeah. No, no. We watched Dan
• 39:46
  Quinn lose his job this last weekend. It hasn't taken yet, but the gun,
• 39:50
  the gun was shot. I'm talking about like in the Super Bowl. Like, oh yeah,
• 39:53
  like that, that meltdown from him,
• 39:56
  Matt Ryan, the fucking, you know, Falcons defense, whatever. Legendary for the
• 40:00
  history of time. That is like, that is a very much a we've seen you
• 40:04
  sort of like lose the plot before in a
• 40:08
  way that— yeah. Now I know offensive linemen said that they were supposed— they supposedly
• 40:12
  knew that there was no timeouts. I do— I will give credit
• 40:15
  to quarterbacks. They also have a lot more going on than an offensive line.
• 40:18
  That is also true. So like, you know, sometimes there are miscommunications
• 40:22
  there. I'm willing to give it 20/80. Like,
• 40:25
  I'll give— I'll give Jayden Daniels some shit. I absolutely will.
• 40:28
  He— he's got his issues. But like, sorry bro,
• 40:31
  what the fuck was that play call? Every year you got no timeouts and you
• 40:34
  give them that? I— if that's what it was, I don't know what it was,
• 40:37
  but you are definitely right. Yeah, Dan Quinn has absolutely no credibility,
• 40:41
  which I do think is giving him an extra 30% in your 80%
• 40:45
  scale, right? But that's why I'm going more 50/50 on this one.
• 40:48
  That's fine. Um, we can be— we can be— yeah, this is a minor
• 40:53
  discrepancy. Yeah, no, no, I'm going 50/50 on this one. Okay, but you do make
• 40:56
  a a very compelling point about Dan Quinn. And listen, it was just—
• 41:01
  Dan Quinn will no longer have a job. It just hasn't happened yet.
• 41:04
  But that play— because he's really like likable to me.
• 41:07
  I agree. But that play, yeah, the gun, the gun has been fired.
• 41:11
  The bullet— I think that that is a bigger mistake than Sirianni. I think it's
• 41:15
  better. I think bigger than like whatever McVay did. I think it's bigger than like
• 41:17
  some, you know, some of the mistakes that, um, by the way, you know,
• 41:21
  in this in this, uh, in this Falcons-Ravens
• 41:25
  game. We went into it— so Ravens
• 41:29
  win 30-23 overtime over the
• 41:32
  Falcons on the road, Sunday Night Football, with Tyler Huntley doing
• 41:37
  what he needed to do. Um, this was also
• 41:41
  kind of a banger of a game. It was really fun until Tua
• 41:45
  showed up. The shots of The shots
• 41:48
  of Michael Penix on the bench. Have you seen it?
• 41:52
  No. While he's watching Tua warm up, it is,
• 41:56
  it is like it— I cannot— it's, it's film. It's cinema. Is it?
• 42:00
  You can see in his eyes that they're— he's like, we're so fucked.
• 42:04
  We're so— I knew they were fucked. But like, there were
• 42:08
  2 things that I took away from Tua's appearance at the end of the game.
• 42:12
  My first thing, and I'm not kidding, and I've said this before, I'm going to
• 42:14
  say it again. He dropped back, and I think they're legitimately in
• 42:18
  his head at some point. It popped in, he's like, am I the Ravens?
• 42:21
  Am I on the Ravens?
• 42:25
  Because it's a new team, he's not used to these colors. He's like, they have
• 42:29
  Kyle Hamilton as a wide receiver, that's fucking awesome. Oh dude,
• 42:32
  2-way guy. Yeah, yeah, right to him as if there was
• 42:35
  no actual wide receiver in the correct colors. He like warmed
• 42:39
  up, went out, threw a pick, and left. Was Almost admirable.
• 42:44
  It was so fucking bad. My other thought was,
• 42:47
  because, you know, Tua's always gotten so much shit for his arm strength, right?
• 42:51
  Right. It was the first time I saw Tua throw a pass that I said
• 42:54
  out loud, Tua might be a righty. I think that's the problem.
• 42:59
  I think he's right-handed. I don't think that's the problem.
• 43:03
  I'm not going to lie. I think he tried. I think the problem
• 43:07
  is that he's bad. But here's the thing. Um,
• 43:11
  the real story for me is that Jesse Minter had the defense looking much
• 43:15
  better. Yes, on the road against the— an offense that was unstoppable, had scored
• 43:19
  35 and 45 2 weeks in a row, held them to 23 before
• 43:22
  Penix got hurt. So with the whole full healthy roster,
• 43:26
  they looked much better. They were tackling better. Now there was a couple mistakes at
• 43:30
  the end, some tackling mistakes that looked reminiscent of what I've been seeing from the
• 43:33
  Ravens before, but they were still much improved.
• 43:36
  Tyler Huntley is one of the best quarterbacks, backup quarterbacks, if not the best
• 43:39
  backup quarterback in the league. He is very experienced.
• 43:43
  Him and Lamar Jackson's relationship with each other, like,
• 43:46
  tell me you weren't like fucking smiling ear to ear every time they shot Lamar.
• 43:50
  Every time. This game. Every time they talk. That team's— I love this fucking
• 43:54
  team, by the way. I love this fucking team. Everything that's ever been said about
• 43:58
  Lamar, fuck you guys. You're wrong. This team's fucking great. This team's great.
• 44:01
  He's great. Such a good leader. He's fucking lovely. I want them
• 44:05
  to win the Super Bowl. I want them to win it. Yeah. So, so many
• 44:09
  motherfuckers can shut the fuck up. Right. And I, and I
• 44:13
  was impressed with Mentor and I think he outcoached Kevin Stefanski in especially toward
• 44:17
  the end of regulation. Now, yes, the,
• 44:20
  you know, there's the argument that the, that the Baltimore Ravens
• 44:23
  got lucky because Penix got hurt. They were going to drive down the field and
• 44:27
  they were going to either score, you know, whatever. Right. Sure. But at the end
• 44:30
  of the day, the Ravens had played the whole game without their starter. Like,
• 44:34
  why are we— they're like, well, if if, if Penix hadn't gone
• 44:37
  out for that. Okay, there was no Lamar in this game. So like,
• 44:40
  let's call a spade a spade. I, you know,
• 44:44
  Tua is not the backup quarterback that Tyler Huntley is.
• 44:48
  Sucks to suck. Build your fucking roster. That's on Stefanski
• 44:52
  and their GM. That's on them.
• 44:55
  And I do like, I really hope Penix is able to like stay healthy in
• 44:58
  some capacity because this is bumming me out. He looks— he's been looking so fucking
• 45:01
  good. I agree. But huge, much-needed big win
• 45:05
  to keep Lamar's team in good standing from Tyler
• 45:08
  Huntley. And shout out to him. Yeah. And shout out to Minter for figuring it
• 45:11
  the fuck out in primetime on the road. Good. Real quick, got 2
• 45:15
  more games to talk about real quick. But yeah, this game was Packers-Bears
• 45:19
  fucking batshit. I didn't see it coming. Blowout. Didn't see it coming.
• 45:23
  No one saw it coming. And I saw— you and I left room open for
• 45:27
  the Packers to win. But not like that. 31-7. It was a fucking ass
• 45:31
  kicking. Not 31-7. Even without Caleb Williams, we did not see that one coming.
• 45:35
  I love that Jordan Love looked great. I love that their offense looked great again.
• 45:39
  Like, I don't have much— I like those unis. Those were sweet. I liked them
• 45:43
  too. Chris was saying he thought they were a little busy and he would have
• 45:45
  like removed a few things. I actually fucking loved them. I really liked them.
• 45:48
  I loved them. I love that they look like they were in sepia tone from
• 45:51
  like— yeah, like they had been placed out of like a 1950s like NFL.
• 45:54
  It looked like aged cast. Yes, it was so cool. I liked it.
• 45:58
  I agree. The Packers, you know, I don't—
• 46:02
  I'm losing hope in Matt LaFleur and have been, but I love Jordan Love
• 46:06
  and I'm just glad he had a good game. On the flip side, I have
• 46:10
  some questions and I don't know how you feel about this. Maybe you
• 46:13
  disagree. I— Ben Johnson is
• 46:16
  now 2-6 against NFC North opponents as the Bears head coach
• 46:20
  in the regular season. Yes. Um, without Caleb Williams and in a difficult divisional
• 46:25
  game, Should we be questioning why he started Tyler
• 46:29
  Badgett? Do you think he should have gone with Case Keenum?
• 46:32
  I think he should have gone in with Case Keenum last week and this week.
• 46:35
  And I don't know, I don't understand. And I'll tell you why. Maybe you can,
• 46:38
  whatever. But here's the thing. When a quarterback
• 46:42
  wins a game like he won and you see that he can operate in
• 46:46
  a sort of limited version of your offense, but like really stick with your offense
• 46:50
  and do what needs to be done. And then you bench him to go back
• 46:54
  to the number 2, the Tyler Badgett, and then he
• 46:58
  performs poorly. Okay, I understand that move.
• 47:01
  I understand what you're trying to do. You think like, this is the younger,
• 47:03
  healthier guy, I'm gonna stick with him in case we need to keep going.
• 47:06
  We want to get him some rhythm. Fine. Tyler Badgett
• 47:10
  was not good last week either. No. This week, now you've set everybody
• 47:14
  up to fail because you either go back to Case or you
• 47:18
  start Tyler, and now you've set them both up to fail. Because Tyler
• 47:22
  Badgen throws 2 picks halfway through this fucking blowout, because it started being a
• 47:26
  blowout very early. You're like, hey Case, can you come fix this? And he's like,
• 47:28
  no, like, you've had me on the fucking bench for 2 weeks. I just came
• 47:32
  into this goddamn game, now I'm behind the 8-ball. I've got no ability to develop
• 47:36
  any rhythm. That's literally my only fucking thing. I don't know if you saw how
• 47:39
  we won that goddamn game. So no, I'm also going to turn
• 47:43
  the ball over now I just, I don't like how Ben
• 47:46
  Johnson handled this. I really think he had a difficult decision to
• 47:50
  make to say, Tyler, I'm so sorry, but Case has taken your backup job.
• 47:53
  And he wasn't willing to make the difficult decision in that moment. He wasn't like—
• 47:57
  this is the veteran guy, this guy with way more experience, this is a guy
• 48:00
  who proved that he still had it. And I think that Ben Johnson made
• 48:04
  the chicken shit choice, um, to go with the guy he originally
• 48:08
  wanted to go with, and it backfired. I agree with everything
• 48:11
  you just said. Really? Literally agree with everything you said. The only reason
• 48:15
  why I thought they maybe were trying to get with Badgint so much is because
• 48:18
  like his skill set kind of is a little maybe closer to what Caleb is
• 48:21
  rather than doing the more reserved and conservative version
• 48:25
  of the, the scheme that worked really well. But worked really fucking well. Listen,
• 48:29
  I, I, I don't think it's the right decision. I think, hey, that worked really
• 48:32
  well, let's play that again. Because it is also again a backup quarterback.
• 48:36
  I don't need my backup quarterback to be the fucking most dynamic guy on the
• 48:39
  field. I need him to be efficient and not turn the ball over. By the
• 48:41
  way, Tyler Bagent turns it over. Was the Vikings quarterback in
• 48:45
  one of their better seasons. Yeah, 10 years, whatever it was,
• 48:48
  9 years ago. They know how to play the fucking Packers. Like, he knows
• 48:52
  how to play in Green Bay. Like, come on. Um, so I'm
• 48:57
  side-eyeing Ben Johnson. He has not lost my, like, faith,
• 49:00
  but I am side-eyeing a little bit of, of I'm side-eyeing
• 49:04
  him more than I was a couple weeks ago. Let's just say that.
• 49:07
  And I am— I really would like Caleb to come back now. I agree completely,
• 49:11
  wholeheartedly. Now let's go ahead and talk about this really
• 49:15
  quick. The Chargers are 0-5. It's a disaster.
• 49:19
  But can I really quickly, and something you're not expecting
• 49:23
  from me, defend the Chargers for a second?
• 49:27
  I can't— I'm not gonna stop you. Holy fuck, that is a very injured,
• 49:30
  uh, offensive line. They have no targets for him to
• 49:35
  throw to. Everyone's hurt and they look like shit.
• 49:38
  This is a disaster from every single angle. I don't see any
• 49:42
  way out. It's like they're trapped in a corner and
• 49:45
  there's just— it's like, it's like muskets. There's like 10 muskets
• 49:50
  on them and they're tucked in a corner. Okay, there's nothing they
• 49:54
  can do to win. They're fucking fucked. You know what, I'm gonna I'm
• 49:58
  gonna concede that because this might actually help what I'm trying
• 50:02
  to do here. Okay. Sometimes you're on a bad team that
• 50:07
  the roster sucks. Maybe you've got a lame duck head coach. Maybe,
• 50:10
  maybe you know that this team is starting to give up on you and
• 50:15
  you have to perform anyway. And this is a, this is maybe it's a
• 50:19
  2-win team or maybe it's a no-win team, but they're bad, right?
• 50:23
  Real bad. There's a quarterback that comes to mind that I feel like
• 50:29
  might be a perfect sort of comp here for what
• 50:32
  Justin Herbert is dealing with. So I'm going to introduce a
• 50:37
  new sort of mini segment called Blackball
• 50:41
  Watch. Ooh. Okay. Blackball. And this
• 50:44
  is my case to blackball Justin
• 50:48
  Herbert from the NFL. I think it's time.
• 50:52
  We set a standard, right? We set a standard for what it takes to blackball
• 50:56
  an NFL quarterback. Okay. So I'm going to show
• 51:00
  you a graphic. We're going to compare Justin Herbert's last 6 games to
• 51:04
  Colin Kaepernick's final 6 games in the NFL. Mocha, will you bring up
• 51:09
  that for me? Okay, here we go. So this
• 51:13
  is Colin Kaepernick in his final 6 games for a horrible,
• 51:17
  talentless 49ers team with a lame duck head coach.
• 51:20
  Knowing that they were not going to want to bring him back after a whole
• 51:24
  season of being lambasted in the national
• 51:27
  media for kneeling to protest police brutality.
• 51:31
  And this is Justin Herbert, whose biggest issue
• 51:35
  he's ever had in his career is Brandon Staley not
• 51:40
  being as good as people thought he was going to be and getting made fun
• 51:43
  of for making out with Madison Beer before the fucking season started.
• 51:47
  Now, if you look at these numbers side by side,
• 51:51
  this one side, Colin Kaepernick's numbers, those numbers— 11 touchdowns,
• 51:54
  2 picks, 96.4 passer rating,
• 51:57
  220 rushing yards in 6 games.
• 52:00
  Pretty good. That got him blackballed. Now we look over at Justin Herbert.
• 52:04
  I mean, listen, everybody said those numbers for Colin Kaepernick were not good
• 52:08
  enough. He was not good enough to play in the NFL anymore. He was bad.
• 52:11
  That's why he— no, he didn't get blackballed. He was bad, right? He wasn't a
• 52:14
  good quarterback. So if that's the case, I— and we look over at what Justin
• 52:18
  Herbert's done for us, I think, I think he's fucked. I think he's got to
• 52:22
  go. And so that's my big takeaway from this
• 52:26
  game. The, the Broncos have no fucking offense, a useless-ass
• 52:30
  offense. It's all defense. Okay, fine. You— all
• 52:34
  you had to do was hang a little bit in there with Bo Nix.
• 52:38
  Couldn't do it. I think it's time to blackball
• 52:42
  Justin Herbert from the NFL.
• 52:45
  That's quite literally all I have to say.
• 52:49
  No notes. It's perfect. Great. Your, your, your,
• 52:52
  your thought process is sound. Your evidence is absolutely accurate.
• 52:56
  He's just not good enough. That's what we were told at the time. It had
• 53:00
  nothing to do with the social justice shit. No, no. Had nothing to do with
• 53:04
  kneeling. He wasn't good enough at the time. Um, and I— you know what,
• 53:07
  you're right, he's not good enough. So they told us Justin
• 53:11
  Herbert needs to go. This is what's not— it doesn't matter that you're on a
• 53:14
  bad team, it doesn't matter that there's a bunch of shit going on, it doesn't
• 53:17
  matter that the head coach isn't doing their job, it doesn't matter.
• 53:20
  Because at the end of the day, he— that's what
• 53:24
  everyone said, he just— he was a trash quarterback. Well, if he was trash,
• 53:27
  then, then Justin Herbert is,
• 53:31
  is a dumpster that has been set on fire.
• 53:34
  A dumpster full of cow manure that has been set on fire.
• 53:39
  Time to go. It's time for you to go. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry
• 53:42
  to hear it. I'm so sorry to say it. Listen, it's right there. I'm just
• 53:44
  looking something up real quick because I am interested. Okay, I just— what I,
• 53:47
  I thought it was— yeah, Chip Kelly was the head coach of that team that
• 53:50
  year. Really good NFL head coach, Chip Kelly.
• 53:54
  Really remembered for really changing the game and doing amazing things.
• 53:57
  Just Just continues to fuck every team he goes to. Just really
• 54:01
  well regarded, that Chip Kelly.
• 54:05
  Um, so yeah, I, I didn't think that you were gonna have a ton of
• 54:08
  pushbacks. I have one final thought that I want to get in before we go,
• 54:11
  uh, and move on to, uh, different pastures here. Uh,
• 54:16
  Jets defense, we got to shout out Aaron Glenn. He's a meme monster, number one.
• 54:20
  I love a meme guy. Great memes coming from Aaron Glenn on the sideline.
• 54:23
  He's very animated, very fun, very cool. The Jets defense, um,
• 54:26
  in their second year with Aaron Glenn is looking a lot better. They are 4th
• 54:30
  in the league and, you know, in, in, um, yards. They got an interception.
• 54:32
  So overall defense, they finally got an interception.
• 54:35
  Um, and I think that's what's so interesting is they are, they are one of
• 54:38
  the better defenses in the league statistically, even without that like really
• 54:43
  being able to do much against the pass game. It's all been with their pass
• 54:46
  rush. Um, they have 17 sacks in 5
• 54:50
  games. David Bailey is the 2nd player,
• 54:54
  um, over the last 20 seasons with 15+ tackles and 5
• 54:57
  sacks in their first 5 career games, along with Chris Jones
• 55:02
  and Von Miller. Ever heard of them? Uh, I'm just really happy to
• 55:06
  see that not only is Geno playing really, really well, really well, really well,
• 55:10
  but he's also got that defense with the sort of hamstrung,
• 55:14
  um, you know, personnel that he's got in the
• 55:18
  secondary doing some cool shit. And I just, you know,
• 55:21
  you— again, we like football here. Yes, we actually don't always want
• 55:25
  to shit talk everything. No, no, we try to enjoy it. Yeah. So, you know,
• 55:28
  I just feel like we've enjoyed football for this, this entire 45,
• 55:32
  55 minutes. I did just try to blackball Justin Herbert. That was fair.
• 55:36
  That's different. That's very fair. Otherwise, I'm loving football
• 55:39
  and I'm loving Aaron Glenn, and I'm, I'm actually really happy with the
• 55:43
  fact that the Jets are playing fun, interesting football. Agreed. Great. Good stuff.
• 55:48
  Okay, good stuff. Fucking football, people. Fucking football.
• 55:52
  All right, let's get to headline number 2. It took us nearly an hour,
• 55:55
  as it always does now. It does. Football season, baby. Yeah. I mean, we can't—
• 55:58
  what are we going to skip games? What are we going to do? No,
• 56:00
  we got to talk about it. That was with us skipping games, by the way.
• 56:03
  We didn't— we never do every game. We still hit an hour. We didn't need
• 56:06
  those ones. It's fine. WNBA Finals Game 3 and 4
• 56:10
  have moved to State Farm Arena to accommodate more fans. The Dream have
• 56:14
  secured Nice. An actual arena. Did you know about this drama?
• 56:17
  I, I heard about it, but I didn't know the entire details.
• 56:20
  So they play in a 3,500-person— seriously?
• 56:24
  Yeah, they play in like a fucking rec spot. Yes.
• 56:27
  And, um, because obviously they have exploded in popularity,
• 56:30
  because the attendance has gotten crazy, all this stuff, they were like, we cannot play
• 56:34
  in this fucking arena for the WNBA Finals. Yeah. Um, but they had not had
• 56:37
  that figured out by the time the Dream actually made the WNBA
• 56:41
  Finals because they didn't know if the Dream were going to make the WNBA Finals.
• 56:43
  And this is the whole issue with having these arenas that are too small for
• 56:46
  the, like, the far— these— this league being far more popular
• 56:50
  than it has ever been. Um, so they secured State
• 56:54
  Farm Arena. The Hawks worked with them. They moved their game around.
• 56:58
  So they actually moved their game, and the WNBA actually rearranged
• 57:01
  the schedule slightly to accommodate all this happening so that, you know,
• 57:05
  um, which— that is what needed to happen. Yeah, absolutely. That's fair.
• 57:09
  People were a little concerned about the Like the hot—
• 57:12
  there's a somber concert, there was a game, it was a whole fucking thing.
• 57:15
  They've got it figured out. Good. Um, here's what I really
• 57:18
  think is, is interesting. I mean, people were very mad. They were very mad about
• 57:22
  this whole thing, blaming the Dream, blaming the WNBA, blaming— it's very hard when
• 57:26
  you can't exist in— when you have to like book an arena
• 57:30
  for this time. Like, you can't just do it ahead of time. Yeah,
• 57:33
  but you can't because what happens is like you can't commit to being
• 57:37
  there, right? Like, you're like, I don't know if we're gonna be in the WNBA
• 57:39
  Finals. And like, so you're not like— a stadium's not going to hold those,
• 57:43
  those dates for you in the middle of the NBA preseason and like all
• 57:46
  the concerts and everything else just in case you make the WNBA Finals.
• 57:50
  I, I'll never forget it. I remember the first time the Astros made the,
• 57:53
  the playoffs before their run. Taylor Swift had to cancel a concert at Minute Maid
• 57:57
  Park, and it was a whole thing. And I remember I very cleverly wrote
• 58:01
  a tweet, well, you better get ready for a very passive-aggressive song about Houston
• 58:04
  Astros because it's going to be a fucking hit about how she had to cancel
• 58:08
  a concert. Yeah, the song never came, but Taylor Swift very graciously
• 58:12
  canceled the concert and moved it to another date. But that was like, that was
• 58:15
  the first time I ever saw that where a team did this. Now this is
• 58:17
  like obviously a slightly different situation, but I'm glad they figured
• 58:22
  it out. But also, uh, the Dream gonna get a fucking new stadium or
• 58:25
  are they gonna fucking start playing? So they're gonna start playing in State Farm next
• 58:28
  year. Awesome. Yeah, and that's been in the works. Good. Um, so I have a
• 58:32
  graph I want to show you for the WNBA average home attendance. Um, that just
• 58:36
  sort of kind of, you know, while we're talking about this,
• 58:39
  I just want you to see exactly, um,
• 58:43
  where they are attendance-wise over the last few years. Do you have that graphic?
• 58:47
  Um, so this is since 2022.
• 58:50
  Now this doesn't show previously, but it had already been growing. These like
• 58:54
  home crowd attendances had already been growing prior
• 58:58
  to 2022 even. So these numbers that you're seeing are up and up.
• 59:01
  I went to 2 Sparks games this year. Yeah, absolutely. And like what
• 59:05
  you're seeing, so the, the Valkyrie in their first year were
• 59:09
  the best attended team in the league. They were the best attended
• 59:13
  team. Again, part of that is because they have, uh,
• 59:17
  uh, the capacity. So when you look at these,
• 59:20
  it looks like, oh my God, the Fever are so much, you know,
• 59:23
  whatever, the Fever and the Valkyrie, and they're like so much better than Liberty.
• 59:27
  Well, no, I mean, they just accommodated stadiums
• 59:31
  for fans to go to, and then fans go, right? Like, yes,
• 59:34
  partially. Obviously there's like the, the popularity of the players,
• 59:38
  and Caitlin Clark brought, you know, the fever, all the— but like, that's— they also—
• 59:42
  that was part of it as well. But now New York is catching up to
• 59:44
  them. Like, yeah, and obviously the Valkyries has just been killing it. New York was
• 59:48
  always really, you know, high. Obviously Seattle was always one of the best teams
• 59:52
  in the league, so they're way up there and always were. By the way,
• 59:54
  the Sparks had a bad year and they really kind of got up there and
• 59:57
  attendance. That's pretty cool to see. So I just wanted everybody to see sort of
• 1:00:00
  like, that's where we're at. That's in the— that's in the graduates. But you can
• 1:00:04
  see that it was already starting to happen. And so, you know, time— what was
• 1:00:08
  that? Rae Burrell's on the team. That's right. Big fan. And we're not being weird
• 1:00:12
  about it. We're just saying we're big fans. Just big fan. Yeah, big fan of
• 1:00:14
  Rae Burrell. Of her game. Of her game only, obviously. No, that's how I totally
• 1:00:19
  am about all these players. I just love their game. I do love her game.
• 1:00:23
  She's got a great game. That is factual. Yes. I do not like you
• 1:00:27
  putting anything else on that. No, no, no. And you know what? That's so— that's
• 1:00:30
  the thing about the WNBA is it really challenges us all in that way,
• 1:00:33
  in a way that like no other league does. I am a straight person for
• 1:00:37
  the most part, and I have a hard— I'm like, be normal, Tonya.
• 1:00:41
  Be normal about the— they're amazing athletes because sometimes it
• 1:00:45
  is— they're other— other leagues aren't bringing the heat the way that— no,
• 1:00:49
  they are not. They just aren't. They are not. They're not. Bring some more heat,
• 1:00:52
  guys. Like, we're, we're getting our asses kicked. That's a fucking runway show
• 1:00:56
  every game. It is to live in a world where multiple women have insisted
• 1:01:00
  that Joe Burrow is hot. Really? Joe Burrow?
• 1:01:04
  He's not a bad looking guy. He's so ugly to me. Like, when I tell
• 1:01:07
  you, when I see a white boy, he's not your style. But even then,
• 1:01:11
  he looks, he looks like Kevin McCallister. He— no,
• 1:01:17
  really? No, it's worse. Like, it's got a real Macaulay Culkin thing. I don't think
• 1:01:21
  people see him like without like sunglasses and like trying to like look cool very
• 1:01:25
  often, but he looks like a little kid who should always have
• 1:01:29
  like— who has like a chapped ring around his lips all the time.
• 1:01:33
  That's what he looks like to me. He just looks like somebody that would star
• 1:01:36
  in Mallrats in 1993. I just can't. So anyway,
• 1:01:39
  that's— yeah, thank you WNBA. Um, let's do the best. Let's talk MLB
• 1:01:43
  playoffs real quick. Please, let's do it. Because typically I don't really— I
• 1:01:47
  I do. I don't necessarily need to talk about Indians-Rays
• 1:01:51
  or Guardians-Rays. Guardians-Rays. Guardians-Rays.
• 1:01:55
  Because like, I just don't care, to be honest. I get it. I find
• 1:02:00
  this— I find the NLCS a lot more interesting. It is a lot more interesting
• 1:02:03
  because of the— because of the stakes. Yes. Like Guardians or Rays make— I
• 1:02:08
  mean, I would love for the Guardians to make a World Series again.
• 1:02:12
  Like they got that— the way they lost to the Cubs was like So brutal
• 1:02:17
  and no one ever talks about it. Like, 3-1, and not even like— and the
• 1:02:20
  way Game 7 ended too. Like, oh, you mean the rain delay in the 9th
• 1:02:24
  and after they got the lead back and then gave up the lead? They got
• 1:02:27
  really, really— like, that was what— that was like an all-time brutal beat.
• 1:02:31
  And, and Guardians fans are great. They've hung in there, they've stayed true.
• 1:02:35
  So props to them. I would love to see them over the Rays. They're up
• 1:02:38
  1-0 right now. Yeah, I mean, I'm a Red Sox fan. I'm not rooting for
• 1:02:41
  them. Listen, no, if I had my choice between seeing Cleveland Guardians or the Rays
• 1:02:44
  in the World Series, I would take the Cleveland Guardians. Yeah, for sure. And it's
• 1:02:47
  not because I dislike the Rays. It's just it's the fucking Rays. Like,
• 1:02:50
  no one gives a shit about the Rays. People in Tampa don't give a shit
• 1:02:53
  about the Rays. I'm not trying to be an asshole. I truly am not.
• 1:02:57
  The Rays are amazing. The Rays are fucking amazing. It's not— they have an amazing
• 1:03:00
  team. Just no one fucking cares. It's just I,
• 1:03:04
  I wish there was another way for me to fucking say this. You're not wrong.
• 1:03:07
  And that's— by the way, it's not just It's not just the Rays, like South
• 1:03:11
  Florida sports. It's all like, no one cares about the Marlins. No one. Like,
• 1:03:14
  they just don't fucking care. They don't care. I wish they did, because then
• 1:03:18
  I would maybe care a little more. You can barely get them to care
• 1:03:22
  about like the Lightning, who are like, we're a dynasty for a fucking— or the
• 1:03:25
  fucking Heat. Like, the Heat without LeBron, you can't get people to go to those
• 1:03:28
  goddamn games. Um, let's talk about Brewers-Dodgers,
• 1:03:32
  because the Dodgers are in serious trouble. They are in fucking serious trouble.
• 1:03:36
  They're down 2 games to the— to the, uh, the Dodgers are down 2
• 1:03:40
  games to the Brewers, and they lost game 2, 7-4,
• 1:03:44
  um, chasing Yamamoto after just 2 and a half innings, which is fucking
• 1:03:48
  crazy. Insane. That's insane. Insane. Uh,
• 1:03:52
  William Contreras delivered 3 hits and 3 RBIs.
• 1:03:55
  This guy, this has been his coming out party. He's pimping singles, he's pimping home
• 1:03:59
  runs. For nearly 40 seconds to round the fucking bases. I love it. Because he
• 1:04:02
  needed— you know I love it. He needed to stop between second and third.
• 1:04:04
  To fucking hype up the crowd in left field because he fucking needed to take
• 1:04:07
  those 10 seconds to do it. You know what, I agree, he needed those fucking
• 1:04:10
  10 seconds to do it. Fuck, this is electric.
• 1:04:13
  This team is electric. Pat Murphy's got them playing on every fucking cylinder.
• 1:04:16
  They are, they are little gnats. They just constantly kill you with
• 1:04:20
  a thousand cuts and it's fucking getting to the dog. Seeing them get under the
• 1:04:23
  skin of Yamamoto, I've never seen Yamamoto be gotten to. Yeah, never one fucking
• 1:04:27
  time. I couldn't fucking believe my eyes. I thought the
• 1:04:31
  Dodgers were going to win game 2 with ease because Yamamoto was going to throw
• 1:04:34
  8 innings shutout fucking baseball, maybe give up 1 run.
• 1:04:38
  Logan Henderson, by the way, looked like shit, threw away 2 balls. Dodgers got 4
• 1:04:41
  runs because Logan Henderson threw away 2 balls and gave them 2 extra
• 1:04:45
  runs. Dodgers are not hitting. They're not fucking hitting.
• 1:04:49
  They are not manufacturing runs. They're not hitting for fucking power. Ohtani is
• 1:04:53
  clearly fucking hurt. By the way, it just got announced Ohtani is going to start
• 1:04:56
  in tomorrow's game. Which I'm fine with because at the end of the day,
• 1:04:58
  I don't give a fuck if his arm is sawed off. I will take a
• 1:05:01
  shot on Shohei Ohtani running into something because he's Shohei Ohtani.
• 1:05:04
  But clearly he's playing with a broken spine. I don't know what's wrong with
• 1:05:08
  him, but we're gonna find out. He's got like fucking like a lacerated
• 1:05:12
  kidney and he's actually playing with 9 bullet wounds in his chest.
• 1:05:17
  That's what we're gonna find out. But right now he's playing. I think he's
• 1:05:20
  just hurt like a regular baseball player. He's not regular. He's a unicorn.
• 1:05:24
  You can't— you Bullet wounds is the only way to take this guy out.
• 1:05:27
  Hey, listen, if that— if that's— if that's something that impresses
• 1:05:31
  you, I have a dude from like the 2001
• 1:05:34
  Celtics that'll blow your mind. Survived 11
• 1:05:37
  stab wounds and then played. Oh, I thought you— I thought you were bringing up
• 1:05:41
  Paul Pierce when I was— I need to shit. No, I was bringing up Paul
• 1:05:44
  Pierce getting stabbed. Oh, I thought you were talking about the time he needed to
• 1:05:47
  shit and had to be coming out. I was talking— I was talking about a
• 1:05:49
  dude getting stabbed like 9 to 11 times and then
• 1:05:52
  actually playing the entire season. I agree. Remember that time we needed to take a
• 1:05:56
  shit? The only reason we know that, by the way, is because he told us.
• 1:05:58
  I know, we never would have known. I still don't
• 1:06:03
  even fucking love Paul Pierce. I'm not gonna lie, I don't even know if I
• 1:06:05
  believe him. I do. Um, I— well, no, because I think it's worse. I just
• 1:06:10
  think he didn't— I think he was like, it could have been worse. Do you
• 1:06:12
  know what I mean? Because like, it could be worse than even
• 1:06:16
  that. And it is Paul Pierce, because him just flopping and just like needing
• 1:06:20
  a timeout or whatever I don't think he did that. Like, it does actually seem
• 1:06:24
  more like— but still, it's wild. But wouldn't Paul Pierce do that? He would do
• 1:06:28
  all of it. So I don't fucking know. Again, you probably need to go in
• 1:06:31
  and take a little cocaine or something. Close to death. I know. I don't know
• 1:06:34
  what his problem is. I can't tell you this enough. I fucking love Paul Pierce.
• 1:06:38
  Fellow L.A. local. Fellow L.A. local. Inglewood.
• 1:06:41
  So yeah, the, the depth and bullpen are really exposing the Dodgers
• 1:06:46
  right now. The Milwaukee— they really are across the board. Perfect game
• 1:06:50
  yesterday for the bullpen yesterday. They, they look phenomenal. Uh, Pat Murphy,
• 1:06:54
  kudos to Pat Murphy and everything he's do— he's created. Pat Murphy, I know you're
• 1:06:57
  a big Pat Murphy guy, right? Are you? Well, I've known Pat a long time.
• 1:07:00
  No, no, I, I played for Pat for 4 years. I, I like Pat.
• 1:07:04
  Yeah, I don't love Pat, but I like Pat. You've always been complimentary about his
• 1:07:08
  skill set. Oh no, Pat Murphy as a manager, actually, I don't love his managerial
• 1:07:13
  of a game at all. Oh, uh, but right now he's just— he just does
• 1:07:16
  what the numbers say now. Like, it's been funny, it's been really weird. This has
• 1:07:19
  been really weird, this thing. But by the way, I don't blame Pat Murphy for
• 1:07:22
  doing that. He play the numbers, play the numbers. I mean, that's exactly what Dave
• 1:07:25
  Roberts does. Dave Roberts doesn't manage the game. No, he does actually, believe it or
• 1:07:28
  not. He takes the numbers and uses them, but he doesn't just play the numbers.
• 1:07:31
  He used to play the numbers and it bit him on the ass too many
• 1:07:33
  times, and now he kind of takes it and goes— he, he's gotten the leeway
• 1:07:36
  to do it. Uh, finally. It took, it took 2020.
• 1:07:40
  I think it took 2020. No, because that When, when,
• 1:07:44
  when they, they won that one and then would they lose?
• 1:07:48
  Have they lost one since? They lost in 2021. The Braves
• 1:07:51
  won that one. Yeah, he was not running that fight because they made crazy choices.
• 1:07:55
  I was like, there's no way Dave Roberts would fucking do this. Well, anyways,
• 1:07:58
  Pat Murphy definitely plays the numbers. But what Pat does, he's really good specifically
• 1:08:02
  with a grouping of young guys. And that's a young roster. Yeah,
• 1:08:05
  young grouping of players. If, if he can get those guys Pat
• 1:08:10
  got— I think Pat like hates me now because I say— I've said this
• 1:08:14
  about him so many times, but it's truly the most astute and honest
• 1:08:18
  like description of him. Pat Murphy, and I said it just
• 1:08:22
  now on like VC a minute ago, Pat Murphy is a like a con man,
• 1:08:25
  like an outrageously gifted con
• 1:08:29
  man who just instead of robbing banks
• 1:08:33
  and being the worst piece of shit in the world decided to be a Major
• 1:08:36
  League Baseball manager and uses his con man fucking skills to convince every
• 1:08:40
  single one of those players that they are the greatest player who's ever lived.
• 1:08:44
  And he really gets them to believe it. He got me to believe it for
• 1:08:47
  years. How he is able to manipulate a room is actually
• 1:08:51
  quite staggering. Um, and it's really honestly fun to watch, especially when you know
• 1:08:55
  that's what he's doing, uh, because he just knows how to play the charm.
• 1:08:58
  He's the most charming man in the fucking world.
• 1:09:01
  And he can play the charm in every possible way. Like, if you're a kid,
• 1:09:05
  he knows it. Oh, it's an unbelievable skill set. He's unbelievable
• 1:09:09
  at it. And I mean that from the greatest compliment in the world. Does Pat
• 1:09:12
  Murphy have flaws? Oh, you fucking betcha. Do you got an hour and a half?
• 1:09:16
  You got 2 hours? Let's sit down. I'll tell you all about him. But what
• 1:09:20
  Pat Murphy is good at, he might be the very best at. And what
• 1:09:24
  he's accomplishing with this team is amazing. Pat Murphy has already turned
• 1:09:28
  himself into a folk hero. And knowing Pat Murphy, it was only a matter of
• 1:09:32
  time before he got in the mainstream as a folk hero. Would you ever hear
• 1:09:34
  about Terry Francona? Similar shit. Very similar shit.
• 1:09:38
  Always can handle the room, knows how to fucking do baseball
• 1:09:42
  managerial skills. Sure, handles a game fine,
• 1:09:46
  but that's not what he's good at. What he's good at is handling young players
• 1:09:50
  and players in general and getting players to do things. By the way, not just—
• 1:09:53
  not young players, because This is also what Dave Roberts is good at.
• 1:09:56
  Superstars. Exactly. Because when you—
• 1:10:00
  there is a very, very special skill set you have to have to handle
• 1:10:04
  a bunch of random motherfuckers. Yeah, that's what Pat Murphy's not good at. Right.
• 1:10:07
  Which is why that specific team has to be— when Pat Murphy was the manager
• 1:10:11
  of the San Diego Padres, there were superstars on that team. Matt Kemp, BJ Upton,
• 1:10:14
  Justin Upton, like guys that have been there. They were not—
• 1:10:18
  Kate Upton. Kate Upton also probably popped by once or twice. No,
• 1:10:22
  they— that clubhouse. Was not buying into
• 1:10:25
  Pat Murphy shit. Yeah, they were, they were having fucking none of
• 1:10:29
  it. I know because I was there. But you get them in this locker room,
• 1:10:32
  they're having it and they are buying in. And when you get a whole team
• 1:10:35
  that buys in like that into like, more or less— and I apologize
• 1:10:38
  for this because it's going to sound demeaning, it's not meant to be because I
• 1:10:41
  mean this is very much a compliment— but kind of taking in that like college
• 1:10:44
  mentality. I was gonna say, this is— there's a, there's a style of college
• 1:10:49
  coaching that is very much, you know,
• 1:10:52
  that's what you're describing, is can you take a bunch of young guys and mold
• 1:10:56
  them and do whatever? And that's why a lot of college football coaches, let's say,
• 1:11:00
  do not translate to the NFL. And that's why you don't see a lot of
• 1:11:03
  college coaches in the, in, in Major League Baseball. Pat Murphy is
• 1:11:06
  one of the most storied college baseball coaches of all time at Arizona State,
• 1:11:09
  and it took him a long time to get— that's why Chris loves him.
• 1:11:12
  Yeah, it took him a long time to get that pro ball all, uh,
• 1:11:15
  credibility. It honestly took him going to the Brewers, being a bench
• 1:11:19
  coach for years— and there were a couple years when he was that bench coach,
• 1:11:21
  he was kind of eating some shit— that until he kind of was
• 1:11:25
  able to do his Pat Murphy thing,
• 1:11:28
  convince everybody there that he's the greatest thing in the world, and then he just
• 1:11:32
  slid right into the manager job. Sometimes it's just the right coach meets
• 1:11:36
  the right roster. Yes. And you know, like you said, he might— this might be
• 1:11:40
  the one, and this might be the one time he ever finds a roster that
• 1:11:43
  works for him. But when it works, it works. So, um, uh,
• 1:11:47
  couldn't happen to a better group of guys. I'm loving Dodgers.
• 1:11:50
  It's not over yet, but like, I think— I do think this is going to
• 1:11:53
  be a series. I think the Dodgers are going to wake up. They fucking better.
• 1:11:55
  If they don't, I don't think they're going to get swept. If they win— if
• 1:11:58
  they lose tomorrow, this series is a wrap. But if they win tomorrow, I— this—
• 1:12:03
  I think this series is going back to Milwaukee. Let's go over
• 1:12:07
  to Media Corner. Um, have you followed at all the way
• 1:12:11
  Adam Schefter reported the Cardinals trading Marvin Harrison Jr.?
• 1:12:15
  Sure, sure, sure. Let me say this fully, fully through, just in
• 1:12:18
  case I clip this for the internet. Do it. Have you followed completely
• 1:12:22
  the way that Adam Schefter has reported on the trading
• 1:12:26
  of Marvin Harrison Jr.? Sure have. I thought you had.
• 1:12:29
  A little shady, right? A little weird.
• 1:12:33
  Sure is. We all got that notification and thought, is there— did
• 1:12:37
  it— did they forget the second part? Did we all have that weird moment?
• 1:12:41
  I did. Okay. Perfect.
• 1:12:46
  On Saturday, Schefter reported that the Cardinals were finalizing a trade
• 1:12:50
  involving Marvin Harrison Jr., the 4th overall pick in the 2024 NFL Draft.
• 1:12:54
  Curiously, the report didn't include any details on
• 1:12:58
  where Harrison was being sent or what the Cardinals would receive
• 1:13:02
  in return. Schefter's original report included only that Harrison was informed he'd be inactive for
• 1:13:07
  Sunday's game against the Lions. Other reporters quickly added details after Schefter's
• 1:13:11
  initial report. Florio wrote that the wide receiver was likely headed to the Houston Texans,
• 1:13:15
  and The Athletic's Jonathan Jones later confirmed it. Later on
• 1:13:18
  Saturday, Schefter also confirmed that the Texans were most likely trade partner
• 1:13:22
  for Harrison, although nothing definitive was reported.
• 1:13:25
  Lots of theories on this framed the report, you know,
• 1:13:29
  different ways. Some believed he was trying to juice the market for Harrison's trade value.
• 1:13:33
  Other teams knew Harrison was being traded. Maybe they'd come in with a stronger offer
• 1:13:37
  than the Cardinals already had on the table. Others pointed to Schefter's relationship
• 1:13:40
  with the fantasy sports and prediction market operator Underdog
• 1:13:44
  as being the impetus. He was an early investor in the company.
• 1:13:47
  The open-ended nature of Schefter's report could spike trading volume on
• 1:13:51
  the site, it was suggested. Could it? Could that happen?
• 1:13:55
  No. Continue, Tanya. So Schefter
• 1:13:59
  defends himself and says, I saw some of these comments. I'm like, what do people
• 1:14:02
  want us to do? Like, that was the situation. Harrison was told he was inactive.
• 1:14:05
  He was told he was being traded. I think we all suspected that it was
• 1:14:08
  going to be the Houston Texans. We linked to them right away. And so people
• 1:14:11
  think you're heading— holding information. Like, no, I needed to be able to report the
• 1:14:15
  team. Like, you need somebody to say we're getting this done. Nobody in Arizona
• 1:14:19
  was saying Houston. Nobody in Houston was saying Houston. So if I put out
• 1:14:23
  there that he's being traded to Houston and all of a sudden they played the
• 1:14:25
  game Sunday and let's just say Houston loses and they decide to back out and
• 1:14:29
  they trade him to the Colts, then you're wrong, right?
• 1:14:33
  Uh, listen, Schefter, I don't know if you know this,
• 1:14:36
  but when you're told that a player is being traded somewhere and
• 1:14:41
  then the trade is canceled and then they send him somewhere else,
• 1:14:45
  you just report that. He's acting like—
• 1:14:49
  he's like, well, what am I supposed to do? What if I was wrong?
• 1:14:51
  First of all, this is It's fucking insane. I swear
• 1:14:54
  to God, these people think we're dumb. What you— yes, we all know. You report
• 1:14:58
  this, he's being traded. Word on the street is that it's the Texans. The Texans
• 1:15:01
  are the number one option. That's who they're in talks with right now. We think
• 1:15:05
  he's going to the Texans. If the Texans back out, you report that the Texans
• 1:15:08
  backed out. And when he goes to the Colts, let's say, or whatever else,
• 1:15:11
  then you report that. That's your fucking job. But what do
• 1:15:15
  you think about the little theories around, I don't know, the prediction market, maybe juicing
• 1:15:18
  his fucking value for the teams. And the— uh,
• 1:15:22
  would this be news to us about how Adam Schefter operates as one of the
• 1:15:26
  shadiest fucking insiders we've ever seen? By the way,
• 1:15:30
  Adam Schefter just saying that, like, I am claiming journalistic
• 1:15:34
  integrity on this, like, well, I didn't know for sure, I,
• 1:15:37
  I've never speculated. Fuck me.
• 1:15:41
  Also, you did know for sure because Florio and Jonathan— they all
• 1:15:44
  had it. So fucking everyone had it, including you. You didn't
• 1:15:48
  specify on it. And yes, I knew— I would love to know,
• 1:15:51
  does Florio have, uh, certain points in certain gambling apps
• 1:15:55
  and prediction market apps? Does, does any of the others? I know
• 1:15:58
  you fucking do. And I know the only insider that promoted
• 1:16:02
  anything around this trade that didn't specify a team, and the
• 1:16:06
  only reason I can possibly come up to why is because someone's seen
• 1:16:10
  how a lot of people has made a lot of money on wars over the
• 1:16:14
  last couple of years. I don't know what to say other than there's only one
• 1:16:18
  reason someone would do this. You're omitting.
• 1:16:22
  You know you're omitting. Why are you omitting? And your,
• 1:16:25
  your response to your omission is journalistic integrity?
• 1:16:29
  Adam Schefter? Yeah. Fucking what?
• 1:16:33
  I'm not fucking— what? This was— I'm not gonna lie, this was like
• 1:16:37
  a— I, I've, I've been done with Schefter This is not
• 1:16:42
  like a thing where I'm like, oh, I'm so disappointed. But this was sort of
• 1:16:45
  a final straw for me. Par for the course to me. Like,
• 1:16:48
  this was like a, like, oh, you actually think
• 1:16:52
  we are that dumb? You think we're that dumb?
• 1:16:56
  You think we're that dumb? We have been getting push notifications
• 1:17:00
  to our phones about trades or impending trades or
• 1:17:04
  trade shopping for fucking 15 years,
• 1:17:08
  you loser. What do you think, we're fucking new to this? Holy shit.
• 1:17:13
  And then Florio comes out, he's like, it's the Texans. And Jonathan Jones like,
• 1:17:15
  it's the Texans. And he's like, well, exactly, I was thinking also that it might
• 1:17:19
  be the Texans. What I didn't want to say because of my journalistic integrity for
• 1:17:23
  all the years, honestly, Mr. Editor didn't say I
• 1:17:27
  could say it. As soon as I have money, I will invest in whoever will
• 1:17:30
  write the fucking exposé on this piece of shit. Like, truly, I love
• 1:17:34
  it. Truly, I love it. Like, who wants to do it? I'm not an investigative
• 1:17:37
  journalist. We got fucking notes, you know what I mean? Yeah. Um,
• 1:17:41
  I— this pissed me off, Cody. This pissed
• 1:17:45
  me off. What pissed you off? Headline, uh, uh, Media Corner
• 1:17:49
  number 2. Um, Taylor Rooks defends her friendships
• 1:17:53
  with athletes she covers. Okay, now our
• 1:17:57
  OG viewers are going to remember that we did a lot of
• 1:18:01
  conversation around this, around Diana seen it. And the double standard around deciding
• 1:18:05
  that suddenly insiders don't have relationships— by the way, Schefter,
• 1:18:08
  who we just talked about, does this. Okay. This summer, the host of Amazon
• 1:18:12
  Prime Video's NBA on Prime attended the weddings of NBA
• 1:18:15
  stars Tyrese Halliburton and Donovan Mitchell on back-to-back days, she told
• 1:18:19
  Bridget Condon during the Front Office Sports, uh, Tuned In Summit on Tuesday. Kevin Durant
• 1:18:23
  is also a close friend, she said, and he attended her wedding last year,
• 1:18:26
  and she's an equity partner in his company boardroom. She said,
• 1:18:30
  I actually think it sometimes makes me, uh, a little bit— makes it
• 1:18:33
  a little bit easier. She said, largely because a lot of those tough conversations
• 1:18:37
  you're just having already. For example, she said during Mitchell's wedding, she had a discussion
• 1:18:41
  with the Cavaliers star about why he hasn't been able to get his team over
• 1:18:44
  the hump. Uh, she said, you know, there's a lot of stuff that, like,
• 1:18:47
  in these conversations I can ask him, are you not elevating your
• 1:18:51
  teammates? I can do that thing because we have that kind of conversation like friends.
• 1:18:53
  She goes, Having private conversations about topics like that make it easier for her to
• 1:18:57
  ask hard questions when she's sitting down in a one-on-one. It's about honesty.
• 1:19:01
  Those questions are fair. Your story is your story. I think that
• 1:19:04
  one of the reasons you end up sitting with me is because there is a
• 1:19:08
  trust that exists, and that trust really is this daily deposit,
• 1:19:11
  both with the audience and with that person that you're interviewing. Now,
• 1:19:15
  Front Office Sports notes reporters getting too close with people they cover can
• 1:19:18
  lead to backlash, especially for female reporters who are often scrutinized differently. Than their male
• 1:19:22
  counterparts. She previously addressed that in a 2025 Substack
• 1:19:25
  post, uh, writing, there are people who feel that I should change my personal relationships
• 1:19:30
  with athletes simply because I'm a woman, despite the fact that male reporters have built
• 1:19:34
  their entire careers on access and relationships. She doubled down on that
• 1:19:38
  point during Tuned In. She said, this is a relationship business. This is
• 1:19:41
  about maintaining relationships and building relationships. So this
• 1:19:47
  entire piece from Front Office Sports seems like
• 1:19:50
  it is actually trying to give Taylor Rooks some credit.
• 1:19:54
  So to their credit, whatever. What's happening
• 1:19:57
  here and what I think is so cool and infuriating
• 1:20:01
  about what Taylor Rooks is doing is that she is exposing
• 1:20:05
  what has always existed between
• 1:20:09
  reporters and athletes because
• 1:20:13
  she can't get away with not doing it. Yeah, right. So we
• 1:20:18
  have seen this time and time again. We know this happens.
• 1:20:23
  We know there's these relationships. We know that they go to
• 1:20:27
  each other. Like, we know that this level of closeness between athletes exists and has
• 1:20:31
  for decades, um, between athletes and reporters,
• 1:20:34
  athletes and media people. Yes. But Taylor Rooks has figured out
• 1:20:37
  at some point very early on, because she got a ton of like bullshit,
• 1:20:40
  she was like, oh, I'm just gonna have to be out with this. And so
• 1:20:44
  I'm gonna have to kind of expose an insider secret that like,
• 1:20:48
  this is how, this is how we all operate. You just don't like that I'm
• 1:20:52
  not apologizing for it. Yeah, I love that she's like,
• 1:20:55
  oh no, I'm not apologizing. Like, I'm gonna keep giving you really good interviews and
• 1:20:58
  really good access to athletes, and this is how I'm going to do it,
• 1:21:01
  by the way. Yeah, like, where's the fucking problem?
• 1:21:06
  We just, we just showed you someone who constantly says that they're unbiased,
• 1:21:09
  who literally won't report anything real anymore. Why are
• 1:21:13
  you fucking interviewing Taylor Rooks about her insider access and her friendship?
• 1:21:17
  So she went to Tyrese Halliburton's wedding. Guess what? He's probably gonna tell her stuff
• 1:21:20
  and then she'll report it to us. What do you want? Because she's a hot
• 1:21:24
  woman. That's literally it. That's literally it. You know how I get my
• 1:21:28
  interviews on my shows? My fucking relationships that I have from people I played with,
• 1:21:32
  people I've become friends with, people fucking I've been out with.
• 1:21:35
  And definitely not people who hate you. Like, those people are not gonna fucking interview
• 1:21:39
  you. I don't know what tell you, she's right. This is a relationship business.
• 1:21:41
  I, I don't know why we have to explain this to people. This is fucking
• 1:21:45
  maddening. Uh, like, it's just maddening. It's fucking maddening.
• 1:21:48
  I, I don't know what else to say. It's— no shit, it's a fucking relationship
• 1:21:53
  business. Like, how else do you get your goddamn information?
• 1:21:57
  And by the way, I'm not saying this to Taylor Rooks. I'm saying this that
• 1:21:59
  I'm frustrated for her that she has to fucking justify this.
• 1:22:03
  I've never heard Adam— Adam fucking, uh, Schefter fucking
• 1:22:06
  talk about this. I haven't heard fucking Glazer.
• 1:22:09
  Glazer fucking talk about this. I was out at the strip
• 1:22:14
  club last week with 9 players like that guy. Like, like the
• 1:22:18
  fact that she has to say anything is fucking maddening. And by the way,
• 1:22:22
  if you compare her to someone like Jay Glazer, who has openly been BFF
• 1:22:26
  with NFL players this entire time, let's say if you compare,
• 1:22:29
  she is so much more professional. She is so much more
• 1:22:33
  professional about it. She really does genuinely say, I'm— this
• 1:22:38
  is, this is the type of relationship I have. I'm not, I'm not like apologizing
• 1:22:41
  for it. And also, I'm not gonna bring drama to your front door. I'm not
• 1:22:44
  gonna fucking, you know— and I'm also gonna ask interesting questions, and I'm gonna earn
• 1:22:48
  the trust of these people in a way that like genuinely gets us extra access
• 1:22:53
  to their thoughts and feelings. I gotta be honest, people think that,
• 1:22:58
  oh well, if I could just interview— if I was just friends with with,
• 1:23:01
  uh, Jonathan Mitchell, I could just interview him too. If I was just friends with
• 1:23:03
  Kevin Durant, I could— no, you couldn't. Because that— this is the other thing,
• 1:23:07
  you actually have to have a fucking skill set to do this. It doesn't matter
• 1:23:10
  if you're friends with people. It doesn't matter if you have access. That doesn't matter.
• 1:23:14
  I, I am a great interviewer and I always have been.
• 1:23:19
  I would be a better interviewer than anybody who's
• 1:23:24
  also their friend because I have a fucking degree in it. I've been doing it
• 1:23:27
  my whole life. That's how this works. You don't just like figure out how
• 1:23:31
  to create a great— create a great conversation and something
• 1:23:35
  that's great for television and give it the cadence and ask the right questions and
• 1:23:37
  phrase things the right way and frame things the right way just because you know
• 1:23:41
  somebody. That's a fucking skill set. So like,
• 1:23:45
  congrats. You think that because you are— have a friend
• 1:23:49
  that's an athlete that you could just do what Taylor Rooks could do? You couldn't.
• 1:23:53
  You couldn't and you won't. So get over it.
• 1:23:58
  Yeah. Before we go— what she said— there's
• 1:24:01
  one more aspect of sports
• 1:24:06
  media that continues to treat us like we're stupid, Cody. So we're going to—
• 1:24:10
  we're going to circle back to ESPN. Oh, they're so great.
• 1:24:14
  They do everything right. No one is expecting a financial
• 1:24:18
  windfall from a potential '24 team playoff, ESPN said.
• 1:24:23
  No one is expecting a financial windfall from a
• 1:24:27
  24-team playoff. It's not— that's not what this is about, Cody.
• 1:24:30
  So again, I ask you, at this point we have to ask ourselves, how fucking
• 1:24:33
  dumb does ESPN think we are? This 24-team playoff
• 1:24:37
  would require eliminating conference championships, which would together generate about
• 1:24:40
  $300 million in revenue. That means any playoff expansion would need to offset
• 1:24:44
  the revenue loss from eliminating conference championships. It's certainly up for debate whether
• 1:24:49
  a handful of the first-round playoff games in the back half of the
• 1:24:52
  top 25 would be worth more than conference title games that involve nation's
• 1:24:56
  top teams. By the way, conference title games don't always involve nation's
• 1:25:00
  top teams, but whatever. That's the dilemma that CFP leadership and ESPN
• 1:25:04
  are currently gamed out over, with ESPN holding the player— player
• 1:25:08
  playoffs exclusive rights. Last month, the CFP opened a
• 1:25:12
  30-day negotiating window with ESPN, which ended Friday when the
• 1:25:15
  CFP sent the network a final proposal. ESPN will now have until October
• 1:25:19
  19th at the latest to agree to a deal. If no deal is reached,
• 1:25:22
  as the ongoing negotiations suggest, the CFP will take its 2014
• 1:25:26
  proposal to an open market where other networks can submit bids.
• 1:25:30
  So it's interesting that over the weekend,
• 1:25:33
  as numerous reports surfaced about the status of talks between CFP and ESPN,
• 1:25:37
  ESPN's own story said that sources told ESPN
• 1:25:41
  that no one is expecting a financial windfall from a potential '24
• 1:25:45
  playoff. Of course not. Why would— why would that happen?
• 1:25:48
  Heather— that was Heather Dinich's report. So if that were the case,
• 1:25:52
  it raises questions of why a 24-team
• 1:25:55
  format is being pursued in the first place. Yeah, why would you want it then?
• 1:25:59
  So because it would lose you money. So naturally, this is very
• 1:26:03
  obviously ESPN trying to get other networks
• 1:26:07
  not to outbid them or to compete with them by trying
• 1:26:10
  to convince them that there's no financial benefit to picking
• 1:26:14
  up a 24-team playoff. It is— ESPN
• 1:26:19
  has a financial incentive to say this, and you and
• 1:26:23
  I both know that that is so fucking stupid.
• 1:26:26
  I can't believe they're trying to sell us on it. It's one thing to sell—
• 1:26:30
  like, who is it? Who is this for?
• 1:26:33
  Like, who is this article for? Is it for the masses,
• 1:26:37
  or is it for the other companies? For Peacock and Netflix? Netflix.
• 1:26:40
  Yeah, yeah, you don't need to announce to them that they can make
• 1:26:44
  fucking a lot of money. No, it's one thing to gaslight us
• 1:26:47
  and make us think we're stupid. Convincing other networks
• 1:26:51
  that they're just fucking this inept is something else. Like, I'm like,
• 1:26:54
  this is batshit. Imagine, imagine the CEO over at
• 1:26:58
  Peacock being like, oh, but did you read the ESPN article?
• 1:27:01
  Said that they're not even— that it's not even gonna make them any money,
• 1:27:04
  so should we just not even bothered. We should just kind of let them have
• 1:27:08
  it, right?
• 1:27:10
  Right. Because, because, you know, because you know who really— listen, Fox Sports
• 1:27:15
  has its problems. We know, we worked there for a while. It has its problems.
• 1:27:18
  But it seems like when they have the sports on,
• 1:27:23
  people tend to tune in. It's literally the only thing people watch on
• 1:27:26
  television anymore. Seems to be the one thing people— but listen,
• 1:27:30
  it's not a moneymaker. That's why ESPN thinks you
• 1:27:34
  all shouldn't bid. This is,
• 1:27:38
  this is something. It's something, right? This is something.
• 1:27:41
  Maybe this was just for like David Ellison. Maybe they're just thinking David Ellison's a
• 1:27:45
  complete moron because he's just a nepo baby who's like somehow getting daddy's billions to
• 1:27:48
  connect all these companies. I'm just like, like, he won't
• 1:27:52
  bid because he's an idiot. I am genuinely like,
• 1:27:55
  what the fuck? Is wrong with you?
• 1:27:59
  I cannot believe you actually think anyone
• 1:28:02
  on planet Earth would buy that. You guys wrote this with a straight face.
• 1:28:05
  I don't, I don't respect CEOs very much to begin with. I do think half
• 1:28:08
  of them are fucking morons and the other half are like intentionally
• 1:28:12
  obtuse. But even then, this is— we're
• 1:28:16
  not in this for that. You know us, ESPN, we're just trying to give you
• 1:28:20
  guys— because another thing that this— that's not about the money. Another thing that they
• 1:28:23
  pointed out was it raises the question of why this would happen, because— or
• 1:28:27
  why a 2014 format would be pursued in the first place, because fans
• 1:28:31
  have largely spoken out against it, as have many media members. No one
• 1:28:35
  outside of networks wants this.
• 1:28:39
  No one wants this. And ESPN's like,
• 1:28:43
  we're excited to make this an exclusive. This fucking article's hilarious. What are we talking
• 1:28:46
  about anymore?
• 1:28:49
  I'm assuming Heather was told to write this. Heather, I'm so sorry.
• 1:28:53
  They're all told to write it. She did her best. She did her best.
• 1:28:57
  And I— that's why I love that she put these little extra things in here.
• 1:29:00
  And I guess she doesn't have an editor. They didn't proofread it or check— proofread's
• 1:29:03
  not the right word, but check what she wrote, because that's just fucking hilarious.
• 1:29:06
  No one wants this except for the networks, but the network is adamant we won't
• 1:29:10
  make money off of this. Then why do you want it? Why do you want
• 1:29:14
  it? Then just honestly, why do you want it? The fans don't want it.
• 1:29:16
  The leagues don't want it. The fucking— no one wants this.
• 1:29:20
  It's not the money though. It's never the money. Why would it be the money?
• 1:29:23
  Why would a 24— why would expanding the playoffs be for the money, Cody?
• 1:29:26
  What are you, crazy? What are you, fucking crazy? I don't watch the conference championships,
• 1:29:30
  but I watch the playoffs. So they're like, we might even
• 1:29:33
  actually lose money because of the— yeah, can you think of all the work
• 1:29:37
  we're gonna have to do? All the graphics we're gonna have to build?
• 1:29:41
  24 teams. Dear by George,
• 1:29:45
  how can we compete with ourselves? You mean we're
• 1:29:49
  not gonna— like, they're gonna lose so much money because Oregon and Oregon State
• 1:29:54
  or whatever the fuck aren't gonna— do you have any idea how much it costs
• 1:29:57
  to make an Oregon Beavers logo? I hate, I hate everything.
• 1:30:01
  Oh, there are 2 OSUs and they wear the same colors?
• 1:30:05
  This is gonna take weeks and millions. We're never gonna recover.
• 1:30:09
  We're not It's gonna be the fucking— I'm never gonna financially
• 1:30:13
  recover from this. The Tiger
• 1:30:17
  King. It's also Disney, is the other
• 1:30:20
  thing. Like, oh yeah, you guys are never doing it for that. We're doing it
• 1:30:24
  for the love of the game that none of you want. Disney only does things
• 1:30:27
  for love of the game, people. Oh my God, that's why they do it.
• 1:30:30
  Well, look at us, we actually did— we did pretty well. We got through all
• 1:30:33
  that. Well, we did it for love of the game too. Just like Disney.
• 1:30:37
  Yeah, I don't, I don't have anything in Pop Culture Corner this week. Who needs
• 1:30:40
  it? I don't think I'm still thinking about Lanterns and how great it was.
• 1:30:43
  Well, there's— listen, there's going to be, there's going to be a lot of
• 1:30:46
  discourse on that as more DC movies come out and everything else. So,
• 1:30:50
  you know, it is, it is what it is. Holy hell. Well, listen, guys,
• 1:30:54
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• 1:31:46
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• 1:31:49
  last show. Not ever, but for like the next month.
• 1:31:53
  Mocha, dude, we're gonna fucking miss you. Mocha, tell the people what
• 1:31:57
  you're doing. You're going on vacation and to live a new life, apparently. And fucking
• 1:32:02
  where? I'm going to Hawaii.
• 1:32:06
  Lovely, lovely. For a week, and then I'm going to Japan
• 1:32:10
  for 2 and a half weeks. Yes! And I will miss the regulars
• 1:32:14
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• 1:32:18
  a good reason for us to miss you. You need the break. It'll be great.
• 1:32:21
  But like It is gonna be weird. In,
• 1:32:24
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• 1:32:28
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• 1:32:31
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• 1:32:35
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• 1:32:39
  No, you'll be fine. It's gonna be a fucking mess. Professionals, are we?
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• 1:32:46
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• 1:32:50
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• 1:32:54
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• 1:32:57
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• 1:33:00
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• 1:33:05
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• 1:33:08
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• 1:33:12
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• 1:33:47
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