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- 0:02Speaker 1: Another one. Your tune to the Sean O'Connell Show from
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- 0:15Speaker 2: Another one all right, joining us now on the Shawn
- 0:21Speaker 2: O'Connell Show.
- 0:22Speaker 1: One of the hardest working guys in sports at the moment,
- 0:25Speaker 1: George Sadano on the ESPN coverage of these NBA Finals.
- 0:30Speaker 1: He's got his own radio show. You hear him on
- 0:32Speaker 1: play by play. Sometimes you'll see him on the sideline.
- 0:36Speaker 1: He's even made Greg Popovich smile during an interview. George Saddana,
- 0:40Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.
- 0:40Speaker 3: How are you hey, How are you man? Thanks for
- 0:43Speaker 3: having me.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Uh. Game one of these NBA Finals and New York
- 0:49Speaker 1: Knicks come away with a ten point victory. How close
- 0:52Speaker 1: did that thing play out to the way you thought
- 0:54Speaker 1: it would?
- 0:56Speaker 3: It did not play out the way I thought it would.
- 0:58Speaker 3: I thought that when San Antonio particularly pulled away and
- 1:02Speaker 3: was up fourteen in the third quarter, that they would
- 1:05Speaker 3: just kind of cruise after that. And I think the
- 1:07Speaker 3: problem was they also felt that way, and it looked
- 1:10Speaker 3: like they took their foot off the gas a little bit. Now.
- 1:13Speaker 3: They went to some substitutions to some backups there, and
- 1:16Speaker 3: the game got away from them pretty quickly there. All
- 1:18Speaker 3: of a sudden, it went from fourteen to six very quickly.
- 1:21Speaker 3: And then even when when Minyama and some of the
- 1:22Speaker 3: starters came back in, they were in a real dogfight
- 1:26Speaker 3: at that particular point. But there were a few things
- 1:28Speaker 3: that surprised me, I would say from the San Antonio side,
- 1:34Speaker 3: how far when Minyama started, when he was initiating offense
- 1:38Speaker 3: from the basket, the average was about seventeen feet, which
- 1:42Speaker 3: is way too far for someone like him. That's the
- 1:44Speaker 3: second furthest he's had this postseason. I believe it was
- 1:47Speaker 3: Game three of the Portland series in the first round,
- 1:51Speaker 3: which was the one with where he started a little
- 1:53Speaker 3: further away from the basket. And that was certainly a
- 1:55Speaker 3: thing that we saw during the Western Conference finals too,
- 1:58Speaker 3: that he kind of floated in and out in regards
- 2:01Speaker 3: to how close or far he was from the basket.
- 2:03Speaker 3: But their success clearly is when he's closer. The other thing,
- 2:07Speaker 3: the thing that didn't surprise me though, was Jalen Brunton
- 2:10Speaker 3: finishing the game the way he did, because that's just
- 2:12Speaker 3: who he's been. He was the most clutch player two
- 2:15Speaker 3: years ago in the NBA, and he continues to be
- 2:18Speaker 3: one of them, if not the most clutch player in
- 2:20Speaker 3: the sport. And we saw that on full display despite
- 2:23Speaker 3: having real struggles early on, both from an injury perspective
- 2:26Speaker 3: and from an efficiency perspective.
- 2:28Speaker 1: So the Victor win Minyama question is, you know, can
- 2:32Speaker 1: he take over in a series like this against the
- 2:35Speaker 1: team like New York and Karl Anthony Towns and Mitch Robinson.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Did I think did a good job against him in
- 2:42Speaker 1: Game one. I don't anticipate he's going to have many
- 2:45Speaker 1: games where he turns the ball over six times and
- 2:48Speaker 1: shoots poorly from three and shoots poorly from the field.
- 2:51Speaker 1: And maybe it is a product of what you were
- 2:53Speaker 1: saying initiating that offense too far away from the basket.
- 2:57Speaker 1: There's obviously a lot more to it for San Antonio
- 3:00Speaker 1: than just getting better games out of Victor wm Binyama.
- 3:03Speaker 1: But the way that he has coached and the adjustments
- 3:06Speaker 1: that we saw them make in the Western Conference Final
- 3:09Speaker 1: with him in particular, do we get that for Game
- 3:12Speaker 1: two when they take on New York again?
- 3:16Speaker 2: Oh?
- 3:17Speaker 3: Yeah, I think their level of execution was subar yesterday
- 3:20Speaker 3: in a lot of different ways, so I would imagine
- 3:24Speaker 3: we'll see him be a lot better in this next game.
- 3:27Speaker 3: I mean, think about it. He had a really bad
- 3:29Speaker 3: Game five in the Western Conference Finals, and then I
- 3:32Speaker 3: thought played phenomenally in Game six, and then in Game
- 3:34Speaker 3: seven he played very well as well against Oklahoma City.
- 3:37Speaker 1: So I'm not.
- 3:39Speaker 3: Worried much like him. I know he said something similar
- 3:42Speaker 3: yesterday in his press conference. I feel like san Antonio
- 3:44Speaker 3: will fight back and we'll.
- 3:45Speaker 2: Be one one heading back to New York.
- 3:47Speaker 3: But to me, the one thing, if I'm san Antonio,
- 3:49Speaker 3: you need to figure out what's going on with Daron
- 3:51Speaker 3: Fox because I know he's been dealing with some injuries,
- 3:53Speaker 3: but it felt at times watching him that the moment
- 3:56Speaker 3: might have been a little big for him, and I
- 3:59Speaker 3: think that he just looked really hesitant at times out there.
- 4:03Speaker 1: I was about to ask you who the second most
- 4:05Speaker 1: important player in this series is for san Antonio, and
- 4:09Speaker 1: if he's going to continue to play poorly, I think
- 4:11Speaker 1: it makes him, by default on the wrong end of
- 4:14Speaker 1: the spectrum, a more important player than maybe they want
- 4:17Speaker 1: him to be.
- 4:17Speaker 2: But is there a fix?
- 4:21Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, he's a veteran man. This is
- 4:23Speaker 3: something he's going to have to work through. And I
- 4:25Speaker 3: get it he's dealing with some injuries still, probably that ankle.
- 4:28Speaker 3: It was a high angle spraying. You don't recover from
- 4:30Speaker 3: that very quickly, So I'm not trying to give him
- 4:32Speaker 3: an excuse. It is the reality what he's dealing with.
- 4:35Speaker 3: But if you're playing, you know that's the deal. Like
- 4:37Speaker 3: the expectation is you're going to play at the very
- 4:40Speaker 3: least a level, at a level of basketball where you're
- 4:44Speaker 3: not going to be a detriment to the team. I
- 4:47Speaker 3: would say this, the one thing I would look at
- 4:49Speaker 3: if I were San Antonio is playing Dylan Harper Moore.
- 4:51Speaker 3: I know he hasn't played a ton more than twenty
- 4:53Speaker 3: eight minutes per game in any game this postseason, but
- 4:56Speaker 3: he's young and he's certainly capable, and I thought he
- 4:59Speaker 3: was their best player on the floor last night. I
- 5:02Speaker 3: do think Stefan Castle can give them a little more,
- 5:04Speaker 3: although what he gives them defensively is so impressive too.
- 5:07Speaker 3: You know, he's as good of a point of attack
- 5:10Speaker 3: defender as anyone in the sport I think right now,
- 5:13Speaker 3: and he's only in his second year. But yeah, I
- 5:15Speaker 3: think that that guard play just needs to be better.
- 5:17Speaker 3: They're at their best when Victor is doing his thing
- 5:19Speaker 3: and those three guards are cooking too. For sure.
- 5:23Speaker 1: We had Gordy Chies in studio earlier, earlier today, longtime
- 5:26Speaker 1: NBA assistant, and he pointed out the quirky, fun little
- 5:30Speaker 1: stat that Josh Hart, nobody except for Dennis Rodman has
- 5:34Speaker 1: had a game like he had in Game one with
- 5:37Speaker 1: fifteen rebounds and no turnovers and he only scored three points.
- 5:40Speaker 1: But his role in this series is that it is
- 5:43Speaker 1: that what we're going to see from him, where he's
- 5:45Speaker 1: just that guy making those hustle plays, crashing the boards
- 5:48Speaker 1: on both ends and sometimes occasionally making win Binyam's life difficult.
- 5:56Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he's best suited for. That's for sure.
- 5:58Speaker 3: It's funny you mentioned Dennis Rodman because that was the
- 6:01Speaker 3: same comparison that Carl Anthony Towns just made to me
- 6:03Speaker 3: just literally less than an hour ago, when he and
- 6:07Speaker 3: I were talking about Josh Hart's impact. And yeah, I mean,
- 6:11Speaker 3: I think that's just what he does. He's a disruptor
- 6:14Speaker 3: on defense, he's an energy player, he's a hustle player.
- 6:18Speaker 3: If he gives you baskets. To me, that's a bonus.
- 6:20Speaker 3: That's just gravy, and I know he had that monster
- 6:22Speaker 3: game against Cleveland, but to me, what you saw yesterday
- 6:26Speaker 3: is really the epitome of what Josh Hart brings to
- 6:28Speaker 3: the table.
- 6:31Speaker 1: This series obviously got another one in San Antonio, but
- 6:34Speaker 1: if the ticket prices are any indication what this thing
- 6:38Speaker 1: is going to be when it heads back to.
- 6:39Speaker 2: The Garden, it will be for the ages.
- 6:43Speaker 1: What do you anticipate when this series gets back to
- 6:46Speaker 1: New York.
- 6:49Speaker 3: It's a great question. I'm expecting everything and anything like,
- 6:52Speaker 3: I don't know what to expect. I guess expect the unexpected.
- 6:55Speaker 3: When we get to New York, the energy will be
- 6:57Speaker 3: off the charts. You know, I've been a lot of
- 7:00Speaker 3: NBA arenas in my career, and I don't think we'll
- 7:05Speaker 3: ever be able to anticipate what we're going to get
- 7:07Speaker 3: for that Game three at the Garden with this next
- 7:11Speaker 3: team in the finals as likable the next team as
- 7:14Speaker 3: they've maybe ever had to be honest with the at
- 7:16Speaker 3: least in my lifetime. I wasn't around when Willis Reid
- 7:18Speaker 3: and those guys won the championship, and certainly those Patrick
- 7:22Speaker 3: Ewing teams were fun to watch in a lot of ways,
- 7:25Speaker 3: But I don't know if they had the type of
- 7:27Speaker 3: endearing characters that this particular group has, at least to
- 7:33Speaker 3: the general public. I would say certainly to New Yorkers,
- 7:35Speaker 3: but I think just overall just a very likable team,
- 7:39Speaker 3: which is not something you normally correlate with the Knicks.
- 7:43Speaker 1: George Sodano's our guest here on the Sean O'Connell show
- 7:45Speaker 1: for a couple more minutes. He's on the coverage for
- 7:47Speaker 1: these NBA Finals. Game one went to New York. In
- 7:51Speaker 1: San Antonio, the Spurs will try to even it up
- 7:54Speaker 1: before they head back to New York. Where As I
- 7:56Speaker 1: just mentioned, ticket prices are absolutely insane and it is
- 8:00Speaker 1: going to be quite the spectacle, and at the risk
- 8:04Speaker 1: of leaning into a tired trope, this is it's This
- 8:08Speaker 1: series feels like a win win for the NBA because
- 8:11Speaker 1: either your biggest rising star gets his first NBA championship
- 8:17Speaker 1: or the New York Knicks win an NBA championship and
- 8:19Speaker 1: the largest media market and this legendary team, this franchise
- 8:23Speaker 1: that hasn't had that kind of success in a long time,
- 8:26Speaker 1: climbs back to the top of the mountain.
- 8:29Speaker 2: But if if the League Office had its drugs.
- 8:32Speaker 1: If there was one one thing that serves the NBA better,
- 8:37Speaker 1: is it Wemby starting his run of maybe generational greatness
- 8:40Speaker 1: now with a championship, Or is it this New York
- 8:44Speaker 1: Knicks team capping off one of the great stories in
- 8:46Speaker 1: the NBA.
- 8:48Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I mean that's tough question. But what I
- 8:52Speaker 3: would say is, I don't think this Nick team is
- 8:55Speaker 3: a generational team. Where I think when Minyama is a
- 8:57Speaker 3: generational player, and I think the Spurs are set up
- 8:59Speaker 3: for success for a really long time with Stefan Castle
- 9:02Speaker 3: and Dylan Harper as part of a big three with
- 9:04Speaker 3: one Minama, and I think they will get their championship
- 9:08Speaker 3: or championships. So I think the better story for twenty
- 9:12Speaker 3: twenty six would be the next ending their fifty three
- 9:15Speaker 3: year drought and having that one championship that they can
- 9:20Speaker 3: celebrate and having New York just go bonkers. So yeah,
- 9:25Speaker 3: I think it would be that. If you're making me
- 9:26Speaker 3: kind of like split hairs here, it would probably be that.
- 9:30Speaker 3: But I think any of the two results to your
- 9:32Speaker 3: point earlier, would be fantastic for the league.
- 9:36Speaker 1: I want to get away from the finals here for
- 9:37Speaker 1: a second, because We've got a very exciting NBA draft
- 9:41Speaker 1: coming up four fans here in Salt Lake City, the
- 9:44Speaker 1: Jazz drafting number two. Obviously, Aj Debonsa and Darren Peterson
- 9:49Speaker 1: are considered the top two talents here, and we've had
- 9:52Speaker 1: these conversations back and forth, like, well, do you have
- 9:54Speaker 1: to care about which guy will want to stay longer
- 9:57Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City because AJ's got these obvious links
- 10:00Speaker 1: to the to the state, into the franchise, and Darren
- 10:03Speaker 1: Peterson does it Necessarily You're all over the league, right,
- 10:06Speaker 1: you get to go to every NBA arena and you
- 10:09Speaker 1: get to talk to these players on a level that
- 10:12Speaker 1: we never get to. And so maybe you could tell
- 10:16Speaker 1: me we're getting these surveys that come out that Utah's
- 10:19Speaker 1: they're not the bottom of the league when it comes
- 10:21Speaker 1: to player perception.
- 10:22Speaker 2: And where would you least like to play. That's Memphis
- 10:25Speaker 2: for now.
- 10:26Speaker 1: But do you get a sense that Salt Lake City,
- 10:29Speaker 1: that the Utah Jazz are maybe becoming, if not more desirable,
- 10:34Speaker 1: at least less of a pariah in the NBA. Yeah?
- 10:39Speaker 3: Look, I like Ryan, I think people like Ryan. I
- 10:41Speaker 3: think that it starts there, right, you know, I think
- 10:45Speaker 3: that with age and that group they're building something. I
- 10:48Speaker 3: think that you know that helps, right. I think when
- 10:52Speaker 3: you're losing, that makes things even worse, you know what
- 10:54Speaker 3: I mean. And they have, you know, chosen to take
- 10:58Speaker 3: a certain path for a while now. But you know
- 11:01Speaker 3: that fan base in that building is as good as
- 11:03Speaker 3: any in the league.
- 11:05Speaker 2: When the team is good.
- 11:07Speaker 3: I don't think there's any question. I would say that
- 11:08Speaker 3: they're very supportive even when the team is not very good.
- 11:11Speaker 3: But when when the team is rocket, I mean, that
- 11:14Speaker 3: place is insane and it's tough for opposing players, So
- 11:18Speaker 3: for the home team, it's fantastic. But yeah, look, I
- 11:22Speaker 3: think that I think Utah being good again would be
- 11:25Speaker 3: good for the West because there's plenty of history there.
- 11:29Speaker 3: I think that, you know, there's already natural rivalries that
- 11:32Speaker 3: can take place, and you know, again, I just think
- 11:35Speaker 3: that they will be back on tracks. They got a
- 11:37Speaker 3: good owner, they got a good front office, and I
- 11:39Speaker 3: don't think you can go wrong with either guy. Obviously,
- 11:42Speaker 3: Debonta makes a ton of sense for obvious reasons. And
- 11:45Speaker 3: I understand the I said hesitation with Peterson too, but
- 11:51Speaker 3: he is as good a player as anyone in this draft,
- 11:55Speaker 3: and as far as the score, he might be the
- 11:56Speaker 3: best guy. So it really just depends on what it
- 11:59Speaker 3: is you know, you guys need and how the draft
- 12:03Speaker 3: ends up falling to you. I think either guy is
- 12:05Speaker 3: going to put you guys in a really good spot.
- 12:06Speaker 3: And I think that now that the team is focused
- 12:09Speaker 3: on winning again, I think that everything will start to
- 12:12Speaker 3: kind of work itself out, and that includes players wanting
- 12:15Speaker 3: to play there.
- 12:16Speaker 1: And I guess this circles back to the finals. But
- 12:19Speaker 1: you know, the Jazz, it's fun rounding into a time
- 12:23Speaker 1: where tanking is going to be punished. When you don't
- 12:25Speaker 1: have to tank, that's good for the Utah Jazz. And
- 12:28Speaker 1: we think that they'll actually get out there and they'll
- 12:31Speaker 1: compete and maybe be like a playoff team sooner than later.
- 12:34Speaker 1: And then you look at the West and you look
- 12:37Speaker 1: at San Antonio already being in the finals in Victor
- 12:41Speaker 1: wiman Yama's third year, and you look at an Oklahoma
- 12:44Speaker 1: City team that maybe have some salary things to work out,
- 12:47Speaker 1: but they're a young team with you know, a championship
- 12:50Speaker 1: under their belt and a bunch of star potential, and
- 12:53Speaker 1: you look at it and say, well, you can't just
- 12:56Speaker 1: get good if you're the Utah Jazz. You have to
- 12:58Speaker 1: get really dang and you probably have to do so
- 13:01Speaker 1: fast because you're gonna have to be competing with this
- 13:04Speaker 1: San Antonio team, with this version of Oklahoma City at
- 13:08Speaker 1: least for a couple more years. Who knows what Denver's
- 13:11Speaker 1: going to be in the near future. Who knows who
- 13:13Speaker 1: else is on the come up. So as the Jazz
- 13:16Speaker 1: try to close that gap, I mean, how big is it?
- 13:21Speaker 3: Oh, it's pretty big. But it starts with you guys
- 13:23Speaker 3: putting together a team. And again it goes back to
- 13:26Speaker 3: the group that you have there understanding what it takes
- 13:29Speaker 3: to win. Right. It's not going to be an easy
- 13:31Speaker 3: task by any stretch of the imagination because I think
- 13:33Speaker 3: that not only San Antonio, but to your point, Oklahoma
- 13:36Speaker 3: City to me, is not going anywhere anytime soon. I
- 13:39Speaker 3: actually think Oklahoma City, you know, if you I agree
- 13:43Speaker 3: with what Jalen Williams said post that series, right, if
- 13:46Speaker 3: he's healthy, they win and they probably end up winning
- 13:49Speaker 3: the title again in my opinion, because they're the deepest
- 13:51Speaker 3: team in the sport. So yeah, there's a gap, there's
- 13:56Speaker 3: no question about that. But the interesting part about this
- 14:01Speaker 3: league in the way it's currently structured is that the
- 14:03Speaker 3: financial ramification is not to bore your audience too much.
- 14:06Speaker 3: Of the salary structure and the salary cap structure is
- 14:09Speaker 3: so punitive. It's just hard to keep teams together for
- 14:12Speaker 3: too long. Like you've got windows of three to five
- 14:14Speaker 3: years max in most cases. So I think because of that,
- 14:18Speaker 3: there will be opportunities for other teams here, you know,
- 14:21Speaker 3: within a certain amount of time.
- 14:25Speaker 2: George, I know.
- 14:25Speaker 1: You're up against it and we appreciate you giving us
- 14:28Speaker 1: some time today. I know it's a busy time with
- 14:30Speaker 1: the Finals happening right now, so thank you. We'll have
- 14:33Speaker 1: you on again soon.
- 14:35Speaker 2: You got it.
- 14:35Speaker 1: Thanks for having me George Sadano on the Finals coverage
- 14:40Speaker 1: for ESPN. He hosts his own radio show in Los Angeles.
- 14:43Speaker 1: He is a Southern California lifer and you'll see him
- 14:49Speaker 1: and hear him sometimes on college football coming up this fall.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Great stuff from George Saddano.