Latest / Privycast / Ep. 129 Hammams and Eastern Bathing Rituals
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- 0:01>> Hunter Hoover: In the use in the area of ritual purification,
- 0:04it's just not. It's just not as practical. And
- 0:07you don't have to expose your
- 0:10digit to get ritually pure. You can get
- 0:12ritually pure at home and then go do your
- 0:15worship and then go back.
- 0:22Welcome back to privy. Privy is a
- 0:25podcast about bathrooms
- 0:27recorded from my home
- 0:30bathroom. I'm your host, Hunter Hoover,
- 0:33and I love bathrooms. Welcome. Uh, back, everyone.
- 0:36Um, if you didn't notice, and, uh, I should
- 0:39just let you know, there's this thing that's
- 0:42happening in podcasts, and that
- 0:44is, for some reason, they
- 0:47took this thing that is primarily a
- 0:50video medium or an audio medium, and
- 0:53they decided that it would be really cool and it would
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- 1:02for folks like me, whose ugly
- 1:05mug is trying to kind of stay off
- 1:09the Internet more often than not, um, now
- 1:11you have. Now you. If you want, you can
- 1:14stare at me in my
- 1:17scraggy situation, um, as I sit here
- 1:20in my home bathroom. Here's. Here's the
- 1:23toilet paper. Like, here we are. We're
- 1:26here. Um, and this is it. This is where I record.
- 1:29I've recorded probably 90% of my episodes
- 1:32right here. That. There she is.
- 1:35Old blue right back there. So
- 1:38this is venture into video. Uh, and
- 1:41I don't know, this is probably a bad idea. Uh,
- 1:44and if it's a bad idea,
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- 2:10But if you want to see me rant in the ravings of a
- 2:13madman into this microphone, and
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- 2:25Um, you can say, hey, your beard is. It
- 2:28needs trimmed. Yes. It's not happening. 2024 is the
- 2:31year of no trim. What? Little weather update for
- 2:34you. It's wet. Uh, or at least it was. It
- 2:36was wet, and it was wet much into the month of
- 2:39April. April showers bring allergy
- 2:42flowers. Um, and the allergies
- 2:45are flying. Uh, you hear it in my
- 2:47voice. I've got the seasonal rasp
- 2:50going on that's partially, um,
- 2:53from. Oh, you guys get to see all the
- 2:56nasty creaks and.
- 2:58Yep. Um, all the
- 3:01burps and all the weird things that I edit out.
- 3:04If you're listening to audio, it's right here on the. On the video,
- 3:07and I do not have editing
- 3:10time to do that. So here, video
- 3:13folks. Welcome. You're getting total uncut.
- 3:16Maybe I'll cut stuff if it's really randy. But,
- 3:19yeah, allergies are
- 3:21flying. Um, at the. At
- 3:24the point of this episode's release, spring
- 3:27break was a whole month ago. I know that's hard to
- 3:29believe. I'm two fire pits deep
- 3:32for the year, so that's cool. Uh,
- 3:35and at the point of this record, which when,
- 3:38again, like, almost three weeks to a month
- 3:41ago, um, I have been
- 3:43eating some leftover pulled pork Mac that
- 3:46my wife and sister in law made when my sister in
- 3:49law was visiting us during spring break. And I'm here to tell
- 3:52you it's delicious.
- 3:55But there is almost a venn
- 3:58diagram, complete circle.
- 4:01Over days, I eat
- 4:04x number of days slash weeks old
- 4:07pulled pork and Mac and cheese, and
- 4:10days that my bathrooming situation gets
- 4:12wild and crazy. So, um,
- 4:16it's very good. It is now all gone at the point of this
- 4:19episode's recording and release. Um,
- 4:22but there is. Yeah, I was
- 4:25snoshing on that, and my coworkers at the high school,
- 4:28they have to bear with me because
- 4:31the way it was frozen was just in ziploc bags. And
- 4:34so I'll pull out this Ziploc bag, and
- 4:37it will truly be, like,
- 4:40me emptying, like, just squeezing
- 4:43this Ziploc bag into my
- 4:46little bowl to put into the microwave. And
- 4:49just in the middle of the classroom, just squeezing out
- 4:52a big, just brown and
- 4:54yellow pulled pork and Mac
- 4:57log from this frozen ziploc bag. It's
- 5:00truly delightful. And, um, I regret nothing.
- 5:04And I ate it all. It has been eaten in its entirety.
- 5:07Now I'm on to our very, very dated
- 5:10out, uh, frozen, uh, pizza, and then I will move
- 5:13on to tackle our olive garden buildups.
- 5:17Uh, I'm a creature of the frozen leftovers.
- 5:19That's. There's the
- 5:22allergy nose. That's what you need to know.
- 5:27I also heard this theory the other day, and I want to,
- 5:30you know, you shout out at me if think there's anything to this,
- 5:33but the theory posits that the warmer the
- 5:35fart, the more stinky the fart is gonna
- 5:38be. Now, it's a thought.
- 5:42Um, but it really made me wonder, like,
- 5:45why? Why would a
- 5:48warmer fart be a stinkier fart?
- 5:50And from what I can tell, the hotter the
- 5:53fart, the less gas you
- 5:56have. It is as if, like, when you have
- 5:58a lot of volume of gas, you're pushing out
- 6:01a lot of air really quickly. Um, and so
- 6:04more gas means faster,
- 6:07but where if you have less gas, it's not moving as
- 6:10quick, and so it's actually warmer. They
- 6:13also say that if you're wearing tight pants, it's going to get trapped. So,
- 6:16like, if you get the short pants will give you the hot farts.
- 6:19That's. That's what you need to know. Um,
- 6:22but we're not here to talk about allergy
- 6:25noses. And we're not here to talk about three week old pulled
- 6:28pork and Mac. And we're not here to talk about hot pants
- 6:31and your short farts. Either
- 6:33way, um, we're here to talk about
- 6:36an environment where stanky
- 6:39farts are gonna be a huge
- 6:42party foul.
- 6:50I should tell you, this episode
- 6:53has lived in my, uh,
- 6:56notes as the prompt
- 6:59titled Eastern Bathing
- 7:01rituals for some time. And when you
- 7:04look that up, there is primarily one type
- 7:07and one thing that consistently
- 7:10pops up when you google eastern bathing
- 7:12rituals. And we're going to discuss that
- 7:15one thing this week on privy.
- 7:18We're talking about hamams.
- 7:22Whose mom. No. Uh-huh. Hamams are
- 7:25also known as turkish
- 7:27baths, and they are a type of steam
- 7:30bath associated with the islamic
- 7:32world.
- 7:35Oh, yeah, really cranking
- 7:38that one on the attuned
- 7:41audio listener. For those who are joining us
- 7:43via video. Hi, um, I normally
- 7:46edit the slurping out. You don't get
- 7:49that audio, I'll get rid of
- 7:52it for you. But
- 7:55hammams are normally, uh,
- 7:57associated with the islamic world.
- 8:00And while these turkish baths
- 8:03have been adapted from the islamic faith
- 8:07for use outside that
- 8:09culture, their origin was tied
- 8:12specifically to islamic purification
- 8:15rituals. These rituals,
- 8:18mandated and called for in their
- 8:21faith, are commonly done to prepare
- 8:23oneself for prayer.
- 8:27In some traditions of Islam,
- 8:30it is done to prepare for the
- 8:33reading, or at the strictest, the
- 8:35holding of a Quran. So you'll have to do this in order to
- 8:38get ready to, like, hold or read the Quran in their
- 8:41faith. For those who don't know,
- 8:44um, I'm a youth pastor, and when
- 8:47you hear the idea that you have
- 8:50to ritually prepare yourself to read, let
- 8:53alone hold your scripture, it gives
- 8:56me pause. Not because I don't have
- 8:59regard for the Bible, um, but
- 9:02I already spend enough
- 9:04time encouraging people, and including young
- 9:07people, just to read the Bible. The fact
- 9:10that they'd have to shower first is somewhat challenging. They should
- 9:13be showering anyway. Um, christians
- 9:16shower yourselves. Uh, but. Oh, well, we're not here we
- 9:19are. But the ritual cleansing spas
- 9:22have their ties originally
- 9:25to none other than the roman empire. Guys,
- 9:28we made it. There's your roman empire.
- 9:31Brain wipe for the day.
- 9:35We've talked before about, uh, ancient
- 9:38roman public baths and
- 9:41bathrooms, uh, but they also had public baths.
- 9:44These were often called thermaze,
- 9:47named for the warm water and the steaming
- 9:49effect that they would produce.
- 9:54These baths were filled by nearby water
- 9:57supplies such as rivers or through
- 10:00the newly targeted technology of aqueducts.
- 10:02I'm going to be honest, for the life of me,
- 10:05I cannot figure out how aqueducts work. I've read it,
- 10:08I've looked at the pictures, I've watched a video.
- 10:12I cannot figure it out. I don't understand
- 10:15it. Um, this water
- 10:18is then heated with fire and channeled
- 10:21into the bathing room called
- 10:24the caldarium. The term thermae is
- 10:27originally used for hot springs, but then begins
- 10:30to be used to refer to these man
- 10:33made baths. These were often
- 10:36used and reused for the coming 500
- 10:39years, but it was in the 500
- 10:41600s where things took a turn.
- 10:45In ad 570, Muhammad
- 10:48was born m to human
- 10:50parents in Mecca
- 10:53one day. It is believed that Muhammad
- 10:56received at the age of 40 a message from the angel
- 10:59Gabriel and three years later went out
- 11:02as Allah's prophet, preaching, God is
- 11:05one and they ought to submit to Islam.
- 11:07And one aspect of his time as prophet was the
- 11:10conquest of much of the arab Middle east
- 11:13and parts of Europe and Asia.
- 11:16These were carried out by Muhammad's
- 11:19successors. These conquests were also carried out by
- 11:21Muhammad's successors.
- 11:24As they expanded in this way, often
- 11:27through outright bloodshed in the name of
- 11:29Allah, they destroyed and
- 11:32updated many aspects of the cultures
- 11:35they overthrew. One of these
- 11:37areas was that of the roman and
- 11:40byzantine locations where they had
- 11:42these roman bathhouses. And as
- 11:45families and as muslim communities begin
- 11:48to get set up in these areas,
- 11:53they begin to update
- 11:56and repurpose existing
- 11:59infrastructure to meet their
- 12:01ritualistic bathing needs.
- 12:05As was noted, the muslim people must perform
- 12:08ablutions, that is, their ritual
- 12:10bathing and cleansing before prayer.
- 12:14This often requires a full
- 12:17bath. These bathhouses then
- 12:19are, uh, repurposed to fit the
- 12:22methods, using more water and steam to
- 12:25allow for ritual purification.
- 12:28Now there is some
- 12:31disagreement about whether they really
- 12:34use this for the purpose of
- 12:36cleansing. Some argue that the public
- 12:39nature of the bathhouse would not allow
- 12:42someone to get as ritually
- 12:44pure as, as I like to say it
- 12:47up in there. To really get
- 12:50oneself ritually clean. Now, I
- 12:53don't know how, I don't know how. Lost in the sauce.
- 12:56You gotta get to be considered
- 12:59rich, clean enough to worship.
- 13:03We, um, differ fundamentally on
- 13:06our belief on that to go in peace.
- 13:09Um, but it
- 13:12cannot be denied that as
- 13:14Islam spread outside of these
- 13:17territories, they began to build their
- 13:20own public bathhouses.
- 13:24New construction of these structures in the
- 13:27newly conquered muslim world first began
- 13:30in the regions of Syria and Jordan
- 13:33in the late six and seven hundredths.
- 13:36These were usually part of
- 13:38like, desert castles built for
- 13:41princes and other ruling, uh,
- 13:43parties. And once the
- 13:46trend caught on,
- 13:49they begin to build
- 13:52more and more of these islamic
- 13:54bathhouses, or
- 13:57hammams, all across the muslim
- 13:59conquered world. The
- 14:02biggest change that, that they made to.
- 14:05So they took the existing roman bathhouse, the
- 14:08public one, where everybody goes in and they got. They
- 14:11fiddly bit flinging around because it's like both public
- 14:14and you're bathing. I
- 14:17don't know. I don't get the draw to baths
- 14:20as it is. I've spoken at length about how I think
- 14:23baths are ridiculous. Um, I don't get
- 14:26the draw, but also to
- 14:29have my digit flapping around where people.
- 14:32I just. That seems. I don't
- 14:34get it. Like, sort yourself
- 14:37out. Uh, but anyway, whatever,
- 14:41I digress. Um,
- 14:43but the trend caught on and they begin to build these, but
- 14:46as they do, they start to repurpose
- 14:49and they begin to make
- 14:52adjustments to the. The already existing
- 14:55roman bathhouses. Um,
- 14:57one of the key
- 15:01things that happens, and this is colonization, by the way. We don't like
- 15:04to use that word because, oh, ah, only white people.
- 15:07But like, whatever, just, it's,
- 15:10that's what this is. They take the old and are
- 15:13repurposing and rethrowing away the stuff that they don't
- 15:16want and keeping the things they do and retconning it to fit the
- 15:18culture. It's what every culture does
- 15:21when they are in control in an area.
- 15:24It happens. Is it always good?
- 15:27No. Does it happen? And is it sometimes
- 15:30necessary? Yeah, it, like,
- 15:33anytime you have the mixing of cultures, something is going to have to
- 15:36give. Here we are. But the biggest changes
- 15:39underwent was the doing away with the cold. Room
- 15:42for the roman baths. The roman
- 15:44bathhouses had a room with cold
- 15:47water. Think like a big swimming pool. That's like, that's
- 15:50the closest thing I can think of. It's like a swimming pool. Swimming, uh,
- 15:53pools are cold. They're really not that cold. What people don't
- 15:56get is that swimming pools are not
- 15:58cold. They're just not
- 16:01warm. And the air is hot when you
- 16:04use them. So, like, swimming pools, they're, they're usually
- 16:07like, I want to say, like 70 something degrees,
- 16:10maybe. And that's not terribly,
- 16:13uh, warm. It's probably warmer than that, but it
- 16:16feels very cool because of how warm
- 16:19it is outside. And when we are in
- 16:22water, it's easy to get cold
- 16:24anyway. But they did away with these cold
- 16:27baths. Uh,
- 16:29and I don't know if you know about, like, the ice
- 16:32bath bros. There's these guys, and I guess there's women,
- 16:35too, but I think it's one of those, like, I gotta
- 16:38prove something type things. And I'm sure there's health
- 16:41benefits, but, like, whatever. Maybe one day
- 16:44we'll do an episode on Ice baths and I'll locate
- 16:47myself. Right around the corner, right over there, is our bath. And maybe
- 16:50I'll, maybe I'll ice bath myself and we'll get video
- 16:53and it'll just, it'll be bad. And we won't just hate the
- 16:56fact that we did it. You don't want that.
- 16:59Um, it'll be a lot of me going like that as
- 17:02I freeze myself. But there's these, like,
- 17:05ice bath bros. It's like
- 17:08hammer bros, but like, ice bath bros. Do you know what
- 17:11I'm saying? Um, but essentially they're these, like,
- 17:14gluttons for punishment who get, like,
- 17:17a feeding trough, and then they
- 17:20fill it with ice. They go down to, like, the 711
- 17:23and they're like, hey, I need, like, 40 bags of
- 17:26ice. Dang, you must be having a party. No,
- 17:29I just need to fill an ice trough because I'm trying
- 17:32to see how much I can just shrank
- 17:35everything, really frozone
- 17:38my business.
- 17:41But they get a feeding trough and they fill it with ice, and then they fill it
- 17:44with water, and then they sit in it and
- 17:47they're like, you know, they're
- 17:49freezing and they do this for
- 17:52health benefits. Now, I'm sure there are
- 17:55health benefits to doing this, m
- 17:59but here's the deal. Hot showers
- 18:02are really good. Like, really
- 18:05good. I don't know.
- 18:08Hot showers are just really good. And,
- 18:11um, the Muslims killed
- 18:14the cold baths in these bathhouses, but they
- 18:17added and maintained the hot
- 18:19rims.
- 18:22Second, they used
- 18:25running water in some type for better
- 18:27purification. While the baths
- 18:30existed, the, they served
- 18:33less for the purpose of purity and more for
- 18:36health benefits. So pretty much what this did is,
- 18:39like, if you sit in your own filth,
- 18:43you have to get clean before you do. So
- 18:45otherwise you're not ritually pure, and so
- 18:49they had to get clean, but then they could sit in the bath for the health
- 18:52benefits of the bath.
- 18:55It should also be noted that for three
- 18:58centuries, women were not usually
- 19:00visiting these, but eventually many of
- 19:03them have updated to have separate hours
- 19:06for men and women. And that
- 19:09was pretty commonplace by, like, the 10th century. You
- 19:12find that pretty established by the 10th
- 19:15century.
- 19:21As such,
- 19:25in the muslim world, they have often been
- 19:28criticized for their treatment and view of
- 19:30women seemingly as lesser. And I'm not muslim,
- 19:34but it is a perception, um, by many.
- 19:38These bathhouses and the
- 19:41times women could spend there away from their
- 19:43husbands, ah, probably away from children,
- 19:47um, were some of the only social
- 19:49time they had with other women
- 19:52in their community. If you've ever
- 19:55been to, like, a western spa, kind of.
- 19:58Even when spas and
- 20:01saunas are depicted in pop culture,
- 20:05it is depicted as if the gossip is
- 20:08running amok. And you can see where this
- 20:10idea derives from. In the islamic
- 20:13use of hammams,
- 20:17there was often a small fee or a tax to
- 20:20be paid to use these facilities,
- 20:23paying to be ritually pure. That's interesting to
- 20:26me. But its money was then used for the upkeep
- 20:29of other islamic structures
- 20:34after the year 1000, further
- 20:37conquering and mixing of groups, and had a
- 20:39huge impact on the cultures of
- 20:42both the muslim people, but as well as the
- 20:45people they were interacting with and conquering and
- 20:47intermixing with,
- 20:50some which emerged were eastern, roman, islamic,
- 20:53Persian, and the Turks. And they all had a further influence
- 20:56on each other. The Ottomans, the
- 20:59Ottoman Turks, also became patrons of
- 21:02and users of the hammams that
- 21:05began to be popping up in the region.
- 21:08The Ottoman Turks, however, often focused more
- 21:11on the social aspect of hammams,
- 21:14but they began to be built all across the Ottoman
- 21:17Empire. And these are where we begin to
- 21:20be called the turkish baths.
- 21:23As time went on, turkish baths, or
- 21:26hammams, began to be more intricate and
- 21:29larger. Hammams continued to be
- 21:31used as a key part in muslim
- 21:34culture, a center part
- 21:37of social life, and in many
- 21:39instances, the islamic ritual purification
- 21:42and healing described in
- 21:45the islamic faith.
- 21:47However, there was a marked decline
- 21:50in the use of and the building of
- 21:53these structures in the beginning of the 19
- 21:56hundreds when we introduced indoor
- 21:59money.
- 22:03As the use of hamams declined, their use has
- 22:07shifted to being repurposed for other
- 22:09buildings, turned into pools, used for museum.
- 22:12It's kind of ironic, like,
- 22:15I make this joke, and I think I've made this joke on
- 22:18the show before, but spirit, Halloween,
- 22:22it always, like, it truly
- 22:25is a spirit. And what I mean by that is,
- 22:27if you have a
- 22:30nondescript building in your town
- 22:33and you don't really know what that building
- 22:35houses, it's very likely that
- 22:38one day that building will house a spirit
- 22:41Halloween. Spirit Halloween
- 22:44sets up shop in the husk of
- 22:47nowhere is safe.
- 22:50And that's kind of like what is happening with these hamams.
- 22:53Like, they. They took and they
- 22:56built these things, and they modeled them after these
- 22:59bathhouses in many ways, but now
- 23:02they have become pools and other
- 23:04community spots. It's ironic.
- 23:09Many of these serve as tourist spots,
- 23:13especially those that are still in operation. Some of them are still
- 23:16used as hamams, and they're like, to draw people in
- 23:18to use the facilities. Some of these
- 23:21are used in the Middle east for ritualistic
- 23:24cleansing. As is noted with the advent
- 23:27of modern indoor plumbing, there are
- 23:30more private ways to clean yourself. It's
- 23:32fallen off in the use in the area
- 23:35of ritual purification. It's just not. It's
- 23:38just not as practical. And you don't have
- 23:42to expose your digit to get
- 23:44ritually pure. You can get ritually pure at home and then
- 23:47go do your worship and then go back.
- 23:52It has also been argued
- 23:56by some adherents to Islam that women
- 23:59who use the hammams are engaging
- 24:02in promiscuous behavior, even though
- 24:05they attend the hammam with other women. The
- 24:08fact of uncovering more than their face and eyes at
- 24:10times and in public, because, remember, these are
- 24:13public bathhouses, is viewed as
- 24:16taboo amongst some islamic
- 24:19groups.
- 24:21As such, public bathing in a
- 24:24public bathing house for women
- 24:27is viewed with much scrutiny by
- 24:30some. In other situations, it
- 24:33has been insinuated that women who
- 24:36visit the hammam too often
- 24:38or more frequently do so as
- 24:41they are in need of ritual cleansing after
- 24:44sexual activity. Yo. In
- 24:47other words, the more trip to the. The
- 24:50public bathhouse and bathing sauna,
- 24:53the more action you might be getting.
- 24:56It's a theory.
- 24:59How embarrassing. Uh, or not. I don't know.
- 25:02It maybe. I think I have something broken with me.
- 25:05Um, I wouldn't want people to know that I was.
- 25:08I guess it's like you don't kiss and tell. Like, you
- 25:10don't. You don't play hide the bacon and talk
- 25:13about it. Like, you just, like,
- 25:17sort yourself out, you know? I'm saying, like, just chill
- 25:20it. Chill out. Maybe it should have taken a
- 25:23lap in the cold bath before you got in there. Oh,
- 25:26wait. They removed it. Good one.
- 25:29I'm, um. The
- 25:31more. Today, there are many
- 25:34hamams in the west and throughout the world
- 25:37that use similar practices manner
- 25:40much akin to attending a spa.
- 25:43In fact, most will take similar
- 25:46approaches, but are modeled more after the
- 25:49turkish bathhouses which spread in the
- 25:51victorian era and were similar.
- 25:54These spread due to their view
- 25:57as being, um, somewhat more
- 26:00sophisticated in nature.
- 26:03The biggest addition, though,
- 26:06is the addition of steam in vapor
- 26:08rooms. Turkish baths were believed to
- 26:11have healing benefits that spread
- 26:14widely as a public place to
- 26:17relax and heal.
- 26:20These led into the modern day
- 26:23spas of the west. I might have
- 26:26you asking, what really
- 26:29is the difference in between a
- 26:32hamam and a spa? Other than
- 26:35name like, what really is the difference? I'm glad
- 26:37you asked.
- 26:44The first main difference between a
- 26:47hamam m and a spa is it is going.
- 26:50A hamam is going to be relatively
- 26:53dry or, sorry. A spa is going
- 26:55to be relatively dry in comparison
- 26:58to a hamam. What's going. That's going
- 27:01to sound weird to hear. If you've ever been to a
- 27:04spa, it's going to be weird to hear
- 27:07because it's still very damp.
- 27:10Like, it's moist is hick.
- 27:14And here's what we got going on.
- 27:16Hamam's humidity in
- 27:19the room is usually around a
- 27:22hundred. Um, it's Florida on
- 27:25a rainy day. Everything's just wet. You know what I'm saying?
- 27:28Everybody's just wet. Everybody's just
- 27:31soaking wet. It's an
- 27:34absolute swamp in this guy.
- 27:36100% humidity. I would have
- 27:39some. I would have swamp cracks so
- 27:42hard you can, it would be like Shrek's
- 27:45backyard in my backside.
- 27:47But this high humidity allows them to
- 27:50keep the rooms a bit cooler. They're at about 45
- 27:53degrees celsius now. I must admit, I, uh,
- 27:56I don't understand the world. So I have to look up
- 28:00what 45 degrees celsius is in fahrenheit. It's
- 28:03113. Um, that's still freaking hot as
- 28:06heck. No, thanks. Uh, that's
- 28:09hot. Likewise, the amount of water and the high
- 28:11humidity help focus on the cleansing
- 28:14aspects in the hamam process that are
- 28:16important to its past. Saunas
- 28:19are usually sitting more at the 70 to 90
- 28:22degrees celsius. That's almost twice the temperature.
- 28:25Yo, that's like 200 degree room.
- 28:27Forget about it.
- 28:30About ten to 20% humidity. It's
- 28:33intended to make you sweat out your
- 28:35pores.
- 28:40So while saunas might not be
- 28:43dry on a basic definition of the
- 28:46word of being dry, they
- 28:49are dry. It's comparably dry. When you start looking
- 28:52at humidity in comparison to hamams,
- 28:56the second biggest difference is the length of stay.
- 28:59Saunas operate more on a schedule where you
- 29:02make an appointment, you come in for your session, and you really can
- 29:05only handle, you know, 1520 minutes of the
- 29:08215
- 29:10degree flip and heat room.
- 29:13Bad news. I have no desire to be a part of
- 29:16that. Um, but hamams,
- 29:19at least in how they're designed, are made for you to come
- 29:22in, take your time, spend as long as you want,
- 29:25talk, hang out, socialize,
- 29:27relax, feel rejuvenated, as
- 29:30long as you do it within business hours.
- 29:32Um, and the final key,
- 29:36think of the hamam, um, like a gym. Like a 24
- 29:39hours gym that you pay access to. Ten minutes or 5
- 29:41hours you're paying to get in there and access that.
- 29:44It's more about the process.
- 29:48The final key difference is the aesthetic.
- 29:51Spas usually differ in appearance, but
- 29:54are, uh, often found to have that comfy, kind of
- 29:57outdoorsy, cabin like,
- 30:00shiplap thing going on. White
- 30:03women love ship lap.
- 30:06I didn't even know what Shiplap was
- 30:08until I was told that it was neat.
- 30:11Just, I feel like there was a
- 30:14moment where everything was in shiplap. Like, when you went
- 30:17into hobby lobby, everything was like, fake
- 30:20shiplap and, like, cutesy flowers. I
- 30:23don't know. Maybe it's just me.
- 30:26Hamams, however, have a more palace y
- 30:28vibe. It's like a palace.
- 30:32And I have to admit, I thought
- 30:35about going to a hammam in preparation for this
- 30:38episode. But the problem is, the
- 30:41closest one is in our beloved
- 30:44Portland, Oregon. The
- 30:47sheer annoyance of having to go to
- 30:49Portland offsets any
- 30:52perceived relaxation of
- 30:55the process of going to a hamam.
- 31:00Also, I don't like being nude
- 31:03or half nude. And this is the other
- 31:06thing about a hamam, is sometimes somebody
- 31:08helps, quote, scrub you down. I don't want
- 31:11anyone exfoliating me. Uh,
- 31:14go exfoliate yourself.
- 31:17I don't exfoliate.
- 31:20Um, no,
- 31:24just let the man. If
- 31:27two men are in a room and one
- 31:30is naked or both are naked, there's no
- 31:32exfoliating. That should be happening. 0%
- 31:35should be happening. No, thanks.
- 31:38But you can consider this a brief
- 31:41stop off at. At, uh,
- 31:43the history of hamams and the history of
- 31:47eastern bathing rituals. And that
- 31:49brings us to the end of another episode
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