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- 0:00One of the big challenges when we try to find out information below
- 0:04sea level is to be able to see everything. It's really difficult to
- 0:08map areas that are important benthic areas like
- 0:11bottom areas like the seabed to find out which habitat is
- 0:14best to protect endangered species or to
- 0:17house really diverse areas. It's really difficult to find those
- 0:21out and a lot of times it's expensive to pay for remotely
- 0:24operated vehicles or deep sea submarines to be able to go
- 0:27out or even scuba divers to be able to go out and map the areas. Sometimes
- 0:31you're limited by area, you're limited by people
- 0:35power. It's very difficult. But here's an idea.
- 0:39What if you use animals to map those areas? That's what
- 0:42we're gonna talk about on today's episode because a new study has revealed sea
- 0:46lions have been used to map benthic habitats in Australian
- 0:49waters. We're gonna talk about that on today's episode of the How to Protect the
- 0:53Ocean podcast. Let's start the show. Hey
- 0:59everybody, welcome back to another exciting episode of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 1:03I'm your host, Andrew Lewin, and this is the podcast where you find out what's happening with
- 1:06the ocean, how you can speak up for the ocean, what you can do to live for a better ocean
- 1:10by taking action. And on today's episode, we're gonna be talking about
- 1:14something that I have always been interested in, and that's mapping the
- 1:17ocean. Finding out as much information about the ocean so you can do more analysis
- 1:21and be able to protect the ocean better. It's how to protect the ocean. I
- 1:24wonder where we got that idea from. Anyway, just to give you
- 1:27a little background, growing up as a marine biologist after
- 1:31my undergrad and doing my master's, when I did my master's, I was introduced
- 1:34to a technology called geographic information systems. It's
- 1:38also known as GIS. If you don't know what that is, it's essentially
- 1:41a way to house information in a database with
- 1:46a GPS, basically a location. And so a lot of
- 1:49times when you're in the field and you're trying to map things, you're trying
- 1:52to find out things like, where are the coral reefs? Where are
- 1:56the seagrass habitats? Where are the mangroves? How far do they reach? How
- 1:59far do they go? How deep do they go? And where can
- 2:03we find animals that are associated with that? And can we map and predict
- 2:06where these habitats will be based on specific
- 2:10environmental conditions and sort of topography, like
- 2:13geography and geology and all that wonderful stuff? And so I
- 2:17learned that in my master's. In fact, normally when you do a research master's,
- 2:20I remember you do two to maybe three years
- 2:24at a school where you just do some field work, you run some
- 2:28analyses, you learn some new techniques, you get to interact
- 2:31and network with a number of different professors, people
- 2:35on your committee, you have to do testing, then you have to defend, and
- 2:38it's a big whole ordeal. Mine was a little bit different. I didn't do my full
- 2:42two to three years At my university, at Acadia University, at
- 2:45my graduate university, I actually did one year at the Nova
- 2:48Scotia Community College to learn about GIS. I
- 2:52was in their geomatics department and I learned about GIS and
- 2:56remote sensing. And when I learned about that, I was really interested
- 3:00in learning about how to use these technologies to
- 3:04map you know, benthic habitats, essentially the seafloor,
- 3:08you know, no matter how deep it is, how do we measure that? How do we find out
- 3:11what's there, especially when it comes to fish in
- 3:15macroinvertebrates like crab, shrimp, that was macroinvertebrates,
- 3:19really my master's thesis. That's what I looked at. And I looked at you
- 3:22know, what different assemblages were there, what different communities of
- 3:26macroinvertebrates were there along the Scotian Shelf, Nova Scotian Shelf
- 3:30and Bay of Fundy, and did they repeat, did they, did they typify an
- 3:33area? Were they all found in one specific area? There were four to five
- 3:37areas that were found over four years consistently, and
- 3:40how would that play a role in marine protected areas? But I
- 3:43digress, that was my master's thesis, if you ever want to talk to me about that, I'd
- 3:46be more than happy to go over that, that was almost actually it
- 3:50was 20 years ago this year crazy how long ago that was
- 3:53but I digress I did my year at the Nova Scotia Community College
- 3:56in their geomatics department in their geomatics school and then I did
- 4:00a year at my master's university at
- 4:04Acadia University and I was able to defend successfully that
- 4:07master's so I came out and I had a GIS background and
- 4:11I started to start you know explore what that meant
- 4:14and how I can use that for a lot of different analysis from creating maps
- 4:18to looking at spatial analyses of communities. It was a lot of
- 4:21fun. And that continued to persist as the technology got
- 4:25better. We started to get remotely operated vehicles and
- 4:29we started to get data from that. But the problem with those remotely operated vehicles
- 4:33is they were super expensive. You know, we even had not only underwater,
- 4:36but we had above water. We had LIDAR, which was just like a
- 4:40new technology back then, which was even more expensive
- 4:43to use. But it gave you like the benthic, like the depths of
- 4:47things underwater at a certain depth. It
- 4:50was pretty shallow, but you got to see the shoreline quite a bit. You
- 4:54got to be able to make predictions of what those areas would be based
- 4:58on depth, based on what's found there before. But it was really cumbersome. It
- 5:01was expensive. You had to have a lot of people on the ground to
- 5:05be able to ground through certain areas. It was a difficult process.
- 5:08It wasn't easy. And the ROVs, like using them was
- 5:12a lot of fun and you'd go to school for that and you can do that. I've never
- 5:15actually operated one, but I saw them being operated. I see people
- 5:19get this type of benthic data, but they were in very small areas and it was very
- 5:22difficult to cover a large area because it was so expensive. I
- 5:25don't know how expensive they are now, but I'm sure they're still more expensive than
- 5:29we would like. So it was difficult. Even
- 5:33though you had the technology to do it, now you have drones and you have
- 5:36specific satellites that can go in
- 5:40centimeters resolution. So you may be able to tell different coral
- 5:43reefs apart. You'd be able to tell some coral reefs from
- 5:47seagrass areas, from mangroves, and all this different stuff. It's
- 5:50a heavy burden to take. You have to be very
- 5:54technical. You have to know a lot about wavelengths and different
- 5:58narrowed resolutions and all this wonderful stuff, when satellites are
- 6:01going to pass, how to get rid of cloud cover. If you can't get
- 6:05rid of cloud cover, it's a lot. It's a lot of math. It's
- 6:08a whole field in itself. But
- 6:13when you want to use it for conservation, you want to be able to use it so
- 6:16it's effective in your decision making. And so some
- 6:21researchers did a study in Australia where
- 6:25they decided to say, hey, you know what would be a really good idea?
- 6:29is if we used animals for this type of stuff. Now,
- 6:33I want to talk, just before I go into the animals, I want to just talk a
- 6:36little bit about tagging. Tagging has been a really
- 6:40important technology, having satellite tags and
- 6:45small pit tags to be able to tell the distribution of
- 6:48a population of a species. So in other words, where do they go, how
- 6:52far, how long, sometimes how deep. you
- 6:55know, what's the temperature salinity depending on what's associated with the
- 6:59tag and you're able to be able to like see where
- 7:02they go in terms of a location. Like they'd have a satellite GPS
- 7:06or they'd have a PIT tag GPS where they pass these receivers and they'd be
- 7:09able to tell where they are and when they passed and what individual and
- 7:12all that kind of stuff. And that was great. That was awesome. But
- 7:16now we have something different. We have tags, but they're called
- 7:20camera tags. And camera tags allow us, the technology
- 7:24is that good where it allows us to mount a camera on
- 7:28an animal, whether it be a shark, a whale, any
- 7:31kind of marine mammal. And you get to see where they go. In
- 7:34fact, there's been some pretty interesting discoveries. Over
- 7:38at Beneath the Waves, Dr. Austin Gallagher and his crew were
- 7:41able to find out where one of the largest, I
- 7:45guess you'd call it patches, but habitats of seagrass are
- 7:49in the Bahamas and potentially in the world. and
- 7:52they were able to discover that by putting a camera tag on a tiger shark,
- 7:56an animal that they study regularly, and being able to see where it
- 8:00goes and how it goes. You may not have seen that if
- 8:04you just looked at a GPS, if it was just a regular tag without a camera, but
- 8:07now that you see a camera, you get to see visually, you get to
- 8:10see the bottom. Right, you're not making predictions, you're not diving on,
- 8:13you can see the bottom from the perspective of the back of
- 8:17a tiger shark. Well, a group of researchers in Australia
- 8:21decided to do that, but they're going to like, hey, you know what, there's this endangered sea
- 8:24lion that we really want to protect. Let's find out where it goes. And while we're doing that,
- 8:28let's map the habitats of where it goes by putting a camera tag on it. Wow.
- 8:33If you said that to me 20 years ago, I'd be like, that's crazy, you're gonna lose the tag, if
- 8:37that even exists, like tags were just new back then. I'd be like, there's no way
- 8:40that that's gonna work, no way. Well, it worked. Not only
- 8:43did it work, but it worked really well. They tagged eight endangered sea
- 8:47lions, and it kind
- 8:51of unraveled the mystery of some of the bottom areas that
- 8:54they were able to go into and that they were able to find some
- 8:58of the areas that they were finding and map about 5,000 square kilometers of
- 9:01seabed in Southern Australia. Now, that
- 9:05is something that is pretty cool. And
- 9:08they were able to get critical information that provided management
- 9:12to protect an endangered species, but could also be used
- 9:15to survey other marine species of interest. endangered
- 9:27Australian sea lions, so Neofoca cinerea, that's
- 9:31the Latin name, I'm not trying to swear on this, to carry cameras.
- 9:34So the resulting videos allowed researchers to identify previously unmapped
- 9:38benthic habitats used by the sea lions on the
- 9:41continental shelf. They published their results in Frontiers in Marine Science.
- 9:45So using animal-borne video, this is a quote, using
- 9:48animal-borne video and movement data from a benthic predator is
- 9:51a really effective way of mapping diverse benthic habitats across large
- 9:55areas of the seabed, said the first author, Nathan Angelakis, Angelakis,
- 10:00Angelakis? I'm not sure how to pronounce that. A PhD student at the University
- 10:04of Adelaide and the Southern Australian Research and
- 10:07Development Institute of Aquatic Sciences. So these data are
- 10:11useful both for mapping critical habitats for an endangered species, such
- 10:15as the Australian sea lion, and more broadly for mapping unexplored
- 10:19areas around the seabed. Now think about this. You don't know
- 10:22where this animal goes. You put this camera tag on the animal.
- 10:26You don't know where it's going to go. But you also want
- 10:29to know where it's going to go, and you know it's going to be a mystery, so you're tracking these
- 10:32animals. Not only are you tracking these animals, but visually you're able to
- 10:36see what habitats these animals go. Right,
- 10:39so for the project, eight adult female Australian sea lions
- 10:43from Olive Island and Seabay colonies were
- 10:46equipped with small lightweight cameras. So it's so light
- 10:49that they didn't want to affect the drag of the swimming, so they made it really,
- 10:53really light. The cameras and tracking instruments were glued to small pieces of
- 10:56neoprene that were then glued onto the fur of the sea lions, which
- 10:59doesn't harm the sea lions so in total the filming and tracking
- 11:03equipment weigh less than one percent of the lion's body weight the sea
- 11:06lion's body weight to prevent dragging effects and allow the animals to
- 11:09move without restrictions recordings were made over two to three days
- 11:13and they had over 89 hours of recordings it
- 11:16was actually quite amazing now
- 11:20what they're able to do is they're able to look at the video footage of
- 11:2389 hours and go through and say hey let's look at where
- 11:27this these animals went so they had eight animals went in all different
- 11:30directions and what they're out there doing is they're out there trying to
- 11:33get food for their newborns at their colonies so they're going
- 11:37around and trying to find food they're going all different places so they're going you
- 11:40know they all went to different a lot of them went to different habitats and
- 11:44they saw the different habitats that were around and because it had a gps
- 11:47on it they were able to tell where they were at any point i believe at any point
- 11:51in time or it's maybe it's just when they come back up to the surface i'm
- 11:54not too sure about that But it allowed them to move
- 11:57across benthic habitats across more than 5,000 square kilometers of
- 12:01continental shelf. And they're able to see what these animals were
- 12:04seeing as they went through. So that's always great
- 12:08to see. And so I just wanted to go over in
- 12:12this article that I'm searching for as we go. They went through a number
- 12:15of different habitats, six benthic habitats, macroalgae reef,
- 12:21macroalgae meadow, bear sand, sponge and
- 12:24sand habitats, invertebrate reefs and invertebrate boulders.
- 12:29So these are the different types of you know categories of
- 12:32benthic habitats that are in that area and they got to see all
- 12:35of it and they were able to make predictions based on these areas. They
- 12:39they sort of were very conservative and they only went to a small area but
- 12:42based on what they saw and how far out they saw they can make
- 12:46those calculations of look this isn't where you know the
- 12:49sponge sand area is and this is how big it is and
- 12:52this is invertebrate reefs and this is invertebrate boulder and then they can go out
- 12:55and ground truth it after to see hey how far off
- 12:59are we on this you know is this where the the actual location is
- 13:02how big is it were we close in our predictions of the size and probably that
- 13:06will be able that algorithm will be able to change over time but
- 13:10being able to see these differences in benthic
- 13:13habitats and how these marine mammals go and marine mammals are perfect for
- 13:17this and like animals like sharks are perfect because they're migratory species like
- 13:20they move over large areas they may not be fully migratory they
- 13:23may stay in one specific area but they move they move over a number
- 13:26of different habitats they're not like a crab that might stay in one
- 13:30habitat once it reaches adulthood and never really move through
- 13:33across like different habitats because that's the habitat it wants to stay in But
- 13:37when you have a sea lion, for instance, an
- 13:40Australian sea lion, you can find out where it goes. And now once you've
- 13:43got the mapping done, this is where the conservation begins, you
- 13:47can see the areas that are used by these eight sea
- 13:51lions. And then you're probably going to do more studies to find out where maybe
- 13:54another eight sea lions go, or maybe even more, maybe even less.
- 13:58You're going to see where those tags go. You're going to see what they
- 14:01see. You're going to be able to find out how diverse
- 14:04these habitats are, how small, how big. Are there areas where there's
- 14:08some that are bigger than others? Are there some that are like a lot of
- 14:11gradient habitats? We're going to see all of that
- 14:15in due time. But you get to do it without paying the expensive
- 14:20bill for a remotely operated vehicle, or a boat that
- 14:23you have to use a remotely operated vehicle on, or even a drone
- 14:27to be able to, if you can see these habitats, depending on how deep they are, you
- 14:30know, to take a boat that you have to take when you're over the water because
- 14:34for a drone, because you have to be near the remote control or
- 14:38near the drone when you're flying. So you can't, there's only a certain range you can fly
- 14:41off the coast. You have to have a boat. Boats are really expensive. Gas is
- 14:44really expensive and not every organization or
- 14:47researcher can afford that. It's not, very little can afford that, especially
- 14:51the boats that would be required to operate like a remotely operated vehicle. So
- 14:55it's kind of fun to see ecologists
- 14:59and conservationists to use an animal to say, hey, buddy, where
- 15:02do you go? Let me know where you go, and I'm going to try and protect that.
- 15:06So let's work together on this. And essentially, these sea lions are
- 15:09protecting themselves, which is great to see. That's what we want
- 15:12to see in the future. That's how we always want to see it. And so I
- 15:16feel like that's where we need to go. and use these
- 15:19types of techniques as long as they're safe for the animals, but
- 15:23you want to find out where these animals are going, especially animals that will
- 15:26cross a number of different habitats, this could be an important precedent
- 15:30to set and look for conservation and exploration
- 15:34of different habitats when you have these types of tags. Now, it's not
- 15:37going to be easy. There could be a lot of problems with tags. The
- 15:41glue may not hold. It may pop off a little earlier. Obviously, you
- 15:44don't want to harm the animal in any shape or form, so you have to follow specific
- 15:48protocols. Those change all the time, so making sure you stay up to
- 15:51date on those protocols. But the real frustration is if the camera
- 15:55doesn't work when you get down there, or maybe it gets scratched, or
- 15:58maybe the sea lion hits up against a
- 16:02rock, and that goes flying, or you lose it. you know there's a lot
- 16:05of it's not an easy thing to do it's not you just stick on the back and wait for
- 16:08the animal to come back and then you you do it and that's how they got the the tags by
- 16:12the way is they'd wait till the animals came back the mothers came back to
- 16:15feed their young and they would grab the the cameras off of them they would probably
- 16:18sedate them There's a picture on here, there's actually a video on here about
- 16:22where they go, it's really cool, I highly recommend you look at the link that
- 16:25I'm going to put in the show notes. But they also have to
- 16:29sedate the animal because it's going to protect itself, it doesn't know what you're
- 16:32trying to do, it doesn't know you're trying to help it, and so you have to sedate
- 16:35the animal, take that off, and so that's a process, and that's going to take a
- 16:38little time, and to make sure you map all these habitats using these
- 16:42animals takes a lot of time, but you have to remember They are animals and
- 16:45they need to be protected and they need to be treated properly and that's what these
- 16:49researchers are probably doing, I hope. I pretty much know
- 16:52because they have to follow specific protocols when dealing marine mammals and
- 16:56permitting and everything and so we're seeing that. We're
- 16:59seeing that being taken care of and hopefully, you know, in
- 17:02the future that will continue to get better and better and more animals will be
- 17:05able to tell us where they go and we can better protect them. So,
- 17:09that's it. That's the episode for today. I
- 17:13thought it was a fun article to go over. I'm going
- 17:16to put, like I said, I'm going to put the link in the show. There's a great video that I'll
- 17:20point you to on YouTube and in the article, and you can
- 17:23go and take a look at that. That was on fizz.org, a great site
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- 18:19Protect the Ocean podcast. Have a great day. We'll talk to you next time. And happy