Latest / Scam Goddess / The Dubious Diplomat w/ Ira Madison III (Re-Release)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Scott scam Right, goddess, what's up, Congregation?
- 0:20Speaker 2: Is Sugarl Lacy Mosley aka scam Goddess, back with another
- 0:24Speaker 2: episode of the show Scam Goddess. Yes, I named the
- 0:26Speaker 2: show after me, Hanny. I always say I'm excited about
- 0:29Speaker 2: my guest. I always mean it, but I truly have
- 0:32Speaker 2: because this happened on Twitter, honey, So this is actually
- 0:35Speaker 2: on y'all. Shout out to the Twitter fans who have
- 0:37Speaker 2: started making requests and bookings, honey, bookings. So because we
- 0:41Speaker 2: have iral mans the third in the building.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Hello, how are you good? God? I really did get booked.
- 0:50Speaker 2: Got booked via Twitter. He has a really amazing podcast
- 0:53Speaker 2: called keep It that you all should be listening to
- 0:55Speaker 2: if you're not already. It's hilarious. It's so good. And
- 0:58Speaker 2: he's a TV writer and if you love You, he's
- 1:00Speaker 2: on the second season of You making a Little cavyout
- 1:03Speaker 2: and it's so good.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Talking about scams and say.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Into that, Oh my gosh, yes, right, all right, because
- 1:08Speaker 2: you right for TV. And then you know someone you
- 1:11Speaker 2: know someone who made that job. Yes, yes, that's so dope. Wait,
- 1:15Speaker 2: so you're the third, so there's a there's three other
- 1:17Speaker 2: Iro mass your Grandpa.
- 1:19Speaker 1: There's two others other I can't count.
- 1:22Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:22Speaker 1: I was like, and there's three more. Yeah, they're dead.
- 1:25Speaker 1: It's all good. We got to talk about that, okay.
- 1:27Speaker 2: Well chill, all right, Well there.
- 1:30Speaker 1: We go, Ira, the only.
- 1:34Speaker 2: You're the only person to make that statement after the former.
- 1:39Speaker 2: I love it, guys. I can't see this already. Gonna
- 1:41Speaker 2: be a fun ass episode. I can't wait. So, Ira,
- 1:43Speaker 2: what is your relationship with scams?
- 1:45Speaker 1: What is you know? I feel like I love a
- 1:48Speaker 1: good scam, you know, anything from when I went to
- 1:55Speaker 1: like the Golden Globes like after parties last year, I stopped.
- 1:59Speaker 1: I stopped by Stephora and got the face done. You
- 2:03Speaker 1: know I learned before Next Model, did you? Yeah?
- 2:08Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're out, you got to go somewhere and
- 2:10Speaker 2: you need to beat your face real quick. Just going
- 2:12Speaker 2: to a makeup store and just start using all the product.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Yes. Oh no, I just got sat down. I sat
- 2:16Speaker 1: down and got like a oh, just show me in
- 2:19Speaker 1: La the highlight like every show the full face. Yes,
- 2:22Speaker 1: I was like, ooh, can I get someone a stampless
- 2:25Speaker 1: and then rolled out.
- 2:25Speaker 2: Show me a last, show me a blotting sheet, show
- 2:28Speaker 2: me it to go back. I love it.
- 2:31Speaker 1: I love it. Yes.
- 2:33Speaker 2: I stopped scamming on award shows a few years ago
- 2:36Speaker 2: because I was like, Okay, I'm getting to the point
- 2:37Speaker 2: where like I will be invited to them, so I
- 2:40Speaker 2: need to stop just showing up a scheming. It's too hot.
- 2:45Speaker 1: But it's so easier for LA to do it too,
- 2:47Speaker 1: like trying and scam your way into a party too.
- 2:49Speaker 2: It's great sam My way into the Fox search like
- 2:51Speaker 2: Emmy's party last two years ago and a half years,
- 2:54Speaker 2: maybe three years.
- 2:55Speaker 1: How did you do that?
- 2:56Speaker 2: I just showed up and it was funny because we
- 2:58Speaker 2: were just at the v H one Hip Hop Honors,
- 3:00Speaker 2: which is a whole different vibe. I was wearing a
- 3:03Speaker 2: white plastic dress.
- 3:05Speaker 1: It works. But they weren't ready for it. They weren't ready.
- 3:10Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no. But I showed up and I
- 3:11Speaker 2: was like, I left my whatever credentials and I was like,
- 3:14Speaker 2: I gotta go. I just pretended to be drunk. I
- 3:16Speaker 2: was like, I gotta go back to the bathroom. I
- 3:17Speaker 2: love my wallet, and they were just like, okay, I
- 3:23Speaker 2: ain't been up in there at all.
- 3:25Speaker 1: I love it.
- 3:25Speaker 2: Yes, it was good, it was great. Yes, So you
- 3:27Speaker 2: know something all you gotta do is act like you
- 3:29Speaker 2: belong there. That's one of the things I love about scammers.
- 3:31Speaker 2: It's just like you.
- 3:32Speaker 1: You always get caught when you walk up and look
- 3:34Speaker 1: nervous like you're about to ask someone a question.
- 3:38Speaker 2: Exactly and look bored. You gotta look like everything here
- 3:40Speaker 2: is nasty. Yeah, I don't want to be here, and
- 3:43Speaker 2: that's how you get aside.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:45Speaker 2: Well, guys, we have a listener letter for what's hot
- 3:47Speaker 2: and fraud. Guys, you've been sitting in such great listener letters.
- 3:50Speaker 2: My only notice some of these is too long. Honey,
- 3:52Speaker 2: y'all send me books. Okay. Look, I read my books
- 3:54Speaker 2: on my vacations. I did not read them in my inbox.
- 3:57Speaker 2: Y'all keep it so sancd Okay, But this one comes
- 4:00Speaker 2: from what am I going to name you? Leroy Jenkins
- 4:06Speaker 2: and Leroy says love the podcast. Oh thank you? Okay.
- 4:09Speaker 2: I want to tell you about an old scam that
- 4:12Speaker 2: my coworker was running at a restaurant that I worked
- 4:14Speaker 2: at in college.
- 4:15Speaker 1: She would enter a tip on the credit card when
- 4:17Speaker 1: closing out.
- 4:17Speaker 2: The table, and she would add a dollar or two
- 4:20Speaker 2: to whatever the tip the person left, and she got
- 4:22Speaker 2: away with it. For months before someone actually checked their
- 4:24Speaker 2: credit card statement and called about it. I wasn't working
- 4:27Speaker 2: there anymore when she got caught, but I heard she
- 4:29Speaker 2: got arrested for it, so oh no. Also she was
- 4:32Speaker 2: having an affair with the owner. You dropped dime on
- 4:38Speaker 2: my systems?
- 4:38Speaker 1: Oh you know what that reminds me? So I used
- 4:42Speaker 1: to be a bartender. But one of my bartending gigs
- 4:45Speaker 1: was on Broadway at the Broadway theaters, like at the
- 4:48Speaker 1: Phantom of the Opera Theater in August Osage County. I
- 4:52Speaker 1: did a course line of Chicago a couple of times.
- 4:56Speaker 2: Were they drinking a lot?
- 4:57Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, those are drinker shop Yes, particularly Fan the Opera.
- 5:01Speaker 1: I love that musical. But the stage show, it's the
- 5:04Speaker 1: same one since eighty six, and he's update. But there'd
- 5:07Speaker 1: be people who took like their wives or like girlfriends
- 5:10Speaker 1: and stuff to the show, or even some women sometimes too,
- 5:13Speaker 1: but they just be like during the second act, they'd
- 5:15Speaker 1: be like, I'm good, like they're downstairs, just like turn
- 5:19Speaker 1: knock him back, knocking them back. I've risended too. I
- 5:23Speaker 1: also do weight tables. I'm trying. Sorry. The reason I
- 5:26Speaker 1: brought those was because I worked with someone who used
- 5:31Speaker 1: to tell people higher prices because the prices weren't listed,
- 5:37Speaker 1: so they would be like, oh, like say like a
- 5:40Speaker 1: vodka soda is seven dollars, it's Broadways, it was like ten,
- 5:44Speaker 1: but they'd be like twelve, and then that extra two
- 5:49Speaker 1: dollars they would put into the tip jaw.
- 5:52Speaker 2: Yes, that's a scamp. Listen. People don't tipping.
- 5:55Speaker 1: And as someone who's worked for tips, right, and I
- 5:57Speaker 1: was like, I'm not snitching, not right because we share
- 5:59Speaker 1: to So I was like, well, I'm not robbing people,
- 6:03Speaker 1: but if you are right, I joined, I get just
- 6:05Speaker 1: joined too. So I was like, they've been running this
- 6:08Speaker 1: racket for you, Like this ain't got nothing to do
- 6:11Speaker 1: with me.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Don't fuck up the back and now wait, were you
- 6:13Speaker 2: giving the accurate price? Because then that could suck it
- 6:14Speaker 2: up if like they went to Homie once and it
- 6:17Speaker 2: was twelve and then they come over to you and
- 6:18Speaker 2: his team.
- 6:18Speaker 1: Right, but these people were drug and like, I feel
- 6:21Speaker 1: like one time it got messed up and then someone
- 6:23Speaker 1: was just like, oh you must like me. He charged
- 6:27Speaker 1: me a little bit more. I'm like I'm just kind
- 6:29Speaker 1: of like whatever.
- 6:30Speaker 2: Their a scammer. Two, Instead of being like what's going on? Here.
- 6:32Speaker 2: They were like, oh less, yes, I will take less.
- 6:35Speaker 1: Yes, But you know, I was like, I was broke.
- 6:37Speaker 1: I was living in New York. I was twenty one.
- 6:39Speaker 1: I was like, as long as they are doing their scam,
- 6:43Speaker 1: let me listen.
- 6:44Speaker 2: I the boss too, So okay, well then you gotta
- 6:47Speaker 2: just play your position. Okay, yeah, exactly. I hate when
- 6:50Speaker 2: somebody doesn't play their position. I did Barton two in
- 6:53Speaker 2: New York when I was actually yeah, twenty two. I
- 6:56Speaker 2: was working in the Hamptons and chaw. It was so
- 6:58Speaker 2: many scams going up in my job, like the owner
- 7:03Speaker 2: or not the owner, but the manager was just like
- 7:05Speaker 2: cocaine and he was drunk all the time, so he
- 7:07Speaker 2: would just be gone like so then like eventually I
- 7:09Speaker 2: learned all the past coasts, all the systems so that
- 7:12Speaker 2: I would be doing the managing because he would be
- 7:14Speaker 2: somewhere turned up and it was waiters, it was selling drugs.
- 7:18Speaker 2: It was a wild place.
- 7:20Speaker 1: I love the job, so you can be gone. So
- 7:22Speaker 1: what if my first jobs in New York was working
- 7:24Speaker 1: at Banana Republic and thirty Rock.
- 7:28Speaker 2: Yes, that's a busy banana pro Yes.
- 7:30Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't know. Why did I transfer there from
- 7:33Speaker 1: the one that I worked at in Chicago when I
- 7:35Speaker 1: moved to New York, and at a certain point I
- 7:39Speaker 1: just stopped going. I really only went because I had
- 7:42Speaker 1: a friend who was in New York for the summer
- 7:45Speaker 1: of that year that i'd first moved there, and they
- 7:48Speaker 1: were interning at Business Week, and so they would always
- 7:52Speaker 1: be like going on group lunches and it was in
- 7:53Speaker 1: thirty Rock, and I was always like, oh, I'll have
- 7:55Speaker 1: lunch with y'all. Like that's how I make friends with them.
- 7:58Speaker 1: So I would just show up to work really to
- 8:00Speaker 1: like come the lunch with them and take like long lunch,
- 8:02Speaker 1: because you know, you we get thirty minutes, might be
- 8:05Speaker 1: there for an hour. And then a certain point I
- 8:07Speaker 1: just stopped going. And then they called me and sat
- 8:10Speaker 1: like a month later, and I'm like, hey, you've been
- 8:12Speaker 1: missing on some shifts, Like do you want to come in?
- 8:15Speaker 1: And I was like, damn sure, and then I went
- 8:17Speaker 1: in and then like halfway into the ships, I was like,
- 8:21Speaker 1: I got to quit. I can't believe.
- 8:23Speaker 2: They must have been the nanner must be desperate, honey,
- 8:25Speaker 2: because they were like, please come back to work.
- 8:28Speaker 1: It was a thirty Rockefeller in the middle of the summer.
- 8:30Speaker 1: I feel like they were just like they need a body, right.
- 8:32Speaker 2: They didn't even care who it was, because I was
- 8:34Speaker 2: about to say, you are a black man, you are
- 8:35Speaker 2: very tall, and I was like, how did nobody know
- 8:38Speaker 2: that show blacks was missing from the Man.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Of Republic because I think we are short a negro?
- 8:45Speaker 1: I didn't see that. In a while folding clause, everybody
- 8:51Speaker 1: just keep saying you in the back, right. Yeah.
- 8:53Speaker 2: They must have been real busy because in retail usually
- 8:56Speaker 2: like it's a high tone turnover so they'll get rid
- 8:58Speaker 2: of you quick. But they were like, please start. You
- 9:00Speaker 2: just come back to where if you don't mind, if
- 9:02Speaker 2: you have any free time because you come back to
- 9:04Speaker 2: your employment.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Just please shout.
- 9:07Speaker 2: Out to Banana Republic. Are they still doing okay?
- 9:11Speaker 1: I don't know. I tried to go into a Banana
- 9:14Speaker 1: Republic recently and I was like, it's just really nothing
- 9:16Speaker 1: for Who are there closed for? I don't know, because
- 9:20Speaker 1: I feel like when I was in like high school,
- 9:23Speaker 1: well I went to an all boys like Catholic high school,
- 9:26Speaker 1: but even I felt like when I was in high
- 9:27Speaker 1: school and like college, like that was a thing, like
- 9:30Speaker 1: that was fancy quote unquote right, right, for like my family.
- 9:33Speaker 1: So they're like, oh, we'll go get you look in
- 9:35Speaker 1: a sweater, a Banana Republic something like that. But then
- 9:40Speaker 1: I don't know. At a certain point, living in New York,
- 9:42Speaker 1: I grew out of shopping at Banana Republic because what
- 9:44Speaker 1: would I get there?
- 9:45Speaker 2: I did too, And now I'm thinking about, like who
- 9:47Speaker 2: their demographic is. I feel like it's like white secretaries,
- 9:50Speaker 2: anybody who calls a manager. Yes, I feel like that's
- 9:53Speaker 2: who they're outfitting. And I guess like corporate, yeah, yeah,
- 9:58Speaker 2: I don't know, child but was Michelle? I would wear
- 10:00Speaker 2: a Banana.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Republic maybe, but you know, probably like couture banana. Okay, plantain.
- 10:10Speaker 2: Michelle got on that new plante.
- 10:13Speaker 1: Yes, scarce.
- 10:18Speaker 2: Ad Guys, it's time for my favorite savorite and.
- 10:24Speaker 1: Favorite savor It.
- 10:26Speaker 2: Savor it, Savor the favorite, Yes, savor the favorite. Uh.
- 10:30Speaker 2: Section of this podcast called Historic Hoodwings. So I'm going
- 10:35Speaker 2: to regale Ira with a very infamous Cohn and we're
- 10:38Speaker 2: gonna get his thoughts on this one. So I thought
- 10:40Speaker 2: about you when I when I chose this, I think
- 10:43Speaker 2: that you'll enjoy this. And you already said you worked
- 10:45Speaker 2: in Retael, you know a little about the fashion and
- 10:47Speaker 2: the flexing. The story is a fake Saudi prince who
- 10:53Speaker 2: flaunted on Instagram and has been sentenced to major fraud schemes.
- 10:57Speaker 2: And he posed for decades as a name or under
- 11:01Speaker 2: the name Prince Khalid. Yes, the singer it right back.
- 11:12Speaker 2: So with his cover was about to be blown, he
- 11:14Speaker 2: staged a chantrum in an Aspen hotel to try to
- 11:17Speaker 2: cover it up. So he fought till the end. And
- 11:20Speaker 2: that's what I love, Like, I don't want you to
- 11:22Speaker 2: give up. I don't want you to quit, like if
- 11:24Speaker 2: it's going left, like you go down with the ship.
- 11:26Speaker 2: My man's played it like the Titanic. He was on
- 11:28Speaker 2: his violin, just playing as the scam ship went down.
- 11:31Speaker 2: And I'm living for it. So this is how to start.
- 11:34Speaker 2: His name is Gignak and he's right behind you if
- 11:38Speaker 2: you want to take a look at him.
- 11:38Speaker 1: He kind of cute. He is cute. He's cute. Yeah,
- 11:41Speaker 1: I feel like that.
- 11:41Speaker 2: Further the scam. We've talked about this. Scammers have to
- 11:44Speaker 2: be courageous. It helps if you a little sexy, you
- 11:46Speaker 2: know what I mean, because everybody likes to look at
- 11:48Speaker 2: a sexy person.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Yes, ugly scammers. I'm very proud of them because they
- 11:52Speaker 1: have overcome the hoya. Yes they have because everybody looked at.
- 11:55Speaker 2: Them and said no, and they somehow got them to
- 11:57Speaker 2: say yes. And I am if you're a not so
- 12:00Speaker 2: hot scammer, honestly.
- 12:02Speaker 1: You're doing the Lord's work. Damn.
- 12:03Speaker 2: This is his current instagram. He has three thousand followers.
- 12:07Speaker 1: It's the photo. When was it recently taking?
- 12:10Speaker 2: Yeah, click on that.
- 12:12Speaker 1: And it was oh, October twenty seventeen.
- 12:14Speaker 2: Okay, so he been in the clink for at least
- 12:17Speaker 2: two years? Why you not on a gram and the clink?
- 12:19Speaker 2: Bruh JT had a jail Graham popping JT never missed
- 12:23Speaker 2: a Poto.
- 12:24Speaker 1: Shoot, double tap JT, Free JT and double tap JT.
- 12:29Speaker 2: Every time they said they had yard time, she was like, bet,
- 12:31Speaker 2: let's get the lights together, get my ring lights because
- 12:35Speaker 2: she gave us Lukes in the Prinson. Okay, okay, so
- 12:38Speaker 2: damn he was living good, I guess until up around
- 12:40Speaker 2: October twenty seventeen. His instagram has like three thousand followers.
- 12:45Speaker 2: The name is like Prince Underscore O seven, which don't
- 12:49Speaker 2: sound like Dubai Prince Dubai O seven, which honestly sounds
- 12:53Speaker 2: like something I would have made my aol Aim profile
- 12:56Speaker 2: when I was in seventh grade.
- 12:57Speaker 1: Look, this thing was like a stack in the car. Okay.
- 13:00Speaker 2: So his name is Gignak. That's his real name, not
- 13:03Speaker 2: Prince Khalid, and he went by the moniker Prince Khalid
- 13:07Speaker 2: Alsawed of Saudi Arabia and for more than three decade, honey,
- 13:12Speaker 2: three of them, thanks Coronell, because he's phony life of
- 13:16Speaker 2: luxury on Instagram, which we're looking at right now. The
- 13:19Speaker 2: forty eight year old lived in Miami, star studded Fisher
- 13:22Speaker 2: Island with forty a right, Khalei, what are we riving
- 13:29Speaker 2: on that skin? Because I need some. So he referred
- 13:33Speaker 2: to himself as Prince Sultan and his Royal Highness. These
- 13:36Speaker 2: are the names for himself, and he demanded pricey gifts
- 13:39Speaker 2: from his business partners. But in reality, Gignac was from Columbia,
- 13:43Speaker 2: an orphan born Anthony Moreno, so that ain't even his name.
- 13:47Speaker 2: So his real name is Anthony Moreno. We got three
- 13:50Speaker 2: aliases going on here, and I love a scammer. Alias
- 13:53Speaker 2: mine is a little too obvious. I've said that before.
- 13:55Speaker 2: I'm gonna work on it.
- 13:58Speaker 1: This post will make Before he got sentenced to eighteen years. Wow,
- 14:04Speaker 1: people are so disrespectful.
- 14:06Speaker 2: The next one says, baha ha haha, Wait go back.
- 14:08Speaker 1: The next one says, baha ha haha.
- 14:10Speaker 2: Great seeing him on American Greed, crime Face, crime Face,
- 14:14Speaker 2: crime Face. So he must have been on another show
- 14:17Speaker 2: called American Greek because people are getting the tea waits
- 14:19Speaker 2: scroll up. I want to see some more of these comments.
- 14:21Speaker 2: People are disrespectful. I gotta have somebody deactivate my Instagram
- 14:24Speaker 2: when I'm dead, because I do not want y'all commented
- 14:26Speaker 2: on my swim soup.
- 14:27Speaker 1: He will read our rip. He will read our comments
- 14:29Speaker 1: in twenty thirty eight. Oh y'all are shady? Oh free Foxy.
- 14:36Speaker 2: Yes, free, my man's I'm with it. It's Foxy the dog.
- 14:39Speaker 2: He you taking a picture with a dog? Aw, Guys,
- 14:43Speaker 2: people are rude. Okay.
- 14:45Speaker 1: They are on his Instagram turning the fuck up and
- 14:47Speaker 1: it's very funny. Well, are you envious? People? Most of
- 14:51Speaker 1: you would trade gladly trade your whole life for one
- 14:54Speaker 1: month of his in his prime.
- 14:56Speaker 2: Listen, you better stand up for I king right, my
- 14:59Speaker 2: whole life though, my whole life for Okay, would you
- 15:02Speaker 2: trade your whole life for thirty years of being filthy, nasty, rich.
- 15:06Speaker 1: Well thirty years. I'm old now too, because sent me
- 15:13Speaker 1: the prison at that edge, I want to be here,
- 15:17Speaker 1: is it? Yeah?
- 15:18Speaker 2: I feel like going to prison older is definitely better
- 15:20Speaker 2: than going younger, even though I guess you would want
- 15:22Speaker 2: creature comforts when you're older. But when you yell and
- 15:24Speaker 2: you hot, spicy, like you're supposed to have them thighs
- 15:26Speaker 2: out here in the streets.
- 15:27Speaker 1: Yeah, three decads, that's long. I would be like, yeah,
- 15:31Speaker 1: like you're supposed to do that scamming and like quit
- 15:33Speaker 1: right before you get caught. But I guess if you
- 15:36Speaker 1: do that for three decades, you you just get you
- 15:39Speaker 1: think you're never gonna get caught, right.
- 15:41Speaker 2: Also, it's a profession, like scamming is a profession, and
- 15:44Speaker 2: a lot of people some people get in and get out,
- 15:47Speaker 2: or they get in and they go straight, like jay
- 15:48Speaker 2: Z was a scammer and then he went straight clean
- 15:50Speaker 2: up all his money, paid a friend to go to
- 15:52Speaker 2: jail for him. Y'all, don't don't have biance out here
- 15:54Speaker 2: trying to kill me though. That's all I'm gonna say. Okay, yeah,
- 15:57Speaker 2: saying to me and any of that. I love your
- 15:58Speaker 2: husband him right now right, were loving him. I just
- 16:01Speaker 2: got check with Beyonce before I said it. Lovet she
- 16:05Speaker 2: love him, I love him. She don't want to talk
- 16:06Speaker 2: to him. I'm not talking to him. That's how it goes.
- 16:09Speaker 2: But okay, So the real Prince Khalid is actually seventy
- 16:13Speaker 2: nine years old and he's a governor of Mecca, which
- 16:16Speaker 2: I thought was interesting too because he picked somebody so
- 16:19Speaker 2: old that like, we're not going to see any pics
- 16:20Speaker 2: of real Khalead on the ground, like a no seventy
- 16:23Speaker 2: nine year old out here post a snapchat, So we've
- 16:25Speaker 2: probably never seen Drake. Drake is tulp for me. I've
- 16:31Speaker 2: seen Drake's dad in the club and it made me
- 16:32Speaker 2: question my life choices.
- 16:34Speaker 1: Truly.
- 16:34Speaker 2: I was like, Drake's dad is right here? What am
- 16:36Speaker 2: I doing? One of us is not supposed to be here,
- 16:39Speaker 2: and I'm thinking it's me. So the word was spreading
- 16:43Speaker 2: that there was a Saudi prince in Miami and he
- 16:44Speaker 2: was looking to invest six hundred million dollars and people
- 16:48Speaker 2: were excited. The city was talking, the streets were talking.
- 16:51Speaker 2: So Jeffrey Softfer, who's a billionaire real estate developer who
- 16:54Speaker 2: owns the famous Fountain Blue which I've stayed in, and
- 16:57Speaker 2: the Found Blue was very cute. You meet you little
- 17:00Speaker 2: athlete up in near Honey, Okay, And it's in Miami Beach.
- 17:04Speaker 2: They have a few of them. Oh and it's also
- 17:05Speaker 2: where club Live is. Isn't live in the Fund Blue?
- 17:08Speaker 1: I think? So?
- 17:09Speaker 2: Yeah it is, I'm pretty sure. So it's a very
- 17:11Speaker 2: lit place. There's alway celebs. There's always a rapper and
- 17:14Speaker 2: a Mayback Mayback music. So he says he wants to
- 17:18Speaker 2: invest six hundred million dollars in the Fountain Blue. So
- 17:21Speaker 2: software initially fell for the ploy. That's the guy who
- 17:24Speaker 2: owns it gifting the crickage Shake with fifty thousand dollars
- 17:29Speaker 2: in luxury items. Because this is like a customary thing
- 17:32Speaker 2: like amongst like Saudi Arabian culture and how they do
- 17:35Speaker 2: business is like you will gift people with, you know,
- 17:39Speaker 2: possessions or whatever. So I guess like good faith or whatever.
- 17:42Speaker 2: So this was not abnormal for Jeffrey Softfer in this
- 17:45Speaker 2: kind of situation. Surprisingly, I'm gonna call him Anthony. They
- 17:49Speaker 2: got him listening here as Gignak, but I'm like, who
- 17:51Speaker 2: is that? His name is Anthony Moreno. So Anthony Moreno
- 17:54Speaker 2: has been arrested eleven times for prince related schemes prior
- 17:59Speaker 2: to the latest. So he has been getting caught okay,
- 18:02Speaker 2: but he's been getting doing it okay, which I love
- 18:05Speaker 2: that because maybe it's like he gets caught, he's like, okay,
- 18:07Speaker 2: let me tweak that, let me recont Yes, yes, she
- 18:13Speaker 2: gets caught and it's criticism.
- 18:14Speaker 1: He's like okay.
- 18:16Speaker 2: He's like, they're like, sir, why are you taking notes
- 18:20Speaker 2: right now? He's like, no, so what else y'all charging
- 18:22Speaker 2: me with? Okay? And how did y'all find that out?
- 18:26Speaker 2: You're trying to improve? I love it. I would love
- 18:29Speaker 2: to just go to jail and be like, yeah, so
- 18:30Speaker 2: what am I doing wrong in my crimes? Like, please
- 18:33Speaker 2: let me know. So he keeps up this gimmick by
- 18:36Speaker 2: always traveling with his chihuahuah, Foxy, which we saw his
- 18:38Speaker 2: fans on his Instagram, Free Foxy, Free Foxy, And where
- 18:42Speaker 2: did Foxy go? That's the real victim here. And she
- 18:45Speaker 2: had a diamond and crusted collar. Honey, is it a
- 18:47Speaker 2: diamond collar in that picture? Very rich? If your dog
- 18:51Speaker 2: has jewelry, then you know you're rich. So that's a
- 18:54Speaker 2: diamond and crusted collar for your dog.
- 18:56Speaker 1: Yes, why are you flotting out your dog? I have questions.
- 19:01Speaker 2: I just want to be your dog.
- 19:02Speaker 1: At this point.
- 19:04Speaker 2: That fit around my name. I can get that around
- 19:06Speaker 2: my neckular extension. Going, give me some rope. I'm his
- 19:10Speaker 2: new dog. So to save money on keeping up appearances,
- 19:13Speaker 2: he often bought cheap rolexes available, and then are the
- 19:16Speaker 2: cheapest rolexes available, and then he would have a jeweler
- 19:19Speaker 2: glue inexpensive diamonds to them, many of them fake. Listen,
- 19:24Speaker 2: as much as I'd like to think that I have
- 19:26Speaker 2: an eye for diamonds, if someone had a jewel and
- 19:28Speaker 2: crusted rolex like it was some zorconia on there, I
- 19:31Speaker 2: wouldn't know, especially if he mixed it in if it
- 19:34Speaker 2: was like a few real ones with some zorconiums too. Child,
- 19:37Speaker 2: and diamonds are a scam. You know how many diamonds
- 19:39Speaker 2: are in the world. The only reason they're precious is
- 19:41Speaker 2: because they're hoarding them and bringing them out little by little.
- 19:44Speaker 2: So as you got free the diamonds, Free the diamonds.
- 19:47Speaker 2: That's my new campaign. Free the diamonds. So he leased
- 19:50Speaker 2: and borrowed luxury cars, yachts and under various pretenses. He
- 19:55Speaker 2: would like, have these different cars and vehicles, and then
- 19:58Speaker 2: when they would disappear, he said he'd grown tired of them.
- 20:01Speaker 1: Mmm.
- 20:02Speaker 2: So we'd be like, oh, hey, hey, Priscale, what happened
- 20:05Speaker 2: to that mayback you had last week? Oh I'm I'm
- 20:09Speaker 2: tired of it. But wasn't it a twenty twenty?
- 20:11Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 20:11Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know some new shit out.
- 20:13Speaker 1: What happened to that boo you was dating? Got tired?
- 20:16Speaker 1: I got tired. I moved on. How into your apartment?
- 20:19Speaker 1: I got tired.
- 20:21Speaker 2: I got tired of mouth.
- 20:22Speaker 1: That's why I'm at this hotel.
- 20:24Speaker 2: What happened to your shoes? I got tired of shoes?
- 20:28Speaker 2: Were going barefoot? Now that's what real rich people do.
- 20:31Speaker 2: So we would all go to lunch in Miami, and
- 20:34Speaker 2: the Sultan would say, let's go to the fourth season
- 20:36Speaker 2: because my family owns it, recalls Visser, who was a
- 20:40Speaker 2: CBS sportscaster. So now he does the next scammer thing,
- 20:43Speaker 2: which is I get your scammer crew, like friends who
- 20:45Speaker 2: got money, people who make you look poppy. So when
- 20:47Speaker 2: Leslie's husband asked the Prince, which one of the king's
- 20:50Speaker 2: wives is your mother, he chuckled and responded the good one. Yo,
- 20:59Speaker 2: my man's is a liear, Like why would you hear that?
- 21:03Speaker 2: And then be like, okay, that adds up.
- 21:06Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very sketchy, like.
- 21:09Speaker 2: If I asked you who your parents were. Okay. So
- 21:12Speaker 2: her husband, who was with the CIA for ten years,
- 21:15Speaker 2: and she says, we were pretty aware of people, you know,
- 21:18Speaker 2: who were shady or who were liars, because you know,
- 21:20Speaker 2: being around the CIA. But we were totally fooled and
- 21:25Speaker 2: maybe y'all weren't that good in the CIA. Maybe if
- 21:29Speaker 2: I asked somebody which mama was, they mama and they
- 21:31Speaker 2: said the good one, and then I'd be like, okay,
- 21:34Speaker 2: but who who?
- 21:35Speaker 1: Really?
- 21:37Speaker 2: No follow up questions, You're like checks out right, no,
- 21:43Speaker 2: which I want?
- 21:44Speaker 1: The state? We've moved on.
- 21:47Speaker 2: So she said her husband once saw him write a
- 21:50Speaker 2: note in Arabic and thought it looked authentic. So remember
- 21:53Speaker 2: he's from Columbia, and I would hope over this period
- 21:56Speaker 2: of time he's learned, like a little bit of farcia
- 21:59Speaker 2: that it was Arabic. Don't say that.
- 22:04Speaker 1: I don't trust her. She didn't even ask about the
- 22:07Speaker 1: ragbob and probably fake, right, probably wing dings.
- 22:11Speaker 2: Not web beings. You were doing squiggles. Did you see
- 22:15Speaker 2: that picture of a donut that was going around some
- 22:19Speaker 2: crazy right when people were posting this picture of a
- 22:21Speaker 2: donut from Starbucks that had like squiggly icing on the side,
- 22:23Speaker 2: and they were like, this is Farsi and they're telling
- 22:26Speaker 2: us about Sharia lah it's like on a donut from
- 22:30Speaker 2: Starbucks Starbucks. So she's like, look, I saw this donut
- 22:35Speaker 2: once at Starbucks. I know that's Arabic. Okay. So even
- 22:39Speaker 2: agents with the Diplomatic Security Service were impressed by one
- 22:42Speaker 2: aspect of Anthony's ruse. While they were executing a search
- 22:46Speaker 2: warran of his condo. A boy who looked like he
- 22:48Speaker 2: was maybe nine or ten years old approached one of
- 22:50Speaker 2: them and said, are you a DSS agent? He asked,
- 22:53Speaker 2: and the agent was startled. Most people have never heard
- 22:55Speaker 2: of the DSS. How do you know that, he demanded,
- 22:58Speaker 2: And the boy said, oh, the prince that lives there,
- 23:00Speaker 2: he has DSS agents. So he hired people to print
- 23:05Speaker 2: to pretend to be Diplomatic Security Service people. And I'm
- 23:08Speaker 2: just wondering how much were they getting on the payroll.
- 23:12Speaker 2: Is this like a backstage cast thing, you know? Is
- 23:15Speaker 2: this a cragslric audition, can I audition to be a
- 23:18Speaker 2: secret service. So the princess supplied his personal bodyguards with
- 23:23Speaker 2: bogus diplomatic security service badges that looked better than the
- 23:27Speaker 2: real thing. Is what the people in the agency say.
- 23:29Speaker 2: So he had to drip game that they had your
- 23:32Speaker 2: pieces that led to nowhere, that heard nobody. You put
- 23:37Speaker 2: the interviews on this nobody. So okay, all right. So
- 23:44Speaker 2: people start getting suspicious because despite his elaborate efforts to
- 23:47Speaker 2: maintain his image, he forgot a well known Muslim rule
- 23:50Speaker 2: which any respectable Saudi prince would honor, which is pork
- 23:54Speaker 2: is off limits. My man's got ousted by bacon.
- 23:59Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that if you got all this money,
- 24:07Speaker 1: all these schemes, do you really need to still be
- 24:10Speaker 1: eating bacon? List bacon is rich or poor, true, but
- 24:16Speaker 1: but for the black you're right, give up the bacon. Yeah, well,
- 24:21Speaker 1: atleast don't eat it in front of people, right.
- 24:23Speaker 2: Or at least make a little like note to it,
- 24:25Speaker 2: like my father would kill me and and Nibbylona. You
- 24:28Speaker 2: can't just be He was like, let me get a
- 24:30Speaker 2: grand slam. Y'all got maple bacon? Yeah, fresh off the pig,
- 24:36Speaker 2: thank you, and some sausage.
- 24:38Speaker 1: Like what are you doing?
- 24:39Speaker 2: Bruh. I hate that it was something as small as bacon,
- 24:41Speaker 2: but I feel like when you're scamming, it always like.
- 24:43Speaker 1: The little It's always something very tiny.
- 24:45Speaker 2: Yes, And so when Shaffer, who was the hotel magnet
- 24:49Speaker 2: who owns the Fountain Blue, caught him eating bacon and
- 24:52Speaker 2: other pork products, so he didn't stop with bacon. He
- 24:54Speaker 2: hired private investigators to look into the alleged prints, which
- 24:58Speaker 2: ultimately led to an FBI pro The FBI probe did
- 25:01Speaker 2: not settle well with the Prince. Prince Khalid been out
- 25:05Speaker 2: sawed was having a thunderous meltdown in the lobby of
- 25:08Speaker 2: the Saint Regis Hotel in Aspen, which that is a
- 25:10Speaker 2: very nice hotel. I love a Saint Regi's honey, ranting
- 25:13Speaker 2: and raving about a crime being committed against him. The
- 25:16Speaker 2: crime was disrespect mm hmm.
- 25:19Speaker 1: I say that Saint Regis in Atlanta and that.
- 25:22Speaker 2: Was nice too, that's cute. I like the Saint Ragis
- 25:24Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Up there, it's a cute around and I
- 25:26Speaker 2: look like a prostitute, but be available.
- 25:33Speaker 1: So he had a meltaindown and aspa.
- 25:36Speaker 2: Yes, which is very funny. So Prince Khalid the opre ski, listen,
- 25:42Speaker 2: I wish I could been there. I wish I was
- 25:44Speaker 2: in the lobby, you know, toasting my snow boots, and
- 25:46Speaker 2: I could have caught this, because this is very funny.
- 25:49Speaker 2: So he says, you have assaulted my honor. The Prince shrieked.
- 25:52Speaker 1: My father.
- 25:52Speaker 2: The King is going to be very upset. This is
- 25:55Speaker 2: not how you do business with royalty.
- 25:58Speaker 1: My father the no name.
- 26:02Speaker 2: The king did he even look up names because my
- 26:06Speaker 2: man had says zero name nothing my father king father.
- 26:14Speaker 1: Shit. He about to be pissed, like we sorry, you couldn't.
- 26:17Speaker 2: You could have did a quick google. We could have
- 26:18Speaker 2: had at least one google. He could have came up
- 26:20Speaker 2: with one mom. Who was his mom? Not the good one,
- 26:23Speaker 2: not the king. This is getting a little lazy for me,
- 26:25Speaker 2: but he did it for thirty years, so who am
- 26:29Speaker 2: I to say what you need to know? So, accompanied
- 26:31Speaker 2: by his diamond bedecked chihuahuah Foxy, the Prince was screaming
- 26:35Speaker 2: at Softfi's representatives, threatened to sue them for their intolerance.
- 26:39Speaker 2: And he wasn't even a prince. He was a serial
- 26:42Speaker 2: con artist. Right, So the Colombian orphan adopted by a
- 26:45Speaker 2: Michigan family had embarked on this for thirty years, like
- 26:48Speaker 2: we talked about after the meltdown, he upped it to
- 26:51Speaker 2: a higher level. So he could have stopped, but yet
- 26:56Speaker 2: he persisted, which I appreciate perseverance. Do you think if
- 26:59Speaker 2: you go this far like you would stop, would you
- 27:02Speaker 2: be like, oh, never mind, I don't got six hundred
- 27:03Speaker 2: million dollars. I'll see y'all.
- 27:04Speaker 1: I mean he's probably a rush, right, like you just
- 27:07Speaker 1: got to keep doing it.
- 27:08Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
- 27:08Speaker 1: What's supposed to do. Just go back to a normal life,
- 27:11Speaker 1: not scam people.
- 27:12Speaker 2: He's like, all right, y'all right, my name's Anthony. I'm
- 27:14Speaker 2: gonna back up, all right, God bless well. And he
- 27:17Speaker 2: also scammed this pretty far, like this is the same regions.
- 27:19Speaker 2: This isn't even the Fountain Blue in Miami anymore. So
- 27:21Speaker 2: now he been flued out, so I guess you got
- 27:24Speaker 2: to keep it up. So he has his investment banker approach,
- 27:28Speaker 2: So he has an investment banker.
- 27:29Speaker 1: Does his investment banker know how much money he has?
- 27:31Speaker 2: Or is this another hired person from backstage?
- 27:33Speaker 1: Probably? You know, he probably does have money.
- 27:35Speaker 2: You have to mask some amount of money. Have money,
- 27:38Speaker 2: and then maybe if he's selling off these items and
- 27:41Speaker 2: doing these rentals, you're right, You're right. He done got
- 27:43Speaker 2: a little coin. So his investment banker approaches one of
- 27:45Speaker 2: Schaffer's associates in Stafford again it's the hotel Magnet, and
- 27:48Speaker 2: says this deal is going to fall through. She warned him.
- 27:50Speaker 2: So this is a woman. Mmm, okay, Sis.
- 27:54Speaker 1: She was like, I'm not about to get implicated, she.
- 27:58Speaker 2: Said, But no, but she's keeping with the scam. She says,
- 28:01Speaker 2: you have insulted the Prince's honor, and here's how you
- 28:04Speaker 2: need to get back into business.
- 28:05Speaker 1: Oh okay. So she wasn't she wasn't trying to give
- 28:08Speaker 1: them a head zot. No, she was on the scamp.
- 28:11Speaker 2: Okay, I see you, siss. She probably wanted to be
- 28:14Speaker 2: an actress.
- 28:16Speaker 1: Where's she at?
- 28:17Speaker 2: I know, we need to figure out who this woman is.
- 28:19Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to look it up. So here's what
- 28:21Speaker 2: you need to get back in graces with him. You
- 28:23Speaker 2: need to give him a gift. So extrafagan gifts, like
- 28:26Speaker 2: we talked about before our part of the negotiation process
- 28:28Speaker 2: in the Middle East. It's a sign of respect. So
- 28:30Speaker 2: Shaffer had already given him expensive artwork, along with a
- 28:34Speaker 2: five thousand dollars diamond and crusted dog collar and other
- 28:37Speaker 2: trinkets for his dog. Now his Highness wanted something pricier.
- 28:41Speaker 2: It has to be at least fifty thousand dollars.
- 28:44Speaker 1: She said.
- 28:45Speaker 2: I was he going always fifty thousand dollars, right, just
- 28:48Speaker 2: give her your gift or just give fifty. You're just
- 28:52Speaker 2: saying like, maybe also just give us fifty fifty. And
- 28:55Speaker 2: also how does that work? Like I'm gonna give you
- 28:57Speaker 2: six hundred million dollars, but you need to give me
- 28:59Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars. This sounds like the Nigerian prince game.
- 29:03Speaker 2: This is like the escalated in person Nigerian Prince scam
- 29:07Speaker 2: which they actually found like a bunch of money in
- 29:09Speaker 2: some apartment in Nigeria. On Twitter, people were tweeting like,
- 29:12Speaker 2: damn that prince.
- 29:13Speaker 1: Really was it really was trying to give us the money.
- 29:17Speaker 2: I love Nigeria. That's a great industry for scams there
- 29:20Speaker 2: ohm on Nija, you guys know. So the next day,
- 29:24Speaker 2: Shawfor and his team presented a fifty thousand dollars Cardier
- 29:27Speaker 2: bracelet to the prince. So this is after Shawford. My
- 29:31Speaker 2: man has already been like, oh I saw Homie munching
- 29:34Speaker 2: down on support chops. I have people investigating him. Now
- 29:39Speaker 2: he gets mad, throws this fit, and you retract all
- 29:42Speaker 2: your suspicions m hm.
- 29:44Speaker 1: And you call Cardier and say, get me something that
- 29:46Speaker 1: is fifty thousand dollars.
- 29:47Speaker 2: That's probably was the phone call.
- 29:48Speaker 1: He's like, hello, Cardier, what's fifty k Okay, we'll take it.
- 29:54Speaker 2: Don't even look at it. Yeah, no, bring it to
- 29:55Speaker 2: the hotel. Thank you so much. So he got him
- 29:58Speaker 2: back in. He reeled him back into this scam. I
- 30:00Speaker 2: gotta admire my man's anthony because this worked.
- 30:02Speaker 1: Him.
- 30:03Speaker 2: Getting angry worked, that makes sense.
- 30:05Speaker 1: I like that.
- 30:06Speaker 2: You gotta have some gumption, some audacity. So the next
- 30:08Speaker 2: day they give him this bracelet, right gift in hand.
- 30:12Speaker 2: Anthony responds by enhancing his deception even further. So my
- 30:16Speaker 2: man could not stop here. You just got a fifty
- 30:18Speaker 2: thousand dollars bracelet. Bro. He gets a phone call, or
- 30:21Speaker 2: at least he pretends to get a phone call and
- 30:24Speaker 2: says some weird code like zulu red echo thirty three.
- 30:31Speaker 2: So it's like hold on my phone ringing, sir, there's
- 30:34Speaker 2: no one caught your phone not lighting up? No, no, no, no,
- 30:36Speaker 2: it's bringing it. This is an android. Hello, Zulu echo Red.
- 30:41Speaker 1: Can drag people with the androids.
- 30:44Speaker 2: I'm always dragging an android. I'm sorry you're fucking up
- 30:46Speaker 2: my group chats.
- 30:47Speaker 1: Okay, we have a work group chat and it's one
- 30:52Speaker 1: person in the Android always won.
- 30:54Speaker 2: You think you're getting away with it, you start putting
- 30:56Speaker 2: the names in blue.
- 30:57Speaker 1: The worst part, event is when when you react to text,
- 31:01Speaker 1: it always just says spells out like so and so
- 31:04Speaker 1: laughed at so and so emphasized.
- 31:07Speaker 2: It's so frustrating. And Apple is the one who's doing this.
- 31:10Speaker 1: Because now they want to have this is a gang.
- 31:13Speaker 2: It's the gang mentality. They know they got us. Look
- 31:16Speaker 2: I stabbed the person to get in on the Apple gang.
- 31:18Speaker 1: Who did it?
- 31:19Speaker 2: I shift him good. That's what Steve Chopps told me
- 31:22Speaker 2: I had to do if I wanted them blue texts.
- 31:25Speaker 2: And I said anything, absolutely rab right. So he tells
- 31:35Speaker 2: the whole table that was the State Department, and they
- 31:38Speaker 2: are checking in on me. I have a computer chip
- 31:41Speaker 2: in my neck so they always know where I am,
- 31:44Speaker 2: At which point his business partner called Williamson says, I
- 31:47Speaker 2: have a chip in my neck as well, and then
- 31:49Speaker 2: points to some random person in the restaurant and says,
- 31:52Speaker 2: see that guy right there, he's the Secret Service. So
- 31:56Speaker 2: I googled like chips in the neck to see if
- 31:58Speaker 2: chips in the neck are a thing, And there's like
- 32:01Speaker 2: maybe one hundred thousand people who have like a digital
- 32:03Speaker 2: chip like installed them. They do it in like dolphins,
- 32:06Speaker 2: and they do it in like other animals and farm
- 32:08Speaker 2: livestock to keep track of them. But some people have
- 32:11Speaker 2: like I have to to try to put a chip
- 32:12Speaker 2: in their body and see like what that's about. I'm okay,
- 32:16Speaker 2: you don't want to chip? Nope, that's the new thing. Nope,
- 32:19Speaker 2: like we want full black mirror.
- 32:20Speaker 1: Yes, I don't want to chip. I don't want to
- 32:22Speaker 1: be found at all time.
- 32:23Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like that's real love. I
- 32:25Speaker 2: feel like if I get married to somebody, we gotta
- 32:27Speaker 2: get chipped, or they gotta get chipped, at least not me.
- 32:32Speaker 2: If you always gonna be where you're at, then I
- 32:34Speaker 2: ain't got to check on your chip. So what's good?
- 32:36Speaker 1: Your iphon might as well be a chip, right.
- 32:38Speaker 2: That's true. You can do find my iPhone. But then
- 32:40Speaker 2: you also can turn that shit off or leave it somewhere,
- 32:42Speaker 2: But you can't turn a chip off. What you gonna
- 32:44Speaker 2: rip that shit out of your neck?
- 32:45Speaker 1: That's true, Okay, don't I don't believe them.
- 32:48Speaker 2: That's true love and commitment.
- 32:49Speaker 1: I do not like the chip life.
- 32:51Speaker 2: Let me put a chip in you. If you're listening
- 32:53Speaker 2: and you want to be my boo, let me put
- 32:55Speaker 2: a chip.
- 32:56Speaker 1: You get that chip.
- 32:58Speaker 2: I don't even like Huban tabs on people like that,
- 33:00Speaker 2: but it would be fun to just see how far
- 33:01Speaker 2: someone would go from my love this one. I don't
- 33:04Speaker 2: got no man oh woman. Anyway, So they say they're
- 33:09Speaker 2: both chipped, and then they point to some random ass
- 33:11Speaker 2: dude in the restaurant and like, see him. He working
- 33:13Speaker 2: for us, And it's like, how do you dispute that?
- 33:16Speaker 2: Are they gonna walk up to that person be like,
- 33:17Speaker 2: are you secret service? They could just say no and
- 33:19Speaker 2: be lying, or this could be another backstage actor. I'm
- 33:23Speaker 2: not exactly sure. We need to put my man's in
- 33:26Speaker 2: the guild though he needs to be in the union
- 33:27Speaker 2: because he's employing us. So eventually the software team contacted
- 33:31Speaker 2: DC Page, a former federal agent who specializes in providing
- 33:34Speaker 2: business intelligence. When Paige emailed a friend who is a
- 33:37Speaker 2: member of the Saudi royal family and asked if Anthony
- 33:40Speaker 2: was really a prince, he got a two word response no,
- 33:43Speaker 2: and then a capital no exclamation point. Why does it
- 33:48Speaker 2: feel like they should have did that in the first place?
- 33:50Speaker 1: Right? Why did they call after the first Aspicia?
- 33:54Speaker 2: Like, when you saw my man's chomping down, Come on
- 34:00Speaker 2: where you saw my man eating the sausage links the
- 34:02Speaker 2: porks and the pork shops. That wasn't like, let's just call.
- 34:06Speaker 2: Let's look, that's one phone. I guess it's probably not
- 34:09Speaker 2: easy to actually call the royal family. But there's also Internet.
- 34:14Speaker 2: We got a whole world wide web. Yeah, so this
- 34:18Speaker 2: this seems silly to me. So Page also went on
- 34:21Speaker 2: Google to research the diplomatic license plate on Anthony's Ferrari.
- 34:27Speaker 2: He said, I got to pop up to buy the
- 34:29Speaker 2: exact same license plate on eBay for seventy nine dollars,
- 34:34Speaker 2: which is in fact exactly where Anthony bought this. Anthony
- 34:37Speaker 2: went on eBay and was like diplomatic plates and then
- 34:42Speaker 2: put them shits on his car.
- 34:44Speaker 1: That's great. I'm glad he never got to put all
- 34:46Speaker 1: by the police though.
- 34:47Speaker 2: Right, gonna happen exactly and Allso I'm surpart saying get
- 34:52Speaker 2: put off by the police because he is variously brown, yes,
- 34:55Speaker 2: and driving a nice car.
- 34:56Speaker 1: These feel like play a nice car.
- 34:58Speaker 2: Maybe he wasn't driving a car. Maybe his backstage actors were. Yeah,
- 35:03Speaker 2: you know, if you don't have a good scam, you
- 35:04Speaker 2: gotta get at least one white man involved if you
- 35:06Speaker 2: are a person of color, to be the face of
- 35:08Speaker 2: the scam while you do the schemes in the back. Yes,
- 35:12Speaker 2: because they looking for us. Yeah, yeah, so you're right,
- 35:15Speaker 2: Like that's a little too obvious. Also, eBay, what the
- 35:18Speaker 2: fuck like, if you're gonna sell diplomatic license plates, can
- 35:20Speaker 2: you like bary them up? You're selling the same exact
- 35:23Speaker 2: plate with the same exact letters and numbers to everybody.
- 35:26Speaker 2: That's not right, that's not that's not how we scam.
- 35:28Speaker 2: I don't like you has some integrity, So ages discussed.
- 35:33Speaker 1: He gets for doing the first search, right, because obviously
- 35:36Speaker 1: he picked Google and just hit the first hit.
- 35:39Speaker 2: The you gotta go down the Oh, yeah, you're right,
- 35:41Speaker 2: you gotta go at least nineteen o's down when you're
- 35:43Speaker 2: doing crime. Yeah, damn it came up on a pop
- 35:47Speaker 2: up page. Right, That's that's lazy, because.
- 35:49Speaker 1: Nobody ever goes past the first page. They always do
- 35:52Speaker 1: it at a different word exactly. Everyone does the sage too.
- 35:56Speaker 1: I'm like, let me type these words.
- 35:58Speaker 2: I'm trying to think the last time I went pay Google?
- 36:01Speaker 1: Right? Never? Never?
- 36:03Speaker 2: Yeah, my man's come on now, Anthony. Also, you've been
- 36:06Speaker 2: in the industry for thirty years. These seem like ricky mistakes.
- 36:10Speaker 2: So AH is discovered. By this point, Anthony had allegedly
- 36:12Speaker 2: built investors out of almost eight million dollars in fraudulent
- 36:15Speaker 2: friends and family pre offerings. What I tell you about
- 36:18Speaker 2: pre reimbursement, I don't do reimbursement. I do preimbursement. Give
- 36:21Speaker 2: me the money up front. So he getting these pre
- 36:25Speaker 2: offers of what promised to be the biggest IPO in history,
- 36:28Speaker 2: the initial public offering of Aramaco, the Saudi oil giant.
- 36:32Speaker 2: So he's over here telling people that he is about
- 36:34Speaker 2: to get the oil popping. And nothing makes an American
- 36:38Speaker 2: rock harder than oil.
- 36:41Speaker 1: The oil's popping.
- 36:43Speaker 2: The popping, I honestly think them down commercials where they
- 36:46Speaker 2: was rubbing that oil off them little birds. People are
- 36:48Speaker 2: horning for those I don't think they got the effect
- 36:54Speaker 2: they wanted to. They were like, oh, you know what
- 36:58Speaker 2: I mean, stop running those ads. Also, how y'all pull
- 37:00Speaker 2: up on the birds at just the right time to
- 37:03Speaker 2: get them all oiled up like that. I feel like
- 37:05Speaker 2: they was putting oil on and birds and they're washing
- 37:07Speaker 2: it off with Don Don. I'm trying to see something.
- 37:10Speaker 2: Tweet me if you work for Don advertisement the scam?
- 37:14Speaker 2: I think they put that oilon and birds.
- 37:15Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're right, if you work with Don right
- 37:17Speaker 1: in a letter, you will be anonymous. Yes, you will
- 37:20Speaker 1: be anonymous. Don't send it from your work email. Do so.
- 37:27Speaker 2: Agents discovered that Anthony was not only impersonating this diplomat,
- 37:30Speaker 2: but also traveling on somebody else's passport.
- 37:34Speaker 1: Mmm, the confidence.
- 37:37Speaker 2: I feel like you have to be a person of
- 37:39Speaker 2: color to do this because they think we all look alike.
- 37:41Speaker 2: But then wait a minute, but.
- 37:43Speaker 1: Also who's passport? Because like, if you're traveling with him,
- 37:47Speaker 1: when you notice that that's not your name, right, prince,
- 37:52Speaker 1: and they'd be like hella, like saying your names at
- 37:54Speaker 1: the airport too.
- 37:55Speaker 2: They say it loud and proud. They put your government thank.
- 37:57Speaker 1: You, Ira, but you know what Oka delta flight.
- 38:03Speaker 2: Exactly, like y'all pressed, come on down. Also, you just
- 38:06Speaker 2: brought up a good point. They say your name of
- 38:08Speaker 2: the airport and who mostly works at TSA people exactly,
- 38:11Speaker 2: so they would have been able to know that wasn't him.
- 38:15Speaker 2: But wait a minute, maybe he was traveling. I just
- 38:17Speaker 2: learned about the rich people airport. Yeah, that were a
- 38:19Speaker 2: mile away and they don't.
- 38:20Speaker 1: Do all that.
- 38:21Speaker 2: That's probably where he was traveling because that's how the
- 38:23Speaker 2: little rappers be getting all of codine and weeds on
- 38:25Speaker 2: the plane. Yep, m So maybe he could get away
- 38:29Speaker 2: with traveling for somebody else's passport for this long. So
- 38:32Speaker 2: they started tracking him on his far flung route from
- 38:34Speaker 2: Dubai to Hong Kong to London and arrested him when
- 38:38Speaker 2: he landed in the JFK airport carrying a sizable amount
- 38:41Speaker 2: of cash. Shaffer was among twenty six of the victims
- 38:44Speaker 2: across the globe who Anthony stole millions of dollars. So
- 38:47Speaker 2: he had millions, but you know what, he was keeping
- 38:50Speaker 2: up a millionaire lifestyle, so that money is probably flowing
- 38:52Speaker 2: out like water. Because I feel like an eight million
- 38:54Speaker 2: I'm gonna.
- 38:55Speaker 1: Sit down the money comes in, the money goes out.
- 38:57Speaker 2: You're right, I feel like I would just be Anthony
- 38:59Speaker 2: at that point. But you know what, this life is
- 39:01Speaker 2: pretty cushy. I get it, Anthony. If I was traveling
- 39:03Speaker 2: like HIGHI Jenner like it might be hard to quit.
- 39:07Speaker 2: So he was sent into more than eighteen years in prison,
- 39:10Speaker 2: which pisses me off because all he did was rob
- 39:12Speaker 2: rich people. And I'm like amberg Geiger, who shot a
- 39:14Speaker 2: black man in his own home, got ten years in prison,
- 39:17Speaker 2: but this this guy gets eighteen.
- 39:19Speaker 1: Right, Robin rich people. They deserve it, which and also
- 39:21Speaker 1: the other people so much. That's Elizabeth Warren's plan. Okay,
- 39:26Speaker 1: he was the first wave of.
- 39:31Speaker 2: Elizabeth Warren is gonna pull a lick on rich people.
- 39:34Speaker 1: Okay, Anthony Moreno, Okay, that's where she learned it from.
- 39:38Speaker 2: Okay, the box Elizabeth Warren doug life. Okay, So a
- 39:45Speaker 2: nineteen ninety one article in the Los Angeles Times called
- 39:48Speaker 2: him the Prince of fraud. In nineteen ninety one, he
- 39:52Speaker 2: was called the Prince of fraud. Mind you, he been
- 39:56Speaker 2: out here frauding up until at least seventeen How are
- 40:02Speaker 2: you the prince of fraud? In ninety one, that would
- 40:06Speaker 2: make him that twenty six years.
- 40:08Speaker 1: Did they have his real name in ninety one?
- 40:10Speaker 2: Obviously his government don't matter because I done gave him
- 40:12Speaker 2: three names. He was like, that's fine, I'll get a
- 40:16Speaker 2: new name. So he was arrested at that time in
- 40:20Speaker 2: ninety one for flaking on ten thousand dollars in bills
- 40:24Speaker 2: from a limousine company and from the Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel.
- 40:28Speaker 1: And that's see, and they let him say it. Another
- 40:30Speaker 1: region also steps saying at the rejoy he knows that
- 40:34Speaker 1: it's easy to scam the region. He must thought they
- 40:36Speaker 1: were classy.
- 40:37Speaker 2: Right, they must have lots of ins and outs and homes.
- 40:40Speaker 2: I've worked at nice hotels and it's not as nice
- 40:42Speaker 2: on the back of the house as you think it is.
- 40:44Speaker 2: Like it's still a shit show like every other business. Also,
- 40:46Speaker 2: I'm like, y'all, I got a picture of my man's up.
- 40:48Speaker 2: I feel like if he scammed out of ten thousand dollars,
- 40:50Speaker 2: every reason, and it should just be in the corner,
- 40:53Speaker 2: like y'all should age him up like a missing child.
- 40:57Speaker 2: This is what we think he looked like. Now we
- 40:59Speaker 2: use the ford.
- 41:00Speaker 1: So let him in.
- 41:02Speaker 2: Like I can't believe y'all let him get you here.
- 41:05Speaker 2: He does.
- 41:06Speaker 1: He still looks very yell.
- 41:08Speaker 2: Look, I didn't know scam car Oh yep, exactly. Scam
- 41:12Speaker 2: could keep you so youthful. Guys do a scam, you know,
- 41:15Speaker 2: keep that. That's my anty agent, that's my moisturized robbery,
- 41:19Speaker 2: wrinkle free. But so the other thing that is always
- 41:22Speaker 2: crazy to me about this is like when I go
- 41:24Speaker 2: to a hotel, they shake my ass down. They want
- 41:26Speaker 2: a credit card, they.
- 41:28Speaker 1: Want a credit card. They want they want to especially
- 41:30Speaker 1: if you're in another country and you like, what's the
- 41:33Speaker 1: past port and.
- 41:34Speaker 2: They're not even It's not just they want a credit card.
- 41:36Speaker 2: They're gonna bill you. They're gonna go ahead and charge
- 41:39Speaker 2: and hold you for at least three hundred dollars to
- 41:41Speaker 2: make sure you got it.
- 41:42Speaker 1: That's how they treat the regular folks.
- 41:45Speaker 2: But you got a ten thousand dollars bill and they
- 41:48Speaker 2: had no way of finding you. Yeah, that's crazy. But
- 41:52Speaker 2: this is what they do for rich people. Like they
- 41:53Speaker 2: think like, oh, they have it, so we're gonna give
- 41:55Speaker 2: it to them. So this was in ninety one. In
- 41:58Speaker 2: his latest scheme, US District Judge imposed a fairly heavy sentence.
- 42:02Speaker 2: Calling his crimes truly remarkable, which sounds to me like praise.
- 42:07Speaker 1: Judge was impressed.
- 42:08Speaker 2: He was like, you know what, I am gonna have
- 42:09Speaker 2: to send you to jail, but shout out to a king,
- 42:14Speaker 2: which I love. So he had a public defender representing him,
- 42:18Speaker 2: which I'm like, bruh, you had eight million dollars and
- 42:21Speaker 2: you don't have enough money to get you a real lawyer.
- 42:23Speaker 2: You got the public defender with a stack of court
- 42:25Speaker 2: cases and he don't know.
- 42:26Speaker 1: Your name because he wouldn't get paid.
- 42:29Speaker 2: True damn. He had a sweaty lawyer and take the case.
- 42:34Speaker 1: I knew I wouldn't see my money.
- 42:36Speaker 2: Big facts because the whole cases about how you don't
- 42:38Speaker 2: pay nobody.
- 42:39Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I just want.
- 42:40Speaker 2: My retainer up front. It's a high profile case. I
- 42:45Speaker 2: would have cochranition out of this case.
- 42:51Speaker 1: Yo.
- 42:51Speaker 2: I'm like, the dog collar don't fit. You must have quit, right.
- 42:54Speaker 1: I sure would have been like, now you saw him
- 42:58Speaker 1: eating the port, you do something right.
- 43:01Speaker 2: I'd be like, you wanted you wanted to be scammed? Yo,
- 43:03Speaker 2: had a relationship, didn't you?
- 43:05Speaker 1: Making up all top of shit? Prince of aud nineteen
- 43:07Speaker 1: ninety one. You know how to google exactly.
- 43:10Speaker 2: Also, this is wild to me because just a public defense,
- 43:15Speaker 2: like you couldn't get nobody at Homie in a suit
- 43:17Speaker 2: from Men's Warehouse defending you when you stole millions of
- 43:20Speaker 2: dollars from very very rich, powerful people.
- 43:22Speaker 1: They could have been like if someone doing you know,
- 43:25Speaker 1: I hope so, I don't know, Like wasn't analyst Keating
- 43:27Speaker 1: doing public defending last season, I don't know?
- 43:30Speaker 2: He would have got off. He had analyst limping up
- 43:32Speaker 2: into the room with that lampy walk, Okay, he would
- 43:36Speaker 2: have got right on off.
- 43:38Speaker 1: So my clients, my client didn't do that you want
- 43:43Speaker 1: to you're trying to do.
- 43:48Speaker 2: I'm leaving.
- 43:49Speaker 1: I'm scared to hear what you Troy.
- 43:54Speaker 2: I'm leaving.
- 43:55Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
- 43:56Speaker 2: I'm pegging up my things and I'm going. The podcast
- 43:58Speaker 2: is over, it's canceled. Don't kill us, Okay, I still
- 44:04Speaker 2: I want to cross, not with you, queen. Don't don't
- 44:06Speaker 2: kill us. We love you so And honestly, if I
- 44:11Speaker 2: Louis was you know, doing the case, he could have
- 44:13Speaker 2: murdered A couple of my hands are on my face.
- 44:21Speaker 2: I can't So the entire blame of this operation is
- 44:26Speaker 2: on me, and I accept that said Anthony at his sentencing,
- 44:30Speaker 2: insisting I am not a monster.
- 44:33Speaker 1: I don't think you're a monster, Anthony. I agree.
- 44:37Speaker 2: I think that you were living the life that you
- 44:39Speaker 2: deserve to live. We all deserve, and you were just
- 44:43Speaker 2: bold enough to do so.
- 44:44Speaker 1: So you know what, free college, free diamond collars for all.
- 44:50Speaker 2: That's bernie slogan.
- 44:51Speaker 1: Right, Yes, that's Bernie. You know it's so hard to
- 44:55Speaker 1: pay Bernie. Together, they both learned from Anthony moreno.
- 45:00Speaker 2: Exactly which I love. Gosh, Anthony, I hope you can
- 45:05Speaker 2: hear us in the clink.
- 45:06Speaker 1: I hope, right, if you could hear us in the clink,
- 45:09Speaker 1: get back on the.
- 45:10Speaker 2: Ground, get back on the groun, because you give us
- 45:14Speaker 2: a look. Okay, he has to be Yes, I'm sure
- 45:19Speaker 2: he's in there still trying to flex his rich persona prints. Yeah,
- 45:23Speaker 2: they're like, so you can't. It's just a prison uniform,
- 45:28Speaker 2: Gucci all over, sir man, y'all need to free my
- 45:33Speaker 2: When is Anthony's appeal day? When do we go to
- 45:35Speaker 2: a pelic court? Because I'm gonna be out in front
- 45:38Speaker 2: with my son trying to free my man.
- 45:40Speaker 1: So he told what he had to do to survive.
- 45:44Speaker 2: Yes, survival men of private jets and diamondic crust of
- 45:47Speaker 2: car callars.
- 45:48Speaker 1: It be something different than everybody shout out.
- 45:51Speaker 2: To a king. We love you, Anthony. And in the
- 45:56Speaker 2: honor of hotel scams, I'm gonna give y'all one more
- 45:58Speaker 2: listener letter because our hearing was a little short, and
- 46:01Speaker 2: I'm like, I'll be mad if these are under an hour.
- 46:04Speaker 2: They be mad at me, y'all. This is free emailing
- 46:08Speaker 2: me and writing me and DM and me really de Yeah,
- 46:11Speaker 2: I feel like I'm starting to be a slave. I
- 46:14Speaker 2: started this in my own relition.
- 46:16Speaker 1: I hate slavery.
- 46:18Speaker 2: That is my favorite gift.
- 46:19Speaker 1: I use it all the time.
- 46:23Speaker 2: It's all right, you're a coin. So disclaimer. I still
- 46:27Speaker 2: work for this company, just in a different capacity. Okay.
- 46:31Speaker 2: So they also have asked that we use the name Clyde. Okay,
- 46:35Speaker 2: so this said, Hi, Hi Lacey, here's the scam. I'm
- 46:39Speaker 2: skipping the nice stuff Clyde, but thank you. I used
- 46:42Speaker 2: to work in a hotel in the front desk as
- 46:43Speaker 2: a supervisor. One of the fun desk incentives was for
- 46:46Speaker 2: every guest we would like enroll in the Royalty program,
- 46:50Speaker 2: we would receive fifty loyalty points to our account. So
- 46:56Speaker 2: if they could get somebody in the loyalty program, they.
- 46:58Speaker 1: Got to kick back. Where it's going.
- 47:04Speaker 2: Alra true scammer. The catch was it had to be
- 47:07Speaker 2: a valid enrollment, a new enrollment, including a street address,
- 47:10Speaker 2: an email, and it had to be consented by the guests.
- 47:13Speaker 2: This is important because I broke all these rules a
- 47:17Speaker 2: gold So I started off by just enrolling people with
- 47:20Speaker 2: no email address. My manager found out and said my
- 47:23Speaker 2: enrollments were flagged for the next month and to be careful.
- 47:27Speaker 2: This made me nervous, so I started enrolling them with
- 47:29Speaker 2: a letter or an added number in the email so
- 47:32Speaker 2: they didn't know they were being enrolled. So when your
- 47:35Speaker 2: manager said be careful, you didn't take that as quick.
- 47:37Speaker 2: It was like like our man's earlier anthony. You were like,
- 47:40Speaker 2: what exactly did I do wrong?
- 47:42Speaker 1: Okay?
- 47:43Speaker 2: Okay, emails, okay, I'll add that. Then I started rolling
- 47:46Speaker 2: guests and changing one or two numbers of their address,
- 47:49Speaker 2: so like seven seven three seven Main became seven seven
- 47:52Speaker 2: three three Main Street. Okay. I got caught by a guest,
- 47:56Speaker 2: but I denied it. I then realized that if I
- 47:59Speaker 2: asked the guest and they said no, but I found
- 48:01Speaker 2: an old account for them, they would accept the improvement.
- 48:05Speaker 2: So if these people said no, you would just go
- 48:07Speaker 2: dig into their business and find an old account, sir.
- 48:11Speaker 2: So he said, I started telling people, oh, it looks
- 48:13Speaker 2: like you had an account previously, but it expired. I
- 48:16Speaker 2: just reactivated with this reservation. So he would just do
- 48:19Speaker 2: this every time and just make a new account and
- 48:21Speaker 2: double time these people. So he said, he averaged an
- 48:24Speaker 2: extra one hundred fifty dollars a month for three years,
- 48:27Speaker 2: and he had enough points to go on a two
- 48:29Speaker 2: week long vacation to the beach with his family in
- 48:32Speaker 2: a resort where the average day was three hundred dollars
- 48:35Speaker 2: a night for free.
- 48:37Speaker 1: Now they didn't have to pay for these. So this
- 48:39Speaker 1: is the part.
- 48:40Speaker 2: He was the number one royalty and this is true.
- 48:45Speaker 1: Who got hurt here? Nobody?
- 48:46Speaker 2: Nobody?
- 48:47Speaker 1: Nobody, Yeah, I mean honestly, may maybe the person who
- 48:51Speaker 1: he was competing against, his number two.
- 48:54Speaker 2: Imagine some honest, hardworking person.
- 48:56Speaker 1: They're number two. They're mad, really slang in these.
- 49:01Speaker 2: Life is not fair and if you want to get
- 49:02Speaker 2: a hit, charge twelve dollars for a drink, right, So
- 49:06Speaker 2: you know what they made it.
- 49:07Speaker 1: They made it a game. So of course people were
- 49:09Speaker 1: going to play it exactly, your honor. My client was
- 49:14Speaker 1: just playing the game.
- 49:16Speaker 2: Antalist comes back to Defenseman, she limps in. It's the
- 49:20Speaker 2: slowest walk down the courtroom ale you've ever seen. Oh,
- 49:24Speaker 2: Viola's walk is just like the like, truly, truly, Like I.
- 49:28Speaker 1: Want to talk about the day that she decided to
- 49:30Speaker 1: give her character that lip right like she was on set,
- 49:33Speaker 1: like I think analyse.
- 49:36Speaker 2: This is an acting choice. Look, I'll just say that
- 49:39Speaker 2: no one has ever personified the tiredness of the black
- 49:44Speaker 2: woman in society.
- 49:46Speaker 1: Antalice keatings she's tired.
- 49:49Speaker 2: She's so oh I love it. Well. I wanted to
- 49:54Speaker 2: mention that one just because we're talking about hotels, and
- 49:56Speaker 2: I think that people think like hotels are organized and
- 49:59Speaker 2: like you're staying at this place. No, it's a ship showback.
- 50:01Speaker 1: There never are. How many times do I ask for
- 50:04Speaker 1: early check in at the Standard and they're always like, oh, well,
- 50:07Speaker 1: you know it's not guaranteed, but you can ask for
- 50:10Speaker 1: You should.
- 50:11Speaker 2: Always get it early check out, late checkout. I've also
- 50:14Speaker 2: learned if you call for lay checkout and they're like,
- 50:16Speaker 2: I'm sorry, we can't offer it today. Just stay in
- 50:18Speaker 2: your room. What they're gonna do, go check me boot,
- 50:23Speaker 2: I'm gonna stay here talking. You know what the lady
- 50:25Speaker 2: gonna do. She can go hello, yeah you're gonna go.
- 50:28Speaker 1: No, yeah, you're right to come there to clean up, like,
- 50:31Speaker 1: oh it's okay. Now they check out by.
- 50:36Speaker 2: Yeah, you just say lead check out to the cleaning people,
- 50:38Speaker 2: because that's literally all it is, is like they're trying
- 50:40Speaker 2: to get the rooms turned it over so they can
- 50:42Speaker 2: get somebody else in. But if you need a lay
- 50:43Speaker 2: check out, and so does everybody else, guess what, just
- 50:46Speaker 2: stay there. What they're gonna do Some people like I
- 50:49Speaker 2: guess maybe charge a fee, but I haven't even seen that.
- 50:51Speaker 2: I've never been charged to fee. If someone said there
- 50:53Speaker 2: was no more laid checkout and I just stayed in
- 50:55Speaker 2: my room, try it. So, guys, time for the last
- 51:00Speaker 2: segment of the show, and then I have to let
- 51:02Speaker 2: Ira go. This has been wonderful. This is our first
- 51:06Speaker 2: time meeting is in this studio, and I feel like,
- 51:08Speaker 2: I know, Yo, this is true.
- 51:10Speaker 1: We're here, good vibes.
- 51:12Speaker 2: So scammer of the week, it's Payless. I just want
- 51:17Speaker 2: to shout out to pay Less. Tell I guess this
- 51:20Speaker 2: is their attempt to come back into relevancy, and I
- 51:23Speaker 2: stand bog more like bo gus, But you know what,
- 51:30Speaker 2: I love it. Payless is a brand known for budget
- 51:33Speaker 2: friendly shoes. That is a nice way to put.
- 51:35Speaker 1: In it, because very nice. It was.
- 51:38Speaker 2: Payless shoes have no grip. You were falling, but shall live?
- 51:44Speaker 1: I did not, but I sure know that we did
- 51:46Speaker 1: not want to be caught with no payless shoes.
- 51:49Speaker 2: No, why pay more?
- 51:50Speaker 1: Yes, when you can pay less dress shes? Though you
- 51:55Speaker 1: always got the dress es?
- 51:56Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean come on Easter Sunday popping. Okay.
- 52:00Speaker 1: So they're no, they're so just organized. By the way
- 52:02Speaker 1: I went in one like three few years ago when
- 52:05Speaker 1: I was living on the East Side, when I was broke,
- 52:08Speaker 1: I was just tried to go up in the one.
- 52:10Speaker 1: I was like, y'all don't even have my size. They're
- 52:11Speaker 1: just organized. There's nobody working in the store.
- 52:14Speaker 2: The shoes sell themselves. Honestly, I don't know if I've
- 52:18Speaker 2: ever had anybody when I've gone into a paylest the
- 52:21Speaker 2: times that I can remember, I don't think anybody ever helped.
- 52:24Speaker 1: Now they're just like, go ahead, you know what.
- 52:27Speaker 2: You know what a Payless is. It's like the back
- 52:29Speaker 2: stock room of any other store. But they were like,
- 52:32Speaker 2: let's just put this ship in the front foot right,
- 52:34Speaker 2: because it's just your shelves of boxes of shoes. And
- 52:38Speaker 2: I remember climbing. They had the ladders in there, but
- 52:40Speaker 2: they put a mirror on it to be like, oh,
- 52:42Speaker 2: this is so you can't look at your foot, but
- 52:44Speaker 2: really so you could climb your bitch ass up and
- 52:46Speaker 2: get the shoes yourself. It's so trifling. So the Payless
- 52:52Speaker 2: store in Los Angeles and the Mall invited influencers to
- 52:56Speaker 2: their grand opening. The store was stocked with Payless shoes
- 53:00Speaker 2: into scams.
- 53:01Speaker 1: Oh I remember this scam.
- 53:03Speaker 2: Yes, the girls were mad on Twitter.
- 53:05Speaker 1: They were very, very mad upset.
- 53:07Speaker 2: So one of the influencers said, I would pay four
- 53:10Speaker 2: hundred or five hundred dollars for these shoes, and she's
- 53:13Speaker 2: holding up a pair of nineteen ninety nine sneakers. Another
- 53:17Speaker 2: shopper calls the Payliss store elegant and sophisticated, because, mind you,
- 53:21Speaker 2: they didn't call the store pay less. They called it Pilezzi,
- 53:26Speaker 2: which nobody thought that sounded a lot like bail right.
- 53:29Speaker 1: Also, like Payliss shoes still look like paylushes I'm sorry.
- 53:33Speaker 1: I'm sure they look fine, but I'm like I would
- 53:35Speaker 1: look at it and be.
- 53:35Speaker 2: Like this, No, that leather it's dull. It's very dull.
- 53:41Speaker 2: Or it's too shiny. Yeah, it's one of the other.
- 53:45Speaker 2: It's definitely. I've never seen a paylost room and been
- 53:47Speaker 2: like that. I'm shocked. Yeah, And I feel like I
- 53:51Speaker 2: could see them out in the wild. Right, this is
- 53:53Speaker 2: fascinating to me.
- 53:54Speaker 1: Didn't google the brand? I don't know. Every time I
- 53:56Speaker 1: see a brand I don't know in the store, I'm good,
- 53:58Speaker 1: I'm like, oh was this. I'm like, who is in
- 54:00Speaker 1: the rock set? Who's in the dress?
- 54:02Speaker 2: Right?
- 54:02Speaker 1: Exactly right? You need to see who wears that kind
- 54:04Speaker 1: of brand, because like you don't want to be like
- 54:06Speaker 1: wearing something and then you're like, I.
- 54:08Speaker 2: Don't know, right, Well, one, I need to know if
- 54:10Speaker 2: the Nazis.
- 54:10Speaker 1: Are in it, right, I need to know if the Nazis.
- 54:13Speaker 2: Step one, is David Duke in this?
- 54:15Speaker 1: Dread need to know if like Lena Johnaman is a
- 54:17Speaker 1: brand ambassador. You just gotta know, you gotta protect you.
- 54:21Speaker 2: Do need to protect yourself. So I guess nobody, But
- 54:24Speaker 2: you know what when someone offers you a coin and
- 54:26Speaker 2: is like, show up to this event. Especially when you're
- 54:28Speaker 2: in an influencer, your whole hustle is just getting coins
- 54:30Speaker 2: off your followers. So I feel like influencers aren't really
- 54:33Speaker 2: caring about what the product is because I mean, look
- 54:36Speaker 2: at flat tummy tea, like that's ship soup. It literally
- 54:39Speaker 2: is a drink that makes you poop. But listen, if
- 54:42Speaker 2: they offer fifty thousand dollars, I'm be sipping on it on.
- 54:45Speaker 1: My inst Listen. You already had Jim on your podcast
- 54:53Speaker 1: sees you saw a flat It's over. It's over. You
- 54:58Speaker 1: got to find you It's over. Although I would love
- 55:03Speaker 1: you shall tell ear Wolf cancel that pot. I show
- 55:05Speaker 1: up all my castle.
- 55:07Speaker 2: I showed bout my shirts in the box in the corner.
- 55:09Speaker 1: Cut the podcast that as.
- 55:14Speaker 2: They literally cut the cord to my microphone as I'm talking.
- 55:17Speaker 2: Somebody just comes in here and start cutting the ship.
- 55:19Speaker 2: Jamila said, we got cancel your ass.
- 55:21Speaker 1: Yeah, a flat tummy tea.
- 55:23Speaker 2: You know I love to curl up with a good
- 55:25Speaker 2: book and a hot cup of flat tummy teas.
- 55:30Speaker 1: My client was a fragile tea.
- 55:32Speaker 2: I'm hiring you to be my analy's keating in the
- 55:34Speaker 2: court of public opinion. Okay, you better show up and
- 55:37Speaker 2: you better limp. I this is what I paid for.
- 55:40Speaker 2: You better have just pop off.
- 55:42Speaker 1: I've been waiting all my life to limp into a courtroom.
- 55:45Speaker 2: You better be freshly drunk off vodka, always on the
- 55:50Speaker 2: verge of big just bar. That's how I like my lawyers. Okay,
- 55:56Speaker 2: you have have a little sex in the chambers with
- 55:58Speaker 2: your sexy black cop man and then come in drunk. God.
- 56:03Speaker 2: Oh I remember those scenes. Remember Viola Davis was having
- 56:05Speaker 2: tex with that man on TV. I had to watch
- 56:07Speaker 2: my hat. Oh he's very fine in person too. I
- 56:10Speaker 2: had to watch my auntie get her box eight. That
- 56:12Speaker 2: was That was challenging, but I appreciated it, Viola. So
- 56:16Speaker 2: back to these influencers. So a shopper gassed and sorry,
- 56:22Speaker 2: a shopper gasped and disbelief when the secret was revealed.
- 56:26Speaker 2: Shut up, are you serious? She says about eighty influencers
- 56:30Speaker 2: who attended this over two nights, were in complete shocked, shocked,
- 56:36Speaker 2: shocked when they realized that these were payless shoes. Mind you,
- 56:39Speaker 2: this is after they've shelled out about three thousand dollars
- 56:42Speaker 2: in purchases. So they invited these influencers paid them to
- 56:46Speaker 2: show up, and then the influencers bought the pay LESSI shoes.
- 56:52Speaker 2: First of all, if I show up and I'm being
- 56:53Speaker 2: paid to be there.
- 56:54Speaker 1: I'm not gonna buy nothing. Where's the free march?
- 56:57Speaker 2: Yeah, you get the free merch. I'm gonna put the
- 56:59Speaker 2: shoe on my foot. If a photo I have now
- 57:01Speaker 2: paid for the shoe. I don't know what this is.
- 57:04Speaker 2: So one shopper spent six hundred and forty dollars on
- 57:07Speaker 2: a pair of boots, which represented a one eight hundred
- 57:12Speaker 2: percent markup from the cost of the actual shoe.
- 57:15Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not inviting me to something to have him
- 57:17Speaker 1: me paid.
- 57:18Speaker 2: Six and forty dollars.
- 57:21Speaker 1: So here's the thing.
- 57:22Speaker 2: I know that there's some shit that like they put
- 57:24Speaker 2: a brand on it and now it's more expensive, but
- 57:25Speaker 2: it's made in the same factory as cheap shit. But
- 57:28Speaker 2: I can tell a cheap shoe from an expensive shoe
- 57:32Speaker 2: to a certain degree. Like I feel like when you
- 57:34Speaker 2: get into the like mid level, Yeah, like a Yeasy
- 57:37Speaker 2: is cheaper than a Balinciaga, but if you're looking at them,
- 57:40Speaker 2: they're both made pretty well. But I feel like a
- 57:44Speaker 2: boot like come on, sis, So pay Less return their
- 57:48Speaker 2: money and let them keep the shoe, So it was
- 57:50Speaker 2: like a little trick. So they made them pay for it,
- 57:52Speaker 2: and then it was like ha ha, look see our
- 57:54Speaker 2: shit is nice, and then gave them their money back,
- 57:56Speaker 2: which is nice. I would have kept the money. Pay Less,
- 57:58Speaker 2: how well are you doing?
- 57:59Speaker 1: Right?
- 58:00Speaker 2: I feel like y'all need them money the money.
- 58:03Speaker 1: But also was this I guess the advertisers that like, oh,
- 58:06Speaker 1: our shoes look so good, you think they're designer? Right? Yeah,
- 58:09Speaker 1: that's really the thing is that, just like you just
- 58:11Speaker 1: scam some people. And then I'd be like, Okay, why
- 58:14Speaker 1: don't y'all open pleasy?
- 58:16Speaker 2: Maybe you should? Yeah, yeah, stop doing Payless and do
- 58:21Speaker 2: Pleasy because I think we like pleasy better.
- 58:22Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 58:23Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think that's the moral of
- 58:24Speaker 2: the story. But Payless was like, no, no, no, no, we're
- 58:26Speaker 2: gonna take this pleasy sign down and put back up
- 58:29Speaker 2: the Payless signe.
- 58:30Speaker 1: Right.
- 58:31Speaker 2: So the campaign plays off the ignormance discrepancy, and it
- 58:35Speaker 2: aimed to remind consumers that there's still a relevant place
- 58:38Speaker 2: to shop for affordable fashion.
- 58:40Speaker 1: Just pay influencers to wear pay Less on Instagram. That
- 58:44Speaker 1: would have been simpler, right, that was somewhere like fly
- 58:48Speaker 1: shoes and then like on someone's Instagram, you know, get
- 58:51Speaker 1: like get like a little get like a little Tyler
- 58:53Speaker 1: Oakley and like some shoes you knows gg you know,
- 59:02Speaker 1: get somebody like something that was real cute, and it's like, oh,
- 59:06Speaker 1: this is for pay last right.
- 59:07Speaker 2: Get the Kardashians in pay and the girls will camp.
- 59:10Speaker 1: Yes.
- 59:11Speaker 2: Also, I mean the Kardashians literally brought Findy back to life.
- 59:14Speaker 2: They gave Fiendy CPR on the table and now people
- 59:17Speaker 2: are wearing the f's.
- 59:17Speaker 1: Again fidy prints on and Nikki.
- 59:22Speaker 2: I want her collection the capsule it's really cute. It's
- 59:26Speaker 2: a little ratchet too. It's like, yes, she was like,
- 59:28Speaker 2: I want something I could wear in a hood and
- 59:29Speaker 2: I can also wear to a nice event. And then
- 59:31Speaker 2: I saw it and I was like, Okay, I could definitely.
- 59:32Speaker 1: Wear the Yes I Love to an Emmy's party.
- 59:41Speaker 2: I don't know if I could wear to get much
- 59:42Speaker 2: capsule fended to a party, all right, I certainly will.
- 59:45Speaker 1: Try wear that plastic dress.
- 59:49Speaker 2: Because y'all love scrolling my Instagram for an old favorite
- 59:52Speaker 2: fire the plastic dress.
- 59:53Speaker 1: Fire Fire, the plastic dress. I want to see the plastic.
- 59:58Speaker 2: It's on there along with that skin a magazine article
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: that y'all found. I told them I did voyage la.
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: Have you heard of that?
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: No? Oh, it's a scam magazine where you they scam
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: you into giving them the information of you and ten
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: friends to say they're gonna write an article about you online,
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: but you write the article yourself, and then they post
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: it online and you act like you was in a magazine,
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: but you was never in a magazine.
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: And I posted this on my Instagram years ago and
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: then people found it.
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: They found it, they were like, damn, sys is still up.
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: I was like, I live in my scams. I'm proud
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: of my scams. So y'all find that plastic dress. And
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: there's a picture of me holding some emmys from some
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: white men's that I took.
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: So okay, so enjoy hold them Gam of Thrones emmys.
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: I'm gonna get my own one day. So guys, that
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: brings us to the end of the podcast. And Ira,
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: where do you want to be found?
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: That's what I asked people conclusion. You can find me
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: in the courtroom defending justice. Uh, you can find me
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: on Twitter at Ira scammed that three letter name.
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: That is a fantastic Twitter name. And your Twitter's so good,
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: it's so entertaining.
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: Thank you. I tried to more entertaining for the girls.
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: You know, for a minute, it was like it was
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. It is very serious. Oh yeah, we still
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: got to talk about politics sometimes because the streets are wild.
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: But you know, just like I just try and tweet
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: stuff that's funny to me now and like wild because
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: I don't need the girls, like in my mentionas being
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: like actually yeah, just like starting fights with me, I'm like,
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want fights anymore exactly. Okay. Also,
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: you're not paying me fighting with abby with no point
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: if I tweet something that you can earnestly reply to
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: like that, I'm doing my job wrong enough, right.
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: Like, but we can have a we can talk for fun.
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't want to please don't come over here,
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: which your nonsense. But you were talking about the circle
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: on Twitter recently.
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: Yes, I love the circle.
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: I finished the circle, so I won't give you any spoilers.
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: We guys, if you want something to watch that, it
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: literally is just like little lab rats in a cage
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: and it's pointless and in your mind will just be
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: free of impending doom.
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: You got to watch the circle.
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: Watch the Circle, and there's some scammers on the circle.
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: And that's why I like the circle too. Yes, yes, yeah,
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: so guys. As always, you can find us at Scam
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: gooddesspod at gmail dot com. Please email us your cons
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: and your frauds. If you haven't heard your con or
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: fraud on the show, it's still gonna happen, guys, I
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: promise you that is not a scam. You can find
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- 1:02:13Speaker 2: Diva Lacy on all platforms and scam got his pod
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