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- 0:00Hello listeners.
- 0:02It's been a little while.
- 0:04Yeah, you may have noticed the feed has been kind of dead at the minute,
- 0:08and that is because my life has been, I think, the busiest it's ever been.
- 0:17I won't reveal everything that's going on because, you know, certain
- 0:21things involve my private life.
- 0:23But life has been hectic and in a lot of ways life has been hard.
- 0:28But I, one of the big things is I've moved into a new home.
- 0:33It's amazing.
- 0:34But moving really was so insanely stressful.
- 0:39People when they say moving is one of the hardest things you have to do in life.
- 0:43It is not, they are not lying.
- 0:46But we are getting settled.
- 0:48I'm now recording in my new office space, so I no longer just like recording
- 0:53in the middle of my living room.
- 0:56I'm absolutely getting it set up, learning how to dead and sound, because you may
- 1:00be able to pick up, there's a little bit of an echo in here, so I'm getting like.
- 1:05Sound deadening patches for the walls, softer furnishing like curtains for
- 1:10it just to help get rid of the echo.
- 1:14But yeah.
- 1:15So I'm back.
- 1:16I wanted to make something just to kick off making again, I already
- 1:21have new guests getting lined up.
- 1:23But for this, just to get me back in the swing, I thought
- 1:26I'd do a listener mail episode.
- 1:29So yeah, let's get into that.
- 1:32I'm starting off now with anonymous messages provided to us.
- 1:38So let's see.
- 1:39Will you do an episode on Sneaker and Sport Fetish?
- 1:44Yes, like I want to explore so many fetishes and I love just
- 1:50hearing people's experiences.
- 1:52The big thing I have with this podcast, that's the big like pain point, is
- 1:56finding people to speak about it.
- 1:59I don't want to just sort of like look into a fetish and just sort of speak on
- 2:06it when I have no experience with it.
- 2:09If it's one of my own fetishes, fine, that's great, but.
- 2:12I would love a guest who could come on and talk about this.
- 2:17I may have one who I think we could do an episode with and be contacting
- 2:22him, but yeah, both sneakers and.
- 2:25Why does sports gear fetishes?
- 2:27I would love to do, and yeah, if you feel you can talk authoritatively
- 2:32on it or just from a point of passion please get in contact.
- 2:36I would love to have people to interview for this subject.
- 2:41And this doesn't just go for this subject.
- 2:43If you have a fetish we have not talked about or you feel we've
- 2:47not fully covered the extent of.
- 2:49Getting contact.
- 2:50I love when people offer up being able to do an interview with these
- 2:54things because again, that is one of the major pain points is like
- 3:00getting interviewees for this show is one of the hardest parts of it.
- 3:05So if people actively get in contact with me and I love that, like, you
- 3:10are not being a bother, please do.
- 3:12It.
- 3:12Makes everything so much easier.
- 3:17Okay, we have the next question.
- 3:20In commercial porn depicting kink such as bound guards, et cetera, what has
- 3:26driven the change in body types for trade in the seventies previous era?
- 3:31Quote, regular guys enjoying kink quote to quote, we mostly want to portray
- 3:38muscled guys in kink situations, quote.
- 3:43Ooh.
- 3:44We have talked on this show before, I think in our gym episode and other ones
- 3:50where we've like done bull play and talked on muscle worship and steroid use.
- 3:56There are multiple factors that always change societal
- 3:59or group dynamics like this.
- 4:01Like there's never one big reason.
- 4:04I would also be remiss if I didn't talk about the psychological
- 4:08effects of the AIDS epidemic on like the sort of gay community.
- 4:14As you can see in the seventies, there's much more sort of natural body types,
- 4:19sort of your average guy body shapes.
- 4:22And then over the eighties into the nineties and two thousands, you basically
- 4:25see really muscular people take over.
- 4:31And a large part of that is because as a psychological reaction to the AIDS
- 4:36epidemic being skinnier or on the skinnier side was often a sign of ill health.
- 4:42Like one of the major symptoms when you're dealing with AIDS or HIV related illnesses
- 4:48and complications is rapid weight loss.
- 4:51So a lot of people put a lot of effort into appearing.
- 4:56What they would think of as healthy, which is bigger, more muscular.
- 5:00And also around this time, like the technology of bodybuilding, AKA steroids
- 5:08and hormonal control mechanisms became widely more known and more developed.
- 5:15And you know, it started in sports and bodybuilding in the
- 5:19eighties and sort of trickled out into the wider, wider society.
- 5:25People have now have more access to essentially chemical assistance, pushing
- 5:31what their bodies are able to look like.
- 5:35Add into this, like Hollywood studio systems will often push their leading
- 5:40men to become insanely big, like unreasonably big and cut and dehydrated.
- 5:48Like Hugh Jackman talking about the process he had to go through for
- 5:51Wolverine, Rine really highlights this and you can also like.
- 5:57Side by side, hu Younger Hugh Jackman from over a decade ago in the X-Men one
- 6:04film versus the last one he appeared in the Deadpool, like the standards his
- 6:10physique now has to live up to is insane.
- 6:13And again, this filters down into porn.
- 6:15We see all these images in our lives of Hollywood leading men with
- 6:20unrealistic bodies that most people, if they don't build their entire lives
- 6:24around, it cannot achieve and maintain.
- 6:27And we want to see that in porn.
- 6:30Porn's this weird thing where there's a chicken and egg off.
- 6:33Does the fantasy come first or does the fantasy get created and
- 6:38shaped by porn that we watch and you know, it's a bit of both.
- 6:43It's a weird cyclical self-feeding cycle.
- 6:48So, yeah, there's these few factors around like society's wider impression of body
- 6:53image and what men should look like.
- 6:55And also, you know, the gay community's ongoing trauma with the
- 7:00AIDS epidemic have really pushed this change towards more muscular bodies.
- 7:06Now, one thing I have observed, especially since the advent of only fads and sort
- 7:10of the domination of amateur porn, is the reintroduction of normal bodies
- 7:17and also like diversified bodies, fat bodies trans bodies, bodies of color.
- 7:24Like you're seeing way more diversity in porn than you ever have before.
- 7:29And that is slowly trickling into like the more glossy studio porn as well.
- 7:34And.
- 7:36I'm really actually glad to see this change in direction and we are not
- 7:39just being hounded by nothing but this unreasonable muscle body type,
- 7:47which don't get me wrong, I enjoy it along with other body types, but
- 7:51you know, diversity and selection and variety is the spice of life.
- 7:58Okay, next question.
- 8:01What is one kink that just simply isn't for you?
- 8:05Not to shame, but you're just not into it?
- 8:09Hmm.
- 8:10One kinks that just not for me.
- 8:12I mean, the one that always comes to mind is scat.
- 8:17I have a very visceral reaction to imageries like that simply because I have
- 8:25a very visceral reaction to excrement.
- 8:29So it's really not for me.
- 8:30It's really not for me.
- 8:32You know, I have plenty of friends who enjoy autumnal tones as we say, and the
- 8:37sort of, I do feel like the sort of.
- 8:41Taboo around discussing it is definitely lessening, but it's not for me and
- 8:46nor do I think it ever will be for me.
- 8:52Yeah, I think, I think that's the big one.
- 8:55I let's see.
- 8:58Oh, this is a long question.
- 9:01How do I tell my boyfriend that I want to do pup play with him?
- 9:05I've only been a pup recently, and that's kind of my first jump into the kink space.
- 9:10We have only played vanilla till now, and I really want to explore that together
- 9:13with him, but it's not something we have talked about yet and I don't know how.
- 9:20So yeah, introducing something new to your partner can be a scary situation,
- 9:25especially if it's not been broached before and it's something new with you.
- 9:29I think the big thing is to approach it from a positive angle.
- 9:37Don't approach it as, oh God, this is something, I know you're gonna hate it.
- 9:42Please don't hate me for this, but can we do this, dah, dah, dah, dah.
- 9:47Approach it as something joyous.
- 9:49You are excited to try something new and you want to go on this journey
- 9:54with your partner, just say, I know this is probably at your wheelhouse,
- 9:58but I think this could be a lot of fun and I really want to try it.
- 10:02And you know, I see all this joy that people get from it, and I
- 10:06think we too could have that joy.
- 10:09That's a really important thing.
- 10:12Now it does depend on like.
- 10:14Your rules of relationship.
- 10:15How monogamous are you?
- 10:17How open are you?
- 10:19Are you like polyamorous?
- 10:21Are you just no strings attached open, but no relationships or, you
- 10:26know, are you fully monogamous?
- 10:27If it's fully monogamous, like, you know, you do have to do things like
- 10:32sexual compromise and be open with your feelings because you have to be the sexual
- 10:38primary sexual partner for one another.
- 10:40The only sexual partner for one another.
- 10:43If relationships are more open, you can say, Hey, if this isn't
- 10:47your thing, this is a right.
- 10:48I would like to explore this with you, but if not, can I explore this
- 10:52with other people is also an option.
- 10:55And again, frame it as a positive thing like you are exploring, you
- 10:58are finding joy and your partner generally wants to find joy with you.
- 11:05I think at the root of this, there's a lot of fear of if people.
- 11:08Come out about kinks they've not previously disclosed or are just now
- 11:12discovering that's gonna be a wedge issue because people change and sometimes two
- 11:22people changing in different directions is what causes a relationship to end.
- 11:26But the thing is, you can't be in a relationship with someone
- 11:32where you can't be yourself.
- 11:35That's, that's the bones of it.
- 11:36And it can be scary confronting that idea that will this be the
- 11:41straw that breaks the camel's back?
- 11:42Will this be the point where we diverge?
- 11:45And I think that's at the root of a lot of people's fear of this,
- 11:49but nine times outta 10, most partners just are happy for you.
- 11:54And this is the primary thing a partner should be happy for you to explore,
- 11:58but either with you or with others, again, depending on your setup.
- 12:03So again, it's kind of at the end of the day, frame it as something positive, but
- 12:08ultimately it's just really a matter of like screwing your courage to the sticking
- 12:14point and having that conversation.
- 12:18There's the only way out is through and the only way to do it is to
- 12:21sit down and have the conversation.
- 12:24And again, you don't have to do it as this big dramatic thing, you
- 12:28can just casually introduce it.
- 12:30Hey, you know, I was seeing like people do puppy play recently and
- 12:34like I'm really curious about it.
- 12:36Would you mind if we did explore that?
- 12:40Yeah.
- 12:41Like there's resources you can look at together.
- 12:44There's nothing sort of beyond just.
- 12:48Being willing to talk about it and framing it positively.
- 12:51I know that's probably doesn't sound that helpful.
- 12:55Like I don't have a pre-prepared script for you, but at the
- 12:59end of the day, you know.
- 13:01If your relationship is good and strong and worth its salt, this will just open
- 13:06up a new avenue of joy for you both.
- 13:08And again, there may be an awkward period where the partner gets used to it.
- 13:11It's new ideas.
- 13:13I speak from experience.
- 13:15My husband was way more vanilla when I met him, and he didn't understand a lot of
- 13:20my kinks, but that didn't mean he didn't want me to explore them or to find out
- 13:25more about them because he was genuinely curious about what brought me joy.
- 13:32Okay.
- 13:34Like I may wanna go back to that when I have my co-hosts back in the wheelhouse.
- 13:38Once we all have time to sort of sit down and do this, 'cause that's
- 13:41a question I wanna get back to.
- 13:44What are the biggest challenges you face doing this podcast?
- 13:47I think I've already said it.
- 13:48It's mostly lining up guests, like lining up guests and keeping
- 13:54up with interesting topics.
- 13:56At some point, this podcast is going to have to end.
- 14:00I know we have this thing where we want our TV shows and
- 14:04favorite sort of shows content.
- 14:08Just entertainment's to go on and on and on.
- 14:10But at some point I think I'm gonna be like, I've covered as much as I can cover.
- 14:16And that's, you know, this podcast will at some point end until then.
- 14:20The big thing that I struggle with is lining up people
- 14:24and coming up with topics.
- 14:25I am always, always really grateful when people come to me with topic ideas.
- 14:31You know, I don't always do them straight away.
- 14:33They go into the sort of.
- 14:35Churning bubbling, like formation pile.
- 14:38Like I've got a big spreadsheet of stuff people have suggested to me, and
- 14:43at some point once I find the right guest for it, we can talk about it.
- 14:48So yeah, knowledgeable guests is a hard one for me.
- 14:53The other thing is just producing it.
- 14:56Like, I love recording, I love the conversations.
- 14:59I do not love editing.
- 15:01It's, it's one of the hardest things.
- 15:04And I am currently debating in my head what direction I want to go with the show.
- 15:11With regards to Patreon.
- 15:14I started the Patreon for this show to help out, pay for small things.
- 15:19And then
- 15:22we had a huge, in my household, we had a huge cutback in money.
- 15:27Like money was extremely tight.
- 15:29Right at the wrong time.
- 15:31So I really started pushing the patron to help sort of basically pay my bills.
- 15:36And it did.
- 15:36And I cannot tell you how grateful I am that people like this show who respect
- 15:44what I do, came forward and paid for it.
- 15:47But now life is getting towards a point where it's a little easier
- 15:51again, and I have to ask myself, do I want to carry on producing?
- 15:56So Patreon and maybe refund that money into paying an editor to
- 16:00edit for me so I can just focus on the fun stuff and nothing else.
- 16:06And you know, a professional editor would make this show sound a lot better
- 16:10and be able to do sound effects and just sort of massively improve the quality.
- 16:15Because let's face it, even though I have gotten better over the years, I
- 16:19don't have great editing skills and I think it shows, yeah, so that's the other
- 16:24one, just the actual editing process.
- 16:28So those are the two things, but like.
- 16:32I also think I wanna talk about what really makes me happy about the show,
- 16:35which is the people I meet and the stories I hear and the depths or
- 16:41understanding the depths of people's psychology brings me so much joy.
- 16:45And people have increasingly come up to me and told me that they
- 16:49listen to the show and they like it.
- 16:51And that still feels fundamentally weird that something I am just.
- 16:56Putting out onto the big, endless void of the internet, like people actually
- 17:00know about and listen to and connect with me in real life is such a weird
- 17:05thing and I am so grateful for it.
- 17:10So onto the next question.
- 17:14Most number of loads you've taken in a day.
- 17:19Oh, I'm trying to remember this one.
- 17:21I think.
- 17:24Three and like, yeah, I know that's not like the big sexy answer
- 17:30because you have certain people talking about taking 10, 20, 74.
- 17:38I think I recently saw someone do like a weekend where they took 93 and sort of
- 17:45the inflationary rate on loads is insane.
- 17:49But yeah, like I think for me that's free.
- 17:51And that was a very, very fun day.
- 17:57I think that was when I was locked.
- 17:59I recently did a week's worth of chastity, which is my record.
- 18:03Like I've not been able to break that.
- 18:06And yeah, I remember going to the sauna while horny.
- 18:10That, that was fun.
- 18:14Oh, similar question is the next one.
- 18:16Most Wanks in one day.
- 18:19Again, that may be disappointing and low for some people.
- 18:22Three again, which is a weird coincidence, but I have a very long refractory period.
- 18:30I suspect it's to do with my testosterone levels, which is,
- 18:34medical thing I've had diagnosed.
- 18:36But yeah, it takes me a very long time to get ready to wink again.
- 18:41And I do think part of that is like my body's natural refractory period.
- 18:48But generally I'm a one wink, kind a day kind of guy.
- 18:51So three was when I was particularly horny,
- 18:57and that's brought the anonymous.
- 18:59Questions to an end.
- 19:02Okay, that's it from the last batch of anonymous listener questions.
- 19:06We do have more in our inbox from the email and the form
- 19:10submission on our website.
- 19:12I also have some recordings sitting in our audio inbox from
- 19:19when we did the sauna episode.
- 19:22So what I'm going to do is the email ones.
- 19:26Reading through them.
- 19:27They are topics which could basically be their own episodes each.
- 19:31So we're gonna leave the email ones.
- 19:33And what I'm gonna do is I'm just gonna send you a collection of all
- 19:37the audio recordings we had back from when we did the sauna episode Now.
- 19:43The sauna episode is one of my favorites, and I was shocked at the sort of
- 19:47strength and body of response it got.
- 19:49A lot of people loved that episode.
- 19:52I didn't realize how many people really wanted sort of the art of cruising in
- 19:56those spaces explained, and it's going to lead to some more down the road.
- 20:00Like I want to do an episode on the mechanics and understanding cruising.
- 20:05So I'm just.
- 20:07That's in formulation, but I also love people.
- 20:10Came in on our audio service that's on our website.
- 20:15I will link to it.
- 20:17And gave audio accounts of their favorite times in saunas and their opinions
- 20:22and some of the things we missed.
- 20:24So what I will do now is play you all of those collected together, one
- 20:29after the other, and then I think we'll leave it there for this episode.
- 20:34I've got a great episode on rigging coming up after a recent encounter.
- 20:38Someone talking about rigging bigger guys, which I think is a
- 20:41very important topic, that there's not a lot of information out there.
- 20:45And of course we've got the hundredth episode coming up that is I'm
- 20:51trying to get something in the works for that 'cause I think a hundred
- 20:54episodes is definitely a milestone.
- 20:57I want to celebrate with this.
- 21:00So I will leave you with the recordings, but until then, listeners play safe.
- 21:14Hello.
- 21:15So, uh, my first experience in a sauna was with a friend of mine and
- 21:22I made the mistake of not wearing my glasses 'cause I thought I'd steam up.
- 21:27I didn't realize that I was in a dry sauna, not a wet sauna.
- 21:30So I already failed step one.
- 21:31And I was walking around a bit like Velma from Scooby-Doo, which, um.
- 21:36There are worse ways to walk around, but there's definitely not better ones anyway.
- 21:40Um, me and my friends were having fun with a guy in the hot tub.
- 21:46Not too much fun.
- 21:47'cause again, being sa uh, sanitary, um, and you know, it's me, him, and a
- 21:54cute American, and I'm suddenly aware that there are seven hands at play.
- 21:59It turns out there is a guy who.
- 22:02Was just sniffing poppers, acting kind of crazy, who had just staled
- 22:05up and put his hand on my balls.
- 22:07I was like, oh, hello.
- 22:08I didn't expect you to be here.
- 22:09So I kind of wafted him off and then I just felt this hand kinda moving
- 22:13around towards the American's.
- 22:15But so I just kinda put my hand in front of it.
- 22:17Then the cheeky bastard tries to take a ring that I have on my
- 22:21finger off, so I'll move my hand.
- 22:23So I just dug my nails into 'em and I giggled.
- 22:26Um, so, uh, moral of the story is consent is key, even if you're a blind bitch.
- 22:32Um, so yeah.
- 22:34Anyway, big fan of the show and, uh, yeah, good podcasting.
- 22:41Hi Craig.
- 22:41This is Frank . My first time at a sauna was at Steelworks in Chicago,
- 22:46where I went to join a rubber fetish party at their top floor.
- 22:51I didn't even intend to go to the sauna, but went there for the rubber party.
- 22:55The party ended up not being.
- 22:58Very nice or hot.
- 22:59So I started to explore, um, the rest of the venue and ended up at the Labyrinth.
- 23:04That was a lot of fun.
- 23:07All kinds of, um, corners and glory halls and rooms and a lot of fun and hot guys.
- 23:14And I really liked the chasing part of it where you pass on one, you turn around,
- 23:20you flirt with them, and then you find the old space to, uh, kiss and frolic and, uh.
- 23:28Full on fucking as well.
- 23:30It was a really fun experience and it was great to end up there by chance,
- 23:36'cause I don't think I would have otherwise went to the sauna right away.
- 23:41And there, I really loved your podcast 'cause it's a great walkthrough on what
- 23:45actually happens at a sauna, how you get in, what is the different area.
- 23:50So for people that have never been to a sauna before, listen to the podcast.
- 23:55It's a great explanation of what you can expect.
- 23:59And then.
- 24:00Go and have fun.
- 24:01I liked it a lot.
- 24:02Bye-bye.
- 24:09I got a, I got a bit of a cautionary kind of message and tale here.
- 24:15I always find the sauna to be like going to the Fay realm or the Fay Wild.
- 24:20You know, you go into the forest alone and you don't know what time you get back.
- 24:26Like no one knows what happens.
- 24:28You just disappear off the face of the earth.
- 24:30In our sauna, we have no idea what time it is.
- 24:33Obviously no one has access to their phones or everything, so.
- 24:37You know, there is, there is no communication, there is no phone.
- 24:39There is only just who you see.
- 24:41And upstairs they design it like a maze and it's dark and rooms
- 24:45close and everything like it's, it's almost full labyrinth style.
- 24:49So you really just can't find people if they decide to separate, which is
- 24:55what happened a couple months ago.
- 24:58We had a group going and a friend that I was going to take home to their
- 25:02home while I went home a bit earlier.
- 25:05And this person had gone upstairs and had disappeared for like a
- 25:09solid hour and a half longer at the time we were meant to go,
- 25:15and like our whole group was looking, no one could find him.
- 25:19And I was like, if anyone finds him, make sure he communicates with me.
- 25:22It's like, I've gotta go soon.
- 25:23Like I can't really wait any longer.
- 25:24Just do all these things.
- 25:27Eventually this person did come up, did exist, but I, I left, like I had
- 25:30left like half an hour before this person realized what was going on.
- 25:34And it's just kind of the vibe that happens anytime you go to the sauna.