Latest / How To Protect The Ocean / Inside Ocean Conservancy's Fight to Make Washing Machine Filters the Law
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- 0:00Right now, in houses all over the world,
- 0:02washing machines are running.
- 0:04Every single cycle releases thousands of plastic fibers too small to see,
- 0:09headed straight into rivers oceans,
- 0:12and eventually back to us. now the fix already exists.
- 0:17And this is a story about whether anyone can actually force that fix into law.
- 0:21A fight that's already been fought once,
- 0:24lost, and is still being fought again.
- 0:28Right now, as we speak, we're gonna be talking about that on today's episode
- 0:31of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 0:32I'm your host, Andrew Lewin. If you're new here and you like this type
- 0:36of information on how you can protect the ocean better,
- 0:39I I highly suggest to follow this podcast on your favorite podcast app.
- 0:45Tell your friends, tell your family members,
- 0:47people who want to know how they can stop plastic fibers from getting into
- 0:52and microfibers from getting into our oceans.
- 0:55Now, these microfibers come
- 0:58Come off synthetic clothing every time it's washed,
- 1:00right? And there's a filter for it to catch those microfibers.
- 1:03Similar in concept to a dryer's lint trap,
- 1:06like how you have to take that out every once in a while,
- 1:08right? All the lint because you don't want to go on.
- 1:10I always worry that's gonna go on catch on fire.
- 1:12And then it can catch most of it before it even leaves your house.
- 1:16Now getting that filter built into washing machines as a standard equipment
- 1:21is the real challenge, just like you would for a lint,
- 1:24The lint catcher.
- 1:25The same way seat belts eventually became standard in cars as well.
- 1:29So right now it's required nowhere in the world in any meaningful enforced way.
- 1:34And if you s if you listen to any of the other podcasts where we talked about this,
- 1:37you know that France tried to implement it,
- 1:39but it hasn't really been implemented.
- 1:41We're gonna talk about the government of California and why
- 1:44the governor actually said no and vetoed the law.
- 1:47Now Ocean Conservancy's campaign,
- 1:49not safe for wash, is built as a deliberate strategy.
- 1:53Around one fact. The technology already works.
- 1:57It's there. It exists. There's multiple different types of filters that you can get.
- 2:01And the campaign's job is turning public opinion into political pressure
- 2:06for one specific ask, requiring the filter on new machines that are built
- 2:12and that you could buy. So you don't have to go out and buy the filter.
- 2:14It's already there.
- 2:15A poll Ocean Conservancy ran in May 2026 of just over a thousand Americans found
- 2:20concern about microplastics up 32% since 2023.
- 2:25Nearly nine in ten people concerned,
- 2:27and 81% in favor of requiring filters on new washing machines.
- 2:32So like
- 2:32This is something that's interesting because we,
- 2:35you know, they're out of the people who follow Ocean Conservancy and
- 2:38who are doing this poll, their concern.
- 2:40So the action of ~ this campaign is act is is getting to the people.
- 2:45The awareness campaign is working.
- 2:46People are understanding that microfibers are bad.
- 2:48People are understanding that we need to do something about it.
- 2:51Now, you can go out right now and you can buy filters for your
- 2:55wa your washing machine and you can install it on.
- 2:58I don't know how difficult I don't have one myself.
- 3:00I don't know how difficult it is to put one on.
- 3:02Right, but you can go out and buy one.
- 3:05So you can do this on your own right now if you want.
- 3:08But the fight to convince like people like this is a prize a real problem
- 3:12has already been won already. We don't have to worry about that.
- 3:14The real obstacle sits somewhere else entirely.
- 3:18The AHAM AHAM ~ is short for the Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers.
- 3:24The trade group representing the companies that actually manufacture washing
- 3:28machines is the real opponent of this story.
- 3:31Their case comes from testing with NSF International,
- 3:35a company that I guess that does test pro test products on two specific products.
- 3:40Now they came out with the result.
- 3:42They're saying, hey, look, there's only this these filters only catch like 25%.
- 3:45They're not actually doing that great a job.
- 3:47Ocean Conservancy says that it catches up to 90% in some cases of these microfiber.
- 3:53That's a that's a real difference here.
- 3:54Now, the the test that they did that the AHAM did with I'm gonna call them Aham.
- 4:00did with ~ NSF International, they did look like two specific products.
- 4:05So one was the Filtral 160,
- 4:08a washing machine microfiber filter with a 20 micron mesh.
- 4:12And the other was a Hayward pool filter canister fitted with pool filter socks,
- 4:17a product built for swimming pools,
- 4:19tested here as a stand-in for a laundry filter.
- 4:22So they're not really testing the variety of filters,
- 4:26they're testing one.
- 4:27actual washing machine microfiber filter and another one which is
- 4:30a pool filter which probably won't work now the results in their own words
- 4:35you know the filters capture about at most 26% of the material and only
- 4:39a portion of that material that they that they caught would actually
- 4:43be microfibers the number represents like the total material caught without
- 4:48confirming how much of it was actually microfibers maybe you think it's less maybe
- 4:52we don't I don't know
- 4:54Now, as I mentioned, Ocean Conservancy's number is 90%.
- 4:56and and has its own little gap in to be in to be all transparent from
- 5:02the research that I found. I don't know where they pulled the 90% from.
- 5:05I don't know if it's a specific study.
- 5:06I could not find it, but I did find a bunch of feather ~ testing,
- 5:09And and so independent testing outside either organization tells a clear story.
- 5:15One independent study found that Lint L-U-V-R,
- 5:19lover, Lint lover, ~ external filter captures
- 5:2287% of fibers on average. Planet Care claims up to 98%.
- 5:28And Guppy's Friends mesh bag claims 79 to 86%.
- 5:33The Corobal reduces shedding by roughly 26 to 31%.
- 5:37I think that goes into the wash as you as you wash your clothes.
- 5:41An independent government review out of Connecticut found existing washing machine
- 5:45filters remove 80 to 89% of microfibers,
- 5:49like overall.
- 5:50So although the neither organization's numbers are like,
- 5:53you know, within that, those range that they talk about,
- 5:57Ocean Conservancy's number of 90%,
- 5:59it sits pretty comfortably inside that range of that independent product testing,
- 6:04especially when they tested a bunch of different products and not pool,
- 6:07~ pool filter, right? so I think that that helps when it when it looks
- 6:12at the legitimacy of that 90%.
- 6:14We know these microfibers will catch microfiber,
- 6:17like the microfiber filters will catch microfibers,
- 6:19right?
- 6:21Now, one part of the appliance industry's case does hold up though.
- 6:24A separate filter effectiveness study avoided using detergent during
- 6:28t ~ testing specifically because of concerns it would cause clogging.
- 6:32In yesterday's show I mentioned that the clogging of it it
- 6:35can these microfibers when they go in water treatment plants,
- 6:38they can often get like kind of caught up with the biosolids.
- 6:41And they were worried about this happening there.
- 6:43Now, I don't know if there's testing that has it with and without ~ detergent,
- 6:48but this is something that is is some
- 6:50that is, I guess, a concern when they look at it.
- 6:53But when you're washing your clothes,
- 6:54you gotta wash it with detergent.
- 6:55So that actually matters in in this respect.
- 6:58So I so I don't really know what the number was off that study,
- 7:01but it did say that there was concern with the detergent clogging
- 7:04up ~ the microfibers within this.
- 7:07But you would think that detergent would just be solvent within the the washer.
- 7:12I don't know. I'm not I I I'm not an engineer in that kind of way,
- 7:15but you know you'd think that's that would be common sense.
- 7:17But we'll see. now
- 7:18There's also a life cycle argument,
- 7:19right? It claims it takes roughly 13 years,
- 7:21longer than a washing machine's working life these days,
- 7:25for a filter to capture as much plastic as it took to manufacture it.
- 7:29And they warn about clogging, flooding risks,
- 7:31and burden on people with disabilities who'd have to maintain these filters.
- 7:35So these are different sort of concerns that go around.
- 7:38I I haven't read up on the filters if they if they address those concerns.
- 7:43but there's obviously some controversy here.
- 7:45There's two different organizations with very different numbers.
- 7:48The Ocean Conservancy kind of seems right with those numbers,
- 7:51but there's also some other things that you have to look out for.
- 7:53Even there was also like a commercial washing machine ~ manufacturer
- 7:59or or business owner who was worried about it like with a coin ~ washing machines.
- 8:05They said they use a different type of ~ of washer where the you can't add a filter,
- 8:09it's a drain.
- 8:10That goes down the bottom. So they wouldn't be able to use it
- 8:13in those commercial ones. But this campaign that the Ocean Conservancy is running,
- 8:17not safe for wash, is for residential and not commercial.
- 8:20That could be addressed at another time,
- 8:22I guess. Now let's talk. So we talk about,
- 8:24you know, Ocean Conservancy wants this bill passed and they want they want
- 8:29to have government make sure that it's legislated that these manufacturers have
- 8:34to put these filters on, these microfilters on,
- 8:36right? So how do we get this passed?
- 8:38Has it been
- 8:39tried?
- 8:40Where is it all coming from? California passed a bill through
- 8:44its state legislature in 2023 And it reached the governor's desk.
- 8:49Now the governor Newsom vetoed it,
- 8:50citing rising costs to consumers,
- 8:53but his actual veto letter never named a number like or a study or source.
- 8:59He simply just asserted that the concern and called for more research first.
- 9:03Now, Ocean Conservancy's own economic analysis put the costs of a built-in filter
- 9:10at about $14 to $20 per machine.
- 9:12And a retrofit filter installed after the fact runs closer to about $100 to $300.
- 9:17A gap that comes down to comparing like the factory installed part against
- 9:21the aftermarket add-on. So if these are legislated to be built
- 9:24as these washing machines are.
- 9:26being built, then you would think it would be the cheaper version.
- 9:29Of course, the consumer would probably take the cost,
- 9:31but it would be interesting to see what would happen.
- 9:34So Newsom's own admission administration had previously endorsed
- 9:37This exact filter approach in California's own statewide microplastic strategy,
- 9:41which makes this veto read as a reversal of the administration's own prior position.
- 9:46It's it's kind of funny, right?
- 9:48Like you see that the California said,
- 9:50yeah, we're gonna put this in our strategy,
- 9:52and then all of a sudden they come in and and they don't put it in.
- 9:55So you wonder if if maybe it's just Governor Newsom just didn't look
- 9:58at this strategy or his advisors didn't tell him to but about this strategy
- 10:02and they forgot,
- 10:03They were coming out of COVID and they're worried about costs for everybody.
- 10:06Who knows what they were worried about?
- 10:08I would imagine it would have taken a while before these microfilters would
- 10:10be put on and assembled and and put together and and approved,
- 10:14but that's where we are ~ with with the government of of of California.
- 10:18Now, as I mentioned yesterday,
- 10:20France became the first country in the world to pass this law and it's
- 10:23and it's still unenforced because the technical rules needed to make
- 10:26the law were never really finished.
- 10:28And the Aham points to both California and France as evidence that
- 10:32the policy doesn't work. The bills both passed in the legislature,
- 10:36people want them. This is not a matter of
- 10:38People don't want them, but it's just a matter of like it's
- 10:41not going through because of specific individuals.
- 10:43So we wonder what's happening.
- 10:44Now, around the US, there are five states that are actually putting bills through
- 10:49or have bills through or have tried to put bills through.
- 10:52So New York and Illinois ~ both have real bills moving right now.
- 10:56New York's comes from Assemblywoman Anna Kills.
- 10:59Kills, I think is how you pronounce it.
- 11:00And Illinois has ~ companion bills in both its house and Senate.
- 11:05~ Oregon
- 11:06Already tried once, a two twenty twenty-five bill died in committee
- 11:10and a renewed push in twenty twenty six doesn't have enough support yet to move it.
- 11:14New Jersey and Pennsylvania both have bills reported as in progress,
- 11:18But those are not necessarily being put through with full confidence.
- 11:22And obviously, California, we already know that the Newsom vetoed it.
- 11:26And then a federal bill called the Fighting Fibers Act is sitting
- 11:30in a Senate committee room right now,
- 11:32waiting on its second attempt after an earlier version died
- 11:35in the previous Congress. So, you know,
- 11:37there's still a lot to go through.
- 11:38I don't know if there's anything environmental that's gonna happen with this federal
- 11:41administration.
- 11:42I assume that there's more in the states that we could like in the in
- 11:46the US states that can happen.
- 11:47Same with provinces. Maybe even in in Canada,
- 11:50I would like to see a bill go through.
- 11:51I don't know if I don't think it's required here in Canada.
- 11:54So it's always good to know. ~ but to be honest,
- 11:56nobody know really knows how this campaign is gonna end.
- 11:58Ocean Conservancy doesn't give up.
- 12:00They are always great at doing that.
- 12:01They are going to fight this and they are going to ensure that all
- 12:05~ concerns are addressed and they can be.
- 12:08properly laid out so that more and more people can take part in this campaign
- 12:13and talk to your local representative,
- 12:15your state, your federal, and your local representative,
- 12:18~ whether you're in the states,
- 12:20whether you're in Canada, wherever you're listening to this,
- 12:22this is like an important part.
- 12:23This can really help reduce ~ microfiber f f microfibers from being released into
- 12:29the water system and of course back into us by up to ninety percent.
- 12:33That's huge. That's a huge, huge thing.
- 12:36So
- 12:37that's the episode for today. if you want to find out more,
- 12:39you can go to oceanconservancy.org slash NSFW
- 12:44or contact your representatives,
- 12:46find out what's moving in your own state.
- 12:48and of course, ~ I think that's that's always fun.
- 12:52And and the same playbook ~ works locally wherever you are,
- 12:56since the exact fight is playing out in other countries too.
- 12:58So it doesn't matter where you are.
- 13:00Now next episode.
- 13:02We are going to talk about who actually pays for all this and
- 13:04the economics behind laws like the California's SP 54 and who foots
- 13:08the bill for cleaning up plastic pollution today.
- 13:11That's on tomorrow's episode. So don't miss out.
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