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Paradise Prep with Deandra Kanu · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with our radio. Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast.
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Speaker 1: Ben is still out he's in Israel with Jess. Can't
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Speaker 1: wait to hear all about that trip when he comes
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Speaker 1: back next week. But for now, we have the first
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Speaker 1: episode um post Bachelor. I mean, this is gonna be
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Speaker 1: like the first episode in a very long time that
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Speaker 1: we have like nothing really um Bachelor break and we don't.
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Speaker 1: We're not breaking down the Bachelor at all, which is
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Speaker 1: wild because you had so many seasons back to back.
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Speaker 1: But that means we make away for this awesome season
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Speaker 1: of Almost Famous where we get to talk um to
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Speaker 1: alum and get to know them better. So today we
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Speaker 1: have DeAndre can you of Bachelor in Paradise on the podcast. Hey, d'andra,
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Speaker 1: thanks so much for being here. I thank you for
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Speaker 1: having me. I'm super excited. So tell us what you've
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Speaker 1: been up to since Um you left the beaches of Paradise.
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Speaker 1: You home a own for a long time down there
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Speaker 1: for being someone who like no offense, didn't have like
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Speaker 1: a serious relationship, you know, but every week there was
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Speaker 1: like something enough to get you by. Absolutely. I think
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Speaker 1: that I I had an interesting time of paradise, and
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Speaker 1: I'm super thankful for my time of paradise because it
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Speaker 1: made me realize that not everyone's going to be for
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Speaker 1: you and to like give people a genuine try and
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Speaker 1: a chance. Um. But since Paradise, I've been testing out
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Speaker 1: dating and you know, trying to focus on what I
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Speaker 1: really want in life and what I look for in
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Speaker 1: men and like how to avoid men that you know,
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Speaker 1: show red flags at the first signs. Um. But yes,
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Speaker 1: since Paradise, I've been dating, I've been working, traveling. I'm
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Speaker 1: actually in l A right now and on Dallas face
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Speaker 1: so this is different for me. But yeah, I've been
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Speaker 1: just trying to enjoy life. So if you return to
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Speaker 1: a quote regular job, yes, so I am still working
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Speaker 1: full time in pharmaceutical sales, but I also do content
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Speaker 1: creation and that's honestly kind of where I'm more so
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Speaker 1: wanting to lean in the future. But yeah, what is
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Speaker 1: it that you want to concentrate on content creation? Content creation?
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Speaker 1: I thought I thought that you just hear up with
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Speaker 1: like a drug name, Like in my head it was
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Speaker 1: like content creation and I'm like, oh my god, what
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Speaker 1: kind of drug is that? Anyway? Okay, how has dating
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Speaker 1: been in um Texas? Do you think that Texas is
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Speaker 1: any different than any other part of the country. Are
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Speaker 1: you do an online app dating? I don't know. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how I feel about Texas. So I'm in
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Speaker 1: Dallas and I feel like it's a very small pool.
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Speaker 1: Like I feel like the dating pool is very small.
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Speaker 1: Everyone knows everyone, so that's been super weird. No, I
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Speaker 1: haven't gotten on any dating apps. I think that I'm
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Speaker 1: judging myself if I get on a dating app. And
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Speaker 1: I don't know IF's because I've been on a dating show,
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Speaker 1: but I'm like, I feel like doing a dating app
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Speaker 1: but just be too much. I don't know. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: You're like, okay, so you're like borderline gen x jen
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Speaker 1: Y and you're maybe maybe the only person I've ever
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Speaker 1: met who has not tried dating app by this age.
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Speaker 1: Really yeah, I think I'm old fashioned when it comes
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Speaker 1: to dating. I want someone to approach me in person,
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Speaker 1: like I mean, we can do a d M as
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Speaker 1: long as it's followed up by a date. But I
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Speaker 1: think that I'm so weird about meeting people online and
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Speaker 1: like starting conversations with people that you have no intention
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Speaker 1: to write off that that was the worst. I had
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Speaker 1: no idea how to start those conversations or to continue them. Really,
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Speaker 1: I'm not I like texting for you know, the convenience sake,
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Speaker 1: but just texting for the sake of conversation. I don't
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Speaker 1: really get it. What's the point. I'm like, we'll call me,
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Speaker 1: let's meet in person, let's set up something, and like
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Speaker 1: everything is like, let's meet in person. About the meeting
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Speaker 1: in person? I don't. I don't even like phone calls.
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Speaker 1: I need FaceTime, okay, I need to see somebody's face
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Speaker 1: and like really bind their energy exactly. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I think personally dating apps aren't for me, but I'm
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Speaker 1: not going to say, like in the future I won't
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Speaker 1: do it. But I think that I'm like an in
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Speaker 1: person person, and I think that the person I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: end up with is just bold enough to come up
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Speaker 1: to me and it's like, hey, I want to take
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Speaker 1: you on a date, or like you're cute. You know,
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Speaker 1: you think the kind of person that you need to
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Speaker 1: end up with has to have a personality trait to
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Speaker 1: do it in real life. I like that that says
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Speaker 1: a lot. Yes, are you are one of ten siblings?
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Speaker 1: How is life. Like, honestly, I love it. I'm so
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Speaker 1: used to it. At this point, I feel like you
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Speaker 1: have natural born friends versus like people who are like
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Speaker 1: one or two siblings. Like I just have so many
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Speaker 1: friends and it's weird, like they're my siblings, but they're
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Speaker 1: also like my best friends. Yeah, there's one for everything.
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Speaker 1: And at one point, like we're all living under the
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Speaker 1: same roof, like we do kind of still to this day,
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Speaker 1: and it's so nice because you're never alone. Ever. What's
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Speaker 1: the age range um from like seven two? I think out, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's like a very wide range. But we're also mixed family,
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Speaker 1: so it's not just like one mom. Okay, ok, it's
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Speaker 1: not my mom popping out all these kids. That's my
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Speaker 1: next question, is your mom did this just boom boom
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Speaker 1: boom boom. No, definitely not. But my mom had five kids,
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Speaker 1: so I still feel like that's a lot. You have
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Speaker 1: one kid right now, had five. I don't understand. I
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Speaker 1: don't even understand two at this point, like I wanted to,
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Speaker 1: but I just don't understand how you're supposed to live
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Speaker 1: with two. My my my husband's cousin. I had lunch
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Speaker 1: here yesterday and she has to like they're like four
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Speaker 1: and I guess they're like five and three, And I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I am so confused. How you get out of the
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Speaker 1: house with all the bags, with all the kids car seats.
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Speaker 1: It's just crazy. I'll learn one day, I'll figure it out. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they say your second child is easier, because I feel
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Speaker 1: like the second child, you're gonna have the cheetos and
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Speaker 1: like the you're just gonna throw them at the kid.
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Speaker 1: You're gonna have one diaper in your pocket. Like that's
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Speaker 1: what everyone says. The second child is like person now
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Speaker 1: when you're like preparing the bags exactly. That's so funny. Okay,
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Speaker 1: besides the guy coming up to you and being bold
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Speaker 1: enough to say hey to you in your life, what
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Speaker 1: are some other qualities that you look for in a man.
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Speaker 1: I think that the first one's emotional maturity. I feel
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Speaker 1: like men like pretend and put on a front. I
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Speaker 1: was actually thinking about this today, like there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of men out here here are like, oh, I'm ready
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Speaker 1: for relationships, I'm grown, I'm this, I'm that, and then
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Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, they actually aren't, like
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Speaker 1: their actions are still of a child. So I think
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Speaker 1: emotional maturity, being able to communicate honestly is like very
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Speaker 1: attractive to me. Being vulnerable, hard working, ambitious, funny, down
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Speaker 1: to earth I like, I think, I want to say,
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Speaker 1: like I like old fashioned men, Like I don't really
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Speaker 1: like the men that are like on TikTok and you know,
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Speaker 1: huge on social media because usually those people like feed
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Speaker 1: in some things that like the quickness of this world.
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Speaker 1: I just think I need some like old fashioned like
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Speaker 1: dates like opening doors, as simple as that is, Like
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Speaker 1: I feel like that doesn't happen regularly anymore. Is there
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Speaker 1: a guy from Bachelor, from the Bachelor franchise that you
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Speaker 1: feel like meets those qualifications if you were to do
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Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise again? I don't know. It's crazy because
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Speaker 1: I didn't really watch Michelle's season, like obviously, like we
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Speaker 1: saw Nate like a Nate was one of the guys
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Speaker 1: that everyone talked about and like Joe, probably because they
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Speaker 1: made it further. But there's no one right now that
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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, Like I have my eye on them necessarily.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure some of them have equalities, but I can't
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Speaker 1: like pinpoint one. I always say I wish Tyler Cameron
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Speaker 1: would come back to the franchise because I feel like
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Speaker 1: I would just love him, but he's far gone. It's
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Speaker 1: too bad. He really would have been a great Bachelor
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Speaker 1: when we did well. Recently, when I was on my
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Speaker 1: like one week maternity leave, Ben didn't interview with him,
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Speaker 1: and I listened to that podcast and I was like,
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Speaker 1: this guy's really got it, and it seems like it
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Speaker 1: seems like what he's gone through over the past couple
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Speaker 1: of years, some guys will get jaded by it, you know,
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Speaker 1: they get conceded and their ego get too big. I
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Speaker 1: actually feel like maybe the opposite has happened to him.
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Speaker 1: He's it's been it's been good for him in a
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Speaker 1: growing process from what I can tell by this interview,
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Speaker 1: And I was just like, this is the Bachelor that
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Speaker 1: we need. I feel like he comes off so humble
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Speaker 1: and like down to earth and cool and like, I
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Speaker 1: don't know, I've seen the Bachelor franchise like changed people.
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Speaker 1: Just like how you're saying, like, well, you think that
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Speaker 1: all the exposure and this and that would have him jaded,
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Speaker 1: But I think that he comes off very like humble,
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Speaker 1: down to earth, cool, swaggy. Yeah, yeah, he's got the
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Speaker 1: swag of the confidence, that's for sure, in addition to
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Speaker 1: being seeming humble. And I really, um, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: that's too bad. We got to convince him somewhere or
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Speaker 1: another to do it, because I do feel like he's
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Speaker 1: like an old fashioned romantic where like you watched him,
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Speaker 1: especially in Hannah season, and people were like, oh, baby babies, noises,
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Speaker 1: and people were like, oh, this guy is just like
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Speaker 1: knows exactly what move to make. I really think that
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Speaker 1: maybe he just is truly like that and he's just
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Speaker 1: one of the rare gym's exactly. Maybe he's just like that,
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Speaker 1: Like I like genuine people who come off genuinely it's
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Speaker 1: so easy and naturals. Now, did you watch Clayton season
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Speaker 1: at all? So? I watched a couple of episodes here
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Speaker 1: and there, so I generally know, and I was after
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Speaker 1: the final rose like I was at the actual finale. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I'm so glad. I went, um, yeah, so I did.
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Speaker 1: I am a little bit toomed into what happened. What
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Speaker 1: are your thoughts? I think? So after being there and
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Speaker 1: watching the finale, I think that I was probably the
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Speaker 1: only person the crowd that was actually happy that he
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Speaker 1: found someone and that ended up with Susie. Yeah, I know,
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Speaker 1: I had a sense of happiness too, and I was
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Speaker 1: a little bit confused by it, but but in general, like, yes,
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Speaker 1: my gut instinct was okay, good, I'm glad something good
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Speaker 1: happened for the two of them. And that's something good
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Speaker 1: happened after watching all of this train wreck. Absolutely, that's
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I feel like people were angered, like,
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Speaker 1: well what about you know, Rachel and Gabby. And I'm like, well,
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Speaker 1: now they're the bachelorettes. Now they get their chance to
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Speaker 1: redeem themselves. I feel like that's even Stepien. We're square.
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Speaker 1: So Susie gets to be happy and they get to
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Speaker 1: be happy in their own way as well. Yes, okay,
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Speaker 1: well what do you think about there being two bachelorettes?
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Speaker 1: How do you how do you feel like this is
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Speaker 1: going to work out? Uh, Mike Flice, I think there's
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Speaker 1: a headline. I think one of our headlines today. Oh
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Speaker 1: yes it is, So we'll just do this headline right now.
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Speaker 1: Mike fly says the Bachelorette won't pit Rachel and Gabby
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Speaker 1: against each other. I'll read the deadline article real quick.
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Speaker 1: The Bachelorette will be making history this summer when it
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Speaker 1: features not one but two women on Rose duty, but
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Speaker 1: executive producer Mike Flies seems to be downplaying any possibility
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Speaker 1: of a pending cat fight between the single ladies. Plays
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Speaker 1: responded to a fan on Twitter who wondered whether Rachel
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Speaker 1: and Gabby would be competing against each other in their
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Speaker 1: quest for love. The tweets said this, I love Gabby
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Speaker 1: and Rachel, but there's no way this doesn't pit these
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Speaker 1: two against one another, and and then continue to say
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Speaker 1: every guy is going to be asked the same question,
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Speaker 1: who do you like more? Who do you love more?
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Speaker 1: Who do you like more? Not? And then Fly said
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Speaker 1: this not true. You'll see uh huh, Okay, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: So given that information, and we all know that Flies
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Speaker 1: tweet some things that aren't accurate all the time, or
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Speaker 1: they're highly opinionated whatnot. But given that, given that sound bites, basically,
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Speaker 1: what do you think is going to be the method
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Speaker 1: that they use with the two of them? And this
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Speaker 1: is something that I've been thinking on because I'm like,
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Speaker 1: how is it possible that you're going to have two women?
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Speaker 1: Are they going to have separate dating pools? Like? Are
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Speaker 1: they going to be bringing in guys? Mid season, you know,
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Speaker 1: kind of like a Tassia and Clear switch up. How
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Speaker 1: they brought more guys when it switched over to Tassia. Okay,
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Speaker 1: are they going to be doing that, like continuously switching
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Speaker 1: in guys to kind of like brought in the dating
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Speaker 1: pool for them. I don't see how they potentially can't
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Speaker 1: be putting against one another because they're making the same guys.
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Speaker 1: Imagine we both like the same person all of a sudden, Like,
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Speaker 1: I don't know how they're going to separate that. You
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Speaker 1: can't you can't influence love in that sense. You can't
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Speaker 1: influence who they like in that sense. I guess if
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Speaker 1: I were to brainstorm here, maybe the first couple of weeks,
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Speaker 1: the guys date them both, and then at a certain
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Speaker 1: point they have to break off into groups. And then
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Speaker 1: you're like, okay, you you're just exclusively dating her, and
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Speaker 1: you're just exclusively dating her, But then how awkward would
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Speaker 1: it be? And very reminiscent of Caitlin and and britt
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Speaker 1: if like one girl had a pool of men way
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Speaker 1: bigger than the other, that would be awkward, That's what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Or I wonder if they kept the guys
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Speaker 1: coming in like, who do you who would you like
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Speaker 1: naturally feel yourself going more towards and then they just
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Speaker 1: naturally have the same amount of guys, Like they just
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Speaker 1: make sure that they pick an even amount of guys
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Speaker 1: who would feel like they would naturally go in, and
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Speaker 1: then when they go in, then decide. I feel like
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Speaker 1: it's already gonna be split fifty fifty. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how they're going to do it, but
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Speaker 1: I'm definitely excited to see. This will probably one of
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Speaker 1: the ones that I'll definitely watch so I can understand
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Speaker 1: how they're gonna make sure that there's enough guys for
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Speaker 1: both of the women. Yeah, my sister keeps saying that
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Speaker 1: she thinks this is gonna be like the rejuvenation of
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Speaker 1: the Bachelor franchise if they needed, because so many people
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Speaker 1: are going to be curious as to how they navigate it,
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Speaker 1: and I think she might be right. Absolutely I agree
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Speaker 1: with that. All Right, Well, I'm getting all confused now
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Speaker 1: because we had a Bachelorette season in the fall, so
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Speaker 1: I'm expecting to go into paradise now, but we're not
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Speaker 1: going into paradise where you're going into another bachelorette's season,
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Speaker 1: But one Bachelor in Paradise does come around. What advice
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Speaker 1: would you give people going on to that season? I
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Speaker 1: would say keep an open mind. That's like the best
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Speaker 1: thing that you can do going into Are you talking
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Speaker 1: about for Paradise, right? Yeah, So for Paradise, keep an
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Speaker 1: open mind because you'll be very surprised. I think that
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Speaker 1: the biggest thing in Paradise is dating people that you
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Speaker 1: wouldn't naturally feel yourself drawn to, like giving people a chance.
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Speaker 1: That's the whole point of Paradise, is putting yourself in
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Speaker 1: an environment where you're not going to go for the
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Speaker 1: person that you normally would instinctively go for. I think
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Speaker 1: that's the beauty of it. Be really open to those relationships,
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Speaker 1: because sometimes there's a relationships that work, like truly work.
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Speaker 1: Who did you do that with? Um? So I found
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Speaker 1: myself just going out like obviously I was getting to
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Speaker 1: know Carl and you know, I was getting to know Chasing,
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Speaker 1: And I don't think that in real life necessarily those
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Speaker 1: are going to be the first people that I would
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Speaker 1: have been drawn to. Like if you've had a room
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Speaker 1: with people and I got to know them and it
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Speaker 1: was great getting to know them and Unfortunately it didn't
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Speaker 1: work out, but I love the experience because it still
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Speaker 1: taught me, you know, keep an open heart, give people
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Speaker 1: a chance, because you just never know. It might just
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Speaker 1: be the one. Like look at Thomas and Becca. Who
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Speaker 1: would have thought? Who would have thought? Who have thought?
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Speaker 1: Who would have thought? That's all I could say about that.
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Speaker 1: That's great, that's that's crazy, But I love it. I
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Speaker 1: love them together and talk about happiness. You know, exactly
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Speaker 1: who did you tell producers that you wanted to see there?
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Speaker 1: What's actually hilarious is I think that Brendan was one
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Speaker 1: of the people I wanted to see there, and I
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Speaker 1: told them repeatedly. I was like, well, brend did Brendan?
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Speaker 1: And I didn't know anything about the man. I just
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Speaker 1: saw like his patron. I was like, oh my gosh,
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Speaker 1: she's so cute. Other than that, I was pretty much open.
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Speaker 1: I was like, well, I think, I said Tyler Cameron.
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Speaker 1: That was like a really just a shot in the dark. Um, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think those are the two people. And then other
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Speaker 1: than that, I was like, I just want to I'm open,
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Speaker 1: like I don't really necessarily have to see anyone, So yeah,
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Speaker 1: those are the two people, and it's just funny everything
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Speaker 1: played out with that that little situation. Yeah, well they're together.
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Speaker 1: They're together now, aren't they? Right? So together? Do you
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Speaker 1: keep in touch with either of them? Or was it
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Speaker 1: really truly that bad of blood? No? I mean I
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Speaker 1: never knew Piper ever personally in real life, and Brendan
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Speaker 1: I talked to you like on the first day and
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Speaker 1: after that. No, So no, I don't happy for them,
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Speaker 1: Like if they're happy and then good, I'm glad it
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Speaker 1: actually worked out long term for them like that again,
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Speaker 1: kind of like a Susie and Clayton situation, like you
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Speaker 1: want to see people and that together their you're gonna
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Speaker 1: be together. What about Marissa and Riley? What happened there?
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Speaker 1: Do you know anything? I mean, as her best friend,
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Speaker 1: Like I was gonna say, like like I don't pretend
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Speaker 1: like you don't like really know anything, because like you
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Speaker 1: may don't want to share, but I'm sure you know
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Speaker 1: the whole damn story, right, that's her best friend. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I definitely saw the relationship, but I just don't think
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Speaker 1: she hasn't really talked about it, so I wouldn't want
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Speaker 1: to like discuss she wasn't talking about it publicly. Yeah, exactly. Okay, alrighty,
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Speaker 1: then well after this, we're going to go into a
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Speaker 1: Bachelor headlines get some of d'andrew's thoughts. But first we've
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Speaker 1: gotta take a break Bachelor headline time. This one just
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Speaker 1: came out like an hour ago. Michelle Young to host
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Speaker 1: Bachelor Happy Hour podcast. Michelle is taking this seat at
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Speaker 1: the podcasting table. According to The Hollywood Reporter, she will
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Speaker 1: be co hosting this with Becca Koufrin. She says she's
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Speaker 1: excited to share her perspective on the franchise and to
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Speaker 1: keep it real for the passionate fans of Bachelor Nation.
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Speaker 1: She can't wait to kick it off with Becca next
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Speaker 1: week and they're going to dive into the twist and
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Speaker 1: turns of the upcoming seasons together. Her first official episode
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Speaker 1: of being the co host will be on March twenty two,
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Speaker 1: which is, uh, well tomorrow Tuesday. Do you think Michelle
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Speaker 1: is gonna do a good job at podcasting. I feel
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Speaker 1: like she is going to do an awesome job because
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Speaker 1: she doesn't really hold back on the opinions, but she
18:03
Speaker 1: like has it. She gives him a very tactful manner.
18:06
Speaker 1: You know it won't be too harsh. I agree with that.
18:09
Speaker 1: I think that she's going to make a great host
18:11
Speaker 1: for the Bachelor podcast. I think that she's really well spoken,
18:14
Speaker 1: she has a person there, so I think it's gonna
18:16
Speaker 1: be perfect. Becca so well spoken, one of those girls
18:20
Speaker 1: from the franchise where I'm like, could I just be
18:22
Speaker 1: as articulate and express what I mean as eloquently as
18:28
Speaker 1: you do? Right, And I'm just here like blah blah blah,
18:32
Speaker 1: like like, um, it's definitely relatable. But I think I
18:37
Speaker 1: have a really great dialogue that is also really well spoken.
18:41
Speaker 1: But Becca has so much personality too, and I love
18:43
Speaker 1: it because I think that would be like a really
18:44
Speaker 1: great pair. Definitely all right. Well. In Clayton's big press
18:50
Speaker 1: tour last week, he said he no longer believes that
18:53
Speaker 1: he was in love with all three finalists. He says,
18:57
Speaker 1: looking back at it all, in those moments, I believe
19:00
Speaker 1: of did I really did believe I was in love
19:02
Speaker 1: with them when I was there on the show? Um,
19:06
Speaker 1: But as I've now taken time to reflect and look back,
19:09
Speaker 1: I believe that I got to the point where I
19:11
Speaker 1: was falling in love with everyone, but then I got
19:13
Speaker 1: to the point where I was only in love with Susie. Now,
19:18
Speaker 1: I only think you can be in love with one person,
19:20
Speaker 1: but you can fall for many, but you can only
19:23
Speaker 1: be in love with one. Uh. Then he continued to say,
19:28
Speaker 1: and that's where I made a mistake. I was confused
19:30
Speaker 1: on the show. I believed what I would believe, that
19:33
Speaker 1: I was in love with multiple women. Since then I
19:35
Speaker 1: realized I don't think I was. I think this was
19:38
Speaker 1: an inevitable realization. Absolutely. I think that it was funny
19:43
Speaker 1: because I think it was Gabby after the final rose
19:46
Speaker 1: that asked Clayton shirt up, like what does love mean
19:49
Speaker 1: to you with either Gabby or Rebecca or Rachel? Sorry? Um,
19:52
Speaker 1: that was like, like what is your definition of love?
19:54
Speaker 1: What does love mean to you? Because love means something
19:56
Speaker 1: to everybody differently. And he was like, well, I think
20:00
Speaker 1: that him telling the women that he's falling in love
20:02
Speaker 1: with him three women. I don't think it's possible to
20:03
Speaker 1: be in actively in love with more than one person
20:07
Speaker 1: at a time. But that's just my opinion. What do
20:09
Speaker 1: you think about that? No? I I also don't I
20:11
Speaker 1: don't think being in I don't think so. And I
20:15
Speaker 1: don't even like the expression falling love versus being in love,
20:18
Speaker 1: which I've said so many times in this podcast, is
20:21
Speaker 1: such a bachelor ism, Like you would never distinguish between
20:25
Speaker 1: the two in real life. I feel like in real
20:27
Speaker 1: life you do. You have like two separate days in
20:31
Speaker 1: which you're like, hey, guess what girl I'm dating, I'm
20:34
Speaker 1: falling in love with you, and then like a month later,
20:37
Speaker 1: you don't say I am in love with you, right?
20:39
Speaker 1: Don't you just say like I love you? Right? I
20:43
Speaker 1: think that you can have love for a person be
20:45
Speaker 1: like this person is amazing, They're great, which is probably
20:47
Speaker 1: how he felt about Gabby and Rachel, like I think
20:49
Speaker 1: these people are amazing, like I could potentially love you.
20:52
Speaker 1: But he was falling in love with Susie, like on
20:55
Speaker 1: a deeper level totally. So I think that he confused
20:58
Speaker 1: that feeling and I'm sure it was like pressure for
21:00
Speaker 1: him to communicate how he felt and he probably didn't
21:02
Speaker 1: know how to articulate at that time without disappointing them.
21:05
Speaker 1: But you can't tell You can't tell a woman that
21:08
Speaker 1: you're falling in love with her and not expect her
21:09
Speaker 1: to be like, oh my gosh, I'm the one. Yeah.
21:14
Speaker 1: Well he learned, and that's like the whole thing that
21:17
Speaker 1: We're really happy for Clayton is that he learned a
21:20
Speaker 1: lot of things through this season. Absolutely, he's never gonna
21:23
Speaker 1: forget it. Another Clayton headline which makes me all cringe,
21:30
Speaker 1: very awkward. Um So, do you remember I don't know
21:33
Speaker 1: if you watched this episode, but a couple of weeks ago,
21:36
Speaker 1: Susie and him are doing something on a day and
21:38
Speaker 1: she said something along the lines of, we're going to
21:41
Speaker 1: find out if Clayton likes to be choked. Do you
21:45
Speaker 1: remember this? Um So, I didn't personally watch that episode,
21:49
Speaker 1: but I've heard about it. Okay, Well, they're kind of
21:53
Speaker 1: playing on this. There's a picture that has gone viral
21:57
Speaker 1: now of Clayton in bed with presumably Susie's hand around
22:03
Speaker 1: his neck, and as everybody is like losing their their
22:08
Speaker 1: marbles over the photo online, Clayton responds in like up
22:14
Speaker 1: and down letters like have lower case, have upper case,
22:16
Speaker 1: as if like he's supposed to be like, oh my god,
22:20
Speaker 1: it says we literally know nothing about this guy dot
22:25
Speaker 1: dot dot. Well, now you do? I think that he
22:30
Speaker 1: played that really well? Okay? He like us to like
22:34
Speaker 1: make a situation that could potentially be like cringe e.
22:39
Speaker 1: The response totally putting the picture out there. I don't know.
22:43
Speaker 1: I don't know. I saw the picture and I thought
22:47
Speaker 1: it was like a leak, like another woman, like someone
22:51
Speaker 1: posted a picture and I didn't realize like it's Susie.
22:55
Speaker 1: Like wait, So I'm not sure if I would have that.
23:00
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the picture now, so that's why I'm
23:01
Speaker 1: like looking down. But I see that. I I cringe
23:05
Speaker 1: an see the humor. At the same time, I've done
23:07
Speaker 1: so many things publicly that are so cringe. I can't
23:11
Speaker 1: even speak on behalf of this. This is no cringe
23:14
Speaker 1: compared to what I've done, So have fun, guys. Uh.
23:18
Speaker 1: Colton Underwood on advice he'd give Bachelor Clayton Eckert, he says,
23:24
Speaker 1: just make sure you have a good therapist. My initial
23:28
Speaker 1: piece of advice, he says, would be to have a
23:30
Speaker 1: good therapist talk invent to them because unfortunately, in the
23:34
Speaker 1: position of being a lead on ABC show, especially like
23:38
Speaker 1: The Bachelor, you can't trust a whole lot of people.
23:42
Speaker 1: He says, I really hope that Clayton has a good
23:44
Speaker 1: support system buy him, especially after the show. Hope he's
23:46
Speaker 1: doing well. I hope all the girls from a season
23:48
Speaker 1: are in a good place because the show can be
23:50
Speaker 1: really a really tough place or some people. I mean,
23:53
Speaker 1: I'd say I think that's probably pretty good advice, absolutely,
23:57
Speaker 1: especially after a season. I'm again, I'm just a reader, right, Like,
24:01
Speaker 1: so many people have felt so angry towards Clayton and
24:05
Speaker 1: like have like given him so much crap and almost
24:08
Speaker 1: steel bad for the man. I'm like, well, yeah, it
24:10
Speaker 1: sucks because he kind of put himself in a situation
24:12
Speaker 1: where he treated certain women a certain way. This is
24:14
Speaker 1: a response that people want to give him, but at
24:16
Speaker 1: the end of the day, they have to realize, like
24:18
Speaker 1: we are humans, Like you have to make mistakes. You
24:20
Speaker 1: just happen to make ours on national television versus someone
24:23
Speaker 1: who does this in real life and no one ever
24:24
Speaker 1: knows about it. I love reminding people of that. It's like, you, guys, please,
24:28
Speaker 1: if you're on TV dating five plus women, what don't
24:35
Speaker 1: tell me you wouldn't mess up a many times? Why
24:39
Speaker 1: I can't even remember three people's names, so imagine having
24:41
Speaker 1: to remember thirty people's names. Oh, oh my god, it's
24:45
Speaker 1: so embarrassing. I still forget some of my of Jared's
24:49
Speaker 1: cousins names, Like I'll be at a family union. I'll
24:52
Speaker 1: be like Jared, what's that cousin's name again? I know
24:56
Speaker 1: I've met them five times already, but I don't remember.
25:00
Speaker 1: I'd be the worst bachelor at this headline is so interesting.
25:05
Speaker 1: Jason tart I quit his job after Caitlin Bristo talked
25:09
Speaker 1: about their sex life. Okay, this is juicy stuff, he says.
25:15
Speaker 1: On a podcast, Caitlin talked about their first hook up,
25:18
Speaker 1: which in which they were fully clothed. He goes, Caitlin
25:21
Speaker 1: made a funny confession on one of our podcasts about
25:24
Speaker 1: the first time we hooked up in which we were
25:26
Speaker 1: fully It was a fully closed, intimate moment. He's told
25:30
Speaker 1: page six this. So he said that that reveal put
25:36
Speaker 1: him in the position where he had to restart his
25:40
Speaker 1: entire career outside the bank, or he had to restart
25:46
Speaker 1: his brand within the bank. This is what his boss
25:50
Speaker 1: said to him. No more social media, no more podcast,
25:54
Speaker 1: and no more side hustling. Nothing. And so as a
25:58
Speaker 1: result of that, like ultimatum um, he decided to quit
26:02
Speaker 1: his job. I mean, yeah, if I were in Jason's
26:07
Speaker 1: case situation, if I was in Jason's position there, I
26:10
Speaker 1: would also quit my job because I mean being a
26:15
Speaker 1: Bachelor's star, and I mean like he was with when
26:19
Speaker 1: once he was with Caitlin, especially like he had so
26:23
Speaker 1: many opportunities at his fingertips. Of course he's not with
26:25
Speaker 1: Caitlin because of that, but just like you know, it
26:28
Speaker 1: upped his star and his um what is it like
26:33
Speaker 1: his cloud, right, so he was probably getting more money
26:37
Speaker 1: offered from all these outside sources, and he was even
26:40
Speaker 1: getting at his job. I mean, I'm just assuming here.
26:43
Speaker 1: I just think it's crazy though, because like being in
26:45
Speaker 1: a corporate position, whenever you're on the Bachelor, like related
26:47
Speaker 1: to any reality television show, I feel like there comes
26:51
Speaker 1: a time where it's like you have to choose between
26:53
Speaker 1: you know, being a part of the show, being a
26:55
Speaker 1: part of the people of the showing on things, being
26:57
Speaker 1: a real person, and your job. And like even I
27:00
Speaker 1: still experience that being in the corporate world. Still, it's
27:02
Speaker 1: like having like doing podcasts and like talking about personal things.
27:05
Speaker 1: I'll like hear coworkers talking about them, like it's hard
27:08
Speaker 1: to separate and at some certain point, like you have
27:10
Speaker 1: to leave if they're giving you an ultimatum. I don't
27:12
Speaker 1: think it's fair to be like, hey, be a person
27:14
Speaker 1: or pick the bank and told him so, I don't
27:17
Speaker 1: think that's fair, but hey, it wasn't for him, then
27:20
Speaker 1: yeah it's not. It's not necessarily fair. I guess I
27:23
Speaker 1: understand where the boss was coming from. I think it
27:26
Speaker 1: seems harsh the way that he put it. It's kind
27:30
Speaker 1: of like, I mean, you might know with Riley, right,
27:34
Speaker 1: if he's a lawyer, and sometimes if like you see
27:38
Speaker 1: your lawyer's personal life play out on TV, you see
27:41
Speaker 1: your lawyer sucking whip cream off of his girlfriend's toes,
27:46
Speaker 1: it is hard to take him seriously in the courtroom,
27:48
Speaker 1: I would say, or some people that take him seriously.
27:52
Speaker 1: This is so interesting though, because it's like the same
27:54
Speaker 1: people who work at a bank or like working corporate
27:57
Speaker 1: offices once that five o'clock hits and they go home,
28:00
Speaker 1: are completely different people. And like, yeah, it's not on
28:02
Speaker 1: national television, but it's like it's the same people you
28:03
Speaker 1: might see in the clubs are the same people that
28:05
Speaker 1: might have these alternate because we're all human that it's
28:08
Speaker 1: so true. It's like, Okay, are you not allowed to
28:10
Speaker 1: go to a bar? Right? Are you not allowed to
28:13
Speaker 1: make out with somebody in a bar and be seen
28:17
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any It makes sense to me, but
28:19
Speaker 1: it doesn't because at the same time, when it comes
28:21
Speaker 1: time to be professional, as long as you can be
28:22
Speaker 1: professional do your job, as long as it's not so
28:26
Speaker 1: crazy like you're doing illegal things and like harmful things,
28:30
Speaker 1: it just doesn't really make sense that you have to
28:33
Speaker 1: like completely shield the rest of your life. And I
28:36
Speaker 1: enjoy life to be professional. Stone Like, look at Kelly
28:38
Speaker 1: flant again. I love thee I would trust her to
28:41
Speaker 1: be my lawyer, and I see exactly and I see
28:46
Speaker 1: her live her life as a normal person, obviously on
28:48
Speaker 1: social media, and I would still trust her because when
28:50
Speaker 1: it comes time to do her job, she's going to
28:52
Speaker 1: do her job and she's going to do it really well.
28:54
Speaker 1: That is the best example ever. Thank you DeAndre. That
28:57
Speaker 1: was That's amazing. I would love Kelly fan In to
29:00
Speaker 1: be my lawyer. She's a boadass. Yes, alright. Next headline
29:14
Speaker 1: is not really headlining, but if their information, um, it's
29:17
Speaker 1: like a fun tidbits. So this is everything you need
29:20
Speaker 1: to know about New Bachelor at Gabby and everything you
29:23
Speaker 1: need to know about Rachel. It's not everything we need
29:25
Speaker 1: to know, but that's the headline from people Okay. First off,
29:29
Speaker 1: Gabby bullet point number one was an NFL cheerleader. She's
29:34
Speaker 1: actually an Illinois native, but she considers Denver her home
29:39
Speaker 1: after moving there when you know, moving there permanently after
29:43
Speaker 1: graduating from the University of Colorado Colorado Springs. She's professionally
29:49
Speaker 1: cheered for the broncos Um. Gabby works as a nurse.
29:54
Speaker 1: She's an ic you nurse, and she's a history making
29:57
Speaker 1: when they said because she was honored for her work
29:59
Speaker 1: as a regis their nurse during the COVID nineteen pandemic
30:03
Speaker 1: and became the first woman to receive the Pop Warner
30:07
Speaker 1: Humanitarian Award in I don't know about that award, but
30:13
Speaker 1: it sounds like she's also a badass. Right, Let's say
30:19
Speaker 1: this is an interesting tidbit and now and now that
30:23
Speaker 1: I read this headline last night, I was like, wait
30:25
Speaker 1: a second, is this Gabby did he? This is going
30:30
Speaker 1: to rock Batchelor nations world if they're not already aware
30:32
Speaker 1: of it. She dated dated quote quote Blake and Dean
30:39
Speaker 1: Dean Ungler Black Horseman. But the thing is he didn't
30:42
Speaker 1: really date Blake. She said that like she like she goes,
30:45
Speaker 1: there were no there was no actual dates. There were
30:49
Speaker 1: no drinks paid for, no dinner paid for. He's definitely
30:53
Speaker 1: friends with the friends. We spent time together, but no
30:56
Speaker 1: official dating, no exclusivity. However, on the other side of this, Dean,
31:04
Speaker 1: she dated dated over ten years ago, was one of
31:08
Speaker 1: her first loves. Said, it was so long ago. It's
31:12
Speaker 1: a distant past from my experience on The Bachelor. But
31:16
Speaker 1: now then I started thinking about it when Dean and
31:20
Speaker 1: I would hang out all the time before we had
31:23
Speaker 1: our respective significant others, and I feel like I remembered
31:28
Speaker 1: him talking about a Gabby. Now. May be starting rumors now,
31:31
Speaker 1: but I feel like this was like a girl that
31:34
Speaker 1: he had mentioned from his past a lot. You know
31:37
Speaker 1: what's craziest. I feel like Chris Jenner works hard, but
31:40
Speaker 1: the Bachelor franchise works harder. Seriously, We're up there absolutely
31:46
Speaker 1: because finding Gabby, who dated Dean, I know, over ten
31:50
Speaker 1: years ago, and then honestly, that's it's it's crazy. But
31:55
Speaker 1: it's like with the whole you know Blake situation, it's like, well,
31:59
Speaker 1: because you're everyone stated Blake, but just because you're seeing
32:06
Speaker 1: with someone doesn't mean that you're dating. Right. Maybe they
32:08
Speaker 1: went hung out, he didn't buy her drinks, It buy
32:11
Speaker 1: her food. That's probably why they're not dating. Um, She's like,
32:15
Speaker 1: that's I don't know. She's like, we had a moment
32:18
Speaker 1: not at Stagecoach, but Coachella, and that's a whole other thing.
32:23
Speaker 1: That was a joke. Okay, now everything you need to
32:28
Speaker 1: know about Rachel Now, I want this tidbit to be
32:30
Speaker 1: um clarified a little bit. Says she's a flight instructor
32:33
Speaker 1: and a commercial pilot. But I thought that she was
32:36
Speaker 1: in training. I thought that, like on her bio said
32:40
Speaker 1: that she was in training. So we're gonna have to
32:41
Speaker 1: find out about that. She's originally from Chicago, um, although
32:46
Speaker 1: Florida is where she calls home now. Um, but she
32:51
Speaker 1: still roots for like all the Chicago teams. Then, her
32:55
Speaker 1: all time favorite snack is a flaming hot cheetos. I
33:00
Speaker 1: love super interesting fact that is also Dean's favorite food.
33:05
Speaker 1: So I mean, look at Dean popping up so much
33:08
Speaker 1: with all these ladies. Literally, Rachel is a huge Harry
33:13
Speaker 1: Potter fan, and she was also a cheerleader, although she
33:16
Speaker 1: didn't cheer professionally, she um cheered for Ohio University, where
33:20
Speaker 1: she attended school. All right, last headline Bachelor's Susie Evans
33:26
Speaker 1: shares how she deals with hateful social media comments. She says,
33:32
Speaker 1: picture this. I get a notification that someone tagged me
33:35
Speaker 1: in a hateful comment. I go to their page to
33:38
Speaker 1: block and see follow back. Uh yeah, you don't get
33:42
Speaker 1: to both following me and harass me, she says. I
33:47
Speaker 1: think that that is so funny. What is with people?
33:51
Speaker 1: That's always what it is? Like you're you're never getting
33:54
Speaker 1: the hate comments from somebody who doesn't follow you. What's
33:58
Speaker 1: crazy is I feel like it's almost like they just
33:59
Speaker 1: want your attention. So like whenever someone sends a hate
34:02
Speaker 1: message and this is like even happens to me previously,
34:04
Speaker 1: once I respond, it's, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry,
34:07
Speaker 1: Like I never meant it that way. Like it's almost
34:09
Speaker 1: like a cry for attention, because who goes out of
34:11
Speaker 1: their way to harass when they don't even know? Yeah
34:13
Speaker 1: do you know me? You follow me? You don't even know? Right?
34:17
Speaker 1: Fifty percent at the time, the person will either delete
34:19
Speaker 1: the comment or they'll say something like that. Right, In
34:23
Speaker 1: a sense, it doesn't make any sense. And we live
34:25
Speaker 1: in a world where we're so desensitized by social media
34:28
Speaker 1: that we forget that we're real people. If you would
34:30
Speaker 1: never come up to me in a bar and say
34:31
Speaker 1: that's my face, then don't comment it online at all. Yeah.
34:35
Speaker 1: And it's always the people that it's like you go
34:38
Speaker 1: to their profile and they see in the bio it's
34:40
Speaker 1: like mama lover in a Bible verse literally lover her
34:49
Speaker 1: mama and then a Bible verse and that's exactly it.
34:51
Speaker 1: I'm like, so, what's going on here? Like what Bible
34:53
Speaker 1: are you reading with honey? I don't know. All right, Dandre,
34:58
Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure having you here, so grateful that
35:01
Speaker 1: we got to catch up with you, and we wish
35:03
Speaker 1: you all the best in finding love on screen. Off right,
35:09
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys having me. Thank you. All right,
35:12
Speaker 1: this is how we sign off. Ben would be mad
35:14
Speaker 1: at me if I didn't sign off like this, even
35:16
Speaker 1: though it's weird. Were there's just two of us and
35:19
Speaker 1: it's not been on the other line. Okay, ready until
35:22
Speaker 1: next time. I've been Ashley, I've been Deandra. Should we
35:27
Speaker 1: stop this? Guys? Bye? I love it. Well, thanks, It's
35:33
Speaker 1: very strange. Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous
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