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Coppa Italia Recap & Europa League Final Preview - Ep. 226 Ft. Las Vegas Atalanta · The Calcio Guys

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  For one team, chapter is potentially closing on a good note. For another
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  one, there's a chance for not revenge, but at least redemption. That
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  was story of the Colpi Italia today Uventus one nothing over Atalanta in Rome and
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  joined by our Talentino friend Dan from Atalanta Las Vegas, but not in Las
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  Vegas. Today in New York, I was going down, Well, you
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  know, another day, another Cup final, lay right, it doesn't even
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  matter. The one time that we're actually considered a favorite by the oddsmakers.
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  We do everything that we're not supposed to do and there goes another cup.
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  That's so that's third, third, third final unfortunately the last what five years
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  for Atlanta. So not not looking too good. But you're on the couch
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  of guys joined Baty, Jiano and Johnny. I forgot to mention that from
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  the top. So a lo'll talk about with Atlanta obviously with this cold tyle,
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  the final Uropa League final next week, chance for Champions Leage qualification,
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  a game that's happening after the rest of the city I finishes. It's it's
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  all over the place for Atalanta this season. But I mean we'll get right
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  off the bat with the game today. Obviously, Vovic scored fourth minute and
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  then scored again later in the second half. I forget exactly what minute it
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  was, but was ruled off side. So the game finishes one nothing.
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  What did you make of the game? Well, kind of, like I
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  said, Nick, if there's one thing that you know that you're not supposed
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  to do against an leg Yuva team is get scored on early, right,
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  you know, and then you have to deal with that wall of terror.
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  And it's more than just if if it wasn't Y'vea and if it wasn't beating
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  us in a play tell your final again, I would be pretty impressed with
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  the way that that went. But yeah, you just don't do that.
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  You don't make those mistakes, how are you going to get chances? I
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  mean it was quite impressive, actually, it was impressive from Uva, and
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  uh you know, we ended up in a situation where we did miss Kamaka
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  and uh yeah, we tried to do the same old thing that at Lanta
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  does all the time, cute little combinations at the edge of the box that
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  might work when there's maybe four or five people in the box, but not
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  when there's eight. You've a two good Bremor events. BA is a tough
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  on the counter. We had some chances, but you know what, the
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  honest to gonna truth is, we got more than our fair share chances.
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  Even Moresco was trying to help us out, I think, to be honest
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  a little bit, usually that seems to go against us. But yeah,
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  a couple of posts even of course there was a Manethi post as well,
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  but it just wasn't us today. We didn't do anything right and you've did
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  everything correct. Yeah, staying in a one off type of game, you
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  know, it just it that's yeah, it's like you work so hard to
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  get to where you're supposed to be and then you just need to keep it
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  up and keep it consistent, and then you try to reinvent the wheel in
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  the final. It's that's what kind of of costing you. But like so
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  like elaborate that further because you know, but you're you know, a lifelong
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  at Lantapan, you know, like to somebody who might not be so well
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  versu with the team, right, like what was so like off putting for
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  them today? Like what did they do that just basically ruined any of their
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  chances? It's like you touched upon it a bit by saying a little bit
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  over complicated in the box, but like I feel like as if there was
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  a bit more to it too. Yeah, I think I think situationally right,
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  right, it doesn't help when you have of you know, a team
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  that you know can can execute that plan that you've had to go one and
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  I mean you'vea came out like game game break again, you know, gamebuster
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  that first five minutes, even the first three minutes prior to the goal.
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  There's some running I haven't seen in some of UVA pressing in a while,
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  right, Like that was quite impressive. I was like, this is going
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  to be a game. And then you know, Isaac Kian didn't have a
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  great game of love, which was a handful for him. But in that
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  first goal, Jim City just forgot to step up and so you know Lavitch
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  would have been off side and in that case. But I think the big
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  thing and if I'm if I'm talking tactically right this year, something interesting has
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  happened and it's what I like to call the redemption of Mario Pasolich as a
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  central midfielder. Right in the past few years, any time we've he's had
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  to deputize as a central midfielder. He's given up that he's been not,
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  you know, not great. This year he's actually been fantastic and allowed ten
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  Cook Miners to push up a little bit further and that more that cork Dista
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  type role, which is not really Towns. You know, he's known for
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  more known for being kind of like a Regie type player. But once you
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  start seeing this pack box in this low block that you've has, you see
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  that all of a sudden, you know, we're crossing the ball. We're
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  trying to we're getting it out wide because that's the only place where there's room.
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  That you've is allowing us to have room. And you have ten Cook
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  minor in the box with his back towards the goal coming for a ball,
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  maybe sweeping around trying to get a shot going through four guys, always blocked
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  by bradm Er, the same thing with Likman, and you have Mariopostolich in
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  the back trying to pick out passes. I mean, he can be pretty
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  decent, but you got to switch those rolls up. You know. Mariopostolich
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  is an excellent header of the ball. He's in the box. Sometimes he
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  makes these runs, So I think Gasprini got that wrong. I think the
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  change was a little bit too late. But yeah, and Skamacha not having
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  a point of reference that was a little bit to Scamacha has been on fire,
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  right and he gets a silly yellow card too. And let's not even
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  talk about how dumb it is that people, because you know, on the
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  other side it was what's his face to Looktlli that missed the final for accumulation
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  of yellow cards. It seems really really odd that that would happen in a
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  final, but it was trying the same thing over and over again. We
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  saw on the second half when Albila Altoure came in a little bit better,
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  and then when Passelich came off and Moranchuk came on and you saw ten cop
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  miners kind of move into that more register role where he could kind of spray
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  the ball with his talent. He does that. We saw a few more
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  chances, but ultimately it fell to Adam will Alokment to try and create something
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  out of nothing. It just wasn't there for us today. Dictilaria was a
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  ghost in the first half, just no space. There was no space for
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  us to maneuver. Were the old at the Lanta. Actually, I think
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  might have done a little bit better in this situation. Guys like Gomez and
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  illegitiate, even Sabata can do really well. But we need space. Now
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  we have pace, and so we were on the front foot. We of
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  course all the possession and uh, you've even making some mistakes. There were
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  eight guys behind the ball after a turnover to be able to make sure that
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  it was taken care of. So I think we were really up against it
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  once that first goal went in, and I, like I said you it
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  was always a constant threat on the counter and just solid in the back we
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  had trying to do the same thing. We had no answer for it,
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  to be honest with you, that's what I said. I think you you
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  kind of saw it. I mean, you know, I don't know if
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  you you know, if you want to say at want you know you've won
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  it and not to want to you know, you know, putting not to
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  lose. I don't know what it was, but it just seemed like two
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  different, two different engines going at the same time, like you know,
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  you're playing the same game, but it was like two different, you know,
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  mindsets. I don't know what it is. But you know, for
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  you Dan, you know you've seen that to Wanta like next to the top
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  of the show in three finals, copy Talia finals in about three years and
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  in about five years. Sorry, what is it going to take for Gus?
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  But they need to find I get over the hump with this Atlanta side.
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  This is a manager that you know, we don't see this in Itdaly
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  very often. But he's been with Atlanta and correct me if I'm wrong about
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  eight seasons now, and you know something that we don't usually see in Italy,
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  you know, having a coach have a ten year old that for for
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  those many years. You know, we know alleg is the master of the
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  one off game, you know, getting his players ready to go. And
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  like you said at the top of the show, then you know, Atlanta
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  even coming into this as the quote unquote favorite over a uvent is that has
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  been playing terribly in these last I think ten to fifteen matches and Atalanta probably
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  the opposite. Is there? Is it just you know, is it just
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  Gaspardini. He's had the teams, he's had the he's had the individual talents.
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  What do you think is gonna take for him to get and finally get
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  over that happened, you know, stop being the bridesmaid and maybe be the
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  bride when when one of these finals. I don't know the answers to that
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  question, Drida, I'll be honest with you, like this is this is
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  Atalanta four point zero now under gas But I mean when you look at this
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  starting eleven that we had today versus the one in twenty three years ago against
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  youve we only had one same starter and that was Martin Darune, who I'm
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  actually the most worried about. Is him limping off injured. So hopefully he's
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  okay, because you know, he's our he's our captain. When Christillo he
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  hardly ever plays. He did play today, but you know he is mister
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  Atlanta, so that was a kind of a shock. You don't see Martin
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  Darune injured very often, and when he's crying like that, you know that
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  that something is definitely wrong. But I don't know the answer to that question.
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  I don't know why we speculate. You know, we have a group
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  of players who at this level because we are at Atlanta and we're not buying
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  experienced stars. Maybe and Gasparini even you know he's not he's he had a
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  hot minute with in there. But he's not a coach that has coached.
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  He's not a you know, he's not an allegory, he's not you know.
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  Nobody on the team, as good as they are, have the type
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  of experience to do this. That's the only thing I can say. I
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  mean, then again, you have you then with a lot of young guys
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  who are out there. I don't know, I don't know what it is,
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  but I just I'm a little bit at a loss. I really thought
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  that we had an opportunity here, the one against Latsio. I think that
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  first one was a little stolen from us. The one against you a few
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  years back at the Mopey Stadium, I felt like we got beat and this
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  time I just we got beat again. And I honestly am at a loss.
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  I don't know what it's going to take because I don't know what's wrong,
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  other than maybe speculating, don't have that type of experience of of winning
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  within the team. So we need to win something, and we need to
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  be able to keep this core together for a bit, which I don't think
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  is going to be really possible. As good as we are at replacing them,
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  we can't replace them with experienced people who are used to winning at this
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  Our only guy who who has or has played at this level was injured on
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  the bench and that was sale class match. So if you think about it,
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  very few, if any, have been winning at this level at even
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  our best players. Like, I feel like you touched upon it very well,
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  like especially with the Atalanta four point zero statement, because Gasparini has been
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  there for a good amount of time and I feel like, just from an
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  outsider's perspective, you know, like perspective, that's perspective, Wow, outsider's
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  perspective. It just seemed to like every time a player left, he'd managed
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  to slot somebody in there and they still function very well, and he just
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  has like I know you like you said it perfectly. You get players that
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  don't have winning experience. He just you know, like I'm not just like
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  like the like paraphrasing, but you know, like you're getting these diamonds in
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  the rough type of thing, but they end up being diamonds for Alto.
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  You know, like it's do you think like like do you think maybe you
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  know the time is coming gone for Gasperini or do you feel like as if
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  look given like the team's financials or you know, the team's realistic positioning and
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  you know, upper middle tier type of club in Italy, like because he's
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  consistently been getting the team into like a a competitive spot year in and year
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  out, you know, whether it's Europa, whether it's Champions League, you
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  know, and like even in Champions League you get fantastic results sometimes you know,
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  it's like like when do you like, is it does it does it
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  really necessary to necessary to change? You know, like or is it something
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  that well he needs a bit more support, like like in in your own
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  opinion, where does the biggest change need to come from coaching side, management
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  side? You know, like because the players you have to you can only
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  use the players that you have, you know what I mean, I don't
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  think I don't think it's anything on the players fundamentally, like they buy into
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  system and they find success with it, you know, like you brought up
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  to Catalta before, like the Catala Melan was not the Atlanta. You know,
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  a lot of people can say like, Okay, maybe it's the year
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  of like playing in the league, but maybe it's because I thought maybe before
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  a Melan Pioli system was not for him, you know, like That's just
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  a small example that I'm that I'm giving like, But essentially it comes down
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  to my point, where do you think the biggest amount of difference needs to
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  come from in order for Atlanta to get over that hump of you know,
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  not like get over the hump that barrier like winning something, whether it be
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  a copy Italia you know Super Copa or even like you know, I'm getting
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  into a very significant spot in a European competition, no matter what year it
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  is. What the words does the difference have to be? I think the
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  difference has to be less change more than more when you were if you look
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  at some of Obviously this Atlanta team has been up and down, uh this
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  season, but you can't you can't lie with the results. You know,
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  Italia final Europa League final, three points away from qualifying for Champions League,
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  got pretty much single handedly well together with Fiorentina, got Italy the fifth Champions
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  League spot, right, So you can't say this wasn't a successful season but
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  disrespected. That's that's ouch exactly. I mean we've lost some some some games
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  that we definitely should have won, you know, and we should be higher
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  in the table, but you know, competing on all three fronts. Look
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  this, like you mentioned Roma and at the weekend that match was peak Atta,
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  and of course Roma was tired, but but it was like very like,
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  yeah, I know this is I'm not even mad about the loss,
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  that's it. Yeah they got it, But but what happened Johnny in that
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  game? Right? For first of all, we are we have played just
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  as many games as Roma, right, pretty much? And uh, when
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  have you seen an Atlanta team and even a guesst Parini team be able to
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  rotate and have a deeper squad than somebody like Roma, a team like Rowan,
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  Right, Like that's to me, that's that's a big truth. And
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  then we should be up six miil at halftime pretty much, or at least
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  in the first sixty minutes soft penalty, right, Well, this week we
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  get it called against us on the weekend and then we luck out today,
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  but it doesn't help us any right, and all of a sudden two to
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  one in a game that should be we should have blown Roma out of the
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  water, and now we're nervous in the last twenty minutes. You know,
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  I mean, I know they don't they don't they don't understand what they're doing.
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  To people like me who have high blood pressure, like why isn't why
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  is like this? You know, why aren't they finishing their chances? And
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  why does a game where we really should have blown away the competition all of
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  a sudden nervy in the last twenty minutes. So there there is a there
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  is some mentality there. But the biggest thing is that you look at guys
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  like Ederson. You can look at guys like Isaac Kihan who came in in
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  January. You look at you know, Charlotte Catillare. These are players who
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  in the beginning of their time with Atalanta, it took them a while to
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  get in place. Right when we got Isaac can in January from Hellas Vidonna,
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  we felt like he was the center back we always needed. Gasparini had
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  been playing for like five six games and then started doing spot things. The
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  problem with Gasparini, I don't know if it's a problem, but the truth
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  of the matter with Gasperini, as players have said it, it takes six
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  months to a year to figure out how to play under gasp and to make
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  him happy. If you survive that, then you're good. But then when
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  we're constantly cycling these players out right, and I'm not talking about the you
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  know, we have the staples, We have the Darunes and the Tulois.
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  But Tuloi has barely played this year. Darune is getting older, right,
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  He's the only one left in the starting eleven from three years ago in that
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  copet Talia final. So we need to establish a new base, right.
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  Skamaka started off a little bit slowly too, and now he's coming into form.
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  So if we have if we get it, if we get into the
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  Champions League, if we're if we keep the same core of people, we
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  have to be able to have that together. If Adamola Lupman's days, if
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  elbil Alture becomes what we think he can be. So I've always said the
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  best change for Atlanta is less change. But somebody comes knocking and they say
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  ten coch miners. You know, we'll give you sixty five million for him.
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  What are we going to do buy three more players? Right? Remember
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  we still have hoylandto Manchester United and we got Scamaca, Toure and dicatilare pretty
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  much for the for the price of that. So it's a it's a difficult
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  situation to be in, to be you know, the Queen of the province.
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  We're still a provincial team. We have a modest, you know,
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  budget, still comparatively right, and we make money, but it's only because
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  we're smart. So I think at some point we need to have consistency.
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  We've had it with gas Brini, but we need it with the players.
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  I think that would be my biggest thing, and I think winning one trophy.
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  One trophy would do a lot for the team. Agreed. Back to
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  today's game, Actually I was I was just looking at the stats. So
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  Atlanta had sixty six persession possession, fifty six of which was in the attacking
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  half. You look on the other side, you've a thirty four percent possession,
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  sixty nine of which was in their defensive half. So this is you
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  know, typical agree ball play defensive, which you know, in a way,
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  I I kind of disagree with myself there because you did have a few
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  chances. They had that disclog goal. Whatever. I digress. But another
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  stat that stuck out was Atlanta thirteen attempts zero on target according to the official
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  Fat stat sheet, which I'm kind of confused because it does say Perin made
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  a save. So if they had zero shots on target, how did he
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  make a save? Where did that save come from? I do remember there's
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  a corner in which he had to corral it. I don't know if that
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  was considered the save, but whatever, zero official shots on target. When
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  I tell you that, what what do you what do you think? Yeah,
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  Bremer needs to change his last name to dish because he was sucking up
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  all the balls back there. You know, I mean that you saw what
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  was happening. All we were doing was was shooting from the outside and it
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  was getting blocked. You can't shoot through, through, through through a bunch
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  of guys, and you got Brember back there. Come on, I mean,
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  he's the beast. I mean, I think I tweeted that the two
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  best players on the pitch in this game were Bremer and Ederson, and neither
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  of them were chosen for for the Brazilian nationals, which I think is just
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  just especially come on Bremer, I mean, Edison's new to this. And
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  I also said that because I didn't want to talk about Lavich, but you
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  know, I just it says it all right. We ever, everything was
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  blocked and you know you can if you know, if you read the time
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  right, you see, oh Vlavitch scored in the fourth minute. Atlanta had
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  all the possession in UV's half, in the in they're attacking in they're attacking
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  half, right, and they had thirteen thirteen shots and zero a goal.
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  You know exactly what's happening. Nobody is surprised, honestly, this happened.
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  What I'm surprised at is that we allowed it to happen, which I you
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  know, so it's like and we just kept it. Like I said,
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  we just kept on trying to do the same thing over and over again,
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  trying little combinations within the box. But you see that there's seven players inside
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  the box and there's three Atlanta players in the box. If we're lucky,
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  right, we don't have jen Lukas Kamaka in the middle to cross too.
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  So you're not going to win when you got those trees of a back three
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  that they have back there with Bremer and got and and you know, like
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  you're you're not, like you're not going to score. And then when we
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  had our chances, Miranch skies it right and Lookman hits the post. Lookman
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  is the master of getting deflective goals, and it barely missed Parent's goal.
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  That that one that was just a shade. So it's football is football,
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  right, this is the way it bounces. But at the end of the
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  Roma match, it felt like there was a force field around Sevillar's goal.
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  You saw how many shots we took, how many opportunities we had. We
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  could just even cook miners open goal, shot it over right. It felt
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  like that was actually continuing today with the exception of not only was it that,
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  but we had that that low block in front of us. We've never
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  been good at breaking down the low block, and that's the toughest low block
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  to defend in all of Italy, maybe in all of Europe. Is when
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  y've gets it right, you've really gets it right, and they got it
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  right today. Yeah, no, I agree. I think one thing I
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  wanted to touch upon before maybe we move on, but uh, you know
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  you kind of mentioned it before, Dan, I agree with you, the
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  accumulation of YO cards to not see some of these players play in the final.
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  I know it's always been a thing, but like it just it sucks.
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  You know, I would have liked to have seen Scamaka on this on
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  this stage ahead of the Euros potentially, you know, it would have been
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  his first final as well. As as a young player. Look Atlly on
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  the other side as well. You kind of just want the best elevens on
• 22:33
  the pitch, right for both sides. That's kind of how I just see
• 22:37
  that. So I wanted to add to that point that you made earlier.
• 22:40
  But uh, yeah, and I don't know it just for me, it's
• 22:47
  it's it's it's a shame, but it's kind of a fun question to ask
• 22:51
  you. But do you put anything in? And I don't know how superstitious
• 22:53
  you are done and if you've told us before, I forget sorry, so
• 22:56
  forgive me for that. But you know, all in in sports, you
• 23:02
  know, touching the trophy before it's yours, there's always a sin, right,
• 23:04
  You're not supposed to touch the trophy, you know, if it's in
• 23:07
  hockey, if it's in the NFL, if it's whatever, don't touch the
• 23:11
  trophy. And some people like it to touch it, some people don't.
• 23:14
  Everybody does how they feel. Do you put anything in to Gasperini and Samaka
• 23:21
  touching the trophy in the uh, in the in the in the press conferences
• 23:25
  pre Kobe Talia final, or is that just nor here nor nor here nor
• 23:30
  there? Like? What do you make about that kind of a fun one
• 23:33
  for you. Well, I do now because don't touch it. I think,
• 23:41
  I think it's funny. I am. I wouldn't do it at a
• 23:45
  superstition, but more out of respect if it was just me, if I
• 23:47
  was in front of the Stanley cop cup, I tell you whatever, all
• 23:49
  those ones, I ain't touching that until it's mine. So I saw how
• 23:52
  Gasprini did it, and he was definitely playing at the fact of the superstitions.
• 23:57
  And when I saw that, I was like, whatever, like either
• 24:00
  we win or lose. Now I'm not a superstitious, uh person at all,
• 24:04
  but uh but don't tempt, don't tempt fate Gasp and Scammacha like come
• 24:11
  on, like you know, And it was just it was a very gasp
• 24:14
  thing to do right the way the way that he did it. And I
• 24:17
  was like, oh, here we go, Here we go. I mean,
• 24:18
  I love the man, but like it was really really funny to see
• 24:23
  him not being the one going completely mad on the sidelines. Like I think
• 24:27
  that that was one of my favorite moments. Uh no, it you know.
• 24:33
  I made a comment that if Gasp that was the one that was taking
• 24:37
  off his clothes, we all would have had a harder time with that,
• 24:40
  but at least it wasn't like who is doing that? But the best was
• 24:42
  Cambiaso on the sideline like like getting super excited that that Max was going crazy.
• 24:48
  To me, that was that was absolutely hilarious. But you know,
• 24:52
  I think I think both coaches had had a write in this game to complain
• 24:57
  about Moresque's officiating a little bit. It was he was letting it go a
• 25:03
  little bit too much, right, I think he lost especially at the end,
• 25:07
  he lost control. You could just tell, like both sides of Fresher.
• 25:11
  I was surprised Gaps remained calm, like, okay, I know,
• 25:15
  I'll agree. Has this thing. You've seen videos in the pass of him
• 25:18
  throwing out the jacket and that's what he did to continue address the button of
• 25:22
  the cart. He was doing his typical Yeah, that was he just like
• 25:29
  he's he. I don't know how official it is of him leaving, apparently
• 25:33
  he said it in his press conference today, but it seems like he just
• 25:37
  wants to go out with a bang. He got the red card, he
• 25:40
  got the trophy. But yeah, uh so that was funny. But one
• 25:45
  thing I did want to ask, you know, we're talking about Scamaka not
• 25:48
  playing, And one thing I saw on social media today is people saying,
• 25:52
  oh I bet at Talanta, but I forgot Schamaca wasn't playing. How much
• 25:56
  of a difference do you think he would have made if he did play.
• 26:00
  I think you would have made a difference. I think you know the guys
• 26:07
  who we had upfront to catchal So I'm gonna I'm gonna say two different things,
• 26:14
  right, I don't think that that game was going to be in any
• 26:21
  any attacker that we had like Wheelhouse, you know, it's very crowded,
• 26:26
  there's a lack of space, nobody can really run, so but to have
• 26:30
  another big body centrally, especially in that second half when we were doing everything
• 26:34
  that we could into swinging crosses and you know je Lukas Kamaka is tall,
• 26:38
  he's six foot five, and you know he's quite good in the air.
• 26:44
  He scored a couple of headed goals this year. But you know, when
• 26:47
  you have Adam La lukman elbil Alture in there in the second half, who
• 26:52
  but they can jump high, but they're not big body people going up against
• 26:56
  Gatti, and then you need we needed another big body. So whether or
• 27:00
  not that He definitely couldn't have done anything for us getting scored on in the
• 27:03
  in the in the fourth minute, but I think it would have created a
• 27:08
  lot more havoc. And there were a couple of times and I'm thinking that
• 27:12
  that chance that had in the first half where he was able to get by
• 27:18
  Danill, I believe, and he kind of just struck the ball with outside
• 27:23
  of his foot and it kind of skied a little bit. Skamaka gets chances
• 27:27
  like that. When Skamaka gets in a position, he scores. Right.
• 27:33
  The magic for Skamaka, if he can get this right is how to get
• 27:36
  in the right position. If he ever gets in the right position in the
• 27:38
  ball is at his feet, he scores. And so I think that we
• 27:42
  would have been able to capitalize a little bit. But yeah, I think
• 27:48
  he would have made a difference in this match, especially in the second half,
• 27:53
  somebody who was a little bit more of an aerial threat. I mean
• 27:56
  you saw at the very end of the game. I mean it was the
• 27:57
  end of the game, but even like you know, ten minutes to go
• 28:02
  in the game, you saw Scalvini playing center forward because we need some mit
• 28:06
  in the box, right, We just we just didn't have it, and
• 28:08
  then boom, counterattack, counter attack, heart attack. You know how it
• 28:11
  is. But he would have made a difference. I mean, he's a
• 28:14
  he's an informed striker, he's a big body. I think that's what the
• 28:18
  game needed. It wasn't even about tactics. It wasn't about you know,
• 28:21
  at this point, it's just get some bodies into the box because they've got
• 28:23
  eight guys in there, and you know, we're putting in crosses and if
• 28:26
  if we do it to the near post, it gets headed out. If
• 28:29
  we do it in the middle, it gets headed out. We go to
• 28:30
  the far post, you know, Zeppa Colaster or hoteybor with on it.
• 28:33
  Like so we need somebody who can challenge in the middle, maybe get a
• 28:37
  garbage goal, right, That was the other thing we weren't. They were
• 28:41
  clearing it out and maybe we'd get it out to our you know, to
• 28:45
  the top of the box. We'd cycle it back in and kept doing the
• 28:47
  same thing over and over and over again. For eighty six minutes. We
• 28:51
  did the same thing over and over and over again. Skimacha would have helped,
• 28:55
  I believe, even just as like a reference point, you know,
• 28:59
  and just how because like you said, you know, crossing in the ball
• 29:02
  to pretty much nobody. They pretty much gave the ball away every time they
• 29:04
  crossed it RW Jerry on the sides, you know, Lukeman, you mentioned
• 29:10
  Upacosta and others, but I think it was frustrating. And one more thing
• 29:15
  I wanted to actually not ask you that you brought this up. Then,
• 29:18
  you know, four minutes and you guys get scored on. Do you think
• 29:22
  like whatever game plan Atalanta had coming into this final, you know, went
• 29:27
  out the window after getting scored on so early, because like what we all
• 29:30
  know obviously, you know, the whole block, like a little block is
• 29:33
  you know, it's really hard to beat, but you know, like there
• 29:37
  was time to still do something. Unfortunately, there wasn't the case. Do
• 29:41
  you think, you know, everything went out the window once you guys got
• 29:45
  scored on early or or they were still intact you know, going forward.
• 29:49
  No, I think that there was a plan for that, you know,
• 29:53
  because that happens, right. The problem is the plan that we had for
• 29:59
  it didn't work. And I think the real the real miss for me,
• 30:03
  and like like I know better than gas Brady, but just in my opinion,
• 30:07
  it was keeping Paseolch in the midfield. Right. Obviously you can't make
• 30:12
  a change for minutes into the game unless it's injury, right, So I
• 30:17
  really think that switching Coke Miners into the center, and to be honest with
• 30:21
  you, because we have Colasinatch out right, you know, and d Run
• 30:29
  is playing at center back, and I think that that we've done really really
• 30:36
  well. We have a more attacking game with Pasolch in the middle, and
• 30:40
  that with Ederson, you know, de Run there at center back. Sometimes
• 30:42
  he pushes up into into the midfield. But I think we could have used
• 30:45
  Drun in the in the middle of the pitch in this game. So some
• 30:49
  sort of change earlier than when all the changes happened. I also think that
• 30:55
  el Bill Altoure was fantastic when he came in for for a young striker.
• 31:00
  But you know, we were going back and forth with some different ethe Antini
• 31:02
  on Twitter and they're like, you know, elbow alteration come in and I'm
• 31:04
  like, I've never seen him play in a game like this. He's a
• 31:07
  young kid. All I've ever seen is, you know, he comes in
• 31:10
  fifteen minutes pretty much. He played, he played one game, he started
• 31:14
  one game, but normally his fortes were up one nothing or two nothing,
• 31:18
  and he comes in and he scores. He scores a goal because there's so
• 31:22
  much space. That's what he does. He's fast, he's good. I
• 31:25
  was impressed with how he was able to hold up the ball a little bit,
• 31:27
  but he doesn't hold up the ball like like Skimakadas. And part of
• 31:30
  the problem is he came on for the Catala, and yeah, the Kaitlari
• 31:36
  wasn't playing well, so he definitely should have come off. But we need
• 31:41
  a guy like the Cattilari in a game like this sometimes even if they're they're
• 31:45
  complete ghosts for an entire game. They make one play and they can solve
• 31:49
  everything. So I was a little disappointed that the Katlari came off, because
• 31:53
  I think you need guys who have some some tricks up their sleeves, maybe
• 31:59
  in one moment of brilliance to beat you've when you're down to them, you
• 32:04
  either have to either have to make a mistake in a in a really vulnerable
• 32:07
  area, or you have to to have a player that that can can produce
• 32:12
  miracles. And as bad as the Katlari was, taking them out at halftime
• 32:15
  and putting a young guy. I don't know. I don't know about that
• 32:20
  call. To be honest, who who would you have taken off for?
• 32:22
  For if you would have chosen, well my halftime changes, as I would
• 32:29
  have actually taken Posseolch off and I would have brought I would have brought Mi
• 32:35
  Ranchuck in because Miranchuk is famous for being good in tight spaces, and I
• 32:42
  was actually surprised that TOI came on instead of Miranchuk. There was a really
• 32:45
  interesting thing that happened at the end of the Roma game was we saw Gasparini
• 32:52
  when when we were only up to one and there was a chance that Romo
• 32:54
  was going to peg us back right he was talking to Rafa Tolloyd like he
• 32:59
  was gonna get ready to go in, and then all of a sudden,
• 33:01
  he goes to Miranchuk and brings Miranchuck in. And I was like, he's
• 33:05
  we're defending a lead and he's bringing in a you know, an attacking midfielder.
• 33:08
  But that substitution actually changed everything. The pressure was off because we were
• 33:13
  putting pressure on them, and and so I was just surprised that a guy
• 33:17
  who's known for being good in tight spaces like Miranchuk wasn't the first one to
• 33:21
  go on, So just just some of my thoughts. But I think Passelch
• 33:25
  really had an egg there. And cop Miners needs to have the ball at
• 33:29
  his feet with facing the goal and looking at all his all his teammates.
• 33:35
  That's in the games like this, that's where we need him. He needs
• 33:37
  to be controlling it because the ball was at adam Ola Lukman's feet too often.
• 33:40
  And when adam Ola Lolikman, I'm wearing his jersey. I love him.
• 33:45
  When he has the ball at his feet, it stays at his feet.
• 33:49
  So yeah, uh, you know, talking about some of those substitutions,
• 33:55
  you know, I was a bit surprised they had the triple substitution.
• 33:59
  I think at one point it was had to board Skulviny and Morentchuk, so
• 34:02
  if I remember correctly, Like so, I don't you know, really pay
• 34:07
  attention to, you know, Atalanta's starting lineup every week, but even seeing
• 34:10
  this starting lineup, I was kind of surprised. I kind of felt like
• 34:14
  it wasn't their best. I don't know if you agree with me. And
• 34:17
  do you think having the game on Saturday and then having the Europa League Final
• 34:22
  next week kind of maybe played into that lineup decision from GASPREENI right now,
• 34:29
  without Kamaka, this is our best eleven, including not having Scalvini on the
• 34:32
  pitch. He was out for a little while. He hasn't been the same
• 34:36
  since he got back. I think colass and the back three. Really the
• 34:40
  best back three for us is kolasinech keen And and Jim Jim Shitty. So
• 34:50
  you know, with Kolasinch out, bringing Darune back, having Passel in the
• 34:53
  midfield, that's kind of what we've done, you know, bar it with
• 34:58
  the With the exception of not having Kamaka there, this is actually lately our
• 35:01
  best starting eleven. I was surprised to see hot Tibor come in for a
• 35:07
  zappaquesta a little bit. Wasn't surprised to see Scalvini come in for he and
• 35:09
  because he was on a yellow card and he was he was, you know,
• 35:14
  living nine lives at the back door having to deal with Louvich. But
• 35:20
  no, no, I mean I wanted Morantrick to come in sooner. I
• 35:23
  never thought I would ever say that, but I actually wanted to come in
• 35:29
  a little bit sooner. I thought the game was going to suit him a
• 35:30
  little bit better. But you know, I think that we threw everything that
• 35:36
  we could at them, but it was just you was too good. You've
• 35:38
  just too good at that. And of course as the game gets later,
• 35:42
  youve brings in their subs, they got some speed in their young guys,
• 35:45
  and uh there's always a threat, right, So we're very lucky that we
• 35:50
  didn't lose two three nothing at this point, well, I mean transitioning from
• 35:55
  one tough opponent to another, the Europa League Final coming up against lever Goosen,
• 36:00
  the team of destiny, that I just feel like that they are you
• 36:04
  know, like, what are some like in a way, maybe it might
• 36:07
  be thankful for it, because there might be some lessons they can learn from
• 36:10
  this game to apply it to the next one. What are some lessons you
• 36:13
  probably see the team taking from this loss to apply it to the next really
• 36:17
  big important matchup. I'll be honest with you, Johnny, I think this
• 36:22
  two completely different games. Lever Cusin isn't even if they go up one nothing
• 36:27
  early, They're going to keep attacking us. So I think this actually plays
• 36:30
  into our wheelhouse, right. I don't think that that Leverkusen is going to
• 36:34
  sit back and put a force field around their net and then hit us on
• 36:39
  the counter. No, this is free flowing ball, so we could we
• 36:44
  could lose four nothing or we could win three nothing for nothing. I think
• 36:50
  this game is going to be you know, to be honest, this this
• 36:52
  whole Batality game was actually quite exciting, even though it was you know,
• 36:57
  I wanted to pull my hair out the entire time. It was actually kind
• 36:59
  of it was a cup final, right, it really was. It had
• 37:01
  it all for a one nil game. But honestly, why hasn't Alta done
• 37:07
  so well in Europe? Right? Like? Why is? Why have we
• 37:12
  struggled at times in Saria? Why did we lose in the final to Yuva?
• 37:15
  Like, nobody's gonna sit back against us. We're going to actually have
• 37:19
  space. This new Atlanta team is built on spaces, you know, quick
• 37:24
  counters. We're not a counter attacking team per se, but we're we're direct.
• 37:30
  We have pace. And when we used to not have when we had
• 37:31
  Illegitapu and Duvan, those guys weren't runners, right, those guys were magicians.
• 37:38
  You know, we got a bull and a couple of magicians. So
• 37:42
  this team is completely different. Right, there's pace, there's power, so
• 37:45
  I actually like our chances, like honestly and deep down inside, I like
• 37:50
  our chances against Buyer more than against Yuva because of Juves Juve, right,
• 37:57
  especially since we got that. So I don't know what's going to happen.
• 38:00
  I don't know if this game is going to teach us anything about playing Buyer.
• 38:04
  I think the games against Liverpool and the games against Olympic Marseille, but
• 38:09
  more Liverpool are are what we can glean from and take some of that.
• 38:13
  But you're right, I don't know where the bayer Leverkusen team come from.
• 38:17
  You know, we met them in the Europa League, you know, round
• 38:21
  of sixteen. I believe it was a couple of years back we beat them,
• 38:24
  and this year they've just been crazy. But it's going to be the
• 38:29
  best story if the game that they lose is the final to Atlanta. I
• 38:32
  mean, that's just that's asking too much, I think, But I think
• 38:36
  it's a good chance. It's very possible. Yeah, well, I beat
• 38:43
  in fifty game sometime like why not? I mean, we we really ran
• 38:49
  over a lot of teams in the Europa League, teams that I thought that,
• 38:52
  you know, I mean, we had we had to go through Sporting
• 38:55
  in the group stage and then knockouts. That's a hell of a team.
• 38:59
  If you ever watched than Ruben number Rim, He's he's going to be the
• 39:01
  next big thing when it comes to coaching. And they have Gilchrest what are
• 39:06
  that great Swedish striker? It was really unbelievable Liverpool Like we draw Liverpool in
• 39:13
  the quarterfinals? Are you kidding me? Right? As soon as we beat
• 39:15
  Liverpool, I knew we were going to beat O. M I knew we
• 39:17
  were going to be in the final. I was looking flights to Dublin already,
• 39:21
  but Dale it's expensive out there to get there from North America, so
• 39:25
  I'm gonna have to celebrate at home. Uh. Any expectations at all for
• 39:34
  for the game, I mean, any European final is big, you know,
• 39:38
  it's it's almost become a theme now we've seen Italian teams make these finals.
• 39:44
  Last year Romo was in it. They lost to Sevilla. You know,
• 39:46
  Farantino was in the conferencecing final last year, Romo was in the conferenceing
• 39:51
  final. Two years ago when was into the Champions League final? Was it
• 39:53
  twenty twenty two? Also? Yeah? Last year? Last year Jesus h
• 40:00
  so We've seen a lot of Italian teams. Just for you personally to see
• 40:05
  Atalanta here, what what does it mean like and are you setting yourself any
• 40:08
  like personal expectations. Well, what it means to me is like, to
• 40:15
  be honest with you, you know, the reason why I'm an Atlanta fan
• 40:17
  is because my father's from Bergramo, so I was born into the club.
• 40:21
  You know, he's been gone for ten years, but this is the first
• 40:23
  time that I've actually in my lifetime seen some Atlanta do something that he has
• 40:30
  never seen in his lifetime, and that's to make it to European final.
• 40:34
  So that kind of hit me. I was like, oh, that's that's
• 40:36
  kind of big. Like, you know, my dad was around when they
• 40:37
  won the Copa Italia. I never got to see that. I was quite
• 40:42
  young when they made it to the semi final of the Yuefa Cup as Asaria
• 40:46
  B team, you know, but this is the This is unprecedented for Atalanta
• 40:53
  in general. So I think that as much as I wanted the Copalia,
• 41:00
  this match of course is huge and I think one of the reasons why Italian
• 41:04
  teams do so well in Europe, except for you know, maybe when we
• 41:08
  get to the finals, with the exception of Roma in the Conference League two
• 41:12
  years ago. But is that that teams in finals they play open, right,
• 41:17
  So I think that that Atalanta has a good chance here and my expectation
• 41:25
  really is that we are going to keep it close, right. I want
• 41:29
  to see some good football. These are two attacking teams, right. I
• 41:34
  think the first few minutes what we need to do is really just go at
• 41:38
  them. In the first few minutes. I want to see an early goal
• 41:44
  because if we get an early goal, then it becomes even wider open,
• 41:49
  right, and that's where we can we can use our directness. You know,
• 41:53
  they're they're a great squad. They have with they have speed, they
• 41:58
  have finishing, they have it all, right. But if there's a team
• 42:01
  that's suited not to neutralize them, but do the exact same thing to them,
• 42:06
  I think it's Atlanta in Europe right now. I think there's two teams
• 42:09
  in Europe that could have gone toe to toe with Buyer in the same style.
• 42:13
  One of them was Sporting and the other one was at Atlanta. So
• 42:15
  I'm really really looking forward to this final, and I think that we're going
• 42:22
  to surprise some people with the result. That's how I feel. But my
• 42:25
  expectation is play a great game, represents as well, have some good memories
• 42:30
  for our first European final, and if we don't win, we'll get back
• 42:32
  there again. No, I think I think you nailed that on the head.
• 42:37
  The only thing with bio evercus In especially weight we and again I don't
• 42:43
  know all their their wins from or their their results in their fifty game on
• 42:46
  beaton Stry but wait, they've been even knocking at the door leap like in
• 42:52
  a ninety plus minutes. So if there's one thing Atlanta needs to obviously pay
• 42:55
  attention to where I hope I'm assuming they have. But like this team by
• 43:00
  all evercleus In, there's there's there's no quit like they go to the final
• 43:04
  minute, So from whistle to whistle, Atalanta is going to have to play.
• 43:07
  They're gonna have to play their game. And uh, honestly, for
• 43:10
  me, Dan and again I don't know if you feel the same way,
• 43:13
  but like, yeah, okay, it's a final and obviously there's a winner
• 43:16
  and there's a loser. But you know, for me, if you're Atalanta,
• 43:20
  you go in there, there's not really much to lose. In quotations,
• 43:22
  you know, like just that mentality of not having much to lose and
• 43:27
  kind of you know what, the expectation is not there. You know,
• 43:30
  people are not expecting you, first off, get there. Second of all,
• 43:32
  win. I don't see why they don't just go for it, uh
• 43:36
  and and and and really play for the play for this final, because I
• 43:39
  think it would be huge and only for you personally then, but I think
• 43:42
  for the city of m I think after everything they've been through in the last
• 43:45
  handful of years, I think they deserve it. So, you know,
• 43:51
  I don't see why not, why not break the streak? Why not go
• 43:54
  for it? I'm hopeful, I think as just a neutral, I think
• 43:58
  we're all hopeful for frat up. I don't know, you know what else
• 44:02
  we more we can say about it, but if you know, because obviously
• 44:07
  there's there's two sides of the coin, you know, the winning side and
• 44:10
  obviously the losing side, you know, And you said the season I don't
• 44:15
  think is a failure, and I would agree, But what do you make
• 44:20
  of this season if you know, because we're going to have to talk about
• 44:22
  the other side, you know, with a Coporate Talia final loss, and
• 44:25
  let's say the result doesn't go your way in Europa League final, but you
• 44:29
  make it into Champions League with the five spots. How do you sum up
• 44:32
  this season for Atalanta as a whole, even though there was some battle wounds,
• 44:37
  at the end of it resounding success. If you had told me,
• 44:42
  hey, listen, you're going to be in two cup finals and you're going
• 44:45
  to qualify for the Champions League at the beginning of the season, I'd be
• 44:47
  like, sign me up, right, Yeah, I think it's a resounding
• 44:51
  scess. Of course, when you if you lose in a final, you
• 44:52
  feel bad, but you can't can't say it's anything but a resounding success.
• 44:59
  I mean, we're not not a Cinderella story anymore. We've been there too
• 45:02
  often. We're you know, that's no longer us. We're expected to to
• 45:08
  compete for Europe and that's what we've been doing. Have we had some disappointing
• 45:12
  results. Have we had some patchy form yat but we actually picked up for
• 45:15
  him at the exact right time. I mean, we had a crazy uh
• 45:20
  stretch of seven games uh in Sarah where we played all the top teams.
• 45:23
  We didn't do too well, but then we had we started winning it in
• 45:28
  Europe. We started winning the games in Sara that we needed to, so
• 45:32
  you know, it's definitely a resounding success. And you're right, the Theta
• 45:37
  deserves this, Gasparini deserves as the people that Bergam will deserve this. I
• 45:42
  deserve, and not even just for the last couple of years, for the
• 45:44
  last ninety minutes, the last eighty six minutes of what we had to endure
• 45:47
  of a leg reball we deserve. We deserve painter that pain and suffering.
• 45:54
  We listen, one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist, And I felt
• 46:00
  like that was a terror attack on us. Man, Like that was just
• 46:01
  like what do you even do about that? Like I'm I can't even be
• 46:07
  sad, to be honest with you, I'm just shaking my head. It's
• 46:08
  like, it's unbelievable how that pans out. Like I you know, I'm
• 46:14
  truly in awe. It's somewhere between discussed and all but closer to all about
• 46:21
  it. But it shows you what a winning mentality a guy, a coach
• 46:25
  who's been there, a team of players, a lot of players who have
• 46:29
  been there. There's a huge difference because you know, it's not in our
• 46:34
  DNA to do that and that's okay. I'm not saying that this is I'm
• 46:37
  not one of those allegory even though I'm saying I'm an aegur ball victim right
• 46:39
  now, I'm not one of those people who doesn't who thinks that it's just
• 46:45
  the most terrible thing. It's such power football, like all this whatever.
• 46:47
  Right, he wins. I don't know how he does it, but we
• 46:51
  couldn't do that. A guess briny team could not do that. We don't
• 46:55
  have the capability to do what Allegree did in order to win in this game.
• 47:00
  And half of me is proud of that, and half of me is
• 47:04
  disgusted by the fact that we could. We can't do that. And you're
• 47:07
  right with Youando. The late game lapses cannot happen against Buyer Leverkusen. They're
• 47:15
  too good. So that's why we need to be up five nil in the
• 47:17
  eighty fifth minute. That happens, so they scored three goals. We still
• 47:22
  win five to three. So I'm changing my expectation. We need to be
• 47:24
  up five nil in the eighty seventh minute and then Buyer will score four goals.
• 47:32
  You heard it here first, all right, I'm gonna go spend the
• 47:38
  money on the over. Right, Now, that's let's get that over.
• 47:43
  Let's all going to Vegas. Let's all go to Vegas. If you bet
• 47:46
  on that game, you got a bet the over on that game. Man,
• 47:49
  Oh for sure. Absolutely. It's funny you mentioned you say, you
• 47:52
  know a team like you they have the experience. But it's been three years
• 47:55
  and for you've found that's three long goals. I know, no, no,
• 48:02
  no, oh my god. But what I wanted to say is you
• 48:06
  look back. I was just looking the team that won the cop Italian twenty
• 48:08
  twenty one. Only seven players are left, which is actually pretty crazy.
• 48:12
  I think about, Uh so this is a this is a whole new team.
• 48:15
  A lot of players won their first trophy for ve you know, think
• 48:17
  about guys like local Tali Valvich. Uh this was the first trophy with with
• 48:22
  the club and you know it. But like you said, even just like
• 48:25
  he is that leader for previous Copiatalia, now he's the leader now with five.
• 48:34
  Like you said, he has that experience. Uh you know, I
• 48:37
  I know the fans we were trashing on him all season, but I think
• 48:39
  overall of a Twitter was just grateful for him. Like I said, it
• 48:43
  feels like it's just coming to an end. It's a chapter that's closing.
• 48:45
  Uh So today was today was a fitting close. I also wanted to ask,
• 48:51
  so, so at Atlanta they have technically they have two separate ways to
• 48:54
  get into Champions League. They could either win the Europa League Final and and
• 49:00
  qualify that way, or probably probably the easier route is they need three points
• 49:05
  in one in their three last games, so you know, whatever, three
• 49:07
  draws or a win, and so I think they play Letcha this weekend to
• 49:14
  Reno the next weekend, and and then there's the makeup game against Ferentina on
• 49:19
  June second. So after the season finishes, obviously, you know you just
• 49:24
  want to win this weekend against Lecha. How you know, even just for
• 49:30
  the player's sake, how do you think like at least getting the win this
• 49:36
  weekend and qualifying for the Champions League could maybe take some pressure off heading into
• 49:39
  the heading into Wednesday's game. Of course it would if we if we won,
• 49:45
  that would help a lot. But we'll get to three points, but
• 49:49
  we'll probably draw the last three games. That's the most. That's a lot
• 49:52
  to think to do. So the game against field Emptiena, actually we have
• 49:55
  to get something out of right, No, I think I think what we
• 50:00
  need to do is we need to take care of business at the weekend because
• 50:05
  once that's in there, like you know, qualifying for Champions League is that's
• 50:09
  that's that's huge for us. To me, that is not a still as
• 50:15
  a fan, Europa League qualification Europe in general is what I feel is important.
• 50:22
  I think that's that's what the team shoots for. So Champions League is
• 50:27
  is elite for us to be able to you know, I would have I
• 50:30
  would love to be able to nip you for fourth spot, you know,
• 50:34
  seeing as we lost the cup to them. So whatever you can do,
• 50:36
  Nick, you know, just throw us a bone and one hundred million will
• 50:38
  give you cop minors. Uh and uh you know, but I think you
• 50:45
  expect to help out anybody in this league. They can't afford to help us
• 50:51
  out anymore. That's the problem. Too many, too many crap deals in
• 50:55
  the past under the table without the laptop. Anyways. But I think I
• 51:05
  think that, uh, it's important at the weekend, like uh, you
• 51:08
  know, every single game is important here, you know, I think for
• 51:14
  the team, for the actual society itself, you know, the money,
• 51:17
  the Champions League brings in, you know, if we want to be able
• 51:20
  to like I was looking at what possibly cop Miners' salary was going to be
• 51:23
  the you know, the rumors of what Yuba was going to give. We
• 51:25
  could technically afford that. Now, so if the only thing that Cope Miners
• 51:30
  would be getting at you if he goes there is be pre eventus, which
• 51:35
  of course that's that's a good honor, right that for you know people I
• 51:38
  guess who are not formidably who aren't Uventus fans. But uh, you know,
• 51:44
  we could actually match his salary. We could afford him. We don't
• 51:46
  need to sell him. We have money. So and if he's going into
• 51:51
  a situation where okay, well but he's going to be in Champions League with
• 51:54
  Atlanta too, so you know, we we get we get to play in
• 51:59
  the Super Kopa now that there's four teams, right, so like like yeah,
• 52:05
  and if we win the the Europa League, we have we have a
• 52:08
  title, right So I think all these things are quite important to I don't
• 52:14
  know, So we need to end on a high. We need to do
• 52:16
  our best to win a trophy and get into the Champions League as soon as
• 52:20
  possible. You know, I agree. I think, uh listen, I
• 52:23
  think it's doable. I mean, it's gonna be doable one way or the
• 52:25
  other. I mean, it's just what route you want to take. Like
• 52:29
  like we just said, you know, I don't think there's a right way
• 52:32
  or a wrong way you're gonna get there, you know. Uh so I
• 52:37
  don't, you know, I don't doubt it. I mean, listen,
• 52:38
  I like your point on you know, Tolanta's no longer the Cinderella story anymore.
• 52:43
  Like we were we were, we were there and and we've been through
• 52:46
  those days and incredible days. But listen, you know, times have changed.
• 52:51
  Atlanta is still there. And I think one thing this season, and
• 52:53
  again I'm not watching Atlanta week in week out. Obviously pay attention to what
• 52:58
  they're doing, but this has been a resilient group. I think from the
• 53:01
  beginning of the season unto up until now, it's it's it's a it's a
• 53:07
  team that up until these last maybe a couple of months is like man,
• 53:12
  I think like Atlanta kind of just faded, like fitted off and like wasn't
• 53:15
  going to get into Europe or maybe he wasn't going to get into Champions League
• 53:17
  and now you know, there's steps away from from doing that, and like
• 53:21
  you know, they were in two cup finals, one more to go,
• 53:24
  so you know, I think, you know, resilience is one word I
• 53:29
  think to throw some up this this Atlanta team, especially this season. And
• 53:32
  one thing I saw before today's Magi Dan and I was a bit shocked.
• 53:37
  And obviously you're more into the Atlanta verse than I am. But and and
• 53:44
  and Gaspardini kind of making amends, if you will, any any thought about
• 53:49
  that? Or is that was that accurate of a of a of like how
• 53:52
  to say that? Because I saw a bit of the picture saw you know,
• 53:54
  obviously a bit of the news and rumors, but just your thoughts about
• 53:59
  that, because these are two people that really made history with with Atalanta,
• 54:04
  I think honorary citizens of of of Yeah, just what do you make of
• 54:08
  all that? And finally, after all this time, Yeah, I mean,
• 54:13
  it's it's it feels like such a long time ago. As much as
• 54:17
  I missed Papu, you know, he was he was mister Atlanta, you
• 54:22
  know for us as and when that acrimonious split happened, you know, it
• 54:28
  was it was always well, you know, there was a lot of factions
• 54:30
  like I still love Papu, I miss him. There are some Atalina that
• 54:34
  well, you know, nobody's bigger than the club, and I agree with
• 54:37
  that. Yeah, you know, Gasparini is was isn't was more important than
• 54:44
  any other player, than any player that that we have. You know,
• 54:47
  Gasparini in and of himself, it's the relationship that he has with the Pedrecassis
• 54:53
  at the time, the relationship he had with Sartori. You see what Sartori
• 54:58
  has done with Bologna, right, But now Gasprite's doing it with Damiko.
• 55:02
  So I love to see it. Who doesn't love to see it? But
• 55:06
  what do I make of it? I don't know. I guess it was
• 55:09
  bound to happen. You know, it's been tough for Papu. Popoo still
• 55:14
  has, you know, a home in Bertgramo. He has his restaurant in
• 55:17
  Bertragamore. So he, you know, came back to Sarah with Monsa,
• 55:22
  doping allegations, all all those types of things. So that was really sad
• 55:25
  for me. I think most a Talentini. When I say most, I
• 55:30
  say probably ninety five percent, if not more, have still loved the guy,
• 55:36
  right, And it's never going to be anything but love. He's a
• 55:38
  club legend, he always will be, so it's nice. I don't know
• 55:44
  what it means. Is he going to ever play in uh in Teria again?
• 55:49
  He's gonna play profession football again. I don't know what the answer is.
• 55:52
  But when I left to see him in some sort of capacity at the
• 55:53
  club one, you know that. I think that would be a big lift.
• 55:59
  So whatever the reason less for him doing that and gas bring and doing
• 56:01
  that, I don't read too much into it, but it was very nice
• 56:04
  to see agreed agreed. One more thing that I had. I don't know
• 56:10
  if these guys have anything, but you know, uh you mentioned, you
• 56:15
  mentioned sir Torri, what what he was able to do with with Atalanta.
• 56:20
  I just want to give a bit of bloney of their flowers, uh for
• 56:22
  finally getting back into Champions League nearly sixty years. I mean, incredible job.
• 56:27
  I mean we've spoken about it on the show time and time again.
• 56:30
  You know, just incredible job. We're frogging you getting into third place currently
• 56:36
  we'll see where they end up finishing, but officially qualified alongside Uventus Miland and
• 56:43
  obviously in there for for Champions they were missing that last spot, but just
• 56:47
  an incredible job and you know their squad most probably will be picked apart,
• 56:54
  hopefully not, but you know it seems like it's it's and then you know
• 56:59
  this better than maybe we do in terms of getting you know, uh,
• 57:02
  your players picked off of you. You know, do you think do you
• 57:07
  think if that happened for for for Atalanta, does that you know, are
• 57:12
  you just going to go back onto your old old ways of just being able
• 57:15
  to continuously, you know, find these diamonds and the roughs like Jenny said,
• 57:17
  and kind of continue on like or do you think because you mentioned you
• 57:21
  know you're able to match a guy to include minors salary and he's been you
• 57:24
  know, unplayable this season, he's remarkable twelve goals and said, yeah,
• 57:30
  it's ridiculous, like as a midfielder's he's incredible. Do you think you know
• 57:36
  you guys are are secure with your players or do you think you know you
• 57:42
  guys will get picked apart like ultimately maybe a Biloonia will come this summer.
• 57:47
  Yeah. I mean the first thing, I hope Bologna doesn't get get picked
• 57:51
  apart, and I think neither do I. The biggest The biggest thing is
• 57:54
  is if it Mota leaves right, that's going to be where the difference between
• 58:00
  Tories Atlanta Project, Sartoris Bologna project will differ if Mota can stay right,
• 58:07
  if if he feels like he's cooking something and Sartori is there like they can
• 58:10
  cook something. But you know, if you if it comes to call in,
• 58:14
  that's a different story. And he's young, so it's not in the
• 58:16
  same He didn't He doesn't leave a bad taste in the mouth of a certain
• 58:21
  teams that Gasprini does, right, So I think that's a different era.
• 58:25
  But for us, I'm sure one big player will go. I think if
• 58:34
  we make the Champions League, we're gonna lose one big everybody's talking about ten
• 58:38
  cook Miners right now. That would be a huge loss for us. But
• 58:45
  I'll be honest with you, I think a bigger loss for us would be
• 58:47
  somebody like Ederson. I think Ederson is underrated as far as what he has.
• 58:52
  He was immense today. I act that was one of the best games
• 58:58
  I've ever I've ever seen him play. But you know it's probably gonna be
• 59:01
  Coke Minors. I hope not. There's been rumors about Adam Ola Lukman but
• 59:07
  I think Adam All then I think he. I think people see Adam Ola
• 59:10
  Lukman as Gasparini's fools goal. I think they see him as not a player
• 59:17
  that can on their squad do the same thing that he does with Atlanta,
• 59:21
  to be honest, and that's the same thing with Charlots de Catillare. We're
• 59:23
  probably going to pay me lend the the fee there that looks pretty certain.
• 59:29
  Looks like a bargain, now right. I mean other aunt of you guys
• 59:31
  will get ten percent of the sale when we sell them to like Man City,
• 59:35
  like one hundred and fifteen billions, So you guys will be sitting pretty
• 59:38
  But I think one, I think one big player will go, and I
• 59:42
  think we'll see some of our older players leave. You know, we have
• 59:47
  this Atlanta U twenty three Prod's going quite well, you know in the playoffs
• 59:52
  in Sarah Chi and uh. We got a lot of young talent, so
• 59:57
  it'd be really interesting to see is last season for somebody like Raphael Tulo.
• 1:00:00
  I'm sure Daruon still has a few seasons left in him. But there will
• 1:00:07
  be some changes that happen in the Atlanta squad. But I think they will
• 1:00:09
  be minimal. So it's kind of been a thing where if we're gonna lose
• 1:00:15
  a player, we're gonna lose one big player, like you know, Kudo
• 1:00:19
  left and then Rasmus Hoyland left, So it's taking the one guy who brings
• 1:00:23
  you in a ton of money and bringing three guys in to replace him.
• 1:00:27
  And then I think that's what's gonna happen to us again, and unfortunately,
• 1:00:30
  I think it might be cop minors this summer. Well, by the way
• 1:00:34
  I see Atalanta, like they have a lot of things going very well.
• 1:00:39
  You informed us last time when you were on you know, like how they
• 1:00:42
  own their own stadium also makes a big difference and stuff. And you know,
• 1:00:45
  like the fact that you said the U twenty three is in the playoffs
• 1:00:47
  of the city actually is very huge. You know. It shows that the
• 1:00:51
  academy is capable of playing with even though it's not the highest tier, it's
• 1:00:55
  still immense league tier. So forgiven what they have, you know, they've
• 1:01:01
  done very well. And I feel like as if this is just the early
• 1:01:06
  years of something to build upon in the future. And in terms of consistency,
• 1:01:10
  right, obviously, if incompetence can ruin this, if it ever comes
• 1:01:15
  along, which in the world of like soccer, it's inevitable there's gonna be
• 1:01:21
  somebody who's incompetent at some point in some form of a position. But I
• 1:01:24
  mean the consistent whether it's domestic finals or now European finals, you know,
• 1:01:30
  and consistent league tops who will just I feel like, just snowball into more
• 1:01:37
  and more for Atalanta. So I mean, if it makes you feeling better,
• 1:01:39
  maybe sound like doom and glue now, but maybe we might be having
• 1:01:43
  a different conversation five ten years from now, you know. Yeah, I
• 1:01:47
  don't see any doom and gloom in that that. I think it's a cycle.
• 1:01:50
  Remember I'm old enough to remember when when I thought there wasn't Sarah Chi.
• 1:01:53
  So I'm living the middle or high life these last you know, eight
• 1:01:59
  years. You never want to forget. It was funny because during the game,
• 1:02:01
  you know, it's it's it's emotional to lose, and I'm not much
• 1:02:05
  of a crier. Nobody likes losing. Nobody likes losing, nobody likes it.
• 1:02:07
  Right, And they showed a picture of this, you know, on
• 1:02:10
  the TV of that the Aplata fan, that little girl maybe ten eleven years
• 1:02:14
  old, who was crying, and then I teared up a little bit.
• 1:02:16
  I'm like, oh, that's that's sad. Then I thought to myself,
• 1:02:21
  you stupid little girl. You don't You don't remember anything but our success.
• 1:02:23
  Right. I remember when we were in Sarah Chi. I turned into an
• 1:02:27
  old boomer, like real fast, right, said old man, yells at
• 1:02:32
  Clyde type of stuff. Exactly what I was doing. That's exactly what I
• 1:02:37
  was doing. I had. I had no sympathy for that child whatsoever,
• 1:02:40
  because I remember when we were in Sarah Chi and bouncing back between Sarah and
• 1:02:45
  Sarah beat all those years. So I think, you know, in the
• 1:02:49
  moment, it's tough, but there's no nothing, there's no doom, there's
• 1:02:52
  no bloom, at least from me. I think some of the newer fans
• 1:02:54
  are having a harder time. I've been talking some of them off a ledge,
• 1:02:59
  like we need to win a t I was like, yeah, I
• 1:03:00
  mean that that would be great, but like, holy cow, like this
• 1:03:02
  is this is insane and I hope I never lose that person. You must
• 1:03:07
  be new here. But but you know what I think, I think as
• 1:03:15
  long as Gasperini and Petacassi are together, right, the sporting director. I
• 1:03:21
  think we've seen a change in sporting director. The same thing happens when either
• 1:03:25
  one of those two leave. Then we'll talk, right. I think Gasparini
• 1:03:30
  has proven and Petacasi have proven that they can continue to run the club this
• 1:03:36
  way. But hear me out, you guys, Gasparini stays at Atlanta for
• 1:03:40
  another two years, we get to you know, we get to a Champions
• 1:03:45
  League semifinal, maybe even a final, and then Gasparini becomes replaces Spalletti as
• 1:03:52
  as a national team coach for a swan song. See what he can do,
• 1:03:58
  See what he can do. That's the That's all I'm saying. That's
• 1:04:00
  the only reason I had to let him leave. Okay, you go,
• 1:04:01
  you go coach the Zuri. I think people are going to be worried because
• 1:04:05
  it takes gas players a long time to but I'd love to see what what
• 1:04:10
  kind of sorcery we could do as an Italian national team using a gasp three
• 1:04:14
  four three. See what happens. It'd be crazy. I mean, I
• 1:04:21
  think it's like a conte where just be like, who the fuck is he
• 1:04:24
  bringing up and then just get success from like, oh, okay, all
• 1:04:30
  except at players everybody changes, everybody changes nationality, yeah, exactly. But
• 1:04:40
  but but you have to you have to, Yeah, you have to admit,
• 1:04:43
  right, I mean, look at the young coaches in Italian coaches now,
• 1:04:47
  or even just in Italy, all Gasparini acolytes, right, Palladino at
• 1:04:53
  Montsa, Thiago Mota, I mean even yours is a bit of a terrorist
• 1:04:59
  too. But you know he's done decent things, uh with Tono. You
• 1:05:03
  know, so many like Gasparriti has made a huge impact on Italian coaching,
• 1:05:10
  and it's just weird. You know, he's not He hasn't coached any anybody
• 1:05:13
  bigger than us really obviously there for six seconds, but they're not even a
• 1:05:16
  relevant club. So like, even though our uniforms that looked the same,
• 1:05:21
  did you guys get a load of that same sponsor paramount plus? I saw
• 1:05:28
  that, I was like, what the hell is this? I was like,
• 1:05:32
  we've officially sold out. I loved our jerseys this year without the shirt
• 1:05:36
  sponsor. I thought it was beautiful. You got it? I think so
• 1:05:41
  that is exactly why we lost. Forget about Gasparini rubbing his little finger on
• 1:05:45
  the trophy. It's the curse of adding a corporate sponsor like Paramount Plus and
• 1:05:50
  having your jersey look like an inter jersey. Forget the sakes. They don't
• 1:05:55
  need that. They just wanted to scare with our Paramount Plus. It didn't
• 1:06:02
  work. Work. What do you what are you going to do? No?
• 1:06:05
  I think we'll be okay. I just don't know. I think as
• 1:06:10
  long as the ownership is the same, as long as the coach is the
• 1:06:14
  same, you can expect the same thing from Atalanta constantly competing. Yeah,
• 1:06:19
  once one of those three things change, then we'll talk and see if things
• 1:06:25
  are going to be any different. I agree. I think because like it's
• 1:06:28
  it's an inevitable and you know, every team has a cycle, every team
• 1:06:30
  has, you know, certain windows of winning or success in their own right
• 1:06:34
  or what have you. But you know, I agree. I think it's
• 1:06:39
  that's when it's really going to be. Like I don't want to say make
• 1:06:42
  a break for Atalanta, but like that's like when you're talking about change,
• 1:06:45
  Like, yeah, can you know you can change players? I don't have
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  seen it time and time again. They've done it with other players time and
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  time again. So I think once you know, the Pacassis of the world,
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  the Gospadini's of the world. You know this this American ownership as well.
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  Payuka, I don't know, you know how long you know that that
• 1:07:01
  investment for him is in his in his pocket. But you know, we'll
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  we'll see. I think I still think that's a bit of way. I
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  mean, I know obviously is not getting any younger, but I mean at
• 1:07:13
  the same time, you know, we've seen we've seen older managers, uh,
• 1:07:16
  you know in Sadias. So I don't know, I think he has
• 1:07:20
  more to give. I think of just for Atalanta fans, there's just neutrals
• 1:07:25
  of the league. I think, like a bit maybe of success. Sure,
• 1:07:29
  but like you said, Dan, you know you've seen the hard times.
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  You know you're grateful for these times now. So yeah, I think
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  you summed it up perfectly. One thing I wanted to add onto your Ajuti
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  point, and I really don't know how I would feel about Gasperini coaching coaching
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  the Azuiti, But I guess who knows. Well, maybe time will tell
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  for for maybe that to happen, but never know. Yeah, no,
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  you definitely don't know. But one thing we do know where you know,
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  we're about a month away from from the Euros. You know you have some
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  players on this Atlanta team that are you know, in the mix of players
• 1:08:01
  that I think potentially can get called up or should get called up. You
• 1:08:03
  know, the likes of in my eyes, at least the likes of Skamaka
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  Scalvini, I think is a name that I personally like. I don't know
• 1:08:11
  your total thoughts on him, Dan, but I'm a fan of his.
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  Maybe Karnis Ski as as that third uh third keeper? Who knows? But
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  are these players, uh, do you think these guys will get called up
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  for for the Ajuti for come come June? Or are these guys still in
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  the cusp or they are at starters? Like where do you kind of see
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  you? I think Italians, uh, you know, for for this for
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  this upcome hero. I would say Carnasseki probably not. I think we have
• 1:08:40
  enough depth on the Italian national He's he's a great shot stopper. He's had
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  a great season. He's taken the number one from one Musso this season.
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  But he's got bricks for feet. You can't you can't have that. He's
• 1:08:53
  got to get better, like we haven't had a Musso is kind of the
• 1:08:56
  same, but Cardisseki is just a better shot stopper and better in the box
• 1:09:02
  then than Musso is. So I don't think it's quite ready for Carnaseki yet.
• 1:09:06
  And I think Vicario and Dona Ruma obviously are the locks for the one
• 1:09:11
  two at the goalkeeper position. And then you got guys who even the Gregorio
• 1:09:16
  from Mons I think is looking pretty good. You know, there's a couple
• 1:09:19
  of things, so maybe he'll eat into that. Third thought, Scalvini should
• 1:09:24
  be on the cusp for me. I think if Spalletti feels like playing three
• 1:09:28
  center backs, you got to put Skelvini in there. If your plan is
• 1:09:31
  to go four at the back instead of three at the back, then maybe
• 1:09:34
  maybe not. I think there's been some rumors that that's how he'll go,
• 1:09:38
  even though that's not We're not used to Spiletti playing with three at the back.
• 1:09:42
  Uh. And then Skamaka is a lock. I think I think you
• 1:09:45
  have to have Scamaka, whether or not he becomes the starter, like you
• 1:09:50
  have to have a player like him, especially on this form. I mean,
• 1:09:56
  let's fascically, he got hot after Spalletti like didn't didn't call him up
• 1:09:59
  for those friends at least right, so he wasn't happy about it. I
• 1:10:02
  mean he did the whole like you know thing in the game, in the
• 1:10:05
  game actually, so clearly you know he's motivated. And there's no other striker
• 1:10:14
  like Schamaca right now for the Italian national team. You have to pick Samaka.
• 1:10:18
  Scamacha's not picked Speletti's making a huge mistake. So I think Carnaseki,
• 1:10:24
  no, Scaldini maybe and Scamaka absolutely. Do you have any expectations for the
• 1:10:31
  Azuri this summer, Yeah, I think they need to not embarrass us is
• 1:10:38
  what needs to happen first and foremost, because as soon as they need to
• 1:10:43
  qualify for the knockout stages, because it's a different a Zuri team, I
• 1:10:45
  think the group stage is going to be the difficult, you know, trying
• 1:10:48
  to to figure themselves out. If they get out of the group stage and
• 1:10:53
  get a favorable draw in the first round of the knockouts, then Italian national
• 1:10:58
  teams are different when it comes to the knockout stages. It's those group stages
• 1:11:01
  that can make or break us. So make it out alive, play some
• 1:11:05
  decent, attractive football, and then once you get there, you gotta go
• 1:11:10
  deep semi finals or bust. For me, if we don't do that.
• 1:11:15
  It's not successful going in there defending champions. So listen, you gotta you
• 1:11:19
  gotta, you gotta honor that. I think. Yeah, we can't kno
• 1:11:24
  play it, you know, so wow, throw that in there. Throw
• 1:11:33
  it in. Oh sorry, after we share our RATCID moment together where it's
• 1:11:40
  like a dinner concert and we had a moment to Britay, you stabulated,
• 1:11:45
  that's it, and that was Johnny. I was just stabbing half of you,
• 1:11:49
  so he's right back. You gotta pick. I would never stab both
• 1:11:56
  of you at the same time, So that's fair. That's fair. I
• 1:12:00
  what was that movie where character like twenty three split personalities? Oh my god,
• 1:12:06
  multiplicity. No, No, it was like a thriller film where it's
• 1:12:13
  like, oh, this person's coming to the light now and it's like,
• 1:12:15
  oh, this is Patricia or whatever, blah blah blah anyways, whatever,
• 1:12:18
  long story short, I'd be like, oh, I have like nineteen different
• 1:12:23
  personalities right now. It's ninety different fans. The one that doesn't support is
• 1:12:27
  you, mate. I'm just kidding. I would shut it, joke fell
• 1:12:30
  flat. I'm just gonna shut up and just let you have the floor.
• 1:12:33
  Dan, don't worry. We're a gracious audience, Johnny, don't perfect time
• 1:12:42
  for Dan to have befloor as we wrap up. I know you know we've
• 1:12:45
  talked to you before. You've talked to us about your podcast, talk to
• 1:12:47
  us about your your Twitter account. But for new listeners who've never heard you
• 1:12:51
  before, where can they find you and your podcast on social media? Yeah,
• 1:12:58
  the podcast is on hiatus and share. My podcast partner, Nick has
• 1:13:01
  his first child and I've been on the road. So what a horrible year
• 1:13:04
  for us to pause our podcast. But yeah, there's good reasons there.
• 1:13:12
  I always say for those of those people who have never done like any sports
• 1:13:15
  or team of team specific podcasting before, we don't get paid crap for this.
• 1:13:20
  You know, this is a passion project. I always have to tip
• 1:13:23
  my hat to you. Guys were doing this for years and years and years.
• 1:13:28
  That's amazing. You guys have the advantage of like not having families right
• 1:13:31
  now or well, well clearly you have your priorities straight so I but you
• 1:13:43
  know, we we are the we are the only English language that not the
• 1:13:46
  specific podcast. I'm hoping to be back in the summer. Nick, my
• 1:13:54
  podcast partner, he's in the States, too. He's actually in North Carolina.
• 1:13:58
  He's got a great website that he's started back writing again dot Com.
• 1:14:03
  That's a great place to be able to get to know the team and understand
• 1:14:08
  the tactics, how we feel as fans like Nick has a very very good,
• 1:14:12
  measured take on tactics and you know, just the general life of being
• 1:14:17
  a long suffering at the Latino. And you can follow me Atlanta, Underscore,
• 1:14:21
  Vegas. My Twitter account is it's mostly for fun there. Once we
• 1:14:28
  get back into podcasting in the summer, we'll get a lot more content there.
• 1:14:32
  So uh yeah, no, I always love coming to talk to you
• 1:14:35
  guys. You know, you know North America, Seriah lovers unite as always.
• 1:14:42
  So I really appreciate you guys having me on. Nick. Thank you
• 1:14:44
  for being such a gracious winner. I almost feel like you're just so used
• 1:14:48
  to it, you know, even though it's been three years. Three years,
• 1:14:53
  three years. Oh no, it's all as if like some of us
• 1:14:56
  had to like wait to see if one team when it's with that though,
• 1:14:59
  but or some of them are still waiting. We have one of you have
• 1:15:02
  seen a trophy, Jenny, both your teams. I want a trophy Adri's
• 1:15:06
  teams want a trophy ever since my team last one the trophy. So give
• 1:15:11
  me the cookie. Okay, Yeah, you've you've had enough cookies, you've
• 1:15:14
  stolen enough. Yeah. I was about to say we're good, We're good.
• 1:15:18
  I told you on Twitter, Dick, like you know, you're like,
• 1:15:21
  you know, this might be last you see in a few years,
• 1:15:24
  and I was like, try sixty one sixty one, But that's okay morning,
• 1:15:34
  never give up, you know. So uh yeah, No, I
• 1:15:39
  appreciate you guys a lot. Keep doing what you're doing. We appreciate,
• 1:15:42
  we appreciate you. Uh. You know, you've been a you've been a
• 1:15:45
  supporter and and and a friend of ours, you know, pretty much from
• 1:15:48
  the beginning. We're grateful enough to have met you along the way on this
• 1:15:51
  on our journey. Uh and really you're kind of our go to ATA guy
• 1:15:57
  currently, so we're yeah, so listen, take take the compliment. We
• 1:16:03
  appreciate you every time you come on, so knowledgeable not only about Atanta but
• 1:16:09
  the but you know the game as a whole, the italianational team, everything
• 1:16:12
  in between. So guys, go give Dan uh you know, the the
• 1:16:15
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• 1:16:36
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• 1:16:40
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