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DIDDY TO SELL OUT MADISON SQUARE GARDEN? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Did he to sell out Madison Square Gardens over my
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Speaker 2: cold dead body? I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
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Speaker 2: I want to thank you for being with us. Guess
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Speaker 2: what did? He doesn't like being behind bars? Where are
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Speaker 2: Seawn comes?
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Speaker 1: Right now?
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Speaker 3: He's in jail.
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Speaker 2: Oh okay, So he didn't get off and that's a
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Speaker 2: very poor choice of words.
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Speaker 1: So he didn't get off.
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Speaker 2: He's behind bars Madison Square Garden.
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Speaker 1: That's a jolt to the system. Whoa wa wah, wha wait.
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Speaker 4: Let me refresh that question to Rob Shooter joining us,
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Speaker 4: former publicist for Sean Combs, p R guru, host of
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Speaker 4: Naughty but Nice podcast at Robshooter dot substack dot com.
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Speaker 1: Did I get it all, Rob Shooter? Or need I
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Speaker 1: go on? He is still behind bars?
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 1: Yes, that's a yes?
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Speaker 3: Absolutely Okay?
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Speaker 2: Then how is he planning a sellout at Madison Square Garden.
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Speaker 3: In the world of Dida, reality often isn't something that
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Speaker 3: he considers. What he's talking about here is that when
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Speaker 3: he finally can do this, he wants to do a
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Speaker 3: big comeback show. And we should take credit here. Nancy.
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Speaker 3: We broke this story four or five weeks ago on
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Speaker 3: your show. On this show, we broke this story. Sources
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Speaker 3: were telling me that he's planning a massive comeback. He
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Speaker 3: thinks he has won this Nancy and when he finally
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Speaker 3: can get out of jail, we don't know how long
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Speaker 3: that's going to be. Don't expect him to disappear. He's
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Speaker 3: going to come back with a bank.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: What I'm saying, Shooter, is that to appear at Madison
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Speaker 2: Square Garden, you.
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Speaker 1: Have to pre plan. You have to get your show together.
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Speaker 2: You've got to get your songs, you've got to get
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Speaker 2: your backup, you got to get your musicians, you got
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Speaker 2: to get sure pyrotechnics or whatever you're going to do,
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Speaker 2: and you have to get tickets out there. And he's
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Speaker 2: actually doing it.
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Speaker 1: Listen.
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Speaker 5: He said to me, he's going to be back in
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Speaker 5: Madison Square Guarden doing what I guess, being on stage,
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Speaker 5: you know. I mean then I said I'll be there.
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Speaker 5: I mean, I wasn't going to be right in the front.
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Speaker 5: So we'll see, we'll make it happen.
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Speaker 6: Sean Diddy. Colmbs is apparently planning a resurrection tour, telling
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Speaker 6: his attorneys he plans to eventually sell out Madison Square Garden.
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Speaker 2: Again, that's the defense attorney Agniffilow talking to our friends
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Speaker 2: at CBS, and yes, I pooh poohed him when he
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Speaker 2: was part of comparing Sean Combs to MLK and going on, hey,
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Speaker 2: let's pull up that clip from him duking it out
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Speaker 2: with Harvey Levin. It wasn't much of a duke fast
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Speaker 2: because Levin was throwing him softballs, which he missed, by
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Speaker 2: the way, But I got to give the devil is due.
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Speaker 2: He did get Diddy off on three the five felony counts,
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Speaker 2: and now he's back talking about selling out Madison Square
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Speaker 2: Garden joining me an all star panel. But first two
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Speaker 2: TASA Tales, joining us investigative reporter. She's a star of
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Speaker 2: Tasa Tales on YouTube. Tisa what exactly, Nancy?
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Speaker 3: What in the world?
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Speaker 1: Listen.
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Speaker 7: One funny thing that came out there is did He's
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Speaker 7: My sourcers.
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Speaker 8: Are telling me that Didny's team is putting it out
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Speaker 8: there because he needs to prove to the public, to
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Speaker 8: himself and even a Trump to get that pardon that
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Speaker 8: he is still.
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Speaker 9: Loved the fact that his lawyer got on TV and
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Speaker 9: said he's going to be on Madison Square Garden Now,
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Speaker 9: if you look at his record cells, if you look
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Speaker 9: at his concert sales, if you look at.
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Speaker 7: The way his last album flopped, it's laughable.
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Speaker 8: However, keep in mind it was so laughable and oddly
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Speaker 8: enough and enraged the.
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Speaker 7: Public and victims so much that Diddy's.
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Speaker 8: Team the next day had to do a PR walk
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Speaker 8: back saying, oh, no, no, no, no, no, Maybe not Madison Square Garden.
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Speaker 8: I think he's just going to focus on being a
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Speaker 8: father to his children. And by children, I mean the
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Speaker 8: three boys that are pushing thirty years old, and of
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Speaker 8: course the girls that are at a young age, but
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Speaker 8: at eighteen years old. Diddy's team is a little bit
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Speaker 8: shaken up the way that he kind of thought that
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Speaker 8: if he beat these charges, he was going to be
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Speaker 8: walking back in and embraced by these open arms. Maybe
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Speaker 8: his PR team PR is a little bit too hard,
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Speaker 8: and did he started believing his own height.
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Speaker 7: But he was my sourcier saying, Diddy's team was shocked
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Speaker 7: at the level of anger that that Madison Square Garden
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Speaker 7: actually invoked. With the general public. You're in there telling us.
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Speaker 8: You're going to be the Martin Luther King of domestic
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Speaker 8: violence and free everybody from their evil thoughts.
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Speaker 7: You're saying you're going to make a difference. You're telling
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Speaker 7: us you're repented, you're going to take.
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Speaker 8: Time to think, and within what was it, not even
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Speaker 8: two fourteen business days, you've thrown all that out and
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Speaker 8: you're sitting there bragging to everyone before the judge even
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Speaker 8: has said that you're going to be up on Madison
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Speaker 8: Square Garden again. A lot of people took that as
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Speaker 8: a threat, and it looks like Diddy's team is trying
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Speaker 8: to walk that back into something that looks more family friendly.
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Speaker 2: Okay, they may be doing that, but Kat's out of
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Speaker 2: the bag. They've already made it public. He plans to
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Speaker 2: sell out MSG to doctor Bethany Marshall, joining us renown
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Speaker 2: psycho analyst out of La, author of deal Breaker on Amazon.
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Speaker 2: You can see her on Peacock and find her at
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Speaker 2: doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Doctor Bethany. I'm going to
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Speaker 2: go in a moment to Danny Pinter, who is with
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Speaker 2: the National Center on Sex Exploitation. But it just rubs
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Speaker 2: me the wrong way, all right, Yes, I know. Agnifilo
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Speaker 2: and his team got Diddy off on three charges. He's
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Speaker 2: still convicted on two felonies. I know that, but I
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Speaker 2: saw the Cassie Ventior tape. I know what the victim said,
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Speaker 2: and there are many many more victims that the state
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Speaker 2: did not use. And that's on them all right. I
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Speaker 2: was told over and over as a trial lawyer, overkill, overkill,
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Speaker 2: you're putting up too much evidence to get a conviction.
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Speaker 1: How do you know that until after the trial.
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Speaker 2: You have one swing at the ball, one bite of
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Speaker 2: the apple, and if you don't go all the way,
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Speaker 2: you could lose the case. I think there was a
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Speaker 2: lot more victims. There were a lot more victims, and
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Speaker 2: there was a lot more evidence.
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Speaker 1: They could have put up. They paired their.
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Speaker 2: Case down, and now they're reaping what they sewed. That said,
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Speaker 2: we know what the evidence is, Bethany. We know about
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Speaker 2: all the civil lawsuits. Even if you throw out half
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Speaker 2: of them, Even if you throw out half, you've.
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Speaker 1: Still got dozens and dozens of women.
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Speaker 2: That say they were drugged and raped at these parties,
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Speaker 2: the free Coughs.
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Speaker 1: I saw what happened to Cassie. I saw the bruises.
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Speaker 2: I heard the stories of when one victim would vomit
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Speaker 2: after being paddled to multiple male sex workers.
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Speaker 1: He would put it right back.
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Speaker 2: Into the free cough, put on some makeup over those bruises,
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Speaker 2: and get back in the ring.
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Speaker 1: I know all that.
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Speaker 2: And for him to be bragging he's going to sell
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Speaker 2: out Madison Square Garden, it's offensive.
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Speaker 1: It's offensive, Nancy.
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Speaker 7: And everybody who would attend that concert, I don't believe
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Speaker 7: that concert will ever take place, would be somebody who
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Speaker 7: does collude with sex trafficking. Who's going to show up
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Speaker 7: at that concert. You know the fact that he did.
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Speaker 7: He is saying this means he has absolutely no remorse
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Speaker 7: for his actions. The fact that Mark Agniffolo is going
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Speaker 7: on TV and slow rolling the truth about Madison Square Gardens.
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Speaker 7: I heard him talking to Harvey Levin and he said, oh,
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Speaker 7: Madison Square dot Garden says way down the road, and
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Speaker 7: now he's just going to focus on being with his children.
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Speaker 7: It's just a big fat lie, Nancy. You know who
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Speaker 7: Agnifilo is not mentioning the victims. He actually said to
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Speaker 7: Harvey Levin that Gina, the third victim, is now coming
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Speaker 7: out and saying that she did not feel abused by
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Speaker 7: P Diddy.
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Speaker 1: It is so laughable.
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Speaker 7: It's like the lie is being perpetuated in Nancy. The
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Speaker 7: research shows that men.
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Speaker 1: Commit in just a few moments.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to explain the impact that Gina is having
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Speaker 2: right now, and I've gotten her on tape complaining as
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Speaker 2: she should have about being forced to have an abortion
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Speaker 2: at least one abortion. Isn't it odd how people change
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Speaker 2: their tune? But that said msg Masile Square Garden bragging
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Speaker 2: about headlining there at a sellout tour to Danny Pinter
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Speaker 2: joining me, VP director at Law Center National Center six
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Speaker 2: Xploit two. Danny, I remember trying rape cases, many many
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Speaker 2: many rape cases, and I guess I can throw child
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Speaker 2: l station into the same pot to stew and I
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Speaker 2: would sit there waiting on the verdict, feeling like if
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Speaker 2: I got a not guilty, I would have let down
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Speaker 2: these women who had already been through so much, many
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Speaker 2: of them beaten a lot of times, people would break in.
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Speaker 1: Their home, some of them were date rapes.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's just you know, the whole gamut of
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Speaker 2: ways a woman can be brutalized, and very often the
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Speaker 2: same thing with child lestation. I would sit there waiting
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Speaker 2: and you know, putting on a brave face, thinking if
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Speaker 2: this goes bad, they're going to walk out of this courtroom,
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Speaker 2: and they will never have gotten justice, and it will
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Speaker 2: be my fault, and they will go the rest of
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Speaker 2: their lives feeling like nobody cared and nobody believed them.
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Speaker 2: The women in this case already feel that way because
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Speaker 2: of the three not guilties on three camps. Absolutely MSG,
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Speaker 2: MSG Mass the square Garden, that's what he's bragging about.
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Speaker 1: It's so offensive.
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Speaker 10: If this is a narcissist who's been empowered by this
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Speaker 10: unfortunately failed prosecution, right now he feels more powerful than ever.
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Speaker 7: That's what it looks like to me. And it's so
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Speaker 7: telling that it's turned right back around to me, me, me, me.
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Speaker 10: He thinks he can do anything, and he's showing absolutely
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Speaker 10: no concern for the victims at all. And the fact
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Speaker 10: that his lawyers aren't even in tune with how bad
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Speaker 10: this is going to play for him and he hasn't
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Speaker 10: even gone to sentencing is disturbing, to say the least.
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Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that. Hey, judge, are you listening?
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Speaker 2: Are you listening all that BS? I'm talking directly to you, judge,
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Speaker 2: all that BS about how he's going to be an
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Speaker 2: anti domestic violence advocate, how he's going to spend more
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Speaker 2: time with his children and start a new leaf, turn
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Speaker 2: over a new leaf. What he's doing is planning a
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Speaker 2: sellout tour at MSG. That's what's happening, Judge in your backyard. Now,
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Speaker 2: let's see what you do at sentencing. Are you gonna
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Speaker 2: buy what he's selling? In court with his grandpa? Did
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Speaker 2: he look.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace?
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Speaker 2: You know, to Rob Shooter what Danny Pinter and doctor
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Speaker 2: Bethany Marshall said is a little scary.
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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why, Shooter, because it could happen.
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Speaker 2: It's like the trial didn't happen, The attacks on Cassie,
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Speaker 2: the attacks on all these women, the rapes, none of
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Speaker 2: it happened. If he can go and start at MSG,
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Speaker 2: it's like nothing mattered, nothing mattered.
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Speaker 1: Do you understand what I'm I mean?
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Speaker 2: I know you're all about pr but think about these
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Speaker 2: victims and rape victims all around the world.
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Speaker 1: If they see.
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Speaker 2: Diddy there at MSG on the stage, what does that mean?
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Speaker 3: It's heartbreaking? Nancy, You're absolutely right, and that's why people
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Speaker 3: like you and me the panel have to keep talking
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Speaker 3: about this. This story is not over. Did he won't
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Speaker 3: allow this story to be over? For the rest of
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Speaker 3: his life. We have to remind people of that PASSI tape.
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Speaker 3: We have to speak out. We've lost the first round, Nancy.
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Speaker 3: He is empowered, he's emboldened. He is not going away.
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Speaker 3: But we have to think of these victims and other victims.
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Speaker 3: But this garden, this Madison Square garden, Nancy, my sources
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Speaker 3: tell me, and we broke it on your show. Not
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Speaker 3: only is it happening, it is going to be massive.
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Speaker 3: They predict it might be more than one night. There's
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Speaker 3: going to be special guests on the lineup, including potentially
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Speaker 3: Kanye West. He is gonna make a splash here. It's
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Speaker 3: going to be really difficult for us to watch, but
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Speaker 3: we have to because it is going to happen.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Troy Slayton, Joinie Slayton, as much hbl as
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Speaker 2: I give him, is a veteran trial lawyer.
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Speaker 1: He's won a lot of cases. Do I like it?
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Speaker 7: No?
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Speaker 1: Is it true?
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Speaker 2: Yes, he's renowned LA criminal defense attorney Slaton.
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Speaker 3: Just like.
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Speaker 2: You hear Shooter talking about pr and appearances. I'm sure
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Speaker 2: you tell your clients when they go in court, at
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Speaker 2: least act interested, act like you're taking notes, dress up
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Speaker 2: as much as you can don't look like a slob,
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Speaker 2: don't look evil, don't look menacing, and don't scare the
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Speaker 2: jury with freaky looks. I'm sure you tell them all
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Speaker 2: of that. Like, you know, look at the O. J.
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Speaker 2: Simpson trial. Simpson looked like, you know, a male model
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Speaker 2: sitting there taking know.
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Speaker 1: It's looking studious.
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Speaker 2: I think he even got the Bible out that said,
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Speaker 2: isn't this kind of a bad look?
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Speaker 1: Before sentencing? Instead of talking about all the good.
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Speaker 2: Things you're going to do when you get out to
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Speaker 2: help other people, you're talking about a sellout toward MSG.
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Speaker 11: Of course, you want to explain all the uh mitigating
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Speaker 11: factors to a judge, because that's what the judge is
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Speaker 11: Wayne at the time of sentencing. But is a person
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Speaker 11: once they've been convicted and done their time and gotten
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Speaker 11: out of jail, are they supposed to just hide under
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Speaker 11: a rock or are they allowed to create art?
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Speaker 3: He was an artist there.
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Speaker 12: I can think of other people that did horrible things,
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Speaker 12: you know, Woody Allen, Roman, Polanski, others that did horrible
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Speaker 12: things maybe, And yet yet John.
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Speaker 1: Wayne said he's an artist too.
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Speaker 2: Remember remember John Wayne Gacy, the killer clo He says
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Speaker 2: he's an artist.
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Speaker 1: So is Jody.
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Speaker 11: This was a failed prosecution and that means nothing. Sometimes
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Speaker 11: a jury gets it wrong, sometimes a jury gets it right.
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Speaker 13: But that's our system.
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Speaker 11: Just because a jury came out with a verdict that
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Speaker 11: you don't.
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Speaker 1: I ask you question and you go off all the system.
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Speaker 1: What's next? Are you going to spout out the constitution?
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Speaker 2: I asked you, Nancy, this is a bad look.
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Speaker 1: He's supposed to be helping other people.
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Speaker 2: Nobody said high under a rock and you said when
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Speaker 2: he gets out of jail, he's not.
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Speaker 14: If he's able to jail, if he's able to earn money,
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Speaker 14: then he's able to better help the community, better help
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Speaker 14: his family, better help others. I mean, he's even talked
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Speaker 14: about wanting to be a sex victims counselor.
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Speaker 1: A sex victims counselor doctor Bethany Marshall, did you just
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Speaker 1: hear that.
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Speaker 2: That Sean comm says he wants to be a sex
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Speaker 2: victims counselor You.
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Speaker 1: Know what, Nancy, that's what I do.
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Speaker 2: Give this sex victim of drink and say down it, honey,
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Speaker 2: and ignore they what gh being it? I mean that
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Speaker 2: has everybody love like mine is like a case settler.
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Speaker 7: This is like Casey Anthony saying she's going to work
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Speaker 7: on behalf of missing unexploited children. They try to get
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Speaker 7: on the other side in a grandiose way of the
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Speaker 7: crime and portray themselves as the savior. You know what
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Speaker 7: I think is motivating this Madison Street Garden concert. It's
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Speaker 7: a good way to procure victims. What better way to
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Speaker 7: find future victims to a cost to attack, to sex traffic,
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Speaker 7: to domestically abuse than to throw a huge concert and
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Speaker 7: send your minions out into the audience and find fans,
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Speaker 7: find adoring fans. Nancy, he needs to put the band
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Speaker 7: back together again in terms of his whole weekness he was.
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Speaker 1: Accused of rico.
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Speaker 7: He's going to have a team that helps him throw
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Speaker 7: this concert. And this team could be employed for all
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Speaker 7: kinds of purposes, not just singing and holding a mic.
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Speaker 2: You know, I was earlier playing where the defense attorney
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Speaker 2: Agniffilo was talking about Seawan Combs appearing at Madison Square Garden. Yes,
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Speaker 2: many underestimated him when he appeared on Harvey Levin's show
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Speaker 2: on t MZ, and this is why listen they.
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Speaker 1: Called them freak ops.
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Speaker 5: But you know, back when I was a kid in
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Speaker 5: the late seventies, they were called threesomes.
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Speaker 14: If these are genuinely threesomes, how do you explain a
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Speaker 14: thousand bottles of baby oil?
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Speaker 5: I don't know where the number one thousand came.
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Speaker 3: The US attorney said, I can't.
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Speaker 1: Imagine it's thousands.
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Speaker 15: I mean, you know, and I'm not really sure what
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Speaker 15: the baby oil has to do with anything.
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Speaker 14: They're essentially saying it's a lubricant for an orgy.
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Speaker 15: I guess I don't know what you need A thousand.
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Speaker 15: One bottle of baby oil goes a long way. I
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Speaker 15: don't know what you need to need a thousand for.
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Speaker 15: I mean, he has a big house. He buys in bulk,
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Speaker 15: you know. I think they have costcos in every place
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Speaker 15: where he has a home. I mean, have you sat
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Speaker 15: in a parking lot of a Costco and see what
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Speaker 15: people walk out of there with?
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Speaker 3: Not a thousand bottles of baby oil.
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Speaker 15: I don't think it was a thousand.
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Speaker 1: I think it was. I think it was a let's
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Speaker 1: just say it's a lie.
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Speaker 3: Okay, that is.
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Speaker 2: From my friend Harvey Levin Ever at TMC shooter help me.
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Speaker 2: Harvey Levin practically had to spell l U b R
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Speaker 2: I C a anti lubricunt. This is the guy that
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Speaker 2: masterminded getting Sean Combs off three counts. I think, yes,
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Speaker 2: maybe it was TS. I find it really hard to
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Speaker 2: give him credit.
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Speaker 3: It's so shocking in life. This goes against everything that
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Speaker 3: we believe in that we work for. I used to
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Speaker 3: believe that if you work really hard, if you're the
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Speaker 3: best at what you do, then you in. This has
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Speaker 3: turned that upside down. This clearly wasn't a pretty good defense.
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Speaker 3: In fact, it was pretty terrible. But they managed the
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Speaker 3: three three largest charges here. So there's something with us, Nancy.
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Speaker 3: It's not them. We got this wrong.
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Speaker 2: Aside from his bumblings with Harvey Levin, this is what
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Speaker 2: Agnifilo is saying now.
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Speaker 1: And he's not the only one.
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Speaker 2: Rob Shooter broke it here weeks ago about Madison Square Garden.
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Speaker 2: Take a listen to Agnifilo speaking to CBS.
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Speaker 5: He said to me, he's be back in Madison Square
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Speaker 5: Garden doing what I guess, being on stage, you know.
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Speaker 5: I mean then I said, I'll be there. I mean,
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Speaker 5: I wan't going to be right right in the front.
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Speaker 5: So we'll see, we'll make it happen.
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Speaker 6: Sean Diddy Colmbs is apparently planning a resurrection tour, telling
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Speaker 6: his attorneys he plans to eventually sell out Madison Square
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Speaker 6: Garden again from Cbs, he feels.
19:49
Speaker 3: Like a winner. It will prove to him what he thinks,
19:52
Speaker 3: which is he is above the Lord, that he is special,
19:55
Speaker 3: that he is a wizard. I think a lot of
19:57
Speaker 3: people should be should be worried. This is a very
20:00
Speaker 3: dangerous mon Did we.
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Speaker 1: Want to tell you about me?
20:04
Speaker 13: So?
20:04
Speaker 1: What should I go? Hide to my soap? A secret
20:06
Speaker 1: lay up, hide from Diddy?
20:10
Speaker 2: All that business about helping domestic assault victims, opening up
20:15
Speaker 2: a shelter, getting closer to his children that he has
20:19
Speaker 2: ignored for the.
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Speaker 1: Last couple of decades. Yeah, forget all that now.
20:24
Speaker 2: Combs is focused on selling out Madison Square Garden.
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Speaker 1: But along the way he's whining.
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Speaker 6: Listen, did he whinds about inhumane conditions at the MDC
20:38
Speaker 6: cleaning His meals consists of expired or maggot infested food.
20:42
Speaker 6: His attorneys point out that conditions are unlikely to improve
20:46
Speaker 6: with recent budget cuts. Judge Supermanei encounters Combs acknowledges MDC
20:51
Speaker 6: staff has met his needs and kept him safe while
20:54
Speaker 6: he won't be released prior to sentencing. His next argument
20:58
Speaker 6: maybe that he can serve out his sentence and his
21:00
Speaker 6: cushy Miami mansion where numerous freak offs took place.
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Speaker 2: So back to the scene of the crime, joining me
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Speaker 2: now a special guest, Doctor Dwayne Hendrix, former Warden MDC,
21:12
Speaker 2: also shared an Oregon former senior Warden US Department of Justice,
21:16
Speaker 2: Federal Bureau of Prisons. It goes on and on and on.
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Speaker 2: President New Daylight Foundation and author who are you see it?
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Speaker 1: Say it? Sees it? Doctor Hendrix? What say you about
21:31
Speaker 1: Seawan comes this claim, I don't look this food.
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Speaker 13: Wait, I say what I've been saying for the last
21:38
Speaker 13: ten months. He just needs to be quiet. He needs
21:40
Speaker 13: to focus on his sentencing and all these different mixed
21:45
Speaker 13: messages from his attorneys about a party, about the conditions
21:49
Speaker 13: of the facility, about blaming the victims, and all this
21:53
Speaker 13: other stuff. He just needs to focus on what's going
21:57
Speaker 13: to happen in front of him. You know the thing
21:59
Speaker 13: that really pis me off about all of this. If
22:02
Speaker 13: he really wants to make a difference, he really wants
22:04
Speaker 13: to take ownership of his actions, he needs to have
22:06
Speaker 13: some skin in the game, and he's not going to
22:08
Speaker 13: have any skin in the game until he is sentenced.
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Speaker 13: That is the only time that he's really going to
22:13
Speaker 13: be able to say, Okay, I did something. I'm going
22:17
Speaker 13: to do my time whatever that is and move on.
22:20
Speaker 13: And as far as him trying to do his time
22:22
Speaker 13: at home, it's not going to happen. He can only
22:25
Speaker 13: serve up to ten percent of his sentence on home confinement.
22:29
Speaker 13: The only way that would change is that they give
22:31
Speaker 13: him a deal sort of like they gave Juleene Maxwell,
22:34
Speaker 13: where they allowed her to go to a camp a
22:37
Speaker 13: couple of years ahead of her her time doing ten
22:39
Speaker 13: years or twelve years at a camp versus ten. So
22:43
Speaker 13: in terms of the attorneys using low hanging fruit that
22:47
Speaker 13: bears no nutrition, talking about box mills and sack sack
22:51
Speaker 13: mills with maggots, let me tell you something right now,
22:54
Speaker 13: if someone served an inmate a meal with maggots, it
22:57
Speaker 13: would be criminal and more inmates would be complaining. Here's
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Speaker 13: the other thing in it. I'm gonna leave it right here.
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Speaker 13: Why is he not talking advocating for his other inmates
23:08
Speaker 13: in there? He's only talking about himself. Why is he
23:11
Speaker 13: talking about prison reform at the middle of that bad
23:14
Speaker 13: Why don't he talk about prison reform other than just
23:18
Speaker 13: being an abuse counselor, which will never ever happen.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Dwayne Hendrix, I believe you said.
23:23
Speaker 2: I'm going to leave it right there, but I know
23:25
Speaker 2: you're used to being the big warden at MDC. You're
23:28
Speaker 2: in Nancy Land now and you're not going anywhere until
23:31
Speaker 2: I'm through with you. And I am not through with
23:33
Speaker 2: you because I want to follow up on something you
23:35
Speaker 2: said that had not occurred to me.
23:37
Speaker 1: And I can't believe Bethany.
23:38
Speaker 2: Marshall has been all over this still saying he didn't
23:42
Speaker 2: do it, instead of taking any responsibility at all. I
23:48
Speaker 2: will throw that to Bethany in a moment, but I
23:49
Speaker 2: want to follow up on this maggot infested food claim, now,
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Speaker 2: doctor Hendrix, isn't it true?
23:55
Speaker 1: You're a former.
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Speaker 2: Warden at m Mother d Dog Capital MDC in Brooklyn.
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Speaker 1: Isn't that true?
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Speaker 13: Yes, it is true.
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Speaker 2: And isn't that where Sean comes is now the MDC
24:10
Speaker 2: your former workplace.
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Speaker 13: Right, yes, ma'am, Yes, and.
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Speaker 2: He is accusing your workplace of serving maggot infested food. Now,
24:21
Speaker 2: you said that would be a crime, And I got
24:23
Speaker 2: to tell you something, doctor Hendricks. I've been in so
24:25
Speaker 2: many sea eyes, jails, youth facilities, GV jails, halfway houses, rehabs,
24:32
Speaker 2: you name it. Typically looking for witnesses that said, I've
24:35
Speaker 2: seen the food.
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Speaker 1: I've eaten the food. I never saw anything like that.
24:39
Speaker 2: And I've been in jails and seais all over this country.
24:43
Speaker 2: Never have I seen anything like that. Explain what you
24:47
Speaker 2: meant when you said that would be criminal?
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Speaker 13: Okay, So a sack launcher we call a box miil
24:53
Speaker 13: when they're the operation been shut down, whether it be
24:56
Speaker 13: through a COVID outbreak or an incident at the institution.
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Speaker 13: We don't serve inmates hot meals. We give them box
25:03
Speaker 13: mill what we call a sack lunch, which will be
25:05
Speaker 13: something like a bread, a processed meat such as a
25:08
Speaker 13: baloney sandwich, or a cake you know, in a bag
25:12
Speaker 13: or something like that, or maybe even a powdered drink. Okay, However,
25:16
Speaker 13: and again those are less than edible than the meals
25:19
Speaker 13: that they serve on a daily basis. But in no way,
25:23
Speaker 13: shape or form will someone an inmate because it may
25:26
Speaker 13: serve the other inmates. There's no way another inmate will
25:29
Speaker 13: pass on a meal to another inmate with maggots in it.
25:34
Speaker 13: So again I've questioned some about box meals in the
25:37
Speaker 13: past in terms of how edible they may or may
25:40
Speaker 13: not be. But in no way, shape or form a
25:43
Speaker 13: maggot will be ever served.
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Speaker 2: What do you mean by that? What do you mean
25:46
Speaker 2: you question the box meals in the past? What do
25:48
Speaker 2: you mean you question them?
25:50
Speaker 1: Look, I don't want them maggots, Okay, I understand.
25:55
Speaker 13: That, because they are, I mean, and that's why they
25:57
Speaker 13: can only eat box meals for three days. After that
26:01
Speaker 13: they have to have a hot meal, because ultimately he's
26:04
Speaker 13: wrong with the boxed meal.
26:05
Speaker 1: What do you think was wrong?
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Speaker 8: What?
26:06
Speaker 1: It just didn't taste good?
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Speaker 13: No, they have no nutritional value. And if you if
26:10
Speaker 13: you have a person in there with diabetes or any
26:13
Speaker 13: other pronic.
26:13
Speaker 2: Issue, so suddenly Twitter, you're worried about nutritional value.
26:17
Speaker 1: So your con was the nutritional value? Do I have
26:22
Speaker 1: that right?
26:23
Speaker 16: You have that right?
26:24
Speaker 2: Yes, we never seen what Seawan comes is describing doctor Jenner.
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Speaker 13: Ever, I've never seen a maggot or any worms or
26:33
Speaker 13: any other parasites crawling in a meal that is served
26:38
Speaker 13: in a prison.
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Speaker 1: I have not Have you ever eaten the food, Hendrix?
26:41
Speaker 13: Yes I have, And as an executive staff member, we
26:45
Speaker 13: were charged with eating at least one meal during the week,
26:49
Speaker 13: whether it's during the lunch meal or if we're making
26:52
Speaker 13: rounds in the evenings on the weekends, and all the
26:54
Speaker 13: duty officers are.
26:55
Speaker 1: Charged with eating your milky and what was the meal?
26:58
Speaker 1: What did you eat today?
27:00
Speaker 13: They're having spaghetti, they're having what are called school pizza,
27:04
Speaker 13: you know, those little square pizzas we used to get
27:06
Speaker 13: in school. And then they'll have maybe a salad. And
27:10
Speaker 13: if they're on a no flesh meal, they may just
27:13
Speaker 13: have like a peanut butroter and jelly sandwich or some
27:15
Speaker 13: sort of protein, maybe beans or something like that to
27:19
Speaker 13: make up for the nutritional value for those who don't
27:21
Speaker 13: eat meat.
27:22
Speaker 2: Okay, now we're talking about vegetarians, so you have vegetarian
27:26
Speaker 2: meals too.
27:27
Speaker 13: Yes, we have vegetarian bils for religious purposes.
27:30
Speaker 2: Okay, doctor Dwayne Hendrix, I'm going to ask you to
27:32
Speaker 2: go out on a limb. Seawan Comms is saying he
27:37
Speaker 2: is getting maggot infested food at your old work home, MDC.
27:43
Speaker 1: Is he lying?
27:44
Speaker 13: He is lying unless I hear otherwise he is lying
27:48
Speaker 13: because there's no way inmates serve other inmates. You will
27:52
Speaker 13: never do that. And a staff member wouldn't allow that
27:55
Speaker 13: to happen because again, that would be criminal.
27:58
Speaker 2: Okay, between Sean and doctor Dwayne Hendricks, I think I'm
28:02
Speaker 2: going to go with Hendricks. Okay, straight out to Rob
28:05
Speaker 2: Shooter joining us. He practically lived with Sean Combs as
28:10
Speaker 2: his pr guru.
28:11
Speaker 1: Shooter. What would be Diddy's typical breakfast?
28:15
Speaker 3: Ooh did he for? Breakfast? Would have salmon eggs. It
28:20
Speaker 3: would be very very glamorous, maybe a little bit of caviaar,
28:24
Speaker 3: maybe even some lobster. So he would eat very very
28:27
Speaker 3: well throughout the day. It would all be prepared by
28:29
Speaker 3: a private chef. He had a private chef that lived
28:32
Speaker 3: with him, and also too, he did enjoy going to
28:35
Speaker 3: a restaurants. I very very very rarely saw him ever
28:38
Speaker 3: eat dinner at home. Five six, seven nights a week.
28:42
Speaker 3: He would be at the top restaurants in New York City,
28:45
Speaker 3: Miami and around the world.
28:46
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, my brain froze at the word caviar? Could
28:51
Speaker 2: you repeat what comes is used to having for breakfast?
28:55
Speaker 3: Puff would eat the best, the most expensive, the most
29:00
Speaker 3: luxurious food in the world, including caviat that had probably
29:05
Speaker 3: been flown in fresh salmon, often flowing in from Alaska.
29:09
Speaker 3: For him, he lived like a king. Nancy.
29:14
Speaker 1: What he got what from Alaska?
29:16
Speaker 3: Fresh salmon would be flowing in from Alaska. Fresh fish.
29:20
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't have that at All's in Kroger.
29:22
Speaker 2: So I don't even know what you're talking about. Okay,
29:25
Speaker 2: fresh salmon flown and from Alaska for him to have
29:28
Speaker 2: for breakfast.
29:28
Speaker 3: You'd better believe it, Dadsie. His meat would be coming
29:32
Speaker 3: from Texas, the freshest food you can imagine. And he'd
29:35
Speaker 3: have a chef to prepare all this for him. He
29:38
Speaker 3: was not much of a cook. I never actually ever
29:40
Speaker 3: saw him in the kitchen. And so he had a chef,
29:43
Speaker 3: a full time chef that lived at his residence and
29:45
Speaker 3: would travel with him. I was on a private plane
29:48
Speaker 3: once with Puff and the chef was on the plane
29:50
Speaker 3: when he flew from New York to Miami to LA
29:53
Speaker 3: That's his plane. A chef would be on that plane,
29:57
Speaker 3: and also too, Nancy. They would serve fine dining on
30:01
Speaker 3: the plane. There was always a lot of food, good
30:04
Speaker 3: food around us.
30:05
Speaker 1: Now did he's whining about his food? Boo? The hey,
30:10
Speaker 1: who did he labor?
30:13
Speaker 7: Blaming the women, blaming the victims. This is as old
30:16
Speaker 7: as time.
30:17
Speaker 2: The women's provoked him to violence.
30:22
Speaker 1: It's their fault.
30:23
Speaker 2: What should they be behind bars? And the choir boy
30:26
Speaker 2: walks three. Yes, his lawyers actually referred to him as
30:30
Speaker 2: a choir boy. Now he claims he's going to sell
30:33
Speaker 2: out MSG Madison Square Garden. But whoa woo wah, wait
30:38
Speaker 2: a minute now coming to Sean Combs.
30:42
Speaker 1: His aid is a woman many of us know as.
30:46
Speaker 2: Victim number three, the woman that complained on air. He
30:52
Speaker 2: forced her into an abortion and mistreated her.
30:56
Speaker 1: We can only ask.
30:57
Speaker 2: Ourselves, why the sod turn, Why the bizarre change of coat,
31:06
Speaker 2: Why now speaking out to help get Sean comes out
31:11
Speaker 2: of jail. I'm talking about the GF girlfriend Gina Federal prosecutor's.
31:17
Speaker 6: Star witness goes Mia. Their attempts to reach Victim three
31:21
Speaker 6: and her attorney failed. The disappearance even more shocking, as
31:25
Speaker 6: prosecutors said Victim three no longer wanted to testify.
31:29
Speaker 17: Tim Zab reports the woman refusing to cooperate. Prosecutors said
31:33
Speaker 17: Victim three would disclose very personal and exclusive details concerning
31:38
Speaker 17: abuse she suffered under calms.
31:40
Speaker 1: And exactly who is Gina listen.
31:44
Speaker 6: Gina is fashion and travel blogger Virginia, who in her
31:48
Speaker 6: relationship with Diddy began on Valentine's Day after a chance
31:51
Speaker 6: meeting in Miami, and she continued to see Combs for
31:54
Speaker 6: about five years, deeply in love with him, despite his
31:58
Speaker 6: relationship with Cassie or break up. In twenty nineteen, Gina
32:02
Speaker 6: gave an emotional interview detailing physical abuse from Colms in
32:06
Speaker 6: two instances where he pressured her into getting an abortion.
32:09
Speaker 18: He was like, you're gonna get an abortion, right, and
32:11
Speaker 18: then I was like, I don't know. Uh, I don't
32:18
Speaker 18: know yet. And then and then he offered me fifty
32:21
Speaker 18: thousand to get rid of it. If you would always
32:24
Speaker 18: compare me to Cassie and tell me that I'm the
32:27
Speaker 18: bad one and she's a good one.
32:30
Speaker 7: And he was with both of you guys at the
32:31
Speaker 7: same time.
32:32
Speaker 18: Yeah, the only person that ever helped me was de Rock.
32:36
Speaker 18: Everyone else just kind of just allowed it to happen
32:42
Speaker 18: and just like, look the other way.
32:44
Speaker 2: That from our friends that Unwine with Tasha Kay on YouTube,
32:54
Speaker 2: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace tells there was the forced abortion.
33:03
Speaker 2: According to the GF girlfriend Gina who in and there
33:10
Speaker 2: is the statement, the only person that helped me was
33:13
Speaker 2: d rock.
33:13
Speaker 1: Everyone else kind of allowed it to happen. I assume
33:16
Speaker 1: that means the beatings and the abuse.
33:18
Speaker 2: So why the sudden screech of the brakes and the
33:24
Speaker 2: U turn. Now she's actually writing letters and petitioning the
33:29
Speaker 2: judge to let Sean comes out of jail.
33:32
Speaker 8: Listen, nobody knows why she's doing it. From both the
33:34
Speaker 8: outside looking in, it seems pretty evident. A lot of
33:38
Speaker 8: people think it might have been a payoff. But my
33:40
Speaker 8: firsts are saying that Gina will always be this man's full.
33:44
Speaker 8: You know, you talk about the interview with Tasha Kaye
33:47
Speaker 8: and you talk about the abortion. This man that was
33:50
Speaker 8: a billionaire offered her five k for an abortion, and
33:54
Speaker 8: you know what Gena's.
33:55
Speaker 7: Response was, She did it for free, and she was.
33:59
Speaker 8: A single month and she did it on her own
34:01
Speaker 8: dime because she didn't want his money.
34:04
Speaker 7: She wanted to be the pro one to prove that
34:06
Speaker 7: all his women his whole hare.
34:08
Speaker 8: She didn't want anything from him but his love, and
34:12
Speaker 8: he knew that, and he waved over her shoulder. Jena
34:15
Speaker 8: Han victim number three, as sad as it is, and
34:19
Speaker 8: I try not to be too judgmental because to me
34:22
Speaker 8: it seems like she is clearly in still the mental abuse. Okay,
34:26
Speaker 8: but she was the lynchpin that I believe made the
34:29
Speaker 8: prosecution's case fall apart.
34:31
Speaker 7: If you go back to that interview, she said exactly.
34:35
Speaker 8: What Cassie said happened to her, and also what Jane
34:39
Speaker 8: said happen to her.
34:40
Speaker 1: He was stomping, beating.
34:42
Speaker 7: Her, kicking her in the stomach. She couldn't breathe. She
34:44
Speaker 7: was begging him, please stop, please stop, I can't breathe.
34:48
Speaker 8: He then, being such the gentleman, turned around and started
34:52
Speaker 8: wailing on her head and beating the mess out of her.
34:56
Speaker 1: On her head.
34:57
Speaker 8: He was dragging her down halls by her here he
35:00
Speaker 8: was forcing her to get abortions, and Gina took all
35:05
Speaker 8: of it.
35:05
Speaker 1: She was danding a billionaire.
35:07
Speaker 7: She became a joke online for those of you who
35:09
Speaker 7: don't know, or.
35:09
Speaker 8: She was dancing in an apartment with dirty carpet as
35:12
Speaker 8: a single mom, trying to prove she was worthy.
35:16
Speaker 7: Cassie was always a good one. She was the bad one.
35:19
Speaker 7: Diddy pitted her against her.
35:22
Speaker 1: Gina is a.
35:22
Speaker 7: Tragic figure, but she's also an arrogant.
35:26
Speaker 8: Foolish, god ridiculous figure that has everybody so upset.
35:32
Speaker 7: Oddly enough, it seems like that letter.
35:34
Speaker 8: To Judge Aaron might have backfired because Judge Aaron himself said.
35:38
Speaker 7: It doesn't matter what gen and this isn't a prior filing.
35:41
Speaker 8: It doesn't matter what Gina might have said to your defense.
35:46
Speaker 1: She also went.
35:47
Speaker 8: Online and he referenced that Tasha k interview and said
35:50
Speaker 8: the horrible things that you did.
35:53
Speaker 7: So again, Gina is in fool's territory.
35:55
Speaker 8: She has a lot of people mad, but again she
35:57
Speaker 8: is coming out with an arrogant then had you scratching
36:01
Speaker 8: your head and going back to Rob said did he
36:03
Speaker 8: a magician?
36:04
Speaker 7: What type of mind control? She went online if I
36:07
Speaker 7: haven't seen the tweets and said, you guys are she's.
36:11
Speaker 9: I've never been a follower, which is ironic because you
36:14
Speaker 9: are the epitity of mind control and follow she called
36:17
Speaker 9: us goofies, said she's always going to be ten tolls
36:20
Speaker 9: down and she's a.
36:21
Speaker 7: Real a b whatever that means. I look at this
36:25
Speaker 7: means she is a real dummy.
36:27
Speaker 19: Again, trying hard to hold sympathy, and I'm sure I'm
36:31
Speaker 19: just just stunned about the sudden about face because I
36:35
Speaker 19: watched that interview with Tasha Kay, over and.
36:37
Speaker 1: Over, she said a lot more.
36:39
Speaker 2: And the judge is right, Doctor Bethany Marshall, to see
36:42
Speaker 2: an abuse victim at that level of abuse suddenly turncoat,
36:49
Speaker 2: change the story and begged the judge to let him out.
36:54
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen anything like it?
36:56
Speaker 7: All the time, Nancy, Sadly, this is not on with
37:00
Speaker 7: domestic violence victims. This is a very very common thing.
37:04
Speaker 7: I remember sitting in the green room when all of
37:07
Speaker 7: Tiger Woods's girlfriends kept streaming in for all these shows
37:11
Speaker 7: on CNN and HLN, and I talked to all of them,
37:14
Speaker 7: and each one said the same thing.
37:16
Speaker 1: They said, you.
37:17
Speaker 7: Know, we knew there were other women. We knew he
37:20
Speaker 7: was married, We knew he wasn't going to give us
37:22
Speaker 7: anything at all, but we all thought we were going
37:24
Speaker 7: to be the special one. We all thought he was
37:27
Speaker 7: going to choose us instead of the other. You know, Nancy,
37:30
Speaker 7: we are wired for attachment, and for somebody like Gina,
37:34
Speaker 7: that idea of winning out over Cassie Ventura, of being
37:39
Speaker 7: supported financially, of winning over the love object, conquering him,
37:45
Speaker 7: turning him around, getting the love that she never had
37:48
Speaker 7: from him, that can be very intoxicating, Like an aphrodisiac.
37:52
Speaker 7: So she went on all these shows complaining about what
37:57
Speaker 7: he did to her, but now now well, she refuses
38:01
Speaker 7: to put her thoughts together about the reality of what happened.
38:04
Speaker 7: It's very frustrating and I'm glad the judge sees right
38:07
Speaker 7: through it.
38:08
Speaker 2: Sidney Sumner, I want to follow up on what doctor
38:10
Speaker 2: Bethany is saying. Sidney Sumner, joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter.
38:14
Speaker 2: It seems like just yesterday, Sydney, that you and I
38:18
Speaker 2: were talking about Seawn Combs trying to intimidate witnesses from
38:23
Speaker 2: behind bars. Do you remember those incidents? I mean, Gina
38:29
Speaker 2: when is a witness an intended witness although she didn't
38:33
Speaker 2: show up. Now, could you refresh my recollection, Sydney, about
38:37
Speaker 2: claims Shawn Combs was intimidating and or trying to.
38:44
Speaker 1: Bribe such an ugly word convince witnesses not to testify.
38:49
Speaker 16: Absolutely, so we know from prosecutors that Diddy is accused
38:57
Speaker 16: of convincing other inmates to allow him to use their
39:02
Speaker 16: code to access the phone to call people witnesses that
39:09
Speaker 16: he was not supposed to be in contact with. So
39:13
Speaker 16: prosecutors star witnesses Diddy was reaching out pretending to be
39:18
Speaker 16: calling as another inmate in order to gain access to
39:23
Speaker 16: those individuals, So that was pretty crazy. And then beyond that,
39:28
Speaker 16: he also used his own phone number code but would
39:32
Speaker 16: call one of his sons and then have one of
39:35
Speaker 16: them patch in one of those protected witnesses that he
39:40
Speaker 16: was not supposed to be contacting. And even before that,
39:44
Speaker 16: we know that he contacted a Danity Cane member. So
39:48
Speaker 16: this was just a few days after Don Richard came
39:52
Speaker 16: out and claimed that Ditty was abusive on the set
39:55
Speaker 16: of making the band. He contacted another Danity Cane member
39:59
Speaker 16: to two hundred times in forty eight hours until she
40:03
Speaker 16: finally posted something publicly that said I don't remember things
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Speaker 16: going down like that. So Dinny is not opposed to
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Speaker 16: reaching out to witnesses and getting them to say what
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Speaker 16: he wants them to say, whether that's through money. Threttz,
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Speaker 16: You've no stranger to witness tampering.
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Speaker 2: Rob Sheheeter joining me at Robsheeter dot substack dot com.
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Speaker 2: Former prgury four comes, Wow, what a coinky dink. After
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Speaker 2: watching Tasha Kay's interview with Gina Howen repeatedly and all
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Speaker 2: the things she said happened to her at the hands
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Speaker 2: of Shawn Combs. Now suddenly you turn about face and
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Speaker 2: she's writing the judge a legal letter asking for Shawn Combs.
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Speaker 1: To be freed. Huh, what do you think happened?
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Speaker 3: A couple of things here. First of all, I have
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Speaker 3: great sympathy for her. I feel like she's a victim
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Speaker 3: here who's been used, who's been played. If she's watching
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Speaker 3: right now, we talk out to her, Gina, this is
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Speaker 3: a terrible mistake. He does not care about you, He
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Speaker 3: has never cared about you, and now trying to help him.
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Speaker 3: He's not going to care once he doesn't need you.
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Speaker 3: So it's a very dangerous game she's playing here. Also too,
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Speaker 3: there might be some financial aspect of this. Is he
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Speaker 3: paying her rent? Is he going to help her out? Puffy?
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Speaker 3: It can be very generous when he wants stuff. And
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Speaker 3: I think as well, she loved him in a sperverted
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Speaker 3: type of way that he encouraged. Now that the other
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Speaker 3: ladies have gone from his life, maybe she thinks she
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Speaker 3: can be his lead, his number one girlfriend. It's a tragic, tragic,
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Speaker 3: tragic place that we're in here, and it's not going
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Speaker 3: to end well.
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Speaker 2: And let me be clear, we have no evidence that
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Speaker 2: a bribe or a threat occurred to make Gina Hawen
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Speaker 2: change her Let me think to make Gina Hawen write
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Speaker 2: a legal letter to the jud But again, Rob Shooter,
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Speaker 2: when you don't know a horse, look at his track record.
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Speaker 2: He was already caught, according to report, trying to convince.
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Speaker 2: That's certainly putting perfume on the pig a euphemism. Trying
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Speaker 2: to convince witnesses to either testify in his behalf or
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Speaker 2: not testify. Okay, he orchestrated the whole trial, and it worked.
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Speaker 1: He got off on three accounts.
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Speaker 3: It worked. I think what we can say here with
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Speaker 3: Anthony dat is that the law doesn't apply to did
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Speaker 3: he in his own mind, and so did He will
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Speaker 3: do whatever it takes to get the results he wants.
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Speaker 3: And if he has to talk to people to get letters,
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Speaker 3: to get endorsements, he will do it. He will promise
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Speaker 3: people the world. When he needs you, there is nobody
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Speaker 3: more charming than Puff. When he doesn't need you, she
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Speaker 3: ain't ever going to hear from him again.
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Speaker 1: Go to Bethony help me out here.
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Speaker 2: Why would any woman in her right mind want to
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Speaker 2: be first in the line of many? I mean, what
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Speaker 2: You're going to be queen of the victims. You're going
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Speaker 2: to be the victim queen. All these women that want
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Speaker 2: to be with Sean Comes, why would you want that?
43:13
Speaker 2: I don't get it. And another thing, if you get
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Speaker 2: Sean Comes, it's like a dog tastes it a car.
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Speaker 1: What do you do when you catch it?
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Speaker 7: That's right, Nancy, I think it's part of a cycle.
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Speaker 7: I would imagine when she first met p Diddy, he
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Speaker 7: charmed her, he gave her gifts, he maybe financially supported her,
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Speaker 7: and then so she bonded with the charming Pee Diddy,
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Speaker 7: and then when he started to neglect and abuse her,
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Speaker 7: she began to rationalize, well, that's not the real Pea Diddy.
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Speaker 7: The real Pea Diddy was the one who gave me
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Speaker 7: the diamond ring and took me out to all that
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Speaker 7: fine dining. And then when the neglect became more severe,
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Speaker 7: she probably rationalized, well, he's just busy, he doesn't have
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Speaker 7: time to call me. And then when he swoops in
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Speaker 7: and manipulates her and says, you know what, baby, I
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Speaker 7: know there's all these stories of other women, but you
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Speaker 7: know what, or other men to Freudian slip, you know, baby,
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Speaker 7: You're the most important one.
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Speaker 1: That's like, oh my god, I am.
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Speaker 7: The most important one. We know that the p deities
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Speaker 7: of these world are of this world are incredibly manipulative,
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Speaker 7: and she might be one of these women who just
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Speaker 7: allows herself to be manipulated because in some way she's
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Speaker 7: a frustrating character and she's a sympathetic character all at
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Speaker 7: the same time. Rob Shooter was right, we should have
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Speaker 7: empathy for her. But Tisa TL's also saying she's in foolsland.
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Speaker 7: We have to hold intention both sides of Gina Madison
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Speaker 7: Square Garden.
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Speaker 1: My rare end.
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Speaker 2: Troy Slayton actually thinks it's going to happen that Sean
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Speaker 2: Combs aka Diddy's going to sell out MSG. Okay, I'll
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Speaker 2: be eating a dirt sandwich again if that happens. But Slayton,
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Speaker 2: what do you do when a witness completely changes their team.
44:58
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Gena.
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Speaker 11: You think your lucky stars because she wrote to the
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Speaker 11: judge that he's not a danger to the community, that
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Speaker 11: all of his alleged violent acts were years and years ago,
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Speaker 11: that she thinks he should be released on bail pending
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Speaker 11: his sentencing in October.
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Speaker 3: I think that she is a gift to.
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Speaker 11: The defense at this point, because she's alleged to have
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Speaker 11: been victim number three, and if one of the government's
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Speaker 11: own victims is advocating for the defendant to be released,
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Speaker 11: I think that that's a gift to the Didy defense team.
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Speaker 2: Well wait a minute, why wait, wait, wait, Tasa tails,
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Speaker 2: didn't the judge poop poo the whole thing?
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Speaker 1: Did he poop pooh her letter? Judge poo the whole thing?
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Speaker 7: Did he try to get the warrant thrown out a
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Speaker 7: while ago.
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Speaker 1: Saying ginas on myself.
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Speaker 7: Well, back then he referred towards victim number three is
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Speaker 7: on my side? What are you talking about? She says,
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Speaker 7: I'm a changed man.
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Speaker 20: Judge Aaron literally wrote in his opinion, Fine, she might
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Speaker 20: be on your side now, and I'm paraphrasing, but she
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Speaker 20: also said these things about you, and he distinctly referenced
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Speaker 20: to Tasha k interview.
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Speaker 7: So Judge Aaron is not fighting for it.
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Speaker 8: I think Diddy might be doing this for a pr motive,
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Speaker 8: saying the women have forgive me.
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Speaker 7: Who are we the public to.
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Speaker 8: Stand in to stand in jury judge execution before them?
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Speaker 8: Maybe that he thinks is going to help him get
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Speaker 8: back on Madison Square Garden, but at this point it
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Speaker 8: seems like it's the kitchen sink. Interestingly enough, that letter
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Speaker 8: Gina wrote, if you actually read.
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Speaker 7: It, and I know you have, there's something.
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Speaker 1: Very interesting in it.
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Speaker 8: She said, he stands accused of these crimes. She submitted
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Speaker 8: it after he was convicted. Me thinks that when Gina
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Speaker 8: decided to go missing and maybe money was found in
46:42
Speaker 8: her bank account, maybe not.
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Speaker 7: Gina also wrote this letter.
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Speaker 8: In anticipation, and they decided now to submit it thinking
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Speaker 8: it will help.
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Speaker 1: Again. Interesting language.
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Speaker 7: He stands accused, not convicted.
46:55
Speaker 2: Well, you know what comes has other issues. He's got
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Speaker 2: other fish to fry, including I'll be Sure accusing Sean
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Speaker 2: Combs of having a hand and the death of kim Porter.
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Speaker 6: Listen in a now deleted Instagram post, kim Porter's ex
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Speaker 6: An R and B singer I'll be Sure accuses the
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Speaker 6: Diddy Machine of funding a large scale social media campaign
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Speaker 6: to silence his claims that otherwise healthy, forty seven year
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Speaker 6: old Porter did not die of pneumonia but was murdered.
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Speaker 6: Sure says at least thirty news outlets were paid to
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Speaker 6: scrub hashtag kim Porter from the media.
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Speaker 1: Cycle.
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Speaker 6: But he will not be dragged through the mud as
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Speaker 6: an attention seeker or a clout chaser for speaking out.
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Speaker 1: The truth of those claims remains to be seen, but
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Speaker 1: I still say that the murder of Tupac Shakur I
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Speaker 1: ain't over yet. You hear me, Daddy?
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Speaker 2: Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye friend,