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Chuck in the Morning 8-21 H4: Hugh Millen, ABC's of the Mariners, One Last Thing · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Oh, I like this.
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Speaker 2: Did you pick this out? He likes grabbing his own music,
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Speaker 2: but most of the time he goes with like classic
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Speaker 2: rock together. I am on the stage the process here.
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Speaker 1: I should have asked you what he wanted.
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Speaker 3: I just did some NFL primetime.
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Speaker 2: Well this is yeah, this is a little upbeat football music.
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Speaker 1: This feels very humilanie. I bet you he likes this. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm down for this, all right, with any anything reminds
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Speaker 1: you of football. Okay, okay, there you go. R QB
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Speaker 1: one joins us. That's right. Its sex Is and O season.
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Speaker 2: We started at last Friday at nine o'clock and we'll
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Speaker 2: be having it probably every Friday for the entire football season,
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Speaker 2: barring anything unforeseen. Uh and so joining us here on
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Speaker 2: the show is Hugh Milling to break it all down
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Speaker 2: for us. We get ready for preseason game number two.
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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing well, good, very good, very good.
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Speaker 2: All right, So let's talk about the joint practice thing,
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Speaker 2: because I mean, look.
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Speaker 1: Keep in mind, I'm the uncle who when.
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Speaker 2: My nieces and nephews were toddlers and they wrestled on
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Speaker 2: the floor, I was like.
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Speaker 1: Get them to stop. They're going to hurt themselves.
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Speaker 2: That's the guy. That's who I kind of am. I
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Speaker 2: look and I and im again. Come on, and don't
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Speaker 2: get me wrong, I do. I do love violent, physical football,
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Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, but when it may not be necessary.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not even a preseason game.
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Speaker 2: So I don't know if I like the fact that
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Speaker 2: they're going to beat the crud out of each other
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Speaker 2: today at this joint practice them in the Tennessee Titans.
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Speaker 2: But I suppose if Mike McDonald loves it, I need
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Speaker 2: to love it.
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Speaker 1: I need to get on board. How do you feel
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Speaker 1: about it? Well with regardless to the brawling. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I kind of took a paper out and I kind
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Speaker 1: of went back through each summer, each camp when I
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Speaker 1: was playing, and I counted ten different teams that I've
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Speaker 1: scrimmaged with, and I think I'm missing one or two.
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Speaker 1: But but the most memorable, if you can imagine this,
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Speaker 1: Jerry Glanville is the head coach of the Falcons. I'm
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Speaker 1: on the Falcons, and Buddy Ryan is the head coach
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Speaker 1: of the Eagles. Now, knowing what you know about those characters,
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Speaker 1: we have a scrimmage in Macon, Georgia. The Eagles fly
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Speaker 1: down for a two day scrimmage. And this is the
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Inquirer from August third, nineteen ninety. The two day
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Speaker 1: full squad scrimmage between the teams turned into a war yesterday,
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Speaker 1: highlighted by a bench clearing melee that even the coaches
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Speaker 1: had trouble stopping. Philadelphia Daily News helmets came off, both
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Speaker 1: Benchi's emptied and it was a legitimate professional brawl. And
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Speaker 1: it goes on to say it lasted five minutes. And
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Speaker 1: then in twenty years later, in twenty ten, there was
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Speaker 1: an article the Making Scrimmage chronicles how a violent nineteen
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Speaker 1: ninety brawl between the Atlanta Falcons and Philadelphia Eagles forced
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Speaker 1: the NFL to change how it conducts joint team practices.
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Speaker 1: So I'll tell you what, Chuck, whatever image you have
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Speaker 1: of it, it was like a Civil War movie or something,
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Speaker 1: just like the entire field. Yeah, there was a North
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Speaker 1: South element to that as I as I describe it.
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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Different coaches have a different take
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Speaker 1: on it. And you know, like when I was at
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Speaker 1: the Rams, we went up uh and and scrimmers of
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, And when Tom Landry is so close to
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Speaker 1: your huddle, that he can. You can almost hear you
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Speaker 1: call the plays in the huddle. You know, it tends
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Speaker 1: to kind of you know, class up the joint. But
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Speaker 1: the uh but but getting back to that Falcon deal,
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Speaker 1: I remember going by the the coach's office one time
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Speaker 1: and they're in their their meeting, they got their their
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Speaker 1: feed up, they're eating popcorn, sunflower seeds, and they're watching
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Speaker 1: the video of the brawl the entire to like with
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Speaker 1: the with the recess uh camera back, and they're just
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Speaker 1: having a good old time watching each and every fight.
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Speaker 1: And even aside from the fight, actually they were trying
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Speaker 1: to lean something that pertained the football. They wanted to
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Speaker 1: see who the fighters were. Now I'm not saying every
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Speaker 1: staff would do that, but they literally were like, hey,
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Speaker 1: who has the inclination to help their teammate, who is
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Speaker 1: not going to back down? And they made some decisions
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Speaker 1: on special teams based on what they saw in that brawl.
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Speaker 1: It sounds silly, but some teams do it. Hmm do
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Speaker 1: you agree with that? Do you like that? Do you
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Speaker 1: like an element of that? No? I mean everybody, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's not black or white. Do you fight er? Do
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Speaker 1: you not it? It's two hundred and fifty six shades
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Speaker 1: of gray, and as I just described, the darkest one.
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Speaker 1: But uh, there's always gonna be There's always gonna be, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, little fights. It's just does it get out
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Speaker 1: of control? I think at some point it gets unnecessary
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Speaker 1: and it's taken away from time. But but I think that,
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Speaker 1: you know, there's an element of it's hard because football
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Speaker 1: obviously is a testosterone laden sport. And you got a
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Speaker 1: bunch of guys, you know, being taught, hey, we don't
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Speaker 1: back down, and then you throw them in that climate.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to regulate. Uh And and so it is
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Speaker 1: what it is. Uh And and hopefully nobody gets hurt out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, why is it that they tell me, I don't
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Speaker 2: know if I'm catching you off card with this. Why
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Speaker 2: is it they tell me that we can glean more
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Speaker 2: from one of these joint.
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Speaker 1: Practices than we can in a preseason game. Well, they're
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Speaker 1: they're gonna, they're gonna go full speed, and other than
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Speaker 1: he can't hit the quarterback. That's the main thing. Quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: me in a different color jersey. And so everybody knows
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Speaker 1: your professionally stay away from the quarterback, you know, Derek
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Speaker 1: Derek Hale notwith standing from a week ago in Hard knocks.
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Speaker 1: But but I think I think that they can say, Hey,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna put our number ones out there, and we're
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Speaker 1: gonna be full pads, and we're gonna be protecting for
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Speaker 1: Sam Donald, and we're gonna see the timing of our
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Speaker 1: passing game. But if God forbid, somebody gets near Sam Donald,
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Speaker 1: he's not gonna take a shot. We're not gonna experience
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Speaker 1: what the Chiefs experience when Trent Green got hurt or
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Speaker 1: sorry Rams Rams, Trent Green, and then of course Kurt
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Speaker 1: Warner came in. So I think the main thing is
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Speaker 1: just the protection of the quarterbacks.
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Speaker 2: Here, melanis with us our QB one x is and
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Speaker 2: O's Friday here as we get set for the second
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Speaker 2: preseason game on Sunday, and we'll have a Monday morning
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Speaker 2: quarterback session for you with Hugh starring Hugh on Monday.
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Speaker 2: All right, let me ask you before I ask you
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Speaker 2: about the preseason game. Trayvon Diggs added to this team.
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Speaker 2: So I'm starting to wonder if we should feel worried
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Speaker 2: about not having enough cornerback depth on this roster. Terry
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Speaker 2: On Arnold first, and now Trayvon Diggs, who Hugh got
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Speaker 2: off to a tremendous start in his NFL career. But
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Speaker 2: here we sit in August, mid August, and he didn't
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Speaker 2: even have a team. I don't know how he went
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Speaker 2: south so quickly in terms of his status, and yet
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Speaker 2: the Seahawks are going to try to salvage that career.
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Speaker 1: What do you see, Trayvon Diggs. Well, he had an
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Speaker 1: acl and then he had a concussion that that he
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Speaker 1: suffered putting up a television on a television mount. And
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Speaker 1: so there's just been some quirky things happening. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I threw on the team or at the tape, and
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Speaker 1: his number seven for the Cowboys a number twenty eight
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Speaker 1: for the Packers, and and I think it's all just
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Speaker 1: kind of decent. But the one overriding observation is there's
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Speaker 1: no suddenness in what he does. I should say, I
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Speaker 1: don't say no suddenness. He doesn't have elite suddenness. I
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Speaker 1: think that'd be a more accurate and more fair way
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Speaker 1: to put I just don't see. I mean, there's a
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Speaker 1: reason he got cut in the middle of the season, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, the Cowboys were the worst pass defense on
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Speaker 1: on planet Earth. So so you can't expect me to
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Speaker 1: come in here and and uh, you know, be throwing
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Speaker 1: a bunch of bouquets at the guy. Now he had
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Speaker 1: eleven interceptions back some time ago. But if he's got
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Speaker 1: an acl that he never healed from, you know, it's
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Speaker 1: pointless to go and throw that tape on. I would say,
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Speaker 1: this just speaks to me. I would I would identify
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Speaker 1: as the as the player on the Seahawks who has
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Speaker 1: lost the most in terms of stature in this training camp.
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Speaker 1: I would answer the niam My approach it because the
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Speaker 1: very first rep of the very first practice, niam My
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Speaker 1: approach it was going with the number ones. And so
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Speaker 1: now he's kind of been replaced. You see Igbinoghan a replace,
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Speaker 1: you know, replacing him. Now there's different personnel groups and
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Speaker 1: formations and how they utilize them, and we can talk
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Speaker 1: or not talk about those details. But I think Pritchett
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Speaker 1: there was a thought that he in his third year
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Speaker 1: he'd bulked up, He's going to be more physical and
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Speaker 1: what have you. But I think it's really clear the
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Speaker 1: Seahawks are are telling us with a bullhorn that they're
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Speaker 1: not happy with the corner play. Yeah, because of what
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Speaker 1: they're doing with Arnold and with Dix. You know, when
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Speaker 1: you're a player and you're sitting there seeing your club,
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Speaker 1: your team, your general manager, Uh, you know, just going
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Speaker 1: who's available on the street. We we this, we got
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Speaker 1: a five alarm fire. We got to get somebody. You know.
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Speaker 1: It's not how they wanted this August to go. In
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Speaker 1: my opinion, there's no way that this this is just
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Speaker 1: you know, the plan, right, And so I think that
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Speaker 1: we're being told there's some corner issues. You know, you
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Speaker 1: got your drafted Julian Neil with the third round. He
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Speaker 1: hasn't been healthy. Uh, you know, that's one of those deals.
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Speaker 1: It's not unreasonable to have thought that he could push
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Speaker 1: for a starting position. After all, Shaq Griffin was a
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Speaker 1: third round draft pick. He started as a rookie. So
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Speaker 1: so there's a little bit of a disappointment that you know,
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Speaker 1: just kind of if you put the magnifying glass on
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Speaker 1: the cornerback position, you're kind of looking at and everything,
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Speaker 1: as I said, the six are doing to address it,
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Speaker 1: it leaves you to feel a little bit uneasy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I thought Pritchett was improving at the end
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Speaker 2: of the season, unfolded. But it does seem like he's
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Speaker 2: in the crosshairs right now. I don't know why else,
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Speaker 2: so you'd be doing.
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Speaker 1: This, Well, he could, you know, he could kind of
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Speaker 1: have a revitalization. You know, he's being challenged and certainly this,
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Speaker 1: if he's a competitor, is gonna get get bring the
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Speaker 1: best out of him. We'll just see how plays.
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Speaker 2: Hugh mellani is with us x's and o's here on
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Speaker 2: this Friday, getting ready for preseason game number two. All right,
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Speaker 2: so what are you looking forward to evaluating most on Sunday?
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Speaker 2: As we don't know who's playing and how often they're playing.
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Speaker 2: But in a perfect world you get to see somebody
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Speaker 2: play football on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: Who's that guy? Well, I would say I'm looking at
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Speaker 1: the guys that that could really potentially help. I thought
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Speaker 1: Bud Clark just kind of had one of those nondescript games.
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Speaker 1: Would be like saying, you know, I want to scout
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Speaker 1: the range of a center fielder, and then you watch
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Speaker 1: the whole game and then the ball never gets hit
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Speaker 1: out there. You know it's going to the right field,
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Speaker 1: left field, into the shortstop, but never seems to find
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Speaker 1: the center fielder. So I think there's more to watch
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Speaker 1: on him as a second round draft pick, and knowing
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Speaker 1: how Mike McDonald feels about him and wants to use him,
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Speaker 1: I think that intrigues me. I think the backup tackles
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Speaker 1: were really poor, and I you know, I used the
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Speaker 1: plural sense. I don't care if tackles are poor, but
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Speaker 1: we need one. We need one to be good because
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Speaker 1: the swing tackle, the swing backup tackle who last year
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Speaker 1: was Josh Jones, and in August he was playing really well.
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Speaker 1: And then when he was forced into duty at the
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Speaker 1: end of the season, including against the forty nine ers
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Speaker 1: in the vital Game in Week eighteen, not only did
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Speaker 1: he play, he played well. You know, there was no
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Speaker 1: mention of him, which is exactly what you want from
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Speaker 1: an offensive tackle. No news is good news, right, So
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Speaker 1: so he's he's he's not quite performing at the level
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Speaker 1: he was performing at in August of a year ago.
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Speaker 1: So so that would be a factor. I uh, you know.
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Speaker 1: And then I feel like the receivers, the two's receivers,
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Speaker 1: it feels like there's a drop off, and Tory Horton's
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Speaker 1: absence is certainly a factor in that. But but Jake Bobo,
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Speaker 1: I think is very limited. I don't know, I just
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Speaker 1: I just feel like, uh, maybe it's what you it's
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Speaker 1: just what it is. But but I don't know that
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Speaker 1: the the depth is great there. But you know, those
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Speaker 1: are some of the areas that I'll be looking at.
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Speaker 1: And then yeah, I'm gonna be looking at the structure
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Speaker 1: of the offense, uh, understanding that we didn't see the
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Speaker 1: starters and and that obviously goes into the evaluation. I
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Speaker 1: use the term evaluation, but I'm looking at Brian Florey
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Speaker 1: with a very u uh curious eye as to, Okay,
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Speaker 1: what is it that he likes. But I'm also looking
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Speaker 1: at at how the offense is structured, you know, even
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Speaker 1: down to details like, hey, if you're going to run
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Speaker 1: an out route, a speed out route, why is your
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Speaker 1: outside leg forward which creates a seven step drop one
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Speaker 1: when ninety five percent of the league goes inside leg forward,
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Speaker 1: which means it's a sixth step drop, which means the
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Speaker 1: quarterback doesn't have to take a hit. It just it
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Speaker 1: times up with the when you want to hit the
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Speaker 1: corner who's kind of bailing out too fast, that six
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Speaker 1: step out route it fits the quarterback's eye. It's time tested,
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Speaker 1: they've been doing it for fifty years, and you know,
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Speaker 1: just to make sure that that wasn't a dinosaur thought,
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Speaker 1: I went and filtered the NFL stat video for all that.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there watching Joe Burrow and Pat Mahomes
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Speaker 1: and Justin Herbert and all the and Jordan Love the Packers.
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Speaker 1: All these guys are are are really getting a lot
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Speaker 1: of completions out of that route. And every single one
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Speaker 1: that I just mentioned, they're all from a six step
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Speaker 1: drop inside leg ford which means third inside step. So
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Speaker 1: little details like that. I could go into other stuff,
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Speaker 1: you know, without a napkin it it might get confusing,
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Speaker 1: But I'm really looking at the offense and and and
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Speaker 1: how they're their structured, how they're coached, and the detail.
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Speaker 2: Well, considering the position you've taken with George Hallani, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: is Jidarian price to you at this point? Like bubble
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Speaker 2: wrap him, save him for the start of the season
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Speaker 2: or do you think we need to see him in
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Speaker 2: a couple couple series here before the start of the year.
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Speaker 1: No, I would want to see him. I mean, if
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Speaker 1: he's that fragile, then that's going to be exposed. We're
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Speaker 1: not even going to get to Halloween if he's that fragile. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so no, I would want to see him. If he's healthy,
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Speaker 1: I'd want him to get some reps. If he you know,
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Speaker 1: I would want him to be behind the number one
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Speaker 1: offensive line. I mean, he's your your starter, and he's
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Speaker 1: not and and and my position is regarding Halani is
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Speaker 1: not not a terribly terribly difficult to grasp. I think
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Speaker 1: he's a valuable football player. I described all all the
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Speaker 1: different positions he plays in special teams. And he can
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Speaker 1: fill in in a pinch as your half back. Yeah yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's anything beyond fill in in a pinch, you know,
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Speaker 1: break glass type of deal. Anything beyond a break glass
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Speaker 1: uh status for him as your running back, then the
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Speaker 1: Seahawks offense is in trouble.
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Speaker 2: That's in my opinion. So yeah, I want to close
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Speaker 2: with this. I pointed something out a little bit earlier
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Speaker 2: in the show. There's a Ryan Paganetti as his name.
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Speaker 2: I guess he's an analytics coach and has been using
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Speaker 2: a few different organizations. But uh, he did a something
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Speaker 2: on social media this week talking about if you haven't
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Speaker 2: figured out that sacks are a quarterback stat more so
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Speaker 2: than they are an offensive line stat and the greatest
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Speaker 2: of all time are usually have the lowest sack totals
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Speaker 2: for a reason.
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Speaker 1: Then you're just not paying attention.
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Speaker 2: And he got a lot of professional football players to
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Speaker 2: like what he said and to comment on he said
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Speaker 2: some of the research that he did statistically with it.
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Speaker 2: I wanted to get your thoughts on that. I mean,
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Speaker 2: we spent a lot of time bashing the offensive line
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Speaker 2: when Russell and Gino were at quarterback for the Seahawks,
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Speaker 2: and I did wonder how much of that was on
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Speaker 2: the quarterback keeping the ball too much. So I don't
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Speaker 2: know if you saw the article, but Dan Marino, Peyton Manning,
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Speaker 2: Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Patrick Mahomes they have the best
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Speaker 2: sack ratios in NFL history, and I think maybe it's
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Speaker 2: because they knew how to get rid of the football
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Speaker 2: and not take a sack.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting that Mike Tannenbaum, who heads the thirty
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Speaker 1: third team, asked me to do a presentation on this.
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Speaker 1: So when you're making a presentation to guys like Bill Pollyan,
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Speaker 1: you know, you tend to want to make sure that
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Speaker 1: you got your duction in a row right. So I
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Speaker 1: had an eleven point, excuse me, eleven sheet power point
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Speaker 1: and just just the highlights of this what I did.
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Speaker 1: When you kind of look at the group, and this
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Speaker 1: is some of these names are it's gonna be this.
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Speaker 1: Probably I did this two years ago, but I had
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Speaker 1: gone back to I believe it was twenty ten. And
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Speaker 1: when you kind of look at the group, you know
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Speaker 1: how in basketball they say the ninety fifty forty club
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Speaker 1: ninety percent free throw shooting, fifty percent from field goal,
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Speaker 1: and forty percent from three points. So they say that
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Speaker 1: if you can be ninety fifty forty, you're a hell
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Speaker 1: of a shooter, right, pretty good. So within that inspiration,
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Speaker 1: you know, the scramble group was this the seventeen to
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Speaker 1: seven that is less than seventeen dropbacks per scramble, right,
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Speaker 1: so the lower the number that means the frequency of
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Speaker 1: the scramble, and then over seven yards per scramble. Okay,
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Speaker 1: And this was the names real quick, justin Fields, Michael Vick,
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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson, Tyrod Taylor, Colin Kaepernick, Deshaun Watson,
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Russell Wilson, Robert Griffin, Daniel Jones, Kyler Murray,
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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota, and then the pocket group from that it
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Speaker 1: was the two fifty ten and seven club, two hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty yards passing per game ten or more seasons
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Speaker 1: because you're you know what to do with the ball,
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Speaker 1: Dell Boyd sacks and then under seven yards per scramble.
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Speaker 1: You don't scramble off, and then when you do, you're
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Speaker 1: you're not nearly as good as that other group. Okay,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna recognize these names. This is the pocket group.
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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Kurt Warner,
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Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, Matthew Stafford, Matt Ryan, Matt Ryan, and Eli Manning.
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Speaker 1: So then when you say, all right, this is the
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Speaker 1: final this is the last seat that I'm gonna discuss
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Speaker 1: average dropbacks per sack. The pocket group was twenty three
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Speaker 1: point four. The scramble group was thirteen point six. And
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Speaker 1: when you when you when and it's in color coded
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Speaker 1: it blue for the passers because the ball is in
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Speaker 1: the air and the sky is blue, and then the
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Speaker 1: runners I color coded with green because the grass is
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Speaker 1: green and you're running on the grass. When you filter it,
19:04
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this and filter it by sort it
19:07
Speaker 1: rather for dropbacks per sack, every single one of the
19:13
Speaker 1: top guys is blue. All the blues are at the top,
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Speaker 1: with one exception, Josh Allen is kind of stuck in
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Speaker 1: the middle. Every single one in the bottom, every single
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Speaker 1: one is green, meaning at the most sacks per dropback
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Speaker 1: is all green. Now, there there are a lot of
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Speaker 1: explanations for that. Somebody could say, well, the guys with
19:35
Speaker 1: the athletic quarterbacks, they tend to not serve fortify their
19:39
Speaker 1: offensive line. Or really what you said, remember when Jalen
19:43
Speaker 1: Milroe took that sack on fourth down. What really happens
19:47
Speaker 1: is a lot of these guys they try and extend
19:49
Speaker 1: the play and they take more sacks. But in the
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Speaker 1: year that I did at tom Brady in the guy
19:55
Speaker 1: who was who had the best sack avoidance rate and
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Speaker 1: all of the NFL for two straight years was Tom Brady,
20:02
Speaker 1: And the guy who had the worst was Justin Fields.
20:04
Speaker 1: Now who's more athletic, Justin Fields or Tom Brady. But
20:07
Speaker 1: and I'll give one act and let you go in
20:10
Speaker 1: that tape watching the tape study, there was an example
20:13
Speaker 1: that was opening game against Pittsburgh for Tom Brady one year.
20:17
Speaker 1: He's on the left hash he's got a three man
20:19
Speaker 1: concept over to his right, so his attention is looking
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Speaker 1: to the right side of the field. A defensive lineman
20:26
Speaker 1: disengages from the right guard and he's right in Brady's face.
20:29
Speaker 1: Brady doesn't have the impulse to try and use his
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Speaker 1: feet to avoid that because he knows that he'll get
20:34
Speaker 1: hunt down and knows its sack. But as soon as
20:37
Speaker 1: it happens right in his face, as he's turning his head,
20:41
Speaker 1: his arm is going with his head, and he's throwing
20:45
Speaker 1: a hitch a hitch outlet out by the left sideline,
20:48
Speaker 1: a couple of feet from the sideline. He's looking over
20:51
Speaker 1: to his right, but he knows it. He knows that
20:54
Speaker 1: if I get trouble, I got somebody hanging out by
20:57
Speaker 1: the sideline. And he literally did not even look as
21:01
Speaker 1: he threw it. He just he just turned and his
21:04
Speaker 1: body in his head and the football were all coming
21:07
Speaker 1: together and he throws it out and he gets like
21:09
Speaker 1: a nine yard game. And and so knowing knowing how
21:13
Speaker 1: to change it, the protections, knowing where your hot outlets
21:17
Speaker 1: are audible play if you need to get out of it.
21:21
Speaker 1: The mental part of avoiding sacks is real and it's
21:26
Speaker 1: reflected in the numbers that I cited.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well I think it's pretty evident at
21:32
Speaker 2: this point.
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Speaker 1: So great. By the way, that was a modern analysis.
21:36
Speaker 1: You can go back to the scrambles of a generation
21:39
Speaker 1: or two ago, you know, rand On, Conyningham, Steve Young,
21:41
Speaker 1: those guys. I put the numbers. Those guys they took
21:45
Speaker 1: more sacks back then to than this than the pocket guys.
21:49
Speaker 1: It's always been that way.
21:51
Speaker 2: All right, man, great stuff, I appreciate it. Enjoy the weekend,
21:54
Speaker 2: and we'll talk down Monday, hammer down and enjoy all
21:57
Speaker 2: right here mall it our QB one top analysts in
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Speaker 2: town joining us to talk some football here breaking it
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Speaker 2: all down for us here RQB one on kJ R
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Speaker 2: Coming up next, We've got time for the ABC's.
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Speaker 1: Of the MS before we close out the week. Oh
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Speaker 1: where will the alphabet take is? I'll tell you somebody
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Speaker 1: who's curious.
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Speaker 2: Andrews Hurst Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. All right,
22:23
Speaker 2: let's do the abcs of the ms we left off
22:25
Speaker 2: of the letter are our is for Rodriguez and man
22:29
Speaker 2: when it are rent for rains, it pours, I mean,
22:34
Speaker 2: Daniel Kramer, I'm sure it has been working on this
22:37
Speaker 2: for a while, and I'm sure that it's an interesting
22:40
Speaker 2: read and a fun read. And we should have fun
22:43
Speaker 2: with our sports. It shouldn't be all about analyzing the
22:47
Speaker 2: manager for his pitchers decisions. We should introduce the fun element.
22:52
Speaker 2: But considering how angry this fan base is right now
22:56
Speaker 2: and how desperate this team should be playing right now
23:01
Speaker 2: for him to pop out an article about DJ Plano.
23:05
Speaker 3: Who's DJ Plano, Chuck Julio Rodriguez.
23:09
Speaker 2: It's an article about his passion for being a DJ.
23:15
Speaker 2: How it came about how much time he spends trying
23:18
Speaker 2: to perfect it and what he wants to do with
23:21
Speaker 2: it for the rest of his life.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, Daniel, if this was the.
23:26
Speaker 2: Best time to bring this up to Mariner fans, because
23:30
Speaker 2: anybody that reads it, I know this fan base by
23:33
Speaker 2: now is going to react with, well, if he wasn't
23:35
Speaker 2: spending it so much time, spinning records, maybe even come
23:39
Speaker 2: through in.
23:39
Speaker 1: The clutch once in a while.
23:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly what the response is going to be.
23:44
Speaker 3: It reminds me that last night, after they lose the
23:46
Speaker 3: series the Brewers, the first thing they show is Ryan
23:49
Speaker 3: Willden Smith going on the slide in Milwaukee. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
23:57
Speaker 3: they don't do themselves a ton of favors, the timing
24:00
Speaker 3: with a lot of this stuff.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I agree, I do not disagree. Do not disagree in.
24:08
Speaker 2: Oh, twenty two to nothing. Oh Brad Adams eating pied
24:18
Speaker 2: Oh that's not Brad's fault. No, not at all. We're
24:20
Speaker 2: not saying that at all.
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Speaker 1: Uh uh, those are the marching orders right there.
24:24
Speaker 3: Indeed they are, oh, twenty two to nothing.
24:27
Speaker 2: Let's talk about let's make a mock picture of Ryan
24:31
Speaker 2: Roland Smith's bicep.
24:35
Speaker 3: It kind of goes hand in hand with the fiftieth
24:37
Speaker 3: anniversary weekend where they get swept by the Rays and
24:39
Speaker 3: they have all these oh.
24:41
Speaker 2: They couldn't do anything that I couldn't do anything about
24:44
Speaker 2: find ahead, I understand.
24:46
Speaker 3: But yes, when it rains at porus is what you're saying.
24:49
Speaker 2: But there is an element to like, Okay, I get it.
24:52
Speaker 2: You committed DJ Plano to being the DJ during the
24:57
Speaker 2: home run derby, but I'd rather you not look so
25:00
Speaker 2: happy doing it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah right now? Yeah, yeah.
25:03
Speaker 2: A S is for the September South Paw Here is
25:07
Speaker 2: Kate Anderson making his debut. I said at the beginning
25:10
Speaker 2: of the year. That's that's what I dubbed him the
25:13
Speaker 2: September South Paw at the very beginning of the year,
25:15
Speaker 2: that Kate Anderson's going to play a mighty role on
25:17
Speaker 2: this team down the stretch. But that was coming from
25:20
Speaker 2: a person that was predicting really good things for the Mariners,
25:24
Speaker 2: you know, like ninety five wins and.
25:26
Speaker 3: Stuff, and you can afford to wait until September to
25:29
Speaker 3: call up one of your best pictures.
25:31
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think somebody accused me recently of guaranteeing that
25:34
Speaker 1: they were going to win the World Series. I never
25:36
Speaker 1: did that. As a matter of fact, I don't even
25:37
Speaker 1: think I predicted them to win the World Series. That
25:40
Speaker 1: thought they could.
25:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, you know, when somebody says that this
25:43
Speaker 2: is a World Series team, it means that's they have
25:45
Speaker 2: the potential for that.
25:46
Speaker 3: Of course, and I don't think like most people thought
25:49
Speaker 3: that was the case going into the year.
25:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
25:51
Speaker 2: But what I did say is that I thought this
25:53
Speaker 2: was going to be a comfortable year in the American
25:55
Speaker 2: League West, and.
25:56
Speaker 1: That we would be enter.
25:59
Speaker 2: We would be August twenty first, eight nine games up
26:02
Speaker 2: in first place, and you could slow play Kate Anderson
26:06
Speaker 2: to the majors like they did anyway, and you could
26:10
Speaker 2: experiment with him in September and try to figure out
26:14
Speaker 2: what kind of role he was going to have for
26:16
Speaker 2: you in the playoffs. I wasn't expecting to be at
26:19
Speaker 2: August twenty first eight games under five hundred and needing
26:22
Speaker 2: a tear just to get into the playoffs. But nonetheless,
26:27
Speaker 2: here's Kate Anderson ten days shy of September, and he's
26:32
Speaker 2: going to be our September South Paul. It looks like
26:35
Speaker 2: I still don't know what the role is going to be.
26:38
Speaker 1: Is this just a.
26:39
Speaker 2: Spot start ess for spot start or is he entering
26:42
Speaker 2: the rotation? Are we going back to an S's for
26:44
Speaker 2: six man rotation? What are we doing here? I don't know,
26:49
Speaker 2: but we'll get our first taste of him tomorrow to
26:51
Speaker 2: September South Paul.
26:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tell you what I would do. I would
26:54
Speaker 3: start him in Brice Miller's spot in the rotation just
26:56
Speaker 3: because something looks off with him, and I wouldn't be surprised.
27:00
Speaker 3: It has something to do with the surgery he didn't
27:03
Speaker 3: have in the off season with his elbow and that
27:05
Speaker 3: kind of falling apart with him recently. So I especially
27:09
Speaker 3: since he's been bad his last seven starts, it makes
27:11
Speaker 3: a ton of sense just to put Miller into the
27:13
Speaker 3: bullpen or shut him down and then have Kate Anderson's
27:16
Speaker 3: start those.
27:17
Speaker 2: Don't shut him down, put him in the bull Yeah,
27:19
Speaker 2: Like he does look like he's fatigued. And I don't
27:22
Speaker 2: know why he looks so fatigued right now. I mean,
27:25
Speaker 2: he came into the best shape of his entire life.
27:27
Speaker 2: He didn't pitch for the first part.
27:29
Speaker 1: Of the season, right he's already exhausted. Yeah, and he.
27:32
Speaker 2: Looked he looks exhausted right now. So maybe he'd be
27:36
Speaker 2: great in a two to three inning role here down
27:38
Speaker 2: the stretch to try to get him back on track
27:41
Speaker 2: if nothing else, so we'll see. I don't think this
27:44
Speaker 2: is Kate Anderson's coming up and then it's being sent
27:46
Speaker 2: right back down to Arkansas. I think he's going to
27:48
Speaker 2: be here for the stretch drive.
27:50
Speaker 1: We just don't know what that role is going to be.
27:51
Speaker 2: And finally, I just want to mention this because we
27:54
Speaker 2: didn't mention it this week.
27:55
Speaker 1: T is for tornado.
27:59
Speaker 2: We had a five alarm when we got to the
28:01
Speaker 2: building here today and we are so numb to fire alarms.
28:05
Speaker 3: That nobody even moves. We actually go into the building. Yeah,
28:09
Speaker 3: it was going off, and I was driving.
28:10
Speaker 2: Into the building, right I entered the fire alarm.
28:14
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you're right. It's one thing to not leave.
28:18
Speaker 2: I've heard these before. It's another thing to enter the
28:21
Speaker 2: building where the fire alarms going off. But that's how
28:25
Speaker 2: numb we sort of are to it. But I think
28:27
Speaker 2: all human beings are this way.
28:29
Speaker 1: Now.
28:31
Speaker 2: Think about what happened earlier this week. There was truly
28:35
Speaker 2: a tornado warning going on in Milwaukee. I'm from the Midwest.
28:40
Speaker 2: I know what those sound like. They are terrified. It's
28:43
Speaker 2: a different alarm than you've ever heard before in your life,
28:46
Speaker 2: and it will it'll creep into your soul when you
28:50
Speaker 2: hear a tornado warning going off, like a city wide one.
28:54
Speaker 2: I mean theirs was inside the stadium, sure, the one
28:57
Speaker 2: that they were hearing and contending with. But if there
29:00
Speaker 2: was a tornadent that was going on inside the entire
29:03
Speaker 2: city of Milwaukee, and that is an ominous tone, you
29:06
Speaker 2: can trust me on this. And and you could see
29:10
Speaker 2: you could see outside like there's cats flying around like
29:15
Speaker 2: a cow through the sky car. Yeah, somebody's house, Dorothy Garland,
29:21
Speaker 2: you know, bicycles, you know, surf boats. You know, everything
29:27
Speaker 2: is like going by outside and no one left.
29:31
Speaker 1: No one looked, no one moved a muscle. They didn't
29:34
Speaker 1: pause for a pitch.
29:38
Speaker 2: Rich and Ryan Roland Smith just like broadcasted right through it. Hey,
29:43
Speaker 2: just so you know, we have a tornado woman going
29:45
Speaker 2: up inside the building. And meanwhile, you know, the.
29:50
Speaker 1: Grover family is just like, well, I'm not gonna put
29:53
Speaker 1: down my.
29:53
Speaker 2: Hot dog and I got half a beer left, right,
29:55
Speaker 2: you know They're gonna stick it out no matter what.
29:58
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy how we are to those things are
30:01
Speaker 2: there for a reason, supposed to protect you, and we
30:05
Speaker 2: hear stuff like that anymore as a human, and we're
30:08
Speaker 2: just like, that's.
30:09
Speaker 1: No big deal.
30:10
Speaker 3: It'll blow over, We'll get sucked up into the oblivion
30:15
Speaker 3: and uh, you know we'll come back down eventually.
30:19
Speaker 1: What are the.
30:19
Speaker 2: Chances we're really going to like be hurled through space
30:24
Speaker 2: like I just bought nachos.
30:27
Speaker 3: They are the brewers, so they do take their beer seriously.
30:33
Speaker 1: All right, coming up.
30:34
Speaker 2: Next, Maybe if I had to go pee, maybe i'd
30:37
Speaker 2: step outside to see, but I just went so I'm
30:40
Speaker 2: not gonna sit here. One last thing's gonna close it
30:43
Speaker 2: out next Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM
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Speaker 2: my my Nyl segment of the show today and for
31:04
Speaker 2: the week thanks to Andrews hearstling in for Ashley Ryan
31:07
Speaker 2: all week long. We're gonna do some more shows together
31:10
Speaker 2: next week because Ashley took a really long vacation. She
31:14
Speaker 2: went to Hawai and stuff, and she wants to take
31:17
Speaker 2: her time getting there, being there, coming back from there,
31:22
Speaker 2: and coming back to here. So she's going to be
31:25
Speaker 2: out for a little while. So we have a little
31:27
Speaker 2: more Andrews Chuck action for you next week.
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Speaker 1: It's like Stove but on steroids. Stove on steroids. I
31:33
Speaker 1: like that, which might be.
31:34
Speaker 2: The new name of the podcast because we obviously got
31:37
Speaker 2: to ramp up our game.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, should we say stove but deferred?
31:43
Speaker 1: Yeah? Deferred stove? All right?
31:47
Speaker 2: One last thing, where do you want to take us?
31:51
Speaker 1: All right?
31:52
Speaker 3: I with knowing what the response of this is going
31:55
Speaker 3: to be, I just want to give a quick shout out.
31:58
Speaker 3: The Premier League is back soccer's best league after a
32:04
Speaker 3: fantastic World Cup. It starts today at noon Arsenal versus Coventry.
32:10
Speaker 3: Just wanted to give a quick shout out because it's
32:12
Speaker 3: my favorite league to watch. A lot of people after
32:16
Speaker 3: they watched the World Cup, they're like, Okay, maybe I
32:17
Speaker 3: want to dabble my foot into a little bit more
32:19
Speaker 3: club soccer, and then they go to MLS. And that
32:22
Speaker 3: is the biggest mistake you can make. Oh yes, in
32:26
Speaker 3: my opinion.
32:26
Speaker 1: I was waiting.
32:27
Speaker 2: I'm like, why are people going to respond to this negatively?
32:30
Speaker 1: And now you got to it.
32:32
Speaker 2: Yes, the light bulb just went yeah, and that's you're
32:36
Speaker 2: up for a shot at the MLS.
32:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, do tell Yeah, Well, I just I don't know.
32:41
Speaker 3: It's I'm a snob. I'll fully admit it. Like I'm
32:44
Speaker 3: a snob when it comes to a couple of things.
32:46
Speaker 3: Soccer cleats, I always spent, like spend way too much
32:49
Speaker 3: money on them. With skiing, I have to have like
32:52
Speaker 3: the most perfect conditions if I'm going to go skiing.
32:56
Speaker 3: And then with my soccer leagues, MLS is them of
33:00
Speaker 3: like watching probably Triple A baseball, which you know there's
33:03
Speaker 3: a lot of people that enjoy that, but if you're
33:05
Speaker 3: trying to introduce the sport to someone, you wouldn't show
33:08
Speaker 3: them at Tacoma Rainiers game, would you. All right, Yeah,
33:12
Speaker 3: so I think anyone who and I again, if this
33:15
Speaker 3: is just one person, great. I understand soccer is not
33:18
Speaker 3: the biggest deal in this country, in this part of
33:21
Speaker 3: the world, but if anyone has any more interest in
33:24
Speaker 3: watching a lot of the players that were on stage
33:28
Speaker 3: at the World Cup this summer, there are some fantastic
33:31
Speaker 3: clubs and leagues to look at. And the best one
33:35
Speaker 3: and the most entertaining one is the English Premier League
33:37
Speaker 3: and that is back today at noon and then the
33:40
Speaker 3: full slate of weekend games starting tomorrow. So check it out.
33:44
Speaker 3: It should be fun. I think it's on USA and Peacock.
33:47
Speaker 2: So did MLS get any kind of bump from World Cup?
33:50
Speaker 1: Though?
33:51
Speaker 2: Did people with their soccer fever at least? I mean,
33:55
Speaker 2: I know the Sounders didn't. But the Sounders were just lost.
33:58
Speaker 3: Yeah they are. It's why it kind of it's hard
34:01
Speaker 3: to tell because locally that's not the case because how
34:03
Speaker 3: bad the local team is.
34:05
Speaker 2: But they had already lost five to one to Portland
34:07
Speaker 2: for the World exactly.
34:09
Speaker 3: So I mean, I don't know exactly where the TV
34:13
Speaker 3: numbers are with MLS after the World Cup. I'm sure
34:16
Speaker 3: I had a little bit of a bump just from
34:17
Speaker 3: natural reasons, But again, I don't think there's any staying
34:20
Speaker 3: power in that because the league in itself is it's
34:23
Speaker 3: still growing. It needs to get to that point where
34:26
Speaker 3: it's with the rest of the league. But I'm telling
34:27
Speaker 3: you it's it's a huge jump in quality and it's
34:30
Speaker 3: so much more fun to watch.
34:31
Speaker 1: So check it out. Okay, what's your team again?
34:34
Speaker 3: Manchester United? I grew up during their heyday and now
34:37
Speaker 3: they are not in their heyday. So it's actually I
34:40
Speaker 3: used to when I.
34:40
Speaker 1: You don't come across as all home.
34:42
Speaker 3: Exactly like ten years ago, when I said I was
34:45
Speaker 3: a Manchester United fan, people are like, oh, okay, you know,
34:47
Speaker 3: you just watch them because they're good, you know, but
34:49
Speaker 3: they haven't been good in the last ten years so
34:51
Speaker 3: and you've stuck by their exactly. So now when they're
34:54
Speaker 3: good again, hopefully that's soon. Yeah, all right, I'm going
34:58
Speaker 3: to close with this.
34:58
Speaker 2: I just want to thank the Seahawks again and the
35:01
Speaker 2: Huskies again for hosting us out there at Camp. I
35:04
Speaker 2: do always look forward to it. It's fun to have
35:07
Speaker 2: that little change of pace. But the truth of the
35:10
Speaker 2: matter is, I'm camped out. I am a slave to routine,
35:15
Speaker 2: and when you work these hours, the routine becomes very important.
35:18
Speaker 2: So as much fun as I had and as good
35:21
Speaker 2: as the Seahawks and Huskies both were both to me
35:25
Speaker 2: out there at their sites. And it's great to interview
35:29
Speaker 2: Demond and Jed yesterday and all the Seahawks interviews that
35:32
Speaker 2: we had as well, and Jade Lamar was great and
35:35
Speaker 2: Laneous Davis was great. It was fantastic to have that
35:39
Speaker 2: kind of access and to deliver those kind of shows.
35:41
Speaker 2: But I'm just ready for football season right now. I
35:44
Speaker 2: don't want any more preseason games. I don't want any
35:46
Speaker 2: more camp talk. I am ready for football games, actual
35:50
Speaker 2: football games. And I always get to this point, this
35:52
Speaker 2: fevered pitch, when you're about halfway through preseason, because there's
35:55
Speaker 2: this I'm not really not enjoying this, these preseason games,
36:00
Speaker 2: and I still got a lot more of them to go.
36:03
Speaker 1: So what do we do now?
36:07
Speaker 2: Can we just get to it already? But yes, I'm
36:12
Speaker 2: camped out, I'm pre seasoned out. I'm looking forward to football.
36:15
Speaker 2: So let the countdown begin, all right, We'll talk to
36:18
Speaker 2: you on Monday morning. Coming up next, Greg Bell is
36:21
Speaker 2: going to be broadcasting live from the Joint practice in Nashville,
36:26
Speaker 2: I mean he.
36:26
Speaker 1: Might end up in the fight.
36:28
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure it'll spill over to it broadcast site.
36:32
Speaker 2: Wouldn't be surprised at all if Greg just squared off
36:34
Speaker 2: against Jeffrey Simmons at.
36:35
Speaker 1: Some point in the next couple of hours. You don't
36:38
Speaker 1: want to miss that, do you.
36:39
Speaker 2: No, you don't want to miss hearing Greg get pulled
36:42
Speaker 2: limb from limb by Jeffrey Simmons. So he and Jessaman
36:45
Speaker 2: coming your way next. We'll talk to you on Monday.
36:47
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