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- 1:15Hi
- 1:15everyone,
- 1:16I'm
- 1:16Em,
- 1:16and
- 1:17welcome
- 1:17to
- 1:17the
- 1:179th
- 1:17Wonder
- 1:18of
- 1:18the
- 1:18World,
- 1:19Verbal
- 1:19Diorama,
- 1:20episode
- 1:20347,
- 1:22King
- 1:22Kong.
- 1:23This
- 1:23is
- 1:23the
- 1:23podcast
- 1:24that's
- 1:24all
- 1:24about
- 1:24the
- 1:24history
- 1:25and
- 1:25legacy
- 1:25of
- 1:25movies
- 1:26you
- 1:26know
- 1:26and
- 1:26movies
- 1:27you
- 1:27don't.
- 1:27A
- 1:28show
- 1:28to
- 1:28gratify
- 1:29your
- 1:30curiosity.
- 1:31Welcome
- 1:32to
- 1:32Verbal
- 1:32Diorama.
- 1:33Whether
- 1:33you're
- 1:33a
- 1:33brand
- 1:33new
- 1:33listener,
- 1:34whether
- 1:34you're
- 1:34a
- 1:34regular
- 1:34returning
- 1:35listener,
- 1:35thank
- 1:36you
- 1:36so
- 1:36much
- 1:36for
- 1:36being
- 1:36here.
- 1:37Thank
- 1:37you
- 1:37so
- 1:38much
- 1:38for
- 1:38choosing
- 1:38to
- 1:38listen
- 1:39to
- 1:39this
- 1:39podcast.
- 1:40I'm
- 1:40so
- 1:40happy
- 1:40to
- 1:41have
- 1:41you
- 1:41here
- 1:41for
- 1:42the
- 1:42history
- 1:42and
- 1:42legacy
- 1:43of
- 1:43King
- 1:44Kong.
- 1:45And
- 1:45obviously,
- 1:46if
- 1:46you
- 1:46are
- 1:46a
- 1:46regular
- 1:46returning
- 1:47listener,
- 1:47thank
- 1:47you
- 1:47for
- 1:48continuing
- 1:48to
- 1:48come
- 1:49back
- 1:49and
- 1:49listen
- 1:50to
- 1:50this
- 1:50podcast
- 1:51and
- 1:51support
- 1:51this
- 1:51podcast
- 1:52over
- 1:53the
- 1:53last
- 1:53seven
- 1:53years
- 1:54and
- 1:54now
- 1:543,
- 1:55347
- 1:55episodes.
- 1:56I
- 1:56am
- 1:57so
- 1:57close
- 1:57to
- 1:57episode
- 1:58350.
- 2:00Huge.
- 2:00Thank
- 2:01you
- 2:01to
- 2:01you
- 2:02for
- 2:02your
- 2:02support.
- 2:03It
- 2:03genuinely
- 2:04means
- 2:04so
- 2:05much
- 2:05to
- 2:05an
- 2:06indie
- 2:06podcaster
- 2:07who
- 2:07has
- 2:07done
- 2:07literally
- 2:08347
- 2:09episodes
- 2:10of
- 2:10this
- 2:11podcast
- 2:11by
- 2:11herself.
- 2:12So
- 2:13once
- 2:13again,
- 2:13thank
- 2:14you
- 2:14so
- 2:14much,
- 2:14regular
- 2:15returning
- 2:15listeners,
- 2:15and
- 2:16if
- 2:16you
- 2:16are
- 2:16a
- 2:16brand
- 2:16new
- 2:16listener,
- 2:17you
- 2:17have
- 2:18plenty
- 2:18to
- 2:19catch
- 2:19up
- 2:19on.
- 2:20It
- 2:20is
- 2:21now
- 2:21the
- 2:21month
- 2:21of
- 2:21June,
- 2:22and
- 2:22Kaijune
- 2:23has
- 2:23always
- 2:24been
- 2:24a
- 2:24popular
- 2:24month
- 2:25on
- 2:25this
- 2:25podcast.
- 2:26It's
- 2:26something
- 2:26that
- 2:27I
- 2:27really
- 2:27love
- 2:27to
- 2:28do.
- 2:28This
- 2:28is
- 2:28my
- 2:28third
- 2:28time
- 2:29doing
- 2:29a
- 2:29Kai
- 2:30June
- 2:30season
- 2:31and
- 2:31I
- 2:32love
- 2:32great
- 2:33big
- 2:33hulking
- 2:33monster
- 2:34movies.
- 2:34I
- 2:35always
- 2:35have,
- 2:35I
- 2:36always
- 2:36will.
- 2:37The
- 2:37last
- 2:37episode
- 2:38was
- 2:38on
- 2:38the
- 2:38Meg,
- 2:39which
- 2:39is
- 2:39super
- 2:40cheesy,
- 2:40super
- 2:41fun,
- 2:41massive
- 2:42shark
- 2:42movie
- 2:43that
- 2:43I
- 2:43think
- 2:44is
- 2:44a
- 2:44lot
- 2:44of
- 2:44fun
- 2:44and
- 2:45I
- 2:45have
- 2:45a
- 2:45lot
- 2:45of
- 2:45time
- 2:45for
- 2:45that
- 2:46movie.
- 2:47But
- 2:47when
- 2:47I
- 2:47was
- 2:48thinking
- 2:48about
- 2:48doing
- 2:49Kaijune,
- 2:50there
- 2:50were
- 2:50two
- 2:51movies
- 2:51in
- 2:51particular
- 2:52that
- 2:52I
- 2:52really
- 2:52wanted
- 2:53to
- 2:53go
- 2:54into.
- 2:55And
- 2:55this
- 2:55is
- 2:55the
- 2:55first
- 2:56of
- 2:56those
- 2:56two
- 2:56movies
- 2:57that
- 2:57I
- 2:57really,
- 2:57really
- 2:57wanted
- 2:58to
- 2:58do
- 2:58for
- 2:58this
- 2:59particular
- 2:59season
- 3:00because
- 3:00it
- 3:00is
- 3:01time
- 3:01to
- 3:01bring
- 3:01out
- 3:01the
- 3:02big
- 3:02guns.
- 3:03And
- 3:03there's
- 3:03no
- 3:03movie
- 3:04bigger
- 3:05or
- 3:05indeed
- 3:05older
- 3:06on
- 3:07this
- 3:07podcast
- 3:08than
- 3:08the
- 3:09original
- 3:09kiKingKongngKongfrom
- 3:101933.And
- 3:12thisisgoing
- 3:13to
- 3:13beahugeepisode.
- 3:14We
- 3:14have
- 3:15so
- 3:15much
- 3:15to
- 3:15go
- 3:15into.
- 3:17So
- 3:17without
- 3:17further
- 3:18ado,
- 3:18here
- 3:18is
- 3:19the
- 3:19very
- 3:19old
- 3:20radio
- 3:20trailer
- 3:21for
- 3:21King
- 3:21Kong.
- 3:22Be
- 3:23warned,
- 3:23there's
- 3:24a
- 3:24lot
- 3:24of
- 3:24screaming.
- 9:00In
- 9:00New
- 9:01York
- 9:01harbour,
- 9:01Filmmaker
- 9:02Carl
- 9:02Denham,
- 9:03known
- 9:03for
- 9:03wildlife
- 9:04films
- 9:04in
- 9:04remote
- 9:05exotic
- 9:05locations,
- 9:06is
- 9:06unable
- 9:07to
- 9:07secure
- 9:07an
- 9:07actress
- 9:08for
- 9:08a
- 9:08female
- 9:09role
- 9:09he's
- 9:10been
- 9:10reluctant
- 9:10to
- 9:10disclose.
- 9:12In
- 9:12the
- 9:12streets
- 9:12of
- 9:12New
- 9:12York
- 9:13City.
- 9:13He
- 9:13finds
- 9:14AnDarrowandpromisesherthethrill
- 9:16ofalifetime,herbeingtheleadingladyinapicture.Theyaretofilmonan
- 9:21unchartedisland.
- 9:23On
- 9:23reachingtheisland,theyfindthenativetribepreparing
- 9:26tosacrificeayoungnativewoman.Thenativechiefofferstotradesix
- 9:31ofhiswomenforAnne,
- 9:33butthegrouprefusestogiveherover.
- 9:36Thatnight
- 9:37Anne
- 9:37iskidnappedby
- 9:38thenatives
- 9:39andtaken
- 9:39throughthebiggate
- 9:40Ann
- 9:41is
- 9:41kidnapped
- 9:42by
- 9:42the
- 9:43natives
- 9:43and
- 9:44taken
- 9:44likebeasttheycallKong.Let'srunthrough
- 9:48thecastofthismovie.WehaveFayWrayas
- 9:51AnnDarrow,
- 9:53RobertArmstrong
- 9:54asCarlDenham,BruceCabotasJack
- 9:57this
- 9:57movie.
- 9:58We
- 9:59have
- 10:00Fay
- 10:00Wray
- 10:01as
- 10:01Ann
- 10:02Darrow,
- 10:03Robert
- 10:03Armstrong
- 10:04as
- 10:04Carl
- 10:05Denham,
- 10:05Bruce
- 10:06Cabot
- 10:07as
- 10:07Jack
- 10:08Driscoll,
- 10:08Frank
- 10:09Reicher
- 10:10thenativechief.KingKonghasascreenplaybyJamesA.KrilmanandRuthRose,
- 10:16storybyEdgarWallaceandMerriamC.Cooper,andwasdirectedbyMerriamC.Cooperand
- 10:22King
- 10:22Kong
- 10:23has
- 10:23a
- 10:24screenplay
- 10:24by
- 10:24James
- 10:25A.
- 10:25Creelman
- 10:26and
- 10:26onthispodcastare
- 10:27SnowWhiteandtheSeven
- 10:28Meriam
- 10:29C.
- 10:291937and
- 10:30the
- 10:31was
- 10:31directed
- 10:32by
- 10:32Meriam
- 10:32C.
- 10:33Cooper
- 10:33and
- 10:34Ernest
- 10:34B.
- 10:351933overyearsagoandjustlikethosetwomovies,remainsageless.AndalthoughKing
- 10:44Kongisbeingincluded
- 10:46inKaiju,technicallyit'snotaKaijumovie.ThedefinitionofKaijubroadlyrefers
- 10:52tothegenreofgiantdestructivemonstersandtendstohavemetaphoricalmeaningsrepresentingthingslikeforces
- 10:58ofnatureandnuclearwarfare.Butthatdoesn'tmean
- 11:02King
- 11:03Kongisn'taKaijumovieinthemodernsense,
- 11:06nordoesitmean
- 11:06ithasnolinkstotheOG
- 11:09Kaiju.Kaijuasagenreisgenerallytracedbackto
- 11:13Godzillain1954,whichwasitselfdirectlyinspiredbytheBeastfrom20,000Fathoms.TheBeastfrom20,000Fathongsfeaturedspecialeffects
- 11:23fromRay
- 11:23Harryhausen,whowas
- 11:25Willis
- 11:25H.O',Brien,King
- 11:27Kong'svisualeffectssupervisor'sownprotege.O'Brienworkedonthe1925movieTheLostWorld,whichdirectly
- 11:35inspired
- 11:35KingKong.
- 11:37Sothetreegoesfromo'Brien
- 11:39to
- 11:39the
- 11:40LostWorldtoKingKongtoHarryhausentothe
- 11:43beastfrom20,000fathomstoGodzilla,whichthenbirthedtheentireKaijugenre.KingKongwasinventedbyMerrianC.Cooper,aglobetrottingadventurerwhowas
- 11:54alsoawarhero.He'dbeen
- 11:56shotdownmultipletimesinBothWorldWarIandthePolishRussoWarandescapedfromaprisoner
- 12:01ofwarcamp.The
- 12:02storywasconceivedpartlythroughhistripstoAfricaandSoutheastAsia
- 12:07toshootdocumentaryFilmswithErnestB.Schoedsack.Whichplantedthe
- 12:11ideaofsettingaprimitive
- 12:12giantape.
- 12:13was
- 12:14invented
- 12:14by
- 12:14Merian
- 12:15C.
- 12:15Cooper,
- 12:15a
- 12:16globe
- 12:17Cooper's
- 12:18friendDouglasBurdenhadtraveledtothe
- 12:20IndonesianislandofKomodo.And
- 12:22returned
- 12:22toNewYorkwithlivingspecimensofKomododragons.Puttingthemondisplayatthe
- 12:28BronxZoo.Cooperwasfascinatedbytheideaofexplorersventuringtoaremoteisland.Andcomingbackwith
- 12:34agiantcreature.Hisinitialconceptwasafilmaboutagorilla
- 12:39fightingKomododragons.
- 12:41He
- 12:41chosegorillasoverbaboonsbecausehefeltgorillashadmorepersonality.Andcrucially,gorillasatthetimewerealmost
- 12:48mythicalcreaturesto
- 12:49Westernaudiences.
- 12:50MeaningCoopercould
- 12:52shapethemintowhateverhewanted
- 12:54themto
- 12:54be.Sadly,
- 12:56theKomodo
- 12:57dragonsatthezoodiedshortlyafterarrival.
- 13:00Butthisalsodirectlyshapedthestory's
- 13:02ending.Becausewhenhewasthinking
- 13:04abouthisgorillapicture.CooperwantedtobringKongbacktoNewYork
- 13:08incaptivity.Andbecausehewasalittlebitofadramaqueen.Ratherthanhavingthecreaturesimplydiein
- 13:14azoo.Hewantedittoescape
- 13:17andcausehavoc.KomodosalsoinspiredKong'sname.CooperwasfondofwordsthatstartedwiththeletterK.Maybehewasthe
- 13:27originalKardashian.AndfollowingBurden'striptoKomodo.Cooper
- 13:31wantedto
- 13:32capturearealgorillafromtheCongo.
- 13:34Whichdoesn'tstart
- 13:35withK,buthas
- 13:36thatsamehardK
- 13:37start.CooperwasfascinatedbyBurdon'sadventuresAschronicledin
- 13:42hisbook
- 13:42DragonLizardsofKomodo.WherehereferredtotheanimalastheKingofKomodo.Itwasthis
- 13:49phrase,
- 13:49alongwithKomodoandKongo.And
- 13:52hisoverall
- 13:53loveforhardsounding
- 13:54K
- 13:54words.Thatgavehimtheidea
- 13:56toname
- 13:57the
- 13:57giantape
- 13:58Kong.Butthiswas
- 14:00allhappeningduringtheGreatDepression.
- 14:02AndCooperneededaproductionstudiotomakehis
- 14:05Kongfilm.Butheknew
- 14:07itwouldlikelycomeatgreatcost.InOctober1931,
- 14:11DavidO.Selznickhadbeenhiredasheadof
- 14:14productionatRKOPictures.Butthestudiowasstrugglingfinancially.
- 14:19Selznickchampionedthe
- 14:20unitproductionsystem.
- 14:22Which
- 14:22gave
- 14:23theproducersofindividualmoviesmuch
- 14:25greaterindependenceThantheyhadundertheprevailingcentralproducersystem.
- 14:30Afterachieving
- 14:31costsavings
- 14:32of30to40%.Selzick
- 14:34thenrecruited
- 14:35behind
- 14:35thecameratalent
- 14:36likeGeorgeCuka.AndandaskedCoopertojoinrko.Andalthoughhe'donlyproduced
- 14:42threefilmsinhiscareerthusfar.Cooperbegan
- 14:45workingasan
- 14:46executiveassistant.Andofficiallypitchedthe
- 14:49ideaforkingKonginDecember1931.Cooper's
- 14:54firstmovewastobring
- 14:55inEdgarWallace.Ahugelyprolificandpopular
- 14:59BritishcrimeandadventureWriterto
- 15:01draftthe
- 15:01script.WallacestartedworkinDecember1931,withCooper
- 15:06tellinghimexactlywhathewanted.
- 15:08IncludingWallace'sdraftcontainsseveralinstancesofattemptedsexualassaultandracial
- 15:14tensionsbetween
- 15:15characters.ThatfirstdraftwascalledtheBeast.Itwasdated5
- 15:20January1932andwascompletedshortlybefore
- 15:24Wallace's
- 15:24unexpected
- 15:25death.Hediedjust
- 15:27amonthafterfinishingit.
- 15:29Some
- 15:29ofhisideas
- 15:30didsurvive
- 15:31intothe
- 15:31finalfilm.Kong
- 15:33removingAnne'sclothesfromherbody.The
- 15:35rough
- 15:35outline
- 15:36ofthe
- 15:36NewYorkscenesandajunglechasesequencealltracedbacktowalldraft.JamesAshmore.Creelmanwasbroughtinnext,andhefound
- 15:45it
- 15:46difficulttomeetCooper's
- 15:47demands,feelingthereweretoomany
- 15:49fantasticalelementsforthe
- 15:50filmtobebelievable.Though
- 15:52heincorporatedCooper'srequests,thedialogueproved
- 15:56tobetooextensiveand
- 15:57Cooperwas
- 15:58unsatisfiedwiththework,FeelingthatCreelman'sdraftwasslowpaced,
- 16:02weighted
- 16:03downwithlongscenesofexpositionandwrittenon
- 16:06ascalethat
- 16:06wouldbeprohibitivelyexpensivetofilm.Creelmanproduced
- 16:10twofurtherdraftstitledTheEighth
- 16:13Wonder
- 16:13andKong,
- 16:14datedMarchandJune1932,respectively,before
- 16:19heexitedtheprocess.After
- 16:21Creelmanquit,Cooperstruggled
- 16:24tofindareplacementscreenwriterRuth
- 16:26Rosehadneverwrittena
- 16:28screenplaybeforeandhappenedtobeErnest
- 16:31Schoedsack'swife,
- 16:32but
- 16:32sheendedupbecomingthesecretweapon
- 16:35ofKingKong.ShegaveKongtheheart,butshealsotrimmed
- 16:39thefat.
- 16:41Rather
- 16:41thanexplaininghowKong
- 16:42wouldbetransportedtoNewYork,shecutfromtheislandtothe
- 16:47James
- 16:47Ashmore
- 16:47Creelman
- 16:48was
- 16:48brought
- 16:49in
- 16:49andgavethescriptsomethingCreelman'sversionlacked,ahumancore.SheincorporatedautobiographicalelementswithCooperhimselfthe
- 16:59basis
- 16:59ofthecharacterofCarlDenham,herhusbandinthetoughbuttenderJackDriscollandherselfin
- 17:06strugglingactress
- 17:07AnnDarrow.
- 17:08Shealsocreatedthefilm'sopeningsequenceshowingDenhammeetingAnneonthestreetsofNewYork.Andmost
- 17:14importantly,sheremovedthe
- 17:16extremesexualand
- 17:18racialelementsfromWallace'soriginaldraft,makingKongmoreinnocentinhisinteractionswithAnne.
- 17:26EdgarWallace'sinitialdrafthadbeencalledtheBeast,butRKOexecutiveswereunimpressedwiththetitle.
- 17:33DavidO.SelznicksuggestedJungleBeastasthefilm'snewtitle,butCooperwantedtonamethefilmafterthe
- 17:39main
- 17:40character.Heliked
- 17:41themysterywordaspectofKong'sname
- 17:43andthatthefilmshouldcarry
- 17:45thenameof
- 17:46aleadingmysterious,romantic,savagecreature
- 17:50ofthestory,suchaswithDracula
- 17:52andFrankenstein.RKO
- 17:55sentamemoto
- 17:56CoopersuggestingthetitlesKongKingofBeasts,Kong
- 18:00theJungleKingandKongtheJungleBeast,whichcombined
- 18:04hisAnd
- 18:05Selznick'sproposedtitles.Cooperwould
- 18:08eventuallynamethe
- 18:09storysimplyKong.WhileRuthRosewaswriting
- 18:12thefinalversion
- 18:12ofthe
- 18:13screenplay.Itwas
- 18:14DavidO.Selznickwhoaddedtheking
- 18:16toKong'sname.Inordertodifferentiateitfrom
- 18:19theoneworddocudramasofthetime.
- 18:22The
- 18:23oldArabianproverb.And
- 18:25lo,thebeastlookeduponthefaceofbeauty.Andit
- 18:28stayeditshandfromkilling.And
- 18:29fromthatdayitwasas
- 18:31onedead.
- 18:32showing
- 18:32Denham
- 18:33meeting
- 18:33Ann
- 18:33on
- 18:34the
- 18:34streets
- 18:35andC.Cooper.
- 18:35And
- 18:36isn'tarealArabian
- 18:37proverb.And
- 18:39KingKongdidn'teven
- 18:40haveacompletedscriptwhen
- 18:42itstarted
- 18:42filming.
- 18:43Andwhenitcame
- 18:44toputting
- 18:44acasttogetherduringpreproduction.
- 18:46Ann.
- 18:47amixofknownandupandcomingnames.RKO'soriginalchoiceforthe
- 18:52roleofAnnDarrowwas
- 18:53Gene
- 18:54Harlow.ButbecauseMGM
- 18:56putHarlowunderexclusivecontractduringthepreproductionphase,she
- 19:00becameunavailable.Cooperthen
- 19:03approachedFayWray,oneofthe
- 19:05Wampusbabystars
- 19:06in
- 19:061926.
- 19:08Aprolificactress
- 19:09sinceherteensand
- 19:10anestablished
- 19:11presence
- 19:11inhorror.Cooperofferedhertheroleof
- 19:14Anne.AndtoldRayshewouldbeplayingopposite
- 19:17the
- 19:18tallest,darkestleadingmanin
- 19:20Hollywood.Let'sbe
- 19:22honest,hewasn't
- 19:23lying.RobertArmstrongwas
- 19:25aMichiganbornveteran.Broadwayand
- 19:27silentfilm
- 19:28characteractorBruceCabot
- 19:30wasalreadysignedbyexecutiveproducerDavid
- 19:33O.SelznickAsacontractplayerwithinrko.Hewasthe
- 19:37leastestablished
- 19:38ofthe
- 19:38three
- 19:38leads.Whichcreatedanoddmarketingsituation.
- 19:42Becausealthough
- 19:42thefilm'sromanticsubplot
- 19:44belongsto
- 19:45Cabotand
- 19:45Ray.Itwas
- 19:46theestablished
- 19:47starArmstrongwho
- 19:48waschosenforpromotionalmaterial.Rather
- 19:51thantheunknownCabot.Interestingly,
- 19:54KingKongwasn'ttheonlymovieFay
- 19:56Wray
- 19:56andRobertArmstrong
- 19:57wereworkingonwithMerryandC.Cooper
- 19:59andErnest
- 20:00B.Schoedsack.
- 20:01Duringthe
- 20:02daytheywouldfilmKing
- 20:03was
- 20:04actually
- 20:04written
- 20:04by
- 20:05Merian
- 20:05C.
- 20:06Cooper.
- 20:06And
- 20:06Gameonthesamejunglesets.Rayand
- 20:09Armstrongwere
- 20:10essentially
- 20:11making
- 20:11twofilmsatonceon
- 20:13thesame
- 20:13soundstage.Withthesamedirectorssleepinginbetween.TheMostDangerousGameactuallyendedupcoming
- 20:19outin
- 20:201932.And
- 20:22Fay
- 20:22Wrayendedupstarringin
- 20:23awhopping11moviesin1933.SoKingKong
- 20:28of
- 20:28Ann
- 20:29Darrow
- 20:29was
- 20:29Jean
- 20:30areason
- 20:30for
- 20:30heravailability
- 20:31whichI'llcomebackto.Thiswasalso
- 20:34araremovie
- 20:35inthatthenativeislanderswereplayedbyactualblackpeople
- 20:39ratherthanwhite
- 20:40actorsinblackface.Whichwasunfortunatelysomethingprettycommoninthe1930s.Oneof
- 20:46themostnotableblackactorsinthemovieisNobleJohnson.Whoactuallyalsoappearedin
- 20:52theoriginalUniversal1932.TheMummyJohnson
- 20:56wasapioneerintheblack
- 20:57communityaswell
- 20:58astheblackactingcommunity.
- 21:01HefoundedLincolnMotionPictureCompanyin1916,an
- 21:05AfricanAmerican
- 21:05filmcompanythatproducedmovies
- 21:07calledracefilmsthatweremadeforan
- 21:10AfricanAmericanonlyaudience.Ata
- 21:13timewhen
- 21:13black
- 21:13peoplecouldn't
- 21:14gotoAmericanmovie
- 21:15within
- 21:16RKO.
- 21:16themainstreamfilmindustryignoredfilmsforblackpeople.Johnsonwas
- 21:21presidentofthecompanyforfour
- 21:23yearsbeforehisownactingcareerwastakingoffand
- 21:26hecouldn't
- 21:26manageboth.But
- 21:28hiscommitmenttoAfrican
- 21:29Americanfilmmaking
- 21:30was
- 21:30extraordinary.Hehad145
- 21:33actingcreditsoveracareerthatspannedfrom1915to1950,playingmostlyblackroles,but
- 21:40also
- 21:41NativeAmerican,ArabandAsianroles.Johnson
- 21:45wouldbe
- 21:45on
- 21:45with
- 21:46Merian
- 21:46C.
- 21:47Cooper
- 21:47and
- 21:48Ernest
- 21:48B.
- 21:48forthehastilymadesequel,SonofKong.But
- 21:52let'sbehonest,
- 21:53the
- 21:53humanactorsweren't
- 21:54thestarshere.Thestar
- 21:56ofthemovieisKonghimself,andheisjustamarvelouscreation.Andforthatwehavetoget
- 22:03intotheextraordinarywork
- 22:04of
- 22:05WillisH.
- 22:05O',Brien,whohasbeenmentionedonthispodcastbefore
- 22:09becausehewas
- 22:10thementortoone
- 22:11ofthegreatest
- 22:12animatorsofalltime.
- 22:13Theoneand
- 22:14onlyRay
- 22:15Harryhausenworkedunder
- 22:17o'
- 22:17Brienandlearnedthestopmotioncraftfrom
- 22:20him,
- 22:20but
- 22:21thatdidn't
- 22:21happenonKing
- 22:22Kong.Harryhausen'stutelageoccurredonMightyJoe
- 22:25Youngin1949.O'
- 22:28Brienhad
- 22:29worked
- 22:29onthe
- 22:29visualeffectsonHarryO.Hoyt's
- 22:31TheLostWorldfrom1925,
- 22:34andformuchof
- 22:34hisfeaturecareerheworked
- 22:36withRichardandMarcelDelgadotocreatedetailedstop
- 22:40motion
- 22:40models
- 22:40thatwereallbasedono'
- 22:42Brien'sdesigns,withrubberskin
- 22:44builtupovercomplexarticulatedmetalarmatures.
- 22:48Themodelscontainedabladderinsidetheskeletonmodelthatcouldbeinflated
- 22:52anddeflatedtogivetheillusionofbreathing.
- 22:56By
- 22:561931,O'BrienhadworkedwithHoyton
- 22:59aseries
- 23:00ofcancelledprojects,includingAtlantisforFirstNationalStudio,Frankenstein
- 23:05andCreationforRKOPictures.Creation'scancellation
- 23:10in1931would
- 23:12bethecatalystfor
- 23:13hisworkonKingKong.He'donlycompleted
- 23:1620minutesofeffects
- 23:18footagetoshowforanestimated$120,000developmentcost,andthestudio'sheadofproduction,whichwasMerryandC.
- 23:26Cooper,recommendedthecancellationofo'
- 23:29Brien'sprojectbecausehethoughtthestory
- 23:32wasboring.
- 23:33But
- 23:33he
- 23:33wasimpressedbytheeffectsworkandhealsowanted
- 23:36itforhisgiantgorillamovie,which
- 23:39isonewaytogetyourownway.Cancelone
- 23:42movieso
- 23:43theguy
- 23:43canworkontheoneyouwant.O'Brienandthedinosaurmodelshe'dcreatedforthecancelledproject.Wereputtowork
- 23:51onKingKonginstead.Ando'Briensetto
- 23:53workbuildingthelegendaryapex.Cooper
- 23:56insisted
- 23:57thatKongcouldn'tbeportrayed
- 23:59asanactorin
- 24:00asuitfor
- 24:01Kong'sphysicalproportions.O'BrienconsultedzoologistsattheAmerican
- 24:06MuseumofNaturalHistory.To
- 24:08getexact
- 24:08measurementsfora
- 24:09bullgorilla.Theisland'sjungleenvironments
- 24:12weremeticulouslyconstructed.Miniature
- 24:14setswithplantsdrawnfromknown
- 24:16junglesettings.Created
- 24:18bylayeringglasspaintings,
- 24:20whichwerecreatedbyMarioLarinagaandByronL.Crabb.
- 24:25ThephysicalKongpuppetwas
- 24:26amarvelofminiatureengineering.WhileMaryand
- 24:29C.CooperenvisionedKongasbeing40to
- 24:3250ft
- 24:32tall.WillisO'
- 24:34Brienandhiscrewbuiltthemodelsandsets.ScalingKongtobeonly18ft
- 24:39tallonSkullIsland.Andrescaled
- 24:41to
- 24:42be24foottallinNewYork.Although
- 24:44insomesceneshewasrescaledtobeaslargeassix
- 24:4760ft
- 24:48tall.
- 24:49The
- 24:49puppetwasmadewithcotton
- 24:50andlatex,
- 24:52coveredwith
- 24:52rabbitfur.Overapreciselymachinedball
- 24:55andsocketmetalarmature.Amoresophisticated
- 24:58internal
- 24:59skeletonthathadever
- 25:00been
- 25:00usedbefore.
- 25:02Fourstop
- 25:02motionmodels
- 25:03werebuiltin
- 25:04total.Threefromaluminium,foam,rubber,
- 25:07latexandrabbitfur.Andasimpler
- 25:09leadandfur
- 25:10model
- 25:11usedspecificallyforthefamousEmpireStateBuildingfallforclose
- 25:15up
- 25:16shots.Theteamalsobuiltgiantfullscalearms,handsandfeet.Whilea
- 25:21giant40footmechanizedmodelhead.Usedcablesandleverstosimulatefacialexpressions.And
- 25:28couldcarryhumansinitsmouth.RKO'spromotionalmateriallistedKong'sofficial
- 25:34heightas50foot.
- 25:36Thesoftfur
- 25:37onthepuppetretained
- 25:38indentsand
- 25:39movementsfromtheanimator's
- 25:40fingersbetweenframes.WhichactuallymakesKong
- 25:44feelmorereal.But
- 25:46itwasn'tjustKong,butawholehostofprehistoriccreaturesinhabiting
- 25:50SkullislandorSkullMountain,asit'sknown
- 25:52inthismovie.AndthesewerebroughttoLifebyO'Brienandhisassistant
- 25:56animatorsE.B.BuzzGibson,CarolSheppard,
- 26:01Marcel
- 26:01Delgado,OrvilleGoldnerandFredReef.Manyofthesecreaturesweretheonespreviouslycreatedforcreation.Andmanyof
- 26:11the
- 26:11techniquesusedin
- 26:12makingKingKongwereeithercompletely
- 26:14revolutionary.Ortheyweremakingitup
- 26:16astheywentalong.
- 26:18Thestop
- 26:18motionanimationwas
- 26:19generallyfilmed
- 26:20first.Withthe
- 26:21liveactionfootagematchedto
- 26:22itafterwards.
- 26:24FayWrayactuallyendedupspending22
- 26:27hours
- 26:27positionedina
- 26:28faketree.Reactingtoabattlesceneprojectedontoatranslucentscreen
- 26:32behindher.Whilethecamerafilmed
- 26:35herreaction.Animmersivesetupthatallowedhertoconvincinglyportrayhercharacter'sobservationoftheanimatedbattle.Buttheprocesscouldalsoruninreverseandtheactorswouldbeshotfirst
- 26:47withtheanimation,
- 26:48thencreated
- 26:49tomatchtheirmovementsandreactions.Toachievethat,O'Briencreatedtheminiature
- 26:55rearprojectioncamerain1933.Whichallowedhimtoprojectapartoftheshotasaminiatureframebyframe,thenproceedmaking
- 27:04thestopmotionaccording
- 27:05towhat
- 27:06washappening
- 27:07intheminiature.Rearprojection
- 27:09wasthe
- 27:10backboneofmostofthehumanKong
- 27:12interaction.KingKongisoftencreditedas
- 27:15thefirstfilmtouseminiaturerearprojectionstocreatespecialeffectssequences.Formorecomplexshotswherelive
- 27:22actorshadtoappearwithinthesameframe
- 27:24asKong,theyusedtheDunningprocessinventedbycinematographer
- 27:29CarolH.Dunning,
- 27:31which
- 27:31usedblueand
- 27:32yellowlightsfilteredandphotographedintoblackandwhitefilmbypackingthe
- 27:36cameratocombinetwostripsoffilmsimultaneously
- 27:39creatingthefinalcompositeshotincamera.Itwasusedinsceneslikethe
- 27:44climactic
- 27:45momentwheretheplanecrashesfromthetop
- 27:47oftheEmpireStateBuilding.AndwherenativesrunthroughtheforegroundwhileKongbattlesothersat
- 27:52thewall.Forwider
- 27:54shots,theyusedtheWilliamsprocess,inventedbycinematographerFrankD.Williams.Itdidn'trequirecolored
- 28:01lights
- 28:01andusedanoptical
- 28:03printertosynchronizea
- 28:04projectorwithacamera.Soseveralstripsoffilmcouldbecombinedintoasinglecompositedimage.
- 28:10Itwasusedin
- 28:11the
- 28:11scenewhereKongshakesthe
- 28:13sailorsoffthe
- 28:14logandwhereKongpushesthegatesopen.Theopticalprinterwouldcontinue
- 28:18tobe
- 28:19used
- 28:19infilmuntil
- 28:20the
- 28:21late1980s
- 28:22when
- 28:22itwas
- 28:22supersededbydigital
- 28:24compositing.Animation
- 28:26forthemoviewascompleted
- 28:28after55weeksandthe
- 28:30actorsfilmedonseveral
- 28:31stages
- 28:32overaneightmonthperiod.Someactors
- 28:35hadsomuchtimebetweenfilmingKingKongthattheywere
- 28:38abletofullycompletework
- 28:40onotherfilms.AndthisishowFayWrayhas
- 28:43somanyfilm
- 28:44credits.In1933,herphysicalexperienceofmakingKing
- 28:49Kongwas,byherownaccountinherautobiography,gruelling.Notonlywasshealmostconstantlyscreaming,sheistheoriginalscreamqueen.Shealsohadtobalance
- 29:00herself
- 29:01inKong'ssix
- 29:02footlong
- 29:02giantmechanicalhandattachedtoa
- 29:05leverwhichcouldberaised
- 29:06orloweredwithwindmachinesgivingmotiontoherclothes.FayWrayreally
- 29:11wentthroughitonthismovie.AndIthinkher
- 29:14performancereallydoesgenuinelyconvey
- 29:17thefearthatsheisfeelingatthetime.Becauseatanymomentshe
- 29:21could
- 29:21havefelloffthathand.Theydidn'treallyhavehealthandsafety
- 29:26inthe1930s.
- 29:28Pharaohwouldalsothenrepeatallofherscreamsinasoundstudio.Thestopmotionworkin
- 29:34particularwaspunishing.Mostsequencehadtobeshotnon
- 29:39stop,oftenrequiring20hourworkdays.Sometimesthe
- 29:43shrubsusedto
- 29:44dressthe
- 29:45Miniaturesetswilted
- 29:46duringfilming,butsimilarly,
- 29:48at
- 29:48onepoint,oneofthe
- 29:49plantsflowered,whichlefta
- 29:51day'sworthofanimationrendereduseless.
- 29:55Beforea
- 29:55scenecouldbestarted,all
- 29:57thelights
- 29:57onthe
- 29:57soundstagehadtobereplacedwith
- 29:59new
- 29:59ones
- 29:59toensuretheywouldn'tflicker.
- 30:01Andthestagehadto
- 30:02besealedso
- 30:03nobodycouldenterorleave
- 30:05topreventanywind
- 30:06frommovingthefoliage.KingKongfinishedfilming
- 30:10inFebruary1933,anditwasfilmedonlocation
- 30:14atSanPedroHarbour,California,
- 30:16theShrineAuditoriuminLosAngelesfor
- 30:19the
- 30:19Kong
- 30:19onstage
- 30:20scenesandthebacklotatCulver
- 30:22StudioswherethejungleandGreatWallsetswerebuilt,aswellasminiaturesofthe
- 30:27shipanda
- 30:27shipset.Beforethefilm'srelease,Cooperhired
- 30:31DelosW.LovelacetowriteanovelversionofKingKong.Thefilm'snovelization,
- 30:37which
- 30:37film
- 30:38bipacking
- 30:38the
- 30:39camera
- 30:39to
- 30:40combine
- 30:40two
- 30:40public
- 30:41domainthroughafailuretoincludecopyrightnotice,makingthecharactersandstorypublic
- 30:47domain.ThisisimportantbecausetherightstoKingKongare
- 30:51messier
- 30:52than
- 30:52the
- 30:52jungle
- 30:52afterKong'sdinosaurkilling
- 30:54spree.WhenMerryandC.Coopercreated
- 30:58KingKong,heassumedheownedthecharacteroutright,maintainingthathe'donlylicensedittoRKOfortheinitialfilmandthe
- 31:06sequel.Butthatassumption
- 31:08turnedouttobe
- 31:10alittlebitdisputed,shallwesay?In
- 31:131962,Cooper
- 31:15foundoutthatRKO
- 31:16waslicensingthecharacterthrough
- 31:18JohnBecktoTohoStudiosinJapanforafilmprojectcalledKing
- 31:23Kong
- 31:24versusGodzilla.Cooperhadassumedhis
- 31:27rightswereunassailableandand
- 31:29wasbitterlyopposed
- 31:30totheproject,includingthefacttheirKongwould
- 31:33beamanina
- 31:34suit,somethingthathewasvehemently
- 31:37against.In
- 31:381963,hefiledalawsuitagainstJohnBeck,TohoandUniversal,thefilm'sUScopyright
- 31:45holder.Butthe
- 31:46lawsuitneverwentthrough
- 31:48because,
- 31:48asitturnedout,hewasnotKong'ssolelegalowner,as
- 31:53hehadbelieved
- 31:53himselftobe.A
- 31:55crucialturningpointcame
- 31:56aroundthetimeofthe1976remake,whenit
- 32:00wastimeto
- 32:00sort
- 32:01outwhoownedwhatrko,Universaland
- 32:04Cooper'sson
- 32:06were
- 32:06allmet
- 32:06withthecourt'sdecisionthatKingKong
- 32:08wasinthe
- 32:09publicdomain
- 32:10becauseCooper
- 32:11hadfailedto
- 32:11renewthecopyrightonthe1933film'snovelization.InafourdaybenchtrialinLosAngeles,JudgeManuelRealgave
- 32:21hisverdict
- 32:22on24November1976,affirming
- 32:25thatthe
- 32:25KingKong
- 32:26novelizationandserializationwere
- 32:28indeedin
- 32:29thepublicdomainandthatUniversalcouldmake
- 32:31itsownfilmaslongasit
- 32:33didnot
- 32:34infringeon
- 32:34originalelements.Inthe1933RKOfilm,which
- 32:38atthatpointhadnot
- 32:40yetpassedintothepublic
- 32:41domain.
- 32:42Thisruling
- 32:43becameknown
- 32:44astheCooper
- 32:44Judgment,anditmeantthebasicstory,thecharacterconceptandthenameKingKong
- 32:49fromthe
- 32:50novelizationcould
- 32:51befreelyusedbyanyone.RKO
- 32:54Picturesstillowns
- 32:56therightsto
- 32:56the1933filmandits
- 32:58sequel
- 32:59SonofKong,also
- 33:00in1933.However,
- 33:02domesticdistributionrightsto
- 33:04thosefilmsareownedby
- 33:05WarnerMedia.StudioCanalownsthe
- 33:081976KingKongfilmand
- 33:11its1986sequel,havingabsorbedtheDe
- 33:14LaurentiisEntertainment
- 33:15Group,with
- 33:16Paramount
- 33:17Picturesholding
- 33:17domestic
- 33:18distributionrights
- 33:19tothat
- 33:19variant.TheMerryand
- 33:21C.Cooperestateclaimsownershipovertheoriginalbookandpublishingrightsforthecharacter.Buton1January2029,the1933
- 33:32filmwill
- 33:33enter
- 33:33thepublicdomain,atwhichpointanythingKongrelatedasdepicted
- 33:38in
- 33:38the1933RKOversion
- 33:40ofKingKongwill
- 33:42befreeforanyonetouse.It'sworthaddingatthispoint
- 33:46thatWarnerBros.Version
- 33:47ofKongwithintheMonsterverse,whichisSkullisland,and
- 33:51anyofthe
- 33:52Godzillavs.Kongmovies,won'tbe
- 33:55affected
- 33:55becausethese
- 33:56morerecent
- 33:57filmsretain
- 33:58theirownseparatecopyrights.Butspeakingoflawsuits,in1982,Universalfiled
- 34:05alawsuitagainst
- 34:06Nintendo,whichhadcreateddonkeyKongin1981andwas
- 34:10reapinghugeprofitsovervideogame
- 34:13machines.
- 34:14Universal
- 34:14claimed
- 34:15thatNintendowasinfringingonitscopyrightbecauseDonkeyKong,beingalargegorilla,wasablatant
- 34:21ripoffof
- 34:22KingKong.Universalcontacted
- 34:25Nintendo,giving
- 34:26them48
- 34:27hourstoceasemarketingDonkeyKong,todisposeofall
- 34:30DonkeyKonginventory,
- 34:31andtohandover
- 34:32allrecordsofprofitsmadefromthegame.Nintendo'sattorney,HowardLincoln,
- 34:38was
- 34:38atfirstinclinedtosettleforfivetosevenmilliondollars.Buteventually
- 34:42hedecidedtofight
- 34:43becauseherealizedthat
- 34:44Donkey
- 34:44KongwasthesignthatNintendohad
- 34:47madeitbig.On
- 34:483January1983,UniversalthensentceaseanddesistletterstoNintendo'slicenseesofferingthreestopusingDonkeyKongcharacters,
- 35:00obtaina
- 35:00license
- 35:01from
- 35:01Universalorbesued.LincolnhiredJohnKirbytorepresentNintendoincourt.Duringthe
- 35:08court
- 35:08battleandsubsequentappeal,thecourtsruledthatUniversaldidnothaveexclusivetrademarkrightsto
- 35:14theKing
- 35:14Kongcharacter.Theyruledthetrademark
- 35:17wasnot
- 35:17amongtherightsCooperhadsold
- 35:19toUniversal.Whiletheyhadamajorityoftherights,theydidnot
- 35:23outrightowntheKingKongnameandcharacter,andthecourt'srulingnotedthatthename,
- 35:28title
- 35:29andcharacterofKongno
- 35:31longersignifiedasingle
- 35:32sourceof
- 35:32origin,soexclusivetrademark
- 35:35rightswereimpossible.ThecourtsalsopointedoutthattheKongrightswereheldby
- 35:39threeparties,rko,whoownedtherights
- 35:42totheoriginalfilmanditssequel.The
- 35:45dinodeLaurentiiscompanyowned
- 35:46therights
- 35:47tothe1976remake,
- 35:49andRichardCooper,
- 35:50thesonofMerry
- 35:51andC.Cooper,ownedworldwidebookandperiodicalpublishingrights.
- 35:56Thejudge
- 35:57thenruled
- 35:57that
- 35:57RKO,
- 35:58Universal
- 35:58onlythoserightsintheKingKongnameandcharacterthatRKOCooperand
- 36:03theDinoDe
- 36:04Laurentiis
- 36:04companydidnot
- 36:05own.The
- 36:07courtofappealsalsonotedthatUniversalknew
- 36:10thatit
- 36:10didnothavetrademarkrights
- 36:12to
- 36:12KingKong,yetproceededtobroadlyasserttheirrightsanyway,andthis
- 36:17amountedtoa
- 36:17wantonandrecklessdisregardofNintendo'srights.Second,Universaldidn'tstopafteritasserteditsrights
- 36:24toNintendo
- 36:25andembarkedonadeliberatesystematiccampaignto
- 36:29coerceallofNintendo'sthird
- 36:31partylicenseestoeitherstopmarketingDonkeyKongorpayUniversalroyalties.Finally,Universal'sconductamountedtoan
- 36:39abuseof
- 36:40judicialprocessand
- 36:41inthatsensecausedalongerharmtothe
- 36:43publicas
- 36:44awhole.Universal
- 36:46alternatively
- 36:46arguedtothe
- 36:47courtsfirstthatKingKong
- 36:48was
- 36:49partofthepublicdomain,andthensecondthatKingKongwasnotpart
- 36:53ofthe
- 36:53publicdomainand
- 36:54thatUniversalpossessedexclusive
- 36:56trademarkrightsto
- 36:57it.Universal'sassertionsincourtwasbasednotonany
- 37:00goodfaithbeliefintheirtruth,butonthemistakenbeliefthat
- 37:04itcouldusethe
- 37:04courtstoturnaprofit.AndbecauseUniversalmisrepresentedtheir
- 37:09degreeofownershipofKingKong,claiming
- 37:11theyhadexclusivetrademarkrightswhen
- 37:13theyknewthey
- 37:13didnot,andtriedtohaveit
- 37:15bothwaysincourt.
- 37:16Regardingthepublicdomainclaims,thecourtsruledthatUniversalactedinbad
- 37:21faith.
- 37:22Theywereorderedtopayfinesand
- 37:23allofNintendo'slegalcostsfromthe
- 37:26lawsuit.That,alongwiththefactthat
- 37:28thecourtsruled
- 37:29that
- 37:29therewassimplynolikelihood
- 37:31ofpeople
- 37:31confusingDonkey
- 37:33Kong
- 37:33with
- 37:33KingKong,causedUniversalto
- 37:35lose
- 37:36thecaseandthesubsequentappeal.Andasfor
- 37:39Nintendo'slawyer,
- 37:40John
- 37:40Kirby,
- 37:41Nintendoconsideredhimto
- 37:43havesavedtheentirecompanyby
- 37:46defendingthemagainstthelawsuitfromUniversal.Somuchsotheynamed
- 37:50thevideogamecharacterKirbyafterhim
- 37:54aswellas
- 36:56boughthima$30,000boatwhichwaschristenedDonkeyKong.It'stimetosegue
- 38:02intothe
- 38:02obligatoryKeanureferenceofthisepisode.Andifyoudon'tknow
- 38:05whatthatis,it's
- 38:06whereItryand
- 38:07link
- 38:07every
- 38:07moviethatIfeaturewithKeanuReeves
- 38:09becauseheisthebestofmen.AndI
- 38:13truly,
- 38:13trulydonotknowhow
- 38:15tolink
- 38:15Keanu
- 38:16ReevestoKingKong.It'ssoverydifficult.Whenamovie
- 38:20came
- 38:20outin
- 38:201933,literallylikealmost100yearsago,
- 38:25thereis
- 38:25nophysicalwayofmelinking
- 38:27Keanutothismovie.However,I
- 38:31decidedthatIdidn'twanttoletitbeat
- 38:33me.Sotheeasiestwaytolink
- 38:35KeanuReevestothis
- 38:36movieisthatKingKongisthekingof
- 38:39hisworldandKeanuisthekingofmen.Andit'sgoofy,but
- 38:45it'stheonly
- 38:45waythatIcando
- 38:46it.Butlet'stalkaboutthemusic.Becausethescore
- 38:51forKing
- 38:51Kongreallydidrepresenta
- 38:53shiftinthescoring
- 38:54ofmoviesingeneral
- 38:56andoftheuseof
- 38:57nondiegeticmusicin
- 38:59movies.RKObosseswereinitially
- 39:02skepticalabout
- 39:03theneedforanoriginalscore.However,they
- 39:05agreedtoletMaryandC.Coopertrytoimprovethe
- 39:09filmwiththeuse
- 39:11ofmusic.Thestudiosuggestedusingoldtracks
- 39:14inordertosavemoney.ButCooperaskedregularRKOmusicalcollaborator
- 39:19Max
- 39:20Steinertoscorethefilm.
- 39:22Andbecausethefundingforthefilmhadalmostrunout,hesaidhewouldpersonallypayfortheorchestra.Steiner
- 39:29wrotethescoreintwoweeksandCooper
- 39:31paidhim$50,000.AndKingKongbecame
- 39:35alandmarkoffilmscoring,includingtheuseof
- 39:38leitmotifsforKong,Anneandthejungleitself.SteinerwouldsaythatKingKongwasmadefor
- 39:46music.KingKong'sroarwasactuallyalion'sroarand
- 39:49atiger'sroarcombined,
- 39:51sloweddownandranbackwards.Uponthereleaseofthefilm,thescorereceivedverylittle
- 39:58criticalreviewbecauseitwasmostly
- 39:59overshadowedbythespecialeffects.
- 40:02However,itstartedtoreceivemoreattentionasthemoviebecamemorefamousintheyearsthatfollowed.ComposerChristopherPalmerwrotethat
- 40:10thescoremarkedtherealbeginningsofHollywoodmusic.
- 40:14Andprofessorofmusicatthe
- 40:15UniversityofNottinghamMervynCookaddedthatitalmostsinglehandedlymarked
- 40:20the
- 40:20comingofageofnon
- 40:22diegeticfilmmusic.It
- 40:24wasthefirstfeaturelength
- 40:25originalscoreforatalkie.Thefirstmajor
- 40:28Hollywoodfilmtouseanoriginalfilmthematicscore
- 40:31ratherthanbackgroundmusic.Thefirstscoreto
- 40:33usea
- 40:3446pieceorchestraand
- 40:36thefirstscoreto
- 40:37berecordedonthreetracks.
- 40:39Oneforsoundeffects,
- 40:40onefordialogueand
- 40:41oneformusic.
- 40:43KingKongisknownasaprecode
- 40:46adventurehorror
- 40:47monsterfilm.Andtounderstandwhatthatactuallymeansandtheimplications
- 40:50ithadonrereleasesofthe
- 40:52movie,weneedtotalkbrieflyaboutthehayscode.In1922,aftersomerisquefilmsandaseriesof
- 41:00scandalsinvolving
- 41:01Hollywoodstars,thestudiosenlistedPresbyterianelderWillH.Hayes
- 41:07torehabilitateHollywood'simage.Andthewayhedid
- 41:11thatwas
- 41:11theHaysCode
- 41:12whichwas
- 41:13adoptedin1930.Butoversight
- 41:15waspoorand
- 41:16itwasn't
- 41:17rigorouslyenforced
- 41:18untilthe1st
- 41:19ofJuly
- 41:201934.SotheyearafterKing
- 41:23Kong,with
- 41:23the
- 41:24establishmentoftheProductionCodeAdministration.ThisiswhyKingKong,releasedinMarch1933,isclassified
- 41:32aspreCode.Therules
- 41:34technicallyexistedonpaper,butnoonewasreallyenforcingthem.Whatfinallyforcedgenuineenforcementinlate1933
- 41:42and
- 41:42escalated
- 41:43throughoutthefirsthalfof
- 41:441934wasAmerican
- 41:47Catholicswholaunchedacampaignagainstwhat
- 41:49theydeemedtheimmoralityofAmerican
- 41:51cinema.KnownastheLegionofDecency.This,alongwithapotentialgovernmenttakeoveroffilmcensorship,wasenoughpressuretoforcethestudios
- 42:02tocapitulateto
- 42:03greateroversight.Thecodeprohibited
- 42:06profanity,suggestivenudity,graphicorrealisticviolence,
- 42:10sexual
- 42:11persuasions,andrape.
- 42:13Ithad
- 42:13rulesaroundthe
- 42:14useofcrime,costume,dance,religion,
- 42:17nationalsentiment
- 42:18andmorality.More
- 42:19specifically,
- 42:20itforbadetheuseofprofanity,obscenityandracialslurs,Graphic
- 42:25violence,criminality,substanceuse,
- 42:27promiscuity,miscegenation,
- 42:29andhomosexuality.
- 42:31Itwaseven
- 42:32whymarriedcoupleswererequiredtosleepinseparatebedsforat
- 42:35leasttwodecadesofHollywoodfilmmaking.Whiletheoriginalreleaseof
- 42:40KingKongin1933wasprecode,whenitwasreissued
- 42:44in1938,
- 42:46the
- 42:46newlyempoweredProductionCodeAdministrationdemandedthat29scenesfromtheoriginalversionbe
- 42:52cutbeforethefilmcould
- 42:53begranted
- 42:54asealofapproval.ThesescenesincludethescenewhereKongholdsan
- 42:59unconsciousAnnecaptivewhilegentlypeelingoff
- 43:02herdress.Thatwasconsideredcompletelyunacceptableandeliminated
- 43:06entirely.Thebrontosaurusattackwaseditedsothecreatureclaimedonlythree.Threevictimsratherthan
- 43:12five,because
- 43:13apparentlythree
- 43:13deathsaremore
- 43:14morallyacceptablethanfive
- 43:15deaths.
- 43:16ThescenewhereKongbitesoffawoman's
- 43:18headandstompsavillagertothegroundwasremoved,aswasascenewherehegrabsawoman
- 43:23fromahotel
- 43:24roomandthrows
- 43:25hertoherdeathafterrealizingshe
- 43:27isn'tan.
- 43:29TheCode
- 43:29remainedineffect
- 43:30until1968,when
- 43:32itwasreplacedbytheMPAAfilmrating
- 43:34system,whichisstillinusetoday.
- 43:37RKOdidn'tpreserve
- 43:38copiesofthefilm'snegativeorreleaseprintswiththeexcised
- 43:41footage.
- 43:42And
- 43:42thecutsceneswereconsideredlostformanyyears.In1969,
- 43:46a16millimeterprint,includingthe
- 43:49censoredfootage,wasfoundinPhiladelphia.Thecutsceneswereaddedtothefilm,restoring
- 43:54it
- 43:54toitsoriginaltheatricalrunningtimeof100minutes.Restorationteamsthenpainstakingly
- 44:00reintegratedthe
- 44:01moments
- 44:02thathaddisappearedacrossdecadesofreissues.AnoriginalreleaseprintlocatedintheUKinthe
- 44:081980swasfound
- 44:10tocontainthecutscenesinbetterquality.After
- 44:13asixyearworldwidesearchforthebestsurvivingmaterials,afurtherfullyDigitalrestorationusing4Kresolution
- 44:21scanningwas
- 44:22completedby
- 44:23WarnerBrothersin2005.KingKong's
- 44:27Hollywoodpremierewasheld
- 44:28on24March1933inGrauman'sChineseTheaterandwasofficiallyreleasedon7April
- 44:361933.Despitethismoviecoming
- 44:39outduringtheGreatDepression,KingKongdid
- 44:42extremely
- 44:43wellfinancially.Onits
- 44:44openingweekend
- 44:45itearned$90,000andduringitsfirstrunin1933earnedaprofitof$650,000.Infact,the
- 44:55weekendafterKing
- 44:56Kong's1933released,newlyelectedPresident
- 44:59FranklinRooseveltorderedabankholidaytohaltthe
- 45:03panicinthefinancial
- 45:04sector.KingKongwasthenrereleasedin1952afterDisney'sSnowWhiteandtheSeven
- 45:10Dwarfs
- 45:10ownrerelease
- 45:11wassuccessful.
- 45:13Beforethe
- 45:131952rerelease,thefilmisreportedtohaveworldwiderentalsof$2,847,000,including$1,070,000fromthethe
- 45:24UnitedStatesandCanadaonprofits
- 45:26of$1,310,000.Profitsfromthe
- 45:31rereleasewereestimatedbythestudiotobeabout$2.5
- 45:34million,which
- 45:36wasabout
- 45:36double
- 45:37whatthefilmearnedin1933.
- 45:40NowI'm
- 45:41reliablytoldthe
- 45:42RottenTomatoesdidn'texist
- 45:44in1933,but
- 45:45I'malsotoldthatonits
- 45:47releaseitreceivedgenerallypositivereviews.And
- 45:50contemporaryreviewson
- 45:51RottenTomatoes
- 45:52are
- 45:52overwhelminglypositive.Withthe97%
- 45:55ratingandthesite'scriticalconsensusreading.
- 45:58KingKongexploresthesoulofamonster,making
- 46:02audiencesscreamandcrythroughoutthe
- 46:04film,
- 46:05in
- 46:05largepartdueto
- 46:06Kong'sbreakthrough
- 46:07specialeffects.Somuchso,theAcademyofMotionPictureArtsandSciences
- 46:12alsocalled.
- 46:13TheAcademy
- 46:14wantedtogiveWillisH.O'BrienanOscarforhistechnical
- 46:17effectson
- 46:18KingKong.ButWillis
- 46:20insistedthateach
- 46:21of
- 46:21his
- 46:21crewalsoreceivean
- 46:22Oscar,whichtheAcademy
- 46:24refusedtodo.
- 46:25Soo'Brien
- 46:26refusedtoaccepttheOscarawardfor
- 46:28himself.Hewouldfinallywin
- 46:30hisAcademyAward17yearslaterforMightyJoeYoungin1949,thefilmonwhichhetrainedayoungRay
- 46:38Harryhausen.ThesameyearofKingKong'srelease,
- 46:42asequel
- 46:43was
- 46:43fasttracked
- 46:44and
- 46:44released
- 46:45aswellthat
- 46:46was
- 46:46calledSonofKongthatcameoutinDecember1933.Soliterallyninemonthslatertheymadeasequel.Inthe
- 46:541960s,RKOlicensedthe
- 46:56King
- 46:56KongcharactertoJapanesestudioToho,which
- 46:59madetwofilms,King
- 47:01Kong
- 47:01vsGodzilla,thethirdfilminToho'slongrunningGodzillaseries,
- 47:05andKingKongescapes.
- 47:07In
- 47:071976,producer
- 47:09DinodeLaurentiisreleaseda
- 47:11modelremakeof
- 47:11KingKong,followed
- 47:13bya1986sequelcalledKingKongLives.In1998,alooselyadapteddirecttovideoanimatedversion.TheMightyKongwasdistributedbyWarnerBrothers.In
- 47:242005,UniversalPictures
- 47:26releasedanotherremakeof
- 47:27King
- 47:28Kong,cowrittenanddirectedbyPeterJackson,whichis
- 47:32setinthe1930s.As
- 47:33intheoriginalfilm,legendarypicturesofWarnerBrothersmadeskullisland
- 47:39in201717,whichservesas
- 47:41partofacinematicuniversecalledtheMonsterverse,
- 47:45followedbythesequelsGodzillavsKongin2021andGodzillaXKongtheNewEmpire
- 47:51in2024.
- 47:53Asequel,GodzillaXKongSupernova,isplannedforreleaseon
- 47:5726thMarch2027.KingKongisincredible,butit'salso
- 48:03manyotherthingsthatIcan't
- 48:05nottalkaboutinthisepisode.And
- 48:07it'snotaparticularlynice
- 48:09subject
- 48:09to
- 48:09talkabout,
- 48:10butweneed
- 48:10totalkaboutitbecausetheracialsubtextofKingKongis
- 48:16thereanditcanbeseenasracist
- 48:19propagandaanditcan
- 48:20alsobeenjoyedasspectacular
- 48:23entertainment.Andboththingscanbetrue
- 48:26atonce.Andthisisespecially
- 48:27relevant
- 48:28toKingKong.
- 48:29Youcan'treallyescapefrom
- 48:31theaccusationsofof
- 48:32blatant
- 48:33racism.
- 48:34King
- 48:34Kongpremieredat
- 48:35atime
- 48:36when
- 48:36blackmenwereregularlydepictedasape
- 48:39likeinpopularculture.Racialexploitationmovieswere
- 48:43athing.
- 48:44The1930swas
- 48:46duringthebeginningof
- 48:47theGreatMigration,when
- 48:48thousandsofblack
- 48:49Americans
- 48:50wereleavingthesouthern
- 48:51statestomovetothe
- 48:52nation'sbiggestcities.Thegreateconomiccrisis
- 48:56ofthe
- 48:56Depressionledtomassunemploymentandanexodusofpopulationfromsouthernstates,stateswithlargeblackpopulations,intocitieswheretheywereconcentratedinghettos.
- 49:09Fearoftheeconomiccrisisand
- 49:11fearoftheblack
- 49:12population
- 49:13fedeach
- 49:14otherinthe
- 49:15white
- 49:15Americanimagination.KingKongwasrootedin
- 49:19anexplicitly
- 49:20racistperiodofAmericanhistoryand
- 49:23supported,at
- 49:24leastimplicitly,theculturalunderstandingsharedwidelybywhiteAmericansofthequote,unquote,danger
- 49:31posed
- 49:31byAfricanAmericanmen.ThemostwidelydiscussedinterpretationofKingKongisthatitfunctionsasacodedrepresentationofblackmasculinity,specificallythe
- 49:41whitesupremaciststereotypeofthesexuallythreateningblack
- 49:45man.ScholarsdrawadirectlinefromtheBirthof
- 49:49aNation,the1915film
- 49:51aboutthesupposedblackmalethreattowhite
- 49:54womanhood,coincidentally
- 49:56thefilmthat
- 49:56helpedresurrecttheKuKlux
- 49:58Klanto
- 49:59kingKongin1933.TheSkullislandnativesaredepictedasprimitive,
- 50:05superstitious
- 50:06andraciallydistinctfrom
- 50:08thewhite,
- 50:08quote
- 50:09unquote,civilizedmentravelingto
- 50:11aremote
- 50:12islandtoextractsomething
- 50:13monstrousandbringitbacktoNewYork.Itmirrorsthelogicofcolonialismandtheslavetradealmost
- 50:20pointforpoint,whetherKong'sdeathrepresentsasymbolofblackothernesswhose
- 50:25deathrestoreswhiteorderasSomeculturalcriticshavesuggested,ora
- 50:30tragiclook
- 50:30attheviolentoutcomes
- 50:32ofa
- 50:32racistsociety,
- 50:33remainsanopendebate.
- 50:36Kong'sdeath,shotdownbywhitemenfrom
- 50:39biplanesatopAmerica'smosticonicskyscraper,hasbeenreadas
- 50:43white
- 50:44menrestoringwhiteorderafterthe
- 50:46threatof
- 50:47miscegenation.While
- 50:49KingKongisoftencomparedto
- 50:50the
- 50:51storyofBeautyandtheBeast,manyfilmscholars
- 50:53havearguedthatthefilmwasa
- 50:55cautionary
- 50:55taleabout
- 50:56interracial
- 50:57romance,eventhoughliterallyallandoesisscream
- 51:02and
- 51:02showfeartowards
- 51:03Kong.WhileCooperandShoedSack
- 51:06insistedincontemporaryinterviewsthattherewasnohiddenmeaningtoKingKong,aposthumously
- 51:12publishedinterviewwithCooperrevealedthathisinspiration
- 51:15forthefilmwasrooted
- 51:17intheimageof
- 51:17agiantapefallingfrom
- 51:19the
- 51:19tallestbuilding,whichwouldrepresenthowprimitivepeopleare
- 51:22doomedbymodern
- 51:23civilization.Whetherconsciously
- 51:26ornot,
- 51:26whether
- 51:27politicallyinspiredornot,KingKongreinforcedtheracialstatusquoandpreyeduponwhitefearsofblack
- 51:35Americans.Andyet,despite
- 51:37thecontroversysurroundingit,it'salsoliterallythe
- 51:41eighthwonderoftheworld.Thedetail,
- 51:43theimagination,thevisual
- 51:45splendoronscreen.It'simpressivestillnowin2026,imaginewhatit
- 51:51musthavefelt
- 51:52like
- 51:52toseeitin1933.It's
- 51:55asingularpiece
- 51:56ofcinematicart.Thescoreisincredible,it's
- 51:59entertaining,it'shorrific,it'sthrillingandit'sbeautiful.Andalmostsinglehandedlycreatedtheblockbusterdespitenotactuallydoingthat.Becauseasweallknow,thatwasJawsin1975.
- 52:11Butit'smoviemakingatthe
- 52:12heightofwhatweexpectmoviemakingtobe.Artistry,craftsmanship,emotionandrichnessofcharacter.Thelevelofdetail
- 52:21inKonghimselfjustblows
- 52:23mymind.Almostliketheydidn'thaveto
- 52:26gosohardonhim.Buthe'ssodetailedandcharismatic
- 52:29andattimes
- 52:30frighteninglyscary.
- 52:32His
- 52:32animalisticnaturecomes
- 52:33out
- 52:34andthrowscrewmembersto
- 52:36theirdeathandstompson
- 52:37people.Andtheninthesmallmoments
- 52:39withAnne,he's
- 52:40playfuland
- 52:40inquisitive.Theattentiontodetailand
- 52:43technicalbrillianceisjustastonishing.It'sworth
- 52:47addingthat
- 52:47IdoreallyenjoyPeterJackson'sremake.AndI
- 52:50actuallysawthat
- 52:50beforeIsawthe
- 52:51original.ButwhileJackson'sremakedoes
- 52:54alotofthingswell,itjust
- 52:56can't
- 52:56matchthisin
- 52:57terms
- 52:57of
- 52:57Kong.TheCGIKong
- 52:59looksgreat,photo
- 53:01realandactslikea
- 53:02real
- 53:02ape.Butthere'ssomethingabout
- 53:04this
- 53:04Kongthat'sprimeval.It's
- 53:07notslick.
- 53:07You
- 53:08seethe
- 53:08finger
- 53:08marksinthefurandyouknowahumanhasmade
- 53:11thismovieand
- 53:13itjustfeels
- 53:14sotangible.I've
- 53:16alwaysbeen
- 53:17in
- 53:17awe
- 53:17oftheworkofRayHarryhausenand
- 53:19howhegavehiscreaturessouls.Heclearlylearnedit
- 53:23from
- 53:23the
- 53:23bestbecause
- 53:23thethere'ssomethingagelessaboutthis
- 53:26Kong.Justthinkingabouthowmanymovies,
- 53:29how
- 53:29many
- 53:29franchisesowe
- 53:30adebttoKingKong.NotleastGodzilla,but
- 53:34alsoJurassicPark.I'msurethosebiggates
- 53:37werenotanaccidentalhomage.There'sprobablymuchI've
- 53:41missedin
- 53:41thisepisodeaspertainstoKong'slong
- 53:44lastinglegacythroughcinema,videogames,comics,books,themeparkrides,musicals.90plusyearsoflegacyishardtosummariseinonepodcastepisode
- 53:55byone
- 53:55podcaster,
- 53:57but
- 53:57in1933,a
- 53:58giantape
- 53:59climbeduptheEmpireStateBuildingandforeverbecameaniconic
- 54:03image
- 54:04incinemahistory.At
- 54:06atimeofGreatDepression,
- 54:07atatimewhenfascismwasgainingtractioninEurope,
- 54:11King
- 54:11Kongwastheescapism
- 54:13thepublicdesperatelyneeded.ItmaynothavebirthedKaijumovies,butitbirthedthe
- 54:19tragicmonstermovieandputthe
- 54:21focusonman'shubrisandtherelationship
- 54:24humanityhaswith
- 54:25thenatural
- 54:25world.Justlike
- 54:27arrogance,
- 54:28greed
- 54:28andignorance
- 54:29becameKong'suntimely
- 54:31end,
- 54:31humanityis
- 54:32alsoat
- 54:33risk
- 54:33ofthesamethingsandbeauty.
- 54:37Beautywillbetheend
- 54:38ofus
- 54:39all.Thankyouforlistening.Asalways,
- 54:41IwouldlovetohearyourthoughtsonKingKongandthankyoufor
- 54:44yourquestion.Continued
- 54:45support
- 54:45ofthispodcastNextepisode
- 54:49I'mgoingtogiveyouaquoteandthequoteis
- 54:52by
- 54:52TomoyukiTanakaandhesaidquoteIfeltlike
- 54:56doingsomethingbig.That
- 54:58wasmymotivation.I
- 55:00thought
- 55:00ofdifferentideas.Ilike
- 55:02monstermoviesandIwas
- 55:04influencedbyKingKongunquote.TomoyukiTanakawasthe
- 55:10Japanese
- 55:10film
- 55:11producerbestknown
- 55:12forcreating
- 55:14Godzilla.
- 55:15AndofcourseifI'mgoingto
- 55:17do
- 55:17KingKong,surelythelogicalnextmoveis
- 55:21totalkaboutGodzilla
- 55:23from
- 55:231954.Soplease
- 55:26joinmenextepisodefor
- 55:27thehistoryandlegacyofGodzilla.Thankyou
- 55:31forlistening
- 55:32toVerbalDiorama,atotallyfree
- 55:34and
- 55:34independentpodcast
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- 55:36relies
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