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Speaker 1: Seat the talk station.
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Speaker 2: Seven thirty eight fifty five KRCD Talk Station. Brian Thomas here,
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Speaker 2: back to the fifty five Carris In the Morning Show.
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Speaker 2: From We the People Convention dot org, the website where
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Speaker 2: you find Tom Zawastowski and his podcast Weekly among other
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Speaker 2: writing and reporting. Tom Zawastowski, Welcome back to the Morning Show.
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Speaker 2: My friend's always great having you on the show.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Brian. Yet you caused me to spit out
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Speaker 1: my coffee this morning when you were talking about the
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Speaker 1: failed Cincinnati schools wanting the tash bearer is a fund
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Speaker 1: of six hundred million dollars budget. Good god man, what's
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Speaker 1: in the water down there in Cincinnati?
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Speaker 2: I have I was questioning the reporting on that because
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Speaker 2: I read that and I'm like, WHA. So you know,
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Speaker 2: I'm not faulting Sean Delancy from WCPO for writing what
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Speaker 2: he wrote. I'm assuming that he got the numbers from
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Speaker 2: the meeting. He was out of the CINCINNTI Board of
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Speaker 2: Education trying to sort out their budget issues. But here's
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Speaker 2: what he said for people who weren't listening, because it's
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Speaker 2: mind blowing. In a presentation, administration officials explained the difference
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Speaker 2: between what the district would like to spend to achieve
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Speaker 2: its goal six hundred eighty eight million, eight hundred thousand,
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Speaker 2: and what the district's targeted spending to meet expected revenue was,
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Speaker 2: which is ten percent of that sixty million, nine hundred thousand.
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Speaker 2: I just whatever its goal was, that's a pretty blank
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Speaker 2: and expensive goal. It's coming into seven hundred million dollars
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Speaker 2: tom anyhow, I'm sure there's going to be tough.
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Speaker 1: And then and then you were talking about, you know,
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Speaker 1: the seventy nine million dollars the Republicans are going to
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Speaker 1: put into the Senate campaign. Yeah, and I was just
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Speaker 1: opening an email from Axios this morning, and I did
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Speaker 1: not know this number. This email was talking about funding
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Speaker 1: for this year's primaries. It's it's more. It's crazier than
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Speaker 1: we could even imagine. They had a quote in here
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Speaker 1: that said, in twenty twenty four Ohio had the most
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Speaker 1: expensive Senate race, with about four hundred and fifty million
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Speaker 1: dollars in spending according to Open Secrets, in just the
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Speaker 1: Senate race. It's crazy. And here's the problem. It's propaganda.
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Speaker 1: Why do they have to spend that much money because
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Speaker 1: they got to make you think Sharon Brown is something
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Speaker 1: completely opposite of what Sharon Brown is, which leads me
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Speaker 1: the voters are blind to it because they're just four
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars of ad spending.
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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, gracious, voters are blind to it, says
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Speaker 2: Tom Zawastowski. Whose fault is that?
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Speaker 1: Tom? This is what?
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Speaker 2: This is the point I try to make all the time.
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Speaker 2: And if people listen in the morning show, I presume
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Speaker 2: or at least on some level, weed dwells, you like
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Speaker 2: to find out what's going on locally, globally, internationally political,
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Speaker 2: and otherwise you pay attention to things. When I mentioned
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Speaker 2: John Houston, you know who he is. But what about
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Speaker 2: people who don't. What about people who are busy binge
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Speaker 2: watching their favorite show on Netflix every single day and
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Speaker 2: then they have, you know, their their their family obligations
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Speaker 2: and their job obligations, leaving them literally no time to
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Speaker 2: pursue something that they have no interest in pursuing, which
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Speaker 2: is paying paying attention to politics. Enter big giant spending
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Speaker 2: and ad campaigns that are literally propaganda designed it just
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Speaker 2: driven to try to convince you of something you shouldn't believe,
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Speaker 2: but only effective among low information voters. I mean, Tom,
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Speaker 2: if you ever see a political and you look at
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Speaker 2: it and you listen, who in the hell would believe
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Speaker 2: that that's the polar opposite of the truth. And you
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Speaker 2: know why I can react that way because here I've
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Speaker 2: got all of the information supporting why I know that
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Speaker 2: is an outright campaign lie. Most people don't come armed
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Speaker 2: with that information, Tom, meaning one hundred million dollars two
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Speaker 2: hundred million dollars worth seventy nine million dollars for one
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Speaker 2: Senate campaign that actually works to some degree, and that's
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Speaker 2: frightening in and of itself.
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Speaker 1: Well, I would remind your listeners that Ohio, you to
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Speaker 1: its credit, used to have a law that made it
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Speaker 1: illegal to lie in campaign ads, and the Supreme Court
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Speaker 1: overruled it and said lying in political ads is free speech. Yep. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's insane. It's insane, and the big money is just
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Speaker 1: out of control. And that's seventy nine million dollars. You're
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Speaker 1: absolutely right, that probably is half of what the thems
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Speaker 1: are going to spend on Sharon Brown. So we got
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Speaker 1: to get out and we got to talk to each other,
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Speaker 1: and we've got to you know, we got to listen
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Speaker 1: to this show, right because every day you have these
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Speaker 1: candidates on, you want to know who they are. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: listen to how Brian Thomas talks to them and get
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Speaker 1: them to say who they are. That's how you know
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Speaker 1: how to vote. But boy, you know, they just shove
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Speaker 1: these ads out there and it has a double sided effect.
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Speaker 1: That's really frustrating to me because the first thing is
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Speaker 1: it makes you want to turn off to TV because
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Speaker 1: you've seen it seven hundred times. Yeah. Right, So then
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Speaker 1: the only ones who get influenced are the ones who
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Speaker 1: can sit through that craft.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, how bad do you want to watch? Wheel of Fortune?
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Speaker 1: Oh? That's right, set to go, took away.
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Speaker 2: Tom's Awastaski. We're talking about the USDA shutting down stores
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Speaker 2: because of snap leave.
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Speaker 1: Talk station.
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Speaker 2: Seven thirty nine. If you have KIRCD talk station. We
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Speaker 2: the People Convention dot org that's Tom's Awastowski's website does
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Speaker 2: a Weekly podcast. A lot of great information there, including Tom,
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Speaker 2: what's with the USDA shutting down stores because of food
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Speaker 2: snap or SNAP that the Supplemental Nutrition Assistant Program program
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Speaker 2: they're cracking down on that.
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Speaker 1: Finally, well, see, I put this article out because I
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Speaker 1: am not going to start I'm not going to be
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Speaker 1: doing articles anymore about well, we've we've discovered fraud. We
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Speaker 1: we've found fraud, but they never recover any money, They
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Speaker 1: never do anything, they never stop anything. This article I
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Speaker 1: wanted to show people that the Trump administration is actually
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Speaker 1: taking action. So what they did is really good. The
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Speaker 1: Department of Agriculture has the squal of fied fifteen hundred
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Speaker 1: and sixty two retailers associated with Snap fraud and this
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Speaker 1: stable I love this, the seven hundred and sixty illegal
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Speaker 1: point of sale devices you know in their stores, which
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Speaker 1: has resulted in the prevention of nearly eight hundred and
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Speaker 1: thirty five million dollars in fraudulent Snap transition actions.
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Speaker 2: That's just this October. The seed Tom thirty five million
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Speaker 2: is since October of last year.
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Speaker 1: Wow. Yes, but we want to see action. To me.
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Speaker 1: I think this fraud issue, Brian is going to be
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Speaker 1: one of the major voter issues in the twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: four six elections in November. People are going to go crazy.
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Speaker 1: And so I had a story last week where they
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Speaker 1: talked about Trump administration has three an that's three wins,
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Speaker 1: where they recovered five hundred million dollars, okay, in their
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Speaker 1: war on fraud in Florida and in Nevada and California.
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Speaker 1: That's what we want to see. Here's the question. What
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Speaker 1: is Congress doing when you say we identified nine billion
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Speaker 1: dollars in fraud in Minnesota. The next day, Congress should
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Speaker 1: have obsession where they vote to cut whatever program that
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Speaker 1: was by nine million dollars, right, because you obviously don't
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Speaker 1: need that nine million dollars if it was being stolen.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 1: They haven't done a damn thing.
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Speaker 2: Actually, that's a that's an really excellent point. You made,
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Speaker 2: very simple, but very it's a perfect point. Nine billion
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Speaker 2: dollars went into the ether. It didn't serve a single person,
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Speaker 2: not that anybody was really being served in a leering center.
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Speaker 1: Tom.
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Speaker 2: We all understand that there were no children in these
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Speaker 2: in these various facilities, So nothing is getting accomplished. Nine
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Speaker 2: billion dollars just disappears, period, One single City. I don't
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Speaker 2: understand how the entire world of American politics isn't a
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Speaker 2: fire of this, because is I love to point out,
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Speaker 2: this isn't Democrat money, it isn't Republican money. It's the
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Speaker 2: American taxpayer's money. And while some you know, politicians in Minneapolis,
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Speaker 2: for example, might want the flow of money to continue,
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Speaker 2: they are stabbing each and every one of their own
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Speaker 2: constituents who isn't benefiting from this theft right in the back.
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Speaker 2: You go to work and you were taking your paycheck.
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Speaker 2: We're taking your salary, and we're going to continue to
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Speaker 2: fund this outrageous theft of the very money that you
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Speaker 2: worked for. Man, I don't think. I don't know how
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Speaker 2: anybody can support that or it doesn't get outraged over
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Speaker 2: that concept.
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Speaker 1: They're going to be outraged because it's twofold. First of all,
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Speaker 1: we didn't recover any of that nine million dollars, and
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Speaker 1: now we're not getting it. You got to do both.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's like the tax code. You know,
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Speaker 2: they'll pass the tax provision tom and then someone will discover,
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Speaker 2: oh my god, there's a loophole. Now the loophole may
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Speaker 2: have been put in their intentionally. You know, you know,
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Speaker 2: or someone discovered that there in fact was a workaround
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Speaker 2: over what the IRS was trying to accomplish with whatever
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Speaker 2: provision you found the loophole in. This is a giant
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Speaker 2: blanket loophole, the ability to set up these fake industries,
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Speaker 2: these fake businesses, these LLC's easily apply for approval to
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Speaker 2: become some leering center provider and continue to rip off
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Speaker 2: the American taxpayer, stealing money from them for years and years,
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Speaker 2: and all the while it had been reported to the
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Speaker 2: Minneapolis or the Minnesota officials. Everybody from the governor down
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Speaker 2: and everybody in a capacity to stop the fraud the
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Speaker 2: theft was aware of it, and why didn't they do
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Speaker 2: anything about it? The retort has been, well, we were
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Speaker 2: accused of being racist. That's the only argument they came
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Speaker 2: up with.
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Speaker 1: Really, Oh, go watch in my podcast this past Saturday.
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Speaker 1: If you go to our podcast page at Rebuild Convention,
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Speaker 1: the links to every story are there, and listen to
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Speaker 1: the woman who worked in many A, Minnesota, who identified
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Speaker 1: the fraud and told them about it, and listened to
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Speaker 1: her story about what they did to her. Don't tell
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Speaker 1: me they didn't know. They knew everyone from walls on down,
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Speaker 1: and they wanted this fraud to happen, and they went
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Speaker 1: after any decent citizen who stood up and said, hey,
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Speaker 1: they're stealing us blind. Then her story was, I mean,
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Speaker 1: i'll tell you what, it was very compelling. So we
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Speaker 1: got to stop it. And I'm just telling you, I'm
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Speaker 1: to the point now, Brian, where I'm concerned that the
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Speaker 1: vast majority of these social programs are fraud schemes. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: this isn't this is not a bug, it's a feature,
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Speaker 1: and that in California they've been using it to fund
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Speaker 1: their democratic efforts and steal elections. Furthering my point, I
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Speaker 1: got to do this.
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Speaker 2: It isn't a loophole that allowed the ease in which
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Speaker 2: the fraud to take place took place. It was intentionally
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Speaker 2: designed to allow fraud and theft to occur. You think, yeah,
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Speaker 2: gotta stop, we can't afford it. It's bankrupt.
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Speaker 1: I believe the thirty eight trillion dollars were in debt
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Speaker 1: all of it was fraud. I really believe that. And
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Speaker 1: they're saying there's way one site seven trillion dollars in
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Speaker 1: the budget that's fraud, and that's the set saying that
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Speaker 1: that was must saying that would go and all that
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Speaker 1: multiply that times the last fifty ten years, you get
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Speaker 1: thirty eight tillion dollars real quick. They installed thirty eight
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Speaker 1: tory dollars that they borrowed on our name.
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Speaker 2: Yes they did, Tom's Awasowski. We the People can mention
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Speaker 2: to bring it back and talk about latest on the
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Speaker 2: property tax issue here now and why Ohioans might be
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Speaker 2: against data centers more. We either People Convention dot org,
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Speaker 2: Zimmerheating and Cool see the.
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Speaker 1: Talk station.
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Speaker 2: Seven forty nine. If you've up KIRCD talk station Brian
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Speaker 2: Thomas or Tomas Awastowski from We the People Convention dot org.
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Speaker 2: Check out his page bookmarket here what he has to
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Speaker 2: say on his podcast every week. Pivoting over latest on
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Speaker 2: property tax is obviously a huge issue here in the
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Speaker 2: state of Ohio. As you're going back to the Cincinni
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Speaker 2: public schools overall, like seven hundred million dollars, desireless whatever,
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Speaker 2: it's going to be funded by property taxes in spite
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Speaker 2: of the fact that the Supreme Court said that is
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Speaker 2: an unconstitutional funding mechanism twenty years ago. Tom, that's hilarious,
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Speaker 2: But the fact remains that people don't like property taxes,
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Speaker 2: especially when they jump thirty forty percent in one single
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Speaker 2: Trium oral review. Viva Romas will be running on rolling
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Speaker 2: the property tax rates the back to the pre COVID
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Speaker 2: levels twenty nineteen and then limiting the increases to an
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Speaker 2: inflation rate, which sounds to me like a reasonable direction
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Speaker 2: to go to. But you know, you got that ballot
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Speaker 2: and issued out out there that will actually memorialize in
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Speaker 2: the Ohios Constitution the eradication of property taxes generally speaking,
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Speaker 2: and that's got a lot of politicians freaking out as
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Speaker 2: well as a lot of teachers union. So where are we.
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Speaker 1: Well, A big development this week. Quite frankly, I was
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Speaker 1: surprised to see this. But Brian Massey are a great patriot,
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Speaker 1: a good guy, and the people behind the Axe Ohio
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Speaker 1: tax repeal, you know, Constitution amendment effort. He has decided
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Speaker 1: that this Thursday, April twenty third, they're going to have
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Speaker 1: a press conference and they're going to disclose how many
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Speaker 1: signatures they have to get the amendment on the ballot.
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Speaker 1: And he had sworn that he would not do that.
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Speaker 1: You know, he basically was, you know, keeping it completely secret.
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Speaker 1: And for some reason he's decided this Thursday to kind to,
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Speaker 1: you know, make an announcement. Now, he could announce they
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Speaker 1: have enough stress and they need four hundred and eighteen
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Speaker 1: thousand certified signatures, and they're trying to collect six hundred
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Speaker 1: and twenty thousand to make sure that they have enough.
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Speaker 1: I would be shocked if that is true. But he
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Speaker 1: may be saying, Okay, here's how many we have, and now,
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Speaker 1: if you want to repel private taxes, you've got to
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Speaker 1: help us between now and June thirtieth. So here, go
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Speaker 1: to our website and side. It's gonna be one of
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Speaker 1: those two things. My guess is the latter. But it's
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Speaker 1: very interesting that he's decided that it's time for them
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Speaker 1: to disclose how many signatures they have.
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Speaker 2: And the deadline again is the end of June.
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Speaker 1: Yes, June thirty yeth you have to have your signatures
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Speaker 1: turning into Secuary States. Then they have to again. And
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Speaker 1: I cautioned people even if they came out Thursday and said,
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Speaker 1: we've got, you know whatever, six hundred thousand you know signatures.
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Speaker 1: I've done this before. I'm one of the few humans
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Speaker 1: living in Ohio that has actually passed a constitutional amendment.
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Speaker 1: When I was the president of you'll how Liberty Council
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Speaker 1: in twenty and ten and eleven when we stallhow Healthcare
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Speaker 1: Amendment right. And it's hard because when you turn in
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Speaker 1: your signatures, and remember they've been collecting these for like
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Speaker 1: a year now, people have moved, people have died, signatures
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Speaker 1: are invalid, and you quickly go from oh, here's my
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Speaker 1: six hundred and twenty thousand and two. Whoops, you're three
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Speaker 1: thousand short because you're down to four hundred and ten. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So just be aware that you know, even though they
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Speaker 1: may announce that they've got signatures, that doesn't mean that
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Speaker 1: secure state has already said that they're valid.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just have to note you know, they're going
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Speaker 2: to be really close the checking the signatures and the
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Speaker 2: eligibility of someone who assigned the petition, and they're looking
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Speaker 2: very closely at it to see if you are eligible
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Speaker 2: and registered to vote in the state of Ohio. That's
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Speaker 2: like more effort than they pay to keep in track
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Speaker 2: of the voter roles in most states.
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Speaker 1: Time, and isn't an interesting too The people who are
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Speaker 1: doing that might have an interest in making sure that
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Speaker 1: that signature isn't valid exactly because they're involved with some
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Speaker 1: of these agencies that are getting these property taxes. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: very very scary dynamic for sure.
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Speaker 2: All right, nice pivot over As we approach the top
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Speaker 2: of the are with the inside Scoop went and Hall,
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Speaker 2: the author of Code Read the Left, the Right, China
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Speaker 2: and the race to control AI. One of the topics
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Speaker 2: I have on my list to speak about you with
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Speaker 2: you with Tom is why Ohioans might be against data centers.
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Speaker 2: I mean, my position on always is this. I I've
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Speaker 2: just come to the conclusions I hate really pretty much
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Speaker 2: everything there is to do with AI. But it's not
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Speaker 2: stopping people are going they are whoever is the force
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Speaker 2: behind this, They're going forward with it. So we either
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Speaker 2: you know, feed at the trough of whatever profits might
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Speaker 2: be out there, or we let other states get the benefit,
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Speaker 2: or maybe China get the benefit if we don't pursue
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Speaker 2: it ourselves. But in terms of the state of Ohio,
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Speaker 2: where are we on this one?
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Speaker 1: Tom? Well, first of all, I encourage all of your
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Speaker 1: listeners and viewers to listen to that you know, segment
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Speaker 1: about Code Red. That's a really important book and he's
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Speaker 1: got some very important information. So here's where I'm att
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Speaker 1: and I put out a pretty strong email last week
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Speaker 1: because there was a video of a young man speaking
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Speaker 1: in Revenna, Ohio against the data centers, and it was
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Speaker 1: getting kind of viral coverage and people were praising it,
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Speaker 1: and I pretty much came out and attacked it as
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Speaker 1: basically I called it, you know, on typical tom Z fashion,
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Speaker 1: this was an expert class and left this propaganda, okay,
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Speaker 1: And so I kind of take his speech apart. You
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Speaker 1: can see that at Portage countyteaparty dot com if you
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Speaker 1: want to watch that video and get my analysis. Here's
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Speaker 1: the problem, Brian, in my opinion that the lack of transparency.
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Speaker 1: People are going to these township meetings, county meetings and
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Speaker 1: just saying, well, tell me about the water, tell me
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Speaker 1: about the noise, tell me about the power use, okay,
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Speaker 1: and they're getting nothing. They're getting no information. They're being told, well,
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Speaker 1: we signed an NDA, so we can't tell you anything.
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Speaker 1: That is pausing people to freak out. And I am saying,
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Speaker 1: we've got to stop hiding behind the curtain. What are
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Speaker 1: you hiding? Let's talk about because I believe two things. One,
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Speaker 1: just like in fracking, when they try to demonize fracking,
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Speaker 1: you can frack safely. If you don't frack safely, it's
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Speaker 1: a choice driven by greed and you should go to prison.
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Speaker 1: But you can frack safely. You can build data centers
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Speaker 1: that are good for the community and good for America. Okay,
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Speaker 1: but don't tell me that you're not gonna expose how
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Speaker 1: they're gonna get their power, how they're gonna get what
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Speaker 1: water they're gonna use, what noise pollution, stuff like that.
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Speaker 1: The bottom line is. But here's the kicker, and I
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Speaker 1: make this point in my article at porgekaytprity dot com.
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Speaker 1: It's a national security interest. This is the bottom line.
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Speaker 1: The Chinese are behind and the guy from Code Read
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Speaker 1: he's gonna tell you the Chinese are funding this misinformation
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Speaker 1: about data centers to get good amrias in Ohio to
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Speaker 1: fight data centers so the Chinese can win the fight.
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Speaker 1: That's the gods honest truth. That soundsact you hear that
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Speaker 1: in the next segment.
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Speaker 2: That does not shock me at all. And I don't
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Speaker 2: know if it's true. I trust Corey what he sent
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Speaker 2: me before. I just got a quick message Tom on
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Speaker 2: the signatures. Uh, Corey says, ax attack has tax has
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Speaker 2: one million two hundred and thirty thousand signatures already. I
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Speaker 2: asked him where he got that information. He said, a
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Speaker 2: quarter to their Facebook page. I'll get you the links.
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Speaker 2: The last text I got from him, so who knows.
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Speaker 2: Keep your popcorn out, Tom, I think I know you'll be.
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Speaker 1: He that would be an amazing achievement, that would be historic,
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Speaker 1: beyond all beliefs, is going to be