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August 31, 2026 | The Jon Justice Show · The Jon Justice Show: Presented by Center of the American Experiment

• 0:29
  SPEAKER_35: And it's Monday, the John Justice show, presented by American Experiment.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_35: I am your host, John Justice, and good morning to all the early uh risers today.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_35: Producer Devin pushing the buttons.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_35: We've got Andrew Langer, president of the Institute for Liberty, joining us a little bit uh later on uh this hour.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_35: We'll dive into uh the continued controversy surrounding President Donald Trump uh renaming Lake Ontario into Lake America.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_35: Uh Andrew Langer isn't uh completely on board with that.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_35: Yeah, I don't really care either way.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_35: I think it's funny.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_35: Uh we'll talk about that with uh Andrew, along with a host of other issues.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_35: Uh also um Trump reshaping America's energy policy.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_35: Uh, the global uh energy supply lines will have information regarding his attempt in light of the fact that the Iran conflict continues.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_35: Trump's um attempt to lower the gas prices, tapping into Venezuelan oil, lots to dive into, and all that news broke after uh Friday's show.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_35: Mike Lindell loses his bid for a recount.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_35: That uh latest um setback, we'll put it that way, as Mike Lindell continues to try to uh grab attention after losing the primary, uh, comes from the Minnesota Supreme Court.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_35: So we will state Supreme Court.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_35: So we'll get into that just after uh seven o'clock today.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_35: More uh ICE and the DFL, another boycott of Target.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_35: We have education news to uh discuss here on the show today.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_35: Lots to cover in the wake of the of the weekend, and I hope you had a great one.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_35: So, some programming notes.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_35: We have new additions to the John Justice show.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_35: We have a brand new blaster line where hopefully the audio is improved.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_35: Okay, we have a brand new number.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_35: That number is 651-964-0294.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_35: Now, if you've already become accustomed to leaving us a voice message via the blaster line on the old number, uh have no fear.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_35: If you call the old number, it will be sent immediately to the new number.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_35: And with the new number and hopefully improved audio quality as we continue to try to grow the show.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_35: You can also text the show via that same number.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_35: I can look at them right over here.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_35: As a matter of fact, I did a little test yesterday and somebody texted me and said, uh, keep up the great work, to which I responded, I will.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_35: Thank you very much.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_35: So uh the new uh voice or text blaster line is 651-964-0294.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_35: Again, 651-964-0294.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_35: It's gonna take me a while to memorize that one on my own, too.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_35: So I want to talk a little bit about the Minnesota State Fair breaking a bunch of attendance uh records uh over the weekend, Center of the American Experiment, uh, myself included.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_35: Uh, we were there on uh Saturday, and thank you so much to everybody who uh came out to uh say hello, to spin the wheel, and to get yourself some cool free uh prizes, uh courtesy of Center of the American uh Experiment.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_35: Now, to that point, we did have some blasts that have already rolled in this morning to the new line at 651-964-0294.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_21: Hey John, I'm here.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_21: I am following up on the podcast because I just can't get enough for you.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_21: I just can't quit you.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_21: Hey, on Friday, you said uh love me like the state fair with on a hat for Peggy Flagg.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_21: Well, that's not hard for me to do because I hate the state fair.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_35: Uh-huh.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_21: Have a great day.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_21: I know.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_35: So I have, I'm I'm kind of I'm really indifferent to the state fair.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_35: I completely respect anybody who loves the state fair, especially growing up with it.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_35: I had a lengthy, well, I say lengthy conversation.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_35: Melinda and I were talking about it uh over the over the weekend because it's, you know, there's there's things about the fair that I wish were easier.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_35: I wish it was easier to get to the fair.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_35: That's always a difficult uh process, especially when you're only going to be there for a certain uh period of time, like like I was on Saturday.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_35: So Melinda ended up having to go and and drop me off.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_35: But for the individuals who grew up with the with the fair, like I completely understand why you love it.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_35: I may not understand it, but I understand why you love it, especially from the nostalgia standpoint.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_35: It was packed on.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_35: Like it was okay in the morning because there was a little bit of rain, but when I went to leave, uh, it was it was pretty packed.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_35: Which makes me question whether or not we needed to go through the whole rigmarole of working with the the gangs, the muddy and the veil to stop them from rumbling.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_35: Because it seemed to me that there wouldn't be a lot of space to go and rumble based off of how close all the bodies were that were traversing through the fairgrounds, at least on Saturday in the afternoon while I was there.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_30: A new blaster line?
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_30: That caught me off guard.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_30: Now I gotta think of what I was gonna say.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_30: Uh oh yeah.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_30: Did you see our fearless leaders uh leading the charge at uh the Great Minnesota get together this last week and weekend?
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_30: Just showing their faces in public like they didn't just you know lose nine billion dollars and fraud under their watch.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_30: Tell you the gall of these people to come out and just be able to just mingle with the crowd and have smiles on their faces.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_35: Well, they have no shame.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_35: I mean, when you look at those on the left, and plenty of examples on the show this morning.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_35: I mean, going out to the fair uh in the midst of all of the various controversies, and I know the point that you're making, but it's not surprising, it's not surprising at all.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_35: There was a photo, and I don't have it, um, uh Don Allen, uh prominent uh social media uh commentator, prominent voice within the black community here in Minneapolis.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_35: He had posted this online, and it was two fairly famous um individuals within hip-hop and rap.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_35: Apparently they were at the fair over the weekend.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_35: I don't know, don't know if they were performing.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_35: I don't know what it was, but they were at the fair over the weekend.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_35: And there was just a benign story regarding these two individuals being at the fair.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_35: But the photograph that local media used was one of the two of these prominent individuals within hip-hop standing there on both sides of the frame with Amy Klobuchar right in the middle.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_35: There was no, like Amy Klobuchar wasn't even attached to the story.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_35: It was just these dudes are at the fair.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_35: This is what they think about the fair.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_35: Oh, and by the way, we'll just toss in a random picture of Amy uh Klobichar uh just for for good for good measure because we're carrying the water for the for the left.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_35: 651-964-02 uh 94.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_35: And again, we do have a new uh text line along with our new um blaster line.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_35: So you can use that number, 651-964-0294, for both texts and for leaving us a uh voice message.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_35: As a matter of fact, I have a text that just rolled in, just adding you to my phone.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_35: Have a fantastic show.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_33: See, this is how it's gonna work here on the show.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_33: Very excited about that.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_35: Plus, we have a phone number now.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_35: So now when it comes to guests, we have three options to bring our guests on.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_35: So Andrew Langer should be joining us uh via Zoom coming up again at 6:30 uh this morning as your comments continue to uh roll in here on the John Justice show.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_35: Uh so for the second day in a row, and this was heading into Friday, the Minnesota State Fair did send a set an attendance record.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_35: Opening day, the previous record um was blown past by about 16,000.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_35: Friday marked um a high water mark.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_35: That was 171,233, and that increased by almost 32,000.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_35: So over 200,000 individuals.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_35: Two straight record uh setters in the rear view mirror, 2026 uh is uh on pace to be a massive uh year.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_35: The most attended year overall was 2019.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_35: Oh, it was right before COVID.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_35: You had what, two, a total of 2,126,551 people went to the fairgrounds.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_35: The fair has not surpassed two million visitors since then, but it came close both of the last two years when attendance exceeded 1.9 million.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_35: Yeah, I am my expectation is that they're gonna end up blowing, blowing past that, that record.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_35: And we'll have further stories of the left uh continuing to try to exploit uh Operation Metro Surge.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_35: We know that uh uh Governor Jim Walls has his uh truth counsel now when it comes to uh Metro Surge.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_35: That report is gonna drop on October 31st.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_35: In the meantime, you still have outlets like KSTP trying to associate the amount of fraud to specifically the dollar amounts attached to those who have been convicted.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_35: And as I mentioned last week on the show, I'm convinced that is nothing more than a setup so that when this truth council releases their report right at the end of October, ahead of the November election, they can go and say, with the final week or weeks left, the DFL is going to be able to say Operation Metro Surge cost us more than fraud here in Minnesota.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_35: And to that point, and the reason why I bring it up now ahead of when I talk about these issues uh next hour is I've already seen people online that have been going and saying, hey, uh, you know, people are coming out to the fair in droves because of what happened with Operation Metro Search.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_35: Like there's a correlation there.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_35: Like people are so angry about ICE being here that they decided to go to the fair to make themselves feel better.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_35: Or or something.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_35: But that's the I saw that multiple people making that claim over the weekend.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_16: Morning, John.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_16: See, the Dems are constantly crying about uh unaffordability and telling us the economy is so bad.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_16: Well, could they please explain how we're breaking attendance records at the fair?
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_16: That's a very good point.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_35: See, that's a better line of thinking than what other people have proposed.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_35: So I'm standing in line on um on Friday.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_35: Okay.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_35: So I'm standing in line on Friday, and a gentleman walks up, and I've met this gentleman before.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_35: He has approached me at previous fairs.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_35: Uh he's a foe of the show from the standpoint of he disagrees with me completely in terms of my politics, but he is a very reasonable, a very reasonable dude.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_35: Okay.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_35: Uh but he's the perfect example of your typical Democrat in 2026.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_35: Okay, so he comes up, he waits in line like everybody else.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_35: He comes up and I shake his hand.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_35: Hey, thanks for, you know, thanks for stopping by.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_35: I appreciate it and all that.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_35: And he says, I have a I have a question for you, Mr.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_35: I think he was calling me Mr.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_35: Justice.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_35: I have a question for you, Mr.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_35: Justice.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_35: He's like, How can you expect the Minnesota GOP to deal with the fraud when they have the biggest fraudster in history sitting in the White House?
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_35: I think he tossed in the Trump was a pedophile too, if I'm not mistaken.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_35: But I know for sure that he called him the biggest uh fraudster in the White House.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_35: And so I, you know, and I had a line of people that were waiting, so I, you know, I'm just trying to keep it brief.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_35: And I just said, well, first off, regardless of how you feel about Trump, the issue of Trump in DC being the president has very little to do with the politics of the GOP candidates and specifically those running for governor here in Minnesota.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_35: Those are two separate things.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_35: So even if you think that Trump is a fraud, it doesn't undermine the efforts that Republicans in the state of Minnesota, were they to win the statewide races, what they would do to go to counter fraud.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_35: So his counter to that was well, if the GOP wins the elections, then they will simply cut services, healthcare services, Medicare serv Medicaid services for the people that need it most, and then give uh breaks to the most wealthy, the 1%, the millionaires and billionaires.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_35: I mean, it was the total regurgitation of the talking points that you see constantly online coming from your leftist talking heads.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_35: It was again, it was a futile attempt to try to get into a conversation with this with this individual.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_35: And I and I tried to, I said, well, no, hold on.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_35: When it comes to cuts for Medicaid or health insurance, as you mentioned, that is a part of rooting out the fraud, eliminating the ability of those who are not and should not be receiving or are not eligible to receive these Medicare payments, this health care.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_35: You know, on top of that, we have low barriers of entry.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_35: We need to catch the fraud before it ends up exploding, which the DFL ended up uh ignoring.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_35: And when it comes to those cuts for the most wealthy, those individuals are still contributing to the country's prosperity in ways far beyond the tax burden or lack thereof that they that they carry.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_35: At that point in time, his eyes glazed over.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_35: He just said, Hey, you know, thanks for being so even Keel.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_35: I love listening to your show, even though I disagree with everything that you have to say.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_35: I still listen on a daily basis and keep up the good work.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_35: I felt like I did a decent job in that moment.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_35: Let's go back to the blaster line this morning.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_35: Again, brand new phone number is 651-964-0294.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_12: Of course, they're out there smiling and not even paying attention to the$9 billion in fraud because they don't believe it.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_12: And then they've got the leftists like Tom Howard or not Tom uh Howard from KSTP that are carrying the water for them, doing the articles, doing the stories that it's not real, that it's only 250 million.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_12: So, yes, of course they're out there smiling because not only do the politicians don't believe it, their people don't believe it.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_35: Thank you so much uh for the blast again.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_35: Uh 651-964-0294.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_35: And as I mentioned, you can text the show as well.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_35: We had a text that just came in.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_35: Um, attendance records for the fair is one thing.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_35: I'd love to see the numbers of fights or police calls that occurred at the state uh fair.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_35: So, yeah, there were some protesters that showed up and blocked the main entrance on Snelling.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_35: I don't know what day that was.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_35: And I can tell you that it looked to me like that was universal frustration across the board from fairgoers, just sick and tired of individuals coming out and protesting, because it seems like one of those, one of those circumstances wherein you're gonna get bipartisan agreement between left and right for individuals who might be going and disrupting your ability to enjoy the Minnesota State Fair.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_35: I don't think either side of the political spectrum has any sort of patience on that uh what so whatsoever.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_35: I have another text that rolled in uh from Joe and Blaine.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_35: He says, So if they only claim fraudsters stole the small amount that they've been charged with, does that mean that D.B.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_35: Cooper stole only stole a couple of dollars when he disappeared off that plane?
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_35: That is a really, really good point.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_35: Thank you, Joe.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_35: Greatly appreciate it.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_35: Also demonstrating the power of the new blaster line.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_35: Which, by the way, if I don't mind saying uh saying so myself, I think that audio quality is vastly superior.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_35: Devin, would you uh would you agree with that so far?
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_35: I agree.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_55: It sounds pretty good.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_35: Yeah, so far, it sounds much better.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_35: Now, I know that I have a lot of friend-of-the-show continuity directors out there.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_35: So those individuals, if they are not impressed with the uh new blaster line uh audio quality, then there is uh not a whole lot that I can do for them.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_35: Uh with that, let's go back and uh hear from another friend of the show.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_15: Uh John, where you pretty much sound like that period or the UN.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_35: Of course, the moment I go and say that, and I get this one.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_35: Gee, I think you gotta roll the window.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_35: I'm gonna give you a chance here.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_35: I don't think it's the audio quality.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_35: I think it's on his end.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_35: Oh, I'm sorry, buddy.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_35: You're uh the uh the quality on your blast is uh is too poor.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_35: So I don't think you got the ri the uh the window uh rolled down.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_35: So 651 uh 964-0294.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_28: It was so great over the weekend that they had the attendance record as much as state fair, because that meant that everybody was there and not on the road.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_28: It was so easy to get around the Twin Cities over the weekend.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_28: It was great there weren't all these people clogging up the roadways.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_28: Haven't been to State Fair since the tour down the racetrack.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_28: No reason to go there anymore.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_28: No interest, not eating fat foods.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_28: Oh well, the tenants is getting dead because everybody's coming to the state and committing fraud and they got nothing to do on the weekends.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_35: Oh, come on.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_35: Don't be so incredibly cynical.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_35: No, I think listen, I I there was a previous comment that we had, and I think they kind of hit the nail on the head when they made the made the the joke of, you know, if the economy is so bad and things are so horrible, then why are we breaking attendance records at the at the fair?
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_35: No, I think that that actually is a really good example.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_35: I think people are ready for a bit of a bit of a break.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_35: I think it speaks to the fact that people are a little bit burned out.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_35: We've been through a lot as a nation, regardless of which party you belong to, and people are ready to go and have a good time.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_35: And the weather's been, you know, decent.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_35: It's been warm again.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_35: It's warming up a little bit this uh uh this week, but the weather's been the weather's been decent.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_35: So I'm not gonna be that cynical about it.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_35: This made me laugh a little bit.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_35: Have you ever wondered whether prices of the Minnesota State Fair are going up or down?
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_35: Does anybody keep track?
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_35: I know the media keeps track.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_35: But if you're a fairgoer, are you keeping track uh about this at all?
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_35: The question did inspire University of St.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_35: Thomas uh economics professor Tyler Shipper to create what he calls last year, doing that thing with my fingers, honest index.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_35: He made an on a stick index.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_35: So according to the 2026 honestyc index, inflation at the fair came in at 3.1%, which is on par with the 3.3 consumer price index uh released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics in July.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_35: The inaugural 2025 honesty index shows inflation that year was around 7.8%.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_35: I guess it's on a stick because most of the stuff that you buy at the fair is on a is on a stick.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_35: I'm assuming that's what the that's what the uh the play on the play on words there uh is.
• 19:31
  unknown: Okay.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_35: Shipper says the higher rate in 2025 can be attributed to the bump in ticket prices and parking rates, a larger increase in food prices.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_35: However, many other food items, such as Sweet Martha's cookies, and the all-you-can-drink milk, saw no price changes uh this year.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_35: Um the admission prices and parking rates are also affected by the sudden price increases of a dollar or more at a time, and those can end up increasing the numbers greatly.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_35: This year, the On a Stick Index uh project has expanded uh to other research projects led by some high school, uh excuse me, not high school, yeah.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_35: These no, these are college students.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_35: My bad.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_35: These are college students.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_35: Uh they're looking into what makes the vendor price of their product.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_35: They're also looking at Pronto Pups and how there are eight locations where you can purchase them at the fair, but we are seeing which stand truly was the most affordable when you consider how much time you have to wait in line for them.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_35: Okay, so the on a stick index.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_35: Listen, from a standpoint, you know, when you're looking at education in the economy, it's interesting.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_35: I don't think the average fairgoer really pays that close attention.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_35: I mean, you're kind of you're kind of stuck with the prices that you're that you're stuck with, regardless of what you end up buying on a stick.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_35: All right.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_35: Uh Rick in Virginia is going to try this again.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_15: Good morning, John.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_15: Rick in Virginia.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_15: Let's try it again.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_15: I was saying that I I think the guy that you probably were having that mini debate with might have been KG.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_15: He disagrees with you, me, but he's always respectful, and I always enjoy listening to him.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_15: One of the issues I have is they never tell you when he says that you have the biggest fraudster in the White House, but they never tell you what and why Trump is a fraud.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_15: They just don't like what he does, which is fair.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_15: I didn't like what Biden did, and Biden was a fraud, as was Hunter.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_15: But they never tell you what the fraudster Trump is doing, which is problematic for me.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_15: Have a great day, keep it up.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_35: No, and look in their minds he's just a fraud because they don't like him.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_35: And then they can go it's a catch-all term that they can go and basically apply whenever they want to go and describe President Donald Trump.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_20: John, it's uh Kevin from O'Namia.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_20: Uh another possibility for the record attendance thus far to her is that it with the Labor Day being late, everything is screwed.
• 22:00
  unknown: Up.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_20: Most of schools start today or tomorrow.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_20: And all the people were trying to get there early with their kids before school started.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_20: If attendance drops up, I'll be proven.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_35: Yeah, no, that's a really uh that's a really good uh point.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_35: And as a matter of fact, somebody I got a few texts that rolled into 651-964-0294.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_35: School starts for many districts this week.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_35: Attendance will slow down uh this week.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_35: While at the fair on opening day, I saw about eight or ten Democrats in front of the Republican booth wearing yellow shirts with anti-Republican statements, and they were uh talking to fairgoers as they passed by.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_35: This is a blatant violation of the spirit and rules of the state fair, which prohibit demonstrating and protesting with signs and by implication with derogatory statements on shirts.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_35: No, I completely agree.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_35: I saw these wack-a-doodles on Saturday.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_35: So I went over to our booth over by Damn Patch and went by and said hi to my friends over at K102.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_17: They're there every single day.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_35: I saw Chris, uh Sam, and Dubs over there.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_35: So they're doing their show.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_35: And then after their show, they're every day they're going down to the fair.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_35: It's like, oh man, do not envy that uh at all.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_35: But as I was walking out, I went and I swung by the um, I swung by the GOP booth and uh saw a couple of the uh Eric Pratt uh campaign there.
• 23:24
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• 23:25
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• 23:33
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• 23:34
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• 23:36
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• 23:37
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• 23:38
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• 23:43
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• 23:45
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• 23:46
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• 24:32
  SPEAKER_35: All right, we're gonna get back to more of your thoughts in uh just a moment.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_35: I want to give you an update on what's going on with Iran.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_35: Uh, U.S.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_35: forces, uh, this is for the first time since going back to July 29th that we've had any sort of military exchanges with um the tyrannical regime in Iran, but U.S.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_35: forces did strike Iranian rocket launchers in the Strait of Ormuz, breaking the month-long lull in the fighting.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_35: Now, Iran vowed to retaliate.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_35: They lobbed some ballistic missiles our way, which were all struck down.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_35: Um, they were heading towards our bases in Jordan.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_35: The attack comes amid a shift in U.S.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_35: strategy toward economic pressure on Iran following the concerns about the depleted munitions stockpiles and a prolonged conflict.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_35: Uh, Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of War, um, you know, or the Secretary of War, Pete Heggseth, uh, wasn't having it when it came to local media.
• 25:28
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• 25:30
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• 25:32
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• 25:40
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• 27:43
  SPEAKER_40: I don't think any other state has this besides Minnesota.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_40: Okay, number one, you can vouch for up to eight people.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_40: Yeah.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_40: But then we also have same-day election uh registration, and we don't have provisional ballots.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_40: So those those elements all combine together.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_40: You don't other states that have same-day voter registration have a provisional ballot, and so when you register to vote, typically if you're doing it in advance, you know, your your registration is checked so that when you actually go to you know vote on election day, you've been vetted by the state in some way.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_40: Um but when you have same-day registration, obviously there's not time for that to happen.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_40: And so your vote gets counted immediately.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_40: It gets put into the pool and it's never coming back out.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_40: Other states, they will have same-day registrants use a what's called a provisional ballot.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_40: And so, you know, they they cast their vote, but it's set off aside, and it's not actually added into the mix until their registration has been verified, which makes sense.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_40: You know, Minnesota doesn't have that.
• 28:33
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• 28:41
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• 28:45
  SPEAKER_37: Think about it.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_37: Black and Hispanic students in Mississippi perform better in reading and math than black and Hispanic students in Minnesota.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_37: And Mississippi spends thousands of dollars less per student than Minnesota.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_37: Mississippi spends less money, gets better results, and their achievement gaps are closing, while ours are getting worse.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_37: Think about it.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_37: It's time for real education reform so Minnesota can catch up to Mississippi.
• 29:10
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• 29:15
  SPEAKER_39: So Scott Pressler, he's a conservative activist, he posted on X that he also did some of these data requests.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_39: And he was told that in St.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_39: Louis County, which is the home of Duluth, 737 people registered to vote through vouching.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_39: 737.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_39: So let's go back to the 2022 election really quick just to see if we can get a clear example of okay, well, that number of people vouching ever really matter.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_39: It seems like a small number.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_39: Well, in 2022, in the Cottage Grove Hastings area, Democrat Judy Seeburger won her state Senate election by 321 votes.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_39: As our listeners may remember, the Democrats held the Senate that year by one seat.
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• 30:08
  SPEAKER_35: It's the John Justice show presented by American uh X uh Experiment this morning.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_35: I was working through some of the blasts and the text that were rolling in, so it caught me a little bit off guard.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_35: We'll get back to more of uh your comments here in just a moment.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_35: As a matter of fact, let me go ahead and play this one first as we get ready to talk with uh Andrew Langer, the president of the Institute for the Yeah.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_24: The guy that you ran into at the fair that's asking you about the GOP and the campaign coming up.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_24: He brought up the same talking points about the 1% tax cuts and Medicare, but he says that he's listening to the show every day.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_24: How do you listen to the show every day and still have the basic talking points of the DFL and you can't move past those points?
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_24: How is he listening?
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_24: What is his experience like the whole time he's listened to the show for three hours and he can't move past those talking points?
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_24: It just seems bizarre.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_35: It is bizarre.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_35: It is bizarre.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_35: And I think it it comes from and it stems from this lack of curiosity that too many individuals uh have on the left.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_35: They will not deviate from that which they believe in, from their ideologies, uh from the from the issues.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_35: I think it tends to speak to how entertaining this show is, if I'm gonna be a little bit uh a little bit arrogant, but you're right.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_35: The individuals who say they listen every single day and then come approach me at the fair, touting all the talking points that they hear from everybody else, it makes you wonder okay, you're listening, but you're clearly not paying uh paying attention, or you're just so stuck in your narratives that you refuse to see any other uh any other viewpoint.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_35: So with that being said, I'm looking at uh Andrew Langer, the president of the uh Institute for Liberty.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_35: Good morning, Andrew Langer.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_35: Good to see you this morning, my friend.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_51: Good morning, John.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_51: Yes, I I have I too have felt the uh the touch of people who claim to listen.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_51: They may hear, but they're they they're certainly not listening.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_35: Yeah, it was uh we were talking about uh going out to the Minnesota uh State Fair on uh on Saturday.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_35: I was there for a couple hours, met a lot of fantastic listeners, but there was one individual who came by who I've seen before there who it's so funny too, because they have questions, but it is clear, and this is probably the point that I should have made earlier.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_35: It's clear, though, that they don't really have questions.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_35: They just want to be able to have their own voice heard to me as if their opinion is going to go and change mine.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_35: They have no interest in hearing um, you know, any answer that I that I gave to them regarding the questions that they were that they were asking.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_51: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_51: Don Geronimo used to call them agenda callers when they would when they would call in.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_51: Uh, here's here's my my question to you, man.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_51: So I had a conversation.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_51: I, you know, we did Tony's show a couple of weeks ago, and the uh Indiana State Fair was going on, and their big thing is they have a dairy farm on site and they take the milk from the dairy farm and the cream from the dairy farm and they make milkshakes.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_51: What's the go-to thing at the Minnesota State Fair?
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_51: What's the big what was the big gimmick uh uh food on a stick this year?
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_35: Yeah, so I mean you always have the Pronto pups.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_35: I'm always a partial to the uh to the to the funnel cakes.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_35: This year, though, the longest line that I saw Andrew Langer was for something called apple fries.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_35: I'm unfamiliar with sure.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_51: Yeah, no, no, no.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_51: They're like they're like French fries, but they're pieces of apple that are dipped in funnel cake uh batter and then fried.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_35: Okay.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_35: See, you already know you already know more than more than I did regarding that.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_35: I had no idea.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_35: I just thought that's the movie.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_51: Uh have you ever seen the movie called Fatso?
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_51: Uh late 70s, early 80s.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_51: Uh Ann Bancroft and Dom Deloise.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_51: So Ann Bancroft, who was Mel Brooks's wife, famous actress in her own right, and and it's about a fat guy trying to find love.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_51: And there's a there's a there's a scene in which like uh a couple of different fat guys are sitting around discussing fat guy food, and and the the famous line is Have you have you ever sucked the jelly out of a jelly donut and filled it with chocolate swirl ice cream?
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_51: See, this is the you know, as a you can see it on my face because it's a Monday morning and I'm puffy, you know, recovering fat guy.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_51: Look, I do like my fair food.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_51: I'm I'm I'm so I'm always interested in the fair food.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_51: So yes, you know, I somebody I I guess the big thing at uh the Texas State Fair this year is fried collard greens.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_51: Okay, you know, um you gotta take uh, you know, anytime you do this, you gotta somehow find a way to chill it before you batter it, and then and then like you freeze it, then you batter it, then you fry it.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_51: You know, the fried butter, fried beer, blah, blah, blah.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_35: There was a um there was a kid that came by the booth and they were sampling all kinds of food, and I asked them which was their favorite, and uh they immediately went to the fried pickles, I believe it was.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_35: But we've fried all kinds of Oreos, bananas.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_35: I think if it's if you can fry it, they've fried it at the Minnesota.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_35: They've fried everything.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_51: There is a restaurant in New York, it's a fish and chips place that if you bring something in that to to they will batter it and fry it for you.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_35: Are you big on are you are you big on fairs in general?
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_35: I mean, do you enjoy going to the to the is there a fair up in your neck of the woods that you go to?
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_51: I I don't think the Virginia State Fair is up there with the Minnesota State Fair, the Indiana State Fair, or the um I like the concept of the state fair.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_51: I like I I will tell you here's the thing, for nostalgia's sake, um, when we lived on the eastern shore of Maryland, uh the the Queen Anne's County Fair was great, and it was your quintessential local, uh rural community county fair, you know, small rides, but it was all about the exhibitions.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_51: Uh every night was a different sort of theme food night.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_51: And because uh uh the Eastern Shore of Maryland is a huge uh chicken producing area, um, all of the counties on the eastern shore sort of rotate for the world's largest uh fried chicken um uh fried chicken pan.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_51: So some night it might be chicken barbecue, which is a big thing on the Eastern Shore of Maryland.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_51: Um uh so if they had the big pan, it would be the fried chicken night, or it would be pit beef night.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_51: So anyway, yeah, I I love uh I love a good fair, but I I love the atmosphere, and yeah, I I like the innovative fair food.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_35: Let's um let's start here.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_35: Um first off, I know we're gonna get into a little bit uh of uh of uh Lake America versus uh Lake uh Lake Ontario, which uh which and as I mentioned, well, I'll I'll share my view on this coming up here in just a moment.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_35: I know you have your own thoughts as well.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_35: Um, but let's go here first.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_35: Uh a prosecutor in the New York Attorney General's office sent an agency-wide email to hundreds of colleagues Friday claiming that he had been instructed by his supervisor to doing that thing with my fingers, find and pursue crimes committed by specific individuals and organizations affiliated with Donald Trump, according to a copy of the email obtained by the Times uh Union.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_35: And I know there's of course Letitia James um uh angles to this as well, but um, what are your thoughts on this on this story that uh the New York prosecutor claims Letitia James' office directed him to target Trump specifically?
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_51: It's not even so it's a very poorly written story, no offense to the folks, the good folks of the Times Union, because they really buried the lead.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_51: The lead is not that he sent this email out, because it it the headline and and the lead sort of make it sound like he's asking other folks or he's telling other folks that he'd done this.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_51: The real issue is that the email was almost immediately deleted off of the New York State Attorney General's servers, and the staffer was placed on administrative leave.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_51: So basically, he was he also laid out just he was admonishing his uh his colleagues in the New York State Attorney General's office, focus on prosecuting crimes.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_51: Uh this is not what we are here for.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_51: We I am I am tired, as I'm sure you are tired, of having this office being used for somebody's you know political battles.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_51: Uh that's not the the nature of the beast.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_51: Seven or eight-year veteran, this guy, uh veteran of the the New York State Attorney General's office, uh placed on administrative leave for standing up there and saying something about this.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_51: And by the way, I actually I shouldn't say I don't know who leaked the the email to the press.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_51: You know, he sent it internally to his colleagues.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_51: He didn't go and blow the whistle to the press.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_51: Um and and you know, for his uh for his pains, the email was deleted off the servers and uh uh and uh uh he was he was put on administrative leave.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_35: Well, I I I suppose it's a good thing that it was immediately identified and he was handled.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_35: But I again when I read the story, like this didn't come as a as a shock to me.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_35: I don't think it comes as a surprise to to anybody.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_51: I think it's but I think it's it's someone getting frustrated on the inside, you know, with all of this.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_51: It's like I I've known folks who have been who were employees at various federal agencies.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_51: And by the way, Democrat employees of these federal agencies who during the Biden administration I would meet up with, folks I've I'd known for a while, and they'd say, Yeah, I just I they've gone completely off the rails here.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_51: Um to have someone show the courage internally to do that, I think is uh is that's what's remarkable uh about the situation.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_51: Yes, we all know about Letitia James, but to have a career attorney um uh sort of say something internally, I think is uh is a is a pretty big deal.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_35: You know what?
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_35: Let me play this clip.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_35: I didn't have a good place for it, um, but it kind of it kind of fits here, I think.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_35: Um so this was Rama Manuel, of course, former O'Biden, uh former Obama.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_35: I said O'Biden.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_35: O'Biden.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_35: Former, former yeah, you know, look at former O'Biden official.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_51: They're after me, lucky charms.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_35: Yeah, they're both Obama and Biden.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_35: It's O'Biden, so former O'Biden uh official.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_35: Yeah, I think he was talking with uh MS Now, and um I thought his comments were rather revealing.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_35: Here's Rum Emanuel over the weekend.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_42: You know, Bernie Sanders is part of this group too, and he says, quote, people are sick Talking about the Democrat socialist, by the way.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_42: Tired of the Rahm Emanuels.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_42: They say the energy is not with the people of the past.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_42: Uh it's moving forward with socialism.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_42: Your response.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_23: Well, uh, here's the thing.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_23: On the I don't consider Democratic Socialists part of the Democratic Party.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_23: About four weeks ago, they had a convention in Chicago, separate party.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_23: They believe in defunding the police, letting prisoners out of uh out of prisons, opening the borders, eliminating the Pentagon.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_23: If you're so confident people want that, I'll see you in November.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_23: Put it on the ballot.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_23: Let's go.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_23: Run as a separate party.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_35: So it's interesting.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_35: You've got, you know, the majority of the of the party's mouthpieces talking about we're a big tent, even though you've had individuals like Hakeem Jeffries push back a little bit like Rahmanuel has on the specific issues regarding the DSA, but everybody else seems to be very welcoming of them into the Democrat Party.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_35: And yet here you have Rahmanuel um, you know, saying that he doesn't consider the DSA to be part of the Democrat uh party.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_35: What are your what are your thoughts on what Ram had to say there?
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_51: No, listen, I think both parties, nine weeks from now, are going to have some very serious conversations about where their parties are going and what what that means.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_51: And, you know, I think some of this on the Democratic side is gonna be blunted by how well they do in the midterms.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_51: Um and you know, let's assume for a moment that the Democrats take both houses of Congress.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_51: I'm not sure that's gonna happen.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_51: Um, they will probably take the House.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_51: It's not gonna be a blue wave um in the same way that there wasn't a red wave in 2022.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_51: Um but you know, victory is uh either either way is gonna blunt them a little bit.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_51: That being said, both parties are gonna have to have this kind of a conversation.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_51: And so with the Democrats, it's going to be about do we we we want power, we want to accrue power.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_51: Uh the Democratic Socialists can get us power.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_51: Um, but on the other hand, there are some very crazy and troubling things uh within their within their ranks.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_51: On the Republican side, it's going to be, and and you know, I my my post my piece in the Wall Street Journal did get posted on Thursday afternoon.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_51: It's gonna be about whether or not we are true to our laissez faire free market limited government principles, or if we are, as JD Vance says, now all Hamiltonians in this post laissez faire, post-Milton Friedman world.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_51: Um and I and and listen, I think that conversation is starting to happen on the Republican side.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_51: I got some very nice, you know, feedback from folks.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_51: I got some very negative feedback from folks in Vance Land.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_51: Um very unhappy with the piece.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_51: Um, but you know, nevertheless, uh I this is what's gonna happen, is there's gonna be this conversation.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_51: I I listen, I genuinely feel for Rahm Emanuel, you know, this is uh the the the the the newsoms, buddha jigs, and emmanuels of the world are really going to have to uh uh address the Mamdaniism uh and the Mamdaniization of their party.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_35: Well, I is it a um, and I want to uh let me make sure I phrase this appropriately, because I think first off, congrats on getting the the article in the in the in the Wall Street Journal.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_35: That's awesome.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_35: Um and I agree these are conversations the GOP needs to have.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_35: The question I have though is is it productive for the GOP to engage extensively in any way, shape, or form in this conversation now prior to the to the midterms, or could that be detrimental to our Republicans' chances within, you know, bringing up potential divisions, like you, like you, like you mentioned.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_35: How much of this should we discuss beforehand, you know, heading into the midterms?
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_51: I think the the here's the thing.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_51: And this is a this it's funny you bring that up because that's that's sort of been the the response from Vance Land on, you know, my not just my op-ed, but but but others have sort of talked about this.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_51: You know, there's a meme out there.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_51: Uh zero, it's Lenny from The Simpsons, uh zero days since the last anti-Vance piece in the Wall Street Journal.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_51: Um that's it.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_51: But but as I also point out, you know, there is no grand conspiracy if if JD Vance is gonna go out there and and and do an interview in which he you know talks about these things, or if he's going to be advancing policies that don't make a lot of sense in terms of the context of of where we've been and those policies are are are actively being discussed and adopted, then yeah, this is the time for having that that conversation.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_51: You know, it's it's it's it's it's now um because this the the the the gas pedal's gonna be mashed down by everybody who's running for president on both sides of the aisle is gonna get mashed down uh the day after uh the uh 2028, 2026 elections.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_35: So I assume that uh for those that would uh are interested in reading it, I assume it's at the Wall Street Journal.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_35: Are there other locations where it's uh at?
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_35: If somebody wants to check it out, Andrew?
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_51: Well, it's on my Facebook page.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_51: You know something?
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_51: I should put it up out there.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_51: If you don't have a subscription to uh to it, let me know.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_51: Um yeah, it's up at the Wall Street Journal.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_51: It's it's uh what Vance Gets Wrong About Hamilton.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_51: It's really about what Vance gets wrong about about Milton Friedman.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_51: Um, you know, at the end of the day, it comes down to to this, you know, which is what kind of involvement.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_51: See, this is fundamental, John.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_51: It's the same kinds of stuff.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_51: You know, you and I did that event with Tony Katz a couple of years ago.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_51: It's the same kind of stuff we were talking about there.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_51: Um you know, this idea of of the principles uh on which we impl implement policy, right?
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_51: We can talk about politics and sort of political gamesmanship, but at the end of the day, if if we are not fundamentally changing policy or addressing policy or dealing with the societal issues through some philosophical approach to policy, then what what good are are the elections themselves?
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_51: Right?
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_51: What good is it to get a Republican elected if you know we're gonna go off the rails on on some fundamental policy issues?
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_51: Um and so we have to we have to have the the discussion.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_51: I and I get what you're saying.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_51: Do we have to have it now before the election?
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_51: I think that's only given by the fact that the policy process is an ongoing thing.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_35: Yeah.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_35: Well, and and you know, the sort of my own my own personal thoughts on that.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_35: Uh I have no problem with having the conversation.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_35: I don't think it's gonna be large enough.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_35: Um, for as powerful as the voice of Andrew Langer is, I don't think it's gonna be large enough to have a major impact or sway any of the any of the elections.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_35: I was just curious, you know, get curious your thoughts on that.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_51: And I also don't want to overstate my own importance.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_51: I I will say this much because it gets back to to the the the clip that was circulating a couple of weeks ago, right?
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_51: With um with uh uh Marco Rubio talking about Maha and whether he's Maha and how he doesn't bring coolers of sauerkraut with him everywhere he goes.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_51: And and his wife talked about his love of Pop Tarts.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_51: And I'm not saying I'm a Rubio guy because I don't know where I am in all of this right now.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_51: But my my point is as a Republican candidate, you should be able to articulate why people should be free to choose a Pop-Tart and the innovative things uh of a Pop Tart.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_51: Again, coming back to fair food and and and food that is that is bad for us, right?
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_51: 17-year-old me loved a good Pop-Tart.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_51: Um 55-year-old me uh doesn't have them anywhere near my near my my larder.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_51: Uh and I use larder uh, you know, affirmatively.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_51: Um but that's the way it is.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_35: I always ate my uh I always chose my Pop Tarts based on mood.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_35: I was people will ask, you know, strawberry, the the strawberry pop tart was sort of always the default.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_35: I think second on that was the cinnamon pop tart, but I gotta be in the mood for the for the cinnamon, you know.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_51: Blueberry wasn't bad either, but but all right, but but was it also a toaster accessibility determinant, right?
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_51: Oh yes, Pop Tart is better in the toaster, um, but whereas a strawberry pop-tart can be held on its own.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_35: Uh huh, I I a hundred a hundred percent.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_35: And usually the determination on whether or not the Pop-Tart would be toasted was all based on time.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_35: Did I have enough time?
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_35: Do I have enough time right now to toast this and wait for it to properly cool before I can uh enjoy its deliciousness?
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_35: Right.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_51: That's now I'm just hungry.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_51: Yeah, and so so it's you know, it's and I and I say this also, John, because right now um the FDA's ultra-processed foods guidance is is sitting at OMB.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_51: There's lots of folks sending in letters to OMB about this.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_51: There are questions.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_51: By the way, this may be one of the issues I'm talking about when I get down to Dallas uh next week, because I am now actually going to Dallas.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_51: I hadn't planned on going to Dallas for the midterm convention, but yes.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_51: So all right.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_35: Let's uh let's go here in the time that we have.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_35: Google Maps has officially changed uh the name of uh Lake Ontario to Lake America for the U.S.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_35: uh users to reflect President Donald Trump's executive order, renaming the lake according to a Google statement.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_35: I want to play for you a quick uh clip.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_35: Um, Bill Maher, I mean, now favorite darling on the right.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_35: Maybe I shouldn't go so far as to say that, but he certainly has had some interesting commentary as of late, and I've always appreciated the fact that he's willing to call, you know, his balls and strikes.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_35: And but here's what he had to say on the issue of uh those on the left getting upset at uh Trump renaming Lake Ontario.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_48: Trump is so mad at Canada, he renamed uh Lake Ontario Lake America.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_48: Now I gotta buy a new globe again.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_48: And uh liberals are very pissed at this.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_48: They say you can't just go around renaming things to suit your political agenda.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_48: Just ask any Latinx birthing person.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_35: Now, listen, Andrew, my take on this was um I I don't care.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_35: You know, if Trump has the ability as the president of the United States to go and rename geographical locations, then you know, whatever.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_35: Go and name your geographical locations.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_35: It's neither it's neither here nor there for me, but it does not bother me.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_35: And what are your what are your thoughts on it?
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_51: Right.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_51: You know, it it's it's interesting.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_51: I and I appreciate what Bill Barr said.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_51: I'm I'm sure there's a Democrat out there, I'm sure ProPublica is out there investigating right now to see the relationship between the Trump family and map and globe makers around the world uh for for that very reason.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_51: That'll be that'll be like Article I of the impeachment proceedings.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_51: I just, you know, I I I I don't particularly find this to be moving policy.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_51: I I I don't think it's particularly clever.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_51: I wish there would just be more clever about it.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_51: Like right, I'm a traditionalist, so you know, sending Fort Liberty back to being Fort Bragg, all in favor of AP Hill in Virginia, a couple of other uh forts in Virginia, that would be that would be great.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_51: I'm I have no problem with that.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_51: And I had no problem with changing the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_51: Um I I wish we could have been a little bit funnier, funner and funnier about renaming Lake Ontario, especially by the way, because as I said to you in the email this morning, I'm a big fan of Gordon Lightfoot's The Wreck of the Emma Fitzgerald, and sort of going down that road of the the lyrics that reference Lake Ontario there, even though that's Lake Superior that the wreck happened on.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_51: Like Lake Rochester, Lake Oswego would have been good, Lake New York, or you know, and I didn't send this to you, we should have had a contest.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_51: Like the Trump administration should have had a contest, make it a revenue raiser, uh winner gets uh winner gets some kind of you know gas rebate card, and it would have been Lakey McLake face, you know.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_51: Exactly.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_51: That's exactly what it would have been.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_51: Just poke at them because Lord knows I this is not gonna make Canada uh change its trade policy.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_51: That's just you know, you you deal with the focus on the policy side of it to get them to do it.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_51: Um, you know, that's that's the that's the thing.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_35: I feel you know, like Trump's trolling, he's using his presidential powers to troll.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_35: That's what it is, you know.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_35: Is it petty?
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_35: Sure.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_35: Yes, do I personally care?
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_35: No, not really.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_35: Not really, you know, from an entertainment standpoint, being able to talk about it, it's fine.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_51: Because you're not a Gordon Lightfoot fan.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_35: That's right.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_35: Absolutely not a Gordon Lightfoot fan.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_51: Oh, for shame, for shame.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_51: Sundown, great song there, John.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_35: You know, and listen, if it pops on the Yacht Rock channel, you know, I'll I'll I'll let it I'll let it roll.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_35: I'll let it roll.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_51: That's what they do, is they they if it has a boat in it, it's part of the the Yacht Rock channel.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_35: So check out Andrew Langer's Wall Street uh journal article if you haven't done so um thus so far, whether or not you're a JD fan or or not.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_35: I would encourage everybody to go and uh check that out.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_35: What else would you like the uh the audience to uh to go and pay attention to, Andrew Langer, before I bid you adieu this morning?
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_51: Listen, new episode uh uh the Washington Signal Lunch Hour podcast up this week.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_51: I sit down with Cole Kelly from Mountain State's Legal Foundation.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_51: It's a great conversation about uh the nonprofit legal foundation world, public interest law on the conservative side.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_51: Uh we also talk about state fairs, by the way, because he's on the board of the Colorado State Fair.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_51: So that's uh, you know, it's it's all there's a there's a theme here.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_51: If you're not following me at Andrew underscore langer, uh please do so.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_35: Well, and thank you for the tee up on the Minnesota State Fair because I'm gonna get to some uh blasts here in just a moment that people have left regarding the fair.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_35: But Andrew Langer, as uh always, uh my friend, it was fantastic to uh speak with you and I look forward to the next time we get the chat.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_35: Hope uh chat, hopefully next week.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_51: Hopefully next week, man.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_51: Talk to you later.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_35: All right, thanks, buddy.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_35: And again, the brand new um blaster line is uh 651-964-0294.
• 54:15
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• 54:20
  SPEAKER_35: Somebody had asked how uh what I ended up doing for parking.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_35: Uh, we ended up having Melinda drop me off.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_35: So we couldn't time it out with the uh with the dog.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_35: So she ended up uh dropping me off at the fair.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_35: And with that, had several comments that uh rolled in in the first hour of the show.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_35: We'll get to those in uh just a moment here on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
• 54:40
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• 55:09
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• 56:03
  SPEAKER_26: Love the fair.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_26: We'll be going this Thursday.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_26: I think a lot of our uh listeners on the show, good lot of them, anyways, are pretty uh pessimistic about the fair, and I don't get it.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_26: I've lived here all my love life and enjoy it, but I only usually go once.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_24: The guy that you ran into at the fair of the traffic.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_35: Oh, we um I played that one uh earlier, so let's go uh to this for the morning.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_14: I don't know why people have to be so graphic.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_14: Um everything has to be fair is whatever on a stick, like corn top on a stick, um corn on a stick.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_14: Why there's to be a stick on an index?
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_14: So what is that?
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_14: It is an index on a stick, like everything else is fair.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_14: Have a good morning.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_35: You know what?
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_35: You know, I let me let me back up here because you make a good point.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_35: Not about I don't mind that they're doing so.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_35: We were talking about this earlier in the in the show.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_35: Students and professors at the University of St.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_35: Thomas were back at the fair this year conducting inflation research for their on a stick uh index.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_35: They should have called it the index on a stick.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_35: That's what it should have been.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_35: It's not the on a that's just wonky on a stick index.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_35: I know that it is more accurate based off of what they're going for, but the reality is no, it shouldn't be index on a stick.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_35: That makes a lot.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_35: Yeah, see, Devin's agreeing with me.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_35: See, he's right, he's right on it.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_35: He's right there, he's right there with me.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_35: Index on a change it, guys.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_35: Make it the index on a stick where you're going and you're calculating the price of inflation, you know.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_35: And from uh again, from a teachable standpoint, an instructional standpoint about the economy, I think that that is a that's a pretty wise, uh, that's a pretty wise idea.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_35: All right, uh, let's go back to the blaster line this morning.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_34: Good morning, John.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_34: I'm the whole Gulf of America thing.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_34: Like you say, I mean, this is obviously just trolling, and obviously they're just gonna fall for a quick line and sinker.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_34: What they've gotta be looking at is eventually they'll probably end up back in power and it will just be an orgy day of them going around and resetting these back to where they are before Trump.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_34: So just relax, yeah.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_35: Yeah, listen, if that happens, by the way, if we end up in a circumstance where, heaven forbid, Democrats get uh gain, you know, re retake control, uh, he's absolutely right.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_35: Whoever takes over as the president is going to go and move to start renaming things back to what they were.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_35: My prediction on that, by the way, is that if that happens, somebody will propose some sort of legislation speaking to how you can only go and change the name of a geographical uh location once every X number of years.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_35: It's kind of like you have the same stipulations on social media.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_35: Like we have brand new social media accounts for the show.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_35: Uh John Justice Show on uh Instagram, John Justice Show on uh TikTok.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_35: But you know that if you're on X, if you're on Instagram or any of those social media platforms, you are only allowed so many times where you can go and change your handle or your name.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_35: So you watch.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_35: If Democrats move to do that, they will make all the changes.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_35: And then you'll probably have a Democrat go and put forward a law that'll need to be passed via Congress that says, now that we've changed that, that's what'll happen.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_35: Now that they go and change, now that I workshopped this on the air as we kick off the second hour of the show.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_35: So they'll do all the changes and then they'll try to pass legislation that says, now you can't change them anymore.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_35: That'll be what that'll be what happens.
• 1:00:09
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  SPEAKER_35: I want to get you up to speed just briefly on what's going on with Iran, military activity uh on our side against Iranian forces.
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  SPEAKER_35: The first time since July 29th, also President Donald Trump uh announces the biggest oil deal in uh history as he attempts to go and reshape the United States and our energy uh freedom and the energy needs and distribution globally as well.
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  SPEAKER_35: So we'll get into this in just a moment.
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  SPEAKER_35: I have some audio from Pete Heggseth that I want to share before we dive into some local news, including um how the Minnesota Supreme Court has rejected Mike Lindell's recount uh petition.
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  SPEAKER_35: My 17-year-old uh self wants to ask a 17-year-old John which is better, Pop Tarts or Toaster Strudels.
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  SPEAKER_35: Oh, Pop Tarts.
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  SPEAKER_35: Is there even a question about that?
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  SPEAKER_35: I'm sure I've had a toaster strudel.
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  SPEAKER_35: I used to love the uh the blueberry tarts, uh, but now you can't find any unfrosted ones.
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  SPEAKER_35: I wonder if they discontinued the unfrosted blueberry Pop Tarts.
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  SPEAKER_33: And that's a big bummer.
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  SPEAKER_35: All right, let's go here.
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  SPEAKER_35: U.S.
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  SPEAKER_35: forces struck Iranian rocket launchers, straight a hormuz, breaking the month-long lull and fighting.
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  SPEAKER_35: Iran vowed to retaliate and did, launching ballistic missiles at U.S.
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  SPEAKER_35: bases in Jordan.
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  SPEAKER_35: The attack comes amid a shift in U.S.
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  SPEAKER_35: strategy towards economic pressure on Iran, following concerns about the depleted munitions the stockpiles and a prolonged conflict.
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  SPEAKER_35: Those um that commentary around potential depleted uh munitions has kind of died off.
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  SPEAKER_35: I'm not surprised by that.
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  SPEAKER_35: I felt like this was sourced by too many anonymous individuals without anything concrete beyond back of the napkin math.
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  SPEAKER_35: Secretary of War Pete Heggseth was asked about this.
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  SPEAKER_35: I'll get to it in just a moment.
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  SPEAKER_35: The last time the U.S.
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  SPEAKER_35: military confirmed targeting Iran was back on July 29th when it announced uh announced a heavy wave of strikes on dozens of Revolutionary Guard targets, including the coastal surveillance and defense sites.
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  SPEAKER_35: On August 1st, Trump said that he would order the military to hold off on any new strikes.
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  SPEAKER_35: At the urging of the Gulf allies in uh Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates.
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  SPEAKER_35: This attack comes days after the Trump administration said it would turn its focus to increasing economic pressure and economic D-Day, as announced by the Treasury Secretary Basent, rather than military action.
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  SPEAKER_35: The shifting strategy centers on threats to punish any country or entity that continues to conduct a business with Iran.
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  SPEAKER_35: But of course, Iran still has a smattering of their military power enough to uh to go and be a thorn in our efforts to provide the people of Iran the opportunity to take back their country from this murderous tyrannical regime.
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  SPEAKER_35: The U.S.'s turn to using sanctions came as the administration was weighing what I mentioned in terms of the commentary around the stockpiles of ammunition.
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  SPEAKER_35: Trump's talk of finding a quick uh end to the war appears to be fading, which is why I believe he's turned his attention over.
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  SPEAKER_35: And I think this was all part of the plan, but the timing, right, is is noteworthy considering how things have protracted in Iran.
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  SPEAKER_35: But this is why he's turning his attention over to the stockpiles of oil and making deals with Venezuela that we'll get to in uh just uh in just a moment.
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  SPEAKER_35: So with that, Pete Heggseth was um talking with media over the weekend.
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  SPEAKER_35: They questioned him regarding the uh ammunition.
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  SPEAKER_35: This is what uh Pete uh had to say in uh that exchange with uh media over the weekend.
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  SPEAKER_04: The press reported that nearly all of the attack-up weapons were used.
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  SPEAKER_04: Did the United States use both millet, use both unitary and why would I answer?
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  SPEAKER_55: I mean, this is kind of stupid question I would never answer.
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  SPEAKER_35: So the reporter was asking him specifically if they were using very specific types of ammunition.
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  SPEAKER_35: I know that um it was a little difficult to hear him.
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  SPEAKER_35: To which the Secretary of War Pete is saying, Why would I go and answer that that question?
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  SPEAKER_35: Here's more of his comments.
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  SPEAKER_55: Like, why would I answer a question about whether we do or do not have certain types I would tell you we have 110%.
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  SPEAKER_55: I would tell you we have one.
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  SPEAKER_55: I would never answer that question.
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  SPEAKER_55: An American press is foolish to want to press an American War Department about where we may or may not be on classified exclusive systems.
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  SPEAKER_55: We had plenty when we needed it, and we have plenty now, and we have plenty when we need them in the future.
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  SPEAKER_50: Yeah, reporters think it's uh unusual.
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  SPEAKER_50: Secretary Hegseth doesn't give details that could compromise our military's ability to respond to threats.
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  SPEAKER_50: That's that's uh one way to look at it.
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  SPEAKER_35: And that was commentary coming from um from Fox News.
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  SPEAKER_35: So not a huge surprise there, one that they would ask, and also not a huge surprise if that's the response that they would get from the Secretary of War, uh Pete uh Hegsteth.
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  SPEAKER_35: Let's turn our attention over, though, to what I mentioned a moment ago.
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  SPEAKER_35: Trump did announce on Friday what he called the biggest oil deal in the world.
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  SPEAKER_35: Said the agreement will more than double Americans oil reserves.
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  SPEAKER_35: So the agreement with Venezuela securing the majority of U.S.
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  SPEAKER_35: control of more than 65 million barrels of oil reserves, touting the deal as a major boost to U.S.
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  SPEAKER_35: energy security and a potential long-term answer to the rising gas prices.
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  SPEAKER_35: Like I said, in light of the continued conflict with Iran, Trump is doing everything that he can to lower prices at the pump, certainly ahead of the midterm uh elections.
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  SPEAKER_35: So when the news broke over the weekend, here's the reporting from uh Fox News.
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  SPEAKER_41: So this was on Friday when President Trump made this news, announcing this deal with Venezuela, and Venezuela's acting president Delcey Rodriguez says the 25-year agreement will allow for the development of seventeen strategic oil fields to produce 1.5 million barrels per day.
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  SPEAKER_41: President Trump today and truth social said that the oil will fill up these strategic national reserves.
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  SPEAKER_41: It is unclear how quickly that could happen.
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  SPEAKER_41: Reserves have dropped to a more than 40-year low.
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  SPEAKER_41: Secretary of State Marco Rubio writing in part for the Venezuelan people this deal will bring in nearly$100 billion in private investment, support thousands of high-paying jobs, and drive the reconstruction of Venezuela's economy.
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  SPEAKER_35: The reserve held about 290 million barrels of oil as of August 21st.
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  SPEAKER_35: This was a 44-year low after the United States drew down its stockpile under both the Biden uh administrations in response to the global supply disruptions, including Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the conflict with Iran.
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  SPEAKER_35: Now, the Venezuelan interim president, uh Delcy Rodriguez, said on Saturday that an energy agreement with the U.S.
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  SPEAKER_35: would remain in force for 25 years, uh, targeting an increase in crude output output to 1.5 million of barrels a day BPD and preserve the country's sovereignty over its national resources.
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  SPEAKER_35: Venezuela has the world's largest proven oil reserves, but it produces only about 1.2 million BPD, far below its potential after years of underinvestment mismanagement and sanctions.
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  SPEAKER_35: So that's what Trump is hoping to improve.
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  SPEAKER_35: Rodriguez said the agreement could generate about$209 billion in revenue for the Venezuelan state based on the benchmark oil price of$65 per barrel, though acknowledging that crude prices could fluctuate.
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  SPEAKER_35: She said roughly$19 for each barrel produced sold under the agreement would flow directly to Venezuela, providing a significant boost to the government revenue.
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  SPEAKER_35: Now, you had supporters and detractors on both left and right regarding this deal.
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  SPEAKER_35: So supporters say the agreement could accomplish something.
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  SPEAKER_35: Washington has sought for years, prying Venezuelan's enormous energy resources away from China and Russia, which I think is part of the plan here.
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  SPEAKER_35: Right?
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  SPEAKER_35: Attracting Western investment and reviving an industry devastated by years of social mismanagement.
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  SPEAKER_35: Critics, however, argue the administration is striking a potentially century-long bargain with essentially the same political apparatus that built Hugo Chavez and Nicolas Maduro.
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  SPEAKER_35: Now, this has alarmed Republicans representing large Venezuelan and Cuban communities.
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  SPEAKER_35: And that's the takeaway on this story for me is that the criticism coming from those Republicans are coming from Representative Maria Elvira Salazar, Republican out of Florida.
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  SPEAKER_35: Also Representative Carlos Jimenez, Republican out of Florida, saying the Salazar deal may be good only until the last day of Trump's presidency, making elections necessary soon, saying you cannot build a lasting prosperity with a dictatorship.
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  SPEAKER_35: Jimenez said in the aftermath of the deal announced, he posted that it was an interim dictator, that Rodriguez was only an interim dictator, and noted the powerful Maduro ally remains in place of Diosdado Cabelo.
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  SPEAKER_35: But as I mentioned before, and what was stated here in the article, clearly these individuals are speaking to their base of voters who may be more directly impacted or simply are regionally more aware and concerned about the issues surrounding Venezuela.
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  SPEAKER_35: Senator Ted Cruz offered a more supportive assessment on Sunday, saying the oil agreement could have a very positive impact while stressing Venezuela must quickly move towards democratic free elections.
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  SPEAKER_35: One of the harshest attacks came from a Harvard economist, uh Ricardo Haussman, former Venezuelan planning minister, who directly accused the Secretary of State Marco Rubio of abandoning the country's democratic opposition.
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  SPEAKER_35: And much like the Republicans that are frustrated over these moves as well, you know, I think there's personal interest in play that is, again, prompting the blowback coming from uh Republicans.
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  SPEAKER_35: It seems like Republicans outside of the areas where their constituents may have an abundance of concern seem to be generally supportive of Trump's efforts, not just to realign the distribution of Venezuelans, Venezuela's oil globally, but also the potential positive impact that it could have on our own energy future, and more specifically lowering the prices at the pump ahead of the November uh midterm elections.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when you're when there's money attached to it and you're being told, like, you know, not only do you have to bill for this time now, but you have to bill like this amount of time in order to like keep an organization viable in order to pay employees, then it becomes a whole separate thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then suddenly, you know, programs and organizations were giving incentives if you bill a hundred hours a month, if you, you know, and there's like maximums for every single person.
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  SPEAKER_29: Good morning, John.
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  SPEAKER_29: The gas price issue drives me crazy because you see these wild fluctuations.
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  SPEAKER_29: Last week I was paying$429 up in Cable, Wisconsin, and now I just saw it down to$384, and then they'll go up again, and then it'll go down again.
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  SPEAKER_29: And what I wonder is what kind of game is being played by these oil companies?
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  SPEAKER_29: Because I know they're making record profits, so what's the gig that you can do?
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  SPEAKER_29: A 30 cent increase, 40 cent increase in one day, and then go back down, up and down, up and down, kind of disturbing.
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  SPEAKER_35: Yeah, on the ScottCon level this morning for a friend of the show, Scott, that was about a three and a half, if not a four.
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  SPEAKER_35: But I don't know what kind of latitude do the do the independent gas station owners, like what kind of latitude that they have when it comes to the prices?
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  SPEAKER_35: Because I'm with him.
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  SPEAKER_35: The prices fluctuate wildly, and I don't know what kind of parameters that typically your your gas station owners have to work in, whether or not they're sort of artificially inflating some of those uh prices.
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  SPEAKER_35: It would seem counterproductive, obviously.
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  SPEAKER_35: You want people to purchase your your gas, and so if you're paying, you know, if you're charging more than the place across the street, then that doesn't seem like it's very logical.
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  SPEAKER_35: But I don't know what kind of latitude that the you know the gas station owners typically have.
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  SPEAKER_35: If you have any insight on that, I would be uh uh I'd be interested to uh to hear from you.
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  SPEAKER_35: Let's go back to the blaster line that's gonna be.
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  SPEAKER_35: Let me pause it here.
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  SPEAKER_35: He has more to say.
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  SPEAKER_35: What he's referring to is there's a group of individuals, and I didn't finish my thought on this uh last hour.
• 1:21:41
  SPEAKER_35: There's a group of individuals that have parked themselves uh outside of the Minnesota uh GOP booth.
• 1:21:49
  SPEAKER_35: They're out on the street and they're a certain distance away from the booth, and I'm assuming they're doing that because of the of the rules, but there's not supposed to be any protesting taking place.
• 1:21:59
  SPEAKER_35: And so these groups of individuals are not carrying signs because you're not allowed to carry signs, but they are wearing t-shirts that are negative towards uh the towards the GOP.
• 1:22:09
  SPEAKER_35: I thought it was funny, all the shirts are yellow, which is typically the color of cowards.
• 1:22:16
  SPEAKER_35: These are individuals with indivisible.
• 1:22:18
  SPEAKER_35: So I don't expect them to be rational in any way, shape, or or form.
• 1:22:24
  SPEAKER_35: And to your point, there was already an individual who was, I believe, a Republican who was out there wearing a yellow shirt and standing, standing with him, at least at the time when I went going by the uh the booth on Saturday, Saturday afternoon.
• 1:22:39
  SPEAKER_35: Uh it was funny because uh uh Catherine Johnson had posted up on X because American Experiment was out there all day on Saturday.
• 1:22:47
  SPEAKER_35: And uh, you know, the the CEO of American Experiment, John Henderrocker, was there as well.
• 1:22:52
  SPEAKER_35: And we were all in the booth hanging out as we people were spinning the wheel, all of which had the wrong track Minnesota items on it for the amazing uh logoed uh gifts that we were giving away.
• 1:23:02
  SPEAKER_35: But uh Catherine had posted, you know, where did John go?
• 1:23:04
  SPEAKER_35: And then, oh, he's over talking with the protesters, and there's a picture of John Henderrocker talking with the uh the four men and women in the from Indivisible in the yellow shirts that were uh protesting uh the Minnesota GOP.
• 1:23:17
  SPEAKER_17: What's going on?
• 1:23:18
  SPEAKER_17: Let's outnumber them.
• 1:23:19
  SPEAKER_17: Let's get our message out there on t-shirts and stand in front of them and block them from interrupting our wonderful booth.
• 1:23:27
  SPEAKER_17: Thanks.
• 1:23:28
  SPEAKER_17: Have a great day.
• 1:23:29
  SPEAKER_35: Nah, you know what?
• 1:23:30
  SPEAKER_35: I just I typically don't get on board with that.
• 1:23:32
  SPEAKER_35: Let them look like fools.
• 1:23:33
  SPEAKER_35: They do.
• 1:23:35
  SPEAKER_35: They're not changing any hearts and minds.
• 1:23:37
  SPEAKER_35: It's completely self-serving.
• 1:23:39
  SPEAKER_35: They're not accomplishing anything other than their misguided notion that what they're doing is actually of substance.
• 1:23:49
  SPEAKER_35: That wearing a t-shirt that has all of the ridiculous assertions and claims that they have on them, if they want to stand there for hours on end as people walk by barely pay attention, as they block the roadway, they're probably causing more frustration than they are anything else, then then you know, then let them.
• 1:24:07
  SPEAKER_35: Let them do it.
• 1:24:08
  SPEAKER_35: No.
• 1:24:09
  SPEAKER_35: I did think it was funny that the guy was wearing a yellow t-shirt and he was standing next to them, but at the same time, no man, let them let them have their stupid, silly little little protest.
• 1:24:20
  SPEAKER_35: It's no different than when they go and they line the overpasses of our of our highways here in in Minnesota.
• 1:24:27
  SPEAKER_35: It's the same thing.
• 1:24:28
  SPEAKER_35: You know, indivisible.
• 1:24:29
  SPEAKER_35: There was one, somebody posted this online.
• 1:24:31
  SPEAKER_35: I think it was actually attached to a photograph of the individuals wearing the the protest t-shirts in front of the GOP booth.
• 1:24:36
  SPEAKER_35: But they had been shown a photo of indivisible uh that was on an overpass, and I think it just said we are indivisible, and there were people standing there.
• 1:24:46
  SPEAKER_35: Well, but that doesn't mean anything to to anybody.
• 1:24:48
  SPEAKER_35: What does that even what does that mean to an individual who's who's passing who's passing by?
• 1:24:55
  SPEAKER_35: Yeah, you tell me.
• 1:24:56
  SPEAKER_35: All right.
• 1:24:57
  SPEAKER_35: The new number is 651-964-0294.
• 1:25:00
  SPEAKER_35: Again, 651-964-0294.
• 1:25:05
  SPEAKER_35: Uh, Ryan uh Wilson, who has arrived here at the at the uh studios here at Center of the American Experiment, he'll be joining us on the comfy sofa in about five minutes.
• 1:25:14
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  SPEAKER_35: The price goes up and down based on the projected barrel price.
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• 1:26:08
  SPEAKER_35: All right, ahead of my conversation with Lieutenant Governor uh candidate uh Ryan Wilson, let's go here.
• 1:26:15
  SPEAKER_35: Let's see, the Minnesota Supreme Court rejected Mike Lindell's petition for a recount in um the state's gubernatorial primary.
• 1:26:24
  SPEAKER_35: Lindell lost the Republican primary for governor earlier this month to Lisa Damath by 11 points.
• 1:26:29
  SPEAKER_35: Lindell then indicated that he would seek a recount, citing anomalies in the results.
• 1:26:34
  SPEAKER_35: However, Lindell's team and the Minnesota Secretary of State's office disagreed on the parameters of the recount.
• 1:26:41
  SPEAKER_35: Lindell argued that the law requires a tally of all the votes for each candidate in both the Democratic, uh, Democratic and Republican primaries for governor.
• 1:26:51
  SPEAKER_35: Now, Lindell claimed the procedures to be used for the recount were not made clear to him until August 24th, which was the last day for him to transfer the$825,000 required to pay for the recount.
• 1:27:08
  SPEAKER_35: The question that I have, so were they not made clear to him, or was he just not clear of what the rules were?
• 1:27:15
  SPEAKER_35: I'm just asking.
• 1:27:16
  SPEAKER_35: He asked the Supreme Court to order a full recount that would include the recording of votes for every candidate.
• 1:27:22
  SPEAKER_35: Conversely, state attorneys for the Secretary of State's office and state canvassing board argued that Lindell was personally notified of the recount procedures on August 18th, but waited until the final minutes of the last day to petition for court this court for relief.
• 1:27:40
  SPEAKER_35: The recount procedure adopted by the board included all ballots cast for the primary elections for governor.
• 1:27:46
  SPEAKER_35: Those ballots would be tallied for Lindell, Damath, and other.
• 1:27:50
  SPEAKER_35: Such a count would determine the number of votes validly cast for the election, the state argued.
• 1:27:57
  SPEAKER_35: That procedure combines with the counting.
• 1:28:00
  SPEAKER_35: Methodology described in the Minnesota rules.
• 1:28:03
  SPEAKER_35: Now, in a decision that was released on Saturday, the Minnesota State Supreme Court sided with the state, finding that the Secretary of State and the State Canvassing Board were not committing any wrongful act of omission or error.
• 1:28:15
  SPEAKER_35: And listen, I'm no fan of the Minnesota State Supreme Court by any stretch.
• 1:28:21
  SPEAKER_35: But we're also talking about something that is based off of current statute, current rules, and not really open to that much interpretation.
• 1:28:32
  SPEAKER_35: Right?
• 1:28:32
  SPEAKER_35: This is just based off of the facts of the rules here in Minnesota.
• 1:28:39
  SPEAKER_35: So with that being said, listen, the Lindell attorneys, the Lindell camp, they played a strategy here and they lost the strategy.
• 1:28:48
  SPEAKER_35: It's as simple as that.
• 1:28:50
  SPEAKER_35: Now, as such, of what I mentioned, Lindell's position, uh petition was rejected.
• 1:28:55
  SPEAKER_35: He did tell uh MPR that he plans to appeal the case to the U.S.
• 1:29:00
  SPEAKER_35: Supreme Court because, of course, he does.
• 1:29:02
  SPEAKER_18: Hey, John Eric from Tennessee.
• 1:29:04
  SPEAKER_18: So nice being able to appreciate a full ScottCon effect with the new audio.
• 1:29:09
  SPEAKER_18: Mike Lindell filed that appeal, never intending to actually do the recount.
• 1:29:15
  SPEAKER_18: He just wanted the publicity.
• 1:29:17
  SPEAKER_18: He knew there was no way to overcome a 40,000 vote deficit.
• 1:29:20
  SPEAKER_18: He just wanted the publicity not to go down without a fight, which is really sad because I had so much respect for the guy years ago, and it's just all lost now.
• 1:29:29
  SPEAKER_35: Uh, thank you for the comments, uh, Eric from uh Tennessee.
• 1:29:33
  SPEAKER_35: I appreciate it.
• 1:29:34
  SPEAKER_35: Uh, we have a text that came in says, I want to thank the Center of the American Experiment Saturday afternoon.
• 1:29:38
  SPEAKER_35: My 14-year-old son and his friend visited the booth.
• 1:29:42
  SPEAKER_35: Um, it was a highlight of his fair trip.
• 1:29:44
  SPEAKER_35: It gives me hope that the youth are engaged and heading in the right way.
• 1:29:48
  SPEAKER_35: Oh, and he loves his uh hacky sack as well.
• 1:29:50
  SPEAKER_35: I kept screwing up when they were spinning the wheel because on the wheel, the hacky sack and the beach ball looked almost identical.
• 1:29:58
  SPEAKER_33: Yeah, John Hinderocker had to keep correcting me.
• 1:30:00
  SPEAKER_35: He's like, I'm like, you got a beach ball?
• 1:30:02
  SPEAKER_35: He's like, no, actually, they got a hacky sack.
• 1:30:03
  SPEAKER_35: I'm like, gosh darn it.
• 1:30:05
  SPEAKER_33: Made the mistake again.
• 1:30:08
  SPEAKER_35: So thank you to uh uh to everybody again who came out on uh on Saturday.
• 1:30:13
  SPEAKER_35: Uh one last program uh programming note, and then we're gonna be talking in just a few minutes here with Ryan Wilson, Lieutenant Governor candidate um uh with the Lisa Damath uh campaign.
• 1:30:22
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• 1:30:51
  SPEAKER_35: So we'll talk with uh Ryan Wilson here in uh just a moment, here on the John Justice show.
• 1:30:56
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  SPEAKER_03: We have not slowed down.
• 1:32:19
  SPEAKER_03: There is no sense in which the fraud has been stopped in Minnesota.
• 1:32:23
  SPEAKER_03: In Minnesota, we also have group homes that are licensed as assisted living facilities.
• 1:32:29
  SPEAKER_03: And we have something along the order of 2,500 of these licensed across the state, but about 20% of them, around three, four hundred of them, have just been started in the last year.
• 1:32:42
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not sure if there's a real underlying driver in the demographics or the demand for these facilities, but it's odd that we have these assisted living facilities linked to Medicaid fraud.
• 1:32:54
  SPEAKER_03: At the same time, the Minnesota Department of Health is approving more than one a day.
• 1:33:00
  SPEAKER_03: More than one new facility gets approved every single day, 365 days a year.
• 1:33:05
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't think anybody is really giving any thought to, hey, maybe some of this is not on the up and up.
• 1:33:10
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• 1:33:17
  SPEAKER_53: And one of the intriguing people here, of course, is Alexandria Ocasio Cortez.
• 1:33:23
  SPEAKER_53: Um uh and I got two questions about her.
• 1:33:26
  SPEAKER_53: Number one, do you take her seriously as a presidential candidate?
• 1:33:30
  SPEAKER_53: And number two, this this comment that she made the other day about how woke 1.0 was crazy, right?
• 1:33:38
  SPEAKER_53: But now I guess we have woke 2.0, which seems to me to be even crazier.
• 1:33:42
  SPEAKER_53: But what do you make of that as a as an effort to uh dodge the past?
• 1:33:47
  SPEAKER_07: Well, first of all, you just don't get to do that.
• 1:33:49
  SPEAKER_07: I'm sorry.
• 1:33:50
  SPEAKER_07: You can't laugh it off all the horrible things that were done in the in the first woke period, and just say, Oh, we were all kind of crazy.
• 1:33:58
  SPEAKER_07: You you don't get to do that.
• 1:34:00
  SPEAKER_07: You you are held accountable uh for the things that you said.
• 1:34:04
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• 1:34:35
  SPEAKER_27: Hey John, Tim from Cambridge.
• 1:34:37
  SPEAKER_27: Yeah, I'm still laughing from when I was at the state fair and standing in line for something right next to the Lisa Damus booth.
• 1:34:44
  SPEAKER_27: And this chick next to me is like, well, hopefully I'm not close enough that people think that I support her.
• 1:34:50
  SPEAKER_27: And of course, you know, not being completely sober, I had to respond with we get it, you don't like black women.
• 1:34:57
  SPEAKER_27: It's fine.
• 1:34:58
  SPEAKER_27: Really, really flustered her.
• 1:35:01
  SPEAKER_27: Died laughing.
• 1:35:02
  SPEAKER_35: It just makes me laugh how superficial.
• 1:35:05
  SPEAKER_35: I guess, you know, I guess there's no party exclusivity for people being superficial uh like that.
• 1:35:11
  SPEAKER_35: So thank you for the uh for the blast, even though I may not agree with your comment towards the individual there, be that as it may, at least you did admit that you may have been imbibing a little bit.
• 1:35:21
  SPEAKER_35: Uh very pleased to welcome.
• 1:35:23
  SPEAKER_35: Speaking of Lisa Damath and the gubernatorial campaign, uh Lieutenant Governor uh candidate along with uh Lisa uh Damath is a gubernatorial candidate.
• 1:35:31
  SPEAKER_35: Ryan Wilson uh joins us once again here on the comfy sofa at the American Experiment Studios.
• 1:35:36
  SPEAKER_35: Good morning, sir.
• 1:35:37
  SPEAKER_35: Looks like we've got the memos we're matching this morning for those that are watching.
• 1:35:40
  SPEAKER_35: Good morning, great to be back.
• 1:35:42
  SPEAKER_35: So, um, what's your fair schedule like and how's it been so far for uh for you and the uh for you and the and the campaign?
• 1:35:48
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, it's just been off the charts.
• 1:35:49
  SPEAKER_06: You know, I did the fair four years ago when I ran for state auditor.
• 1:35:52
  SPEAKER_06: We had our own booth, and it was a great way to bring visibility to the campaign.
• 1:35:55
  SPEAKER_06: And this is this is ten times beyond what we ever could have imagined.
• 1:35:59
  SPEAKER_06: And you know, you'll see online the campaigns go back and forth, you know, who has more people at their fair booth?
• 1:36:03
  SPEAKER_06: Clearly have more us than Amy, to be clear.
• 1:36:05
  SPEAKER_06: Um, but it's the energy.
• 1:36:07
  SPEAKER_06: That's you know, that's the difference is you know, when Lisa shows up there, uh a crowd will will swarm her.
• 1:36:12
  SPEAKER_06: People can go see it for themselves.
• 1:36:13
  SPEAKER_06: Um, you know, it's not just a photo line of, you know, again, if you look at Amy Klobuchar's uh pictures that she puts on Facebook, you know, it's people just going up to take a picture, get out.
• 1:36:22
  SPEAKER_06: You know, you can go have a conversation with Lisa.
• 1:36:24
  SPEAKER_06: You can ask her anything.
• 1:36:25
  SPEAKER_06: A lot of I'm you know, I'm right there with her, and a lot of tough questions I'm getting to overhear her ask and uh get her get asked and answered.
• 1:36:30
  SPEAKER_06: And and um quick anecdote if I could, before we go.
• 1:36:33
  SPEAKER_06: I know we're here to talk about the affordability plan and stuff like that rolled out.
• 1:36:36
  SPEAKER_06: But um, one of the first days we're there, we're walking around the fair with a journalist doing a story.
• 1:36:40
  SPEAKER_06: And that's what they journalists will all schedule times with all the candidates and walk around the fair and ask questions and and um we're paused for a moment and we're sitting there talking in the middle of one of the streets, and a Democrat comes up to Lisa out of the blues, recognizes her, uh, says, Look, I'm I'm in a union.
• 1:36:55
  SPEAKER_06: I think it was a pipe fitter, and said, I go, I'm not a Republican, to be clear, but I'm voting for you, and here's why I'm voting for you.
• 1:37:01
  SPEAKER_06: And it's some of the things that we're talking about talk about here here today.
• 1:37:03
  SPEAKER_06: Not more than two minutes later, it happens again.
• 1:37:05
  SPEAKER_06: Another person comes up uh and uh joins the conversation and says, You know, I'm a Democrat and I'm voting for you.
• 1:37:11
  SPEAKER_06: And so um I think there's something happening here where Minnesotans are waking up and they're seeing the lack of common sense, and they just want to get things back to normal.
• 1:37:19
  SPEAKER_06: And they they want to stop having Minnesota be, you know, the fraud capital of the country.
• 1:37:24
  SPEAKER_06: They want to stop a lot of these things that have happened over the last eight years under Governor Walls, and they see that this is really uh um a continuation, that the Klobuchar kind of regime would be the same as the Walls regime, you know, meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
• 1:37:37
  SPEAKER_06: And it it's something is happening then.
• 1:37:38
  SPEAKER_06: You can there's an energy at the fair that you can feel, and I think that's gonna carry over the next two months in this uh campaign.
• 1:37:44
  SPEAKER_35: Well, what's interesting is you're kind of dovetailing off of a narrative that's that's formed a bit on the on the show.
• 1:37:51
  SPEAKER_35: It started with um my observing and the observing of others that the the tone around talking about Minnesota has shifted.
• 1:38:03
  SPEAKER_35: Um I think that those outside of the state look at all of the coverage that the state gets and it's it's not positive, right?
• 1:38:09
  SPEAKER_35: There's a lot of negativity.
• 1:38:11
  SPEAKER_35: Um but over a long enough timeline, we know that a lot of people have left the state.
• 1:38:15
  SPEAKER_35: This has been documented.
• 1:38:16
  SPEAKER_35: And I've made the, you know, the the observation on the show that, you know, the people that are here, it seems as if are individuals who have committed themselves to staying and living here in in Minnesota.
• 1:38:29
  SPEAKER_35: And so therefore they want to see it improved.
• 1:38:30
  SPEAKER_35: So they have a vested interest because they either didn't have the means to leave or could have left, you know, myself included, but decided to go and stay here because we feel like the state is worth uh fighting for.
• 1:38:41
  SPEAKER_35: So you take that, but also I find your comment interesting because of this idea that's growing a bit, and we're seeing more examples of it, that Democrats here in Minnesota, they're more aligned with Republicans on a lot of these core issues than most people realize, and that they may even realize, and that they want to go and vote for Democrats because that's what they've been told to do.
• 1:39:06
  SPEAKER_35: But what they want are those Democrats to go and govern like Republicans.
• 1:39:09
  SPEAKER_35: So the question that I had for you, and it kind of fits in nicely with your anecdotal story, is like, how do you go about tapping into that?
• 1:39:18
  SPEAKER_35: Like, I almost feel like you need to get to a point where you have to say, I know you've been told that we're that uh that Republicans are are evil and awful, but guess what?
• 1:39:26
  SPEAKER_35: I think we have a lot of common ground.
• 1:39:28
  SPEAKER_35: But how are you approaching it and to try to tap into what seems to be a growing sentiment among a lot of people, uh, Ryan Wilson?
• 1:39:34
  SPEAKER_06: It starts with having a great candidate.
• 1:39:36
  SPEAKER_06: And Lisa really is a great candidate, and I'm biased, of course.
• 1:39:39
  SPEAKER_06: Um, but just that authenticity.
• 1:39:40
  SPEAKER_06: There's a certain um, you know that she's gonna give you a straight answer, that she's gonna uh answer it directly.
• 1:39:46
  SPEAKER_06: You know, we see this time and again with Amy Klobuchar.
• 1:39:49
  SPEAKER_06: Well, she'll be asked something and is afraid to answer the question, needs to go, you know, think about it uh for 10 days, which really means I gotta go poll test it and figure out, you know, is this good or bad for me, right?
• 1:39:58
  SPEAKER_06: And so, whereas Lisa's just authentic, she's gonna tell you like it is, you know, of course we should stop fraud.
• 1:40:02
  SPEAKER_06: And she talks about how when she first came into the legislature, she was uh she brought forth a bill to stop a lot of the fraud that we ended up seeing with the child daycare, blocked by the Democrats, didn't go forward.
• 1:40:11
  SPEAKER_06: Um, and she was told by the people in the Democratic Party uh elected at that time that it was racist for her to bring up some of this fraud stuff, right?
• 1:40:18
  SPEAKER_06: And so your average Minnesotan hears that and says, that's not racist, that's just that's money, that's our money, that's taxpayer dollars.
• 1:40:23
  SPEAKER_06: You know, we need to be protecting that.
• 1:40:24
  SPEAKER_06: And so people are just are are seeing that the um that the the DFL has gone too far away from what they believe.
• 1:40:32
  SPEAKER_06: And again, these people aren't saying they're gonna become Republicans, but they're saying we need to take a break, we need to bring back some of that normal, some of that common sense.
• 1:40:39
  SPEAKER_06: You know, let's, you know, get rid of the fraud, let's make sure that the money is going to the people that it needs to go to, the people needs to help.
• 1:40:45
  SPEAKER_06: Let's make sure we got good schools, and let's make sure that when we get the money back, that it goes to help make it a little more affordable here in Minnesota, right?
• 1:40:52
  SPEAKER_06: And that and what is it gonna look like?
• 1:40:54
  SPEAKER_06: You know, what is that plan?
• 1:40:55
  SPEAKER_06: Not, you know, again, we see this from from Amy Klobucher all the time, which is, oh, I gotta study it or I gotta think about it.
• 1:41:00
  SPEAKER_06: You know, we with the when when Walls pardoned that child rapist, it took Amy 10 days to come out and finally say, you know what, I might not have not have done that.
• 1:41:08
  SPEAKER_06: Now she said nothing about future ones.
• 1:41:10
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, Lisa's clear, she's unequivocable.
• 1:41:12
  SPEAKER_06: I will not pardon a child rapist, right?
• 1:41:13
  SPEAKER_06: You see the same thing with mining.
• 1:41:14
  SPEAKER_06: Lisa comes out and talks very specifically about what she's gonna do with regards to Walls' ban on mining.
• 1:41:19
  SPEAKER_06: Amy, as of yesterday at the fair, is still saying, I'd have to study it, right?
• 1:41:22
  SPEAKER_06: It's two pages.
• 1:41:23
  SPEAKER_06: What do you got to study?
• 1:41:24
  SPEAKER_06: Um, and so that's just it's and so I think Minnesotans are seeing that and certain authenticity, tapping into a certain um just one of them, somebody that uh uh speaks to them and understands them, has lived a lot of the same life that they've lived.
• 1:41:35
  SPEAKER_35: So I know that um uh the the Damoth campaign, yourself and Lisa Damath, you've been laying out uh your different agenda items, what you want to do, your belief in getting the the state back on track.
• 1:41:48
  SPEAKER_35: And last week uh you have an affordability agenda that you uh came out and proposed, uh talking with Ryan Wilson, again, Lieutenant Governor candidate here on the John Justice show.
• 1:41:58
  SPEAKER_35: So let's talk a little bit um about what that looks like.
• 1:42:01
  SPEAKER_35: What is part, um, what are some of the core components of your affordability uh agenda?
• 1:42:06
  SPEAKER_06: And just remind everybody this starts with ending the fraud.
• 1:42:08
  SPEAKER_06: So two weeks ago, I think I was on here talking about how we're gonna end the fraud, gotta make sure people go to jail.
• 1:42:12
  SPEAKER_06: We're gonna get the money back if we need tools to get it, work with the legislature to get that, and we're gonna put people on lifetime bans.
• 1:42:18
  SPEAKER_06: You steal welfare, you're done getting it.
• 1:42:20
  SPEAKER_06: Go to another state if you want, but you're not gonna do it here, right?
• 1:42:22
  SPEAKER_06: So, what do we do once we start getting that money back and stopping the fraud so that the money in our budget can go, you know, where it needs to go?
• 1:42:28
  SPEAKER_06: Um, we're gonna do things like cut income taxes.
• 1:42:30
  SPEAKER_06: We talked about that.
• 1:42:30
  SPEAKER_06: The first the bot the first two tax brackets, giving people relief so they can keep more of their money to start with.
• 1:42:35
  SPEAKER_06: Property tax relief is a big one, right?
• 1:42:37
  SPEAKER_06: We gotta make sure, you know, it's skyrocketed.
• 1:42:39
  SPEAKER_06: We see headline after headline and double-digit increases for the second year.
• 1:42:42
  SPEAKER_06: Last year there was a billion dollars, I think it was the largest increase in property taxes across the state.
• 1:42:47
  SPEAKER_06: And those are coming from counties and cities, right?
• 1:42:49
  SPEAKER_06: But that's because what happened when the Democrats had total control.
• 1:42:52
  SPEAKER_06: They put a bunch of mandates in place that are kicking in now.
• 1:42:55
  SPEAKER_06: And so we're gonna relieve cities and counties from school districts from those expensive mandates and be able to deliver real property tax reform.
• 1:43:02
  SPEAKER_06: But then there's, you know, there's some of the things that this is what we hear at the fair.
• 1:43:05
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, we we didn't know that these would be kind of the two big, big popular ones, but people love the$99 car tabs.
• 1:43:11
  SPEAKER_06: And you know, we want to make it so that if you buy a new car, it's$99 first year, every year, never goes up.
• 1:43:18
  SPEAKER_06: And so people that are below$99 now here, you know, your car tabs aren't going up.
• 1:43:21
  SPEAKER_06: But$99 car tabs, and people just love that at the fair because they see that.
• 1:43:24
  SPEAKER_06: They they see that they buy a car and maybe it's a couple years old and and uh under the again under the Democrat control, they change the schedule to make it uh make it jump up again.
• 1:43:32
  SPEAKER_35: So let's uh let's go let me address a couple of a couple of these really quick.
• 1:43:35
  SPEAKER_35: Uh, first off, um I'm curious your thoughts.
• 1:43:38
  SPEAKER_35: Uh talking with a lieutenant governor uh candidate uh for the Republican Party with Lisa Damuth, Ryan Wilson.
• 1:43:44
  SPEAKER_35: I'm I'm curious your thoughts of there's been uh this angle in local media regarding the dollar amount attached to fraud.
• 1:43:53
  SPEAKER_35: So you have Tom Hauser, you have Channel 5, uh KSTP.
• 1:43:56
  SPEAKER_35: Um they're going off of this um the amount attached to those who are actually prosecuted versus, you know, which is in the in the millions, the hundreds of millions of dollars, versus the nine billion dollar figure that gets handed uh out so uh so often, based off of the Minnesota attorney uh general, uh Minnesota attorney, excuse me, uh Joe Thompson and his assessment.
• 1:44:19
  SPEAKER_35: So first off, Ryan Wilson, I mean, what are your thoughts on this back and forth and um the difference between how you go and identify how much money has been stolen via fraud here in Minnesota?
• 1:44:30
  SPEAKER_06: Well, first I'd ask my Democrat Democrat uh uh friends or colleagues here, how much fraud is okay then?
• 1:44:36
  SPEAKER_06: If not nine billion, seven billion, five billion, where's their number?
• 1:44:39
  SPEAKER_06: To us, no fraud is okay.
• 1:44:41
  SPEAKER_06: And our actions show that.
• 1:44:42
  SPEAKER_06: But look, Joe Thompson, nobody would say that he's a partisan, right?
• 1:44:46
  SPEAKER_06: I believe he came in under Andy Luger.
• 1:44:47
  SPEAKER_06: Uh I think Andy Luger hired him.
• 1:44:49
  SPEAKER_06: Um he's been through multiple administrations.
• 1:44:51
  SPEAKER_06: Uh his$9 billion is, you know, somebody else can put out another number, but that's the number that we're going with and has been going with, right?
• 1:44:58
  SPEAKER_06: Um, we don't know the exact number, could be more than that, uh, because we haven't been looking for so long.
• 1:45:02
  SPEAKER_06: When you turn a blind eye to fraud, of course you're only gonna prosecute a little bit of it.
• 1:45:06
  SPEAKER_06: Most of it's being prosecuted by the feds right now, right?
• 1:45:08
  SPEAKER_06: And so our state hasn't even started really to dig into some of that.
• 1:45:11
  SPEAKER_06: And so when you get a Republican administration and then Republican governor, Governor Damath is gonna make sure that we are uncovering and finding this fraud.
• 1:45:17
  SPEAKER_06: It's part of why in our fraud plan we talked about a couple weeks ago.
• 1:45:20
  SPEAKER_06: She's gonna appoint myself as her lieutenant governor to oversee, just like she had a fraud committee in the legislature to expose it, a fraud committee in the executive branch to stop it, make sure that agencies are rooting it out, that they're working across agency, that they're learning lessons from each other, and that they're finding the stuff that had been done under the last eight years of Governor Walls.
• 1:45:39
  SPEAKER_35: So let's go to the to the car tab uh fees.
• 1:45:42
  SPEAKER_35: So uh capping them at$99 um a year, I assume, right?
• 1:45:47
  SPEAKER_35: Um, how does that how does that work?
• 1:45:49
  SPEAKER_35: Does that is that something that the the governor's office can do?
• 1:45:52
  SPEAKER_35: Is this have to happen via the legislature?
• 1:45:54
  SPEAKER_35: How would you go about uh making this happen?
• 1:45:56
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, a lot of these proposals rely on working with the legislature to be able to deliver this relief for uh you know for Minnesotans.
• 1:46:02
  SPEAKER_06: And this is a great example of where Lisa, um having come from the legislature, having led the legislature, having been the speaker of the house, knows what's in the realm of reality, what's possible, right?
• 1:46:12
  SPEAKER_06: You know, she delivered big cuts for Minnesota in the past, even in a tied legislature with a Democrat governor and a Democrat Senate.
• 1:46:18
  SPEAKER_06: And so when we put these plans forward, we always go to look at are they deliverable?
• 1:46:22
  SPEAKER_06: Anybody can throw pie in the sky stuff, right?
• 1:46:24
  SPEAKER_06: And promise things in politics, but what can we deliver on for Minnesotans?
• 1:46:27
  SPEAKER_06: And so these are all rooted in reality.
• 1:46:28
  SPEAKER_06: And so something like the$99 car tabs, um, that's something that we believe that we can do.
• 1:46:32
  SPEAKER_06: We look at the budgets and we can we can do it without compromising our roads or our bridges.
• 1:46:36
  SPEAKER_06: Look, nobody would say that over the last eight years under Tim Walls, that our roads have gotten uh substantially better.
• 1:46:42
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, you know, building a lot of light rails to nowhere, but not a lot of new lane miles, right?
• 1:46:46
  SPEAKER_06: Not a lot of roads, and and congestion certainly hasn't gotten better, right?
• 1:46:49
  SPEAKER_06: And so um we you will see that under a Damath Wilson administration, you're gonna get better transportation, better roads, and cheaper car tabs.
• 1:46:58
  SPEAKER_35: When it comes to, and I heard this when I was there from some uh some listeners of the show, I put them in the faux category, but they were they were reasonable individuals.
• 1:47:08
  SPEAKER_35: Those on the left just simply cannot get past President Donald Trump.
• 1:47:12
  SPEAKER_35: I've seen the ads that have been running, um, the um, I won't call them attack ads, but uh packs that are that are uh for uh Amy Clobichar.
• 1:47:21
  SPEAKER_35: And they talk about how, well, Lisa Damath has not disagreed with anything uh that the Trump administration has has said or or done.
• 1:47:30
  SPEAKER_35: I'm kind of paraphrasing.
• 1:47:31
  SPEAKER_35: That's that was my takeaway from the ads that I was seeing.
• 1:47:33
  SPEAKER_35: How do you respond to those individuals who you know immediately are turned off and don't want to vote for anybody because of their association, not just with the Republican Party, but with Trump specifically.
• 1:47:44
  SPEAKER_35: How do you address those individuals, Ryan Wilson?
• 1:47:45
  SPEAKER_06: Well, first of all, it's a Democrat lie because there are a couple places where Lisa has disagreed with the president.
• 1:47:50
  SPEAKER_06: For example, when uh a bunch of beef got dumped, foreign beef got dumped into our country.
• 1:47:53
  SPEAKER_06: She came out and made a pretty strong statement about that.
• 1:47:56
  SPEAKER_06: She's been um clear that on tariffs that there is a place for them, broad-based, she's not a fan of, but precise tariffs.
• 1:48:02
  SPEAKER_06: And so there are places, you know, Lisa is her own person.
• 1:48:04
  SPEAKER_06: She's an independent person, willing to stand up early to either party.
• 1:48:08
  SPEAKER_06: Um, and so people got to ask them, like taking a step back, ask themselves, why would you know these outside Democrat groups try to paint it this way?
• 1:48:15
  SPEAKER_06: It's all poll-tested stuff that they're doing, right?
• 1:48:17
  SPEAKER_06: They want to distract voters from who is the real person, who is the real Lisa Damath, what does she stand for?
• 1:48:24
  SPEAKER_06: You look into her bio and her background, and and she's just got a really neat life story.
• 1:48:28
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, just a lot of you know from her early ages, you know, what you know, how she grew up, um, you know, single mom, um, on welfare.
• 1:48:34
  SPEAKER_06: She knows she lived a couple blocks just south of what's now George Floyd Square, right?
• 1:48:38
  SPEAKER_06: And so she's she's lived these experiences that um really touch on a lot of things.
• 1:48:42
  SPEAKER_06: You know, as a as a mom, you know, she had students that survived uh a school shooting in the early 2000s, right?
• 1:48:47
  SPEAKER_06: Take that all the way, you know, she's a hockey mom, you know, she grew up through all, you know, all these things that we would um uh see that she's just a real, a real person.
• 1:48:54
  SPEAKER_06: It's the only way that they, you know, the Democrats can try to convince people otherwise to try to tie her to, you know, whether it be they think the president or president's policies.
• 1:49:01
  SPEAKER_06: Um but if we look at the substance of things, and this is let's take it back to this affordability for a second.
• 1:49:05
  SPEAKER_06: Look at what people do, not what they say.
• 1:49:07
  SPEAKER_06: Amy Klobuchar says she wants to make Minnesota more affordable.
• 1:49:11
  SPEAKER_06: She voted for the largest tax crease on the middle class in history.
• 1:49:14
  SPEAKER_06: Now, thank goodness it didn't pass and the Republicans prevailed, but would have been the largest tax increase on the middle class.
• 1:49:20
  SPEAKER_06: But now she wants to say she's for the middle class.
• 1:49:22
  SPEAKER_06: Let's compare that to what Lisa's proposing here, right?
• 1:49:24
  SPEAKER_06: $99 car tabs, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, uh, no tax on social security.
• 1:49:30
  SPEAKER_06: That was another big one at the fair.
• 1:49:31
  SPEAKER_06: People loved loved that one.
• 1:49:32
  SPEAKER_06: And these are the things that hit our everyday Minnesotans pocketbooks.
• 1:49:35
  SPEAKER_06: And so again, it'll be the choice people get to vote between.
• 1:49:38
  SPEAKER_06: And it gets back to credibility, right?
• 1:49:39
  SPEAKER_06: Is it credible for somebody like Amy Clobuchar to be at FarmFest and say, I stand with farmers, then fly back and vote against the farm bill?
• 1:49:47
  SPEAKER_06: I have to say, I stand with miners and then go vote against mining, right?
• 1:49:51
  SPEAKER_06: It's just time and again that it's say one thing, do another.
• 1:49:53
  SPEAKER_06: Look at what Lisa said, look at what she's passed in the legislature in a tight house, and uh and look what she's willing to deliver for Minnesotans.
• 1:50:00
  SPEAKER_35: We had a text that came in, uh brand new blaster line this morning at 651-964-0294.
• 1:50:06
  SPEAKER_35: You can leave a voice message and you can leave us a text.
• 1:50:09
  SPEAKER_35: We got a text that says, speaking of card tabs, we just bought a used 2023 Ford Exposition for like$40,000.
• 1:50:17
  SPEAKER_35: The car tab was around$999.
• 1:50:23
  SPEAKER_35: I just went through that with with Monty.
• 1:50:25
  SPEAKER_35: I think I was, I think it was three to four hundred dollars for my for for my car tabs.
• 1:50:31
  SPEAKER_35: Um, and it didn't need to be that.
• 1:50:32
  SPEAKER_35: I mean, completely apart, even apart from what you guys are proposing, the frustrating thing from my aspect of it is it didn't need to happen.
• 1:50:39
  SPEAKER_35: It wasn't this wasn't something that that was necessary or or or needed to happen.
• 1:50:43
  SPEAKER_35: Um, I want to go back to a uh uh an audio message that we got to the blaster line.
• 1:50:49
  SPEAKER_35: Let's play this as we talk with Ryan Wheeler.
• 1:50:51
  SPEAKER_25: Good morning.
• 1:50:52
  SPEAKER_25: When when you guys are talking about fraud, is there anything that can be done about the actual consequences?
• 1:50:57
  SPEAKER_25: You know, I watch these cases and someone does five and a half million in fraud, and you know, they get the equivalent of five months on house arrest or you know, four months in jail.
• 1:51:08
  SPEAKER_25: They're not even getting a year and a day and going to prison.
• 1:51:12
  SPEAKER_25: And I think to myself, man, I mean, w why wouldn't you commit the fraud at that point?
• 1:51:17
  SPEAKER_25: It's only your morality that keeps you from doing it.
• 1:51:20
  SPEAKER_25: There's no real consequence.
• 1:51:21
  SPEAKER_25: How do you get the prosecutors and the judges to actually make sure that uh there are consequences for people when they break the law?
• 1:51:28
  SPEAKER_35: Now I have my own thoughts on this, Blast, but Ryan Wilson, what's sort of your instinctive reaction when you hear a comment like that?
• 1:51:34
  SPEAKER_06: Let's start to the plan that we put out back in uh late November, early December, which is a judicial selection plan.
• 1:51:39
  SPEAKER_06: So we've had 16 years of Democrat-appointed judges here.
• 1:51:42
  SPEAKER_06: We have to return our bench back to a philosophy where uh the victims are the real victims.
• 1:51:48
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, Democrats see the criminal as the victim, and that needs to end here in Minnesota, right?
• 1:51:53
  SPEAKER_06: But beyond that, for fraud and fraud in particular, and we talked about this when we rolled out our fraud plan, is we need to make sure there are mandatory minimums.
• 1:51:59
  SPEAKER_06: You steal from a hungry kid, you steal from a mom who needs that little extra money to not have to go live in her car with her kids, they're going to jail, mandatory minimum, no exceptions.
• 1:52:09
  SPEAKER_06: That's number one.
• 1:52:10
  SPEAKER_06: Two, we got to get the money back.
• 1:52:12
  SPEAKER_06: Too often these fraud stars get a little slap on the wrist, they get to, you know, they get a small penalty, but they get to keep the other or appears that get to keep the other millions of dollars left over.
• 1:52:19
  SPEAKER_06: We're gonna make sure that we're getting their assets, we're getting their cars, we're getting their Porsches, we're getting the money back so that we can return that money back to the people of Minnesota.
• 1:52:27
  SPEAKER_06: And again, we got to keep them from doing it again.
• 1:52:29
  SPEAKER_06: And that's where that lifetime ban comes into place.
• 1:52:31
  SPEAKER_06: And so you do those three things.
• 1:52:32
  SPEAKER_06: You care enough about fraud to actually want to stop it.
• 1:52:34
  SPEAKER_06: That's how you end it once and for all.
• 1:52:36
  SPEAKER_06: And you gotta change the culture.
• 1:52:37
  SPEAKER_06: You know, look, Lisa and I are gonna fire every epity deputy commissioner, every commissioner, you touched fraud, you're out.
• 1:52:43
  SPEAKER_06: At least I've been really clear.
• 1:52:44
  SPEAKER_06: Um, every commissioner is gone, every deputy commissioner uh is gone, every assistant commissioner gone.
• 1:52:51
  SPEAKER_06: We need a fresh start in Minnesota.
• 1:52:53
  SPEAKER_06: We can't afford the status quo.
• 1:52:54
  SPEAKER_06: Minnesota cannot afford the status quo under what walls that the state level and Amy Cloba chart, the federal level have been providing for us.
• 1:53:01
  SPEAKER_35: Let's go back to the uh blaster line here on the John Justice Show, presented by American Experiment Ryan Wilson, Lieutenant Governor candidate with a Lisa Damas campaign, joins us in studio.
• 1:53:10
  SPEAKER_35: Hey John, I'll do this again.
• 1:53:11
  SPEAKER_19: Good morning, Dennis from Southwest Minnesota.
• 1:53:14
  SPEAKER_19: That's great to hear from Ryan Wilson.
• 1:53:16
  SPEAKER_19: I like my tabs on my new 2026 pickup that I purchased three months ago was over a thousand dollars.
• 1:53:23
  SPEAKER_19: And it's gonna be there for the next two or three, maybe a lot more years.
• 1:53:27
  SPEAKER_19: That would be great if you guys do a lot of tax tests.
• 1:53:30
  SPEAKER_19: I also live on a lake in southwest Minnesota.
• 1:53:33
  SPEAKER_19: The taxes increases were just tremendous in Murray County, Southwest Minnesota.
• 1:53:39
  SPEAKER_19: It'd be good to look at that and get them down.
• 1:53:42
  SPEAKER_35: If enough's enough.
• 1:53:46
  SPEAKER_35: The DFL during the trifecta, Ryan Wilson, um, they, you know, so much of the surplus went to the expansion of various programs and just it costing us way too much money um here in in Minnesota.
• 1:53:59
  SPEAKER_35: How do you offset, though, the fact that the DFL has put in these programs that require a tremendous amount, a tremendous tax burden?
• 1:54:07
  SPEAKER_35: You want to do tax cuts, but we also don't want to end up losing services as well.
• 1:54:11
  SPEAKER_35: So, how do you how do you find um you know where that money is gonna come from if you're cutting, even though these programs are now dependent on tax revenue?
• 1:54:18
  SPEAKER_06: And our plan talks about that.
• 1:54:20
  SPEAKER_06: Uh talks about ending the fraud, and that's a big part of it.
• 1:54:22
  SPEAKER_06: Um, and then also agency savings.
• 1:54:24
  SPEAKER_06: Look, we talk about fraud, let's not forget about the waste and the abuse and the whole fraud, waste, and abuse.
• 1:54:29
  SPEAKER_06: You know, in the last 10 years, roughly 10 years, the budget of Minnesota has doubled.
• 1:54:35
  SPEAKER_06: Has your income doubled?
• 1:54:37
  SPEAKER_06: Have the number of roads doubled, number of police doubled, number of teachers at your school doubled?
• 1:54:41
  SPEAKER_06: No.
• 1:54:41
  SPEAKER_06: And so what have we gotten for that money?
• 1:54:43
  SPEAKER_06: Where is that money gone?
• 1:54:44
  SPEAKER_06: And I think what we're gonna find is a lot of that money, despite what the new narrative that's trying to be sewed is, is going into fraud.
• 1:54:50
  SPEAKER_06: I'll give you an example.
• 1:54:51
  SPEAKER_06: We were at the 4 H building and Lisa had the opportunity to congratulate uh some of the people showing there.
• 1:54:56
  SPEAKER_06: And afterwards, we walk out the back of it and we're kind of walking around the building, and there's a couple sitting there taking a break.
• 1:55:02
  SPEAKER_06: And one of them recognition the husband recognizes Lisa and says, Lisa, Lisa Damas, I just want to say hello.
• 1:55:06
  SPEAKER_06: And this is my wife here, you know, she's an independent, you know, she's not necessarily for you, but I just want to say hi to you.
• 1:55:11
  SPEAKER_06: And and and uh the wife says, you know, hi, I'm Lisa, and I'm you know, I am I think I am gonna vote for you and says, why?
• 1:55:17
  SPEAKER_06: And so she um I won't say where she's from, but she's down south and she's a social service worker, so helps get people and works for the county, helps get people onto welfare, and says, just in one day alone, she saw a family come in and steal$16,000 that they weren't owed from that welfare program and reported that up the chain, doesn't go anywhere.
• 1:55:36
  SPEAKER_06: And so she asked us, can we end that?
• 1:55:37
  SPEAKER_06: And so that's one person, one anecdote walking around one building that came up to us.
• 1:55:41
  SPEAKER_06: And so don't tell me there's not more fraud than we know about here, more fraud that's been prosecuted.
• 1:55:47
  SPEAKER_06: And so it's out there and it's gonna involve a culture change.
• 1:55:50
  SPEAKER_06: You have to want to stop it, and we can't have more of the same.
• 1:55:53
  SPEAKER_06: And you know, I we talked last week about this, but this whole idea of more of the same, you got Amy Klobuchar who loves to do a press conference, loves to get, you know, do a photo op.
• 1:56:02
  SPEAKER_06: But from the time Feeding Our Future happened until the time she decided she wanted to come back and you know from DC and run in Minnesota, over a thousand press releases.
• 1:56:12
  SPEAKER_06: Not one talking about the welfare fraud here.
• 1:56:15
  SPEAKER_06: But she wants you to believe that this time she's gonna take it serious and be different.
• 1:56:19
  SPEAKER_06: Trust her to be different than the status quo has been for the last eight years.
• 1:56:22
  SPEAKER_06: I don't think so.
• 1:56:23
  SPEAKER_06: Minnesotans aren't that naive, and they're gonna reject that this fall.
• 1:56:26
  SPEAKER_35: Uh, before um I cut you loose this morning, I assume you're heading back to the fair.
• 1:56:29
  SPEAKER_35: You go back to the fair today?
• 1:56:30
  SPEAKER_35: Yeah, sometime today, I think later this afternoon.
• 1:56:32
  SPEAKER_35: Uh I'm curious, you know, talking with um the potential voters there.
• 1:56:36
  SPEAKER_35: Anything that's uh that's stuck out?
• 1:56:38
  SPEAKER_35: Any, you know, any commentary or questions that maybe you you weren't uh you weren't expecting, or maybe you haven't been hearing, you know, door knocking when you're you know out campaigning?
• 1:56:46
  SPEAKER_06: You know, what's surprising is it's a lot of the stuff actually that we have been hearing, it's uh it is affordability.
• 1:56:51
  SPEAKER_06: It is, I want to stay in Minnesota.
• 1:56:53
  SPEAKER_06: I get a lot of we're leaving in January.
• 1:56:56
  SPEAKER_06: We're done.
• 1:56:57
  SPEAKER_06: This is our last year here, unless you guys win.
• 1:56:59
  SPEAKER_06: And we tell them hope is on the way.
• 1:57:01
  SPEAKER_06: Help is on the way.
• 1:57:02
  SPEAKER_06: You know, we uh we're here, let us win in November, and you're gonna see that we're gonna deliver on these plans.
• 1:57:06
  SPEAKER_06: Minnesota is a great place.
• 1:57:07
  SPEAKER_06: We talk to our farmers and they say, I can't pick up my farm and move to another state.
• 1:57:11
  SPEAKER_06: We're here.
• 1:57:12
  SPEAKER_06: We've been here for generations.
• 1:57:13
  SPEAKER_06: We need to stay here, and Minnesota is worth fighting for.
• 1:57:15
  SPEAKER_06: And so people that come up to us, you know, they're talking about the affordability of the fraud.
• 1:57:19
  SPEAKER_06: And really, here's the overarching theme, and this is almost universal.
• 1:57:22
  SPEAKER_06: They want to bring back common sense and they want normal.
• 1:57:24
  SPEAKER_06: They just feel like there's been so much noise over the last eight years that they just they want government out of their lives, not in their lives.
• 1:57:32
  SPEAKER_35: Uh, Ryan Wilson, again, Lieutenant Governor candidate on Lisa Damas uh gubernatorial campaign.
• 1:57:37
  SPEAKER_35: Any place uh online you would like uh individuals to uh to go and check out?
• 1:57:41
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, check out Lisa4Mn.com.
• 1:57:43
  SPEAKER_06: We got our plans out there, Lisa F O R M N.com.
• 1:57:47
  SPEAKER_06: Any favorite foods so far at the fair?
• 1:57:49
  SPEAKER_35: Have you had the apple fries?
• 1:57:50
  SPEAKER_35: I just saw that line at the apple fry place was ridiculous.
• 1:57:52
  SPEAKER_35: Have you tried anything interesting this year yet?
• 1:57:54
  SPEAKER_06: Nothing too interesting yet, but I love the core.
• 1:57:55
  SPEAKER_06: I'm a big core guy, and so that's uh that's an easy one for me.
• 1:57:58
  SPEAKER_35: Yeah, just got to be aware of the uh of the free speech artwork going on when it comes to to that.
• 1:58:02
  SPEAKER_35: Uh hey, it's good to see you.
• 1:58:04
  SPEAKER_35: Uh enjoy yourself at the uh at the fair.
• 1:58:06
  SPEAKER_35: And thank you for coming uh into and sitting on the sofa here at the American Experiment Studios.
• 1:58:10
  SPEAKER_35: Always great to uh talk with you.
• 1:58:11
  SPEAKER_35: Always great.
• 1:58:12
  SPEAKER_35: All right, coming up, Target has a brand new backlash.
• 1:58:15
  SPEAKER_35: So now two boycotts, although apparently one of these boycotts didn't end.
• 1:58:19
  SPEAKER_35: Now there's a boycott over the ridiculous uh Halloween costume that we talked about in detail uh last week on top of the American Federation of Teachers boycott.
• 1:58:30
  SPEAKER_35: So I'll bring you the details of this coming up.
• 1:58:32
  SPEAKER_35: We do have an ICE update as the DFL continues to try to exploit to Operation Metro Surge.
• 1:58:37
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• 1:58:56
  SPEAKER_35: And speaking of the fair, some commentary coming up in just a moment from uh Grace Keating and Catherine Johnson uh with the uh controversy we discussed at length last week regarding uh the lawsuit against the gangs and keeping them from rumble at the Minnesota State Fair here on the John Justice Show.
• 1:59:12
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• 1:59:28
  SPEAKER_40: And there were posts circulating on social media from members of these gangs saying that basically they were going to continue that line of violence at the state fair this year.
• 1:59:36
  SPEAKER_40: And thank God, you know, law enforcement perked their ears up.
• 1:59:40
  SPEAKER_40: And so now officials in Ramsey County are working with the Minnesota Attorneys General's office to look at using a a very, very rarely used law or excuse me, state statute called the Minnesota Civil Gang Nuisance Law to try and prevent that violence from happening.
• 1:59:55
  SPEAKER_40: The law would allow officials to sue gang members and prevent them from associating, intimidating, annoying, provoking, or threatening others in and around the state fairgrounds between August 27th and September 8th, 2026.
• 2:00:09
  SPEAKER_40: So they're asking basically a judge to issue an injunction and allow them to use this statute.
• 2:00:15
  SPEAKER_40: If the injunction is issued, they would have the legal authority to proactively detain gang members listed in the suit who violate certain conditions, such as associating with one another at the fair.
• 2:00:27
  SPEAKER_40: And this is brilliant because otherwise, law enforcement is only able to do something after a crime has taken place.
• 2:00:33
  SPEAKER_40: This is something they could do on the front end to prevent it from ever happening.
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  SPEAKER_49: It's baffling how you can get to the conclusion that no, actually, the more people that are dependent so desperate and in such a hard situation that they need the state government, the more people in that situation is a good thing.
• 2:02:22
  SPEAKER_40: Right.
• 2:02:23
  SPEAKER_40: Well, not only is it ideologically unwise, in my opinion, to be trending that way, but our budget can't handle it.
• 2:02:29
  SPEAKER_40: This is a completely unsustainable path that we are on, even with how much our spending has already grown.
• 2:02:34
  SPEAKER_40: It's still growing on this area of welfare programs.
• 2:02:38
  SPEAKER_40: And that's where you get back to this idea of a ticking time bomb.
• 2:02:40
  SPEAKER_40: Think about it.
• 2:02:41
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• 2:04:49
  SPEAKER_10: Okay, more than Brainerd, please keep sending the middle-aged white guy Ryan out instead of Lisa.
• 2:04:55
  SPEAKER_10: It's funny that she's too big of a coward to show up on your podcast.
• 2:04:59
  SPEAKER_10: Um, I also love how Let me just stop it there.
• 2:05:03
  SPEAKER_35: First off, everything that we talked about, because he gets into, or I'm sorry, she gets into the voice disguised to Eric from Brainerd gets into the billion-dollar number and all that.
• 2:05:13
  SPEAKER_35: Lisa Damath was just on the show like a week and a half ago.
• 2:05:17
  SPEAKER_33: She was sitting right, she was sitting right there.
• 2:05:19
  SPEAKER_33: The videos are of available.
• 2:05:23
  SPEAKER_33: She comes on the show, she's been on the show a couple of different times.
• 2:05:26
  SPEAKER_35: So out of everything that we talk about on the show, and then you go and use the new blaster line, and that's the route you go, you want to hammer Ryan Wilson for the color of his skin and being middle-aged, and then you want to go and say that Lisa Damath is too cowardly to come on the show when she was just here.
• 2:05:45
  SPEAKER_35: Boy, do do better than that.
• 2:05:48
  SPEAKER_35: Eric doing that thing with my fingers.
• 2:05:51
  SPEAKER_35: All right.
• 2:05:52
  SPEAKER_35: 651-964-0294.
• 2:05:54
  SPEAKER_35: Let's go here.
• 2:05:55
  SPEAKER_35: Target cannot catch a break.
• 2:05:57
  SPEAKER_35: I'm wondering how much Target cares.
• 2:06:01
  SPEAKER_35: Minnesota civil rights leaders and co-founders of a national Target boycott movement said their effort has not stopped and called on the public to join them after a new controversy this week involving an offensive Halloween costume available on the Target website.
• 2:06:20
  SPEAKER_35: When I grabbed this story, I thought, I thought, that this was about the American Federation of Teachers and their ridiculous boycott of Target, because Target didn't say or do what specifically the American Federation of Teachers wanted them to say and do regarding immigrations and customs enforcement and Operation Metro Surge.
• 2:06:47
  SPEAKER_35: No, no, no.
• 2:06:48
  SPEAKER_35: This is a completely separate boycott.
• 2:06:51
  SPEAKER_35: Target, of course, the issue's over regarding the Halloween costume, and it wasn't even necessarily Target's fault.
• 2:06:58
  SPEAKER_35: Target issued an apology, pulled the item, which depicted a black child modeling a costume that evoked a racist minstrel caricature and stereotype.
• 2:07:09
  SPEAKER_35: Now, enough time has gone by where somebody combing through the archives of American history found a photograph wherein an individual dressed like a racist minstrel happened to be in a similar position as what was clearly just a child's clown costume.
• 2:07:34
  SPEAKER_35: The only reason why there was any controversy at all was because the child in the photograph was black wearing the costume.
• 2:07:41
  SPEAKER_35: If that had been a white child, nobody would have cared.
• 2:07:46
  SPEAKER_35: But of course, when it comes to your local hacktivists desperate to gain attention, desperate to grow their ranks and maintain what little power they grasp onto, this is the perfect opportunity for them to go and do so, even though the issue is completely over.
• 2:08:07
  SPEAKER_35: There was a smattering of controversy surrounding the costume.
• 2:08:11
  SPEAKER_35: Target immediately pulled it.
• 2:08:14
  SPEAKER_35: I don't even know if there's any evidence that it was even purchased.
• 2:08:17
  SPEAKER_35: Certainly not placed inside of any Target stores.
• 2:08:24
  SPEAKER_35: And yet here they are attempting to go and make something out of nothing.
• 2:08:30
  SPEAKER_35: We are not satisfied with an apology.
• 2:08:32
  SPEAKER_35: That's not very Christ-like behavior.
• 2:08:34
  SPEAKER_35: This is according to civil rights attorney, National Target boycott co-founder Nakima Levy Armstrong at a news conference.
• 2:08:42
  SPEAKER_35: An apology doesn't answer the question of how did this happen in the first place?
• 2:08:46
  SPEAKER_35: Who reviewed this costume?
• 2:08:47
  SPEAKER_35: Who approved it?
• 2:08:48
  SPEAKER_35: Who marketed it?
• 2:08:49
  SPEAKER_35: Who had the opportunity to stop it?
• 2:08:51
  SPEAKER_35: And who was in the room when those decisions were made?
• 2:08:54
  SPEAKER_35: Because this wasn't one person's mistake.
• 2:08:57
  SPEAKER_35: A product had to move through the corporate process before it reached a target's website.
• 2:09:01
  SPEAKER_35: And guess what?
• 2:09:02
  SPEAKER_35: Nobody stopped it.
• 2:09:03
  SPEAKER_35: Black people had to stop it from the outside.
• 2:09:07
  SPEAKER_35: Or maybe the costume was being identified as what it was, just a Halloween-themed clown costume.
• 2:09:17
  SPEAKER_35: And nobody was looking at this from an angle because most people don't see the reference to anything relating to the Jim Crow era.
• 2:09:28
  SPEAKER_35: And this is the perfect example of when I've talked about so many times on the show about how unproductive boycot typically are.
• 2:09:38
  SPEAKER_35: If Nakema Levy Armstrong really cared about this issue, really cared about racism, was really concerned about the impact that this costume could have on society, she wouldn't say anything at all.
• 2:09:52
  SPEAKER_35: Why bring further attention to it?
• 2:09:55
  SPEAKER_35: If you really care about the issue of race relations and specifically potentially offensive costumes, I would think your goal would be that the fewest people possible seeing this would be your goal.
• 2:10:10
  SPEAKER_35: I would think that you would not want it to have individuals be triggered by the offensive costume.
• 2:10:17
  SPEAKER_35: And therefore, your best bet would be target removed it.
• 2:10:20
  SPEAKER_35: It's not being sold in stores.
• 2:10:22
  SPEAKER_35: None of them were sold.
• 2:10:23
  SPEAKER_35: The story was over to the point when I saw the headline, we're not satisfied with an apology.
• 2:10:29
  SPEAKER_35: Minnesota civil rights leaders pledged to continue to target boycott.
• 2:10:33
  SPEAKER_35: I thought they were talking about ice.
• 2:10:35
  SPEAKER_35: That's how much the issue was over.
• 2:10:37
  SPEAKER_35: I wasn't even planning on discussing it on the show anymore because there was no need to.
• 2:10:41
  SPEAKER_35: The controversy was done.
• 2:10:44
  SPEAKER_35: But they don't care about racism.
• 2:10:48
  SPEAKER_35: They want to exploit it.
• 2:10:49
  SPEAKER_35: They want to perpetuate it.
• 2:10:51
  SPEAKER_35: They want as many people to see this costume as humanly possible because they're just power hungry.
• 2:10:59
  SPEAKER_35: This is their gig.
• 2:11:01
  SPEAKER_35: This is their job.
• 2:11:02
  SPEAKER_35: This is how Nakima Levy Armstrong makes a living by irrationally continuing to perpetuate controversies of which they were not involved in at all.
• 2:11:13
  SPEAKER_35: Armstrong, the founder of Racial Justice Network, alongside the Council on American Islamic Relations, Black Lives Matter in Minnesota, and other local organizations, initially launched a boycott in early 2025 after Target pulled back on its diversity, equity, and inclusion programs following the inauguration of President Donald Trump.
• 2:11:33
  SPEAKER_35: And just like the American Teachers Federation regarding their ridiculous controversies surrounding Target not denouncing ICE the way that they want, what do you guys care?
• 2:11:43
  SPEAKER_35: They're not targeting any other groups out there that also dropped their DEI programs, that also didn't make public statements condemning ICE operations.
• 2:11:53
  SPEAKER_35: No, they're selectively targeting Target because it's a Minnesota based company, they know that they'll garnish.
• 2:12:00
  SPEAKER_35: The most headlines, they know that I'll talk about it here on the show, all in hopes that again they can continue to perpetuate their power, grow their power, and certainly retain that power.
• 2:12:12
  SPEAKER_14: These activists are just annoying now.
• 2:12:14
  SPEAKER_14: Nobody cares if they're colored right.
• 2:12:17
  SPEAKER_14: Why don't these people go start their own businesses and run it all perfectly and get the frick out of our faces?
• 2:12:25
  SPEAKER_35: Because as I mentioned, you're right, but to but but because I as I mentioned, this is their job.
• 2:12:31
  SPEAKER_35: This is how they make a living.
• 2:12:34
  SPEAKER_35: This is what they do for a living.
• 2:12:35
  SPEAKER_35: So it's very disingenuous because of that.
• 2:12:40
  SPEAKER_35: Now, uh cared Minnesota director uh Jelani Hussein said, Target chose to sell itself as a leader, not a follower.
• 2:12:50
  SPEAKER_35: Not among the bunch as a leader in DEI, which is why it was not only hurtful to so many of us, it was even puzzling that the leader would be so willing to give up.
• 2:13:01
  SPEAKER_35: Were you working at Target?
• 2:13:04
  SPEAKER_35: Was there anybody in your organization that was working at Target?
• 2:13:07
  SPEAKER_35: What and if you were working at Target, why can't you just continue to adhere to your own DEI beliefs?
• 2:13:14
  SPEAKER_35: Why do you need Target to conform to something that you believe in?
• 2:13:22
  SPEAKER_35: The groups, by the way, attached to with Nakema Levy Armstrong, um, have also uh called out the Minnesota-based retailer for donating to Trump's inauguration, rolling back post George Floyd pledges to black communities.
• 2:13:37
  SPEAKER_35: I don't know what that means, and allowing federal immigration agents to operate in and around its stores during Operation Metro Search.
• 2:13:44
  SPEAKER_35: So they're gonna grab onto the American Federation of uh of teachers as well.
• 2:13:49
  SPEAKER_35: Levy Armstrong said the boycott never ended.
• 2:13:52
  SPEAKER_35: It's ongoing, it's indefinite.
• 2:13:53
  SPEAKER_35: As I said before, for so many of us, it's permanent.
• 2:13:56
  SPEAKER_35: By the way, so she mentions in here, uh, let's see, the apology doesn't answer the question.
• 2:14:01
  SPEAKER_35: How did this happen in the first place?
• 2:14:02
  SPEAKER_35: Who reviewed it, who approved it, who marketed it, who had the opportunity to stop it, and who was in the room when those decisions were made.
• 2:14:08
  SPEAKER_35: Let's say you find out all that information, then what are you gonna do, Nakema?
• 2:14:12
  SPEAKER_35: Then what's your plan?
• 2:14:14
  SPEAKER_35: You're gonna send, you know, you're gonna send the protesters out to the homes of the individuals who ended up being attached to all these various questions that you have.
• 2:14:22
  SPEAKER_35: No, she doesn't care.
• 2:14:23
  SPEAKER_35: She doesn't care who those individuals are, she doesn't care how it happens.
• 2:14:27
  SPEAKER_35: She knows there's not gonna be the answers to it.
• 2:14:29
  SPEAKER_35: It is simply just filling in the gaps because the argument is so flimsy that they need to add as many elements as possible to make it sound as legitimate as they possibly can.
• 2:14:41
  SPEAKER_35: Let's hear from a lawyer friend of the show.
• 2:14:43
  SPEAKER_22: Hey John, this is James Dickey.
• 2:14:45
  SPEAKER_22: So Nikima Lizy Armstrong, and it rings a bell because if memory serves me, she was one of the people who busted into the city's church back in January and interrupted the rite of worship of all those families, parents, and children who were worshiping in their church on a Sunday morning, just because one of the people at the church allegedly was involved in Operation Metro Surge.
• 2:15:08
  SPEAKER_22: So a real great attorney there, obviously.
• 2:15:10
  SPEAKER_22: Uh someone who has somehow found a way to continue practicing law without uh any bar complaints that I'm aware of.
• 2:15:17
  SPEAKER_22: Pretty unbelievable.
• 2:15:19
  SPEAKER_35: In a statement to Care 11, Target reiterated its apology for the Halloween costume and pledged to examine how it happened.
• 2:15:26
  SPEAKER_35: They said, as a company, we know we got this wrong.
• 2:15:29
  SPEAKER_35: We're deeply sorry.
• 2:15:30
  SPEAKER_35: The costume is offensive and should have never been part of our assortment.
• 2:15:33
  SPEAKER_35: It's no longer available for sale.
• 2:15:35
  SPEAKER_35: We know this is especially hurtful for black guests, team members, and partners.
• 2:15:40
  SPEAKER_35: Removing the costume is an important first step, and the company is looking closely at how this happened and what needs to change in order to ensure that it doesn't happen again.
• 2:15:49
  SPEAKER_35: I don't, you don't need to change anything.
• 2:15:52
  SPEAKER_35: The process worked.
• 2:15:54
  SPEAKER_35: It was a clown costume.
• 2:15:56
  SPEAKER_35: And as we talked about at length on Friday with our Freedom Friday guests and Catherine Johnson was probably the most vocal about this.
• 2:16:02
  SPEAKER_35: And I agreed, it was an ugly costume to boot.
• 2:16:06
  SPEAKER_35: Why would you go and purchase this for your child?
• 2:16:09
  SPEAKER_35: It doesn't make any sense.
• 2:16:10
  SPEAKER_35: It's a dumb costume.
• 2:16:12
  SPEAKER_35: The only reason why it was controversial was because the child that was featured in the ad wearing the costume was black.
• 2:16:17
  SPEAKER_35: If that child had been white, nobody would have given a rip.
• 2:16:22
  SPEAKER_35: It probably, like I said, it probably wouldn't have sold because it's a dumb costume to begin with.
• 2:16:26
  SPEAKER_35: So to the point, and I understand why Target's making the statement that they that they are.
• 2:16:30
  SPEAKER_35: They have to now.
• 2:16:31
  SPEAKER_35: Not only do they have uh the Minnesota civil rights leaders and idiots like Nikemil Levy Armstrong out there trying to continue to make an issue out of this when it's all over, but on top of that, you have the American Federation of Teachers that have their boycott of Target because they didn't denounce ICE the way that they want to.
• 2:16:51
  SPEAKER_35: So I get it when it comes to Target and their desire to offer up some clarity and to appeal.
• 2:16:56
  SPEAKER_35: They have to do PR on this.
• 2:16:58
  SPEAKER_35: But again, you don't need to change anything.
• 2:16:59
  SPEAKER_35: The process worked just fine.
• 2:17:02
  SPEAKER_35: It went through the process, it got approved and ended up on the website because people weren't looking at it through a lens of Jim Crow or anything racist.
• 2:17:13
  SPEAKER_35: And the majority of individuals aren't even aware of any of that imagery, and it wasn't based on that, in my opinion.
• 2:17:20
  SPEAKER_35: People pointed it out.
• 2:17:22
  SPEAKER_35: Target looked at it and said it's not worth the controversy.
• 2:17:25
  SPEAKER_35: Probably not gonna sell a lot of it anyways.
• 2:17:27
  SPEAKER_35: I don't think it's being sold in the store, so we'll just get rid of it.
• 2:17:29
  SPEAKER_35: Overdone.
• 2:17:31
  SPEAKER_35: But not when it comes to those that need the attention and are gonna go and target corporations like Target because they are the biggest target.
• 2:17:42
  SPEAKER_33: Pretty amazing how many different ways the Target fits into the commentary, then, right?
• 2:17:47
  SPEAKER_35: The blaster line, brand new, 651-964-0294.
• 2:17:51
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• 2:17:54
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• 2:17:57
  SPEAKER_35: As I preview uh some of those, I do want to share with you some audio.
• 2:18:00
  SPEAKER_35: Speaking of the American Federation of Teachers um boycott of Target, uh Randy Weingarten of the American Federation of Teachers, urging people to boycott Target because they haven't condemned the law enforcement.
• 2:18:15
  SPEAKER_35: Uh, here's what she had to say in a post over the weekend.
• 2:18:18
  SPEAKER_43: Target has remained silent as ICE's cruel tactics have terrorized families in Minneapolis, where the company is headquartered and spread across the country.
• 2:18:29
  SPEAKER_43: And in March, we said if Target remained silent, we would shop elsewhere for back to school supplies.
• 2:18:36
  SPEAKER_43: And we have done that.
• 2:18:37
  SPEAKER_43: Go to the campaign website, shopsmart.aft.org, type in your zip code, and get back to school shopping alternatives near your near near you, excuse me, including unionized businesses with comparable prices to Target.
• 2:18:52
  SPEAKER_35: By the way, Crime Watch Minneapolis uh pointed this out.
• 2:18:56
  SPEAKER_35: So Randy Weingarten directs you to a website for school shopping alternatives to Target because they didn't speak out against ICE.
• 2:19:07
  SPEAKER_35: And she lists Costco and Macy's as the alternatives.
• 2:19:12
  SPEAKER_35: As Crime Watch Minneapolis on X pointed out, neither of them spoke out against ICE either.
• 2:19:20
  SPEAKER_35: They didn't have any public condemnation of ICE.
• 2:19:26
  SPEAKER_35: And yet she wants you to go and and and shop with them.
• 2:19:31
  SPEAKER_35: The base group of supporters that would actually go and change their shopping habits because of this ridiculous controversy over Target not denouncing ICE, the same type of individuals that are wearing the yellow protest shirts outside the Minnesota GOP booth, they're not interested in anything other than the agenda.
• 2:19:52
  SPEAKER_35: They're not interested in the truth.
• 2:19:53
  SPEAKER_35: They're not interested in facts.
• 2:19:54
  SPEAKER_35: They're really not even interested in debating.
• 2:19:57
  SPEAKER_35: They don't care.
• 2:19:58
  SPEAKER_35: Their minds aren't going to change.
• 2:19:59
  SPEAKER_35: The Trump derangement syndrome is embedded in them.
• 2:20:04
  SPEAKER_35: And it's nigh impossible to shake it out.
• 2:20:07
  SPEAKER_35: I mentioned at the top of the show there was a foe of the show, and he's met me before.
• 2:20:10
  SPEAKER_35: And he's a really nice guy, completely pleasant conversation, even though we disagree on the on the issues.
• 2:20:16
  SPEAKER_35: Says he still listens every day and he feels he's glad that I was still able to do to broadcast my show because he feels like it's important to free speech, that all sides need to be heard.
• 2:20:26
  SPEAKER_35: So based off of all of that, it was a fine and pleasant conversation.
• 2:20:29
  SPEAKER_35: But this individual was just regurgitating talking points of the left, had no interest whatsoever in my counter-arguments to their claims.
• 2:20:38
  SPEAKER_35: He says, How can you say that Republicans would go and tackle fraud?
• 2:20:43
  SPEAKER_35: Or how can Republicans say that they would go and tackle fraud when you have the most fraudulent uh president in the White House?
• 2:20:52
  SPEAKER_35: And I tried to explain that's two separate issues.
• 2:20:54
  SPEAKER_35: You can believe that Trump is a fraud, but you can still go and look, and the Republicans can still propose worthwhile tangible solutions to fraud here in Minnesota.
• 2:21:03
  SPEAKER_35: The ones whoever Trump is, even if he got impeached and was yanked from office, it doesn't change any of the dynamics of what Republicans want to do via their policies any more than it would Democrats either.
• 2:21:15
  SPEAKER_35: But he wasn't interested in it.
• 2:21:16
  SPEAKER_35: He just defaulted to the to the typical talking points of, well, they'll just cut taxes for the most wealthy.
• 2:21:23
  SPEAKER_35: I was like, I then why are you engaging with the conversation with me if you're not interested in hearing a counter-argument to to your to your claims?
• 2:21:31
  SPEAKER_35: All right, speaking of ice, ice is gonna drop more money on even more new technology.
• 2:21:35
  SPEAKER_35: This is beyond the shot gloves.
• 2:21:37
  SPEAKER_35: This is even cooler.
• 2:21:39
  SPEAKER_35: So I'll share this with you in just a moment.
• 2:21:40
  SPEAKER_35: First off, though, speaking of ice, Tom Holman, border czar, had a lengthy conversation with uh CNN over a host of different issues, including immigrations and customs enforcement.
• 2:21:53
  SPEAKER_35: Here in what I'll share with you here on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
• 2:21:57
  SPEAKER_35: Tom Homan calls out the fake news about making up the stories regarding ICE just to stir a controversy.
• 2:22:04
  SPEAKER_35: Here is how uh Borders Are Tom Homan's exchange went with um Dana Bash on CNN.
• 2:22:10
  SPEAKER_45: Are ICE officers detaining parents at school bus stops?
• 2:22:14
  SPEAKER_47: ICE isn't a business of terrorizing children.
• 2:22:16
  SPEAKER_47: That's that's just that's just political fire.
• 2:22:20
  SPEAKER_47: ICE is out there enforcing law that was enacted by Congress.
• 2:22:24
  SPEAKER_47: Then we arrest illegal aliens, or some parents, I'm sure many are.
• 2:22:28
  SPEAKER_47: But we're not out there to terrorize children.
• 2:22:30
  SPEAKER_47: We're rather to look for illegal aliens with final orders of removal, those who overstay, those are criminals, and we're out there looking for arresting them.
• 2:22:37
  SPEAKER_47: ICE has no intention of terrorizing children.
• 2:22:39
  SPEAKER_47: That is just a political statement made to, you know, to to enrage the American people.
• 2:22:45
  SPEAKER_47: The last two years, I constantly hear the attacks on ICE, what ICE is doing, okay.
• 2:22:50
  SPEAKER_47: I think it's a winning message to, you know, to to uh you know vilify ICE.
• 2:22:54
  SPEAKER_47: And I've said for a long time, all these hateful words against ICE and what ICE does, that's the reason assaults against ICE officers up over 9,000 percent, the threats.
• 2:23:04
  SPEAKER_47: No other law enforcement agency in the world has that percentage of increase in threats.
• 2:23:08
  SPEAKER_47: And I say most of us based on hateful writer and and mischaracterization of what ICE does.
• 2:23:13
  SPEAKER_47: Just like the Delaney Hall, right?
• 2:23:15
  SPEAKER_47: Delaney Hall is a big story.
• 2:23:16
  SPEAKER_47: Everybody's protesting up in Newark and Delaney Hall.
• 2:23:19
  SPEAKER_47: So there's a hunger strike.
• 2:23:20
  SPEAKER_47: I went there.
• 2:23:21
  SPEAKER_47: There was never a hunger strike.
• 2:23:23
  SPEAKER_47: People weren't eating at the cafeteria but they're eating in the commissary.
• 2:23:26
  SPEAKER_47: And no one was missing medication.
• 2:23:28
  SPEAKER_47: They said one person, one father was arrested while buying diapers.
• 2:23:33
  SPEAKER_47: No, he was arrested out of jail and he was there for domestic violence charges.
• 2:23:37
  SPEAKER_47: But all these false stories come out and people buy off on them.
• 2:23:40
  SPEAKER_47: But you notice when we prove those stories are fake, no one ever covers that.
• 2:23:44
  SPEAKER_47: No one ever says, okay, we were wrong.
• 2:23:46
  SPEAKER_47: There actually wasn't a hunger strike.
• 2:23:48
  SPEAKER_47: There wasn't actually mistreatment at facility.
• 2:23:50
  SPEAKER_45: Yeah, well, that's literally why we we have you on, and we appreciate you coming on.
• 2:23:55
  SPEAKER_35: So wait, what wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 2:23:58
  SPEAKER_35: So I think it's Donna.
• 2:23:59
  SPEAKER_35: Is it Dana?
• 2:24:00
  SPEAKER_35: I always think I say it wrong.
• 2:24:01
  SPEAKER_35: I think it's supposed to be Dana, but I think she pronounces it Dana.
• 2:24:04
  SPEAKER_35: I think it's Dana.
• 2:24:06
  SPEAKER_35: Devin.
• 2:24:07
  SPEAKER_35: Anyway, I like the in there.
• 2:24:09
  SPEAKER_35: This is why we have you on.
• 2:24:11
  SPEAKER_35: So that Tom Holman can completely correct you and smack down the fake news and the fact that outlets like CNN are perpetuating lies constantly.
• 2:24:19
  SPEAKER_35: Yeah, so I guess maybe, you know, thank thank you so much for showing us the error of our ways.
• 2:24:24
  SPEAKER_35: I don't think she realized that's how it came off.
• 2:24:27
  SPEAKER_35: It's how it came off, in my view.
• 2:24:29
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• 2:25:07
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• 2:25:08
  SPEAKER_35: All right, coming up in just a moment.
• 2:25:10
  SPEAKER_35: Ice to spend two million dollars on strange new kind of technology.
• 2:25:16
  SPEAKER_35: I cannot wait to see the videos of this new technology in action.
• 2:25:21
  SPEAKER_35: I'll share with you what it is in just a moment here on the show.
• 2:25:24
  SPEAKER_35: First off, though, listen, stop with all the yo-yo dieting.
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• 2:25:40
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• 2:27:02
  SPEAKER_52: If something sounds too good to be true, it usually is.
• 2:27:06
  SPEAKER_52: We've heard over and over that wind and solar are the clean and green solution to our energy.
• 2:27:12
  SPEAKER_52: Power without the downsides of fossil fuels.
• 2:27:15
  SPEAKER_52: It sounds great on the surface, but is it true?
• 2:27:18
  SPEAKER_52: Let's take a closer look.
• 2:27:20
  SPEAKER_52: Every form of energy impacts the environment.
• 2:27:23
  SPEAKER_52: Wind and solar are no exception.
• 2:27:25
  SPEAKER_52: The only difference, you've probably never been told about their downsides.
• 2:27:29
  SPEAKER_52: Wind and solar are both low-power energy sources.
• 2:27:32
  SPEAKER_52: They require exponentially more wind and solar to produce the same amount of power as nuclear natural gas.
• 2:27:51
  SPEAKER_52: Wind use load is environmentally devastating.
• 2:27:54
  SPEAKER_52: One gigawatt nuclear plant takes about 1.3 square miles.
• 2:27:59
  SPEAKER_52: Four up to 75 square miles.
• 2:28:11
  SPEAKER_52: Then there's the materials.
• 2:28:13
  SPEAKER_52: Meeting global necro targets would require massive amounts of energy.
• 2:28:18
  SPEAKER_52: Far more than the world currently produces.
• 2:28:20
  SPEAKER_52: This means opening new mines, often countries with weak environmental standards, dangerous working conditions, and even high labor.
• 2:28:29
  SPEAKER_52: The impact on wildlife locality, also wind destruction ecosystem.
• 2:28:35
  SPEAKER_52: Wales, for example, which rely on echo location, suffer from hearing impairment and disturbing migration facts.
• 2:28:43
  SPEAKER_52: Turbine killed burning packets and solar farms destroyed.
• 2:28:49
  SPEAKER_52: Nuclear natural gas plants can last 60 to 80 years.
• 2:28:53
  SPEAKER_52: Turbine and solar panels is 20 to 25.
• 2:28:57
  SPEAKER_52: Also not easily recycling.
• 2:28:59
  SPEAKER_52: So multiply the sheer number of units we need with a short lifespan.
• 2:29:04
  SPEAKER_52: And you have millions of tons of material waste heading from landfills.
• 2:29:08
  SPEAKER_52: The truth is, wind and solar aren't the magical solution we've been covered.
• 2:29:13
  SPEAKER_52: Surreal trade-offs significantly, low power, and material needs, extensive land use in the ecosystem energy.
• 2:29:22
  SPEAKER_52: Wind and solar energy production literally do more environmental harm than good.
• 2:29:28
  SPEAKER_52: Like we said, if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
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• 2:29:41
  SPEAKER_35: From the Daily Wire here on the John Justice Show, presented by American Experiment, U.S.
• 2:29:46
  SPEAKER_35: Immigrations and Customs Enforcement is preparing to spend up to two million dollars on robotic dogs.
• 2:29:56
  SPEAKER_33: They don't bark, as far as I know.
• 2:29:59
  SPEAKER_35: I imagine you could probably add that function in pretty easily.
• 2:30:03
  SPEAKER_35: As the agency continues expanding its use of technology during Trump's mass deportation campaign, um, which continues.
• 2:30:10
  SPEAKER_35: Bill Glon has a piece up at I believe it's Bill, one of our policy fellows here at American Experiment and AmericanExperiment.org, um, has a piece up talking about how there is a um there is a a quiet ice surge taking place.
• 2:30:29
  SPEAKER_35: And we've been talking about it for the past few weeks on the on the show.
• 2:30:34
  SPEAKER_35: And that's because you don't have the Democrat leadership out there encouraging individuals.
• 2:30:39
  SPEAKER_35: You don't have the protest groups out there encouraging individuals, you don't have the paid organizations out there encouraging individuals to go and get in the way of lawful ICE law enforcement.
• 2:30:51
  SPEAKER_35: And so deportations are increasing, and yet there's no controversy, just like we said, would have happened here in Minnesota if it hadn't been for a bunch of idiots that took to the streets to go and block the operations of immigrations and customs enforcement.
• 2:31:05
  SPEAKER_35: So now the Department of Homeland Security posted on Thursday that ICE could spend between one million and two million dollars on Boston Dynamics Spot, doing nothing with my fingers.
• 2:31:17
  SPEAKER_35: That's its name.
• 2:31:18
  SPEAKER_35: Spot robotic dogs and related accessories.
• 2:31:22
  SPEAKER_35: You've probably seen these online.
• 2:31:24
  SPEAKER_35: They've been used in a bunch.
• 2:31:26
  SPEAKER_35: They basically they they they walk around like like dogs, but they look like headless dogs.
• 2:31:32
  SPEAKER_35: They're really freaky.
• 2:31:34
  SPEAKER_35: Pretty intimidating, too.
• 2:31:35
  SPEAKER_35: I know they're saying that they may not be used in actual operations in terms of pushing back protesters and more just to be able to get into areas that ICE agents potentially can't, but it's still kind of terrifying.
• 2:31:48
  SPEAKER_35: They should paint them up.
• 2:31:49
  SPEAKER_35: They should do the logos on there and make them look like the ICE officers just to make people mad.
• 2:31:53
  SPEAKER_35: Make them look as scary as possible.
• 2:31:54
  SPEAKER_35: The planned purchase comes just weeks after DHS approved a 20 million for ICE to acquire new elect uh electric shock gloves that agents could use to subdue combative sub uh suspects during immigration enforcement operations.
• 2:32:07
  SPEAKER_35: A senior DHS official told NBC News that the robots will not be used to make arrests instead.
• 2:32:14
  SPEAKER_35: ICE's procurement notice says the machines are intended to provide agents with a remotely operated capability for inspection, situational awareness, and hazard assessment in areas that could pose risks to uh personnel.
• 2:32:30
  SPEAKER_35: So they should put like the shock gloves on.
• 2:32:33
  SPEAKER_35: They should add like extra appendages to the to the robot dogs for Boston Dynamics and then put the shock gloves on them.
• 2:32:41
  SPEAKER_35: Then they can have the can have the can have the robot dogs go and shock people.
• 2:32:46
  SPEAKER_35: My apologies if you're watching on the stream and saw my hand placement.
• 2:32:50
  SPEAKER_35: If you weren't listening to the audio, that probably was very confusing.
• 2:32:54
  SPEAKER_35: The robotic dog has already been adopted uh in other law enforcement agencies.
• 2:32:59
  SPEAKER_35: Police departments in LA and New York have used technology for various operations.
• 2:33:02
  SPEAKER_35: The U.S.
• 2:33:03
  SPEAKER_35: Secret Service deployed spot robots to help secure President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence in Florida in 2024.
• 2:33:10
  SPEAKER_35: Yeah, I actually I remember the story surrounding that.
• 2:33:12
  SPEAKER_35: Boston Dynamics says its robots are not designed to be weapons.
• 2:33:16
  SPEAKER_35: The company's uh ethics policy states that it will not authorize or partner with customers is seeking to use its robots as weapons or autonomous targeting uh systems for now.
• 2:33:29
  SPEAKER_35: Do they have the three laws?
• 2:33:32
  SPEAKER_35: The increased uh tech spending corresponds with a sharp increase in violence against the ICE agents during the Trump administration's uh deportation uh push.
• 2:33:41
  SPEAKER_35: The procurement document does not establish a firm timeline for deployment, and the government's market research process does not necessarily guarantee that ICE will ultimately purchase their robots.
• 2:33:51
  SPEAKER_35: But if the purchase does move forward, ICE agents could soon have a growing arsenal of specialized technology designed to help them.
• 2:34:00
  SPEAKER_35: Assess dangerous uh situations to protect themselves and carry out the Trump administration's immigration enforcement um agenda.
• 2:34:11
  SPEAKER_35: So be on the lookout for canine dogs.
• 2:34:16
  SPEAKER_35: Don't bring them here to Minnesota.
• 2:34:18
  SPEAKER_35: Antiphil will just go and mess with them.
• 2:34:22
  SPEAKER_35: Just saying.
• 2:34:23
  SPEAKER_35: Do not bring them to Minnesota.
• 2:34:25
  SPEAKER_35: I do not want to see that happen.
• 2:34:26
  SPEAKER_35: All right.
• 2:34:28
  SPEAKER_35: Let's go here.
• 2:34:29
  SPEAKER_35: Meant to cover this on Friday show.
• 2:34:31
  SPEAKER_35: Didn't get a chance to get to it, but the Minneapolis City Council has passed an ordinance that requires establishments that serve alcohol and has a dress code to post that dress code on their front door.
• 2:34:42
  SPEAKER_35: That's going to solve all the problems of discrimination right there.
• 2:34:46
  SPEAKER_35: That'll that'll that'll that'll take care of it or something.
• 2:34:51
  SPEAKER_35: Under the new rule, any establishment that sells liquor and has a dress code must post that dress code in a visible spot at or near the entrance during the hours of operation.
• 2:35:01
  SPEAKER_35: Establishments without a dress code are not affected.
• 2:35:05
  SPEAKER_35: You know, why wouldn't you just post your dress code?
• 2:35:08
  SPEAKER_35: Is our dress code is whatever we believe is acceptable on any given business day.
• 2:35:14
  SPEAKER_35: That should be your dress code.
• 2:35:17
  SPEAKER_35: Our dress code is whatever we determine at that moment in time, to what our dress code is.
• 2:35:24
  SPEAKER_35: The policy they say was developed to address what's known as velvet rope discrimination.
• 2:35:30
  SPEAKER_35: That's when a venue uses a dress code to cover uh as cover to turn away patrons based on race, gender, identity, or protected characteristics.
• 2:35:40
  SPEAKER_35: Those are all assumptions, by the way.
• 2:35:42
  SPEAKER_35: It's all an excuse.
• 2:35:44
  SPEAKER_35: Those are the claims that individuals make when they're not wearing appropriate clothing to go to a particular establishment.
• 2:35:55
  SPEAKER_35: Whether they're doing it because it's truly what they believe, whether they're doing it because they know that they will bring about the sympathy that they're looking for.
• 2:36:05
  SPEAKER_35: But this is what the younger generations have been indoctrinated into via our education system.
• 2:36:12
  SPEAKER_35: And we're going to talk about education this hour.
• 2:36:15
  SPEAKER_35: They've been indoctrinated into believing that it's never their fault.
• 2:36:18
  SPEAKER_35: It's never their fault.
• 2:36:19
  SPEAKER_35: It's not your fault that you're wearing clothes that are not appropriate for this particular club.
• 2:36:25
  SPEAKER_35: No, no, no.
• 2:36:26
  SPEAKER_35: It's it's their fault because they're just basing their views on race.
• 2:36:31
  SPEAKER_35: They're being racist or they're um being homophobic.
• 2:36:38
  SPEAKER_35: The Minneapolis City Council said by passing the ordinance, in doing so, we've taken another step towards uh step forward in building a city where everyone is welcome.
• 2:36:48
  SPEAKER_35: This is according to Jason Chavez in a statement.
• 2:36:50
  SPEAKER_35: This policy matters because unposted dress codes give establishments room to arbitrarily enforce standards, often in ways that disproportionately impact by POC and two S LGBTQIA plus patrons.
• 2:37:08
  SPEAKER_35: I am grateful to my council colleagues.
• 2:37:10
  SPEAKER_35: I see he said council, I say council, and community organizations who supported this work.
• 2:37:16
  SPEAKER_35: In a statement, you had uh Peril Warren, who's also a council member, added if your establishment has a dress code posted clearly for the public, if you don't have one, there's nothing to worry about.
• 2:37:28
  SPEAKER_35: It's just that simple.
• 2:37:30
  SPEAKER_35: The end.
• 2:37:32
  SPEAKER_35: As I said before during the initial conversation surrounding this stupid ordinance, it doesn't change anything.
• 2:37:39
  SPEAKER_35: It doesn't.
• 2:37:42
  SPEAKER_35: If anything, you're providing cover for the establishment, I suppose, because now the establishment is clear in terms of their rules, which are still going to discriminate against the very people that they say they're fighting for.
• 2:37:52
  SPEAKER_35: Like if they if the city council really cared about discrimination and making sure that those disproportionately impacted were not disproportionately uh impacted, they wouldn't move forward on this.
• 2:38:04
  SPEAKER_35: They would allow the lawsuits to occur.
• 2:38:07
  SPEAKER_35: They would allow those examples to pile up regarding just how racist or homophobic the particular businesses are being towards individuals.
• 2:38:20
  SPEAKER_35: This actually does in some way give a bit of cover for the establishments.
• 2:38:27
  SPEAKER_35: And like I mentioned, I think the establishment should just say our dress code is whatever we believe is acceptable at the time when you uh end up in front of our door.
• 2:38:37
  SPEAKER_35: And personally, I think that establishments should be able to arbitrarily enforce any standards that they want.
• 2:38:42
  SPEAKER_35: That's their right to do so, in my opinion, based off of their decision to go and open up a business and determine how they want to run it.
• 2:38:51
  SPEAKER_35: The discussion comes after a 2018 incident.
• 2:38:54
  SPEAKER_35: So, one example here.
• 2:38:56
  SPEAKER_35: At the last call bar in downtown Minneapolis, where a black man was apparently denied entry because the bouncer said his jeans were too baggy and violated the dress code.
• 2:39:06
  SPEAKER_35: Mohammed Moe, middle name, Osman, who was denied entry, says, I felt degraded.
• 2:39:11
  SPEAKER_35: I felt humiliated.
• 2:39:12
  SPEAKER_35: I felt embarrassed.
• 2:39:16
  SPEAKER_35: City leaders have said the ordinance is meant to ensure everybody has the opportunity to enjoy Minneapolis uh nightlife without facing unfair barriers.
• 2:39:26
  SPEAKER_35: You know, this is pretty simple, by the way.
• 2:39:28
  SPEAKER_35: If you want to go to that establishment, just go and change your pants.
• 2:39:31
  SPEAKER_33: Just don't wear jeans that are too baggy.
• 2:39:34
  SPEAKER_35: This doesn't seem like it's hard.
• 2:39:37
  SPEAKER_35: The ordinance now goes to Minneapolis Man Baby Mayor, Mom Jeans, uh Jacob Fry.
• 2:39:41
  SPEAKER_35: So based on the title alone, you know, Mom Jeans, he knows what he's what he's talking about.
• 2:39:47
  SPEAKER_35: The new blaster line, 651-964-0294, where you can go and uh leave us both a uh text and a voice message via the uh the blaster line.
• 2:39:59
  SPEAKER_35: Uh let's see, we got a comment that uh came in.
• 2:40:03
  SPEAKER_35: No, not robots.
• 2:40:04
  SPEAKER_35: Better to use blue dye in water cannons, turn protesters into smurfs for a few weeks.
• 2:40:09
  SPEAKER_35: If the protester has a job, imagine that.
• 2:40:11
  SPEAKER_35: Having to explain why they can't come in for weeks on end.
• 2:40:14
  SPEAKER_35: Okay, so he wants the robot dogs to be armed with squirt guns carrying blue dye.
• 2:40:20
  unknown: Okay.
• 2:40:21
  SPEAKER_35: Boy, Boston Dynamics is gonna be the target of uh of a lot of protests in the near future.
• 2:40:27
  SPEAKER_35: I can only imagine.
• 2:40:28
  SPEAKER_35: All right, before we turn our attention over to education, let me go here.
• 2:40:32
  SPEAKER_35: We had um Ryan Wilson on, Lieutenant Governor candidate on Lisa Damas campaign uh in uh the second half of last hour.
• 2:40:39
  SPEAKER_35: If you missed that conversation, be sure to check out the podcast once the show is over.
• 2:40:43
  SPEAKER_35: That'll be available up on the uh Mix LR app and across all the uh podcast uh platforms.
• 2:40:49
  SPEAKER_35: Uh, I wanted to share with you a couple of comments.
• 2:40:52
  SPEAKER_35: I found these on X.
• 2:40:54
  SPEAKER_35: This is an account at Jamie, and then the number's 99 at Jamie99 underscore Jamie, Miss Jamie Lynn.
• 2:41:03
  SPEAKER_35: Um, focusing on Amy Klobuchar and her comments that took place a couple of weeks ago at FarmFest.
• 2:41:10
  SPEAKER_35: In the first post, uh, she says, Amy Klobuchar wants Minnesotans outraged about the horror show farmers are supposedly living through.
• 2:41:22
  SPEAKER_35: Here's something I would hope every Minnesotan knows.
• 2:41:26
  SPEAKER_35: So let me stop here.
• 2:41:28
  SPEAKER_35: So, first off, let me pay for play for you the uh the first clip of um Amy Klobuchar.
• 2:41:33
  SPEAKER_35: And uh Miss Jamie Lynn on X had included these clips in her post.
• 2:41:38
  SPEAKER_35: So I share them with you now.
• 2:41:40
  SPEAKER_35: Okay.
• 2:41:41
  SPEAKER_35: Something that she would hope everybody knows about Amy Klobichar.
• 2:41:44
  SPEAKER_35: Here's the comments from Clobuchar first, and then I'll share with you what Miss Lamy, uh what Miss Jamie Lynn had to say.
• 2:41:50
  SPEAKER_01: Help us understand what impact Trump's trade war with Canada is going to have on the people of Minnesota.
• 2:41:56
  SPEAKER_01: How are the people you're running to represent, you represent now, going to experience this firsthand?
• 2:42:03
  SPEAKER_46: Jen, I can't tell you how devastating this is, particularly on our farmers and ranchers.
• 2:42:08
  SPEAKER_46: So Minnesota is fourth in the country for ag exports, and all of our exports, including ag, are now 13% down.
• 2:42:17
  SPEAKER_46: It's like$3.4 billion.
• 2:42:20
  SPEAKER_46: And this is a big problem because, especially having just finished a 1920 tour in rural Minnesota, one farmer called me and said to me a few months ago it's like the perfect form of leave.
• 2:42:33
  SPEAKER_46: Because sports markets are devastating.
• 2:42:36
  SPEAKER_46: Because, of course, they come up with retaletary terrorists.
• 2:42:40
  SPEAKER_46: And then for different things like that, not just from the terrorists, but the culture of the streets of Human are also hit.
• 2:42:49
  SPEAKER_46: So he basically has created this just horror show in terms of the Midwestern states and those bordering Canada.
• 2:42:58
  SPEAKER_46: For us, Canada eclipses our trade with Canada are number two, three, and four combined.
• 2:43:04
  SPEAKER_46: So when you look at these states I'm listening to you talking about Senate government races like Iowa, like Michigan, like Wisconsin, and all the way across the northern tier, it's not just farming, it's also small businesses.
• 2:43:20
  SPEAKER_46: $1,700 a year for the average family in America just last year, and it's even gonna go up more if he continues this.
• 2:43:28
  SPEAKER_46: So he just keeps going, and the people now understand what's happening, and it is a major contributor to why costs are up so high.
• 2:43:37
  SPEAKER_35: So that was uh a gubernatorial candidate, uh Amy Klobuchar, talking uh with uh CNN.
• 2:43:43
  SPEAKER_35: This is what Miss Jamie Lynn wrote on X attached to this clip.
• 2:43:46
  SPEAKER_35: Amy Klobuchar is the ranking member of the Senate Agriculture Committee.
• 2:43:52
  SPEAKER_35: And this dovetails off of a couple of different articles written by policy fellow John Phelan here at American Experiment that you can go and check out at AmericanExperiment.org.
• 2:44:02
  SPEAKER_35: This is what Jamie Lynn went on to say.
• 2:44:04
  SPEAKER_35: I'm a Minnesota farmer, so let's cut through the campaign BS.
• 2:44:07
  SPEAKER_35: She says we're being devastated by trade.
• 2:44:10
  SPEAKER_35: She says we're losing markets.
• 2:44:11
  SPEAKER_35: She says fertilizer and fuel costs are hammering us.
• 2:44:15
  SPEAKER_35: Then where in the hell is the farm bill?
• 2:44:18
  SPEAKER_35: Writes Jamie Lynn.
• 2:44:20
  SPEAKER_35: You're not some helpless spectator standing on the sidelines, Amy.
• 2:44:23
  SPEAKER_35: You're the top Democrat on the Senate AG Committee.
• 2:44:27
  SPEAKER_35: Yet the farm bill is still unfinished while Washington continues to fight over SNAP provisions.
• 2:44:32
  SPEAKER_35: And now Minnesotans are being sold this idea that Amy needs to become governor so that she can stand up to Trump's federal trade policy, she writes.
• 2:44:41
  SPEAKER_35: Think about that for five seconds.
• 2:44:43
  SPEAKER_35: She's already sitting in the United States Senate on the Agriculture Committee in a leadership position with an actual role in the federal agriculture policy.
• 2:44:52
  SPEAKER_35: But apparently the solution is to leave Washington for St.
• 2:44:55
  SPEAKER_35: Paul and then she'll save Minnesota farmers from Washington.
• 2:44:59
  SPEAKER_35: I'm actually farming in Minnesota, writes Jamie Lynn.
• 2:45:02
  SPEAKER_35: I don't need a politician explaining that fertilizer is expensive.
• 2:45:05
  SPEAKER_35: I write the checks.
• 2:45:06
  SPEAKER_35: I don't need a politician explaining that markets matter.
• 2:45:09
  SPEAKER_35: My livelihood depends on them.
• 2:45:11
  SPEAKER_35: Also, us at Minnesota farmers damn sure shouldn't be hauled out as campaign props while the people already holding power in Washington point fingers at somebody else.
• 2:45:23
  SPEAKER_35: Forget about the campaign slogans for a minute, she writes.
• 2:45:28
  SPEAKER_35: Ask what she's accomplished at Amy Klobuchar with the power she already has, because blaming Trump from an interview is easy.
• 2:45:38
  SPEAKER_35: Now there was a second post by Jamie Lynn that I also wanted to share with you.
• 2:45:43
  SPEAKER_35: First off, in this post, she also included this clip from Amy Klobuchar.
• 2:45:48
  SPEAKER_54: Well, as part of a nine-county rural economy tour, Senator Klobuchar made a stop in Martin County today.
• 2:45:53
  SPEAKER_54: Senator visited with Halle Ekstrom, a local cattle producer and farmer near Odin to talk about the current state of the beef industry.
• 2:46:00
  SPEAKER_54: Some of the concerns they discussed include the high price of beef, President Trump's tariff-free imports, and the impact of retaliatory tariffs from Canada.
• 2:46:08
  SPEAKER_54: Senator said it's important to continue support for programs that help beginning farmers break into the industry and to make sure that farmers have the right insurance and support they need.
• 2:47:02
  SPEAKER_35: Cute.
• 2:47:02
  SPEAKER_35: Neither does a farm bill when the ranking member of the Senate AG Committee votes against moving it.
• 2:47:09
  SPEAKER_35: On August 6th, Amy Klobuchar voted no.
• 2:47:13
  SPEAKER_35: The bill died 10 to 11 in committee.
• 2:47:16
  SPEAKER_35: Amy recessed instead of passing it.
• 2:47:19
  SPEAKER_35: Farmers still don't have a five-year bill.
• 2:47:22
  SPEAKER_35: Crop insurance, conservation, livestock programs, all still hanging while you do rural photo ops for a governor's run.
• 2:47:32
  SPEAKER_35: You didn't explain to Haley Ekstrom why you blocked the bill that actually funds the work.
• 2:47:38
  SPEAKER_35: You just posed in front of.
• 2:47:40
  SPEAKER_35: You just smiled for the camera and left.
• 2:47:45
  SPEAKER_35: And as I talked about with commentary getting into John Phelan's piece from last week, especially with some of the cuts that Amy Klobishar uh is proposing that she would have no power but over if she were to become governor here in Minnesota and the taxes that she would cut, again, she doesn't have the ability to go and do that in the role as governor.
• 2:48:05
  SPEAKER_35: But as I mentioned last week for that commentary, I'll apply it here as well.
• 2:48:09
  SPEAKER_35: She's banking on the cover of the mainstream media and the fact that the left has done a fantastic job of convincing their base of supporters that regardless of where you stand on the policy, and even if you're upset, let's just say for the sake of argument that Amy Klobuchar voted against and hasn't moved on a farm bill while she continues to speak as if she cares about the farmers, too many of those on the left do not care.
• 2:48:35
  SPEAKER_35: Because they'll never vote for a Republican or a conservative because they've been told that Republicans and conservatives are evil, even though, as we've talked about on the show, we're increasingly finding out that when it comes to Democrats here in Minnesota, when you actually go and drill down the issues, there's a lot of crossover there that's taking place that the GOP could potentially go and take advantage of.
• 2:48:59
  SPEAKER_35: You know, one thing that we desperately need to do in the country, and it's something that I wish the Trump administration would spend even more focus on.
• 2:49:05
  SPEAKER_35: I wish that Trump would have abolished the Department of Education.
• 2:49:08
  SPEAKER_35: I know he's done some changes there.
• 2:49:10
  SPEAKER_35: And there's been a lot of good changes under this administration.
• 2:49:12
  SPEAKER_35: That being said, more needs to be done.
• 2:49:15
  SPEAKER_35: Because the reason why what I just laid out is actually happening is in large part because of the indoctrination that takes place within our grade schools that now is happening, you know, that used to typically happen just in the university level.
• 2:49:29
  SPEAKER_35: Now it happens within our grade schools as well.
• 2:49:32
  SPEAKER_35: And too many good teachers have left because of how you have the classrooms dominated in this leftist ideology, to the point where I have an editorial that I'll share with you out of the Minnesota Star Tribune.
• 2:49:45
  SPEAKER_35: And when I say share, I mean shred because it needs to be shredded.
• 2:49:49
  SPEAKER_35: Republicans fought indoctrination.
• 2:49:51
  SPEAKER_35: Now they're telling students what to study.
• 2:49:54
  SPEAKER_35: This whole entire piece is predicated on a false premise and definition of what they say freedom actually means.
• 2:50:06
  SPEAKER_35: I'll explain here more in just a moment on the show.
• 2:50:09
  SPEAKER_35: But let me start off here.
• 2:50:10
  SPEAKER_35: Speaking of policy fellows here at American Experiment, Catherine Wigfall has a piece that's available right now at AmericanExperiment.org.
• 2:50:16
  SPEAKER_35: New guidance from the U.S.
• 2:50:18
  SPEAKER_35: Department of Education says schools cannot use a student's race when deciding how to discipline them.
• 2:50:25
  SPEAKER_35: The guidance, a dear colleague letter, doing that thing with my fingers, says that discipline policies must treat students even-handedly and must neither reinforce nor disfavor any student based on their race.
• 2:50:41
  SPEAKER_35: It follows the department's July rulemaking, which removed the disparate impact provisions in the Title IX regulations.
• 2:50:49
  SPEAKER_35: Separate guidance issued under Obama and Biden administrations told schools that even racially neutral discipline rules could violate Title IX if they disproportionately affected students of a particular race.
• 2:51:02
  SPEAKER_35: The Obama administration's guidance was first rescinded in 2018 under the first Trump administration.
• 2:51:08
  SPEAKER_35: Biden had gone and implemented it again.
• 2:51:10
  SPEAKER_35: Now, I saw this when it first came about.
• 2:51:13
  SPEAKER_35: I saw the first sort of iteration of this when I was working in Tucson, Arizona.
• 2:51:17
  SPEAKER_35: TUSD, the Tucson Unified School District, was one of the largest, is one of the largest school districts in all of Arizona.
• 2:51:23
  SPEAKER_35: At that time, Pima County, where in Tucson was located, uh still is, but it was the most blue liberal bastion of all of Arizona.
• 2:51:31
  SPEAKER_35: And of course, Arizona's gone mostly purple because of all the individuals that have fled uh California and their ridiculous over-the-top progressive and Marxist uh policies.
• 2:51:41
  SPEAKER_35: But I remember going back to the early 2000s seeing how the Tucson Unified School District was starting to go and adopt standards wherein they would even out the percentage in terms of race and skin color of the students that were being disciplined.
• 2:52:03
  SPEAKER_35: So let's just say you have a black student and a white student.
• 2:52:07
  SPEAKER_35: They both go and graffiti a wall inside of a school.
• 2:52:13
  SPEAKER_35: Maybe it's exactly the same.
• 2:52:16
  SPEAKER_35: What was happening was because of the percentages of those who were being disciplined didn't align with the leftist views.
• 2:52:25
  SPEAKER_35: They decided that the white child would receive a harsher penalty than the child who came from a minority group.
• 2:52:36
  SPEAKER_35: This is also the same school district where I first learned about critical race theory before it had infected and spread like a cancer across the country and now is actually going to be embedded and is embedded within our own public instruction here in Minnesota.
• 2:52:52
  SPEAKER_35: What this is doing is seeking to remove what I just mentioned.
• 2:52:57
  SPEAKER_35: Because it wasn't commonplace across the country going back to the early 2000s.
• 2:53:01
  SPEAKER_35: The Tucson Unified School District in Arizona was a test bed and from that and ended up, again, spreading across the country like a cancer.
• 2:53:09
  SPEAKER_35: In 2017, the Minnesota Department of Human Rights, MDHR, sent letters to 43 school districts and charter schools alleging racial disparities in discipline rates for black and American Indian students.
• 2:53:22
  SPEAKER_35: The letters warned that those disparities could violate the Minnesota Human Rights Act and called on the districts to take corrective action to avoid a lawsuit.
• 2:53:30
  SPEAKER_35: Most did.
• 2:53:31
  SPEAKER_35: The signed settlement agreements required districts to make a number of changes, including sharply reducing suspensions and providing implicit bias training.
• 2:53:42
  SPEAKER_35: Still time for you to get your uh blaster comments in.
• 2:53:45
  SPEAKER_35: Either text or voicemail to 651-964-0294.
• 2:53:51
  SPEAKER_35: But as my colleague, as Catherine Wigfall writes, as my colleague Catherine Kirsten documents, the MDHR did not address the mounting evidence that race-based uh discipline policies produce disorder and undermine learning.
• 2:54:05
  SPEAKER_35: The policy of grounding school discipline and racial quotas has had disastrous consequences virtually anywhere it's been tried.
• 2:54:13
  SPEAKER_35: It has provoked classroom uh disorder and violence and undermines effective education in cities from Los Angeles to New York City.
• 2:54:22
  SPEAKER_35: Now, contrary to MDHR's claim, the Minnesota Human Rights Act does not confer rights on demographic groups.
• 2:54:30
  SPEAKER_35: Kirsten continues, saying it prohibits discrimination in education against individuals and provides that individual students and their parents can request an investigation if they believe that discrimination has occurred at the school.
• 2:54:45
  SPEAKER_35: The federal courts have addressed this issue before.
• 2:54:47
  SPEAKER_35: The unanimous 97 decision, People Who Care versus Rockford Board of Education, the U.S.
• 2:54:52
  SPEAKER_35: Court of Appeals in the Seventh Circuit rejected a provision that imposed racial constraints on student discipline.
• 2:55:00
  SPEAKER_35: During the 2023 legislative session, Minnesota passed a non-exclusionary discipline law requiring schools to exhaust non-punitive interventions before suspending or expelling a student into kindergarten through third grade.
• 2:55:16
  SPEAKER_35: The Minnesota Department of Education says this policy was informed by research conducted with leaders from 42 districts that had been subject to the MDHR settlement agreements.
• 2:55:27
  SPEAKER_35: The U.S.
• 2:55:28
  SPEAKER_35: Education Department says its new guidelines restore Title IX's requirement that schools discipline students without regard to race.
• 2:55:39
  SPEAKER_35: Minnesota districts using race conscious discipline practices should reevaluate this approach or risk the federal Title IX consequences.
• 2:55:48
  SPEAKER_35: The districts were doing this by the Marxist to communists that run the districts to perpetuate the mentality that we mentioned before that you are not responsible for your actions.
• 2:56:00
  SPEAKER_35: If you're in a group that they believe is a minority underrepresented group, and the Democrats believe that the majority of parents in those particular of those families are going to vote for Democrats, then you are not responsible for your actions.
• 2:56:15
  SPEAKER_35: It's the r it's the systemically racist world around you that is to blame.
• 2:56:20
  SPEAKER_35: Not the action, not your actions.
• 2:56:22
  SPEAKER_35: And what other message would you receive if you were a child from a minority group and yet you and somebody else end up committing some sort of policy, school policy violation along the same lines, but your counterpart ends up receiving a stiffer punishment than you.
• 2:56:44
  SPEAKER_35: That's a detriment to that child as they get older in life.
• 2:56:48
  SPEAKER_35: Because real life, for as much as Democrats have tried to go and implement so much of this and this policy like DEI, the businesses are getting rid of now because it's incredibly costly in order to hire these DEI components to their business operation.
• 2:57:07
  SPEAKER_35: So the Democrats were trying to set up a scenario where these individuals indoctrinated at a young age, when they got later into life, will continue to be catered to.
• 2:57:15
  SPEAKER_35: And thankfully, we're seeing a riding of the ship, if you will, a turning in the right direction regarding these particular uh issues now.
• 2:57:23
  SPEAKER_35: This is a further step towards that.
• 2:57:26
  SPEAKER_35: It also underscores, again, the importance of these upcoming elections because I think you and I uh both know that if Democrats were to gain control, much of what's been done under the Trump administration is probably going to fall by the by the wayside.
• 2:57:40
  SPEAKER_35: All right.
• 2:57:41
  SPEAKER_35: As we uh approach the end of the show, I want to play for you a uh a clip.
• 2:57:45
  SPEAKER_35: It's regarding education.
• 2:57:47
  SPEAKER_35: Um a university president just admitted the obvious when talking with Bill Maher.
• 2:57:54
  SPEAKER_35: Campus after campus, it's a one-party town.
• 2:57:57
  SPEAKER_35: Surveys show something like 77 out of 80 professors are voting Democrat.
• 2:58:04
  SPEAKER_35: Listen to this audio from uh Bill Maher on the Bill Maher Show.
• 2:58:08
  SPEAKER_48: And it happens over and over again that the the where the criticism comes from, indoctrination instead of education is one of them.
• 2:58:16
  SPEAKER_48: Uh lack of perspective, especially on world history, America's place in the world, Western civilization.
• 2:58:23
  SPEAKER_48: I think that's true.
• 2:58:24
  SPEAKER_48: Uh intolerant of other ideas, not being afraid to hear other like conservative voices.
• 2:58:32
  SPEAKER_08: Is that all wrong?
• 2:58:33
  SPEAKER_08: That's why so many of them want to become investment bankers.
• 2:58:36
  SPEAKER_08: They've been convinced by the faculty that socialism is the answer.
• 2:58:39
  SPEAKER_08: And I was told not to try to make a joke, and that proves they were right.
• 2:58:45
  SPEAKER_08: No, no, I mean the most assigned books in America we mean Plato and Machiavelli and and uh Mary Shelley.
• 2:58:57
  SPEAKER_08: Uh there is uh definitely a leftist.
• 2:59:00
  SPEAKER_48: Those ones aren't that controversial.
• 2:59:01
  SPEAKER_08: No.
• 2:59:02
  SPEAKER_08: No, they're not.
• 2:59:02
  SPEAKER_08: But those are the books that most classes teach.
• 2:59:05
  SPEAKER_08: Also Karl Marx.
• 2:59:06
  SPEAKER_08: And Karl Marx.
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  SPEAKER_08: A lot of Karl Marx.
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  SPEAKER_08: And the uh guide to style.
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  SPEAKER_08: Um that's another one.
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  SPEAKER_08: That's uh another joke?
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  SPEAKER_08: No.
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  SPEAKER_08: I'll leave in those to you.
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  SPEAKER_08: No, I I I there is I've been talking for the last ten years about the need to diversify the faculty at colleges and universities.
• 2:59:25
  SPEAKER_08: We have too much of a political monoculture, and we have to work really hard to bring other ideas into the campus.
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  SPEAKER_08: I do think most teachers are not trying to indoctrinate their students, they're trying to get them to think for themselves.
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  SPEAKER_08: But we have a lot of work to do in that regard to make it a more open environment.
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  SPEAKER_08: At Westing, we've tried very hard to bring lots more conservative voices onto campus.
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  SPEAKER_08: We have lectures from uh the uh editors of Christianity today or from former members of uh Republican administrations, and we have a veterans program.
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  SPEAKER_08: But I think we have to be very intentional.
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  SPEAKER_08: I wrote a piece in the Wall Street Journal a decade ago calling for affirmative action program for conservatives on college campus, and everybody hated this op-ed.
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  SPEAKER_08: They thought uh the conservatives thought we just need a meritocracy, and uh liberals thought we we don't like affirmative action connected to conservatism.
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  SPEAKER_08: I think we have a real problem of bias, and we have to correct that.
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  SPEAKER_08: But it'll only get worse if the government tries to correct that for us.
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  SPEAKER_48: Yeah, I agree with that also.
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  SPEAKER_48: But I mean the statistics, when you when they've done surveys on this, and again, I'm not pushing for the Republicans.
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  SPEAKER_48: I'm just saying when one place, no matter what it is, we know it is here in the state of California, when one party, when one point of view controls everything, they are not checked.
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  SPEAKER_48: And that's what's happened on campus.
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  SPEAKER_48: Something like 77 out of 80 professors vote democratic.
• 3:00:43
  SPEAKER_48: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_48: That's a ri that's a ridiculous number.
• 3:00:46
  SPEAKER_48: That is, but how did we get there?
• 3:00:47
  SPEAKER_08: Well, I think one of the reasons you have to uh understand you're in graduate school for eight to ten years.
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  SPEAKER_09: The university is just a uh indication of what the Democrats want for the whole country.
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  SPEAKER_09: A one-party system, no dissent allowed.
• 3:01:04
  SPEAKER_35: Yeah, you're absolutely right.
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  SPEAKER_35: And I'm gonna revisit that clip from Bill Maher's show tomorrow on a Tuesday show.
• 3:01:12
  SPEAKER_35: Um, because I have this article here in front of me that we'll dive into.
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  SPEAKER_35: Um, Republicans fought indoctrination.
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  SPEAKER_35: Now they're telling students what to study.
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  SPEAKER_35: This is written by David M.
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  SPEAKER_35: Perry.
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  SPEAKER_35: It's in the Star Tribune from over the weekend.
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  SPEAKER_35: The conservative attack on higher education in states like Iowa is hard to watch, but it also provides an opportunity for blue states like Minnesota.
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  SPEAKER_35: It's perfectly okay if you're on the left to spend money, require students to learn the critical race theory infected Marxist, um, ideologically driven communist curriculum.
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  SPEAKER_35: But if the right counters with their own requirements, which is what's happening here, then it's an attack.
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  SPEAKER_35: You see, in this piece, it talks about Iowa Republicans passing a law requiring the University of Iowa to create a new Center for Intellectual Freedom, uh, freedom.
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  SPEAKER_35: Students argued that they were uh oppressed by all that diversity, equity, and inclusion, and surely would be clamoring for such freedom.
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  SPEAKER_35: But it's also a requirement now for some students in school to take this particular course.
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  SPEAKER_35: So while it's required to take all the other courses, all the other courses that you and I both know, they may be labeled by the institutions, the professors themselves, as being bipartisan, as lacking bias.
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  SPEAKER_35: You and I both know that they are fully entrenched in progressive ideologies.
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  SPEAKER_35: And the students are forced to take them.
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  SPEAKER_35: So Republicans are just doing the same thing in kind.
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  SPEAKER_35: Okay, fine.
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  SPEAKER_35: If you're gonna force the students to take this Marxist-driven curriculum, then we are gonna force the other side and then make sure that it's required that students are aware of you know, free market capitalism and it not being negative because it's talked negatively constantly.
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  SPEAKER_35: The way that this is framed in the article, though, is that this is the Republicans attacking, forcing students.
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  SPEAKER_35: And they basically try to redefine freedom in this piece.
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  SPEAKER_35: They present their own premise and baseline argument.
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  SPEAKER_35: In this case, he went and took freedom, assigned it its own definition.
• 3:03:20
  SPEAKER_35: When freedom had nothing to do with the specific required curriculum, in this case, it was the freedom to hear all sides, all perspectives.
• 3:03:30
  SPEAKER_35: And as I mentioned, not just the Marxist, commie, socialist leftist views.
• 3:03:35
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