Latest / Mac & Bone Podcast / Mac & Bone Show - Mike Jackson Interview
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I have a feeling this interview is going to be
- 0:02Speaker 1: a hot one when people realize, dang, I miss Mike
- 0:05Speaker 1: Jack on with the boys. I guarantee y'all are going
- 0:07Speaker 1: to listen to this in podcast. If you miss it,
- 0:10Speaker 1: Mike Jackson is a part of a really awesome event
- 0:14Speaker 1: this weekend here in Charlotte. We've got to tell you about,
- 0:17Speaker 1: and you know, we got to see how he's feeling
- 0:19Speaker 1: because fans want to know Mike Jackson of your Carolina
- 0:21Speaker 1: Panthers in studio.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Mike, what's going on, man? How you doing?
- 0:25Speaker 3: I'm doing good, man. Thank y'all for having me.
- 0:27Speaker 1: Appreciate you being here. So, yeah, the obvious question is
- 0:32Speaker 1: how are you feeling? How's the progress coming?
- 0:35Speaker 4: Oh, it's coming good. I feel like I'll be back
- 0:37Speaker 4: probably in the next couple of weeks. So we're getting close.
- 0:41Speaker 4: I'm getting that itch, like. I'm ready to go back
- 0:43Speaker 4: to playing football.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Now, I don't blame you. This week is out, though,
- 0:48Speaker 1: you're saying?
- 0:48Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not playing this week.
- 0:49Speaker 2: But Ravens game is possible?
- 0:51Speaker 3: Yeah, possible.
- 0:52Speaker 2: Okay.
- 0:53Speaker 3: Very nice.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Now we're talking.
- 0:54Speaker 5: Mike, I know you're going to be shocked by this.
- 0:57Speaker 5: Mac and I have been pro athletes before. But how
- 1:00Speaker 5: tough can that be to be out there when things
- 1:03Speaker 5: might not be going well for your team and you
- 1:05Speaker 5: know you could help? How tough is that mentally but
- 1:08Speaker 5: to also stay with it because you will be back
- 1:11Speaker 5: soon to help out?
- 1:12Speaker 4: That's frustrating because you want to be out there with
- 1:15Speaker 4: your guys.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:16Speaker 4: And a lot of people don't know, like, when you
- 1:18Speaker 4: get hurt and you go to IR, now you're on
- 1:20Speaker 4: a completely different schedule.
- 1:21Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:22Speaker 4: So, like, the first couple weeks you're not in means
- 1:25Speaker 4: you're just rehabbing and going home. So it's guys you
- 1:29Speaker 4: might not see for, like, three, four weeks. And y'all
- 1:31Speaker 4: work in the same building, but y'all in and out
- 1:34Speaker 4: at different times. So it's just nice to be back
- 1:36Speaker 4: around the guys and have a chance to– just get
- 1:40Speaker 4: back out there and compete. Cause it's like right now,
- 1:42Speaker 4: like only compete I'm doing is with my son playing
- 1:45Speaker 4: video games. And like, we'd be in the house, like wrestling.
- 1:49Speaker 4: It's like, I hit him one time. I'm like, I
- 1:52Speaker 4: kind of hit you a little too hard right there.
- 1:54Speaker 2: You got all that pent up there.
- 1:56Speaker 3: I'm like, man, you got to understand. Daddy ain't play
- 1:59Speaker 3: football in a little minute.
- 2:02Speaker 5: How old is your son and what's the go-to video
- 2:06Speaker 5: game right now?
- 2:07Speaker 3: He's eight.
- 2:07Speaker 4: So right now we're playing 2K Madden and we play college.
- 2:14Speaker 3: Oh, nice.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Nice. Some good ones there. We're talking with Mike Jackson
- 2:17Speaker 2: in studio.
- 2:19Speaker 1: We're going to tell you all about this awesome holiday
- 2:23Speaker 1: event they've got going on a Thanksgiving drive through giveaway
- 2:26Speaker 1: here in Charlotte on Saturday. I'll tell you all about that.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Have you been because a lot of young guys, man,
- 2:32Speaker 1: with you and JC at the same time, that's that's
- 2:34Speaker 1: that is the killer. A lot of the young guys
- 2:38Speaker 1: just thrown to the wolves, right? Will Lee, the Rook,
- 2:41Speaker 1: Caleb Evans, and now he's on IR with you guys.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Marco Wilson found his way out there. Have you, even
- 2:47Speaker 1: though you're not around as much, have you been texting?
- 2:51Speaker 1: Do you try to give them advice or not really?
- 2:55Speaker 4: The first week I went out, we played Detroit. And
- 3:01Speaker 4: so every year before the year, like in the summertime,
- 3:04Speaker 4: all the top receivers, I have notes on them. So
- 3:07Speaker 4: like I gave Willie my notes and I'm like, bro,
- 3:10Speaker 4: don't ever question if I like you. Don't ever like,
- 3:13Speaker 4: I'm giving you my notes. That took me like hours
- 3:16Speaker 4: to do. So, and it's just like little simple stuff,
- 3:19Speaker 4: like break it down to where it's real easy to like,
- 3:25Speaker 4: to see. So if one of them was just example,
- 3:27Speaker 4: like Amon St. Brown, He moves and runs just like
- 3:31Speaker 4: David Moore on our team.
- 3:33Speaker 3: Interesting.
- 3:34Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like stuff that you wouldn't expect. And, like,
- 3:38Speaker 4: I gave it to him, and when he went out there,
- 3:40Speaker 4: he was just like, bro.
- 3:41Speaker 3: You weren't lying. Like, they moved the exact same.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:44Speaker 4: But people wouldn't think that because they're like, Well, no,
- 3:47Speaker 4: he's this player and he's that.
- 3:49Speaker 2: I would never make an observation. That's a great leadership, too.
- 3:52Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just body type.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Do you, let me, do you, okay, so are your
- 3:58Speaker 1: notes just like as you're watching them in game week
- 4:01Speaker 1: and you just save them?
- 4:02Speaker 2: Or are you like spending off-season time on them? Oh, no,
- 4:05Speaker 2: this is off-season.
- 4:05Speaker 3: Like last year, St.
- 4:06Speaker 4: Brown had 164 targets or 72, one of them.
- 4:12Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:13Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's like I go through and watch all
- 4:15Speaker 3: the targets.
- 4:16Speaker 1: So when you know who you're playing the next year,
- 4:19Speaker 1: you just then.
- 4:20Speaker 3: Yeah, I just go through, watch all of him.
- 4:22Speaker 2: That's awesome.
- 4:23Speaker 4: J-Mo, like everybody. And it's like I try to, so
- 4:27Speaker 4: I watch the notes. I mean, I watch the film,
- 4:29Speaker 4: see how teams is using them. And then when it's
- 4:32Speaker 4: game week, see is that still true.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:35Speaker 4: Because like for, it was one team we were playing
- 4:40Speaker 4: and like he wanted me to give the notes. But
- 4:41Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, I don't want to give you the
- 4:43Speaker 4: notes because I don't know if they still running this.
- 4:45Speaker 4: And I don't want you to be out there banking
- 4:47Speaker 4: on this. And it ain't that. So I was like,
- 4:50Speaker 4: just watch the film and just play what you see
- 4:52Speaker 4: this week. Because it was like they had changed officer coordinators.
- 4:57Speaker 4: So I was like, I'm not even going to set
- 4:58Speaker 4: you up like that.
- 5:00Speaker 2: That's some great behind the scenes.
- 5:02Speaker 3: That's awesome.
- 5:02Speaker 5: When did you start with the notes? Is that in
- 5:04Speaker 5: the league or in college? In the league. So guys,
- 5:10Speaker 5: everybody has favorite moves. Everybody has certain things they like
- 5:14Speaker 5: to do. So It's like, you just take the time,
- 5:16Speaker 5: sit and watch.
- 5:18Speaker 4: Like, you don't know. So I probably started OTAs. I
- 5:24Speaker 4: try to give myself a solid, like, two months. Two,
- 5:28Speaker 4: two and a half months just to watch it because
- 5:30Speaker 4: there's going to be days where I don't feel like
- 5:32Speaker 4: watching film.
- 5:33Speaker 3: That way I don't feel like I have to watch
- 5:35Speaker 3: it today.
- 5:36Speaker 4: Like, just spend a couple, because we talking like, I
- 5:40Speaker 4: think it was Jamar Chase. Dude, I had almost like
- 5:44Speaker 4: 200 targets last year. He was like 192 or something.
- 5:47Speaker 2: That's plenty of film to watch.
- 5:48Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That's a lot to watch.
- 5:51Speaker 2: I'd throw to him 200 times if he was my guy.
- 5:53Speaker 5: When I hear that, that's almost like you're a player
- 5:56Speaker 5: with a coach mentality. You've got a long way to go,
- 6:00Speaker 5: but is that something you have interest in when you're
- 6:02Speaker 5: done playing? Because that feels like a coach mind right there.
- 6:05Speaker 4: I feel like I told my wife that once I'm
- 6:09Speaker 4: done playing, I'll coach high school. I don't want to
- 6:12Speaker 4: coach college and NFL because then it's kind of like
- 6:16Speaker 4: now I'm back into that schedule.
- 6:18Speaker 3: The grind. Yeah, I'm away from my kids.
- 6:22Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense.
- 6:22Speaker 4: I don't want to be into it that much, but
- 6:25Speaker 4: I know I'm going to have that itch.
- 6:26Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Mike Jackson's hanging out with us here in studio of
- 6:29Speaker 1: your Carolina Panthers. Says hopes to be back here in
- 6:32Speaker 1: the next couple weeks. Not this week, but hopefully in
- 6:33Speaker 1: the next couple weeks. That's great news. Bad news, though,
- 6:38Speaker 1: for you guys on defense is Jiro Overo getting fired.
- 6:42Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooley, too, who I know you're real tight with
- 6:45Speaker 1: as well. How did that hit you? I mean, because
- 6:48Speaker 1: for you, I know like Derek Brown said yesterday, it
- 6:51Speaker 1: kills him because it's like I was part of that happening.
- 6:55Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like what could I have done?
- 6:57Speaker 1: For you, it probably hit you like there's nothing I
- 7:00Speaker 1: could have done.
- 7:01Speaker 2: I'm injured. Like I couldn't help him. How did that
- 7:03Speaker 2: hit you?
- 7:03Speaker 4: It hit me because I was just like, Mike, you
- 7:06Speaker 4: don't get hurt. Like, this is honestly the first time
- 7:10Speaker 4: in my life I've ever been actually, like, injured.
- 7:14Speaker 3: You feel me?
- 7:14Speaker 4: So for me, it was kind of like, bro, if
- 7:17Speaker 4: you was out there, not saying it wouldn't happen, but, like,
- 7:20Speaker 4: the chances might have been a little different. So that
- 7:24Speaker 4: and then me and Cooley, like, tight. Like, he didn't
- 7:27Speaker 4: change my game. But at the same time, it's a business.
- 7:31Speaker 4: And I always say, like, I've learned whatever somebody teach you,
- 7:36Speaker 4: absorb it because you're gonna have to use it before
- 7:39Speaker 4: you think you have to use it so all the
- 7:41Speaker 4: little tips on how to watch film how to play
- 7:44Speaker 4: certain receivers like i have to use that now you
- 7:48Speaker 4: feel me because he's not in the building yeah so
- 7:51Speaker 4: it's basically like i feel like everybody you just got
- 7:54Speaker 4: to readjust yourself and like understand like It's messed up,
- 7:58Speaker 4: but we still got to go get the job done.
- 8:00Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 8:01Speaker 5: What's Todd Walsh like? It feels like this guy has
- 8:03Speaker 5: some fire from what we understand.
- 8:05Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a typical D-line coach. That's the best way
- 8:09Speaker 4: to put it, like typical D-line coach. He just wants
- 8:11Speaker 4: you to go out there, play hard, play fast, and
- 8:14Speaker 4: have fun.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Do you have a relationship with D'Angelo Hall? Because were
- 8:18Speaker 1: you here when he– Yeah, I was, yeah.
- 8:19Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
- 8:20Speaker 2: You had some crossover.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Yeah. Is he a guy you're kind of looking forward
- 8:23Speaker 1: to working with? Yeah.
- 8:24Speaker 2: Is he different? He was intense as heck when he played.
- 8:27Speaker 3: Yeah, like D. Hall– first off, it's D.
- 8:30Speaker 5: Hall.
- 8:30Speaker 4: Like, can't even talk about the coach D. Hall without
- 8:34Speaker 4: saying the player he was.
- 8:35Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
- 8:36Speaker 3: Like, dude caught five– what, four picks in a game? Yeah,
- 8:39Speaker 3: he did.
- 8:40Speaker 4: Jay Cutler, like– So for me, it's kind of like
- 8:43Speaker 4: I have, in my mind, a Hall of Famer in
- 8:45Speaker 4: the room. Like, you look at his numbers, he has
- 8:49Speaker 4: a chance to get in. So that's just going to
- 8:52Speaker 4: be dope. And his biggest thing is, like, man, go
- 8:55Speaker 4: out there and have fun. Like, make plays. Like, you know,
- 8:59Speaker 4: you watch a film and you read your keys and
- 9:03Speaker 4: all that. But on Sunday, like, you're the best player
- 9:05Speaker 4: in the world. Like, I even stole his celebration, like
- 9:09Speaker 4: how he run to the end zone and.
- 9:10Speaker 3: Like, look up to the sky.
- 9:11Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 9:12Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely took that one from him.
- 9:14Speaker 2: So you'll be glad to work with him. Even though
- 9:15Speaker 2: you're sad Cooley's gone.
- 9:17Speaker 5: Everybody's taking JC's celebration now, all the college kids. Everybody's
- 9:20Speaker 5: got his– Yeah, I'm.
- 9:21Speaker 2: Like– Everybody's seatbelting.
- 9:22Speaker 4: I said, it's kind of getting watered down now. Like,
- 9:25Speaker 4: you got D-Lon doing it.
- 9:28Speaker 3: Like, I get it.
- 9:29Speaker 4: I've seen, like, you know how– the quarterback will throw
- 9:34Speaker 4: the ball and get tipped at the line of scrimmage. And, like,
- 9:37Speaker 4: a lineman, an offensive lineman, come knock the ball down.
- 9:39Speaker 4: I seen one of them do it.
- 9:40Speaker 2: Oh, that's shame.
- 9:42Speaker 3: That's sad.
- 9:43Speaker 5: JC got worked up earlier this year because he saw
- 9:45Speaker 5: someone not doing it right. He didn't like the way
- 9:47Speaker 5: they were.
- 9:48Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm like, that ain't me. I guess I'm old school.
- 9:52Speaker 4: You're not going to see me do that. Oh, man.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Real quick, because I know we've got to spend some
- 9:59Speaker 1: time talking about, what you're doing at What's Next Ministry
- 10:02Speaker 1: on Saturday, which is freaking awesome. I wanted to ask
- 10:05Speaker 1: you about the scheme, because, like, and you've heard this noise,
- 10:10Speaker 1: I'm sure. I've been asked by the media about it.
- 10:12Speaker 1: But the fans have really... had really nitpicked Averro's scheme.
- 10:17Speaker 1: And again, we don't really, I don't know how much
- 10:19Speaker 1: we know what we're talking about. But they'll bring up
- 10:21Speaker 1: things like, oh, those soft zones or.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Why are the corners?
- 10:26Speaker 1: It's third and four and the corners are giving big cushions. Like,
- 10:30Speaker 1: do you understand? Like, were there some things there that,
- 10:32Speaker 1: I mean, do these things kind of get to you too?
- 10:35Speaker 1: Or do you think fans just don't kind of understand maybe?
- 10:38Speaker 4: Like, I feel like everybody different. So, like, when I
- 10:42Speaker 4: come back, you're still going to see me playing off.
- 10:44Speaker 4: because I caught five picks playing off. So with playing off,
- 10:48Speaker 4: you do have to understand, like you got to be
- 10:51Speaker 4: more situationally aware. Like if it's third and four and
- 10:54Speaker 4: I'm off, I'm probably going to be off at like
- 10:56Speaker 4: six or seven and I'm going to be flat footed.
- 10:59Speaker 4: And most of the time, quick game, you're going to
- 11:01Speaker 4: get stick where number two goes to the flat, number
- 11:03Speaker 4: one runs like.
- 11:04Speaker 3: A five yard hit.
- 11:05Speaker 4: But how one runs the hitch, he kind of like
- 11:10Speaker 4: stems in and then goes and then sits. But, like,
- 11:15Speaker 4: there's no other route in the whole route tree where
- 11:17Speaker 4: number one stems, and there's a cut split, and he
- 11:20Speaker 4: stems in within, like, the first two yards of the
- 11:23Speaker 4: line of scrimmage.
- 11:24Speaker 3: Yeah. So that's my key, like, you finna sit down.
- 11:27Speaker 4: But some guys can see that, some guys can't.
- 11:29Speaker 3: Like, I learned that from Gilmore when I was in
- 11:31Speaker 3: New England.
- 11:32Speaker 1: So you feel like I can read it if it's
- 11:34Speaker 1: in front of me and I can get to it
- 11:35Speaker 1: quick enough.
- 11:35Speaker 3: I can get to it.
- 11:36Speaker 4: Like, it was a play I made against Buffalo. The
- 11:39Speaker 4: same exact route. It might have been second and ten, but...
- 11:43Speaker 4: still like i know i can get there so yeah
- 11:46Speaker 4: i feel like the illusion is like i'll go up
- 11:49Speaker 4: and press and which don't get me wrong you can't
- 11:52Speaker 4: like there's nothing wrong go put hands on guys but
- 11:56Speaker 4: at the same time you have guys like brent grimes
- 11:59Speaker 4: who was a baller like regardless press off like He
- 12:04Speaker 4: was a baller, and he was out there getting the ball.
- 12:06Speaker 3: Because that's the whole name of the game. Like, we
- 12:08Speaker 3: want the ball.
- 12:09Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:09Speaker 3: So if you can get the ball being pressed, cool.
- 12:11Speaker 3: If you can get it being off, cool.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Is it your choice? Or does a coordinator, like, tell
- 12:17Speaker 1: you situationally?
- 12:18Speaker 2: Or is it what you're comfortable with? How does that work?
- 12:21Speaker 4: One, it depends on where you're at. So you have
- 12:24Speaker 4: some teams where, like, we want you to press. But
- 12:28Speaker 4: then you have some teams where it's like, okay, if
- 12:31Speaker 4: it's third and ten– You don't really have to.
- 12:34Speaker 2: And you don't.
- 12:34Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 12:34Speaker 4: You don't have to unless you want to. Like some guys,
- 12:37Speaker 4: it can be third and 25.
- 12:38Speaker 2: And they want to get up and again.
- 12:40Speaker 3: Yeah. There's nothing wrong with that.
- 12:42Speaker 4: But then you have just how in y'all business, you
- 12:46Speaker 4: have to earn trust and earn respect. You have you
- 12:49Speaker 4: have to do that with certain people and. they allow
- 12:52Speaker 4: you to play how you want to play it, as
- 12:54Speaker 4: long as you make the play.
- 12:55Speaker 3: Interesting.
- 12:56Speaker 5: People making fun of you, Mac, on the text line
- 12:58Speaker 5: right now.
- 12:58Speaker 1: Why?
- 12:58Speaker 2: What am I doing?
- 12:59Speaker 5: They think Mike Jack is breaking it down, and you're
- 13:01Speaker 5: acting like you know what he's talking about.
- 13:02Speaker 2: I'm in, baby. You're saying, yeah, yeah, yeah. I played
- 13:05Speaker 2: Madden before, Mike Jack. You know all us fans that
- 13:07Speaker 2: play Madden think we got it all covered, baby. All right. Anyway, yeah,
- 13:11Speaker 2: that's what I do. I act like you know me.
- 13:12Speaker 2: You work with me long enough. I act like I
- 13:14Speaker 2: know what's going on. All right.
- 13:16Speaker 1: Now, one thing I can figure out what's going on is,
- 13:18Speaker 1: once again— We've got, you know, an athlete here in
- 13:22Speaker 1: Charlotte that is doing some real good. So with the
- 13:24Speaker 1: Thanksgiving holiday coming up in a couple of weeks, you
- 13:27Speaker 1: are going to be a part of a Thanksgiving drive-thru giveaway,
- 13:30Speaker 1: free turkeys and food bags.
- 13:32Speaker 2: This is Saturday.
- 13:33Speaker 1: This Saturday at the What's Next Ministry that is at
- 13:37Speaker 1: 4305 Monroe Road here in Charlotte from 1.30 to 4.30.
- 13:42Speaker 2: This is awesome for those that really could use this. Yeah.
- 13:46Speaker 2: What makes you, what makes you definitely want to be
- 13:49Speaker 2: a part of something like this?
- 13:50Speaker 4: Um, so my foundation has it every year, um, in
- 13:53Speaker 4: my hometown, uh, the race foundation. So, uh, for me,
- 13:57Speaker 4: it's kind of like Charlotte been good to me. Like,
- 13:59Speaker 4: let me just show love to them.
- 14:01Speaker 3: Um, you know, with the economy and how everything is,
- 14:05Speaker 3: people are hurting right now.
- 14:06Speaker 4: So let me just, you know, that way people don't
- 14:10Speaker 4: have to determine, all right, do we pay rent on
- 14:12Speaker 4: the first or do we have a nice Thanksgiving? Um, Like,
- 14:16Speaker 4: let me just be that helping hand and give back
- 14:20Speaker 4: because that's what it's all about.
- 14:21Speaker 2: That's awesome.
- 14:22Speaker 5: That's why we love you, man. Not only the player,
- 14:25Speaker 5: what you do, but stuff like this.
- 14:27Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 14:27Speaker 5: You're a part of the Charlotte family, man. That's awesome.
- 14:29Speaker 2: No doubt about it. All right, so again. Someone said,
- 14:31Speaker 2: are you going to invite J.J.
- 14:32Speaker 5: Jansen out to this event?
- 14:34Speaker 2: He was at the first Thanksgiving.
- 14:35Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 14:36Speaker 2: In a pilgrim hat.
- 14:37Speaker 3: All right.
- 14:41Speaker 2: He is Mike Jackson.
- 14:42Speaker 1: You can see him, and you can be a part
- 14:45Speaker 1: of Thanksgiving drive-thru giveaway of free turkeys and food bags.
- 14:48Speaker 1: What's next ministry on Monroe Road this Saturday, 1.30 to 4.30. Man,
- 14:53Speaker 1: I'm so glad to hear that you're very close to
- 14:55Speaker 1: getting back. You're feeling better.
- 14:58Speaker 2: Get back. Stay healthy. And appreciate you coming in here.
- 15:01Speaker 2: Appreciate what you're doing for Charlotte, man.
- 15:03Speaker 3: Thank you all for having me.