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Does Ohio State Lead For 5-Star Linebacker Tyler Atkinson? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 3: Hello everyone, Welcome to the Skull Session recruiting podcast, brought
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  Speaker 3: to you by bucke Huddle dot com. I am Mark Givler,
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  Speaker 3: joined as usual by Kevin Noon. We are what roughly
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  Speaker 3: mid midway through Southern Swing, just about get about.
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  Speaker 2: But we have arrived in Florida.
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  Speaker 3: But we're going to do our Georgia recap, so not
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  Speaker 3: to confuse anyone. Georgia what five stops for Monday one Friday? Yes,
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  Speaker 3: so we stopped at five different schools in the greater
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  Speaker 3: Atlanta area and I learned a lot about certain guys. Kevin,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you the low hanging well, what what
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  Speaker 3: did you learn?
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  Speaker 4: I learned that once again Georgia is loaded and that
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  Speaker 4: Ohio State sits in pretty good shape with a couple
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  Speaker 4: of guys and then you know, can keep swinging and
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  Speaker 4: you know, keep landing guys from the from the state
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  Speaker 4: of Georgia once again. Lineman seemed to Lineman Lineman linebackers
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  Speaker 4: seemed to be in you know, big demand and it's
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  Speaker 4: really shaping up to be a you know, I think,
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  Speaker 4: a pretty good haul for the Buckeyes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I learned that Ohio State is the leader. For
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Atkinson.
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  Speaker 4: I was going to let you go with that because
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  Speaker 4: I'm still in I'm still kind of.
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  Speaker 2: In blob at d Wade to Lebron, I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: lob it.
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  Speaker 5: Up for well, I know, and I like the thirty
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  Speaker 5: five thousand of you foot view.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, Tyler Atkinson h flat out called Ohio State's
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  Speaker 3: leader in our interview.
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  Speaker 2: Uh we you know, and we asked them why just
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  Speaker 2: because they are?
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  Speaker 3: He said, because I said so, yes, But he also
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  Speaker 3: did add your relationships and things like that. But yes, Uh,
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  Speaker 3: huge news for Ohio State right now. He's going to
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  Speaker 3: release his official visit list relatively soon.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know yet. Went Ohio States on this calendar,
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  Speaker 2: but he wouldn't.
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  Speaker 5: Even confirm they were getting a visit. For whatever that
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  Speaker 5: is worth.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's uh yeah, Well, I'm highly confident Ohio States
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  Speaker 3: getting an official visit, so we will find out the
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  Speaker 3: date of that shortly. But big revelation because for a
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  Speaker 3: kid who doesn't like to give away a lot, he
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  Speaker 3: was pretty animate about giving.
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  Speaker 2: Him that away, right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I was a little shocked when he said it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean again, am I am I surprised that Ohio
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  Speaker 4: State could be leading for him? No, I mean Ohio
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  Speaker 4: State has done a great job of recruiting him. He
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  Speaker 4: got offered the summer leading into his freshman year. I
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  Speaker 4: mean kind of really took Camp over by storm just
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  Speaker 4: by being there, the fact that he was given the offer,
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  Speaker 4: and then it's just been a permanent fixture for us
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  Speaker 4: on Southern Swing and the relationships with with James Lorenidis
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  Speaker 4: and I think it's gonna be very important for Ohio
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  Speaker 4: State to have a big year out of its linebackers
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  Speaker 4: from Sunny Styles, from r VL Reese, maybe even Peyton
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  Speaker 4: Piers depending on how they're going to configure some things.
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  Speaker 4: Tyler Atkinson said that they're kind of talking to him
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  Speaker 4: about kind of like everything when it comes to the position,
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  Speaker 4: not really showing him into one spot or another. But
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  Speaker 4: we're talking about a recruitment in the South, and it's
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  Speaker 4: you know, it ain't over till it's over.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I do think, you know, take things maybe like just
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  Speaker 3: a grain of like optimism. Obviously you want to be
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  Speaker 3: optimistic about this if you're an Ohio State fan. I
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  Speaker 3: think Ohio State is very capable of signing Tyler Atkinson,
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  Speaker 3: but there is a lot of work left to be done.
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  Speaker 3: I do think between the relationship he's developed with James
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  Speaker 3: Lornidis and just the times he's been to Ohio States,
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  Speaker 3: I stayed several times over the years between those things,
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  Speaker 3: and I think this is going to line up well
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  Speaker 3: for the buck up with Sunny Styles coming into his
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  Speaker 3: money here rvel Reese technically draft eligible.
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  Speaker 2: After this coming season.
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  Speaker 3: Time flies, but I think they're gonna have two dynamic
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  Speaker 3: linebackers this year, maybe more than they've ever had you know,
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  Speaker 3: in the you know, in the last decade or so
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  Speaker 3: at Ohio State, so that I think is only going
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  Speaker 3: to help them. I think a big thing on his
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  Speaker 3: official and he got to start this process already, so
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  Speaker 3: it's not like there's been no contact or anything. But
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  Speaker 3: I think a big thing on the official will be
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  Speaker 3: spending a couple of days around Matt Patricia and really
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  Speaker 3: just diving into the weeds and getting into things on
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  Speaker 3: what exactly Matt Patricia maybe could be.
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  Speaker 2: Cooking up for Tyler Ratkinson at the next level.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that's gonna be a key thing. And again,
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  Speaker 3: now I think this video is going to make the
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  Speaker 3: rounds with that we did with him schools, I think
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  Speaker 3: already had an idea that Ohio State was going to
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  Speaker 3: be a contender here. That's only going to kind of
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  Speaker 3: fuel the drive of these other programs to try and
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  Speaker 3: make up the ground.
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  Speaker 2: So definitely only ways to go there.
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  Speaker 3: But obviously, you know, some of the best news for
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State that we've uncovered coming out of this trip.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it really You look at his relationship with cuce
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  Speaker 4: Gerald's we haven't really talked about yet. You look at
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  Speaker 4: a lot of things that are going on there, and
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  Speaker 4: it has been a minute since Ohio State has been
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  Speaker 4: able to land that huge name linebacker. I mean, obviously,
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  Speaker 4: you know there was excitement around Peyton Pierce. I think
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  Speaker 4: in the most recent cycle with Riley Pettijohn with with
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  Speaker 4: with TJ.
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  Speaker 5: Alford.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's excitement there, but we haven't seen those
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  Speaker 4: two play. We really haven't seen Peyton Pierce play anything.
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  Speaker 4: So it's been how long since Laura and Iidis was recruited.
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  Speaker 4: It's been how long since they've been able to get
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  Speaker 4: some of these names, And sometimes when they get them,
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  Speaker 4: it takes a while for get to be put together.
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  Speaker 4: Justin Hilliard, huge name when he was recruited, but it
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  Speaker 4: didn't really click until the end. So I really think
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  Speaker 4: that this Tyler Atkinson news is huge, But I think
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  Speaker 4: everybody else's NIL collective has just been getting in their
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  Speaker 4: marching orders. And you know, I think that Ohio State
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  Speaker 4: is able to come at this from a different place.
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  Speaker 4: That doesn't mean that they're going to be able to
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  Speaker 4: come at it without an NIL component.
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  Speaker 5: But Ohio State.
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  Speaker 4: Still is not going to be the school you go
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  Speaker 4: to for the biggest NIL offer. I'm just I'm convinced
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  Speaker 4: of that until I hear otherwise, I'm going to die
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  Speaker 4: on that hill.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they've been much more in the retention business,
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  Speaker 3: you know, or or or whether it's getting someone out
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  Speaker 3: of portal and that's you know, proven themselves at the
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  Speaker 3: level of a Kale downs.
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  Speaker 2: So you know we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, Tyler Atkinson mentioned over and over again relationships,
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  Speaker 3: scheme development, and if those things are truly going to
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  Speaker 3: win out, you have to like Ohio State's chances of
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  Speaker 3: possibly pulling this off, and it would be quite quite
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  Speaker 3: a pickup.
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  Speaker 2: And like I said, I think, I think what we're
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  Speaker 2: seeing now is the return of.
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  Speaker 3: Ohio States linebacker room to glory, the return to glory
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  Speaker 3: of the OSU linebacker room.
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  Speaker 2: And I were going to see it. I think we
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  Speaker 2: started to see it last year for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Cody Simon had a great year, Sonny Styles had a
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  Speaker 3: breakout year, Rvel Reese in a way had a bit
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  Speaker 3: of a breakout as well.
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  Speaker 2: I think it will continue this year.
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  Speaker 3: I think they got a couple of great ones last year,
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  Speaker 3: you know, two or three really good ones last year.
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  Speaker 2: So I think what we're seeing now is just kind
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  Speaker 2: of this this re re emergence.
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  Speaker 3: Of the linebacker reinvigoration, if you will, Yes spearheaded by
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  Speaker 3: James Lora ns Well.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the thing when you bring in James Laura
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  Speaker 4: Night is when you go and you bring him from
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  Speaker 4: Notre Dame and then you elevate him to a position coach,
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  Speaker 4: and that that really was the thing when you had
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  Speaker 4: Jim Knowles. And I know, as you're listening to this,
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  Speaker 4: the Jim Knowles interview with Heather Dnnich is still fresh.
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  Speaker 5: In your mind.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not here to talk bad about Jim Knowles, but
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  Speaker 4: he was just not a great recruiter. So I think
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  Speaker 4: when you bring in somebody who, all right, the little
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  Speaker 4: animal isn't as big as he was when he played
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  Speaker 4: in the NFL, or certainly at Ohio State, but he
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  Speaker 4: still looks like he could get out there and throw
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  Speaker 4: some bodies around. And I think that when you have
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  Speaker 4: that young, dynamic recruiter for a reason. And I think
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  Speaker 4: that with all of that, that is all feeding into
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  Speaker 4: these touch points that Tyler Atkinson is looking.
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  Speaker 3: For, no question, So again, really big news. We'll see
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  Speaker 3: how the next couple of months play out. He's not
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  Speaker 3: given away anything on timeframe, So whether it's the summer,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's this winter.
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  Speaker 2: Either way, it probably doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: It's really when these kids sign at this point, and
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  Speaker 3: you know he'll be signing somewhere in December, like no
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  Speaker 3: one's gonna no one's gonna stop.
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  Speaker 2: Recruiting him if he commits somewhere in July.
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  Speaker 3: Like if Ohio State doesn't get him in July and
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  Speaker 3: you go somewhere else, Ohig Stat's not gonna stop recruiting him.
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  Speaker 3: Five statek get the comipment in July. The other schools
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  Speaker 3: an't gonna stop recruiting him. So it's it's one of
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  Speaker 3: those things you just have to kind of monitor this
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  Speaker 3: the whole way to the finish line. But really, good news.
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  Speaker 3: You can't be any better than first right now. You can't.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing else you can They.
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  Speaker 4: Do all the lead right now, you can't sign them
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  Speaker 4: at this point. So and and and I'm gonna even
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  Speaker 4: say this, even if he does commit to Ohio State
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  Speaker 4: in July or August or whenever, if you are delicate
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  Speaker 4: about recruiting, this may not be the recruitment for you.
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  Speaker 4: Because I'm not saying that Tyler Atkinson is going.
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  Speaker 5: To play games.
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  Speaker 4: I just think that there is going to be a
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  Speaker 4: giant cloud of subterfuge out there with everybody saying and
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  Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not taking this against the industry, but
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  Speaker 4: you know, oh, it was Tyler Atkinson slipping away. I
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  Speaker 4: fully predict just a lot of fake news about this
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  Speaker 4: one coming out one way or the other. So if
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  Speaker 4: you get a little squeamish on recruiting, let me tell
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  Speaker 4: you about you know, I don't know Simeon Caldwell. I
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  Speaker 4: think that one is going to be much more smooth.
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  Speaker 4: And that's a Florida guy. And I'm getting ahead of myself,
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  Speaker 4: but just looking for somebody I feel is a little safer.
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  Speaker 2: We are bold school.
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  Speaker 3: We're about to talk to Sam in here in a
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  Speaker 3: few minutes, so we'll look for that the next day
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  Speaker 3: or so on Buckeye huddletut. But yeah, I look, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think Atkinson's a game player. I think he's been
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  Speaker 3: pretty deliberate about how he's handled things. But yeah, there's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be stuff. There was stuff with Jeremiah Smith, there
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  Speaker 3: was stuff with Chris Henry Junior. You know these guys,
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  Speaker 3: they moved the needle in terms of clicks, and so
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  Speaker 3: we've seen some weird stuff run over the years with
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  Speaker 3: with with certain guys. And yeah, I don't suspect this
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  Speaker 3: thing will go quietly until December.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, all right, that's one that was one and we'll
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  Speaker 2: spend that was the one.
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  Speaker 3: I think that was the biggest news matters we've had
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  Speaker 3: this trip so far, so we had to kind of
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  Speaker 3: spend some time on that. But we started off our
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  Speaker 3: Georgia swing with Deuce Gerald's one of our favorite kids
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  Speaker 3: to cover and great player position a need for Ohio State. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: he would not come right out and say Ohio State leads,
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  Speaker 3: but that's our impression from talking to him, talking to
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  Speaker 3: people around that recruitment, and you know that one looks
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  Speaker 3: very good as well for Ohio State right now.
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  Speaker 4: Deuce Gerald's another player that we have been seeing for
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  Speaker 4: years and years and years, and honestly, he acts, He
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  Speaker 4: acts like, oh I forgot you guys were coming. And
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  Speaker 4: then he has an Ohio State shirt on and Ohio
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  Speaker 4: State gloves and Ohio State shoelace. Maybe not the shoelaces,
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  Speaker 4: but he really enjoys the process. And people, again using
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  Speaker 4: the term gameplayer mistake that for a game player. No,
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  Speaker 4: that's just somebody who's having fun with the process. And
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  Speaker 4: you know, Ohio State has done a great job with
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  Speaker 4: Deuce making sure that the love is there because you know,
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  Speaker 4: I think he's a player that really wants to feel comfortable,
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  Speaker 4: wants to feel home in Ohio State when it comes
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  Speaker 4: to that, When that is one of the top asks
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  Speaker 4: from a player, Ohio State really does a good job
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  Speaker 4: with home slash culture, slash whatever that is. That is,
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  Speaker 4: that's their calling cards. So yeah, I think things are
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  Speaker 4: progressing nicely.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and look like almost a four year relationship now
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  Speaker 3: with Larry Johnson.
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  Speaker 2: That's been big. Ryan Day has continued to get involved
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  Speaker 2: when when needed. There.
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  Speaker 3: The relationship with Tyler Atkinson is going to be interesting here.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, Tyler kind of tossed that
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  Speaker 3: aside when talking about his decision. But if Duce decides early,
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  Speaker 3: like he said, not early, but in this summer, like
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  Speaker 3: he says he's going to, he says he's going to
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  Speaker 3: try and to side after his official visits. Probably he's
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  Speaker 3: looking at August second, that's not official, but he's he's
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  Speaker 3: eyeing that as.
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  Speaker 2: A potential decision date.
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  Speaker 3: If they would be able to get him in there,
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  Speaker 3: I think I think he would immediately change the discussions
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  Speaker 3: with Tyler Atkinson from hey buddy, how are you doing
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  Speaker 3: and what do you think of this?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think of that? And how's life?
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  Speaker 3: I think there would be some Ohio State conversations that
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  Speaker 3: start to develop there as well.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I just.
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  Speaker 3: Continue to get a great vibe from Deuce when it
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  Speaker 3: comes to Ohio State, but it comes to his relationships
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  Speaker 3: with the buck Eys, and as someone at the school
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  Speaker 3: told me while we were there, just said, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Duce has really just fallen in love with that place,
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  Speaker 3: and his dad played it old miss. I think that's
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  Speaker 3: probably the team that maybe would be the biggest threat
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  Speaker 3: at this point.
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  Speaker 2: He's got LSU in there was Oregon.
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  Speaker 5: I think is the I think so at a lot
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  Speaker 5: of people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, those are the four scheduled and so we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: But I just I've been very confident that Ohio State's
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  Speaker 3: going to get Deuce Gerald's and that's still where I'm
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  Speaker 3: at right now.
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  Speaker 2: After meeting with them again.
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  Speaker 5: I was asked on my big me kickoff on what
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  Speaker 5: day of the week is it? Wednesday?
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  Speaker 3: Is it?
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  Speaker 5: I don't even know what day of the week it
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  Speaker 5: is Tuesday.
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  Speaker 4: Who I felt most confident from Georgia was going to
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  Speaker 4: end up in the Ohio State class And I said
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  Speaker 4: Duce Geralds And then I turned around and changed it
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  Speaker 4: and posted it in my notes. We'll be sure to
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  Speaker 4: check out my notes for Big Me Kickoff, But I
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  Speaker 4: think that it's really in the right direction. Off the record,
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  Speaker 4: I spoke to one of them about the conversations that
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  Speaker 4: they have and it's like, it's really not about recruitment.
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  Speaker 4: But to Mark's point, I think if one of them
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  Speaker 4: commits to Ohio State before the other, I think we're
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  Speaker 4: gonna We're gonna see the geometry chain a little bit there,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, could I see a situation where Ohio
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  Speaker 4: State it's one and not the other. Certainly, but I
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  Speaker 4: think it's much more likely of all the scenarios, I
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  Speaker 4: think the one that is most likely to me as
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  Speaker 4: it stands right now on the sixth of May, I
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  Speaker 4: do know that much that Ohio State is going to
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  Speaker 4: get both of them.
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  Speaker 5: Would I would I have said that a week ago?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I probably not.
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  Speaker 3: If Sady Day was tomorrow, I think both would sign
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  Speaker 3: with Ohio State. And yeah, I don't think I would
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  Speaker 3: have said that two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 2: I would have said it about Deuce.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I probably taken the field against
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: Ohio State for Atkinson, but I think Georgia, obviously with
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: Atkinson's not going to go down without a fight and
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: Ole Miss his father's alma mater, certainly not going to
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: go down without a fight. But I just I think
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: they've got such such a build in advantage on the
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: relationships with those two guys right now that that they're
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: going to make it tough on these other programs. Another
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: guy that you know, probably should be talked about a
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: little bit more, at least, Carson Baker, Top Top one,
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Top two fifty running back, four star running back, Langston Hughes,
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Jelanie Thurman school, former OHIOSIP quarterbacker, and Nolin school. He's
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: very high on the Buckeyes as well. He's got a
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: really good relationship with Carlos Lachlan. He came to camp
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: last summer, earned the offer. Things have kind of been
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: on the upswing ever since. He's probably gonna decide this summer,
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: probably in July, after his officials. He's taking his official
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: to a high state in June. Kevin, you know what's
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: your vibe there? There's a lot of there's a lot
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: of balls.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: In the air right now at running back, Like there's it's.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Hard to kind of figure this out because there's gonna
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: be a game of dominoes that's gonna have to take place,
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: and you know, with guys, one decision could could affect
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: another decision, et cetera.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: But you know, how are you feeling about Carson Baker
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: coming out of that conversation.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: I feel like a broken record in oh Ohio State
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: for this guy, in Ohio State, for that guy. I mean, somewhere, somewhere,
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: you're not going to get one. And I think that
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: some of those are in other states. I mean, again,
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: we're very targeted in the players that we talked to.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, we could spend weeks in every state and
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: never come back back to Ohio and you know there
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: would be all sorts of issues and disconnections of utility.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: So we can't do that. But yeah, I like Ohio
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: State's chances there too. I mean, what is I mean
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: Ohio State taking two backs? I mean, are they going
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: to find a way to try and take three? I
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: mean they took three in this last cycle. I mean
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: it's harder to imagine how they take three here. I mean,
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: do they get to a point of where it's like, okay,
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: you three first one in is in or whatever?
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: I don't you know, I don't know, but there's been.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: No shortage of interest from Ohio State in Carson, So
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: it would seem to me that Ohio State probably wouldn't
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: put an ultimatum out at least until September one or
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: something like that.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Are they holding anybody off to see what happens elsewhere?
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: You know, I don't know.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: But when we spoke to Carson, I don't even remember
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: if we did this on camera or off camera, just
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: his conversations with Jelani, And you know, I think a
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: lot of people might assume that Jelani, who's not playing
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: a ton, might be a.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: Little negative toward things.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: That is not That is not the impression we were
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: given by Carson. Carson says that Jelani maybe like the
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: biggest ambassador for Ohio State.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you upset, if feathers were ruffled by Max
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Claire's edition, Jelanni isn't telling anyone, that's for sure.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: He's very complimentary of Ohio State.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: During Carson's spring visit to Columbus and I continues to
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: push the buck eyes there, Carson made mention that Jelanni
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: caught a couple of touchdown passes in practice that he
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: was at. So there's a little nugget that he dropped
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: on everyone, So I like where they stand. They're not
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: holding off anyone right now, They're not like they're not
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: holding off favor A Key. I still like Derek Cooper
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: is still kind of the elephant in the room of
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: like how long do you wait on that? Do you
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: pull the ripcord if it feels like you're slipping? And
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: we're gonna talk to Derek here this week, so we're
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: gonna get a good feel for that one and where
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: it kind of stands now.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: But I know that's the guy that they have really
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: just kind of been in love with.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: But they like, they really like favorite Key, they really
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: like Carson Baker, A couple of their guys are really
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: like as well.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Sadian Hider is another one. I think you're onto something
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: with the first.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: The first one I think is in and then they
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: got to really start thinking about things about, Okay, are
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: we waiting for Derek Cooper?
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Do we go to somebody and say in or out?
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: We need to know?
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Like how I think that's gonna be the key is
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: how they navigate that once they have won. I do
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: think they're gonna get two. I don't think they're gonna
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: even try. I don't know if they even try to
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: take three. To be honest with you, I don't know that. Like,
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: let's just throw hypothetical out there. Let's say they could
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: get a key in Baker to commit by the end
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: of July. I don't know that it would behoove them
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: at that point to continue the Derek Cooper sweepstakes if
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: they're still in it, when it may run one of
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: the others off and that's like, Okay, what did you
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: really gain by doing that?
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: So that's gonna be There's a lot of tough, kind
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: of first world problems that Carlos Laughlin's gonna have to
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: deal with. I think this summer with running backs. But again,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: I think they're well positioned to get two really good ones.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: And I think that's really all it matters at the
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: end of the day, is we consider and trying and
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: guess which two of the four it's going to be,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: and probably be wrong on at least one of them.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: But I just think I think it's I just said
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: they're in a great position to get two good ones.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: And remember this is Lachlan's first class. I mean everybody
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: will say, well last year, well last year he came
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: in midway through. I mean bo Jackson was already there.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: I mean he was there in terms of a target,
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: but they moved away from Marquise Davis. They go and
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: they go to Pennsylvania, get it back there, and then
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: they get in late on Turbo Rodgers. But this is
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: one where I think it's been more full evaluations. So
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: it'll be very curious because we always talk about a
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: coach when it's his first cycle to go through things,
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: whether it's a head coach overall or a position coach
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: just for his position. So this is one of the
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: ones that I'm I'm sneaky watching closer than maybe I'm
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: letting on.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely gonna be an interesting thing to watch this
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: summer when it's again.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: It's gonna gonna be some interesting decisions and see who
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: they stay in with, see if they start to maybe
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: put a little heat on some guys that they want
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: a decision from.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: But you know, we could see favorite key off off
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: the board here this month.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: And then and then what I mean, he's the local guy. Yeah,
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: he's the local guy.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Then it comes Yeah, then I just think again they
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: maybe maybe they'll let the officials play out in June
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: and kind of if someone pops on the official like
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: you know, hey, you know you took the spot, you know,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's gonna be interesting.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be fun to watch here the
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: next couple of months.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: That position, specifically, as we see some other positions kind
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: of closing themselves out, like wide receiver and some other
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: you know, they're getting kind of down to it at
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: just a couple of different spots, but you know, this
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: will be one that I think we're watching quite a
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: bit over the summer.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: K we have met with.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Three of we have met with arguably the three best
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: junior defensive ends in the country are certainly three of
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: the top handful of defensive of junior defensive ends in
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: the country kJ green Stone Mountain, Stephenson's Well, I got
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: a great vibe from kJ, not just as a as
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: a great interview, but I got a great vibe from
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: him and the kind of people around him on Ohio State.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: I look there and I'm just like, I'm gonna have
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: to say no on somebody as long as Mark doesn't
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: say PJ. Dean, I mean, you know, as we're kind
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: of going through this and then we have a twenty
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: eight to talk about, or twenty seven to talk about
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: as well, So I have more time to waffle on
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: that one. But yeah, I think that everything that kJ
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: Green said about Ohio State was very positive. I think
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: that the things that we kind of heard off camera
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: from people were all positive as well. I think you
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: run into the same issues that you run into all
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: the time. Larry's old, when's he going to retire?
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: There?
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: You know, there are programs recruiting against Ohio State. Not
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: only is Larry going to retire, I mean, Larry's not
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: long for this earth. I mean, you know, it's just terrible,
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: awful stuff. And again I'm going back more to a
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: thad Moda type of story about somebody saying that that
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: MODI are, Yeah, that thad Moda was like going to
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: die or something. But you know, I this is a
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: position where Ohio State is not full up. This is
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: not receiver, this is not what running back could be
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: very quickly. So we're not playing a numbers game at
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: this point. The visit's going to be so important. Again,
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: I always look at players in Georgia and in Florida
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: and say, okay, well you got to look at the
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: long game and everything else here. But why not Ohio State.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: I know, if you put my feet to the fire,
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: am I going to say Ohio State? I'm just gonna
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: play the law of averages and said I'm gonna take
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: the field. But I don't know if I'm necessarily full
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: of conviction on that.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I think this is one little high State's
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: going to be in. He made the effort to get
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: up there in March. Was super impressed by their championship run.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: I've been telling everyone will listen, twenty seven is gonna
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: be the year they really get the championship bounce.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: He said.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: He watched the championship. He said he had to get
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: up there, got up there in March, got the offer
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: in person. I know there's people around him that are
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: very impressed by Larry Johnson as well, not just not
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: just kJ And then you know just what they're doing
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: on the field again, They're gonna be able to sell
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: a depth chart for these twenty twenty seven kids that
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: is very appealing.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Like, yes, they just lost their two defensive ends. They're
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: gonna lose their two defense ends again this year. They're
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: gonna you know, Kayden.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Curry's gonna be gone, and Kenyanna Jackson's gonna be like
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: there's gonna be this huge opportunity for twenty twenty sevens,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: which which gives me some optimism when we talked to
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: some of these kids, like a Chris White had, like
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: a kJ Green of like they're talking really high about
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: a high StatET. Now what happens in six months?
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: I think in six months the depth chart becomes even
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: more Cleariento Atkinson will be at the end of the line,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: and where's Logan George stand on the lining, sing like as.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: A speed rusher.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Like.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I think things clear up even better for Ohio State
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: in six to eight months. So we'll see.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: But good start with kJ Green Verius very talented kid,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: big time players. So that was a good one.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: And then we wrapped up DJ Jacobs.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: We haven't talked about, Oh, PJ. Dean, we're seeing North
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Carolina DC. I don't even know what talked about PG
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: on in the North Carolina that was that was two
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: states ago.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, that was two states ago. DJ Jacobs blessed show.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: By the way, go watch our PJ. Dean interview. That
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: was he was phenomenal.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: But DJ Jacobs blessed Trinity same high school as Steel
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Chambers twenty twenty seven defensive end. Again, he was the
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: third guy said when when I mentioned we had three
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: of that, maybe the top couple of top four or
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: five six defensive ends in the country. In twenty seven,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: DJ Jacobs offered bio Hives state. Ryan Day made it
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: a point to go down there in February to go
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: to the school. Ryan A doesn't hit every school in February,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: I can promise you that, So this was pretty calculated.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: He's got a younger brother, Dawson, who's gonna be a
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: big time player in twenty eight as well.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Kevin, this is one. You know, I've kind of been
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: optimistic on this show.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: This one. They got some work to do. They gotta
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: get him on campus. They got some they got some
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: ground to make up.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, very impressive kid.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: I mean he's gonna be the he's gonna win the
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: interview Day one. I mean, I I love that type
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: of player. But yeah, he he goes to a Catholic school.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, he you know, he's I'm not Catholic. I'm Christian,
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: I'm not Catholic. So you know people are going to
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: immediately try and pencil him into Notre Dame. I don't
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: know if it's going to be Notre Dhim. He's going
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: to be one hundred percent a national type of recruit.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: I mean he will go everywhere from you know, from
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: from usc all the way to Syracuse down to Miami
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: up to Washington. I mean, he could be he could
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: be anywhere. But his coach couldn't say enough great things about.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: Him during the pre interview.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's just a brother and his brother. I mean,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: he's just one of these athletic freaks. And you know,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: one thing that I will say that I think really
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: resonated with him that didn't make the interview though.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, as we were.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Talking kind of about faith is the fact that Ohio
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: State and his championship rings on the inside had the
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: cross in there. And he's like, I found that to
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: be really cool. And you know, while maybe some of
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: the leaders of the Faith Revival, Trevan Henderson, Henderson and
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Mecca Buca have moved on to the National Football League,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: that kind of stuff doesn't just exit the program with
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: a couple of people. So I think that that's going
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: to be something that is going to be important to
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: him because you know, you could just tell that it
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: was not lip service from him.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and again I look like his dad played at Georgia.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: His dad signed with Georgia out of high school, did
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: have kind of injuries to rail his career at Georgia
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: a little bit. But so there's a there's more familiarity
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: with Georgia at this point. There's more familiarity with Notre
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Dame at this point. He was able to go up
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: there and see Marcus Freeman and talk to him, and
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: so he's got a little bit more frame of reference
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: there than he does with Ohio State right now. So
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: that's just one right now where I'm like, Okay, they've
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: got his attention. He's interested in getting up there. He's
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: talked about getting up there in the summer for a camp,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: if not maybe getting like the Texas game in August.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: That's got to happen before we start, you know, getting
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: too optimistic about that one. But that's a guy that
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Ryan Day again went and personally checked in on in February.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: And that's one that I think Ohio State it's going
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: to do the best they can to get into that.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Just expect, even with it probably being a noon game,
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: expect Ohio State Texas to have a who's whose list
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: of recruits. Everybody said they wanted to try and make
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: it to that game. And one thing that you know
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: you won't be able to see in the video is
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: really impressed with Blessed Trinity's head coach. He was a
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: former coach at Buford. I think that if you go
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: and you look in the dictionary for high school football
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: head coach, he was one of those types of guys,
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: you know, really impressive, and he said that he's gotten
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: just more than Dawson Jacobs as well. In twenty eight
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: it looks like that Blessed Trinity is going to be
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: a program back on the rise with with some of
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: the kids that are in in that program.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. And a new coach, he's only been there
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: a few years. You did not coach Steel in high school.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: So we got to meet meet the new coach. I
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: got to new he's been there a few years, but
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: their new word new to us. Yeah, new to us
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: head coach, and so that was that was a great
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: conversation as well. So yeah, and then that wrapped up
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: our our Georgia swing. We drove five and a half
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: hours to Jacksonville.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: After all that, we now we're here.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: We made it here and we're we'll be on the
• 29:08
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• 29:12
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• 29:16
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• 29:25
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• 29:28
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• 29:30
  Speaker 3: It's just the first few days and it's just it's
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• 29:35
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• 29:37
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• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Well that's not even worse, that's even worth
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: two nine, you know. But yes, we we are very
• 30:00
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• 30:03
  Speaker 3: check us out over there if you're not already, and
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: subscribe to the YouTube channel as well if you're not.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: That helps us out a lot and gets us to
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: reach more Ohio State fans.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: But that'll do it for this one.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: We got a couple of Ohio State commits to go
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: talk to here, so we'll get those interviews up as well,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: But appreciate everyone watching and listening, and we'll talk to
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: you again very soon.