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Karate Kid Embargo: Mars One Scam Exposed & Billy Corgan's Meltdown · Multiple Nerdgasm

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[Music] welcome to multiple
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nerdgasm your destination for all things
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nerdy welcome back again Jens 109 yes how you been pretty good but I really
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want to jump straight into this I need to get start talking about this Mars one
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oh right yeah mhm have you heard that it might be a bit of a scam well I think
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it'll come as a surprise to absolutely no one that it might be a scam I mean
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Luke if you had been 100% certain that this was definitely going to happen you
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would have filled in the form right I started to fill in the form is
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that when things started to seem suspicious are you just we just one step
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ahead of everybody else is that what this is no I think I'm just lazy right yeah
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lazy and lucky apparently well no because I still paid my 33 bucks which
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you're right yeah but that's not where it ends in terms of getting the money I
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mean I'm sure you guys have read this article here yeah you got a flly it's all a bit
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mway a little bit pyramid scheme well somebody want to take us
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through well it seems like they've all been asked to sign or asked they're all
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forced to sign non-disclosure agreements and this guy's clearly broken his so I
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don't know what the deal with that is he's no longer in the top 100 well
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obviously he wouldn't be after this but um his name is Joseph Ro is
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that is that the Y and he um
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right 25 that's for you that seems fair
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yeah um there's also rumors going around that they instead of the 200,000 people
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they only got 2,700 yeah that's a very specific number
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for a rumor well what I've actually heard about that is it was just when the
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applications actually closed there was only 2,700 videos profiles on the site
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yeah so they're counting everybody who
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downloaded the form the first number in which you are included correct and then
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they just included the people who actually applied in the second number
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which was considerably less like 1% he said he was they're all supposed
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to get this interview like a professional interview and I think the
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idea was that they were going to come and interview them in person um you know
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and test them over days and and go through this procedure to make sure they
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were suitable and he said what actually happened was he was involved in a
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10-minute Skype call and then that's the last he heard of them directly and to be
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clear this guy's not just some Schmo no he's actually like a physicist and an
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astronomist right yeah yeah he's well he's doctor yeah J like he he entered
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this because he wants to go to Mars not because he wants to be on a reality TV
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show yeah yeah well I assume that's the case with most of the people
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uh certainly not the videos I saw all right okay uh most of the videos I saw
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were people well if you don't mind Luke people just like Luke who just thought
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it' be cool to go to Mars yep nothing wrong with that but Luke's not a
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doctor are you not a doctor Luke I reckon I give it a go he's not a
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doctor astrophysics is what I mean specifically he's a doctor of
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criminology yeah he's a doctor of a lot of things yeah yeah if you not doctor
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criminology I don't know why I would have this while the other brothers are
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doing time listen up it's C crimes I can't believe I didn't even see your
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[Laughter] segue yeah but yeah so disappointing and
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I guess yeah you dodged a bullet there a financial bullet Luke oh you did paid
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any extra yeah that's right he wouldn't have paid an extra money and he wouldn't
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have gotten through end of story you could have warned
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people well I'm just looking at some of the people who sort of in the top 100
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this person here um is atsuki she's 51
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they're not leaving for 10 years she's not going they're not going though
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you're not going to you're not sending a 60-year-old there none of them are going
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yeah I know but you think they to keep the sh going would have like make itable
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chance to go yeah but look here's the thing Mars One have come out and said
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said that they need to raise $6 billion to do this now number one $6 billion is
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a lot of money to raise with shitty Point based systems and
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$30 application forms right you're not going to make $6
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billion secondly actual professionals who make rockets and things for a living
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have said that you'd need trillions of dollars in order to make a manship to
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Mars yeah I I was actually listen to an interview today and what they were
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saying was yes um it would cost a lot more but the NASA and everything they're
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looking at the return trip as well the reason why they're so cheap is we're
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just firing you that way and good luck it's like jet star is that all though is
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that the only reason or is it that they just picked this arbitrary High sounding
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number that's actually just not high
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enough well they still say it is doable and they're still pushing ahead with it
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so they must be it's a bit like jet star as well in that they don't take you all
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the way to Mars they just kind of drop you off nearby and then you have to
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catch a shuttle bus the rest of the way or in this case just a shuttle yes
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just yeah it's so true it's so true a Tiger Airways is the same yeah you just
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get taken to a shed near the airport that's right yeah this is this is our
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fieldway yeah airport here's the thing though um apparently the marsan project
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had planned to make a lot of its budget by selling the TV rights and they' had a
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TV network lined up who has since pulled
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out oh and so not only are they not have a reality like the whole idea is they're
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going to sell this reality television show which would make a lot of money
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yeah that was going to they want the television show to pay
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first yeah and they're not no one's paying until they get there no that's
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right yeah because No One Believes they're going no you know why because they're not going
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like I'll put money on this right now that they don't go even in 10 years you
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can record this well it's being recorded obviously you could show this to me
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again in 10 years and I guarantee I'll be going see I was right they didn't go
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to Mars yeah don't get me wrong I hope they do but they
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won't yeah yeah it's all very strange like it's such a high-profile scam if it
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is a scam but like it's one of those things where like you can't prove
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they're not going to go really like I mean eventually you'll be able to prove
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that they didn't but well not if they just keep saying yeah we're still
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working on it I mean this is like those kickstarters that we criticize all the
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time that raise a whole bunch of money and then go oh it turns out it costs
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more than that sorry guys but thanks for the cash yeah like could we do this
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could we just say yeah we're we're the Mars 2 project can we register Mars
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2.com tell everyone they have to enter and it's $30 for the application form
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yeah as soon as the first mission is successful we'll proceed with ours we
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are going to chase Mars one yeah we're going to build upon the
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shoulders of those giants literally we're going to build a
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rocket on the outside of their rocket so when it takes off ipof facto
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we take off too we're going to sit in a wheelie bin and I'm going to use my bike
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chain to attach it to the rocket and then we're going to Mars and then we're
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going to ha hands so we don't DFT off into space not in a gay way no not in a
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gay way I mean if you want it to be sure um it reminds me of stuff like the
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yeah that company that will look after your pets after the Rapture if you're if
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you believe in that sort of thing cuz they say oh we're not we don't believe
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in it so we're not going to heaven but when you do we'll look after your pets
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for you just pay us a bunch of money now Advance is such an amazing that's so
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wrong it's genius no it's not wrong cuz if buckwitz want to give them money
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that's fine yeah and also the um this is more pseudo science stuff but
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you know like the cryogenics oh yeah where you know you can pay a lot of
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money to have your body frozen and then maybe one day they'll figure out a way
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to bring you back maybe yeah except they won't so you're not going to that's
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right because you're dead you're already dead yeah Frozen doesn't mean still
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alive yeah and they've probably done irreparable damage to your brain tissue
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by by freezing you there's actually a copy where you can freeze your pet's DNA
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so once they get cloning down you can just clone your pet back oh goodness
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[ __ ] creepy man but it wouldn't know you it' be like an identical twin you've
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never met yeah I was thinking about this the other
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day Luke I was thinking about clones cuz sometimes I just sit there thinking
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about clones how you do Luke if you and I got
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cloned the Clones wouldn't have tattoos
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no that's true I don't know why but they just popped into my head the other
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day I can't even think what I'd be like without tattoos anymore and they and they
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forkins that's true they would they absolutely would speaking of which we
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had some followup did anyone see this today uh I
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saw it yes I I haven't addressed it with any like you mean the message weed yeah
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the message we received as followup to the uh to the circumcision story of last
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week where a four-year-old boy is being forced to be circumcised against his
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will and then we had a listener right in uh and I'm sure she won't mind me
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reading out this email on the podcast on your story on circumcision I know a
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woman that got both her boys done when they were 4 because if you don't get it
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done within 10 days you have to wait until they're 4 which answers a lot of
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the questions that we were bumbling around last week like why why now that's
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why yeah her reasoning was that it was due to the fact that she hates giving
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head to a man who has a four skin and she worries her sons won't be satisfied
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sexually if they're not done right so
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this mother is literally circumcising her four-year-old boys so that they can
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get better blow jobs down the track that's an honorable cause I guess
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it's a bit weird to even think about that is it it is it
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is there's a reason behind it
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there's a reason behind
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[Music] it
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there's a reason behind it so you have you taken this to Heart Luke why would I
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take this to heart I don't know like do you think you're you think maybe there's
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um Echoes of that in your family you know is that why they made the decisions they
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made um I I I really don't want to think
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about it no no go on no no please don't make me think about it well that's kind
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of the thing isn't it I mean if you if you go in to the hospital and say I want
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to get my boys circumcised and they go oh 4 years old it's a bit late are you
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sure you want to get them done and why what's the reason and you go oh it's
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because I don't like giving head to guys who have four
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skins um no no I think the doctor better be asking a few follow-up questions right
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now right that's what I
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mean yeah well I mean rabbis don't like
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giving [ __ ] to uncircumcised babies
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either well they they don't mind starting uncircumcised but when they
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finish they like them to be circumcised yeah so that's what's
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interesting I um yeah it's a little little strange but um so is there a
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reason why the four years cuz that just seems you don't do
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it in 10 you got to wait till four years when they'll remember
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it is it punishing the parents for not getting it done or by punishing the
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children it just seems like a strange thing to
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yeah I mean if I search for 4 years circumcision yeah only get that little
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kid yeah you only get that little boy like yeah it just weird like at least we know a
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reason why they had to wait till 4 but now I'd like to know why doctors have to
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say that you have to wait 4 years
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H so please write in let us know she's
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fled with him
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what she faces jail time she fled with her
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child she kidnapped her own son so he wouldn't get his dick cut off mother of
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the [ __ ] year followed closely by our listeners friend who circumcised a kid
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so that we'll get better [ __ ] she will only avoid jail on a contempt
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charge if she signs the paperwork necessary to schedule the procedure that
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she initially agreed
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to no way surely that's
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an like I Luke absolutely hit the nail on the head last week when he said [ __ ]
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the law
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who look I don't want to cut bits off a kid as much as the next guy but a
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contract is a contract well I guess the point the problem is I do agree sort of
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but then on the other hand it can't really be like that like you kind of do
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need to just kind of go by the rules in a lot of cases cuz you know like
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otherwise come across this quite a lot where someone will agree to something
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and then they'll just change the by now I don't really want to do that there has
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you have to be able to go this piece of Pap if the judge if the judge says you
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know what ah let him keep his dick and then for some reason there's an issue
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like later that could come back on him but there should be there should be
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a statue of limitation on how long that
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original one last for yes but apparently yeah have to wait 4 years I don't know I
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couldn't find about that neither where'd she flee to don't
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tell everyone yeah no you're right we're on
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her side you're right all right I think we've already uh so she's broken
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the law now right so she's on the run with this kid and I'd like to know what
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Luke would do in her situation jingle
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TR take take your time while the other brothers are doing time listen up it's
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crimes oh this is really a tough one for
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skin so just set the same well well the problem that she's done with r is she's
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now not going to win any legal battle to stop it from happening now so I think
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she's made but clearly she was so uh convinced that she wouldn't mean
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that she has just but no I think it's because she's
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panicked and now I think if she had have actually took a time wasited a little
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bit longer while still going through Court cuz she basically got up she can
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flee just before walking into the hospital that's the time to fate she
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should have exhausted [Music]
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every so you support her flight she got no chance of win the timing of it she's
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got actually runs a chance of actually losing custody as well
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yeah I wonder if there's a way she could have faked the
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circumcision you hear what I mean like if she had found a doctor who would say
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publicly yep I did the circumcision I did it and found a mo who would publicly
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say yeah I I sucked the dick
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afterwards that will know like and then
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found a prosthetic penis or just a prosthetic foreskin or
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even just an old balloon and just tucked
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it over tucked it over his penis every time he went to his
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dad's case his dad's checking I think his dad would notice he's four he's not
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every time he's like whip it out I got to make sure if you if your parents are
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divorced and you stay at your dad's and you're four your dad is bathing you in
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the evening no that's just what happen it's not weird the dad will see the
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penis yeah it would be weird if the dad never saw the child naked right not
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right to priv you son I mean I took you to court to get bits of you chopped off
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but you've got the right not to show
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me all right your body your
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body oh dear well updates as we as we have them
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you know what's kind of oh a week a week after we have them you know what's kind
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of funny H isn't the little boy named
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Chase yeah it might it might be and now he's being chased goodness
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[Music] me I did want to bring up something in response to something that happened in
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last night's podcast right um last week
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we had a a jingle uh to be made uh that I said I'd like to do some backup vocals
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on and just due to circumstance we didn't get time to meet up so you did
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them yourself which is fine you do great Jingles but um you uh you doing an
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impression of me there Maddie no really you sure what do you
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mean well you're uh you're putting on a voice when you're doing the spoken word
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bit oh yeah it's it's a so that's not meant to be me that's not meant to be
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how I talk no it's just a rag timey rag
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timy voice all right all right well hang
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on let's I'll believe you tell me it is let's go to the
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tape cooking with Jan pots and pants and
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spoons and things cooking with Jan
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Mak see that time I did imagine you singing it in between and I was like
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maybe maybe it is you maybe uh subconsciously channeling the thought of
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me as a gay rag time singer no just imagined you on like you know like old
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old school television with your cooking show I've seen you buying presents when
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it's nobody's birthday exactly exactly uh but it's a good uh it's a
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good little jingle Matt I'll enjoy it yeah did you like the rejected jingle I
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like that even more in fact um I'm going to have to try to find an excuse to cook
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some uh some Chinese food so that uh all right we can discuss it on the podcast
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and you can play the jingle all right well we'll keep that one under our hats
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for now shall we or do you want me to play it well I mean you can play it but
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I haven't cooked any Chinese food tonight so oh we'll wait it be
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disingenuous I do cook Chinese food quite a lot so it'll happen so look the
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word ironic gets thrown around willy-nilly these days and I don't think
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anyone really has any idea what it actually means but
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sure I think something happened this week Matt that you read about that
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surely is the very definition and personification of irony someone's going
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to write it I'm sure and point out that it's not for some reason because irony
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is one of the stupid things that doesn't actually exist I I assume but yeah I'm
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I'm going to I'm going to guess that you mean this article about um the factory
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in Chicago yeah the fire extinguisher
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Factory that burnt down yeah so more
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than 150 Chicago firefighters were called to fight Flames at a building
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housing one of the Department's closest allies a fire extinguisher Factory wow
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so just goes to show 150 firefighters is a lot yeah you know they come around to
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work and they check that we've got those things but it just doesn't matter it's
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you can useless it doesn't matter how many you've got in the building I mean
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come on or maybe they you know maybe they don't fill the the fire
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extinguishes maybe they won't ready to go or something but but you know how
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like if you had say A dynamite Factory right yeah or let's take it down a notch
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say had a fireworks Factory mhm if it caught fire then the fireworks would all
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just start going off making it more of a
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fire right right surely the building would be burning but anytime fire got
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near a fire extinguisher that particular little bit of fire would just go out right
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when you mean if it like exploded and I mean I'm no does that have any effect but they
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just maybe making have no idea things and they get filled elsewhere
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maybe yeah that's what I wondered but it doesn't yeah they really make they
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really make them in two separate locations that seems a
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bit the fact that they don't mention this that like they don't mention that
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at all makes me think that probably is the case you're right because I mean the
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the headline in this article was something about horrible fire it was
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nothing about very definition and personification of irony
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so yeah there probably is something about this that makes it less
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interesting than we've made it yeah it's just yeah it's very funny headline
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though no I can't yeah I'm just trying to read through all it's got here um a
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portion of the building which firi said how house a forign extinguisher
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manufacturing business collapsed as a result of intense fire no injuries so that's
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good that's good to know yeah I mean if it hadn't been a fire exp Factory maybe
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everyone would have died yeah we don't know how bad this
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could have been exactly and then also I mean it's a bit cold over over the
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states this time of year so that's probably a factor especially in the windy
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city well fire likes wind is it going to be a shortage of fire extinguishers now
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oh H maybe that's its plan the fire has a
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plan yeah
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terrifying well I would like to talk about one other thing that I saw today
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uh and this is another case where I'm I'm I'm going to ask Luke for his
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opinion on how he would handle this um
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now we a lot of kids these days have phones very early we I didn't get a
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phone till I was quite old I had to get you know I bought my own pH I was 20
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yeah yeah I was I think I was maybe 18
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or 19 I bought it myself yeah um but you know kids these days they get they get
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iPhones um very early and that you know we've seen I'm sure on the podcast
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before uh they tend to throw a tantrum if they don't get an iPhone it's they're
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not interested in in Android or or anything although maybe that's changed
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you know with the Samsungs and whatnot but they they're very attached to their
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iPhones and one young girl in particular
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um seems so attached to her iPhone that she was willing to murder her mother to
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get it back so um she had confiscated the
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phone um and she thought they were addicted you know so they phone of
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them and
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then well she noticed uh in her smoothie that she she had
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made uh she was drinking a smoothie one day I just like hearing Matt say the word
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smoothie she was drinking her
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smoothie and she noticed a bleachy smell like like bleach and she thought oh
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that's odd maybe the glass just you know was just cleaned and uh you know it's
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it's got a bit of a smell about it but then she started to feel ill which
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eventually passed but then a few days later there was a a
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water car am I saying that right kff I just have
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bottles a kff yeah I don't know what kind of Posh [ __ ] has a kff of water in
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her house but wow the kind of Posh [ __ ] that buys a two teenage daughter iphon
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yeah um noticed that the water caraffe in her room smelled of bleach as well so
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she confronted her daughter and who told her yeah I'm trying to kill you so I get
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my phone back I love it these two
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like stealthy attempts at poisoning and then just comes out with it yeah
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obviously I am attempting to murder you so that seems a bit extreme to
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me I mean yeah y but then again like I said I didn't
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have an iPhone when I was young maybe I would have been very attached to it but
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no but I I thought about uh I thought about this scenario and I tried to find an
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equivalent to when I was a a child and I
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remember that I was seriously excited
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for Karate Kid Part Two to be released
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on VHS Karate Kid was my favorite film at the time I was studying karate
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because I wanted to be just like Daniel son I insisted everyone call me Daniel
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Son um and I was very very psyched about the second film now I can't remember
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what I did but it must have been awful because during theek
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that it was released at the video store my mom punished me by disallowing me to
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see Karate Kid 2 my God and I was lied
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and I remember Bing my eyes out and
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begging my mom to reconsider but as anyone who knows or knew my mom can tell
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you she she didn't make threats she she made promises so um so you were not
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going to see that mie you still haven't seen still haven't seen it I have got no
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idea what happens no I there was a certain embargo time on it it was it was
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a week or a month or something but uh it was Agony it was absolute agony
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especially since all the kids at school were talking about how great Karate Kid
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2 was how much better than Karate Kid 1 it was is that the one where he goes to
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Japan and he learns to fight like a little drum yeah yeah hour great mov learn is a great
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movie yeah he wants to yeah and he get he does a Japanese tea ceremony yeah
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that's right and he swings the crane at him the the the py thing at him yeah yep
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classic watch that after this I really want to watch that now too in fact I
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think I went I think I saw that at the movies when it came out actually well
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[ __ ] you because I wasn't allowed so I'm trying to think I mean I
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was very angry at my mom and I was embarrassed at school not being able to
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talk about it in fact I think I even went as far as pretending I had seen it
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H yeah so nobody could accuse me of not having that's something a child would do
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did you did you try and poison her but I didn't try to kill her no with poison or
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any other method interesting
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well Luke okay let's just say all right I've worked out what I would do I
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wouldn't just take the iPhone I would also sell the iPhone so she couldn't
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have it I mean how would you murder your all you've had your iPhone taken and you
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want revenge I assume you know the bleach isn't going
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to foer so what do you do yeah you don't put bleach in and then you don't admit
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it after Adit it just like yeah I'm trying to kill you that's you better off
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to actually not try to kill because I don't know at the age of 12 my mother
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did a lot for me didn't it just Supply me with phones she provided me with food
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somewhere to sleep all these stuff do I think killing her might take away from
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that so I would actually try to get renge on her would maybe just try to get
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a new phone from somewhere else how hard is it to get a phone now you can buy him for 50
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bucks you can bypass the um the M man is what you're saying
31:09
right I know it's not really telling someone how to commit a crime but no cuz
31:14
you basically just said she should get a black market phone no I'm she can go and
31:19
buy one like you can buy not an iPhone an iPhone is
31:24
$1,000 well okay well she can I mean you don't know what it's like like it high
31:28
school man if you don't have the iPhone if you haven't seen karate kid [Laughter]
31:35
2o then yes I maybe going get maybe get one on the black market I think it's a
31:40
smarter move than to try to kill your
31:44
mother all right reducing the risk of getting an update down the track one
31:49
would assume because what's going to happen like she's going to have to do
31:52
time for this is she not like this happened in America well she's 12 so
31:57
probably not this is America she'll do time no you've got the right to bear
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arms in America I'm pretty sure you're allowed to kill anyone you want yeah
32:04
it's in their constitution I think bleach C's arms yeah no I mean I you
32:10
live with three Americans now right yeah I do I mean are they just trying to
32:14
shoot each other constantly that's what I assume it's Madness in here how do you
32:19
sleep with the gunfire going on oh I have your plugs obviously yeah you know
32:23
what maybe you can't hear them over um all of our free healthare
32:29
yeah yeah that is likely when I found out that the Americans are literally
32:34
protesting because they didn't want free healthcare I was like you guys are
32:39
[ __ ] you guys are all kinds of [ __ ] well it's just different I don't
32:45
want politicians telling us when we can't urr see a doctor they're not telling you that
32:51
they're say you can if you want to and it won't cost you money
32:55
anymore you can afford to too they don't like change and they don't like having
33:01
to ask no they do not they don't want Obama asking questions of their
33:07
doctors yeah cuz you know I hate it when um when I've just come out of the
33:12
doctors and then I see Obama in the wedding room going what' you go in for
33:15
and I go I'm not going to tell you and he goes doesn't matter I'll just go and
33:17
ask the doctor and he'll tell me he goes well I don't even have to ask the doctor
33:21
I'll just ask the NSA yeah D of my life Obama [ __ ] and stop
33:26
trying to give me free health yeah thanks
33:31
Obama a lot of that going on in the house yeah thanks Obama also everything tastes like
33:37
pumpkin yeah well you you like pumpkin so I do I do I'm not complaining I found
33:43
out I like pumpkin a year ago really was that before half you ate your first
33:50
mango that was before my first mango which do you prefer I think I
33:55
prefer pumpkin yeah yeah good call Big did you eat it as a dessert or
34:01
a Savory foodp like a dinner oh yeah P soup delicious yep yeah looking forward
34:07
to as much as I'm sure everyone's enjoying multiple pumpkin
34:11
gasm we can move on to something all right how about uh how about a South Korean [ __ ]
34:18
Dan yeah sure why not
34:22
um in South Korea uh shares in condom
34:28
uh companies have just gone through the roof uh following South Korea's decision
34:34
to decriminalize adultery was it illegal like it was
34:39
actually illegal it was made a crime in
34:42
1958 H and um up until this year um right nearly a thousand people have been
34:48
charged over the years Jesus um with [ __ ] about so everyone was too scared
34:53
to do it so uh now that it's legal uh uh
34:58
they're [ __ ] going for it and K has turned into a veritable [ __ ]
35:05
fest although I suppose it makes sense like it it just sounds strange to me
35:11
that I don't know I guess cuz it's not illegal to do that here it's just not
35:14
you just well yeah it's never been illegal for us it's not
35:18
encouraged it's not encouraged it's not very nice but it's proba we would never
35:21
do but we've always had the option there yeah we never grew up time where we
35:26
weren't allowed to option to fall back on yeah yeah I mean yeah Jenna could
35:32
kick me out but she couldn't call the police that's right yeah I wonder if
35:39
it's the actual reason is that people are buying the condoms is um that fact
35:43
that they are allowed to do it now or is the fact that they're not afraid of
35:47
getting caught with them now cuz I'm just in my head that maybe
35:51
people were still going out and doing it but they didn't want to use condoms
35:55
because well if I get caught with a condom my partner will know I'm doing
35:58
something but if I don't have a condom she can't suspect
36:02
anything would you just carry them around with you think you need to play
36:06
the jingle again because Luke's really gone to town on this
36:11
one while the other brothers are doing listen up it's
36:16
CRI so you're saying just just pull out
36:21
if you're going to cheat in Korea just withdraw up until now because now it's
36:25
legal it's fine you can have the condom and yeah it's not much as a steamer cuz
36:32
yeah like if someone if your mate want to see with a condom he's not going to
36:35
automatically think you're cheating now or anything like that or report why
36:39
would he before you you don't have that fear of being reported to police anymore
36:43
if someone SE what do you mean he why are you saying he I don't understand what's that
36:49
mean oh I think I understand but like before right if
36:56
before when it was illegal you on you that would if Jenna caught me
37:01
with a cond number four she would have been like what's that for whereas now
37:05
it's it's not illegal so she'd be like well it's perfectly reasonable for GU I
37:10
can't criticize you for cheating on me now anyone saw you with a condom even if
37:14
you someone like someone saw you buying condoms they I just got sitting on the
37:18
table with my phone when I went to [Laughter] dinner so but I'm saying if someone even
37:24
saw you buying condoms and they knew you were with someone else they might you
37:28
might get reported so that that's why they might have under the risk of buying them buying
37:33
condoms why do they sell them then this is like some orwellian Society
37:39
where citizens are encouraged to dob each other into is this just because
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Luke do you is do you think only people
37:45
who aren't married use
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CS is that what this is who uses them
37:55
apparently gays and junkies eyes assume yeah you pop them on the needle that's not a
38:01
crime no you wear them while you're shooting up
38:07
yeah all right maybe I didn't think it through it makes sense in my head
38:10
somehow though no that's
38:15
fine well what we need to do is actually find another country where adultery is
38:20
illegal wait until we think it's about to become legal again and we buy stocks
38:24
and condoms over there genius genius do we have a jingle for Luke
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plays the stock market he plays the stock
38:37
[Music] market he plays the stock
38:44
market do you think condoms are illegal on corusant um no I think they're
38:51
incouraged because of all the different species of uh humanoid alien that had be
38:56
[ __ ] each other I mean God knows what they be catching off one another yeah
38:59
but I mean if I recall they made it pretty clear back when um when nights of
39:04
the Old Republic came out that they don't have any you know kind of
39:07
homosexual uh characters there none of that exists in the Star Wars universe so
39:11
maybe they don't have as many issues with with you know um sexually
39:15
transmitted disease yeah yeah yeah so maybe that's not an issue you know well
39:19
I don't know I mean if if there were any lesbians we could uh we could see if
39:22
they use Dental dce also I just realized that uh that I am implying that only gay
39:28
people get AIDS yeah so we can move on quickly as far as I know that's that's
39:32
the case yeah no that's before I put my foot fur celebrities have died of AIDS
39:38
and have been straight Leonard Nimoy um Neil Armstrong Neil Armstrong
39:44
Tony Scott
39:48
yeah uh Malcolm Frasier former prime minister of Australia who passed away of
39:53
AIDS during the week Johnny Cash
40:00
Y and uh and uh Eddie Murphy Eddie
40:05
Murphy wait Freddy Murphy Freddy no Eddie Murphy it was Eddie Murphy Yeah
40:09
Eddie Murphy well anyway that was attempting I was attempting to Segway
40:13
into um into the article about the um the gay Star Wars character so does
40:17
someone want to run me through that because uh it it's
40:22
interesting but I feel like there making a big deal out of it
40:28
but also trying to pretend that they're not making a big deal out of yeah I
40:31
think anytime anyone comes out and goes not that we're making a big deal out of
40:34
this but uh somebody's gay and uh we don't care so you know we're not going
40:40
to we're going talk about it in the media yeah like to come out and announce
40:44
it is you mean it's you think it's a deal if you didn't you would have just
40:48
written this book and yeah cuz the book's not even released yet so just to
40:54
clarify this is um part of the million books that are coming out this year of
40:59
the um Star Wars Star Wars kind of now
41:05
rebooted the universe type of thing yeah canonical reboot and there's a character
41:11
who is a Jedi is she I believe there an
41:18
imperial right an imperial named Moores and uh she's described in the
41:24
book as quote an imper made some very
41:28
serious mistakes who happens also be a lesbian yeah look I mean I I really hate
41:35
the phrase also happens to be a lesbian but um in the same way as I mean you
41:41
wouldn't you wouldn't say that someone just happens to be black would you no
41:45
probably not so look I mean I definitely don't have a problem with the fact that
41:52
there's a as you have to say now
41:56
lgbtqi car character in Star Wars mhm because I don't give a [ __ ] Star Wars
42:02
isn't about sex or sexuality or even gender really I mean kind of is and
42:06
there's only like three women in the Galaxy but you know I mean it never
42:10
really came into it I wasn't I wasn't watching Star Wars as a kid going I
42:15
wonder if any of these characters are gay no and to to shoehorn a gay
42:20
character in and not just make that part of the story but to have to actually
42:23
point out in the text by the way she's a lesbian yeah well this is the thing about it is
42:29
is this is the first Star Wars character that's being introduced into cannon that
42:35
is lesbian yeah there's been other in before everything was kicked out like n
42:40
Republic and the legacies of force novels there were gay characters which
42:43
no one made a deal about they were just in there as part of it and that everyone
42:48
just moved on that now they've come out with the new one they gone by saying
42:52
it's not a deal they're making it a deal and I don't know yeah because they said
42:57
um that in the in the press release they said at the same time oh you know we
43:03
just didn't really think it was a big deal so we just made a lesbian you know
43:06
cuz really who cares cuz people can be whatever they want um so why is there a
43:10
press release about you don't need to announce that like the book's not even
43:13
out yeah if this was a if people were discussing this after the book came out
43:17
so be it people making their if you didn't think it was a big deal you
43:21
wouldn't have felt it was worth announcing yeah so and again like I
43:26
think it's great but they're being a bit disingenuous about it and also yeah it's
43:30
not it's not here's the thing though you can't really win and we've discussed
43:34
this on the podcast before what's worse shoehorning in a minority character so
43:40
that they're represented or completely having your Universe be void
43:45
of minorities I think it's sort of even okay to actually even put the character
43:49
in and even have to shoot haunt a bit but you don't need to announce it you
43:53
don't need to look we're being nice we're being good to this demographic no
43:57
yeah that's what it is isn't it it's like look how great we are we put a
44:00
lesbian in Star Wars yeah I know I mean yeah it's like it's like the female Thor
44:05
it's just designed to get the points black Spider-Man which I love when the
44:10
headline for Spider-Man came out earlier this year it was Spider-Man may not be
44:16
white and I think that was just their way of not having to say may be black
44:20
and offending someone but somehow that just sounds worse like he's not white
44:26
like the only color you should ever be no this is where I think like they need
44:30
to stop making these big announcements like that and then just it just gets
44:34
released and that's how it is yeah yeah exactly and then let the people get you
44:40
know if they want to make a big deal out of it let them do it just ignore like
44:43
cuz that's the only way you should deal with anything like that just don't put
44:48
it into literature Comics movies and all that but don't announce that hey look what we're
44:53
doing yeah I just don't cuz like I said I wasn't there was a while ago when they
44:58
there was a whole big kafuffle about the knights the old Republic's uh admin on
45:03
the Forum saying stop talking about gays there are no gays in Star Wars and this
45:09
was an unofficial forum and everyone was like are you [ __ ] serious yeah and
45:13
like this guy uh represented BioWare at the time I think and it caused a big
45:17
stink so I'd say this is probably because of the bad vibes that that
45:22
generated but really I mean did you guys even know that that had happened only
45:27
because years years ago no I remember when it happened but only because I
45:30
think I discussed it with you yeah probably I mean it's not general
45:35
knowledge so was that the M like you said yeah yeah yeah yeah was that the
45:39
same Star Wars MMO where there was a protest and everyone marched on sub
45:46
square and corusant so they sent the troops in and just massacred all the
45:50
peaceful protesters there was that was different that was galaxies and they um
45:54
they also teleported them into space but to be fair because we're crashing
46:00
the servers right yeah that's right they said look you're causing like issues the
46:04
game is now on playable for other people and if you don't
46:08
disperse yeah exactly so they just teleported them all into
46:12
orbit and killed them so I like this commenter um on this article has said um
46:18
I think it's great they're including a lesbian character but moth Moos you
46:22
kidding me I can already hear the jokes moth diving yeah
46:27
should have just made her a Wookie lesbian and named a chew
46:32
boxer I'd watch that yeah look speaking of
46:38
gays um did you guys read this weird [ __ ]
46:44
that James Franco came out with this week I didn't I just saw it in the
46:48
spreadsheet earlier yeah so um look there's been gay rumors surrounding just
46:53
about every Hollywood actor you know and James Frank was not immune to that and
46:59
um apparently he acts a little little camp in real life I didn't know that
47:05
apparently he does according to the internet and so he questions about his
47:08
sexuality have constantly come up he has now
47:11
finally uh come out and publicly given
47:16
this statement he admits that he's gay
47:20
in his art and he says quote I like to
47:24
think that I'm gay in my art but straight in my life although I'm
47:30
also gay in my life up to the point of intercourse and then you'd have to say
47:34
I'm straight so I guess it's how you define gay I mean if it means who you
47:39
have sex with then I guess I'm
47:42
straight so it does and you are by the
47:47
sounds of it I like this quote though in the 20s and 30s they used to define
47:51
homosexuality by how you acted and not by who you slept with Sailors had [ __ ]
47:55
guys all the time but as long as behaved in masculine ways they weren't
47:58
considered gay I think they were
48:04
yeah yeah he's got to be like it's got to be a joke right he's just being
48:10
funny or not I don't know I don't know isn't he just a goofy guy like cuz I
48:16
mean really who cares like isn't that yeah but see this is the thing I
48:19
wouldn't have even considered this like this wasn't even head until he came out
48:23
and did a [ __ ] press conference about it yeah I know but if people are
48:27
hassling him about it I mean this this is a pretty good way to say [ __ ] off
48:31
yeah like cuz I mean really who cares if he's gay like yeah exactly right doesn't
48:37
matter he's a handsome man he can do what he wants and who he wants who he
48:41
wants I mean if he was ugly that would be a problem yeah but there are no ugly
48:46
gays like gays are very handsome no no that's true I mean you couldn't be gay
48:50
and ugly because it just wouldn't work yeah exactly yeah not when James Franco
48:55
is walking around exactly
48:59
yeah well that's gay news for this
49:03
week we going to Jingle for gain use I don't think we
49:08
should well it's unfortunate though then because uh CU here it is you're [ __ ] me
49:15
in the AR all right then all right go you're
49:22
the well I guess that's why they call it gay
49:29
cuz that was the jingle that has to be super
49:34
upbeat 1920s upbeat and it's to sound like an Elton John song it's to sound
49:40
like Sailors [ __ ] each other that's
49:42
not gay man yo ho ho B my
49:49
bum um now we haven't uh we haven't heard from India in a while we haven't
49:55
had any Indian news oh and that's disappointing have they just not been doing anything
50:01
crazy oh they have they have well what are they let's play the uh let's play
50:06
the the Indian news jingle and
50:13
um how welcome to Indian
50:17
news no no no it's India India the
50:22
country I'm sanjit marari and this is India news
50:27
oh how very
50:31
subtle so in in India in a a town um
50:38
biha in uh you know what I the haiper District of biha like you to say that in
50:44
a Indian accent if you don't
50:47
mind ha District of biha in India MH MH I understood it that time I thought so
50:54
CU you actually said it in Indian
50:57
they they go to extremes to to pass exams education is very important in
51:03
India as I understand it yeah but not educating each other not to piss and [ __ ] in the
51:08
streets well they're working on that well yeah go on go on all right let's
51:14
let's say for the purposes of this discussion education is important over
51:17
there I put it to you that it isn't but but let's say for argument sake it is
51:21
well apparently they have a lot of problems over there with students
51:26
cheating because they'll smuggle textbooks and and papers and um you know
51:32
like laptop computers and and you know notes and things in they they find ways
51:37
to get them in there despite security measures right because they're trying to
51:39
crack down on this stuff because you know there there are a lot of people
51:44
there and if you don't do well in school you're [ __ ] I think is basically how it works
51:50
sure so they're taking Extreme Measures to cheat now um now from what I
51:56
understand and there's some video footage of of this happening student
52:00
advisors uh so I guess people involved at the school or um or something like
52:06
that when the students go for the exam the advisers are grabbing the exam and
52:12
then you know like uh smuggling it out and then I guess giving it to the
52:17
parents and then if you watch the video footage the parents literally scale the
52:22
side of the building like three stories to pass no not through to their
52:27
children while they're in the exam and it would be weird if just one person's
52:32
parents did this but the footage shows dozens of parents climbing up the side
52:37
of the school I want to know why they thought that wouldn't be noticed you
52:41
know I know I mean this might be true and that but the only thing I could
52:45
think cuz I mean the the text of the article is obviously in English but the
52:49
the video that's here is not and I was like is this a parody is this like
52:54
nonsense and I'm being fooled here like surely that's not what's happening in
52:59
this video like that is madness yeah like but then on the other
53:04
hand I mean for what I from what I understand I mean they are very intense
53:10
about that stuff like mhm so I don't know but yeah I mean check out this
53:16
video it's crazy if it's if if we've got any Indian listeners which we probably
53:19
don't after I think we would have lost them by now I was going to say after the
53:23
last 10 minutes I'm sure they've all left but um if you do know if this is real um please
53:30
let us know because it's fascinating yeah and if it's not parents climbing up
53:36
to pass notes to their kids during exams what the [ __ ] is this footage of cuz
53:40
there's a whole bunch of people climbing up something cuz I also watched another
53:43
video that actually shows it a bit clearer and it's crazy I just clicked on
53:48
one of the links that was in the video after I watched it and there they got to
53:52
the point where the police are just now standing in front of the windows just
53:55
sort of telling parents to get back I like um the biha education
54:02
Minister PK Shahi told the times of India what can a government do to stop
54:06
cheating if parents and relatives are not ready to cooperate should the
54:09
government give orders to shoot them no is he being is he being random
54:15
or is he actually asking like should the government give orders to shoot
54:20
them I need some should the government give orders to shoot them your accent's
54:25
good it's a little different I'm from the north of India oh I see is
54:30
that what it is yeah H yeah I honest I don't know if he's joking or
54:37
not is there a clean South no no go to India and tell me if there's a clean
54:43
South north east or west map I don't think I'm going to go to India Dan I
54:48
don't think there's anything in India for me you might be surprised man you might love it
54:54
there I don't know why I'm saying it like it's a threat I don't know
55:00
either all right well we've done a lot of news this kind of become um multiple
55:05
news gasm that's all right the news has been good um if you've if you've heard some
55:11
interesting news or you've got any comments or you want to tell us some
55:14
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we're not [ __ ] doing it for free yeah cuz it's like if we start doing them for
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free then it's not very enticing is it yeah so we're going to start doing [ __ ]
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podcasts until you start paying for them that's how it works basically yeah uh I
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think that covers everything if I missed anything no I think you got at all uh go
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buy a t-shirt too actually uh the mailing address we haven't given out if
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you like to send us gifts yep uh what's your address again Luke oh you moved you
56:16
that was very sneaky of you um yeah you gave out your dress and then you moved
56:21
that was maybe a little planned well but what happens now when
56:25
people people are sending cash to us they've gone to the patreon they're like
56:28
I don't have PayPal I'll just send cash to Luke and this is after Luke admitted
56:31
he has got a post office box as well well I can give the parcel Locker number
56:35
but it's I don't have to find it it's a long number give me a second account
56:41
addresses right I'd like to see if anyone would send something to this it is parcel Locker
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100019 9964 the street address is
56:55
302-308 Street South Greenway act
56:59
2900 Australia all right send me
57:05
stuff send dick pics well no just send that to my Snapchat poids oh yeah
57:10
[ __ ] 4 on Snapchat have you gotten any good snaps
57:14
lately no well I only just got my phone back today so I haven't really I don't
57:18
know if what happens if it how long does it stome for cuz I didn't really have
57:23
anything oh uh uh I can tell you it does store them because when I was behind the
57:28
great firewall I got back out and a million Snapchats came through okay well
57:32
once I I have I've sent you some though oh yeah I got a few from you that's why
57:36
I wasn't sure if i' been missing out on any or not right so the listeners have
57:40
been slacking off thanks a lot listeners [ __ ] hell anyway you guys
57:46
want some Billy Corgan news Billy cor of sping pumpkins do I have a Billy Corgan
57:52
use jingle I don't think we really need
57:54
it yeah go something like this Billy C
58:00
news bil s I'm going to stop now no it's I'm just going to make that into
58:10
the Sor I'm going to stop now also is he
58:15
there yeah he's here with me now Billy Billy what do you want to
58:22
[Music]
58:24
know so Billy Corgan um had his
58:29
birthday this week and um and he'
58:34
gathered around with his friends to to winge about how everyone hates him
58:39
gathered around a cake to blow out his candles his birthday cand on his
58:42
birthday cake and um and everyone say imagine him doing that happy birthday to
58:48
you happy birthday dear Billy happy birthday to you and he cracked the shits
58:53
and he said for the last [ __ ] time my name is not
58:58
Billy and everyone went
59:03
what what who is he said I'm a [ __ ] man my name is
59:09
William so they sang it again at his request did this really happen yes
59:15
apparently it did [ __ ] psychopath and uh they sang it again happy birthday
59:20
dear William and we are now to refer to Billy Corgan as William Corgan and
59:25
apparently we were supposed to have done that this whole time he's like I don't
59:30
know I don't think we talked about this and we can look in the show notes I'm
59:32
not going to go over the whole thing but did you see that interview with him
59:34
recently I think I I can't I sent it around it was they've got a new album out the
59:40
Smashing yeah and it was basically the
59:44
the the whole interview is basically how everyone's just [ __ ] [ __ ] because
59:50
there's no way that he's ever made a three star album they're all five stars
59:53
but everyone every review for every album he always gets three stars and
59:57
he's it's basically him sitting there going [ __ ] off you [ __ ] tell me to my
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face that it's a three star album like that's the basically the whole interview
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wow like um he's like got such a chip on his I'll say this if you took the two
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best tracks from everyone of the Smashing Pumpkins albums and put them on
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one album that would be a fstar album but I do tend to agree that most of
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their albums as a whole three stars yeah I mean melany was I mean
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it's songs but it's a double disc filler I know it's got like 50 of the [ __ ]
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things like they're not all good and you can't really I mean he's right in that
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he was very like he he's been very influential and
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like he's very well known and well I know he was still do things though for
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like like everyone in our generation like knows the pumpkins I know anyone
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who dislikes them they just kind I love the pumpkins yeah but they're not I know
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had a new album are we talking original lineup no no no it's just original
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member now is he well I mean he's had several other bands Juan in the meantime
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he's had solo stuff and I do remember when I was working at the record store
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um my manager went to see his solo G he did two nights in a row one at a big
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stadium and the next night was like an intimate guests only thing solo Billy
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Corgan sorry William Coran and um everyone kept shouting out you know
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when when singers sing a song and then in between the songs and that silence
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you yell out what song you want to play next like there isn't already a set list
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well yeah people kept yelling out Smashing Pumpkin songs because that's
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why people know Billy Corgan and that's what they [ __ ] like from his and he
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kept saying [ __ ] sing another [ __ ] well yell out another [ __ ] Smashing
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Pumpkin song and I'm walking off walking off and um such a cry somebody yelled
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out again 19 79 and he walked off he stopped the concert and he walked off
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but not before saying tonight I'm up here on this big stage and I can't get
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down there but tomorrow at the intimate gig that's in the round if any of you
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[ __ ] yells out a Smashing Pumpkin song I'm just going to get down and punch him
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in the [ __ ] face please tell me someone did it and
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he did I wish he did and I wish no look this is just clearly a guy who doesn't
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understand why he's popular no well this interview is basically he's he talks
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about how he stopped doing pumpkins because he felt he wasn't getting the
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credit he deserved right right he kept he he was he was putting out all this
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[ __ ] a grade five-star material and he just wasn't getting the reviews and
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the guy was like but you have all these fans what are the reviews matter he's
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like you don't understand you just don't understand I didn't get the credit I
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didn't get the credit you don't understand so he walked away so he
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walked away from it right and then he said that he he decided it was time and
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he was going to come back and he was going to make another pumpkins album and
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this was going to be it and they were finally going to be forced to admit that
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he is he's the best and he was he was going to get five star reviews and it
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came out and it got the same you know just middling reviews as everything else
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and he was like [ __ ] you nobody understands me yeah so we'll
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link to the article it's it's pretty entertaining right he he's just he's
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just a bit crazy obviously he also he talks us the interviewer tries to get
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him to talk about crazier things like he's really into astrology and stuff and
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like cuz he goes are you still into asy and Billy C goes are you into astrology
1:03:28
and the guy's like not really he goes why the [ __ ] am I going to talk to you about
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it wow I mean you could say that about any Topic in an interview you know what
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I mean um so you're a musician are you a musician no I'm a journalist then why
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the [ __ ] would I talk about being a musician you yeah it's a great interview
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it's very entertaining everything Corgan does is entertaining
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trueth um I uh over the last week and a
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bit I think finally listened to a podcast that a lot of people told me I
1:04:02
should listen to including me including you you were very very vocal in your uh
1:04:08
endorsement although I will admit Matt I was
1:04:12
secretly really worried that you were going to decide to hate
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this why oh we're talking about cereal CU sometimes it's easy to hate
1:04:24
something just because it's popular not you personally but just once you've
1:04:28
heard all the hype it it can be once you see something can be a bit like uh you
1:04:33
guys are dicks for even liking this in the first place and I really wanted you
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to watch this with an open mind or listen to it rather with an open mind
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yeah because I really did think this is a kind of True Crime [ __ ] that you would
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dig yeah no absolutely I did it was it
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was fascinating I don't I mean I I found a lot of people seem to have taken
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different things from it than than I did uh which is fine um but also there are a
1:04:58
bunch of people who have seem to agree with me on on you know it's uh it's a
1:05:03
podcast for those who don't know and everybody I recommend everybody listen
1:05:06
to it because it's really really interesting there was a a girl uh she
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was uh 18 she 18 yeah I think they were
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all 18 yeah uh in Baltimore in the US uh
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and she was murdered um after school one day uh well went missing for months and
1:05:24
then they found her body months later
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and um they after investigating and they
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had no leads until eventually they were led to her ex-boyfriend a guy named
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Adnan Sayed um who is in prison now and
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has been for 15 years for the murder um and the premise the reason for the
1:05:47
podcast is uh friends of him his believed him to be innocent and they
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believed that uh his attorney botched the case and that for you know various
1:05:59
other reasons that there there's a lot of things that don't add up and the case
1:06:03
against him wasn't very strong but it was just you know like a you know it
1:06:06
went a bad way in court and now he's he's in prison um wrongfully
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convicted and it basically proceeds from that premise and attempts to prove one
1:06:19
way or another um if it's not if he did
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it basically um
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and they present uh evidence every week
1:06:30
uh it's it's fairly impartial I think does a pretty good job of being
1:06:35
impartial although sometimes she flips back and forth in her opinions so I guess that's
1:06:39
impartial yeah and I mean it's one of those things I I mean I just listened to
1:06:45
it I didn't look up anything on the internet I just because I knew that I
1:06:50
have a lot of questions about things that I wasn't sure if she was going to
1:06:54
cover them but I wanted to give her give them a chance to do
1:06:57
it um I did the same I held out and then the day it finished I was on Reddit yeah
1:07:04
because I still had a lot of questions about various things and since I
1:07:07
listened to it I've I've discovered that there's things that she didn't talk
1:07:11
about or things that whether intentionally or otherwise she left out
1:07:15
that I think are kind of important and um yeah I mean it's interesting I mean
1:07:20
how do we want to do we want to spoil things or how do we want to handle this
1:07:25
look I think it's what do you think of this cuz I I would love to discuss this
1:07:30
with you okay I think but I think we can either I mean we we'd be tiptoeing
1:07:35
around it or giving out absolute spoilers let's do a special edition
1:07:40
episode a short 25 minute episode or something at some point where we just
1:07:47
deconstruct Cal all right sure we wouldn't we wouldn't be the only podcast
1:07:52
to do that as well as listening to serial I also subscribe to no less than
1:07:56
three other podcasts that discussed serial I you to know Matt that I
1:08:00
listened to these when there was only one actually there were up to episode 2
1:08:04
when I joined in of 12 so I had to wait a week between every episode so [ __ ] you
1:08:09
for being able to binge on these because I would literally be refreshing my
1:08:14
iTunes feed on Thursday afternoons I didn't quite binge because Jenner and I
1:08:19
listen to it together and there's only
1:08:22
uh there's always one day a week we we
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that's right subcribe male
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kimp kimp yeah um no don't do that sorry
1:09:35
I was try those don't stream it Luke's still working at his new
1:09:41
phone um where was I and who killed her and what's a Best
1:09:47
Buy I like that video and she searches on Best Buy for pay for there's no
1:09:52
results she's like damn it yeah yeah um I mean we'll talk about it more on on
1:09:57
our special then I guess but can I just ask do you think he did it look I don't
1:10:02
know if he did it but if he didn't he knows who did and he's lying about
1:10:08
something whether he's lying about whether or not he did it or whether or
1:10:11
not he knows who did it he's [ __ ] lying and by lying I mean he's not
1:10:15
saying anything like look I I agree that you could forget some details of a
1:10:20
certain afternoon if nothing happened that day but ask me about a day where
1:10:24
something significant happened and I'll tell you everything that
1:10:27
happened that day yeah like yeah the fact that he's just like no man I don't
1:10:32
remember what happened that day and they're like well we know you here here
1:10:35
and here because of this evidence this evidence and this evidence he's like no
1:10:39
don't know anything about that yeah like I'm not saying he's a
1:10:42
killer but he knows more about it than he's letting on and I think the same the
1:10:46
same goes for Jay yeah I think so too I
1:10:49
think uh one of the things that um see I've seen a lot of people say
1:10:56
I can't believe he was convicted I can't believe he was convicted well I can
1:10:59
because that's how it work there was there was quite a lot of evidence look
1:11:02
look I do have a theory of whether or not I think he did it but um let's
1:11:06
discuss that on the special edition yeah yep totally and Luke if you've um if you
1:11:12
listen to it and you want to get into it then we can include you on the special
1:11:17
edition if you listen to it and think it's not worth it
1:11:21
then I can do well well he could be on anyway and he could just ask question
1:11:26
make sure because the thing is the danger with this is that's what I was
1:11:28
thinking just when we were going to talk about it the danger is and we've
1:11:31
probably already done it we've mentioned things and people are going to go what
1:11:34
the [ __ ] are they talking about because that's what we do this one and only
1:11:37
listen to it if you've seen cereal yeah okay sure we I was say l Luke could
1:11:42
probably call us on that because he'd be like what are you talking about yeah
1:11:44
well that's cool that's fine well that that could work as well but I reckon we
1:11:47
don't put this out as a normal episode we just go here's an additional episode
1:11:50
bonus episode yeah okay sounds good cool sounds good all right well and on
1:11:54
another note um related I also re-watched I think just because it got
1:11:58
me in the mood for it I rewatched um Paradise L which is the documentary
1:12:02
about the West Memphis 3 they very similar cases aren't they yeah yeah yeah
1:12:06
um I recommend anybody who was interested in serial um check that out
1:12:11
as well it's a documentary from HBO made in the '90s about um if you don't know
1:12:16
who they are it's three uh three kids in West Memphis who were convicted of the
1:12:21
murder of three little boys um and why does just the phrase little boys sound
1:12:28
dirty when Matt says it well I mean it
1:12:33
was pretty dirty what happened so yeah it's a great documentary I mean
1:12:38
it's it's absolutely
1:12:42
frustrating case yeah um yeah and this documentary spawned two additional
1:12:49
documentaries after it that yeah it's got two two direct sequels by the same
1:12:53
people and then countless other yeah like not spin-offs but yeah and then
1:12:59
there was a there was a big there's actually a big documentary called west
1:13:01
of Memphis which covers the whole story but I and I mean if you've only got time
1:13:07
to watch one watch that because it covers everything but I really feel like
1:13:10
if you watch Paradise Lost one two and three you get more of the story and you
1:13:16
you get cuz you get to see it in the stages that it occurred just another
1:13:20
example of everyone deciding we need trilogies yeah that's right well cuz
1:13:24
they film the original one they filmed in the '90s during the court case and
1:13:28
it's got actual all the footage from the the not all the footage but it's got
1:13:31
footage from from inside the courtroom and everything you can see it as it
1:13:34
happened and then the second one is like a follow up from like 10 years later and
1:13:38
then the third one is another followup from from you know approximately 15
1:13:42
years after that and so I don't know I just feel like they told the
1:13:47
story um in a kind of more compelling way because you know when the first one
1:13:52
came out they didn't have all the information they had for the second one
1:13:54
and so when you see the second one and it's more of a oh my God like and if
1:13:57
you've never heard of this and you're wondering why this is interesting at all
1:14:00
the concept is basically it was a small town in Middle America and there was
1:14:06
absolutely no evidence against these kids other than the fact that they were
1:14:10
Goths and so they must have done it hea and and and they they coerced a
1:14:16
confession out of a mentally challenged
1:14:19
kid yeah basically yeah not good yeah anyway yeah definitely I would say check
1:14:25
that out if you're into to mentally challenge kids and young
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