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You Do Know Street Fights Don't Really Happen Anymore, Right? · Yo Gavel Gavel! - Court TV Commentary

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  This is a Bramble Jam podcast this week on your gabble gabble. If your
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  friend loans your money and then steals your girlfriend, you have to pay him
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  back. Judge Mathews is gonna get to the bottom of this quid pro bros.
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  And if you let a friend come and live with you and he just
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  doesn't leave, but then when he does leave he forgets some money, you
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  gotta give it to him. Judge Jerry tells us real people all cases heany
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  we nailed at that time. We did now it. You know, man,
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  what a day a gavel and you know what a little behind the curtains
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  here you are about to go to your first inserts training for the school and
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  I popped him for a gavel re quick, and I think that's what you're
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  gonna need to do. It's a gavel pop. I don't know. I
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  think that's just what you're gonna have to do. You don't have to wake
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  up earlier in the morning or just you know, we could do it.
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  There's plenty of times. Or you could get up early in the morning.
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  I could get up early in the morning. So we real quick, gabbl
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  pop, what's going on here? Hey? You know we're gonna have to
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  get it right, bramblefest. They'll get it right, We'll get it right
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  first. We almost never make mistakes, never but almost never. But in
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  this case we did. Fixing to get ready a quid pro Yeah, I
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  almost not bad. I almost. I thought it was really good all but
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  then I waffled over whether judge matthis if I could throw hose in there somewhere,
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  and I didn't feel like I could judge Mathis was good. Mathis one
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  hundred percent? Would believe me? Man? How are you? I'm great?
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  How about you doing great? I have a judge, Jerry, you
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  have a math I've got a Mathis. Both seem like fun ones. Oh
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  they're fun times. How long was your case watching it? Seven minutes mine
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  as well as a short double seven? So you know that they're good ones.
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  You want me to go first? Go for it, judge Jerry?
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  You know Jerry? Oh, I know, Jerry. No, Jery,
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  Jerry, you know, just broke up fights on stage for years and then
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  decide I'll take this knowledge the law if I can do this, Yeah I
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  can. Yeah, you know it's exciting I just sawn AD, and I'll
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  think I'll do this one next time. I just saw it. Ad.
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  There's a new court show with Kevin from Shark Tank. It's called money Court.
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  Really Yeah. It premieres as we're recording this tonight on CNBC Money Courtney
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  course, So I'm going to give that a try next time. If you're
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  going to record on Thursday, I was gonna do just try to take a
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  dollar from everybody else says dollar per case. Yeah, he says, I'll
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  do fifty cents perpetuity. That's right, but you're guilty, all right?
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  Are we ready to go? Let's do it. I want to introduce you
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  to James Mulhern. James Mulhern, Yes he believe it or not. And
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  I say this knowing the case, and eventually you'll be like, he did
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  this. He is suing uh Betty and Contoy. He's suing her for five
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  thousand dollars, is suing him for four thousand, three and seventy five dollars.
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  Five got it? Are you ready to I have been Contoy and Molhart.
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  That's exactly right. I got a pair of jeans. They're great,
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  like a bad legal team. They do comeing down to Contoy and Molhart,
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  have you been hurting an accident? Can you not afford? George Sink coned
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  Toy and molhert call all ones at a nine. At the end, we
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  did the best one one one one one one nine. James and Betty have
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  been friends for a long time, little did he James Betty and so they've
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  been friends for a long time, way back, even when they were kids,
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  and they've kind of stayed in contact. He ands up, James does
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  marrying her good friends. So they're just connected, I got you. They
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  get a divorce, of course, but they do they do that. They're
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  connected in this way. They hang out all the time with Betty and her
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  husband. Betty and her husband also get a divorced, but none of that
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  is important to this case. He even worked with Betty's dad for a while,
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  so they're just, oh yeah, connection. Yes. So Betty would
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  say at the time that she this all was happening, she would have said,
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  he's a trustworthy guy. So here's what happened. Betty and James were
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  talking one day. Betty is getting ready to have us have a surgery,
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  okay, and there were some things that she wanted to get done around the
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  house. But she, you know, she was gonna have her surgery.
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  She didn't want to let it go. And so she's talking to James,
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  and James is like, well, here's the thing. I also I need
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  a place to stay. Yeah, so how about I'll come down. I'll
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  help you around the house. I'll help you after you have your surgery and
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  and then I can stay at your house. I only have like eight hundred
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  dollars a month. She's like, no, need one hundred and twenty five
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  a week. We'll do a week. So five hund a month. So
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  he's gonna do some work around the house. He's going to pay her five
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  hundred a month, but he's suing her for five grand. Yes. Wow,
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  So you don't see this every day? You sure don't. So uh
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  he ends up. Uh they're they're there. He here's where things get weird.
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  So okay, right before he was supposed to move on down and move
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  in with her, calls her up and says, hey, I fell off
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  a wall. Okay, now I do have a few follow ups there at
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  a wall, you typically, none of which I have answers to fall off
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  Like a ledge, A wall is just straight up and down. Fell off
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  a wall and I I won't be able to help for a while, but
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  I do still need a place to stay. And so she says, okay,
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  as long as you can still pay, no problem. So he shows
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  up full body cast. Are you serious? She says, full but who
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  weild him? Man? I don't know. She shows up full body cast,
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  no, and he's like, and she realizes this is going to be
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  a lot. Now, this is a weird case where he's suing her,
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  but she's doing the bulk of the talking. Yeah, he's not really,
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  he's not really saying a lot. I I thought for sure for a while
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  they had just had like swapped places, but no, so uh, he
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  starts. She starts to realize this is going to be kind of an ordeal
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  at this point. And so the plan was for him to just stay,
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  like, you know, a month or two, a few weeks, do
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  the things. He ends up staying for thirty five weeks. Okay, all
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  right, so like nine months? Yeah, eight months? Yeah, long
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  time, long time, longer than they had plants, does not do any
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  work? Do you pay her five hundred dollars a month? Does not pay
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  her any month? And he's suing her. So he ends up getting kicked
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  out after thirty five weeks because Betty's daughter's there, Betty daughter, Betty Betty
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  daughter, I am Betty Betty daughter. Betty's daughter comes up and it's like,
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  you know, we started noticing a few weeks in that James was always
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  drunk, and now this is an issue because Betty James is doing Betty and
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  though still right, okay, Betty told James, you can come in one
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  hundred and twenty five a week, but I got a few rules. One
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  no drinking, no drinking, no drugs, no drugs, and no having
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  people over. So he Wow, this is like a monastery. The rules
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  were strict. Now they started to realize that James was always drunk. They
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  bring in a few pictures and videos of him being passed out on the side
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  of the road. This happened in seven minutes. Yeah, wow, being
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  passed. There were some weird cuts, so maybe they cut a thing out
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  or two. I don't know, but uh, but they claim on the
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  YouTube that's the full cases. I don't know. It was a short boy.
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  He's drunk on the side of the road. They show a couple of
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  videos of him just like slurring words at one point. In one of the
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  videos he's talking to Betty. Betty's like, I know you've been drinking.
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  And he's like, what about you? And she's like what about me?
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  And he's like, I saw you drinking and she's like, oh, drinking
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  iced tea and he was like and she's like, just ce tea. And
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  then he's like all right, all right. And then and then and then
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  she's like, I know you were drinking and he was like, yeah,
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  vodka that your daughter bought me. Oh and and after this video, James
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  pipes up and says, Betty's daughter has been buying me alcohol on the regular.
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  Now we don't dive into that information. We don't do even Betty,
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  Betty's daughter is kind of like, no, no, no, very odd
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  odd. How have we gotten this far? And I don't know why he
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  is suing her? So he gets kicked out. And it's at this case,
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  at this point in time, that James realizes that he, at some
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  point in times, placed his five thousand dollars that he has barely Apparently he
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  like, you know, puts five thousand dollars under a mattress or something,
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  I don't know, but he figures out I have left my five thousand dollars
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  at Betty's. He claims he had exactly five thousand dollars in cash, which
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  happens to be the maximum for Judge Jerry, it does. And he took
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  it to this house even though he could only ford one to twenty five a
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  week. Yes, and he put it somewhere and just left it. He
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  forgot it on his way out. He was kicked out. He was dollars,
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  was forced out very quickly. Didn't have time to believe doing this right
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  now, what's the countersuit for? So the countersuit is for I should have
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  a judge. The countersuit is for the one twenty five a month he didn't
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  pay for thirty five weeks week for thirty five week yeska, right, he
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  didn't pay it. Does he admit he didn't pay it? Uh? There's
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  uh. He doesn't really say much of anything. But what he does say
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  is, we never had a written agreement. Okay, we talked about it.
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  I didn't sign anything. She didn't give anything in court that they had
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  an agreement for one twenty five a week. Does he get that? He
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  just says that we never signed anything and so uh so so early he is
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  missing his five thousand grand, five thousand grand, five thousand. That's a
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  lot of money, five thousand thousands. He's missing his million dollars, but
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  I wouldn't put it. That'st this guy all cash under his bed, everything
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  in front. He's missing his five grand. She just wants, you know,
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  the thirty five weeks worth of one hundred and twenty five dollars four thousand.
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  Weird about this case to me is that she would have never brought him
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  to court. It doesn't seem like it. It seems like she was fine
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  without the forty eight hundred and then he was like, you stole five thousand
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  dollars. For the life of me, I can't figure out why this guy
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  decided to bring give nothing, get out. It's a give nothing, get
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  out situation. It is a give nothing, get out situation. No evidence
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  was brought by either person showing either A you had five grand to begin with
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  or B you didn't have written agreement, therefore astounding waste of seven minutes.
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  It really was. But but I got to see Uh got to see James
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  Uh accuse Betty's daughter of buying alcohol with alcohol. Yeah, as she does.
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  That was fun. Wow, that's it. That's judge Jeriow boy,
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  we did it. Hey, I know you kicked me out. I'm under
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  I know I didn't pay you. I didn't have the money for thirty five
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  weeks. I have left an exact amount in your house, and that exact
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  amount is ruffles papers five thousand dollars. Like, if you're trying to get
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  money out of a court show, don't go for the max. I think
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  it's rule one, right, like say it's like thirty one hundred and seventy
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  five dollars. I was keeping track, like, do that, then maybe
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  you'll get paid. It's ridiculous. You want to go into the mathis Chambers
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  what? I just want to do some quazza too too. What's happening now?
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  I was thinking maybe like the eight the five thousand, like he says,
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  I only get eight hundred a month, and so maybe the eight hundred
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  a month he was gay week eight months. That's seven thousand if he did
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  that, sixty four hundred eight. Yeah, you ready for mathos, I'm
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  ready. So let me introduce you to Terrence Ray the second and Raymond Bowen
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  the third. I'm not making neither one or junior one is Terrence Ray the
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  second with two Roman numeral eyes out there, Raymond bow and the third with
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  three Roman numerals. There's nothing you can do about that. There's nothing you
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  can do. These two look like third high, you know, these two.
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  And I hate to bring what people look like into this into the chambers
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  here, but I can't. They couldn't look like they're more different people,
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  uh, Terrence ray the second is a short, stocky African American man who's
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  wearing a nice V neck sweater and he's a sensible pair of slacks. He's
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  probably thirty five years old. He strike you as somebody who could serenade you
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  with a song. Yeah, yeah, he does. He's maybe five to
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  two five teens. This is a small fella, Raymond Bowen. The third
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  is big. Is a tog drink of water. Okay, white as a
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  paper plate. Beard, looks like he just woke up for court. Purple
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  arm cast, bright purple. It is a cast on his arm from elbow
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  to hands. Personal it is bright purple, like he wants to draw attention
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  to it. He walks into the court. How tall would you say he
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  is? Well, it's tough because it depends on how short tears. There
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  is at least a foot Between the two of them, they look like they
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  would not have met in under any circumstance. Terrence ray the second is swing
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  Raymond bow in the third for thirty eight hundred dollars Raymond bow and the third
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  counter suing for fifteen hundred dollars thirty eight hundred for the first thirty eight hundred
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  and fifteen eighteen hundred. So so the short fellas suing the guy with the
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  cast for thirty eight cast guy is suing him. And if you think the
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  cast has anything to do with this, you're gonna be sorely disappointed. My
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  man just chose purple. He just chose it. He didn't know he was
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  going to court, and he was like, I'll take bright purple. That's
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  what happened here, Terrence. Terrence starts off and he says, listen,
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  we've been best friends pretty much. Raymond's pretty much like a little brother to
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  me. We've been through a lot together. Was not little, yeah,
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  he says that, and then he says one time I saved his life,
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  and Mathis is like, we got seven minutes. I need to hear about
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  this. So he says, well, Raymond and I went to go to
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  watch a street fight, and pretty much it went bad. Pretty much it
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  went bad went bad. The friend of ours that was supposed to be in
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  the street fight, so apparently they were supporting a friend who was going to
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  be in a street fight just up and left in the middle of it.
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  And this is happening, I believe in twenty twenty, twenty nineteen, like
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  it's a new case. It was posted sixteen hours ago by judge Maths.
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  Are there people in the stands in the Yeah, there's people in the crowd,
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  so who knows. So the guy who was supposed to be in the
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  fight as a friend of ours, he just up and left in the middle
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  of the street fight. So all the tension got brought on me and Raymond.
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  So they had a third guy who just up and left and in the
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  middle of us, well, street fight. The guy was supposed to be
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  the guy fighting. They were just gonna go watch. I think it was
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  a like i'll see you after, you know, at night at this time,
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  like a fight club. Yah, yeah, yeah, Well they were
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  mad at each Other're gonna settle it on the hardwood, going on the asphalt
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  or wherever. And he says, the guy just up and left in the
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  middle of the street fight and all the tension got brought on to me and
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  Raymond. At this point, the camera goes to Mathis. He is making
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  a face that I can only akin to Michael Strahan's face in Our Deck the
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  Hallmark opening credit. Yes, he's like this, just disgusted. He's just
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  like he doesn't know, like and then and then Terrence says, at one
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  point, I had a gun to my neck. Wow. At this point,
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  Mathis says, what city are you from? And he says Columbus,
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  Ohio, And he goes, you do know that street fights don't really happen
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  anymore, right, you know? And then Mathis goes on a rant and
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  says, you know they now they dump guns into the inner cities and it's
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  not a street fight anymore, you know. That's how it goes, right,
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  And Terrence is over there just saying yes, sir, yes, sir
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  the whole time. And then he says, sorry, what And then he
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  says, you can't even talk a lot of stuff these days, let alone
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  put your hands on somebody. That's what Judge Mathis says. I think he's
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  saying, back in his day, you would run your mouth and you'd settle
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  it. On the hardway. You'd handle it like a man. That's right.
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  And now the gun, it becomes violent really quick. I see what
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  he's saying. It was a little baffled by the they dumped gun. Yes,
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  so you saved his life. You got him out of the street fight.
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  And he said, yeah, after all that, our bond became stronger.
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  Our we each have sons. They're one month apart. Wow. And
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  at this point Mathis should dive into why he's suing for thirty eight one hundred
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  dollars budd He doesn't what minute are we in. We're in like minute three,
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  and Mathis goes, let me hear from you, sir. He goes
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  to the other guy, the plaintiff doesn't ever tell why he's suing, doesn't
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  ever say it. We're halfway through the case. All we've heard, we
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  never find out why he's singing. We're getting there, okay. So then
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  he goes to Raymond, and Raymond goes, look me and Terry go back
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  a long way. Terry he's like a big brother to me, even though
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  he's a foot taller than Terry. It's wild. And he actually loaned me
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  some money. And at this point, over halfway through Mathis goes, oh,
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  yeah, that's right, he's suing you. Hold on, let me
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  go back and see why he's suing you. Mathis is just in his own
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  way. He was on it today. Yeah. So we go back to
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  Terry or Terrence. He goes, we did the backstory. Let me tell
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  you why you're suing. He said, well, Raymond came to me.
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  He said he needed a car, he needed to get around, he needed
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  to provide, he needed to work, and he needed a loan. And
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  I did what I could. He's my little brother, like I did what
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  he could. I could. I got four thousand dollars in cash. That's
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  how much I could afford. I gave him four thousand dollars in cash.
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  Wow. Mathis said, how long did you give him to repay the money?
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  He said, well, he had a job. He got paid every
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  two weeks. I said, give me two hundred dollars every two weeks,
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  more than more than fair. One hundred bucks a week. That's all he
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  was having to pay. Was gonna ta him forty weeks to pay it back.
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  He said that was fine, amazing. Yeah. So Mathis says,
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  they don't. So he says, two hundred bucks away every two weeks.
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  Mathews says, they don't have buses in Columbus, Ohio, Terrence not Raymond.
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  Tarrence said they do, but it just takes hours to get anywhere.
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  Mathis says okay, and Terrance says he's my little brother man, like I
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  wanted to help him out. And Matthews says this, which is one of
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  my favorite lines ever. I wouldn't loan my little brother four thousand dollars right
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  now and I can afford it. I don't know. I mean, is
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  mathis that much of a cheap skate? Like Maths is wrong? Like what
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  do you calm down? Mathis? That's a weird Uh. I wind take
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  a stand and do an act of kindness for a dear friend in need,
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  and I've got the money to do it. That's what he says to Terrence.
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  Now he turns to Raymond, and Raymond, is he gonna hold that
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  again? Stuff? Apparently? Well, Raymond, it mints that he loaned
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  him the money, and it mints that the two hundred dollars per two weeks
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  was the agreed upon price and minced it in the court, and then he
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  paid the first time, and then he stopped paying. Hence the thirty eight
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  hundred dollars he stopped paying. Well, you said you agreed to it.
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  Why did you stop paying? Raymond says, I found out after my first
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  payments that Terrence was messing around with my girlfriend. Whoa whoa, whoa whoa
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  whoa. I forgot about that. So Mathis at this point doesn't quid pro
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  bro quipro bro. Mathis does a bit here. He starts accenting little brother
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  and best friend. He does a best friend. He does it real high.
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  He's like your best friends, like your best frien. How could you
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  do that to your best friend? Like? It's a full bit. I
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  still don't know how all this happens in seven minutes. Does Terry ever talk
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  about it? Harry is silent, just like he never We're getting there,
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  Mathis says, all right, keep going. He said my girlfriend was really
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  distant. We weren't going out as much. I checked her Facebook messages.
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  On Facebook message her and Terry talking back and forth. We got drinks,
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  this, this that talking. It's clear. I go and confront Terrence about
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  this and he said yes, no remorse on his face and didn't care.
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  Oh, Matthis says, So that's what happened to your arm. Then you
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  punched him in the face, broke your hand. He says, no,
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  sir, I can't. Even with the casts, we never find out.
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  He just chose purple, That's what he did. I chose purple. I
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  got up. I'm gonna grown adult, man. Let me give me a
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  bright knee on color. Please? And uh, he says, Terrence,
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  what's going on here? And Terrence says they were broken up at the time
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  for months. Is what she told me. She came were on a break.
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  That's right, they were on a break. And Math says, I
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  thought y'all were best friends. Yeah, I thought you were best friends.
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  If you're best friends, you didn't say, hey, man, your ex
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  just hit on me. Uh, you didn't say, hey, I'm thinking
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  about dating your ax. Got it. You got to run it by the
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  guy to do that at all. You just kept it from him. He
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  goes, Yeah, I kept it from I didn't think it was important.
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  Why it's brutal is another one? Why best friend? Why you goes,
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  so you're suing fifteen hundred for emotional distress, so you don't think you need
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  to pay the loan because he goes, and basically he says, look,
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  I don't need a friend like that in my life. He's gonna take my
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  girl, like I don't think of that friend. I don't need that girl.
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  I'm just done with it. Like I'm really broken up about it.
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  I'm suing for fifteen hundred dollars emotional distress. Math is ready to rule.
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  Listen. I feel for the guy. That's brutal, that's tough, tough,
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  slug like you gotta ad at the very I am of the opinion that
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  you just don't don't touch that. Yeah, you don't get into that zone.
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  But if you are going to, you gotta run a past them.
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  You gotta un got to run a past to bro So huge party foul,
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  first party foul. So I'm gonna do uh. I think they're both gonna
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  get the money. So he'll get thirty He'll get thirty eight minus the fifteen
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  Matthis says, I feel for you, but unfortunately there is no claim for
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  emotional distress based upon cheating unless you have something else that shows your emotional distress.
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  So you get nothing. He gets thirty eight hundred dollars. Be a
• 22:17
  better friend. He rules for Terrence anyway. And what's wild is he had
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  a cast like he could have he could have done There's so much he could
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  have done there and he just never did. I think that there should be
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  emotional distress for cheating, Like that's a hard thing. That's a tough thing
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  to go to prove it. You have to prove, you have to prove
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  that the person cheating, maybe like counseling sessions or something so where you have
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  to spend the money. I see. I think so anyway, like a
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  better help, better help situation. If you will shout out okay, Como
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  code Gavel or Brainble plus subscribers, that's exactly right. We did man those
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