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22 | Man Lost at Sea for 438 Days Gets SUED for Cannibalism?! · Let's Talk! An Our2Gens Podcast

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Let's talk. Hello everyone, welcome back.
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Hey there. You said hey there, hey there.
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Wow, they deserve more than that.
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They deserve the love. Right.
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What's? Up weirdos.
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Thank you. That's a proper introduction.
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But today, we're going to take it back all the way to 2012,
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just to start off this insane story of a fisherman that was
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stranded at sea for 438 days. He made it back safely.
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Wait. 438 days is so long. Is the longest I think that
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anyone's ever been stranded at sea.
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Like ever. So he's got that record under
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his belt. But the second he came back he
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got sued for $1,000,000 by the family of his shipmate for
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cannibalism apparently. What I need to know what proof
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they had to be like you ate my son.
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OK, and we're going to get into it because I don't even know.
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Like they told the story. He's got a whole book and
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everything, but it's really interesting.
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If we can go to my screen, this is Salvador Alvarenda.
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Please come for me. Like attack me if I got his last
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name wrong. But I believe so.
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He's 36 and he washed the shore in January of 2014 and the
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Marshall Islands after leaving for a 2 day fishing trip.
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Two days, two days, he didn't have enough food.
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He didn't have enough nothing, but he was cousin alone.
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He hired a 22 year old Ezekiel Cordoba I believe.
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Come for me again if I got it wrong $50, which in my opinion
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is not enough for two. Days he paid him $50. $50.00 to
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go on a fishing trip with him and he wasn't even the one who's
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supposed to go with him. He had a friend like a regular.
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He had to back out and so he hired this 22 year old to go
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with him and they were out at sea for 438 days, right?
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They came across a storm and he radioed in and say, Oh my God,
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things are going on, we need help, we need rescue.
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That was the last bit of communication we ever got from
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them. Apparently.
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I think the storm is what knocked out the communication
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system and what took all their food off the boat because I
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think it was like an open. So they didn't even have the
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food they brought? No.
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Oh my God. So they were panicking.
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They decided that they're just going to drift and figure it
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out. So they haunted like birds and
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fish. They drank their own urine and
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sea water and they drank the blood of like what, fish or
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something? Turtles of turtles.
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They drank the blood of turtles. To survive and so they were out
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there just scrounging, making it happen.
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And apparently when they ate one of the fish or one of the birds,
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it made Cordoba, the 22 year old, really sick and so he
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refused to eat the raw meat since then.
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But like that was the only food that they were getting, so.
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He starved to death. Eventually he starved to death,
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but not before he told Avarenza that to like go find his mom and
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tell him what happened and to make him promised to not eat
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him. He made him promise not to eat
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him before he died. OK.
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So that's a very odd thing to be like very specific.
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Did we have a conversation about eating each other beforehand?
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Right. Because yes, I would assume so.
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You're stuck out there that whole time.
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Listen, I love you to death, but I would eat you.
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Oh my God, you already died. That's insane.
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Well, I got a lot of you on my phone, so like, you're welcome.
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You'll last like a couple weeks with me.
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You're welcome, my goodness. But were they like looking at
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each other before they died and looking like it's?
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What I'm saying, and we have to go off of exactly how it
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happened. I did read a really interesting
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thing that he had like a Wilson moment if y'all are familiar
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with Castaway, where he kept his body on the ship.
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For six. Days and talked and talked to
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him and had you know. He had a whole experience with
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him. We're not supposed to be alone.
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No. And he realized he was insane.
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So apparently, allegedly, let's throw that around.
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He he, you know, threw him overboard and was like, I'm not
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going to do this anymore. But According to him, he did not
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eat him. OK, but his family does not
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believe him. Exactly this lawsuit. $1,000,000
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saying that you ate our child to survive.
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I'm not laughing. It's so horrible.
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It's just so ridiculous. Like what?
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How do you know? Did he say something or but also
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like, OK, so he this is when he got back right?
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Cankles still full cheeks still full.
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I'm not saying anything but like.
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You're saying he eat? But he ate well, Yeah.
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He was the guy on Lost, The bigger guy on Lost.
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He was still big. Still big.
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Miraculously, 438 days and he looks like he's been eating
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really, really well. Oh, no, I know.
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And he looks really happy and I'm sure he's got a lot of
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trauma from it. And so it's not right to say
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anything definitively, right? But like what I'm just saying.
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And I really couldn't find anything about the results of
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the lawsuit, like what happened. It was a.
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Drop to right. You know if.
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Anybody's heard about that? Let us know.
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Please let us know because I'm really curious.
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It's like, what evidence did they have to?
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Yeah, Did he actually eat you? You can't, you know, But that's
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insane and I feel really bad for the family.
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He was only 22. It was supposed to be two days.
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It was. Just a little job.
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Clearly for 50 bucks he was just doing something, Yeah.
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And they got lost for more than a year.
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The whole story like stinks, sucks and like you said the
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survivor, he probably has a whole lot of trauma, had to make
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decisions that he's not proud of and and everything.
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I hope one of the decisions wasn't eating.
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Wasn't eating him. But but.
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I wouldn't even OK, can I say something?
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Yes. I wouldn't even blame of if that
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was one of the decisions he made.
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You are trying to survive. Correct.
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Exactly. You people do whatever they need
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to do to survive, yes, so. And he was already dead, I say
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again. I mean.
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It is Yellow Jackets. It is because I understood
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Jackie was in yellow. Jackie was dead.
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Wait. And also why?
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Did they make her seem like she smelled so good?
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Because she was getting baked. Yeah, and the snow fell on her
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and it was just. Like and they woke up in the
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morning and like so I'm smelling good.
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It's insane. So it's giving lost and Yellow
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jackets just a little bit. And so I don't know, like I
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don't know what happened. I really don't.
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But it's an interesting story, it is.
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I know, so I wouldn't blame you bro.
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That's all I'm saying, OK. We are going to switch to my
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screen please. Well, if you have been online at
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all in the past couple of days, you might have heard about the
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story about 100 ducks left for the cleaner in the house.
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I'm going to remain composed. OK.
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We're good, we're good. So if you want to pause and
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read, if you haven't read it, but when?
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The first red flag for me is 2 hour cleaner.
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So you don't know her name is 1 because usually you have the
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same person that comes to your house.
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To our cleaner unless it was like one of those services that
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was like one time higher. After doing a little research,
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it seemed like she had a personal contract with these
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people to clean their home, so they couldn't even address her
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by her real name. When they demanded that she do a
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better job at cleaning their house and for them to help, they
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put 100 teeny tiny little ducks all over left that jar, and she
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had to put all 100 ducks back in the jar before she left, so they
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were ensured that she did a good job cleaning.
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That is so demeaning. That is so demeaning.
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The audacity. Yeah, because like you one don't
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know my name, don't care enough to address me by my name 2 You
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think this is a game? Putting her on 100 little
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duckies? You think this is cute right
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around your house? So I can just like what?
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We're all adults here, if there's something you would like
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me to pay attention to when I'm cleaning.
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Or do better than you. You tell me and you talk about
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it, but you don't put around. Ducks, listen to me.
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OK, I have a problem. This All right, So I there was
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some pictures. Her name is Devin, by the way.
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Devin. I found her on TikTok.
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I like that name. They spent so much time putting
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these ducks all over the house. And there's some of these
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pictures that look quite filthy. Yeah.
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The place is nasty. You could have cleaned your own
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shit by this time. All the time you spent hiding.
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Around your ducks and. Stuff, I mean, just putting the
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duck on filth. It's like to go around it.
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That's wild. Work.
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Oh my God, look at that. And how many did?
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She find Oh my God like 70 of them or something.
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She didn't even find them all. Bless her for.
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Even doing that, because I would have quit the second I saw that
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note the. Second the second.
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Okay, so there was an update which I was really excited
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about. And so Devin did finish the day
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and then she sent them an e-mail basically terminating her
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contract. And she said, quote, after
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finding the note and the ducks today, I want to end the
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contract. I'm here to do my job
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professionally, not to play games or be tested.
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Period. Exactly.
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Yes. Would you like to hear their
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response? They had a response.
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They did if it's. Anything other than I
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understand. I'm about to be real upset right
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now. Oh.
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OK, I honestly thought it would be fun and lighthearted.
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Just a joke the hubby and I picked.
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Sorry to see you go, all the best.
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You see how backhanded that was? Oh.
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My God, just me and the hubby we thought about, right?
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OK, you go pick them up then. And she did, because she didn't
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find them all. Exactly.
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Go pick. Up the rest of.
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Them look at that since it's on the fudge.
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So instead of picking up the sponge and cleaning for
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yourself, you put the duck on this one.
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You see how like absolutely petty this is?
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Backhanded just rude. It's rude.
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But to be like, I don't have respect.
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I don't even know your name. I don't have respect for what
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you do in my apartment, mind you.
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So you know, here, just go do this thing.
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We thought it was. She didn't think it would be fun
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because her note said we want to ensure exactly cleaning.
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This was not a fun little game. No, it wasn't.
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But when I call you out about it, all of a sudden it's game.
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Of course it's a game all of a sudden.
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Oh, I love that. So when I went when I went to
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the TikTok I found a couple comments that I thought were
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hilarious so I would have just spent my time finding them and
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not cleaning. I would have left a note saying
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sorry I didn't get to cleaning as I was too busy finding all
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the ducks you lost that you wanted my help to find.
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Exactly. Exactly.
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You know what? Yeah.
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Absolute facts. Oh my God.
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Because. You gave me an additional task.
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Let's think about that now. Yes, and so I have to stop
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cleaning to pick. Up a duck.
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Exactly. And stop cleaning and walk over
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to the little jar and make sure I don't lose it because those
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things are so. Small, tiny, like she couldn't
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even get like the medium sized one.
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No, she's little teeny. Tiny, I want you on your hands
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and knees scrounging around my my filthy ass house to find
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these for. Sure, they were happy.
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Just the visual of her looking for the ducks, you know what I
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mean? Look what we can get our cleaner
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to do type of thing, you know. So disgusting, isn't it?
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Yeah, it's. You have a disgusting
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personality, both you and your hubby.
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Y'all can kick that. Y'all thought this was fun?
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I mean, adult Mean Girls are not.
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Are not. They're not.
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Cool, you should have grown out of that already, you know.
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So no shout out to her for even finding the ducks.
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I no. No, I wouldn't.
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Have not me. I would have sent her an e-mail
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as soon as I got there and quit. Quickly with a quickness.
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We're then we're done. We're done.
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OK, I'm just that's so irritating and disrespectful and
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I hate her for that. Thank you.
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All right, so to wrap it up all week we have different Reddit
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story times. I have to, my mom has to, so I'm
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going to start with mine. This one is petty and I hope you
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all like it. You guys love Petty.
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Don't even tell me because. You love Petty, OK.
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All right, my Co worker microwaved fish in 2021 and I've
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been signing her up for Scientology newsletters every
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week ever since. Oh my God, if you don't know how
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determined Scientology is, oh, that's a good one.
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They're going to be on her back for forever.
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If you move, they find you. But she said every week ever
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since, so not just one, she is continuing.
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I love it, right love? This girl, Yes.
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She said I work in a small office, like 14 people.
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We have one microwave in a tiny break room with no windows, an
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event that hasn't worked properly since Obama was
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president. In March 2021, a Co worker named
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Linda heated up leftover salmon, a whole container of salmon with
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some kind of cream sauce. She microwaved it for 4 minutes.
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I watched that she punched in 400 like it was nothing, like
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she wasn't about to commit a war crime.
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Listen, I have worked in many offices.
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You do not heat up fish. You do not eat a broccoli you
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don't bring. Tuna and she said 4 minutes she.
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Recooked that shit, yeah. She said the snow lasted 3 days.
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The worst part is that we had clients come in and ask if
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something died. My jacket smelled like fish for
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a week and I had to throw out a sandwich that was in the fridge
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because it absorbed the fish aura.
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It was Turkey and tasted like betrayal, you know, and I took
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that person. Absolutely.
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I complained to HR and they sent an e-mail about being mindful of
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smelly foods. Linda replied all saying sorry
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if anyone was bothered with a :).
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Bothered if bet so. That night I went home and I
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signed her work e-mail up for a Church of Scientology mailing
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list, just to feel something. I like this girl.
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I love her. I thought it would be a one time
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thing, but then I saw how annoyed she got.
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I kept getting these weird emails from Scientologists.
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He told everyone. I don't know how they got my
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info. I noticed sympathetically.
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I signed her up again that night with a different form.
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It's been almost four years and every Sunday night I find a new
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Scientology website or church location form to submit her
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e-mail. Sometimes her work phone too.
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She's gotten physical mail at the office.
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Someone from the church actually called her once and said she and
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she had to explain that she wasn't interested for 20
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minutes. Oh my God, I was eating my lunch
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watching it happen. Your non salmon or a sandwich?
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Exactly. She's complained to IT multiple
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times and they can't figure out how these people keep finding
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her. I have a folder on my phone with
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like 40 different Scientology related sign up pages.
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Bookmark. I find one for a free stress
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test and user info and someone showed up at the office looking
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for her. I almost cried laughing in the
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bathroom. It's getting mean at this point,
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isn't it? She still works here and hasn't
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microwave fish again. But it's not about the fish
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anymore. It's about commitment.
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And I will never stop. Oh my God, when I'm dead, my
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ghost will still be signing up Linda for reading for for E
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meter demonstrations. Anyway, that's my revenge.
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The fish was four years ago. Linda gets emails every week.
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We're both trapped in this. Forever.
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Forever. Oh, I keep getting reminded I'm
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not petty enough. Like, no, I thought I was petty,
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Patty. No, these people are head first.
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It is their full. Time, job.
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They're like, I don't know what it's like to be normal anymore.
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This is what I do. This is my personality now.
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It's part of her routine. Every Sunday, she sits down and
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finds a new Scientology e-mail. This is amazing.
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Amazing. I'm going to use.
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That you know, Absolutely. You know.
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And it's torture because they will never leave you alone for
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the rest of your life. They really won't.
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I used to work with a guy who told me that he went to an event
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and, you know, he wasn't sure. I don't remember if he knew it
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was a Scientology thing, but they got his his address.
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They didn't get like his e-mail or phone number or anything, but
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they got his address and then he's moved three times since
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then and they always find his new address.
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That's, I don't even know how they do that.
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That's. So creepy.
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How do you even find me? Why are you still searching for
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me? I don't.
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Know. If I said no, no.
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No, what are you talking about? This is your eternal soul.
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Well. All right, am I the asshole for
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how I reacted to my friend's religious remark at my mom's
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funeral? Let's get into it, please.
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OK, my 24 female friend, 25 female came to the funeral for
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my mom who died of cancer around Christmas time.
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She came over to give me her condolences and asked about the
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details of how my mom passed. I told her it was my mom's
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second battle with cancer and how she had lots of
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complications. She said, Quote, I'm so glad
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nothing like that has ever happened to me or my family.
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We're blessed and highly favored.
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God doesn't play about us. Oh, so you?
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Told me God just doesn't care about me.
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This made me extremely angry, I said Glad to know your God plays
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about my family and all the other people in the world dying
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of cancer. Exactly.
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Yeah. So you guys are his favorites?
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Oh my God, what? I caused the scene.
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Oh yeah. And you got really upset, she
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and her family said. I'm wrong for attacking someone,
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just being kind and offering their condolences.
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And that's probably why God didn't look after my mom.
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Aw, what did you say? I said I want them gone from the
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funeral. Since then I haven't spoken to
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them or any of the people defending them.
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Am I the asshole? Absolutely not.
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No matter of fact, I'm going to find every ounce of dirt on her
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since we're being petty. Right, we're in the petty field
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right now. I feel like God should know
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about all the things that you've done.
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He want to know. He knows now we need to let the
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congregation know everybody, everybody, everybody is because
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God don't play about you, but he plays about everybody else.
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Apparently you think he's special girl.
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Right, I'm here to. Play.
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Enough of that. Excuse me?
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My God, and to be so sanctimonious and so just rude
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and disrespectful. I was just.
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You know you can. Feel that yes, I'm so grateful
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that's never happened to anybody in my family 100% but why would
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you say that to the person mourning their mother who died
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just a few days ago? Just.
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A few days ago, yeah. That's insane.
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People have a lot of nerve, right?
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Yes. Not kind, not generous, not
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going by what I assume. Are the principles.
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Of that said religion. That part.
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So yeah, that wasn't nice at all.
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Yeah, I. Clutched my pearls when I read
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that one. Like, excuse me, All right,
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well, I don't want to be had any more lies, but I, you know, I
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figured we can do something nice and have a little cute. 1 So I
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have a cute confession here. So it's confession.
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I think I'm falling in love with my husband.
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My husband and I are 24. We've been very close friends
19:12
since we were 14 and have been married for about 5 months now.
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The thing is, our marriage was strictly out of convenience.
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I was a single mom to a one year old.
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His father and I haven't been together since I was three
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months pregnant, and my husband has just taken guardianship of
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his cousin, who's only a few months younger than my son.
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Since the kids are so close in age, we decided pretty much
19:32
immediately to introduce them to each other.
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They've been best friends ever since, and after that my son and
19:37
I were over at their house every day.
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The marriage was purely my idea. My son and I were practically
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living at their house and we had already had a conversation about
19:45
raising the kids together. I figured, why not?
19:47
We get the tax benefits, we combine our incomes, and we, the
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kids would grow up in a two parent household, right?
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I did think about the chance that one of us could find
19:55
someone else down the line and mess everything up, but it
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wasn't high on my radar. I gave up on relationships after
20:00
my son's father and my husband wasn't really the type of
20:03
relationship before we got married.
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I've never really seen him express interest in anyone.
20:08
Ever since I've known him, we've always had a running joke with
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our friends that he'd be the single uncle that one of our
20:14
kids would have to take care of when he gets old.
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Clearly we didn't think that he would be an adoptive father, but
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that's besides the point. Anyways, I brought it up to him
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as kind of a joke one night. I was terrified to be serious
20:24
about it. I don't know why Girl.
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I know why she likes. Me.
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And then we were married 3 weeks.
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Later. Oh wow.
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So quick. Everything happened so fast and
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it's still insane to me because I fully expected him to call me
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stupid for even coming up with the idea.
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I did not expect him to agree and follow through so quickly.
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But that's the long back story on everything so everyone
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understands. The first few weeks of our
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marriage felt like no different than what we're doing.
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The only real difference was that my son and I moved in and
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we were living with them. As of right now, we live in a
20:54
three bedroom apartment. Babies share a room and my
20:56
husband and I share a room. I was.
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It was definitely weird sleeping in the same bed every night, but
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we both got used to it. Eventually.
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After maybe the first month I got too used to it and started
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completely sleeping through my alarms.
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I don't know why, but I started sleeping so heavily that I had
21:10
to be physically woken up. So he feels comfortable because
21:13
I do the same thing. So every morning when my alarms
21:17
go off, I it wakes my husband up.
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He rolls over, rubs my back, and whispers in my ear to wake up.
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Kill. Me.
21:25
That's so cute. OK, for background, my husband
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is a pretty prickly person. He doesn't like physical contact
21:33
with other people. In our entire 10 years of being
21:35
friends, we hugged once. So this with the little eye
21:38
emoji literally rewrites my bank chemistry every morning.
21:43
Even typing this out right now, I'm generally feeling
21:45
butterflies and it's so weird. It probably sounds so stupid,
21:48
but that's not it. Around the same time, he started
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bringing home flowers every Friday night.
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I was majorly confused the first time, but he said he's trying to
21:55
set a good example for what relationships could look like to
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the kids. He grew up with a single mom and
22:00
never met his dad, so he didn't necessarily have a good example
22:03
either. Even though he's using it to set
22:05
an example, it gently makes me so happy.
22:07
Every Friday I look forward to getting home from work and
22:10
seeing what bouquet he got me this time.
22:12
I'm not sure what I'm feeling if I'm just over romanticizing the
22:15
situation and looking too much into things.
22:17
But the past couple weeks I've been feeling like a child with a
22:19
crush. He makes me blessed from just
22:21
looking at me. I've never felt that way about
22:23
anyone before. Now I'm feeling ultra stupid
22:25
because what if I catch feelings and he doesn't?
22:28
Then it's just A1 sided marriage.
22:30
I'm also scared that I'm feeling this way because I've never been
22:32
treated right before in my past relationships.
22:34
Like am I falling in love with him or is it the feeling of
22:37
being treated how I should be right?
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I don't know and I'm confused. I think I'm messed up.
22:43
That OK, So it's like a lavender marriage.
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It kind of. But neither one of them are.
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Are gay No, they just did it for convenience for the kids.
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But she's like, wait, I kind of like.
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I'm kind of loving him. And so she's right.
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And she's so, you know, she's really good at examining herself
23:00
and she's like, am I falling in love with him or with the way
23:02
he's treating me? Because I've never been treated
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well. Exactly.
23:04
And so. I mean, that's so cute, though.
23:07
That's so adorable, isn't it? I need an update in a year.
23:10
Yeah, like. Give me an update please tell me
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you said something or I know it's awkward like if he says no
23:17
then you guys are like stuck. And now you're stuck in his
23:19
marriage and now there's hurt feelings and all.
23:20
Exactly. That is absolutely adorable.
23:24
And he's not falling. In love with him.
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And him not touching anyone and then choosing stop to rub her
23:29
back. Because I get that.
23:30
I'm telling you, when my husband's in the house and I'm
23:33
I'm asleep, but when he's not here, I'm like, did you hear
23:36
that? Hyper aware.
23:37
Did you hear what's going on? I sleep well when he's home.
23:40
Healthy relationships y'all feeling?
23:43
Safe. I'm sure he feels safe with her.
23:45
Right. And then I'm sure they treat
23:47
each other's kids really well. And honestly, I hope the best
23:51
for both of them. I love that it's so.
23:52
Cute. It's adorable.
23:53
I know. All right, our last one is not
23:58
sweet and. I was hoping to keep the lot,
24:01
you know, but never mind, that's fine.
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Am I overreacting? My wife got a 1:00 AM call from
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a guy friend right after a late night cycling trip.
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Nah, man, Nah. 1:00 AM. Late cycling trip girl girl.
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Alright. My wife, mid 30s, and I have
24:22
been married for years, but we're going through a rocky
24:24
patch right now. Lots of arguments, feeling
24:26
distant, that kind of thing. Last night she went out cycling
24:30
for about two hours, which is unusual because it was already
24:33
dark out. OK, it's not.
24:37
Just in her on her bike? What?
24:40
Woman, do you know that go out in the middle of the night to go
24:43
cycling by herself? Absolutely not Really, no.
24:48
So that's a lie. Red flag #1.
24:50
Yeah, let me bring. It out?
24:51
Yeah, bring it out. There we go.
24:55
OK, she comes home, barely says anything and jumps straight into
24:58
the shower. Pick that up.
25:00
No, straight into the shower girl, you're watching the sex
25:04
off. She washing the sex off exactly.
25:11
There's no other way to say it, I'm sorry.
25:14
A little while after she got in there, her phone rings at 1:00
25:17
AM from some guy she claims is an old friend from college.
25:20
I only knew because her iPad synced to her phone started
25:23
ringing in the other room and the call got picked up almost
25:26
immediately on her end, like she was expecting it or something.
25:30
Oh no. When I asked about it later, she
25:33
said who it was and that he was just calling to let her know
25:36
he's visiting soon with his son, but she's never mentioned this
25:39
guy before and she didn't say anything about planning to meet
25:42
up anyone. Given our rough spot in the word
25:44
timing, this feels super suspicious to me.
25:47
Am I overreacting or is this a red flag?
25:49
Nah, babe, Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and announce this as a
25:54
loss for the women on this channel because that's really
25:57
bad and. Yeah.
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Immediately in the shower, babe. Immediately in the shower.
26:07
And if this is a friend of yours from college, why is he calling
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at 1:00? AM at 1:00 AM.
26:13
Nobody better call my phone at 1:00 AM unless it is an
26:15
emergency with family. OK, what?
26:18
OK. And then you rush to pick.
26:20
It up? Yeah, Go cycling for two hours.
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Two. Really.
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I. Am such a girl's girl, but you?
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Are. Killing me.
26:29
There's no. Other way to say it, I'm sorry
26:31
but. You are a cheater.
26:32
Yeah, 100% cheater. You're not overreacting.
26:35
No, you need to do what you need to do for you exactly because.
26:38
Did they mention they have kids? They did not mention that.
26:41
They just said they've been married for years.
26:42
OK, Yeah. Because kids make it hard to
26:44
leave and bro you need to. Leave, just bounce.
26:47
She let her be with college friends cycling.
26:49
Cycling let her pick up those 1:00 AM phone calls.
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Really. Giving me the IT girl.
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Do better do. Better, and that's all I.
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Have. Oh, lovely.
27:01
We did it. All right, y'all.
27:04
We'll see you next week. We love you.
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Thank you. Thank you to our thank you.
27:10
Son, I'm going to say the number because I'm I'm paying attention
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to all of y'all. So 12 of you.
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Hi, I love. You welcome.
27:17
Welcome. We're happy to have you.
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Yes, welcome to the chaos.