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Survivor Reclaims Her Voice & Seeks Truth Despite Grief, Addiction & Institutional Failure (Ep. 365) · Voices for Voices®

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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Hey everyone, it's Justin again, Voices for Voices.
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• 1:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh today we want to welcome to the show uh Bethany.
• 1:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh she's coming to us from Kentucky, Floyd County, uh, which is uh as she mentioned off off camera uh before we got started, just a couple minutes away from Letcher County, which uh you may or may not be uh familiar with.
• 2:09
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's uh uh a case that's that's going on uh the the trial hasn't even even started uh yet, but what we're what we started to find out is the uh the the case uh where uh sheriff Mickey Steins went into uh Judge Mullins' chambers and uh and uh fired his firearm and uh several times and and uh ended up killing uh the judge Judge Mullins.
• 2:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And as time has gone on, uh we have as an organization uh when we first started to be made aware of uh some some taboo, some some things that shouldn't be going on and shouldn't have gone on, and some people have looked away for far too long that we want to make sure that we do the best thing we can and and do the best justice we can for uh those individuals who uh are survivors uh and sharing their story.
• 3:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so, Bethany, thank you so much for joining us.
• 3:30
  Bethany, Advocate: You're very welcome.
• 3:32
  Bethany, Advocate: Um thank you for having me.
• 3:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Absolutely.
• 3:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um I if maybe you you want to talk uh like uh you know growing up and uh what what you had interests and and then you know getting into uh as as things progress, things you notice, things that have happened to you, to others.
• 4:03
  Bethany, Advocate: Okay.
• 4:04
  Bethany, Advocate: All right.
• 4:05
  Bethany, Advocate: Um I've been in Floyd County basically all my life.
• 4:11
  Bethany, Advocate: And uh my dad was uh a great guy.
• 4:18
  Bethany, Advocate: He was a basketball player, he played for UK back in the 70s and uh uh worked for the transportation department for quite a few years.
• 4:28
  Bethany, Advocate: Uh we were very close and uh anyway that he uh he was murdered in twenty thirteen and I've been trying to get justice for him ever since.
• 4:40
  Bethany, Advocate: But um a little bit of backstory on that is uh so growing up, um my mom was horrible to me.
• 4:53
  Bethany, Advocate: Like extremely horrible.
• 4:55
  Bethany, Advocate: And uh she uh was just cruel.
• 5:00
  Bethany, Advocate: My grandmother raised me basically.
• 5:03
  Bethany, Advocate: But when I got to be about twelve years old, I was pretty heavy and she took me to uh the fat doctor and they put me on a drug called fin fin which is like a medicine appeal basically.
• 5:24
  Bethany, Advocate: And um it burnt the the fat off of me at the time, but it was uh only on the market for a very short time.
• 5:34
  Bethany, Advocate: It was an extremely dangerous drug.
• 5:36
  Bethany, Advocate: And uh it they took it off the market within a couple of months and they've never brought it back, you know, uh for whatever reason.
• 5:46
  Bethany, Advocate: But uh then uh when I got to be about thirteen, she was prescribed Xanax.
• 5:56
  Bethany, Advocate: And uh she gave them to me every month.
• 6:02
  Bethany, Advocate: At thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, you know, and I became addicted.
• 6:07
  Bethany, Advocate: And uh that progressed and I I fought addiction for many years.
• 6:14
  Bethany, Advocate: I had a horrible time trying to just come back from that.
• 6:19
  Bethany, Advocate: You know, she sent me down a really dark road and um I'm grateful now that I'm about three and a half years clean.
• 6:28
  Bethany, Advocate: So that took most of my life, you know, but I I'm I'm grateful to be clean.
• 6:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But uh congratulations on anyways.
• 6:39
  Bethany, Advocate: Thank you.
• 6:39
  Bethany, Advocate: I appreciate that.
• 6:40
  Bethany, Advocate: Um in about 2007.
• 6:49
  Bethany, Advocate: 2007, I had my son, okay.
• 6:52
  Bethany, Advocate: My mom wanted to move out of a beautiful three-story brick home that my dad had built her into my grandmother's home.
• 7:04
  Bethany, Advocate: And um looking back now, I'm almost positive she only wanted to do that to get into their financial records, you know, and things.
• 7:15
  Bethany, Advocate: Uh their documents.
• 7:17
  Bethany, Advocate: But um so he agreed to move in and uh then I met, so we were all living there.
• 7:25
  Bethany, Advocate: Oh I met my ex now my ex but so I met Mike, his name was Mike, and uh my mom and my brother knew him very well prior to me ever getting with him, you know.
• 7:42
  Bethany, Advocate: So I got with him in 2012 was the worst mistake ever made.
• 7:48
  Bethany, Advocate: But um anyway, so it was a very abusive relationship.
• 7:54
  Bethany, Advocate: Um in 2013, my dad passed and it was a very awful circumstance extremely um the cops said that it was a suicide.
• 8:10
  Bethany, Advocate: But it was not a suicide.
• 8:13
  Bethany, Advocate: They didn't investigate anything whatsoever, nothing.
• 8:17
  Bethany, Advocate: My grandmother was home that day and she told me over and over, Beth, I heard three gunshots.
• 8:25
  Bethany, Advocate: You know.
• 8:26
  Bethany, Advocate: And uh when she told me that when I questioned Connie about it, she threw her in the nursing home out of her own home.
• 8:38
  Bethany, Advocate: You know.
• 8:40
  Bethany, Advocate: And then she passed weirdly my grandmother in no time in 2014 she passed.
• 8:48
  Bethany, Advocate: It was very odd as well.
• 8:50
  Bethany, Advocate: She was at Pivotal Medical Center when she passed, but it was just very odd.
• 8:56
  Bethany, Advocate: Um and then um after that she uh wanted me to sign some papers.
• 9:09
  Bethany, Advocate: You know, grieving them and was going through a whole lot of things, you know, and I never dreamed that she would um have been so evil, you know.
• 9:26
  Bethany, Advocate: But she said, here I need to sign this.
• 9:29
  Bethany, Advocate: If not, the bank's gonna take the home, my grandmother's home, you know, which they had had for like 50 years or, you know, whatever.
• 9:37
  Bethany, Advocate: And uh so I signed it.
• 9:41
  Bethany, Advocate: And uh later on I found out that I I guess that wasn't what it was really that I signed.
• 9:48
  Bethany, Advocate: She lied to me about everything.
• 9:50
  Bethany, Advocate: I never got a notice to be at probate court after my dad or my grandmother passed.
• 9:56
  Bethany, Advocate: Nobody ever told me anything whatsoever.
• 9:59
  Bethany, Advocate: And they've stolen a legacy, my grandfather's legacy.
• 10:04
  Bethany, Advocate: He uh he sold life insurance for many years and started a couple businesses.
• 10:10
  Bethany, Advocate: Uh there's a a a very well-known insurance company in Prestonsburg still yet today that he was a founding member of, you know.
• 10:23
  Bethany, Advocate: And there was a a lot of money there, you know.
• 10:27
  Bethany, Advocate: And she has stolen it, you know.
• 10:31
  Bethany, Advocate: Um after she tore her house down, she stole the home and then had it torn down uh my grandmother and uh ripped my child.
• 10:48
  Bethany, Advocate: And uh I'm like, you know, I thought she was doing it, you know, I didn't know all, you know, at the time I thought I could trust her.
• 10:57
  Bethany, Advocate: I've just been trying to put this together on my own and had to investigate things on my own.
• 11:02
  Bethany, Advocate: And you know, but uh for years, but I've got so much proof it's unreal of the things I've found, you know.
• 11:11
  Bethany, Advocate: Uh deeds that are falsified and all kinds of things.
• 11:18
  Bethany, Advocate: Uh we did my dad's will, changed my grandmother's will like two weeks before she passed and has gotten by with all the stuff, you know, and my identity's been stolen, uh my inheritance is stolen, my child, my home, my mail, you know, and I've been begging for help.
• 11:42
  Bethany, Advocate: I've been everywhere.
• 11:43
  Bethany, Advocate: I've been to lawyers, cops, judges, and they just basically, you know, they turn me away, you know, and I don't I I'm I need help, you know.
• 11:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So Yeah, and that's where uh that's it.
• 12:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I'm sorry that it seems like every direction at every point in in your life, somebody was there, right?
• 12:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You have people we that we love or thought we loved, and when things happen and don't uh and then to the point of something not being investigated, you know, we look at law enforcement and we wanna believe that they're uh not not that they're always gonna be on our side, obviously if we're breaking the law, but not gonna be on our side, but when it comes to you know a death and and those types of things, that um that they're gonna do the due diligence and and and not try to twist things around.
• 12:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um in and it's just uh what's that yeah, and so for you to share um for you to share your your your voice and talk about after all these years and all these setbacks, I just want to say you're incredibly strong to be able to to do this because trust me, you're you're you're going your your story is gonna be watched, it is gonna be listened to uh across the world, and I can guarantee just about that at least one person, you're gonna help at least one person that's you know been through the the the ringer and might just say, you know what?
• 13:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh you know, Bethany, she she's on this show, and I don't even know how I ended up on on listening and watching the show.
• 13:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, and she got through it, and she's getting through in you know, one minute, one hour, one one day at a time.
• 13:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so I want to say again, just thank you for sharing your voice because it's people like you, the others sitting at home or in a in a in a bad spot, and like, uh, you know what?
• 14:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: They they may be close to that ledge and going, you know what, what's to use?
• 14:09
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: What what what else do I have here to do?
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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And uh just want to say again, thank you for for doing and and and sharing your your time because it's it's it's important and in as uh the name of our organization, voices for voices, that we're not just voices for ourselves, but there's a lot of people that we're voices for, whether we know it or or not.
• 14:37
  Bethany, Advocate: Yeah, yeah.
• 14:39
  Bethany, Advocate: I hope I can help someone, you know.
• 14:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I'm a very big heart person.
• 14:45
  Bethany, Advocate: I I would love to help others.
• 14:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Absolutely.
• 14:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So when uh so kind of as the as the years go by, uh I don't want to say like, is there any I know there's probably things other than what you you've already explained that of kind of like alarms and bells have uh have gone off.
• 15:09
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Have you been able to get any closure on any of those areas or are things it sounds like just uh just a nightmare everywhere you you turn?
• 15:26
  Bethany, Advocate: You're right.
• 15:27
  Bethany, Advocate: That's how I explain it to people.
• 15:29
  Bethany, Advocate: Basically, it's like I'm living in a never-ending nightmare, you know, investigating things.
• 15:34
  Bethany, Advocate: Like I said, I've found so much that's just not right.
• 15:39
  Bethany, Advocate: It's not nothing's done right.
• 15:42
  Bethany, Advocate: It's the paperwork, you know, and it's it's frustrating when you can't get somebody to help you, you know.
• 15:49
  Bethany, Advocate: I I've been to lawyer after lawyer, and I don't understand why I keep getting turned away.
• 15:56
  Bethany, Advocate: That there was one in Prestonsburg that said, Well, yeah, I'll help you.
• 16:00
  Bethany, Advocate: Uh bring me $2,300 and we'll do the probate stuff and all that.
• 16:06
  Bethany, Advocate: And so taking $2,300, he did absolutely nothing.
• 16:11
  Bethany, Advocate: Six or eight months passes, and I go down and I'm like, man, just give me my money back if you're not gonna help me.
• 16:18
  Bethany, Advocate: And he's like, Well, here's your 200 out of 2300, you know, and done nothing elsewhere.
• 16:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So and I'll so I'll just I I don't um I I say I met virtually, um, and I I hope he's not one of the ones that you you've had bad uh really bad um time with, but um Ned Pillersdorf, I think he lives uh practices in Floyd and I think also in in Lecture.
• 16:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Maybe it's a statewide license if he's able to practice in one county can do the other.
• 17:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um because of the this uh Judge Mullen's case.
• 17:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I saw him on uh national show.
• 17:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Any anybody watching or listening probably knows what that knows what that is, but um he was so kind just to sit sit down and have a conversation.
• 17:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I I don't know what his rates are, I don't know any of that, but it uh and like I said, I if you've if you've already talked to him and I I I hope that um he he didn't know that wasn't the one that done that, but okay no, he didn't do that.
• 17:41
  Bethany, Advocate: But but I have been to him before and I asked him for help several years back.
• 17:47
  Bethany, Advocate: Um but you know he he's like I don't know.
• 17:52
  Bethany, Advocate: No.
• 17:55
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well keep on keep on looking and big T oh go ahead.
• 18:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm sorry.
• 18:01
  Bethany, Advocate: There's a yeah, there's uh several properties around here that uh that my my dad and grandparents owned that are uh large businesses, you know.
• 18:16
  Bethany, Advocate: Uh and I don't know if I I don't know if that's got something to do like if it's funding uh one of them is a bingo place, for instance.
• 18:30
  Bethany, Advocate: You know, I don't know if it's funding like uh I don't know, the police or what you know, I mean I feel that way, or you know, maybe that's why they won't help me.
• 18:43
  Bethany, Advocate: I don't know.
• 18:44
  Bethany, Advocate: I'm trying to put it together.
• 18:45
  Bethany, Advocate: That's what it feels like to me, you know.
• 18:48
  Bethany, Advocate: Um yeah.
• 18:49
  Bethany, Advocate: It's uh it's horrible.
• 18:52
  Bethany, Advocate: You know, it's it's really bad.
• 18:56
  Bethany, Advocate: You know, uh Connie's one of her first jobs at a bank and I feel in my heart and soul she saw in my grandparents' uh account or whatever and kind of preyed on my dad, basically, because she's uh like I said, she's just very yeah, very evil and but does it like covertly, kind of like um I've never a narcissist completely, you know.
• 19:30
  Bethany, Advocate: But I didn't know what a narcissist was until just recently, you know, not long ago.
• 19:34
  Bethany, Advocate: We didn't know what narcissists were 15 years ago, you know.
• 19:37
  Bethany, Advocate: I mean, never heard of that word.
• 19:38
  Bethany, Advocate: But uh she's definitely that's what she is, you know, pure evil.
• 19:45
  Bethany, Advocate: And I've uh I don't know how I'm in there all these years, honestly.
• 19:51
  Bethany, Advocate: I I've really battled with uh with a lot of things just trying to hang in there has been really hard, honestly.
• 19:58
  Bethany, Advocate: Some days are harder than others, you know.
• 20:00
  Bethany, Advocate: And and just I frame a little hard out and constantly, you know, ask God to help me, you know, help me make it through and help me, you know, get justice for my family because I know you know, I hate to say it, but I know she was behind it, you know, everything that's happened for financial gain.
• 20:20
  Bethany, Advocate: It's it's very obvious, you know what I'm saying?
• 20:23
  Bethany, Advocate: That's why I don't understand why the costs don't intervene.
• 20:26
  Bethany, Advocate: You know, I thought that's what their job was supposed to do was to, you know, look into stuff like that, you know what I'm saying?
• 20:34
  Bethany, Advocate: But it's like they just turn their heads, you know, like they don't know what's going on.
• 20:39
  Bethany, Advocate: And it's it's very obvious, you know.
• 20:42
  Bethany, Advocate: So if uh I've been kicked out okay, go ahead.
• 20:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah.
• 20:53
  Bethany, Advocate: I've been kicked out of the family, just like kicked to the curb, kind of, you know, since she's stolen everything.
• 20:59
  Bethany, Advocate: Yeah, I don't even I don't speak to none of none of them.
• 21:03
  Bethany, Advocate: So I've lost everybody, you know, having to go through all this.
• 21:08
  Bethany, Advocate: It's been horribly traumatizing.
• 21:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So how it and I'm glad you brought it up, um, because it's something I'm I also have uh you know, there's there's there's obviously the very difficult days and with the whole turning the clock back that this this uh it doesn't really help me because I I among other things, you know, the seasonal effect of the disorder with the you know the lack of sunlight is uh it it it definitely plays uh a uh a role in you know how we just process life on a day-to-day basis.
• 21:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You know, it's hard to sometimes just to get out of bed, to brush our teeth, to get a shower, to and and to others that are like, well, it it doesn't take a lot of energy, and it's like well, it it it just uh anyways, uh so enough no not enough about me.
• 22:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh so uh how how have you been able to get through adversity after adversity after adversity?
• 22:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm glad you brought up what I was trying to get to, uh but my words were escaping me was uh I'm glad you brought up the faith in God and and that that I've I I've really different times in my life have fallen away and keep coming back and and try to make you know it even if it's just prayers that you eat, just real real small prayers of like I don't know what I need to pray for, I don't know what I need, uh you know, help me just get through today or get through the night.
• 22:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh so how how has that helped?
• 23:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because I we have a lot of faith, faithful uh in individuals that uh do follow, uh so they they'd love to hear your your how you go about that.
• 23:14
  Bethany, Advocate: Um the good Lord is definitely that he's the only reason that I'm sitting here right now because I know uh I was feeding on all the time.
• 23:27
  Bethany, Advocate: They poisoned me.
• 23:29
  Bethany, Advocate: I've got my medical records to prove that.
• 23:32
  Bethany, Advocate: Um like I said, and ripped my child from me.
• 23:37
  Bethany, Advocate: That's um it's been horrible, but the good Lord is uh what's helped me get through, you know, just and the love for my child to know that, you know, I've got to stop this somehow, somehow, because you know, I don't want my my child to have to you know what's going on with this woman uh that you know, he's young and he doesn't understand the evil in this world.
• 24:08
  Bethany, Advocate: Yeah, he's just he's just turned 18, you know what I mean?
• 24:11
  Bethany, Advocate: Okay and uh it took me a long time to s to figure out hey, this is coming from from my mom, you know what I mean?
• 24:22
  Bethany, Advocate: The all these things.
• 24:24
  Bethany, Advocate: I didn't want to believe it, you know, I was in denial for several years, but uh but uh you know I've I've gotta get him away from her, you know.
• 24:35
  Bethany, Advocate: But it took me a long time, but you know, I like I said, I I sit down and I'm like, well, you know, it's it's her, you know, it I was in denial for a few years.
• 24:45
  Bethany, Advocate: She's a school teacher, and you know, I go to people and ask for help, and it's like they don't want to believe me because she's been a school teacher for 30 years or whatever, and because of that, people think she's a you know, a good person or whatever, you know.
• 25:04
  Bethany, Advocate: But uh, but prayer and you know, I pray my my heart out possible.
• 25:10
  Bethany, Advocate: And uh my angels and the good Lord watch over me and I know that they'll help me get through this one way or the other, you know.
• 25:20
  Bethany, Advocate: I have to keep a good mindset because when you start to have a bad mindset, it's just it's not good, you know.
• 25:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's not so yeah, and it and and it's it's that whole uh you know, if uh if you know, I don't want to say if I don't love myself or if I don't support just in mind, not not even not financially, but uh what I've had to also learn is that uh to have people follow or be interested, or um I've had to you know just like you, you know, get through just hard day after hard day and and just say, well, if if I want to make this thing work, whatever that is, if it's just getting through the day, I'm gonna have to believe in myself for for today, and I know I got a meeting or different things that are going on, and uh in and that might shine the opposite way, and you you seem like a like a kind soul and for others to just just take advantage of uh ever everything.
• 26:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um is is just uh I I I I I I hope people start to do better.
• 26:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I I know by you stepping up and sharing your voice, your story, uh the the trauma, and uh the I'm I'm just excited to be able to share your your your story because there's so many people that it it again like we grow up.
• 27:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We we don't think our whether it's family or people we meet, we we don't think that like people are bad or evil or demonic or we we we we grow up and we we don't think that and so when that does happen it's like oh my gosh, am I really seeing that or is my mind playing tricks on me?
• 27:45
  Bethany, Advocate: Uh and it's uh so how yeah, so how how did how did you come in contact with Taya and and uh and again be that beak or be uh well there is uh judges that have been bribed and uh I know that you know for a fact around here because I've been to them trying to get help, you know.
• 28:15
  Bethany, Advocate: So um there's a lot of corruption going on, and I have been trying to get my trying to get help with all this, and uh I saw all that going on and um there's a couple of several of us girls that are all in this area trying to trying to get help, you know, several of us are going through different adversities, but but we all kind of have the same common denominator, you know, there's there's very crooked judges in this area.
• 28:52
  Bethany, Advocate: And uh so that's how we kind of came across each other on Facebook, you know.
• 28:58
  Bethany, Advocate: I I messaged her and that we've been we've talked back and forth for quite a while now.
• 29:03
  Bethany, Advocate: She's uh she's good, she's a good girl, she's a good friend of mine.
• 29:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah.
• 29:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm I'm I'm glad that you're able to find a little bit of solace and and to have have somebody to to talk to because it's it it it's hard when you talk to somebody and if if I say you have to go through something to understand it, but when somebody's gone through something somewhat similar uh and taken advantage of, and it makes those conversations all the more uh easier because you don't have to spend all that and emotional energy going through like every single step of the the way.
• 29:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's like I don't have to explain it, like we're just support each other, yeah.
• 30:02
  Bethany, Advocate: We just want to understand each other.
• 30:03
  Bethany, Advocate: We know that one another, you know, is going through the hill.
• 30:07
  Bethany, Advocate: So we can look out for one another.
• 30:09
  Bethany, Advocate: There's just so many people involved in this situation.
• 30:19
  Bethany, Advocate: Oh my god.
• 30:21
  Bethany, Advocate: There's been people tied off like a thing that's been all over trying to get hailed for almost it's been almost 13 years.
• 30:31
  Bethany, Advocate: And uh you know I was told that everything was laid to me when I when I dad and my mom pilots that my mom and brothers got very or whatever you want to call it.
• 30:48
  Bethany, Advocate: And uh and and what was his evil plan to steal it, you know, from me.
• 30:55
  Bethany, Advocate: And uh they all ended up on me.
• 31:00
  Bethany, Advocate: Um my uncle and my mom and brother and at the time I didn't know I couldn't trust them, you know, at that time.
• 31:09
  Bethany, Advocate: And uh it's been really, really hard, you know.
• 31:16
  Bethany, Advocate: Um her brother, my uncle, uh grew up with two of the judges in Pott County.
• 31:25
  Bethany, Advocate: Like they were buddies all their lives.
• 31:30
  Bethany, Advocate: So you know it's it's a rough deal.
• 31:37
  Bethany, Advocate: It's a lot of corruption, that's for sure.
• 31:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It uh it it is, and I'm I'm glad to be I'm not glad I haven't.
• 31:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm glad to be part of the solution and expose Lena with with you and others because it it it really does need to be, whether it's Kentucky or whether it's Columbia, wherever that is, it it's uh you know, it we have to treat people humanely and uh whether we like to or not.
• 32:14
  Bethany, Advocate: Right, yeah.
• 32:15
  Bethany, Advocate: I mean, you know, just it's the fight for justice, you know, it's hard to get justice here when the main uh the people running the show are the main criminals, you know, is themselves they're the criminals that you know stealing stuff from people, covering stuff up and go it's uh uh it's insane what I've seen happen and go on.
• 32:42
  Bethany, Advocate: It really is.
• 32:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we're we're getting close to the the end.
• 32:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We got probably about three or four minutes.
• 32:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh so if you want to share words of encouragement, inspiration, uh how again maybe reiterate, you know, how you you know that how important God is to, but you know, to the person that uh is out there and is in the same same boat, similar or knows somebody, uh what you know, feel free to you know give whatever plugs you you have and and to share and uh just want to give you that opportunity here while we're closing out.
• 33:32
  Bethany, Advocate: Okay.
• 33:33
  Bethany, Advocate: Uh yes, if it if my uh I would say uh my advice would be to definitely get as close to God as possible and uh and pray and because there is a lot of evil in this world that if you have God on your side You should have nothing to fear.
• 34:03
  Bethany, Advocate: So just pray a little heart out and stay strong.
• 34:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Oh my gosh, you're so brave and strong to to talk about that.
• 34:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I can't even uh imagine uh what uh what's what's been what's being uncovered and and uh have the mistreatment of our own uh you know our own brothers and sisters and humanity and our country, no matter where where we we we live, that you know we're we don't have to be born royal to you know have you know the the certain you know humane rights and uh when it and and and that's where the I think the one of the interesting parts is is you know as the children as they grow up, the way that their brain as they grows in, it the the the reasoning part is in the front, but the way the brain grows, it grows kind of from the back to the front.
• 35:13
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so it's not until like in their in our 20s, uh that um our brain is, I guess, fully or as close as fully functional.
• 35:25
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um and and so we don't, you know, earlier in life understand as much or just no fear, or uh you know, wanting to uh find the and we still want to find the good in people, but we still have to have uh you know a little bit of okay, like is somebody trying to, you know, uh not not slip uh roofy or anything, but is somebody trying to get something, you know, by me, yeah, you know, like you're saying, like with paperwork and things that that now looking back, it's like, oh man, yeah.
• 36:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yes.
• 36:10
  Bethany, Advocate: I just found out last year that I was adopted by my grandparents and nobody's helping.
• 36:15
  Bethany, Advocate: I forgot to mention that.
• 36:17
  Bethany, Advocate: I'm gonna throw that in there.
• 36:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, yeah.
• 36:20
  Bethany, Advocate: And I so I started I started equipment everything about Connie, and I was like, well, I want to do a DNA test, you know.
• 36:30
  Bethany, Advocate: DNA test and she totally lost it.
• 36:35
  Bethany, Advocate: Refused to do to do the DNA test.
• 36:38
  Bethany, Advocate: You know, but refuses to tell me the truth.
• 36:44
  Bethany, Advocate: And this and that, it's wild.
• 36:55
  Bethany, Advocate: Replace things and find this and that, and it's it's been really rough.
• 37:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well well Bethany, you've been uh a a a light for uh yourself for those around you that really truly want to get to know you and and know you for who who you are, uh, that you aren't what others have made you out to be and taken advantage of that you really do have uh great, great qualities and uh thanks for thanks for I mean not only being on the the show but thanks for valuing your your life to continue to to to go on because who would have thought how our paths cross and how Taya mentioned you and and so I I reached out and uh and and and I and I really I say like I know for a fact uh but uh with a higher degree of certainty that there's at least one person that's gone through something similar and and and there might be even something very similar of oh my gosh, I didn't realize I was adopted.
• 38:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: The they might be thinking the same thing, and they're like, Oh, maybe let me go do a DNA test and through you know heaven and hell, like I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna get it, get it done, and and I'm gonna check it out.
• 38:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And and and and that might help uh help individuals uh to uh I'm with you uh to you know just just pray, get get close to God, uh, or whoever their higher authority is.
• 39:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um there's you know reasons why we're here.
• 39:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh and and I think this is one of the reasons why you're you're still here is to do exactly what you're doing tonight and and sharing your your story and voice.
• 39:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And it's it's just unbelievable what you've had to endure.
• 39:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um and so there's anything that we can do if you want to uh we can do uh episodes down the down the line as things go, as uh you know, just let let us know because that's our our our goal is to uh expose all any and all bad things, bad actors that are out there, um, that are are really stepping on people when uh and it's taking advantage of them because it's oh my gosh.
• 40:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So thank you so much for Bethany.
• 40:12
  Bethany, Advocate: Thank you very welcome, you're very welcome.
• 40:14
  Bethany, Advocate: I'm on the search for my biological mom now, uh as well.
• 40:20
  Bethany, Advocate: You know what I'm saying?
• 40:21
  Bethany, Advocate: So uh yeah, so yeah, it's a shocking to think, well, this is I thought she was my mom.
• 40:27
  Bethany, Advocate: Her name's on my birth certificate, you know.
• 40:29
  Bethany, Advocate: That's all I've ever known to be a mom, but apparently it's it's messed up.
• 40:35
  Bethany, Advocate: Apparently, she's not my biological, you know.
• 40:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But yeah, it's uh oh my gosh.
• 40:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We actually one of one of our prior guests and we we stay in pretty good contact, uh, he was human trafficked, and uh he was sent uh well not only to be in trafficked, but then he was uh put in a mental institution.
• 41:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And when he was put in a mental institution, uh they went and changed his paperwork.
• 41:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So when you talk about like uh you know, name on the birth certificate and all these things, he came out, he has two birth certificate birth certificates, his name was changed twice, his mom's name was and and and I I just and even still till to this day, it just boggles my mind.
• 41:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And um, you know, then but when you think about it, if you have people people in high places that are able to you know override and and make changes to official documents, it is like what won't people do?
• 41:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yes, uh I know exactly.
• 41:49
  Bethany, Advocate: Wow, I know now that's I've been questioning that as well, you know.
• 41:54
  Bethany, Advocate: What I really done, you know, it's it's questionable that yeah, so well, thank you, Bethany, for for joining us.
• 42:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Want to thank our viewers, our listeners, wherever you may be.
• 42:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh and if if you have any information that can help Bethany, uh can help uh individuals uh in and around her community.
• 42:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh if if she's your biological daughter, uh she'd love to love to hear from you.
• 42:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And if we're a conduit as an organization, please do reach out to us.
• 42:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh any uh any any attorneys, any lawyers, anybody can can help on that the legal side that can practice in uh Kentucky.
• 42:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But uh if if it's specific to the Floyd County, uh they they can they can help her, you know, please do reach out to us, uh reach out uh to uh her directly, but we will definitely uh if you reach out to us, we'll we'll get you in in contact because uh the the the times long past where uh people should be treated with dignity and respect.
• 43:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I know there's uh a lot of uh corrupt individuals, corrupt people at different levels, but I also know that there's there's people that are good people, and then that they want to help.
• 43:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And uh Bethany is one one of those uh those people.
• 43:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we want to uh you know alert your friends, alert people that uh may uh may live in and around the the area that uh could could help um and finding her biological mom, that'd be so awesome to to do, and then obviously to help with the legal challenges.
• 44:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um we uh we we uh we hope and pray that uh from from her being brave and strong and uh you know standing on a pedestal, not under the pedestal, that she's able to use our platform uh and and share her her voice.
• 44:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so thank you, Bethany.
• 44:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you, our viewers, thank you, our listeners.
• 44:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We can't do this with with without you.
• 44:29
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh so until next time, uh we like to say if uh if we can, let's celebrate everyone's voice and uh let's uh let's let's see if we can we can all as a you know uh as humanity um be a voice for ourselves or others that uh may not be able to share share their voice because everybody is uh is is given that uh as a as a human to to share stories, to share events, to connect, to help others.
• 45:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And that's that's how we're gonna uh reach our goal of helping three billion, but it's even not even just us reaching that.
• 45:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's all the people that have been helped and are helping others along the way because uh we we know our time's limited on earth and we don't get to take you know the money, the buildings, the cars, the whatever.
• 45:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We don't get to take those things with us, so we get to leave our legacy.
• 45:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And uh we want to thank uh each and every one of you.
• 45:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Whether this is your first episode, uh we have over 360.
• 45:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You can you can find uh Taya's episode uh as well as Brandy's episode, and we have others uh of in individuals that uh unfortunately have have been taken advantage of way, way, way too much.
• 45:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And and so that's why we're we're spending uh as much time as we are and and hoping to expose as much as uh we can so people can live a uh a uh value-lived life that what they want to live, not what somebody in some high position uh deems that individuals should be able to live.
• 46:25
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So uh we'll see you next time.
• 46:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And uh God bless uh the United States of America and God bless the uh the uh individuals near and far across this world and uh seek God, seek your higher authority, and uh uh He won't He won't lead lead you astray.
• 46:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we'll see you next time.
• 46:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thanks, everybody.