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Bonus: Athletics LLC S3 E17 'feat. Darrell Smith Jr (Cal Poly Pomona)' August 5, 2022 · The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast

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It's bonus time, we're honored Athletics, LLC would allow us to
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present to you the audio version of their weekly Friday Night,
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YouTube series. Let's get to and see what the
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crew has in store this week. Hi everyone, different
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backgrounds, different time of day.
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Don't get mad if we get mixed up because who were thrown
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everybody's equilibrium off this week.
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So welcome to another fun episode of Athletics, LLC, Big
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League, Chew here, of course Clyde.
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How are you today, sir? It is the middle of the
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afternoon on a Tuesday if I'm good but I'm a little confused,
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right? You got the club going up?
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I just gotta say that, that sucks so lucious.
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How are you today? Sir, I am rolling.
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You know, it's a, it's been a good last couple of weeks for
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the Gator. So I'm great.
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I don't think anybody would disagree with that steam looses
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getting ready to board that Demetria, it's Emirates first
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class King flight to wherever, oh my Gina.
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Is he and he's only just smiling.
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So yes, move on Birmingham Lamar's, how are you, sir?
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I'm just taking it all in, you know, it's rare that a
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decathlete does to decathlon's in nine days.
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It's even more rare when they're on two different continents.
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So we're just going to roll with that.
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And I'm going to go get this dub.
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Big-league, Big League grows, big league froze.
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So we what? Oh, she's back now.
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Okay. Oh man, you know that TCU
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bandwidth is limited. Just kidding, just kidding.
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I haven't got my last day of my other, my first paycheck get.
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So we've got a new tile. Not one.
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That isn't familiar with the show though.
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The mayor Smith? No pun intended, pun, completely
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intended, mr. Duff, how are you today, sir?
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Oh, good. Happy to be to be here.
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Thank you, thank you for joining us.
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Seriously though. Yeah, I like to show it's going
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to be fun. I know these crazy folks.
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So yeah. Hey, hold on to you see big lie.
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Oh man, here we go. Right.
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Full disclosure, I'm in the office.
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So that means on my physio ball and I've already holes Fallen
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twice today so maybe three times a charm.
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We'll see, we'll see anyhow. All right.
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Well let's jump off the show. We had some great questions that
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were posed to us for the last few weeks.
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Via the audience on our YouTube channel.
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So we're going to have some of those questions and then just
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get some opinions about some things.
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So first, how do we so the conversation over the last few
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weeks have been the NCAA athletes?
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Are going to be too tired, they're not going to show up
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this that the third all - and we saw that that did not happen for
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moat for the most notables, right there are some who could
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crash and some more that didn't. So how do we meaning you all as?
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Coaches ensure that athletes are able to compete at the highest
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level and the months of June and July.
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I'll go first. I mean, yeah, it's just it's
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just a matter of planning, proper planning.
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Just from my experience in talking to other coaches that
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have experienced issues with this.
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There's just seems to be this Thought that we've been through
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a long season, I need to get my athletes back into shape, I'm
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not sure how you lose your conditioning or your shape
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coming off a major championship where you were just phenomenal
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or even good, right? I think that's a mistake people
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start trying to add too much to the equation and they end up
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overloading people. I think that that's the biggest
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issue. I see they just they just do too
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much. Is the kid will say, you don't
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want too much or doing the most, right?
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That's that's Tim. Are you doing the most right
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now? I appreciate you for stealing
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both my catchphrases right there because that's that's all,
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that's all I was going to ultimately say, is yes, people
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doing too much. I've literally heard tale of
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people quote unquote, going back to base coat on.
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What was the other one going back to base?
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And then the other term is somebody said to me, one time
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was reset from the beginning and I said, what does that mean?
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Like it's it's just a couple weeks away.
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What what are we talking about here?
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I think a lot of people try to get cute and screw up the whole
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you know things that they ultimately don't understand
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right like peeking and stuff like that.
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And if you have coaches, who may be there, you know, diving into
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that arena for the first time or crumbling under the pressure of
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what could come to them or their athletes.
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If this thing goes well, They just start overthinking it and
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doing too many things. I've witnessed it firsthand and
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it's really bad and ugly to watch, but it obviously is able
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to be done correctly. Lucius is done it correctly and
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a whole handful of people have gotten it right over the years.
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I'm less interested in how the conversation about how to get it
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done. And, and, you know, me, I get to
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take the pedi angle, like I like to spend a moment and be like,
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All these people that swore it was going to crash and burn
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because if you take the NCAA related folks out of USA's and
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out of the World Championships, our team looks really different
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and really bad in most instances.
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So you know I hope that this year's progress and this year's
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success would put an end to a lot of that ridiculous
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narrative. Well I obviously I agree with
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both of those takes so I will only try to add and and I will
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say that Using a cliche. If you fail to plan, then you
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plan to fail. So if you, I mean, you have to
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know your personnel, right? They always say, you got to know
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your horse. If you're, if you are coaching
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an athlete and athletes that, if you do your job and they do
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their job, they will be at USA's and possibly make the team,
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right? If that's the possibility, then
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that should be part of your master. and for the year, Right?
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Like the training that you write shouldn't end June 14th or
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whatever the date of ncaa's is right?
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That doesn't make any sense but it is amazing.
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How often that happens. And so like that I think is a
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big part, right? Because you can't just pick it
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up on the Fly Like that's, that's problem.
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Because that's when you put in, you know, more sugar and more
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milk thinking, it's going to make a better cake and it
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definitely but I, what I will also say is Also part of knowing
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your horse, understand that just because your your student
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athlete has the possibility or if you're successful, does make
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it through you, the USA's Gauntlet and makes it to the
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championship. Let's be clear.
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Very very rarely is that athletes goal for the year to
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make the final at World Championships or the Olympics or
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win a medal, right? Like some of You're doing is
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trying to get them there for the experience.
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To be able to build off of the following year, right?
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I mean, not not very many athletes, start to Collegiate
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season, And are expected to win a medal right there.
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Me that we can probably name that.
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That group. It's not a, not a large group of
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people historically, but I definitely think that people
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tend to mess that up. Clyde alluded to it.
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It's like when when they get closer to USA's and they see
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what the landscape really is. I like, yo, we can make this
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team. Yo, we make this team, we can
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win a medal, you know, if we do this, you know.
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Be a six-figure contract. They start thinking along those
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lines and it's like, listen, it's like dominoes all money
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ain't good money, and if you're chasing money, you're almost
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certainly got it all wrong in the first place, right?
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And and I just, I think sometimes it's funny because I
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own said this in year, one, but I can't get away from it.
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You have, we're trying to prepare young people for
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careers, not a contract. Right?
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And so like the each one of these things has to be building
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blocks of uninjured, stackable training and success.
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So the more times you mess that up, the more rewrites you end up
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having to do the faster careers get derailed.
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And I'm not going to go through this, but I mean, we all can
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name 50 careers that have been derailed just in that part
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alone. So I for me, I think one of the
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in addition to what might Cohorts of said, I think one of
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the biggest things that you have to do is from the beginning,
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know your horse like assume success when you're planning for
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the season assume that you're going to do it right and they're
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going to do it, right? And what would that bring?
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You know, it always kills me that how people in the field
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events, don't know what world championship or Olympic
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standards, are that blows my mind.
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Like I've been to so many Meats in years where the world Champs
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are standing behind step is to 31 and watch people jump at 2:30
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and I'm just like, I don't understand this.
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Like you've got to meet one, you can set the bar whatever you
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want to. I don't get why you're jumping
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at this bar but that's because you don't know and then I look
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like a jackass if I go over and tell you so I'm not going to
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walk because he cause you know how that it you know how that
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goes, you know how that goes. If you go to tell the coach I
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coached like You probably don't want to jump into 32 Sanders 231
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I know what I'm doing, okay? See that's why I didn't say
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anything. I think to build on the
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conversation, I got a couple of different types but one of them
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I think Lamar nailed it on and if you fail to plan, I had an
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athlete that I won't name because that's a whole nother
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conversation. But anyway, he literally asked
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me. during his early on in his season, if we could prepare for
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worlds, And I was like, of course.
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Now due to circumstances out of his control, he never got a
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chance at that but that was our plan, the whole season.
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So we've been going through and sees, we already knew walking in
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the door with that was going to be.
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And I think there's also an element of track and field that
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gets lost. Sometimes when people start to
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try to be too smart or the expert, and at the end of the
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day, This is try. It's literally the same sport
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you're running when you were eight.
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I said around one day, you know, I had the privilege of knowing a
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lot of really really good track athletes and I used to ask them
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questions. Crazy question, I asked Kevin
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yeah, way way back when after 92 Olympics and came back to fall
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practice and ask my said you ever think about the fact that
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no one ever in life is run faster than you?
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And then I asked him, of course his answer was no but then I
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asked them about what it was like to run at an Olympic games
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are so hundred thousand people and he said to me, he said in 88
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he said I noticed he said but by 92 he said to you was just
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another tracking and that stuck with me because the end of the
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day when for example Lamar's out there in 2000, fighting for his
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metal it's just a decathlon, you're running.
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You were jumping and I think a lot of people and we all know me
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start talking to coaches. And like Clyde said, I had to go
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back to Bates. You're gonna make the base that
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person can do. They can do things to their
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genetics, your jobs and stay the hell out of the way.
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Most of the time especially when it gets the summer.
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You know, you start messing it up, trying to be an expert.
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And I think a lot of people fall into that, I think a lot of
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coaches also fall into the actually thinking, they found
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the secret workout. I love this is going well.
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Secret workout. It's got the I got the plan.
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You got the planet, man. Please, you go talk to somebody.
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I love talking to Lucius Lucius, sitting around like Brett.
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Hey, sometimes a secret workout is being conducted on the
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warm-up track. I'm going to tell you a little
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secret workout. Hey I posted this earlier this
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year. Tell you a secret workout
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complete. Talk to me a thousand times.
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We all got mentors. Everybody knows mine when I do
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call them 90. I'm glad to 10 and the 10th time
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was only because I told him, don't give me this answer.
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His answer is always the same when I have a dilemma rest.
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It says it every single one time I had to come dressed, he's a
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rest, he's a, would you do? He said, arrest them, let him
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mercy and to am glad you said that because, like, when you,
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when you look at what people do, right?
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So we have been training since September with Collegiate
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athletes, right? And we go through the grinder,
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that's the indoor season, and we go to the outdoor season.
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And the answer is to return to base, right?
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See, I've never understood that, like, I never understood when
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somebody called me. He's like, hey, you know, I'm
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gonna have like this is the Monday after the, in see.
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A premium that early we're going to do three by five hundred a
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mile. I got worried about, you see,
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I'm like, your uncle just let him rest.
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They just came off of two very grueling days of competition.
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Are they mentally and physically were just destroyed and then you
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travel there you travel back and you don't put them on track of
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it and do 500, you know, after you know, the world championship
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trials, you know, you have an athlete, go there and run well
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and you think, okay, now I got to get them back in shape.
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Well, they just ran really well. And, you know, this like there
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is a mental and physical grind to a long Collegiate season, but
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if you look at the majority collegians handled that pretty
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well this year, I don't think that any of the Collegiate
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actually metal and open event this year.
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I don't think so. But I think they handled
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themselves pretty well though you know, and I think that them
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being at least the level of close to it.
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They were at the NCAA championships, you know.
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I think you spoke to something that I think was critical.
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Like, I'll just take a couple of mine.
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I think Champion. Alison wasn't accustomed to the
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big crowd in Yugi. Right?
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He'd been there twice. Wouldn't that fool?
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Contrary probably of Clyde. It was pretty full.
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There wasn't even if you go back to area.
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Like, that's the biggest crowd we've ever been before.
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No. Right.
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Because he came in on covid. Is that?
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Because when you were in Tokyo, there was nobody in the street,
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nobody right? Yeah.
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So that was a great Point by the mayor that you know that those
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things make a difference. You know that's first time and I
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think you know I'm sorry the more that you little do that to
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like it's a preparation for the future and people don't don't
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think about that. They don't talk about that in
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the worst thing you can do is start.
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There's two things in major issues for me.
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Totally reconstruction your race model.
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Or try to get him in better shape tools, horrible items.
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Reading. Greetings from Cali.
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Yeah, it's been a while. I forgot you.
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That's where you are. That's my view.
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No, no, no no. Story.
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True story. True story.
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I'm booking the trip and I send the details and I said, hey, I
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need to get the the meal money set up for this trip to Cali.
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Well, why is there a question you're going to California?
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No, no, no, Alan Columbia. She goes and looks it up, she
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goes, don't think I could find is Columbia South Carolina.
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I'm like, oh my God. Look at the spelling like this
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is C 0. L 0 Colombia.
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Good to see you mayor, good to see you.
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Sir. I feel like that's kind of a,
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you know, you kind of came in just snuck in right on the right
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underneath, quite Governor. That's kind of how it came to
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fruition. Okay.
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You logged, 100%. Good stuff by the way.
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Congratulations to us again. We got what?
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We got. Another three, continents show.
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That's right, that's right. Oh jeez.
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What before all over the place? That's good.
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Everybody know you're good. But before we transition off of
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this, this has been a connected issue in The Ether of all of
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this. We talked about it a little bit
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before the championship, but now that the championship has been
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finished and has been wildly successful.
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Can we Circle back on the on the idea that the Collegiate
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athletes should have to declare themselves Pro to gain access
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and when you jump? Yeah, yeah.
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What distracted by the musings of the Lesser and we need to
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stop. No, no no stop that they're not
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the Lesser, you don't need to ask yourself, why are you being
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extra Petty to this? it's like, Biggs is still a
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thing because the Commonwealth literally these are the
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countries that were civilized and colonize, Great Britain.
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I just want to understand that's three continents worth all of
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Australia, almost all of Africa and three quarters of Asian.
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Like, what? And we're still having this,
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this, this Olympic-sized competition.
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But anyway, so that's where I'm in my I'm in my Petty bag.
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I mean, but it's In its Heyday, Commonwealth Games were the
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second largest game in the entire world, like, you know,
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that that's and that's insane. That's insane.
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Like the fact that the queen is still on the dollar bill in
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Canada. Yes.
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Okay anyway, so so, so you get where I've been the whole time.
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I've been here just like this, if you raise, I would be great.
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Giggling can we can't participate.
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Okay so no no I just want cuz we didn't let them conquer about
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what we were talking about. What we were talking about,
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right? One thing I will look we we
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always we have truth Sayers, one thing.
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We cannot, we would be remiss if we didn't at least acknowledge.
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Easier is not the right word, but the collegians in the
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American Collegiate system were dealt a positive hand in that,
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this is the earliest world championships has ever been,
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right? Because it's lucious and I had
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this conversation, it would be a tougher ask if the meat was in
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was, was two weeks from now. Right.
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Because everybody got more time for be.
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Absolutely. Absolutely and minutes from a
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hammock from a mental and coaching standpoint.
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Yeah, 100% honey but not only that but that in the future it's
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the professionals would have had more time to get into the swing
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of their season like they're after, you know Governor I hear
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you but shame on you for saying that.
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Want to talk about the professional coaches and of
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college, coaches aren't professional that.
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I get paid to coach track and field.
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Second of all, for those who want to get up on the there so
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boxes and they I'm a professional coach and I don't
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like then, that's your job. So I don't come to me and talk
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about I needed two or three more weeks, you knew when the meat
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was two years ago, right? Yeah.
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Sorry. You as a professional coach
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can't get your athletes ready. Two years, you're not very
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professional. That's all shame on you for
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saying that I you know like literally going to start next
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week. Yeah, right let's call it what
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it is. Just like a professional
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athlete. Right.
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Okay. The win Worlds.
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Absolutely, absolutely. The more medals Allyson Felix as
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we talked about forever not by me and I Muhammad SAS
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Help the helped those who are least experienced at absolutely.
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That's not I'm not disregarding tremendously and I'm not saying
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that I'm not saying it wouldn't have the exact same turn out if
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the meat was two weeks from now, you know, in Africa.
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I just know it would have been a more difficult coaching task.
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I have a question because I know the mayor wants to jump all into
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this because he's about to fall out of, JeJu.
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Okay, so my question to you guys, is this the number of
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professional cook? Coaches on this continent.
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They got it wrong in three weeks.
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I mean, absolutely, absolutely, okay, because there was a lot
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more professional coaches, got it wrong, then, Collegiate,
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coaches and God. So what do we treat me that to
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we found out? There's two sides, because we
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don't, we don't give those same coaches, three more weeks.
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We found out of that coin. The Collegiate coaches.
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Might struggle to go further in the season.
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And a great number of the professional coaches struggled
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with the three week window. I was thinking.
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Okay, so let's back it up though.
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My point on this that gets skipped over.
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Is that forget the professional Bridge Collegiate?
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Let's talk about seasons and what came to show is.
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It's not the three weeks, it's the six to eight weeks prior to
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the six to eight weeks prior to the Collegiate.
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Athlete has raised thirty times high level, you know, depending
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on your level where you're coming from your racing racing
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racing professional. And I agree.
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Mr. Lucius, haven't done this for a long time.
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It is you know, your job to get it done, but it is really hard
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and track and field. When one year, you're going to
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have five weeks in Mac. The next year, you're going to
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have three and then you are championships.
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And the nun and in three weeks and worlds, and it was fun
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having it here, but it's hard when it's early because
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professional truly, truly, professional, athletes, had less
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racing opportunities and I get there, call it the job That
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factors into a lot of it. They throw some coaches off
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because they're used to have in their nine races headed into a
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major, but isn't the key phrase there.
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Some because we have had this discussion a lot of time going
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this, this, this panel those who can do.
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Yes. The guys who can coach the
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ladies? Who can coach they figured out -
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no. I'm so what about the athlete?
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Well that K1 S as the coach that's my job, you know.
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Like you know, like I have been browbeaten by Lamar million
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times whenever he hears me say that was my fault, I need to
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coach he or she better. Right?
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So as the coach, it's my job to figure out what my athlete
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needs. And I know that, you know, this
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because you happen to be related to God, that might be the best
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ever figure it out, right? So that's my point is like,
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okay, the problem here is the skill set, the mindset of said
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coach or said athlete but if, you know, I guess maybe I'm a
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planner right. So if you give me a 12 month
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window window to plan a figure something out.
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All right. I'm going to do it now.
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I'm gonna take my guy for an example, right?
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Grant race once before we went to the world and obviously he
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was, he had to buy, right? So he race In New York and he
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raced in at the trials, right? But like we set things up and
28:26
training, we set things up to model, what we needed to get
28:30
done. Right?
28:32
And I again, I know that, you know, this because the same guy
28:37
that taught you help teach me, right?
28:41
So, all I'm saying, is like we are very good at giving people
28:45
passes, okay? Do your job because I don't do
28:48
look, we go to the NCAA me and I'm from 25th and 30th in the
28:52
country freaking for years and wrote it because for my job.
28:55
Oh, and that listen, that's so that's really my issue because
28:58
there's a whole lot of passes. Better that are out right now,
29:04
and, you know, let me shoot last Brahman.
29:07
Got it done, right? John Smith is in year.
29:11
One with tyloo. He was getting scorched in the
29:15
internet world with how bad she looked all year.
29:18
And then she showed up made the final and looked fantastic.
29:22
I walk up to him and I'll add I grabbed him.
29:25
I put my hand on her shoulder. I say I want you to remember
29:28
this day because I'm going to remind you a year for Now they
29:32
were talking crap to you because they're going to regret it.
29:34
He goes you know, you know, they will write a lot.
29:45
Yeah. I'm just saying anything to
29:48
like, okay. Like for me, I just want
29:52
everybody to be accountable for doing their job, because there's
29:55
a lot of these professional coaches that have these large
29:59
groups of people that have one or two people running.
30:02
And I've had this discussion with agents and would shoe
30:05
companies, you guys keep trying to recreate Santa Monica and you
30:10
keep trying to recreate HSI. Okay?
30:13
With HSI came to attract me. And I know this because I'm not
30:16
talking about what I heard. I'm talking about what I
30:18
witnessed with my own eyes, everybody got off the plane and
30:22
got it done. Right.
30:24
Well, Santa Monica was that their Heyday?
30:26
Everybody got it done. So we have to quit giving people
30:28
passes for having one or two people run well when they got 30
30:32
people in the group. So I think that feeds back into
30:36
your professional conversation, about it speaking specifically
30:41
to those that are going to listen to this, the
30:44
professionalism of it all. How can I put this cleanly
30:48
without offending? Folks, make better.
30:50
You can you can, you can't I know but make sure you are.
30:53
Something, if you try and we don't call ourselves with that
30:57
here, you're already, I already know.
30:58
You guys, aren't ya, make better decisions, not comfortable ones.
31:04
And there's a lot of athletes that made comfortable decisions,
31:07
and your suffering for it. I'm talking to you, you're
31:10
suffering for. You didn't do your research, you
31:13
cause your friends, they told you about the coach of made him
31:16
feel good, or the coach had had success with sad athlete etc.
31:19
Etc. Or the place.
31:20
That wasn't so expensive, that's a personal shopper.
31:23
Me because you've been too many athletes over the decades,
31:27
didn't want to move to LA because they said it was too
31:29
expensive and professionally in their careers or suffered for.
31:34
And it's not to say that moving to La would have solved all
31:37
their problems. But when something is, people
31:40
went Lamar went to where he was going to be successful Clyde.
31:46
Leary transfer schools to be successful.
31:48
The governor already know. He chases success where he
31:51
needed to go and write. On the professional level.
31:55
There's a lot of athletes that are complaining that you don't
31:59
want to leave home at all and you want to live somewhere where
32:04
you can stretch a dollar and Lamar said it earlier on a
32:07
different topic. Don't chase the money.
32:09
You chasing success, you'll get paid.
32:11
And I think that feeds into the conversation about the, the old,
32:16
the great conversation, what makes a professional track
32:18
athlete. I mean that's a hard answer but
32:20
that's part of a huge part of it.
32:23
You know, some athletes are suffering for right now because
32:26
you didn't perform in a matter. The most you didn't reach a
32:28
contract then when you didn't perform and said, said company,
32:33
does cutting your checks as yeah.
32:35
I'm catching your check. You said that I'm, you know
32:40
what? I was just going to say so I
32:45
wasn't going to go here, but but the unfortunate part is that you
32:48
like, literally you drag me here.
32:51
I, I completely agree. What you're saying, but I have a
32:56
problem with the other group, the group that didn't want to
33:00
leave, because they knew that what they had where they had, it
33:04
was what they needed to be successful, but the shoe company
33:07
moved them her and the shoe company moved them.
33:12
And then it didn't work out. And everybody shoe company
33:17
coach. Everybody is just basically
33:20
doing like this. That's your fault like you were
33:22
supposed to make it work and it's like, okay, but I didn't
33:24
want to come here in the first place, right?
33:27
But they said, I make this much money if I stay, and I make this
33:30
much money if I go. So that's not a choice, right?
33:34
Right. And and like, and the
33:35
unfortunate part is like that group is cannon fodder.
33:40
That happens in our sport there there there there casualties of
33:43
War so to speak like the Shuka, the the sport is not
33:48
professional. So it play it pays basically
33:51
slave to the shook up, the whims of the shoe companies are shoe
33:55
companies do what's in their best interest and they move
34:00
kids, you know, they move young people to one of three places
34:04
and then when it doesn't work out, There's no, there's no
34:08
accountability for them, right at no point in time.
34:11
Does the Shoe Company, say, well, that's on us because we
34:14
moved you and this situation isn't a good one, right?
34:18
They say You're supposed to be a professional.
34:21
You go with like you don't get to play for the Denver Nuggets
34:24
then and and live in North Carolina.
34:26
So go do what you got to do. But this thing the team sport is
34:31
an individual Sport and there When you compete, you compete
34:37
individually? Yeah.
34:39
So the thing that I will say this to every young athlete
34:43
who's watching or somebody, who knows the young athlete, who
34:46
needs to hear this, make the decisions that are absolutely
34:49
positively in your heart and in your mind, the best decisions
34:52
for you not too comfortable ones.
34:54
I agree with you completely, but make the best decisions, make an
34:58
adult decision and do what you got to do.
35:01
And look if the shoe company that that you're trying to sign,
35:04
With says, you got to move to be successful, maybe that's not the
35:08
shoe company. You need to be with And I and
35:12
I'll just, I'll throw this in here.
35:13
We can move on to something else because I think, well, I'll
35:18
speak for myself. I'm offended by the notion that
35:23
person X is not a quote professional coach because they
35:28
have a actual salary from a university.
35:32
I've been told that directly I know people have said that about
35:37
Sir Lucius. We talked about last week The
35:40
last I checked lucious had more athletes in the meat and spent
35:44
more time coaching than anybody else more than a few combined.
35:48
And I'm like, so let me get this straight.
35:51
I get paid to coach athletes, but I'm not a professional.
35:56
And you professional people get paid differently to coach
36:01
athletes. And when you screw it up, that's
36:03
supposed to be. All right.
36:05
Like that doesn't make any sense to me.
36:07
So, last I checked in with Her profession, you're in.
36:11
If you get paid to do the job, you're a professional.
36:14
So why is there some kind of segregation if you will between,
36:20
who's cutting the checks and how we get delineate it, as
36:23
professional versus not that makes absolutely no sense to me
36:27
and it actually is quite offensive.
36:32
Got it. There are no Holcomb complete
36:35
differently when we started that conversation.
36:38
That's okay. Because a lot was said in a lot
36:39
was Unreal. What we do choose?
36:41
What we did sort of this I know. Right?
36:43
So all right lane 2. Considered a thing, Britain and
36:52
a bee attack the world record from 1988, which was 315 17 next
36:58
year. So again, that's, it's different
37:01
for all we just saw Sid. I thing, Britain and Audi Okay,
37:08
one is still still class answer before.
37:10
He says, it depends depends on the order.
37:15
Well yes, it absolutely depends on comes back to what we were
37:30
just talking about. Do those four, women have the
37:32
talent to take down that record? Absolutely, absolutely.
37:36
But it's going to be about what their careers look like moving
37:41
forward. Yes, right.
37:44
Like, Sid at He too is the most established and the most
37:48
successful right now. She's so bored with her primary
37:51
event. She's going to go on to the next
37:53
thing, right? So ain't nobody worried about
37:55
Sid. But what's Abby's life going to
37:58
look like? Now, moving forward as a pro.
38:01
A rookie Pro is written turning pro or is she going back to
38:06
Arkansas? A thing is seems to be solid and
38:10
on the same type of track as as it has been on, right?
38:15
She's got back-to-back Gold's World in Olympics.
38:18
Hmm. But is she gonna be ready to be
38:21
the low 48 High 47 girl that she probably needs to be for that
38:25
record to go for a 4x4. That's not what she get paid to
38:28
do. Right?
38:29
Yeah. So do they have the talent?
38:30
Absolutely. But it's much more about what
38:32
order they're going to run in and what the two youngest ones
38:37
are looking like as rookies, because it's a totally different
38:40
game next year for those two, so, I like the question but I
38:48
feel like a pigeon holes us a little bit because there's a,
38:51
there's, an assumption made there.
38:53
The assumption is that that's the best for, and I'll say this.
39:00
You are terrible Assumption of anything here.
39:15
More beautiful, people can break this record and here you come
39:19
walk around the block. Hey, we didn't put those legs in
39:22
there. That's the names that were
39:24
thrown to challenge the record. That's the question because
39:40
another group of people just ran 317, so of course they can
39:44
challenge the record. No question.
39:45
About it. But this is America.
39:47
We don't challenge account and question.
39:49
Clearly needs to be yes we can't do a yes and and maybe that's
39:54
what I wanted to do in the first place.
39:56
But yes, but the question changes it back all I'm saying
40:06
is this I don't think there's any doubt that they can
40:10
challenge the record. But I will say this about this
40:13
record as I have about the men's four by four.
40:16
Difficulty is not in having the talent to do so.
40:21
Because the team that has the record was chasing the line by
40:25
loading the room. 315. Yep.
40:28
The difficulty you have in this is at this stage of the world
40:34
landscape we live in. Even if you put the right for
40:38
and they run the right order, two and a half.
40:42
Almost three legs are going to have to do those things by their
40:46
Lonesome. Yes amended.
40:48
Yeah. And that is incredibly
40:50
difficult. So this this is why this is why
40:55
like, I feel we are missing out on.
40:58
So many 3430 classic shows like that men's four by four, when
41:08
you, when you hear about what happened, behind the scenes and
41:12
the conversations they had amongst themselves to go out and
41:18
do what they did. Those are the kind of
41:20
conversations the Woman's four by one.
41:24
When you hear about what happened prior to that, these
41:27
are stories that have to be told like this, these this current
41:32
generation has to understand like it's deeper than just
41:36
winning the gold is deeper than just like those for when you
41:40
talk about those quartets. They had some real conversations
41:46
and they had some real Challenge and it wasn't necessarily
41:49
pretty. But the other understanding was,
41:52
are we gonna do this or not? Are we going to go out there and
41:56
do this or not? Okay.
41:58
Right. And I would love for these
42:00
stories to be told I will say this out of those four, the
42:04
question mark that I would have is a we talking about a be doing
42:09
the same volume of work. Is she just did this year?
42:14
Like that's. That would be the only question
42:16
mark. I would have about this.
42:18
I think it's physically impossible for a female.
42:21
Professional Sprinter to run 57 race.
42:23
Funny. Well, there's you answering my
42:25
question. Like, I don't think they're
42:27
fifty Seven races available on the two or the to and both
42:41
relays. Yes,
43:06
that's 2.5 and you're there. Rip troop.
43:13
And now you're just running in the breeze on.
43:14
Anchor leg. Just like exactly.
43:16
Let's go see going on 47. No matter what kind of leagues
43:18
he has, right? What do you got?
43:22
I think, how far I want to dig down this Rabbit Hole those for
43:27
can fish or do it. I think missing the competition
43:31
is actually the problem period. Sydney just went out there and
43:34
played 47 and I was predicted, she's gonna go 4690, just had to
43:39
her Legend just cuz And coming off the turn, I was like, yep,
43:43
he's about to do it but everyone else, you know, the question
43:48
about a be a professional season with her Fitness level and her
43:52
foundation, is she showed not having to run 57 races and
43:56
thinks she runs fast. Honestly, she just proven the
44:01
fact, but I think they need the competition which leads me to
44:05
attend Central issue of, I think World Championships needs to be
44:08
restructured. It's not the Olympics and What
44:11
is it that Waf now? I think we change the name of
44:14
it. They need to change the
44:16
qualification standards in the rules because honestly the
44:19
competitions there. It's just all in the same
44:21
uniform we could put two teams on the track you never could
44:24
ago. That record will go.
44:28
You put two Americans know, God or what?
44:33
We'd literally left for girls. On the side.
44:36
They can easily drive at least their losses.
44:38
You don't you don't think we could produce the world record
44:40
and a 3/16 317 team behind them. I do.
44:56
Second and 45 and be who would team a.
44:59
Oh my God you're gonna help me out with my you know I'm well as
45:03
we can't help you out because, you know, for sure.
45:06
Yeah, I think of you conc, if you gonna come at me with this
45:10
dalila for sure, the Lillet Elite the digs here and somebody
45:16
okay. So first of all, those four
45:18
people cannot be. Those four people.
45:21
I didn't know. Okay, I will give you guys this
45:57
if they all show up in absolute Peak form.
46:01
Okay, yeah and world's, yeah. So wait says, we're way down the
46:06
floor. Decal rabbit hole right now
46:07
solution. So here we go, here we go. 50.50
46:12
point across, the board is 320, yes, sir, 49 49 across the
46:18
board's, 316, you're telling me that the B team, we don't have
46:23
for women that can give us 49 point splits.
46:27
Course we do. We didn't have a female in the
46:30
freakin final of the 400 but all of that but we put no matter,
46:34
but wait a minute. But we know.
46:36
Talitha can run 49, she's done it.
46:38
Oh sorry forthe name is Kendall Ellis Kendall for sure has
46:42
proven she can do that. Waddling Jonathan's has done
46:44
that. Oh boy even Rogers.
46:47
Ray Vaughan. I am going to be.
46:49
I am going to plead but we call it the fifth or something cause
46:54
you're not going to Down this rabbit hole.
47:26
They push me here. I was trying to be good.
47:28
I tried to plead the fifth. Okay, did you not watch?
47:32
Kindle Ellis? 150. 26, what are shearing?
47:35
Only 51 seconds. Yeah.
47:41
And John says, Walk Off The Track.
47:44
Yeah, sir. All I will grasping at straws,
47:47
the mayor speak for himself. All I'm saying is this last I
47:53
checked the silver medal position at this at this world
47:57
championship was higher than 320.
48:00
I don't like you Yeah,
48:27
the question was not. Do we have the two best for you?
48:58
We all know that shoe companies tend to give sprinters big money
49:04
to run, 100, right? So so here's what I'm going to
49:09
say. The expectation is going to be
49:11
the Abby attempts to make every team in the 100 and the 200 when
49:15
we agree, like I don't think they paid or seven hundred grand
49:19
to be the 200 Specialists who runs both relays.
49:24
But let's be clear. That's what her career should
49:29
be. She should be a 200-meter
49:33
specialist. Who runs on both relays Allyson
49:36
Felix, because the only other human being to do what we are.
49:41
Now, quote, unquote asking a be to do, was Flo-Jo in eighty
49:45
eight hundred, two hundred 4 by 1, 4, by 4.
49:51
And we're not going to go down that rabbit hole.
49:54
Do you want to throw Marion in there?
49:56
Do you want you wanna do this? Oh, oh God.
50:30
Let's be clear and so lucious and I, we've done deep dives
50:33
into this and talked about this. The Europeans control our Sport
50:39
and they manipulate what they can manipulate to level the
50:42
playing field as much as they can.
50:44
It was not coincidental that the 800 was an hour and 25 minutes
50:48
or whatever before the 4 by 4. Okay, so let's not look, let's
50:54
not lean real, heavy into the thing mode on the split thing
50:57
either because that schedules probably not changing for the
51:00
better for us either. Okay, so and I totally agree
51:05
with that, and I thank you for saying that, and I want to say
51:09
this and I mean, it's like I understand where you guys are
51:13
going. If everybody shows up in Peak
51:17
condition at their absolute best, in their Bull of doing.
51:22
We have two teams that can run 350, you're right.
51:24
Yes. But I am going to put a
51:26
challenge out there and include myself within this challenge,
51:30
ladies and gentlemen, and the United States of America, we
51:33
must do better with doing this work, because we are not good.
51:36
Right? We must do better.
51:41
That's much better. Agreed.
51:44
Agreed, please. Hey, but you know what?
51:47
I will say this so far. I mean, look the, the American
51:54
men had the worst speed and power Olympics ever had a year
52:01
ago and we rebound to have the best world championships we've
52:05
ever had, right? So I guess maybe, I'll say that.
52:08
There's hope, right? That that they will take your
52:12
challenge and the overall Global challenge that we got to go home
52:16
and get get, right? Because we didn't win a medal in
52:18
the women's 100 or 200 or 100 hurdles.
52:23
Listen. The the most interesting thing
52:25
about the the debate that we actually had is that the women
52:30
who were thrown to us for this question, not one of them is a
52:32
400-meter run. So the right the idea that
52:37
that's the question just makes Lucius points of yes 100%.
52:44
Of course, I'm just because just because be clear, the B-Team
52:48
isn't all quarter miles in there, right?
52:51
No BT. 18 only has one of them on there, so hey it is what it
52:58
is, right? I need to be running the for
53:16
where y'all out here and it tastes fairy tale.
53:20
I'm running 100, there's only one Frank Hurley.
53:23
Some young, I used to, I used to tell a lot of fact, if you find
53:30
a sub 50 quarter mile, ER, they're also sub 11 and sep 22,
53:35
2013 6, historic more so than the men that's why the man is
53:39
such a big deal right now because it's a new thing women
53:43
need to pay attention. When Torrance would randomly
53:46
jump into a 4 out of the blocks in the middle of her season and
53:49
drops 4970 walk off, and that's when 49-7 was smoking fast.
53:54
When did you turn around? 21 7 and 10 8, didn't didn't she
53:58
lead off the u.s. relay in 48 when you believe.
54:02
So it was the same in the same year to Michael split 42 now.
54:07
91. So yes, um yeah, I need to go
54:12
ahead, suck it up, move on up, get your money, but if you're
54:19
going to move up, be coached by an appropriate test, all right,
54:28
that's good Lane. Three with the addition of the
54:35
mixed 4 by 4, which we know is going.
54:37
To stay, which one individual event track.
54:40
And then field, would you lose from the typical schedule?
54:44
So, none of this mythical events.
54:50
So one track event, one field event, which we do away with
54:55
With the addition of the mixed 4x4, keep the mix 4x4.
55:00
Like I love this question, but I'm appalled that somewhere.
55:03
The question is swallowing is here to stay when we drop but
55:08
you move out of the schedule now that the Mix 4 by 4 is here to
55:12
stay. Yeah.
55:13
Man and woman 50k race walk done.
55:19
I mean, that's why I said the typical.
55:23
I was kidding because I know that. track on the like,
55:26
actually in the arena try and You know, like I don't know why
55:52
we have to do subtraction because we added something
55:56
right? All right and that's how I so
55:58
look that's just me. I'm not subtracting anything and
56:02
anybody is anybody you even open your mouth and say you're going
56:05
to take out it's going to be absolutely appalled at the idea
56:10
to start punching people. Tell you this right now and then
56:31
and then literally, like, take 30 minutes, clear your brain,
56:34
right? Like make it like ginger, you
56:35
clean your palette and then watch any any iteration of track
56:39
and field service to us in the United States.
56:42
You're like that's not the same sport.
56:43
Yeah, exactly. Right.
56:45
So at the end of the day, it's there's nothing wrong with the
56:47
sport. It's not even too
56:48
time-consuming. It's just package.
56:51
Terribly and lazily in this country, right?
56:55
Like the 3-ring circus is what makes the sport, awesome, right?
56:59
But we were all sitting, look. We were sitting in the stadium
57:03
at Worlds, trying to figure out why we had such big time gaps.
57:07
Yes. Absolutely.
57:11
I mean, and this is the other part Lamar like the its Rhythm
57:17
like get some sort of Rhythm, if And as you said to pile on to
57:22
what you just said, if you do have the pleasure of watching a
57:26
meet in Europe on TV, it is moving, moving moving moving.
57:32
As soon as he bends over there is no break.
57:35
It is on to the next on to the next and you are enjoying the
57:40
meet. You are in it.
57:42
Your heart rates, is is here. It never really comes down
57:46
because they show you the whole 5K without showing you the whole
57:49
5K. They show you, they show you the
57:52
beginning. It show you the intricate moves
57:54
in the middle and they show you the last two laps.
57:56
You said the whole thing and then you watching the jumps and
58:00
the Vault and you watching the throws and and all this stuff is
58:03
happening. So they're basically recreating
58:06
what you see when you're in the stands right on TV.
58:11
We still have not figured that out on this part of the this,
58:15
this side of the water. We just have I don't think that
58:19
it's even a necessary. I don't think it's even that we
58:22
haven't figured it out. I just don't think we care to
58:25
and this the existence of this question again is offensive and
58:31
I really, really really load the people that say things like this
58:38
who are inside our sport because there are coaches that believe
58:42
event. X y&z should be cut.
58:44
There are administrators who believe that there are right.
58:48
Hers, who never pay attention to our sport until there's an
58:51
Olympics or world championship and then come with these
58:54
opinions, like oh, it'd be so much cooler.
58:56
If you took out the 10K or whatever the hell you want to
58:58
take out there is no event. That doesn't have a purpose.
59:02
I don't enjoy, I don't like the mix relay, but when they
59:06
invented it, I said it's a cool gimmick that people will find
59:09
entertaining. The only thing that's currently
59:12
wrong with the mixed relay is you is you took out the coolest
59:15
thing about it, which was strategy.
59:18
She when it first came in the coaches and we all know, we got
59:21
issues with coaches. Got to choose man, woman,
59:24
whatever leg you want, right? Go figure it out.
59:27
That was really interesting. The fact that they've watered it
59:30
down and said, nope, the men are going to run against the men and
59:32
the women are going to run against the women.
59:33
Make it less interesting, but but I died much less, but I
59:37
digress, there's nothing there's no event that needs to go.
59:41
The media people and entertainment people.
59:44
You know, the people get paid do entertainment business in this
59:48
nation, need to do a better job of the path of the package.
59:52
That's absolutely true. The only criticism that I have
59:55
from my experience as a spectator at world was the
59:58
downtime. And here's the crazy thing about
1:00:00
the downtime everybody that talks this nonsense about the
1:00:03
time consumption of our sport from a viewing standpoint.
1:00:06
What do they all say? We need a to our package.
1:00:09
Well shit. Every evening session was
1:00:12
exactly that. It was two hours.
1:00:14
I guess what? I was sitting around in between
1:00:16
events, way too long waiting on the next thing to happen, the DJ
1:00:20
was cute and all. But no like so.
1:00:24
So here's some. Here's a question for you client
1:00:27
answer. Lucius, and Lamar and big league
1:00:29
and mayor that you all of you were there, right?
1:00:33
Could the meat of been done in six days, 100% equipment
1:00:37
hundred. Put it have been as much of a
1:00:39
strain on the air. Leads or whatever.
1:00:41
Been. Okay, do you think the schedule
1:00:44
could have been condensed morning sessions, or how, how,
1:00:49
how could you have made the actual event less than 10 days?
1:00:54
Oh, easy word. First woman, there was no excuse
1:00:58
and it was actually detrimental and all of us watched the 400
1:01:03
men. I'm with somebody in a room.
1:01:07
Felt really really good about those rest days.
1:01:11
Coaches and athletes did not feel really, really good about
1:01:14
running the race didn't around for two days, running another
1:01:19
race sit around for another day and run another race.
1:01:24
There's a reason why the, for the four by fours release on the
1:01:27
men's side. For the court of Auditors,
1:01:30
actually looked like better runs for them because they finally
1:01:33
got to establish a rhythm. And you said that earlier
1:01:36
Governor. They got to establish a rhythm.
1:01:39
Do you want to run them, right? Into the ground know, you don't
1:01:42
want to do a. We did years ago and under
1:01:44
forget I went over this they took a back and round for
1:01:48
Rounds. They took the highs and ran one
1:01:50
around today for three days. Yes, I remember first seeing it
1:01:53
going. Oh, finally some rest and Alan
1:01:56
said, this is terrible and it's it's almost that wasn't
1:01:58
terrible. He said, bro, I got for racism
1:02:01
for days. He had say hey look who's like,
1:02:04
say less as we say but to your point about the scheduling, of
1:02:08
course, we have to stop it for Clyde your point about the to
1:02:12
our package in the evenings and World temperatures have been
1:02:15
making this mistake for years. The problem we got two hours and
1:02:20
I remember going to the Olympics and World same way, it was for
1:02:25
races and one final. Yeah.
1:02:29
What are we doing? And then you think to yourself,
1:02:32
we all want to make money. We all want to up the ante in
1:02:35
the sport. So we're like, okay, TVs
1:02:37
dictating this as cool. But then you go and watch a TV.
1:02:40
Package and in between races, they're not showing you the
1:02:44
dribble-drive long jump. The disc is the high jump.
1:02:47
They're going to commercial this showing you.
1:02:49
Hey let's go talk to Sir Lucius back in Gainesville, which we
1:02:52
actually found back in January and show this of Peace for 20
1:02:58
minutes and go back to Commercial.
1:03:00
And then they want to tease you. Oh, and Chris happens going to
1:03:03
run at 1500 to enter decathlon. Well, he's actually throwing a
1:03:06
javelin right now. You got to show that.
1:03:08
Yeah, but you don't, so it does definitely come down the
1:03:12
packaging because we've all been to Crystal Palace is the best
1:03:15
produced television mean, I've ever seen in my life.
1:03:19
I managed to watch it mean for two hours.
1:03:22
I got to watch our gurus Challenger world record.
1:03:24
And at the same time in this two-hour window, they actually
1:03:27
told the public what the long jump was in a real quick segment
1:03:33
from the field, a field reporter.
1:03:35
So it is definitely packaging and presentation and down times
1:03:40
you can have the gun One of the TV we want to be, we want to
1:03:42
give how much time. How much time was there between
1:03:46
the rounds, right? Woodrow, I can tell you.
1:03:51
It was the all of the call room times were spent were spread out
1:04:02
by exactly. Eight minutes.
1:04:04
Yeah, and actually shorter used to be, it was 10 for years.
1:04:08
It was dead for years. I mean, you know, there was a
1:04:13
lot of downtime like you. The question that the governor
1:04:18
threw out there was what would be the effects if you shut it?
1:04:21
You know, close it, six days. Well some people would have to
1:04:24
make some different choices and that's and that's all in the
1:04:27
game, right? Like maybe you can't do the one
1:04:29
two, double, if the whole meet start to finish the six days and
1:04:34
you know that it is what it is, right?
1:04:36
But that's why you make choices. Why your professional?
1:04:39
That's why you got to coach the way you coached the, the most
1:04:43
egregious stretch that they did, which is what the row was just
1:04:46
losing team in the 400-meter thing.
1:04:47
And why did they do that to make freely mix relay?
1:04:51
Could get the better people on the track for the other
1:04:56
countries? Not an antique USA and it
1:04:58
worked. I mean, listen, Ava structure,
1:05:00
the rules in the real 4x4, you can run for women in the prelim
1:05:04
and bring four new girls out for the final button.
1:05:07
Yes, relay You have to keep three of the four from the
1:05:10
first, from the qualifying round.
1:05:12
All that is about is getting Paulino and Bowl on track to run
1:05:17
down the c-team Americans, right?
1:05:19
Like that's what it's for and that's fine but they screwed up
1:05:24
the open for the Open for men. In the open for women were
1:05:27
lackluster finals rides. They were the lamest races in
1:05:31
the me. Cuz some of those individuals
1:05:34
ran six races in. WoW.
1:05:40
I mean, look, if the meat was seven days, you could do the
1:05:44
one, two, double with a day off in the middle.
1:05:48
That's what they did. Anyway.
1:05:55
Gasps. Oh my God.
1:05:57
Thirteen or fourteen World Championships were done with 4
1:06:04
oz. Yeah.
1:06:05
And don't get me started on the Olympic schedule, which had
1:06:09
finals. In the morning sessions.
1:06:11
I don't want to see the finals in the morning sessions.
1:06:14
That's ridiculous. No.
1:06:46
Hey, I know. All right, in keeping time, I'm
1:06:52
going to move us on to, would you rather and it's something
1:06:55
we're coming back because we've taken a couple weeks off but so
1:06:59
lucious Europe, sir. I was like I hope this chased
1:07:05
his face changes because you did so mayor.
1:07:09
I just want to warn you when that whenever I'm on this I get
1:07:13
the most suspect questions in the history of man.
1:07:16
I don't know. Taking it out.
1:07:36
It's definitely not one absolute Solutions.
1:07:43
Are you ready sir? Yes.
1:07:45
Ma'am. I am.
1:07:46
All right. Would you rather team up with
1:07:48
Batman or Superman? Oh, super got it.
1:07:55
Would you rather be chronically overdressed or underdressed?
1:08:00
Honda. Would you rather lose your AC or
1:08:05
lose your internet for the rest of your life?
1:08:10
Internet. I deplore being hot.
1:08:13
So this crap with the AC, I'm rocking with my AC.
1:08:32
I'm not giving that up. Would you like your Gatorade
1:08:36
dump, like, Your celebratory jump be substituted with maple
1:08:40
syrup or chocolate sauce. The chocolate sauce.
1:09:06
Are they gonna come out? He won't be a sticky.
1:09:13
Would you rather always be 10 minutes late or 20 minutes?
1:09:16
Early, twenty minutes early. Mmm, would you rather always
1:09:21
drive in Reverse or ride a scooter everywhere?
1:09:26
- Cooter every week. You do not want me driving
1:09:32
anywhere backwards. I'm kind of here for lucious on
1:09:36
the scooter. I was
1:09:53
Oh, I know. Not be able to hold my head
1:09:59
again now. So, would you rather not be able
1:10:01
to hold your facial react or hide your facial reactions or
1:10:06
not? Be able to hold your tongue.
1:10:07
So either way, it's coming out. Which one is coming out first?
1:10:10
Or is he like for me? Those are one in the same
1:10:11
country. I'm waiting on the other
1:10:28
question to be sent in the chat. Okay, sir, Lucius.
1:10:43
Yes, I would you, rather, would you rather coach and athlete
1:10:47
that won three World Championships and never meddled
1:10:53
in any Olympics? Or an athlete that meddled in to
1:11:01
Olympics. No, that's too easy.
1:11:03
Meddled, in one Olympics, and never made the final in any
1:11:07
World Championships. The ladder.
1:11:15
The Olympic medal is more sort of person.
1:11:20
So, in other words, you rather coach Elaine, literally, you
1:11:27
know, there's some reason bigger ones, I mean like really laying
1:11:31
one of the greatest careers ever, right?
1:11:35
Would never. You know, he won't, he won world
1:11:38
seems like six times. And then there's actual you have
1:11:44
to, you have to return this book people, that great, that Greg is
1:11:48
actually part of the conversation about.
1:11:50
Yeah, go hard with, yeah, because it won't need to get the
1:11:53
Olympics. It's almost Dvorak won three,
1:11:57
World Championships, broke the world record, and never won an
1:12:00
Olympics. And it's like, people forget
1:12:03
like, how great he was like, Hey guys, in the conversation.
1:12:12
All right. I don't want to be, I don't want
1:12:15
to be mean to certain Lucius. But I feel like I feel like
1:12:21
Lamar wants me to ask him this question.
1:12:23
Oh, I do not even know what it is, but I definitely want you
1:12:26
to. Would you rather?
1:12:30
Would you rather be responsible for the American record at 200
1:12:35
meters or the world record in the 110 hurts?
1:12:41
Hey, it's not like you can't get Bo.
1:12:44
That's what that's my answer. Yes, we know.
1:12:49
I will put them in order of likely to happen.
1:12:52
I, you know, clearly on closer to the world, we are closer to
1:12:58
the world record in the 110. So I think that that would be,
1:13:03
my first responsibility is to get that with, put the other one
1:13:07
on Deck. That fair is fair.
1:13:13
It's about a sphere of an answer as I thought you'd get okay.
1:13:21
And where you're at? You're allowed to chime in on
1:13:23
this, by the way. Yeah.
1:13:36
I'm not giving up anything there.
1:13:42
I'm still trying to too. I'm drawing a blank right now.
1:13:53
I'm actually drawing a blank iPad.
1:13:56
I don't have one that would be like sufficient ask that thing
1:14:02
in the chat because I don't even fully understand it.
1:14:06
Ask it. Ask it.
1:14:12
Okay. Would you rather your blessings
1:14:14
to be verbal or tangible? Wow.
1:14:20
Wow. What's that?
1:14:21
A bad? Cause I thought I would get
1:14:27
spun. So I don't, I don't understand
1:14:30
to mind in the gutter. That's all right.
1:14:32
Yes. To that months and especially
1:14:42
young people think. I'll get that one.
1:14:44
But anyways, so I, you know, for me, I think.
1:14:49
That's a tough one because verbal I don't, I'm not even
1:14:54
sure what a verbal blessing is to be honest with you.
1:14:57
You know and tangible blessings and I'm not a tangible.
1:15:06
No I'm not a materialistic guy. You know I'm more my blessings
1:15:10
come from. Me watching, others prosper from
1:15:15
things that I'm able to contribute to.
1:15:17
So I don't know if that's verbal or tangible for others but
1:15:20
that's not either for me. So tangible thing, I tell people
1:15:24
this all the time like you don't attach your sense to yourself,
1:15:29
the tangible material things because those things can go
1:15:31
away. You know I if I lose the car
1:15:35
we've had like some damage to my car or a house or something like
1:15:38
that. You can go get another one but
1:15:40
you know the blessings that are are the people in your lives and
1:15:43
that the way they touch you, or you touch them, those are things
1:15:46
that maybe those are the tangible things.
1:15:47
You talk about, you can't replace those things.
1:15:49
So that wasn't a bad question at all.
1:15:52
By the way that, you know, Our career track and field.
1:16:11
Athlete ranked in the top. 10 for 15 years, never won a medal.
1:16:19
or a one-hit wonder how the correct the career because I
1:16:26
mean because the one-hit wonder soon as you call someone a one
1:16:30
hit wonder that means that there's some issues surrounding
1:16:36
so you don't get blamed for that one.
1:16:58
Elevations, I'm talking about the one hit wonder, is using the
1:17:01
person who has the issue drones distractions that the person
1:17:05
that has the issues of hearing can try this one, you know?
1:17:09
And I've dealt with these people, right?
1:17:11
You know, we go have a good ear and then hey, you can't coach.
1:17:17
Hey, it's the girl's back on my doorstep, three, that three
1:17:24
years later but anyway, that's a different story.
1:17:26
I won't go there. But at the end of the day, we
1:17:32
all appreciate you choose, not so shady.
1:17:40
What she should have believed you put that other question in
1:17:43
there. Thank you to sort of.
1:17:51
I want to ask another would you rather question?
1:17:53
I just want to ask a real question.
1:17:56
What? And this is not a shot at the
1:17:58
two people who are currently have the job, I promise you.
1:18:00
It is what would it take? For you to agree to be the
1:18:06
official like nobody bothers you u.s. real a coach only in there
1:18:13
it is. Nobody bothers me a name that
1:18:15
that's all. I mean.
1:18:16
See here's the thing with me with the relay thing, right?
1:18:20
I'm not going to work well with a relay because I know what the
1:18:24
40 to 50 letters of the alphabet and I know how to use it, right?
1:18:28
And so therefore people don't want me in that position because
1:18:33
they can't Me and believe me they can't call me.
1:18:36
And threaten me because I'm the guy that says, hey, if you don't
1:18:40
want to follow the rules then you got can't run real, are you
1:18:42
girl? Come on Reba?
1:18:43
Well, you know because at the end of the day when you stop and
1:18:47
think about it, like that's the problem.
1:18:49
We allow coaches and ages to illness people hostage, right?
1:18:54
And I'm not going to be able to awesome It's just that something
1:18:58
like I just said, there's no other answer
1:19:15
for everybody thinks they figured this thing out.
1:19:17
Listen of live. This thing or been through this
1:19:20
thing to most successful relay coaches in this country's
1:19:25
history of He's been decision-makers.
1:19:28
If you try to please people, you will fail and it's been proven
1:19:32
too many times. And I know, two coaches who made
1:19:36
very unpopular decisions. And my group was on the wrong
1:19:40
side or one of them, and that coach made me laugh.
1:19:44
He literally came out told us to her face with his decision, was
1:19:48
told us to our phase. Why he made the decision grabbed
1:19:52
a chair. Walk down in the field.
1:19:55
Sad it under the This is in Sydney, Lamar Saturday soccer,
1:20:01
go and sadness chair. And his point was real simple.
1:20:05
If you disagree come talk to me, but I doubt I'm changing my mind
1:20:11
and we want to go and the rest was history.
1:20:14
The other coach, we all know and love and he made his decisions.
1:20:18
Even care what you, how you felt what she had to say.
1:20:21
And he won the gold medal every year he was in charge.
1:20:24
They had to create ways to get him out.
1:20:26
Bye and what solution said is really simple.
1:20:30
And I know people said I'm going to try and understand.
1:20:32
Of course, I understand. You kidding, you, you're in
1:20:36
charge of a bunch of different moving parts that you don't
1:20:39
have. They're not your athletes.
1:20:42
So you got to make a clean decisions and you move forward
1:20:45
Win, Lose or Draw and that's the problem I think to lucian's to
1:20:48
you're answering to people forgetting track.
1:20:51
Yeah, there's pressure to womb but you got to make a decision
1:20:53
one of the wrong and live with you.
1:20:57
But I think it's wild and there was so much drama like in the
1:21:00
end because at the end of the day, like listen, we all got to
1:21:03
give I'm assuming it was Michelle's decision, but like
1:21:07
look, every single one of us question.
1:21:09
Maybe not question, like this is wrong, but we all questioned
1:21:13
Jenna prandini running third leg.
1:21:15
And they're only being one. Third leg in the whole damn
1:21:17
camp. We all questioned that, right?
1:21:19
That's the end of the day. History will show for sure.
1:21:24
It was a genius move because we don't get out of the semis of
1:21:26
Jenna. Prandini.
1:21:26
Doesn't grab that young lady's head.
1:21:28
Cook it on it, right? And that's why she was on the
1:21:31
relay, right? Because she sat in in and in and
1:21:34
in, and in it, that's not why she's on her way.
1:21:36
That's why she needed to be able to really, but that's how
1:21:38
there's no Melanie that's why that's why she needs to be one
1:21:45
of those. We all questioned that decision
1:21:51
And I guess I feel like it's like look if you can make that
1:21:54
kind of decision which clearly wasn't popular in every Camp,
1:21:56
right? Like make me get all the
1:21:59
information, make a decision and stand and stand by it and it and
1:22:02
then you'll be fine. Then you'd be fine and you can
1:22:06
use that ability unpleasantly. Surprised that there are more
1:22:10
Shenanigans involved with the 4x4 can.
1:22:13
They're all wonderful. Yes, of course there is right
1:22:18
because America is Entitled to those two gold medals.
1:22:23
Mmm. I just want to make sure that
1:22:25
mine is on there because that's going to give me a medal.
1:22:28
And I'm headed to my medal count and because we can't mess this
1:22:31
up, right? Like I mean, we almost won.
1:22:35
We almost won the mix real a relay with as client calls at
1:22:38
the c-team. So, like we've already discussed
1:22:40
on this show that we got the, a team, and the B team in the
1:22:43
world. So at the end of the day, like
1:22:46
it don't matter, which for on the track, we're going to win.
1:22:50
So let's just make it efficient, you're right, but I'm saying the
1:22:53
men's the men's women's 4 by 4's, that that is what there's
1:22:56
always going to be Shenanigans there.
1:22:58
Because that's it. Look, that's Steve.
1:22:59
That's the way you collect the medal, right?
1:23:02
That's how you create gold medalists.
1:23:05
Yeah. Well probably just sparked
1:23:10
another conversation for another time but we'll leave that for
1:23:15
the next episodes. So again sake of time gentlemen,
1:23:20
thank you so much. The mayor, thank you so much for
1:23:24
your time. Thanks for playing with us.
1:23:27
Hope you enjoyed our sandbox. All the time is my guys love it.
1:23:34
London's. Well, we had a chat with you
1:23:37
cousin? Yes, I sure hope everyone has a
1:23:41
good time. Gentleman on other continents.
1:23:43
Be safe. Make sure to get home safe but
1:23:47
otherwise, we'll see you soon. Bye, everyone.
1:23:53
When the lights come on the road stick to running with the
1:23:56
lights. Come on opponent.
1:23:57
Smash the running. Would you like you all hot
1:24:00
knife? Wouldn't be here but we have
1:24:24
stopped raining. You got it under Stripes, gotta
1:24:27
catch Stars. Show you how to fight for?
1:24:29
Sure. So you are you lack experience,
1:24:32
but still you want to tell and who is that you talk to you
1:24:34
certain kind of small heads prevail when the backbone
1:24:38
strong, gotta keep it coming up. Won't last long.
1:24:41
That's a building sell the session and if you don't check
1:24:45
yourself and that's wrong just trying to give you the real
1:24:48
chance for. So why do you keep cutting us
1:24:51
off to a small? We put it.
1:24:52
In slow-mo. What you fast for athletics,
1:24:56
task force.