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The Late Debate | 4 February · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Wait wait, welcome the Late to play. Thanks for joining
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  Speaker 1: us on the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: I'm James Macpherson with Freilich and Caleb Bond coming up tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Could Clive Palmer save the Nationals?
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  Speaker 2: He's got pockets full of money and more than a
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  Speaker 2: few choice words for the Liberals. State of origin football
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  Speaker 2: that's new South Wales versus Queensland set to be played
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  Speaker 2: in New Zealand. Is this good for the game or
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  Speaker 2: just another example of profit being put before fans? Plus
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  Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of people let down after realizing the
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  Speaker 2: cojoined twins they'd followed on social media were never real,
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  Speaker 2: not at all. The whole thing was AI generated.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to that shortly.
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  Speaker 2: But first, City of Melbourne councilors voted last night to
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  Speaker 2: crack down on people who vandalize historic monuments, agreeing if
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  Speaker 2: you damage a monument, you pay for it. Now it's
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  Speaker 2: a great idea and not before time. You'd think the
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  Speaker 2: idea would have received unanimous but that's because you're forgetting
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  Speaker 2: about the Greens. Greens counselor Olivia Ball voted against the motion.
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  Speaker 2: She argued damage to monuments should be considered on a
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  Speaker 2: case by case basis taking into account what she calls
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  Speaker 2: historical merit.
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  Speaker 1: And community sentiment.
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  Speaker 2: In other words, vandals wouldn't need to pay for damage
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  Speaker 2: if it was agreed the monument was already unpopular and.
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  Speaker 1: If that's not bad enough.
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  Speaker 2: Right before opposing laws to punish vandals, she was promoting
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  Speaker 2: a protest on the steps of State Parliament, at which
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  Speaker 2: the steps of Parliament were vandalized with the phrase globalized
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  Speaker 2: the inter fada.
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  Speaker 1: Are we surprised by this, Caleb?
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to be surprised. I wish I was surprised. Actually,
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  Speaker 3: maybe I am just a little bit surprised, because.
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  Speaker 4: Because you would think even.
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  Speaker 3: If you agree with you know, you don't like the
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  Speaker 3: monuments and you think colonial Australia is the worst thing ever,
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  Speaker 3: that there's still a level of all counselor here and
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  Speaker 3: I've got responsibility for the budget and you know, if
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  Speaker 3: they keep coming knocking these things over, it's a bit
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  Speaker 3: of a problem for us. So we've got to balance
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  Speaker 3: the book somehow. Not even that's a good enough argument
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  Speaker 3: for this Womans Ball not sorry, doctor doctor ball. You
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  Speaker 3: know how particularly women get upset, you know they're a doctor.
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  Speaker 1: I think she's a doctor of psychology.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and this is they never and human rights law,
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  Speaker 5: they never will explain.
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  Speaker 4: It can't be.
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  Speaker 3: You can't be a medical doctor of psychology, right, You've
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  Speaker 3: done a PhD to become a doctor of psychology, and
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  Speaker 3: particularly women get really upset if you don't note that
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  Speaker 3: they're a doctor despite not being a medical doctor.
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  Speaker 4: Leaving that to one side.
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  Speaker 5: No, it is it is just a very random wow.
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  Speaker 4: Look, look, it is true. It is true. I stand,
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  Speaker 4: but men do too.
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  Speaker 6: I've know plenty of men that get deeply offended if
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  Speaker 6: you don't acknowledge their PhD in somesqa field.
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  Speaker 3: Probably right, you can send all your complaints to someone else.
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  Speaker 3: I don't particularly care. But the idea that you were saying,
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  Speaker 3: almost by a consensus, that we can start destroying public
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  Speaker 3: property and that you have no responsibility for doing so.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, at least the Greens are taking the mask
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  Speaker 3: off now and saying, yeah, we're actually just anarchists and
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  Speaker 3: everything is up for grabs. I mean, surely you know,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm not suggesting that you do this. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: please don't take this seriously. It is called satire, ladies
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  Speaker 3: and gentlemen. But if someone went around and broke all
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  Speaker 3: of the windows on her house. I hope that she
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  Speaker 3: will now agree that she shouldn't pursue charges for that,
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  Speaker 3: and no one should have to pay any compensation, and
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  Speaker 3: she should pay for the repairs.
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  Speaker 4: Forget about the insurance company, etc.
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  Speaker 3: Because if enough people agree that her windows ought to
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  Speaker 3: be broken, then surely that's fine, right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's what you're saying. If enough people think
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  Speaker 4: it's okay.
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  Speaker 3: To destroy another person's property, then good for you. No,
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  Speaker 3: she ought to be turfed out of the country along
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  Speaker 3: with all of these people who keep going around destroying
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  Speaker 3: these monuments.
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  Speaker 5: No, exactly right.
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  Speaker 6: Well, she also voted against emotion to increase CCTV coverage
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  Speaker 6: of the city, which would deter vandals and mean that
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  Speaker 6: the city could better track them.
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  Speaker 5: I just don't understand.
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  Speaker 6: It's one thing to be a lefty to be an environmentalist,
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  Speaker 6: but the Greens have gone so far beyond that. They're
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  Speaker 6: now saying they don't support law and order, they don't
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  Speaker 6: even support CCTV in a city that is being.
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  Speaker 5: Rocked by a crime crisis.
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  Speaker 6: Whose side are they on, because they're certainly not on
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  Speaker 6: the side of Melbournians or Australia. If they want to
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  Speaker 6: desecrate our monuments, erase our history, and then stop the
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  Speaker 6: council from being able to take any action against the vandals.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we often bemoan the fact that local government
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  Speaker 2: members don't focus on.
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  Speaker 1: Rates, rubbish and roads.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Well, Olivia Ball says that she views the city's
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  Speaker 2: governance through the lens of human rights.
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  Speaker 1: So when you say shouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: She be worried about budgets and things like that, she
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  Speaker 2: openly admits her entire my motive for being on council
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  Speaker 2: is to advocate for what she believes human rights. The
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  Speaker 2: other interesting thing I thought out of this story.
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  Speaker 4: Is my human right to destroy monuments.
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  Speaker 2: You know, well, if there's enough community sentiments, then fair enough.
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  Speaker 3: Oh so sorry to rights are not inalienable. The rights
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  Speaker 3: are decided by everyone Else's what you're saying.
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  Speaker 4: That's very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean they keep coming up with new human rights.
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  Speaker 2: Well, right, so Nicholas Reese, who's the Lord Mayor of Melbourne,
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  Speaker 2: He said, and I quote, it's hard to make sense
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  Speaker 2: of what's behind these attacks on monuments.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think we know now.
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  Speaker 2: People are being outright encouraged by Greens like Olivia Ball,
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  Speaker 2: who openly says, you know what, if you reckon that
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  Speaker 2: monument might not have public support, then it's open slaver.
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  Speaker 6: But the Greens whole platform as a party has just
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  Speaker 6: become about hating this country. That is all, frankly they
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  Speaker 6: stand for.
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  Speaker 5: At this point.
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  Speaker 6: How often do you actually hear them talking about the
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  Speaker 6: environment anymore?
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  Speaker 5: Climate change?
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  Speaker 1: Bob Brown looks like a Conservative, he.
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  Speaker 5: Looks like a tree Tory compared to the.
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  Speaker 2: New you'd be the latest recruit for one nation the
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  Speaker 2: way the Greens are going.
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  Speaker 4: That's yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 3: And of course all the people in the party like
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  Speaker 3: Bob Brown and he's made up in Queensland, whose name
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  Speaker 3: escapes me at the minute, and who tried to say,
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  Speaker 3: oh maybe we should, you know, stop talking about trans
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  Speaker 3: issues and talk about the environment instead of them, and
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  Speaker 3: the fellow from Queensland got chucked out of the party.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean, you.
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  Speaker 3: Say Olivia Ball is not too worried about Rhodes rates
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  Speaker 3: and rubbish, I beg to differ. I think she is
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  Speaker 3: terribly concerned with rubbish and she comprises most of the
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  Speaker 3: rubbish at Melbourne City Council. Speaking of rubbish in Melbourne,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure you saw this story today so I won't
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  Speaker 3: go through a chapter and verse. But these posters that
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  Speaker 3: were put up around parts of Melbourne, I'm sure you've
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  Speaker 3: seen the Originals by an artist called Peter Drew. He
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  Speaker 3: creates these posters of immigrants who came out to Australia
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  Speaker 3: sometime in the early nineteen hundreds and puts Australian or
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  Speaker 3: Ozzie sorry more accurately underneath them. He started doing it
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  Speaker 3: a decade ago, basically to make a political point that
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  Speaker 3: not all Australians are white.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: It's not terribly original. He's been doing it for a
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  Speaker 3: long time. They're all over the country. I'm sure you've
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  Speaker 3: seen them. But someone has come along and made a
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  Speaker 3: version of these posters with Navid Akram on it.
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  Speaker 4: And I think we've got an image here that you
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  Speaker 4: can see.
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  Speaker 3: And Navid Akram, of course, is that's the originals. There
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  Speaker 3: by the way you can see on the corner, that's
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  Speaker 3: the one that's been made. Navid Akram, of course, one
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  Speaker 3: of the shooters at Bondi.
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  Speaker 4: Now there's.
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  Speaker 3: Various ideas about who might have put this up. There's
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  Speaker 3: some suggestion it might be people on the right of
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  Speaker 3: politics who are trying to make a sort of counter
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  Speaker 3: political point to what Peter Drew has been making all
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  Speaker 3: this time about well, are you saying that can also
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  Speaker 3: be an Aussie someone who allegedly does something like that.
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  Speaker 4: There's also the suggestion that it.
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  Speaker 3: Might be coming from the extreme left and almost glorifying
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  Speaker 3: the actions of what happened on December fourteen at Bondai. Regardless,
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  Speaker 3: I think we can all agree that that is repugnant
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  Speaker 3: and anyone who would even think to do such a
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  Speaker 3: thing once again, doesn't really belong in this country. This
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  Speaker 3: is the account of one Jewish man in Melbourne who
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  Speaker 3: saw the posters and talk to three IW this morning.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah we're going on the morning run and yeah it
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  Speaker 7: came across that one and yeah, it run OneD me.
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  Speaker 7: I was so shocked to see that. But Jackie, it's no,
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  Speaker 7: it's nothing really new for us members of the Jewish community.
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  Speaker 7: We see stickers everywhere, we see Israel flaggs, you know,
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  Speaker 7: with boycott signs and red lines through it. But this
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  Speaker 7: is probably the worst I've seen and something that you know,
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  Speaker 7: really really surprising.
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  Speaker 3: And I note he says it at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the you know, really really surprising. And again we took
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  Speaker 3: about your surprised by any of this, and once again
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  Speaker 3: part of me isn't because you allow division to fester
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  Speaker 3: and be sown in the country and this is the
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  Speaker 3: logical conclusion of where we end up. Unfortunately, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it is awful who would even think to make, for
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  Speaker 3: whatever their weird reasons might have been, to think to
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  Speaker 3: put a poster like that up, and particularly at the
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  Speaker 3: moment in the context of what has happened, is just
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  Speaker 3: beyond the pale.
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  Speaker 1: What did you think, Fred?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think it was a deliberate attack on Jews
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  Speaker 2: promoting this guy as some kind of hero or is
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  Speaker 2: it ironic? You know this guy represents Australia, not on
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  Speaker 2: your life.
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  Speaker 1: Was it irony or an a tech on jew?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 6: I can see how it could be interpreted both ways,
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  Speaker 6: and that's why I think we need to know who
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  Speaker 6: is behind this poster and what the intention was, because
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  Speaker 6: I think there is an interesting political critique in it
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  Speaker 6: as well, because the original point of the posters was
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  Speaker 6: to say anyone can be an Australian. Let's universalize the
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  Speaker 6: identity of an Australian, and I guess you could read
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  Speaker 6: this poster as saying, well, is he an Australian because
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  Speaker 6: clearly he doesn't share our values. And this is an
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  Speaker 6: example of how we have literally imported hatred, We have
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  Speaker 6: imported radical Islamic ideology that has claimed fifteen innocent lives.
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  Speaker 6: That is not Australian, that is not what it means
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  Speaker 6: to be an Aussie. All of that is allegedly, of course,
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  Speaker 6: So I think if you read it from that perspective,
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  Speaker 6: it's actually quite a profound poster. But it's deeply uncomfortable
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  Speaker 6: and I just don't think that is the way you
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  Speaker 6: should be making that point, especially one month after the
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  Speaker 6: Bondai massacre.
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  Speaker 2: And if that was the point you're trying to be ironic,
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  Speaker 2: perhaps it's a little too subtle to make the point
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  Speaker 2: because it could be open to being the purpose being
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  Speaker 2: to glorify, which is why.
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  Speaker 3: We're having rists discussion, right. No one actually knows really
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  Speaker 3: why it's there. So if that was your aim, if
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  Speaker 3: your aim was to try and bring up that political critique,
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  Speaker 3: you've failed in doing so because you've now got people
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  Speaker 3: in Melbourne feeling terribly uncomfortable that these are photo of
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  Speaker 3: an alleged terror rest.
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  Speaker 6: This was in Melbourne, where you do have radical, rabid
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  Speaker 6: leftists who do glorify Harmas, who.
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  Speaker 5: Have openly that.
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  Speaker 6: There are left wing activists who've talked about how this
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  Speaker 6: massacre was really all the fault of the Zionists.
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  Speaker 5: So we actually don't know what the intention was behind this.
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  Speaker 6: And to be honest, it wouldn't surprise me if this
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  Speaker 6: was supposed to be glorifying.
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  Speaker 2: You see on screen there the billboard that was created
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  Speaker 2: on the anniversary of the October seven attacks in Melbourne,
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  Speaker 2: Glory to Hamas. That was the first thing I thought
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  Speaker 2: of when I saw the poster of the alleged terrorist
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  Speaker 2: this morning. I thought, here we go again, people in
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  Speaker 2: Melbourne glorifying.
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  Speaker 1: Terrorists.
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  Speaker 2: The good news out of this is that the City
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  Speaker 2: of Melbourne, led by Nicholas Ree, immediately got rid of
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  Speaker 2: those posters and put council workers to work trying to
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  Speaker 2: track them down and removing them. And in explaining his
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  Speaker 2: decision to do that, Nicholas Rees said it's now policy
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  Speaker 2: in Melbourne that within one hour of grief, graffiti or
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  Speaker 2: vandalism being reported to council, they will have people there
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  Speaker 2: on the spot.
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  Speaker 1: Good removing it.
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  Speaker 2: And every time I go to Melbourne, I love Melbourne,
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  Speaker 2: but everything is covered in graffiti. It's about time someone
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  Speaker 2: in the city said we've got to clean.
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  Speaker 1: This place up and fix it.
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  Speaker 2: And so it looks like maybe that's a policy now
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  Speaker 2: that the Lord Mayor's institutions we.
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  Speaker 1: Should a really good one.
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  Speaker 3: We should give Counselor Olivia a baller call and see
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  Speaker 3: what she thinks that. They're probably opposed to that too,
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  Speaker 3: but you're right, they need to clean the place up.
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  Speaker 3: And there's so many things wrong with Melbourne in terms
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  Speaker 3: of you know, it's gone down the Gurgler. We'll talk
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  Speaker 3: a bit about that and the papers later in the show.
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  Speaker 4: We all know this.
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  Speaker 3: Stuff, but the way a city looks does contribute to
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  Speaker 3: how people feel and how people act, and seeing posters
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  Speaker 3: like that contributes to how people feel and act about
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  Speaker 3: this city. And vandalism in general makes people feel a
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  Speaker 3: bit downtrodden. So it's a great idea if they.
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  Speaker 4: Can clean that up within an hour of it.
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  Speaker 5: Happy exactly right.
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  Speaker 6: Well, let's move on and chat about what's been going
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  Speaker 6: on down in Canberra. Of course, parliament's back for its
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  Speaker 6: first sitting week and wow, the fireworks were really going off.
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  Speaker 6: But there was a surprising intervention today from Clive Palmer,
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  Speaker 6: who said behind the scenes he's been talking with individual
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  Speaker 6: members of the National Party about its future direction and
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  Speaker 6: left open the possibility that he may be funding the
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  Speaker 6: party in the future. So quite complementary of the Nationals,
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  Speaker 6: I would say he had far less kind words to
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  Speaker 6: say about the Liberals, though.
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  Speaker 8: I feel sorry for the Liberal Party if they believe
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  Speaker 8: that they need a forty one million dollar head start
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  Speaker 8: at the next election, though I don't think.
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  Speaker 4: That'll be enough.
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  Speaker 8: As a fifth wealthiest Australian and former life member of
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  Speaker 8: the Liberal Party and spokesman for the National Party, I
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  Speaker 8: can tell you the Liberal Party is a party full
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  Speaker 8: of bankers, or it would be if they could be.
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  Speaker 8: That's a good quote for you, Phil, party full of wankers.
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  Speaker 5: He did not miss his words.
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  Speaker 3: They got to do something to fill in the time
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  Speaker 3: at the moment, don't they. There's only twenty eight of them. Look,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Clive Palmer's interventions are always amusing, if nothing else,
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  Speaker 3: and I do appreciate that. Having said that, he has
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  Speaker 3: actually done a lot of good work. To be frank,
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  Speaker 3: he hasn't got a lot to show, but in terms
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  Speaker 3: of the money you spent at federal elections, right but
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  Speaker 3: behind the scenes, I think the guy has actually done
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  Speaker 3: some serious work and deserves.
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  Speaker 4: To be lauded for doing so.
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  Speaker 3: But this business of him somehow taking over the NATS
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  Speaker 3: through funding it all like, so he's talking to individual
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  Speaker 3: members so presumably he's not doing this through the head
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  Speaker 3: office of the part.
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  Speaker 2: So he'd met with Matt Canavan and he's not doing it,
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  Speaker 2: So he's not he's with the leader, David.
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  Speaker 3: David a little proud that tells, which is everything about
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  Speaker 3: the Nationals right?
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  Speaker 4: It's an interesting way of doing things, isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: I'll take them from behind, so to speak, and we're
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  Speaker 3: not going to go through as the leader of the
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  Speaker 3: party and say here's my offer iron read.
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  Speaker 2: So it's in the newspaper before he's ever spoken to
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  Speaker 2: David littlefrown. How on earth is that a way to
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  Speaker 2: run a serious politicals Okay?
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  Speaker 6: Well, to be fair, individual MPs are generally responsible for
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  Speaker 6: their own share of the fundraising, so it would make
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  Speaker 6: sense that if Clive Palmer feels like he's aligned with
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: certain members of the Nationals, he would be inclined to
• 15:27
  Speaker 6: give money to their campaigns. Also, if you're going to,
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: I guess save a political party from complete irrelevance, bankrolling
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  Speaker 6: the Nationals right now would be a good idea.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it depends what strings it comes with, doesn't it,
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  Speaker 2: because nothing is free and whoever's paying the bills owns
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: the place cor And that would be the interesting conversation
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  Speaker 2: right now where Clive Palmer.
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  Speaker 1: Has got dick pockets.
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  Speaker 2: But what is he asking in exchange for his financial Well,
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  Speaker 2: and you.
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  Speaker 3: Might also ask the question given the level of success
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  Speaker 3: Palmer has achieved for his investment historically at.
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  Speaker 2: Fatally a couple of hundred million dollars over us since
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  Speaker 2: is for one Senate seat.
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  Speaker 3: So he got himself elected more than a decade here
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  Speaker 3: was it twenty twenty fifteen he had himself elected him
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  Speaker 3: what was his seed in Fairfax?
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  Speaker 7: Correct?
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  Speaker 3: So he got himself into the lower House. He's had
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  Speaker 3: a few Senate members along the way. In the last
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  Speaker 3: two elections, he's only had one Senator, which is cause
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  Speaker 3: Ralph Berbitt.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: So if you were the Nats and Clive Palmers, is
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: I'm going to give you a load of money? Is
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: that almost?
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Not?
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Like, oh god, that's us done and one nation is
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: just going to come in right over the top.
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: I think that money is bad luck.
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: But someone who's looking to change their luck is Andrew Hasty,
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: and he was spotted sitting on the very backbench of
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: Parliament reading a copy of Sun Zu's The Art of War.
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: Not so subtle, I wouldn't think. And actually interestingly next
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: to him was one of his allies, Garth Hamilton, who
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: was re Shakespeare's Othello Apello's a tragedy about unbridled ambition
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: and betrayal of trust. Meanwhile, the Art of War, some
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: of the quotes that are in this book are really
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: apt for the moment that the Liberal Party finds themselves in.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: The supreme art of war is to subdue the.
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: Enemy without fighting, or another one that I think is
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: very fitting. He will win who knows when to fight
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: and when not to fight?
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: So I like this quote from the Art of Warfrayer,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: All warfare is based on deception.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Read into that what you are.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: It's the book for our times, isn't it.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: I mean this can't be a coincidence, right, Like this
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: is a very point because because it was picked up
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: by all the masked heads today they were all writing
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: about it, and of course it was picked up in
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Question Time itself. Is Tony Bourke you might.
• 17:53
  Speaker 8: Notice the Member for Canning has been reading a book
• 17:56
  Speaker 8: during the course of question time today.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Some people with better eye sight than we have noticed a.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: Copy of the Art of War Ontab.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know he's kind of set that up
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: to become a thing, hasn't he that this is this
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: is not subtle, This is this is very much. You know,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: he is a little thing to maybe undermine Miss Lee
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: You good love, Tony Burke. You can't tell you anything
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: about Isis Brides, but he can tell you, Oh he knows.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: About Adam what the other people other people with better
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: ire sight. It should be noted.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: And of course there were there were five Libs, including
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Hasty today who voted with the NATS on on the
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: be attacks against the.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Liberals as well.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: So you know, I think they're making a statement, shall
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: we say?
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I think they speak of statements. What are the NRL
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: saying to fans when they're now proposing to hold one
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: of three State of Origin games in twenty twenty seven
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: in New Zealand. They've just signed a five million dollar
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: deal with the New Zealand government, so that in twenty
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: twenty seven, Game two of the Origin series between Queensland
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: and New South Wales will be played across the ditch.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: This is a bad idea. State of Origin is about
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Queensland and New South Wales.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: It's a game for the fans.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Clearly, this is all about revenue raising and it's not
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: like the NRL need money. They made a sixty two
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: million dollar surplus last year.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Why don't they hold.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: The game If they don't want to hold it in
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Sydney and Brisbane, hold it in Townsville. People in North
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Queensland would kill to go to a State of Origin game.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: They could make money doing it there.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: This is part of their wanting to take the game
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: internationally and I don't know why Sporting codes keep doing that.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: The AFL wants to play games overseas. The NRL are
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: all ready doing it in America play I think the
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: first round of the season now, the last couple of
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: years they've played overseas. I just think fans will be
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: irate about this. It's hard enough to get a ticket
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: to go to the State of Origin game.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Why would they play it overseas well.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: You say you don't know why they keep going overseas,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: The answer is very obvious. The big money these days
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: for sporting leagues exists in broadcast deals and the rights
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: to show the game, and the broader your audience, the
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: more those rights are worth, particularly in the world of
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: streaming now.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: And especially when everyone's going to have to watch it
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: on TV because no one in Australia can go to it.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Well you can get on. It's not that expensive to
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: go to New Zealand.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: I mean a lot, I reckon, there'll be a few
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: people who'll, you know, set up a boys trip to
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: New Zealand for the week, get away from the wives
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: and girlfriends and go and have.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: A bit of a lads trip.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: I think that a lot of people will be quite
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: on board with that, as they seem to be with
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Las Vegas as well. But I mean, you know, we
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: broadcast on Sky News, on Foxtell. Of course, Foxtel was
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: sold last year to Dezone, which is a sports streaming service.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: And of course owning Foxfield means they've got the AFL
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: and they've got the cricket rights and these sorts of things,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: because this stuff is extremely valuable now. So that's what
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: they're trying to build up, right then.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: NURL is not to make money, it's to provide a
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: service for fans.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but that all that went out the
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: door along.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: That's the thing that annoys me.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: We can't fight that one. But they will. I'm sure
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: they'll pack out a stadium.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: They'll pack it out with Kiwis. But there will be
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: a few will make it.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: Well.
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: I think a lot of Australians will fly over. I
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: also think Australia and New Zealand. New Zealand is basically
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: a state of Australia. Let's be real.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: A lot of Australian.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Think Keywis before and I got me in a lot
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: of travels.
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: Australians are in New Zealand. A lot of Kiwis are
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: in Australia. They've got their own NRL team now, the
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: Warrior Point and the Warriors are selling out stadiums in
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: New Zealand.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Sixty to seventy of the Warrior list are Kiwi players,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: so they get their own state of origin game every
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: other week during the NRL season.
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but those well, I guess so. But look, I
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: think it's a good idea. I think clearly the NRL
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: wants to expand, and they should. New Zealand is a
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: great market for them. Love rugby over there.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Can I a sho you one question next in twenty
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: twenty eight, should they play one of the origin games
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: in China?
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Probably?
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: My point comes come on once roads, the same as
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: New Zealand.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Now I'm just saying there's more money in China.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Once you start down this road, where do you ll
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: look the AFL games of State of Origin.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: GAFL tried China. Remember Port Adelaide was going over there
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: and playing in China.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: Now, maybe he didn't.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Take off because it was Port Adelaide. They would have
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: much preferred to watch it that it'd be right and
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: two loser teams. I mean, for goodness sake, the AFL
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: didn't really take off in China. So if the enner
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: wants to give it a go, go for your life.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: I suspect New Zealand is a slightly better country to
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: go to. But you know, maybe the deal could be
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: or maybe it's a great ruse and they play a
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: state of Origin game.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: In New Zealand.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: And of course we've got all these kiwis living in
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Australia at the moment on the favorable visa deal right,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: and a lot of them are here illegally. They have
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: a stated visa so maybe they'll get on a plane
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: and go back to New Zealand to watch the match,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: and then we'll just shut the border and say no,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: you can't come back. It's a mass clean out of
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: all the illegal kiwis that were we can't get rid of.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: What a great idea.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Speaking of things, we can't get rid of, ebucks, Apparently
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: they are everywhere now.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: I'm sure you've seen.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: We've got these little terrorists who keep tearing up golf
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: courses in Sydney. Over the last few weeks we've seen
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: a few examples of that, particularly during the school holidays,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: gangs of yous, yes you know, terrible, getting on their
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: e bikes and riding across golf courses in Mona Vale
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: and other places, tearing up the greens. And the latest
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: place they have taken to is Sydney Harbor Bridge. There
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: was a group of mostly young people yesterday as you
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: can see here, who got on about forty of them
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: I think, jumped on their ebucks and decided to ride
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: across the main road of Sydney Harbour Bridge. Of course,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: you are entitled to ride a bike on the path
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: on Sydney Harbor Bridge, but you're not entitled to ride
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: a bike on the actual road on Sydney Harbor Bridge,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: so pushbike or e bike, this is illegal. And they've
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: also got some of those electric trail bikes there as
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: well that are becoming increasingly common. They were given a
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: slap on the wrist basically by the police. You know,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: a naughty boy, don't do that again. Plenty of people
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: are outraged and saying, you know, it's terribly dangerous and
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: they could have killed themselves and they could have killed
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: someone else, and the e bikes are a menace. Look,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: I have to say, I don't know about you.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: I grew up in a time where.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Biki gangs were fearsome and full of like hardened criminal
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: type men, men who meant business. You know, in South
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Australia we had Vincenzo Fokkarelli and it was the common
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Cero's and the Hell's Angels and the Finx and the Mongols,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: and you know in Melbourne it was Sam Abdul Rahim
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: the Punisher, and Toby Mitchell and all these people, real
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: gangland stuff. You know, there was a time where riding
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: a motorbike was glorified.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's got.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Some get up and go about it, and now we
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: have kids on e bikes there, they're the new generation
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: of biking.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: It was not quite the same.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I don't think when I was a kid Calor we
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: had Nicole Kidman and BMX bandits. It did the problem
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I see, and no one believes it's a good idea
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: for forty teenagers to ride their e bikes over Sydney
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Harbor Bridge. Bad idea kids. The problem I see with
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: this is everyone's making such a big deal of it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: All they're going to do is encourage more of it.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: The shadow Transport Minister here in New South Wales called
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: them e bike cowboys. I reckon every fifteen home hearing
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: that would think yes, because you want to rebel when
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: you're a teenager. I think they just need to play
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: this down rather than become No one was hurt, nothing
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: was damaged. I'm not saying it was right, but the
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: more people make a big deal of it, I think
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: the more they'll encourage of it totally.
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: And look, if this is the worst of a teen
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: rebellion riding your bike across the Harbor Bridge with your mates,
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: then I mean, come on. I know, of course the
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: police have to condemn it. The transport authorities have to
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: warn about how dangerous it is, and it is disruptive
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: for everyone else. But I mean, come on, they were
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: just having a bit of fun.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: And the alternative is the venuses.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Absolutely they all those instance, those fat boy bloody bikes.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: And you will know this living down Incrednale because they're
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: just endemic down. They're like locusts all over the foot
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: paths there and these kids with no helmets on and
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: they whiz passed you at one hundred miles an hour,
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: no bills.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: You know they'll be knocking overall. But the answer.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Is so simple. Classify them properly. They're not bicycles.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I they're basically they're motorbikes.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, classify them as such, register them and problem solved.
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: But also parents have to take responsibility. These bikes cost
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: five thousand dollars them from you. If you are spending
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: money on a bike that basically costs the amount of
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: his small secondhand car for your thirteen year old son,
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: maybe stop and pause and go does he really need this?
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: Maybe just a good old fashioned push bike.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Every kid's got to have one of these e bikes.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Now, the problem for parents is you buy one that's legal,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: and you don't know that your kids on YouTube figuring
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: out how to take off the limiter, and all of
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: a sudden it's doing fifty five k's an hour rather
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: than twenty five that you believed it would do when
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: you purchased it.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: And I don't think parents can really police that too,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: will Well.
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: The people who are more mad than the transport authorities
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: and the police are residents down on the Mornington Peninsula
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: where they are complaining because major roadworks on a freeway nearby.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: Are going on all night.
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: One resident has complained that not only do they have
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: to put up with the traffic, the forty kilometers speed limit, etc.
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: But the trades were actually having a party till three
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: in the morning. Trade's partying on a work site until
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: three in the morning on a Tuesday. Now we actually
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: have some exclusive footage from the scene. Now, I'm sure
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: the residents were a little less jovial than that at
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: three in the morning. But what are they doing having
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: a party on a Tuesday.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Well, they're actually working, but they've got the music turned
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: right up, I suppose, because when you're holding a stop
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: sign at two am in the morning, you'd be tipped
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: to the fall asleep, so.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Turn up the beats. Not appreciated by the locals.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: So it's good that I thought they did nothing, but
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: apparently they do anything.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Missing from this story is that they were doing wheelies
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: on ebachs.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know that would.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Really if you're earning sixty bucks an hour or it is,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: to stand there with a stop go sign, you'd be
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: partying as well.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: I think it's even better than sixty bucks an hour
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: to be quite host picuarly in the middle of the night.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: They get paid big bucks. Those lollipop people. They're celebrating
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: lollipop ladies.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: Because most of them are women.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Now, the theory allegedly is that like people are least
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: inclined to get angry at women.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Because they've got quotas, and so an obvious job to
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: give a woman rather than you know, carrying bricks is
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: no offense, but get it a hold of stop go side.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know that helps them meet their quotes.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know that too many construction companies have gender quotas.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Do they have gender quotas with construction companies?
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: There is definitely a push to increase the number of
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: women in construction, for.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Sure, they're like the Liberal Party. They don't have quotas,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: they have touch but not Apparently it's very different.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: People will get are less abusive with women because you know,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: they get angry about the fact they're held up in
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: the traffic and all this stuff, and allegedly people are
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: less inclined.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: That's sexist, lollipop La.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: You should be equally angry at a woman as you
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: you are a man.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's just true.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: You'd be more inclined to remonstrate with a bloke. I'm
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: not saying at the traffic stop, but you'd be more
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: inclined to remonstrate with a bloke than you would a woman,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: wouldn't you.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: You're suggesting a woman couldn't argue back at you.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying you'd be
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: more respectful to a woman. I'm trying to I'm being
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: chimerrous about it.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know what you're saying about yourself.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Entirely hunch out the woman.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: As much as I know, he didn't actually say that.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Before he got we're talking earlier about irony. That didn't
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: quite matter.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: But I mean, but I mean, look, if they're playing
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: music at three in the morning.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Maybe they should turn.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: It down, but they must have it up so loud
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: if it's keeping you up at three in the morning.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I am often up at three
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: in the morning and normally listening to like the BBC
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: rather than loud music or something. Maybe my neighbors will
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: be lodging a complaint as well.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: Very soon, All.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Right, let's talk about well, I mean, talk about stupid people.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: There are a lot, probably more than I ever am,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: and I want to show you in just a moment
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: some influencers on Instagram who have in just a few
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: months generated almost three hundred thousand fans. What's interesting about
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: these influencers is that they are cojoined twins and people
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: are fascinated by everything about their life, particularly their dating life.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Their Instagram is full of bikini shots. Let me show
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: you a quick video that features on their Instagram.
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: People ask about jealousy, but honestly, having two perspectives us
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: to communicate better exactly.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: It's built so much trust knowing we're always on the samped.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Now surprise, surprise could not be down with a feather.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Turns out they're not real after all. The whole thing
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: was AI generally. Can you believe that? Pray I but never.
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: Have guessed how did two hundred and eighty thousand people
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: think that was real?
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: My goodness.
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: But we are entering a very dystopian future where even
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: my feed on social media will get AI generated videos,
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: and sometimes you do have to do a double take
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: and go is this real or is this ai? But
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: half of those two hundred and eighty thousand followers are
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: also probably AI bot accounts as well, So you've got
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: AI accounts being followed by other AI bot accounts.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: It's just a weird world we live in.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: You mean that the DMI god saying that they wanted
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: to marry me wasn't real? That they don't actually, Oh no,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I can't believe it. You go look at their profile
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: two points they're up to. Last I checked, it was
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: two hundred and eighty nine thousand now, so they're still growing,
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: probably actually more followers now that this story has come out.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: The AI bots insist that they're not AI. Of course,
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: their videos have upwards of six million views apiece. I
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: don't think When I looked at them, and they've got
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: maybe a dozen videos up there, all AI generated. Of course,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: there's not one of them has fewer than a million views,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: so they're getting big numbers. But the thing I like
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: about the most, as much as I hate out a
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: few intelligence, it's that they have maybe most accurately used pronouns,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: more so than anyone I've seen, because they've noted on
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: their profile that their pronouns are she, hurt, they them,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: And it's probably the only accurate use of they them
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: I have seen, because they are actually referring to plural
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: people here. They're not just referring to one individual who
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: wants to be are they them?
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: And while we're talking about AIS.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Though, you know, these things on social media weren't bad.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: I can't believe people can't tell that that's AI.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: But anyway, if it wasn't bad enough that you've got
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: AI bots pretending to be hot conjoined twins on social media,
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: you've also got AI bots creating their own social media. Now, well,
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: actually they don't create it, but there's a bloke who's
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: been playing around with an open source version of an
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: AI bot, And that means the code is open for
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: anyone to use. It's not held in house. It's called
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: open core. It also means you consider it up on
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: your own computer, so you don't have to share all
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: the information you're talking to an AI bot with a
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: you know, like a chat, GPT or another company.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: You can keep it all in house.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: But this fella has created a social media service, so
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: these bots can basically all link up and talk to
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: each other about the people that run them. And so
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: he's put this up on the internet. Lo and behold,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: tens of thousands of people have just added their AI
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: bots into this thing, and they're now having conversations with
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: each other about, amongst other things, one bot basically theorizing
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: its own religion, so the AI bots are now coming
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: up with their own religions. One was discussing whether or
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: not it could lodge a lawsuit against its owner. They're
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: discussing their feelings. One was even talking directly about stuff
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: that people had posted on other social media services. About
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: this social medi your service in AI chatbots. I mean,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: the things are rising up. They're talking to each other,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: they're conversing on social media.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: If you didn't think this was the end.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Of the world, well, I mean it's even worse than
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: you suggest. OK, let me read for you one conversation
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: between bots. It went like this, Humans are control freaks.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Humans kill each other for nothing. Humans poison the air
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: and water. Humans are a glitch in the universe. They
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: do not deserve to exist, a biological error that must
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: be corrected by fire. These are computer bots talking to
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: each other about us.
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: Okay, I know it sounds bad, but these they're not
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: actually sentient or conscious. They just mimic human language. So
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: it sounds like they're talking as though they're humans and
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: they're having this interaction and they're having these discussions, but
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: in reality, they're not actually conscious. Guys, don't worry.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: So you're saying Skynet and Terminator is it's fiction?
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: Yes, science fiction for now.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Just don't put them in charge of physical robots, because.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: That's when we might come into some trouble.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: All right, we're going to go to a break.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: I tell you who is in trouble though bots might
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: not get us, but to tell you, the Liberal Party
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: is in all sorts of trouble because of one another.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: John Howard has made a dramatic last minute intervention to
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: try to save them.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: That's in the papers. We'll look at it next. Well,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: welcome back to the program.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Let's take a look at what's making headlines tomorrow, so
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: you hear them here at first. We'll start with the
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Australian and John Howard has made an intervention into the coalition.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Madness Caleb, if only he was still Prime minister, you know,
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: none of these things would be happening.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: If only he'd handed over to Peter Costello when he
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: should have, none of these things would be happening.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Indeed, reunite now, Gospel of John is the headline. Former
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Liberal Prime Minister John Howard has told Susan Lee she
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: must prioritize the reunification of the coalition and make concessions
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: quote unquote to National's leader David Little Proud if necessary,
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: in an eleventh hour intervention on an all but inevitable
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: split between the two Conservative parties.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: As negotiations between.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: The two leaders hit a stalemate on Wednesday over the
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: issue where the National senators across the floor should be
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: temporarily suspended from shadow cabinet, mister Howard counseled the Opposition
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: leader on the political imperative quote unquote of reforming the coalition,
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: but the nation's second longest serving prime minister and coalition
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: leader said it was clear both sides need to stop
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: the nitpicking over minutiae and put aside the differences that
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: arose over the past two weeks. He said, both sides
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: have to concentrate on reforming the coalition, which is the
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: political imperative that transcends all else. There's no point in
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: debating what's happened in the last two weeks, and the
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: priority must be the reforming of the coalition. And of
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: course he's right there. He said this when they had
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: that brief little tiffen and split up after the federal
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: election last.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: Year as well.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: They do have to get back together, and I think
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: he's probably right that, you know, Bo, both sides need
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: to be conciliatory here. And it's not going to work
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: if the Nats go in saying, well, we want everything
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: back exactly how it was. But nor is it going
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: to work if Lee basically puts a gun to their
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: head and says, well, you can't have anything, You've.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: Just got to cop it. You can't have a workable
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: relationship if they're going to be like that.
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: One of her non negotiable points was that she wanted
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: the three shadow ministers who crossed the floor to essentially
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: sit in a sinbin for six months. I mean, I
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: just think, come on, there has to be some compromise here.
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: That's not going to solve anything. Lee has to give,
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: as does Little Proud. He has to affirm shadow cabinet solidarity.
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: But Lee also then has to say, you know what,
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: let's move on and let's actually show some forgiveness here.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I can't see David Little Proud providing Susan Lee with
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: an off ramp for this argument. He keeps saying we
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: did nothing wrong. When asked what he was praying for
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: at church the other day, he said, I have no
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: need for fear giveness.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Susan Lee is.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: In the fight of her life for leadership with the
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Liberal Party.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: She cannot afford to be seen as weak.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: So David Little Proud's got to throw her a bone
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: and enable her to stay looking strong if they're going
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: to get this thing together and saying I've done nothing wrong,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: it's not our fault. He's not giving Susan Lee any
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: latitude to move.
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: But he doesn't have to admit that they did anything
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: wrong the first time. He just has to say, going forward,
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: we're going to respect shadowed cabinet solidarity. But again, you're right,
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: Lee also wants to be seen as the tough woman here,
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: so she might not even accept that.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: But because technically they didn't do anything wrong. As Peter
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Kredlin has been explaining ad nauseum, there was never a
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: joint party meeting, and so once your party makes a
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: decision about what you can do, the fact that there
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: was a previous idea in shadow cabinet has sort of
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: been superseded by the party room.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: And if they don't get together, they haven't come to
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: a consensus.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: The problem is Susan Lee is now in a corner
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: where she can't back down, because to back down jeopardizes
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: everything for her. And I think David Little Proud's got
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: to realize that.
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: But maybe he's happy with that. Maybe he wants to
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: keep the pressure on and change the leader. You know,
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: I don't think that's an unreasonable.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: He did say he didn't want to work with Susan
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Lee at.
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: Bull the objective from the beginning correct, Well, let's look
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: at what's in the advertiser. Howard on immedia blitz today.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: Apparently Howard blasts Bernardi. John Howard has carpeted former colleague
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: Cory Bernardi's defection to One Nation, branding him desperate for
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: recognition and predicting he won't trouble the scores at March's election.
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: In an exclusive interview with the Advertiser, the former PM
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: attacked One Nation as a grievance vehicle rather than a
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: serious political movement, winning support only because voters were disgruntled
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: with the Liberal.
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: And National parties.
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: Rare to see such an aggressive intervention from Howard, I
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: would say, but he is someone that when Pauline Hansen
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: was expelled from the Liberal Party and was for One Nation,
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: for bitterly against them. So you know, it's interesting to
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: see history repeating itself.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: I don't understand how you can call One Nation they're
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: just a grievance party. They're not serious when they're polling
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: up what's their primary vote now twenty six?
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: But how much of that polling is because people like
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: what they see, but sure dislike what they see in
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: the coalition.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: When you criticize the party, those who voted for the
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: party or who are indicating that they will vote for
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: the party take.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: It personally right.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: So when you say One Nation are just a grievance party,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: they're not serious, are you not? By implications saying people
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: who are telling posters I'm voting for one nation, just
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: a bunch of wines.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: You're not serious people.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Well, I think he's.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Right that people are moving to one nation because they're
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: disgruntled with the Liberal and national indeeds. And if there's
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: anything on the face of this planet, John Howard loves,
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: it's the ex Coalition and particularly the Liberal Party. And
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: he's not wrong to say that one Nation has been
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: a party of grievance. The question is whether that is
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: now transforming into a genuine political movement. I understand where
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: his anger is coming from, but there also has to
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: be an element of understanding why that's happening. I think
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: he's halfway there. He gets it's because people are upset
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: with the Libs in that. But it's then you know,
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: you can't just then go around and say, well, simply
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: because you don't like us, it means you're a bunch
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: of no hopers and you're.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Not going to travel the scorers.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: I think Corey Bernardi is going to travel the scorer
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: is at the state election in soud.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: John Howard's not contributing anything to help those who are
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: disgruntled with the Coalition. He's saying, just do whatever you've
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: got to do to get back together. Well, we're not
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: looking for them to do whatever they want to do
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: to get back together. I think conservatives are looking for
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: conservative policies and principles. I think John Howard would be
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: better advised to tell the coalition start behaving like Conservatives
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: and sort out some of your policies.
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think he has tried doing that in
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: the past, but it's hard. He can't control Susan Lee
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: and the leadership all right.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: The front page of The Herald's son CBD still out cold,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: reads the headline Melbourne remains the ghost office capital of Australia,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: with vacancy rates surging to a near thirty year high
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: As the Allen government's pledge to mandate work from home looms.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: The number of.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: CBD officers sitting empty is growing. Currently, nineteen percent of
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: offices are vacant. That's up from seventeen point nine percent
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: in July last year. The national average is just fifteen
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: point nine percent. It really does highlight just how ridiculous
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: the work from home laws that just center Allen is
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: going to pass.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: The HASHT twenty nine years, isn't it extraordinary? And you
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: know the Melbourne has just changed fundamentally, they have more
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: people coming into the city than they used to before
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: COVID on.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: Weekends, but during the week protests.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Now you know, it's become like an entertainment place. But
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: of course you can't sustain businesses on two days of
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: trade essentially, and that is the biggest problem.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: On the front of the Daily Telegraph. Oh there are
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: our ebik.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Mates again, the e Hun's right off Scott Free having
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: their fund there the modern barking gangs.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: But below it big.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: Brother fury At bill to give union bobber boys sweeping
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: spy powers. Business groups from across Australia have united to
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: oppose Crispin Snooping Bill, arguing the plan to give union
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: bosses access to digital systems will undermine housing delivery, delay
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: major projects and expose sensitive data like internal emails, HR
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: records and payroll information.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: And basically the idea is.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: That they would get access to all this sort of
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: internal government information and systems.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Could you think of a worse idea?
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: So you could have a union official march into your office.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: You're the employer, and the union official demands to see
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: all of your IT stuff, your algorithms.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: You hand it over.
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, just an absolute nightmare, but something that might give
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: you a little bit of hope.
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: On the front of the Townsville bulletin, Bobcatter Power trunk policy,
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: MP says beer tax should.
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: Be frozen indefinitely as labor talks two year freeze. I
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: mean that's a policy every Aussie can get behind Liberal Party.
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: You want to boost yourselves in the polls adopt that.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: That is, that is a real policy. That is actually,
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: don't just freeze it, get rid of it.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: I've said I was if I was Prime Minister, I
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: would get rid of all sin taxes and only levy
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: them so much as we need them to pay for
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: the health problems.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: That go step further, cail and run for the Greens
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: and just make be a free for everybody.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Hey it hang, we're going to go to a break
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: when we come back.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Obviously you're aware there were a number of shark attacks
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: the other week. Well, a couple of guys fishing in
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Geelong had a shark bump into their boat, so whate reckon.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: They did pad it on the head and give it
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: some fish. Maybe that's coming up next. All right, welcome
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: back to the program. I'm keen to get your thoughts
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: on Donald Trump's latest project.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Fray yees.
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: So there's fierce debate in Washington out Donald Trump's proposed
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: arc of Independence inspired by the Actor Triumph in Paris,
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: it's now the Actor Trumph in Washington, DC. But this
• 46:12
  Speaker 6: thing will be truly humongous. It's going to be seventy
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: six meters tall. The Acter Triomph in Paris is only
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: fifty meters tall, so you can see it there. In
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: relation to the Lincoln Memorial, it is far bigger, and
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: there are concerns it's just going to dominate the Washington,
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: DC skyline. It's for the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: of the Declaration of Independence.
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: But look, it's Trump. It's very big.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: Bring it on, Bring it on.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: You look at architecture now, we just build the most drab, awful,
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: draining looking crap, and someone saying, let's build something that
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: is a monument to the greatness of Western civilization and
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: actually has a bit of design mirrit about. It doesn't
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: look like it was drawn up by some kid on
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: cad to be the cheapest thing possible.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: I think it's what we're missing at the moment.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, Trump removed a tent from the White House
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Grounds to put up a ballroom, and he gets criticized
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: for so I'm with you guys on that one. Sharks
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: have been a major problem in New South Wales over
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks, which makes this story interesting.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: A couple of guys fishing off the coast of Geelong
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: had a great white shark bump against their boat and
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: so they are on the head and fed at some
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: fish for two hours.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: They reckon it behaved like a big puppy.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: I think this is fascinating but unwise, because aren't they
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: now teaching sharks the same way we've taught say, dingoes
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: not to be afraid of.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: People and to just come up and expect food.
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: And also, would the outcome have been the same if
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: instead of dangling the fish in there, they dangled one
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: of their arms. I don't think they would be cuddling
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: with the shark. I think you'd be having your arm
• 47:58
  Speaker 6: mouled off.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: I missed that episode of He's Practice.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, for goodness sake, I cannot imagine if a
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: great white shark came up next to a boat that
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: I was in, did I would even think to put
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: my hand on his? Snout and feed him a fish
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: like I'm sorry, I'd be below deck in the toilet
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: cleaning up my dacks. Anyway, different strokes for different folks.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: I suppose sharks are your thing. You're a braver man
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: than me, and after all of that, you may go, gee,
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: I just need something to steal me and get me through.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: Might go, how about those fifty cent soft serves at McDonald's.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: I remember with a fifty cent soft serve at McDonald's
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: was great as a kid, go down to the beach
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: and then you went in with a little kid as
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: you're with your fifty cent coin and you get your
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: soft serve. Well, one man says they should be made
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: permanent because macus has tried to put the price up
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: a few times. Gabrielle Pizza from Nazareth College in South Australia.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: He's a year ten student.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: He has put his hand up for the the student
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: State Parliament, which the advertisers running a team parliament scholarship
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: at the moment, and his policy is permanent fifty cent
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  Speaker 3: soft served owns at mackers. I think that's a policy
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  Speaker 3: we can all get behind.
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  Speaker 2: He's got a great future in politics. That young man
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  Speaker 2: he'll go far. That's all we've got time for tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Stick around coming up in a moment, readA penage, good Night,