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Mega Edition: Ghislaine Maxwell And Her Life After Conviction (7/16/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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Speaker 1: Glenn Maxwell is going to be spending the next twenty
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Speaker 1: or so years in federal prison, so it's not shocking
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Speaker 1: that we're getting reports that she's found a friend. Well,
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Speaker 1: the person that she's allegedly paling around with down in
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Speaker 1: the federal prison in Florida is a double murderer. So
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Speaker 1: let's jump into this article from the Mirror and let's
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Speaker 1: see what these fellow travelers are up to. Headline Jail
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Speaker 1: to Glean Maxwell becomes best pals with one of most infamous
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Speaker 1: US female killers. Convicted teenage sex trafficker GLEAINN. Maxwell, sixty
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Speaker 1: and sixty five year old double murderer Narcy Novak spend
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Speaker 1: hours speaking together at the Tallahassee jail in the east
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Speaker 1: of Florida State's capital. This article was authored by Christopher Buckton,
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Speaker 1: and again, look, it does not show that we're hearing
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Speaker 1: that she has a pal here. When you have a
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Speaker 1: bunch of degenerates, a bunch of broken units who can't
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Speaker 1: function in society correctly, and they're going to be spending
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Speaker 1: a bunch of time with each other behind bars, inevitably,
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Speaker 1: this is what occurs as one of the most notorious
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Speaker 1: killers in America. Narcy Novak, that's one of the most
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Speaker 1: notorious killers in America. Let's not get carried away here.
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Speaker 1: Does not, on the face of it, seem like a
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Speaker 1: natural pal for British former socialite. You mean Epstein, co conspirator,
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Speaker 1: fellow child abuser, all around scuzbag, bipedal serpent, that's what
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Speaker 1: you mean, right, not socialite. But the pair have become
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Speaker 1: close over a shared taste for the millionaire's lifestyle, long
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Speaker 1: sentences and their ages. Insiders have claimed, hey, you know,
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Speaker 1: birds of a feather in all right, two people who
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Speaker 1: I'm sure none of us would want to spend five
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Speaker 1: seconds around, piling up and you know, becoming friendly. Really
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Speaker 1: not that shocking the US. Cohn is a feared figure
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Speaker 1: among inmates after having her hotel heir, husband and mother
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Speaker 1: in law pumped off, and her friendship with Maxwell will
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Speaker 1: no doubt offer the brit some protection in the brutal
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Speaker 1: prison world. There's a lot of doubt about that. What
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Speaker 1: does that even mean? They're acting like this lady's Grisel
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Speaker 1: de Blanco. This lady hired some hitmen to kill her
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Speaker 1: husband and her mother in law, that doesn't make her
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Speaker 1: one of the most notorious female killers in America. Are
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Speaker 1: you crazy? A source said once inside, Gleanne gravitated towards
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Speaker 1: Nancy because of her length of time inside and the
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Speaker 1: brutality of her crimes. She is treated like a female
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Speaker 1: don meaning Novak. All the younger girls address her as
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Speaker 1: missed Novak out of respect. Okay, but again I don't
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Speaker 1: really by the whole this lady is a crime boss thing.
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Speaker 1: She's probably respected a little bit because she's older, right,
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Speaker 1: and you know she has some dough. But besides that,
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Speaker 1: to even frame it like she's some sort of mafia
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Speaker 1: don is laughable at best. Glenn will have a modicum
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Speaker 1: of protection through her friendship, but given their ages and
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Speaker 1: millionaire backgrounds, they were always destined to get on. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's the heart of it, That's what it is. They
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Speaker 1: share generational commonalities, so of course they would gravitate to
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Speaker 1: one another, and they'd want to be friends together. They
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Speaker 1: spend hours talking, laughing and joking. Maxwell is serving twenty
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Speaker 1: years after being convicted last December of learning young girls
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Speaker 1: for her disgraced ex financier Jeffrey Epstein to molest and
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Speaker 1: helping molest those girls and ex financier, not pedophile, I mean,
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Speaker 1: first day covering this story, mister Buckton. Despite their crimes,
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Speaker 1: Tallahassee is categorized as a low security prison that has
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Speaker 1: a range of courses and work placements for inmates. And
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Speaker 1: right there, that tells you exactly what's going on here
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Speaker 1: with miss Novak. She's not this world class criminal. If
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Speaker 1: she was, if she was a violent criminal, she wouldn't
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Speaker 1: be in this low level lockup. She'd be in a
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Speaker 1: more serious detention center where actual murderers go. But she
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Speaker 1: was involved in conspiracy to commit murder, meaning hiring hitman.
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Speaker 1: She didn't do it herself. She didn't walk up to somebody,
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Speaker 1: pull out the double gage shotgun and blow them in half. Right,
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Speaker 1: She's not Griselle le Blanco. She's not an actual, you know,
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Speaker 1: murdering psychopath if you will, but somebody who's obviously capable
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Speaker 1: of great evil and being involved in a conspiracy. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: her and Glene Maxwell two peas in a pod. And
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Speaker 1: when I say a pod, this time I'm talking about
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Speaker 1: a prison pod. There are apprenticeships in several fields, including gardening, baking, cooking,
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Speaker 1: and housekeeping, yoga, pilates, weights, softball and frisbee are offered
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Speaker 1: as leisure pursuits. Well, it's not a gulag, and not
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Speaker 1: everybody's in there for the crimes that Maxwell's in there for,
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Speaker 1: and not everybody's in the crime in there for the
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Speaker 1: crimes that this lady's in there for. So you have
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Speaker 1: to have a place where people can be rehabilitated, right,
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Speaker 1: And if you're gonna be in there and you're looking
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Speaker 1: to fix what you did wrong, you made financial you know,
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Speaker 1: you're involved in financial crimes. Perhaps you made a mistake
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Speaker 1: driving under the influence and you know, destroyed some property
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Speaker 1: or something. Whatever it is, you go there, you do
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Speaker 1: your time, hopefully you get rehabilitated and you're out. People
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Speaker 1: like Maxwell, there is no rehabilitation for people like her,
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Speaker 1: So she shouldn't even be at a facility like this
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Speaker 1: in the first she should be in at the very
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Speaker 1: least a medium level security facility. Her crimes are heinous.
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Speaker 1: While the two new prison pals both enjoyed tycoon lives
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Speaker 1: on the outside, that is where the similarities end. Maxwell,
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Speaker 1: inmate number zero two eight seven nine DASH five zero nine,
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Speaker 1: was born into a life of privilege, partying with princes,
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Speaker 1: stars and aristocracy, but ruthless. Novak worked her way up
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Speaker 1: in US society through stripping and sex ho through stripping
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Speaker 1: and sex visit so that makes her a godmother. That
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Speaker 1: makes her one of the most notorious women killers in
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Speaker 1: the history of America. That's how they framed it. Remember
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Speaker 1: in the beginning of this article, she regularly swapped lovers
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Speaker 1: for a richer, more wealthy man and eventually met multimillionaire
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Speaker 1: playboy Ben Novak Junior in her strip club. Years later,
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Speaker 1: she was the mastermind behind the brutal murder of the
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Speaker 1: fifty two year old and his mother, Bernice eighty six,
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Speaker 1: in a twisted plot motivated by greed and revenge overclaims
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Speaker 1: Ben had cheated. So obviously not a good person, right,
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Speaker 1: But not Pablo Escobar either, just another sicko, another twisted
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Speaker 1: human being who tried to come up with a plan
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Speaker 1: and a plot, thought she was gonna get away with it,
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Speaker 1: and was not as smart as she thought she was.
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Speaker 1: When all was said and done, the pair were killed
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Speaker 1: three months apart by hitmen hired by Voodoo Fan Novak
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Speaker 1: and arranged by her bus driver brother Crystal Ball Valise
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Speaker 1: oh Well. Voodoo believing is it is she gonna get
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Speaker 1: up there and do one of those weird ass dances.
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Speaker 1: What about Joe Boo from the movie Major League? Is
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Speaker 1: he going to make an appearance to voodoo? I got
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Speaker 1: your voodoo right here? Bernus was. Bernice was the widow
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Speaker 1: of Ben Novaccine, who owned the legendary Fountain Blue Miami
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Speaker 1: Beach hotel, frequented by the likes of Marilyn Monroe and
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Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra. She was found dead in a pool of
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Speaker 1: blood on April fifth, two thousand and nine, in the
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Speaker 1: garage of her Fort Lauderdale home. It was ruled she
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Speaker 1: died in a fall, but after further review, detectives reopened
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Speaker 1: the case. They found that Bernice had been battered with
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Speaker 1: a monkey wrench. The medical examiner believes she had stumbled
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Speaker 1: from place to place in the home but eventually fell
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Speaker 1: in the garage. How do you mess that up? How
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Speaker 1: do you think that she fell and hit her head?
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Speaker 1: If the medical examiner is saying that she was bouncing
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Speaker 1: from place to place in the home after getting beaten
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Speaker 1: with a monkey wrench, what kind of piss poor CSI
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Speaker 1: job was done here? Many believed Ben's suspicions had grown
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Speaker 1: about Novak's involvement, but the assassin struck again before he
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Speaker 1: could make any accusations. Novak had accompanied him to a
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Speaker 1: convention for his company at the Hilton Rye Town in Ryebrook,
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Speaker 1: New York. The two hitmen said at her trial Novak
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Speaker 1: had let them into the couple's suite on the morning
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Speaker 1: of July twelfth, two thousand and nine. Ben was asleep
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Speaker 1: when he was attacked in his bed with dumbbells and
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Speaker 1: not even like a real hit right, you know, pay
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Speaker 1: like an actual hitman to kill him while he's you know,
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Speaker 1: walking to his car or some shit. Now hire two
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Speaker 1: drug addicts probably to go and beat him to death
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Speaker 1: in his bed. Yeah, we got ourselves a criminal mastermind here.
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Speaker 1: Of folks, what we have is just another degenerate, like
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Speaker 1: I said in the opening, another degenerate that fits in
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Speaker 1: perfect with Glenn Maxwell, another person that deserves to be
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Speaker 1: eating boloney sandwiches kill Lombard's line. They bound him with
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Speaker 1: duct tape, and Novak threw them a pillow to muffle
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Speaker 1: or dying husband's screams. She ordered the men to gouge
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Speaker 1: out his eyes with the knife, so despite being dead,
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Speaker 1: he can never look at a woman, so obviously a demented,
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Speaker 1: sick lady. And anyone who's out here talking about I'm
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Speaker 1: about to do a voodoo dance is probably not playing
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Speaker 1: with all of their marbles if I'm being real. Novak
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Speaker 1: later pretended she had found her husband's body, but police
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Speaker 1: were suspicious from the off and struggled to believe her story.
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Speaker 1: She then stole more than ninety thousand pounds from his company,
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Speaker 1: paying off the killers, Alejandro Garcia and Joel Gonzalez. They
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Speaker 1: eventually confessed in twenty ten in exchange for lesser sentences
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Speaker 1: of two hundred and ten months and one hundred and
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Speaker 1: twenty months, respectively. The pair cooperated with police, leading Novak
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Speaker 1: and her brother being found guilty of the murders. So
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Speaker 1: these are the dudes who did the murders, conspired with
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Speaker 1: Novak and her brother, and these dudes get off at
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Speaker 1: two hundred and ten months and one hundred and twenty
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Speaker 1: months after brutally murdering these two people, all because they're
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Speaker 1: going to help the government get convictions. You really think
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Speaker 1: the government couldn't have got those convictions without these dudes.
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Speaker 1: The evidence wasn't strong enough, Okay, I guess during the trial,
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Speaker 1: the siblings blamed Novak's daughter, Maya bod for orchestrating the killings,
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Speaker 1: claiming she was motivated by benefits from Ben's estate, but
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Speaker 1: the jury saw through their lives. Assistant US Attorney Elliott
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Speaker 1: Jacobson described the pair as pathological liars, adding their extraordinarily
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Speaker 1: dangerous sociopaths. Bennett grown up in one of Florida's most
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Speaker 1: affluent and famous families, but using his business skills, he
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Speaker 1: made his own millions through a company that organized events
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Speaker 1: and conventions. Wealthy and eligible, Ben attracted the attention of
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Speaker 1: many women, including ecuador born Narcisa Sira Valize Pacheco, also
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Speaker 1: known as Narsi. So obviously, this guy's out here, has
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Speaker 1: a couple of bucks, hanging out at these strip clubs,
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Speaker 1: going to get himself a couple of lap dances, whatever
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Speaker 1: he's doing at these places, and falls for one of
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Speaker 1: these strippers. Certainly not something I would recommend to anybody
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Speaker 1: out there, especially if you got a bunch of dough. Now,
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Speaker 1: if you meet them outside of the strip club, that's
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Speaker 1: a different story. But if you're at the strip club, fellas,
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Speaker 1: and you think these girls like you, my guess is
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Speaker 1: they don't like you. They like your money, and mister
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Speaker 1: Ben here he found that out in spades, didn't he.
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Speaker 1: When they met, she was a blonde stripper working in
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Speaker 1: Florida under the name of Sylvia. Her background was one
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Speaker 1: of poverty and struggles. Narcy married Ben in nineteen ninety one,
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Speaker 1: much to the disapproval of Bernice, and with his money,
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Speaker 1: she transformed into the role of the trophy wife. Oh
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Speaker 1: is that right? Huh? The trophy wife? Is it another thing? Folks?
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Speaker 1: If you're out there, dudes and you got a bunch
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Speaker 1: of dough, how about you find somebody that you actually love.
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Speaker 1: The whole trophy wife thing is very odd to me.
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Speaker 1: The couple were dripping in jewelry and lived in a
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Speaker 1: two point four million pound home. They seemed to have
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Speaker 1: it all from the outside, but their marriage was fatally
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Speaker 1: flawed once police were called to their home to find
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Speaker 1: Ben in what looked like a kidnapping attempt, but Novak
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Speaker 1: insisted it was part of a sex game. During her trial,
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Speaker 1: it emerged he had paid porn actress Rebecca Bliss for sex.
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Speaker 1: The couple went on to have an affair. Well, I'm
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Speaker 1: not trying to sound like a dick here. But bro,
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Speaker 1: you met your chick in the strip club, and for
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Speaker 1: the lady, you met your dude in the strip club.
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Speaker 1: You really think this guy is an out here acting
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Speaker 1: the fool with all this money? Of course he is.
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Speaker 1: When Novak found out, she was petrified Ben would leave
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Speaker 1: her and she would end up struggling again. Their prenuptial
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Speaker 1: agreement meant she would only be left with fifty five
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Speaker 1: thousand pounds, not as millions. First, she tried and failed
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Speaker 1: to pay bliss off. In her fury, Novak hatched a
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Speaker 1: plot to keep hold of the eight point five million
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Speaker 1: pound fortune. Later, the X rated star would testify that
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Speaker 1: after the rejection, Novak told her if I can't have them,
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Speaker 1: no one will. The case was turned into a twenty
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Speaker 1: fifteen Hollywood movie called Beautiful and Twisted, starring Rob Low
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Speaker 1: and Pause Vega. Well, sounds like Glaine Maxwell's in good company, huh.
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Speaker 1: Sounds like the perfect friend for old Golaine. But the
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Speaker 1: way this lady's frame Missus Novak here Narcy Novak as
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Speaker 1: some sort of criminal mastermind, I find laughable. Honestly, it's
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Speaker 1: a joke. She is somebody who got other people involved
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Speaker 1: in her plot. Here it was a plot of you know,
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Speaker 1: rage due to being in love with this dude or
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Speaker 1: jealous whatever it was, wanting the money, and she enlisted
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Speaker 1: a couple of scoundrels to help her out. This certainly
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Speaker 1: wasn't some sort of sophisticated plot. So Maxwell and Narsy
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Speaker 1: they can have fun hanging out and you know, doing
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Speaker 1: pottery or whatever the hell it is that they're gonna
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Speaker 1: be doing, but they're gonna be doing it behind bars.
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Speaker 1: And if Glenn Maxwell thinks that hanging out with this
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Speaker 1: lady's gonna be enough to safeguard, she has another thing coming.
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Speaker 1: Because there's people coming in and out of that prison
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Speaker 1: all the time, and I'm pretty sure that a lot
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Speaker 1: of them don't really care if she's hanging out with
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Speaker 1: Narcy Novak. All Right, folks, it's gonna do it for
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Speaker 1: what's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicle.
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Speaker 1: Gallainne Maxwell is now a resident of Tallahassee Federal Prison
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Speaker 1: and this is where she is going to do her sentence.
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Speaker 1: Now we all know that she asked to go to Danbury.
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Speaker 1: The Bureau of Prisons denied that request, and now well
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Speaker 1: she'll be down in Florida serving out the rest of
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Speaker 1: her bid. And I think people are under the impression
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Speaker 1: that it's gonna be a fun time for her or something,
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Speaker 1: and I'm here to tell you that's not going to
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Speaker 1: be the case. Now. Is it going to be the
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Speaker 1: same as it would be for her if she was,
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Speaker 1: you know, in a medium or high security prison, of
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Speaker 1: course not. Are the dangers going to be the same,
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Speaker 1: of course not. But if anybody thinks she's going to
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Speaker 1: show up there and start giving people dabs in high
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Speaker 1: fives and just be accepted as part of the crew,
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Speaker 1: they're sorely mistaken. Glaine Maxwell's gonna have to pay for
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Speaker 1: protection at this camp, and then once she does that,
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Speaker 1: she's gonna be in the pocket of whoever she's paying,
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Speaker 1: and pretty much at their mercy, because we know she
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Speaker 1: can't protect herself. We know she doesn't have any you know,
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Speaker 1: street friends that are gonna be in there waiting for
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Speaker 1: like it would be if you were a drug dealer
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Speaker 1: or something. Right, if you're somebody who is out here
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Speaker 1: doing dirt, committing crimes, running the streets, chances are you
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Speaker 1: have a few homies who are they're already locked up,
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Speaker 1: so when you hit the yard, you have a few
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Speaker 1: allies right away. Someone like Elaine Maxwell, that's just not
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Speaker 1: the case. So she's gonna hit this yard and it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be a rough go for her. Now, I'm not
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Speaker 1: saying that she's gonna get shanked or anything like that.
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Speaker 1: That's not really a reality in a prison camp for
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Speaker 1: the most part. You would have to do something seriously
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Speaker 1: egregious for that to occur. But that doesn't mean she's
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Speaker 1: not gonna get stunted on, and that doesn't mean she's
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Speaker 1: not gonna be threatened and maybe beating up at some point,
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Speaker 1: because that shit certainly does happen. And you have to
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Speaker 1: remember that there's a lot of people in here, a
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Speaker 1: lot of women who have been abused themselves, so they're
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Speaker 1: not going to take too kindly to somebody like Gallainne Maxwell. Now,
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Speaker 1: there will be other inmates like her who are there
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Speaker 1: for like crimes, you know, fellow travelers and all, and
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Speaker 1: she'll probably be able to make some friends with people
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Speaker 1: like that. But anybody who thinks that Gallaine Maxwell's gonna
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Speaker 1: have a fun twenty years because they teach yoga here
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Speaker 1: is sorely mistaken. Now, what I like harsher penalties for
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Speaker 1: people like Maxwell. Hell yeah, In fact, there should be
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Speaker 1: a special prison for sex offenders where they go and
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Speaker 1: they don't have any contact with other people who might
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Speaker 1: have been abused. They don't have all of the benefits
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Speaker 1: that some of the other inmates might have. That's what
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Speaker 1: I would hope would happen, right, But I don't make
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Speaker 1: the rules. All we can do is navigate this bullshit
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Speaker 1: system that's put into place for us to navigate. And
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Speaker 1: Galagne Maxwell, she's going to have to learn how to
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Speaker 1: navigate prison life. And there's a lot of politics that
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Speaker 1: goes on, and she's gonna have to learn how to
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Speaker 1: adapt to all of that. And if she doesn't, well,
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Speaker 1: you either get with the program or the program gets you.
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Speaker 1: So those are basically her only two choices. Today we
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Speaker 1: have an article from the Toronto Sun. The author is
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Speaker 1: Brad Hunter headline in prison, Gallaigne Maxwell will be a target,
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Speaker 1: no doubt. Trixie, Big Marge and Tammy Sue are rolling
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Speaker 1: out the welcome wagon for the new inmate. Her name
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Speaker 1: is Gallayne Maxwell. She is the latest addition to the
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Speaker 1: rogues gallery, five hundred strong at the United States Bureau
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Speaker 1: of Prisons Florida Panhandle out Post FCI Tallahassee. So we
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Speaker 1: went through some of the other prisoners who are doing
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Speaker 1: their time at Tallahassee or who have done their time
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Speaker 1: at Tallahassee. And when you look at federal prison in general,
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Speaker 1: it's just not a fun time. Like I told you, folks,
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Speaker 1: my loved one, my grandfather was at one of these
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Speaker 1: minimum security camps as well, and let me tell you what,
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Speaker 1: it was still brutal. There was no fun. What do
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Speaker 1: you think he woke up in the morning and was
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Speaker 1: happy that he was able to go to wood shop
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Speaker 1: class or some shit. I promise you he would have
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Speaker 1: much rather had been down at del Mar benting on
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Speaker 1: the ponies. I can promise you that much. And I
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Speaker 1: was talking to another friend who did five and a
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Speaker 1: half years in federal prison, and they started out at
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Speaker 1: a medium security camp prison and then they got moved
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Speaker 1: to a minimum security camp like this, and he was
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Speaker 1: saying the same thing. This shit's not going to be
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Speaker 1: fun for her, especially somebody who comes from a cushy lifestyle.
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Speaker 1: They're telling you what to eat, what to do, what
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Speaker 1: kind of job you have. It's gonna be a whole,
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Speaker 1: entire new world for somebody like Elaine Maxwell. According to
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Speaker 1: my friend, Maxwell sixty was convicted last December of a
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Speaker 1: slew of sex trafficking charges in connection with a sickening
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Speaker 1: scheme authored by her longtime boyfriend, co conspirator, general all
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Speaker 1: around scuzbag buddy, billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. He topped himself
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Speaker 1: in his Manhattan jail cell in twenty and nineteen, allegedly.
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Speaker 1: So we won't go back and rehash that, but I'm
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Speaker 1: not going to sit here and tell you with any confidence, yep,
21:54
Speaker 1: it's a solid deal. Epstein killed himself, There's no doubt
21:57
Speaker 1: about it. Because I don't truly leave that. Just like
22:01
Speaker 1: with religion, I'm pretty agnostic on the whole Epstein situation
22:05
Speaker 1: about how he ended up dying. I'm gonna need to
22:08
Speaker 1: see a lot of evidence to knock me off the
22:11
Speaker 1: perch here because all of these so called coincidences that
22:15
Speaker 1: led up to Epstein's death, I mean, can we write
22:19
Speaker 1: all of that off as coincidence? I mean, I guess
22:21
Speaker 1: you can. I'm not a statistician or anything like that,
22:24
Speaker 1: but it certainly doesn't seem likely to me that all
22:27
Speaker 1: of those coincidences that led up to Jeffrey Epstein's demise
22:31
Speaker 1: were just that coincidences. Apparently he couldn't do the time.
22:38
Speaker 1: In thirty years of dealing with criminals, the one crime
22:41
Speaker 1: that goes beyond the beyonds even with most killers, is
22:45
Speaker 1: harming a child. This is the new reality for the
22:48
Speaker 1: socialite turned sex trafficker. And this is what I've been
22:52
Speaker 1: saying for a very very long time. People can say, oh,
22:55
Speaker 1: it's gonna be soft time, it's gonna be easy time.
22:58
Speaker 1: That's just not the case. It's never easy time for
23:02
Speaker 1: somebody who hurts children. And it doesn't matter if you're
23:05
Speaker 1: in a all male facility or a female facility. Now,
23:10
Speaker 1: the male facility, the chances are you're gonna get assaulted.
23:14
Speaker 1: They're pretty much guaranteed at some point. With the females
23:17
Speaker 1: a little different. I don't think she's going to be assaulted,
23:22
Speaker 1: per se I mean, it's possible, but she's gonna get
23:24
Speaker 1: flexed on, and she's gonna be bullied, she's gonna be
23:29
Speaker 1: forced to buy other people commissary. It's gonna be a
23:32
Speaker 1: whole new world for Ms. Maxwell. And there ain't no
23:36
Speaker 1: running to the guards either to try and snitch on people.
23:39
Speaker 1: That shit is not going to work. If you roll
23:41
Speaker 1: into the guards station and you start snitching on your patriots,
23:48
Speaker 1: well there's a chance that you're gonna get fed up
23:51
Speaker 1: at that point. If you start snitching, you're gonna have
23:54
Speaker 1: to get moved because you're certainly gonna be a target. Then,
24:01
Speaker 1: as in male prisons, pedophiles and their enablers are the
24:04
Speaker 1: lowest of the low. Disdain, contempt, and the calendar their
24:08
Speaker 1: daily companions. And it's true. Look, when you're in one
24:14
Speaker 1: of these jails and that's your crime, everybody's looking at
24:18
Speaker 1: you sideways. The only other people that accept you are
24:21
Speaker 1: the other celmos. That's what they call child molesters in prison.
24:26
Speaker 1: So you're gonna be sitting at a table with a
24:27
Speaker 1: bunch of other chemos and the person that you're paying
24:31
Speaker 1: for protection, well, they're gonna protect you. But that doesn't
24:34
Speaker 1: mean you're sitting at their table. It won't be easy
24:38
Speaker 1: for her. One former convict familiar with the US prison
24:41
Speaker 1: system told me her money won't do her any good
24:44
Speaker 1: unless she spreads it around. She will be a target.
24:47
Speaker 1: There's no doubt. My friend told me the same thing.
24:49
Speaker 1: When we were talking yesterday about this whole entire thing.
24:53
Speaker 1: He was telling me the same exact thing. She's going
24:56
Speaker 1: to one hundred percent get rolled. She's gonna be a target,
25:00
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a lot of people eating good
25:03
Speaker 1: who are around her because she's gonna be buying a
25:05
Speaker 1: lot of people. Commissary, She's gonna need this protection, right,
25:09
Speaker 1: and with that comes cost that's not free, he added.
25:14
Speaker 1: She will need protection inside. Someone will take her under
25:16
Speaker 1: their wing, and it will cost her. Maxwell, the daughter
25:20
Speaker 1: of Disgrace Publishing baron Robert Maxwell, was one of the
25:23
Speaker 1: High Society's bells of the ball in New York, London
25:26
Speaker 1: and Palm Beach. She now faces a very different life.
25:30
Speaker 1: There's no doubt she's gonna need protection, and I wouldn't
25:35
Speaker 1: be shocked to hear that her family set it all
25:38
Speaker 1: up prior to her going in. You know, there's consulting
25:42
Speaker 1: agencies that get you prepared to go and do your sentence.
25:45
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that there are other ways and means
25:49
Speaker 1: if you have some money to get in contact with
25:51
Speaker 1: people who are already in the system and try and
25:54
Speaker 1: get yourself a little bit of a self landing. But
25:56
Speaker 1: that only goes so far. And remember there's other people
26:00
Speaker 1: in there who might have other ideas, and that protection
26:03
Speaker 1: only protects you so far. She is now even box
26:08
Speaker 1: off as poison to her one time coterie of billionaire boosters.
26:13
Speaker 1: No Prince Andrew, no Bill Gates, no body, no Jeff
26:18
Speaker 1: Bezos either. Let's not forget him. We all know that
26:20
Speaker 1: he liked to invite Glene Maxwell to his little you know,
26:24
Speaker 1: rich people gatherings as little barbecues, and Maxwell was still
26:28
Speaker 1: being invited to those for how long, all the way
26:30
Speaker 1: up to what twenty eighteen? And unlike the lux world,
26:35
Speaker 1: she leaves behind where most children of wealth were born
26:38
Speaker 1: on third and think they hit a triple. As Motley
26:41
Speaker 1: Ivans once wrote, Maxwell will put her well manicured hands
26:45
Speaker 1: to work at the bottom. Yeah, that's a pretty good
26:48
Speaker 1: way of saying it, too, Right. All of these people
26:51
Speaker 1: who were born into wealth and then act like they're
26:53
Speaker 1: the ones who hit the triple before they go home.
26:56
Speaker 1: Is hilarious to me. These are the same people that
26:59
Speaker 1: have never really even done a hard day's work like
27:02
Speaker 1: most of you are doing right now as we speak,
27:05
Speaker 1: or driving on your way to go do as we speak.
27:08
Speaker 1: People like Maxwell, they were born and they were born
27:12
Speaker 1: on third base. Meanwhile the rest of us, hell, we
27:16
Speaker 1: weren't even born on the playing field, right, We've had
27:18
Speaker 1: to work our way to even get a spot near
27:21
Speaker 1: the field. But Maxwell, with all of her riches, all
27:25
Speaker 1: of her wealth, all of her privilege, still squandered it.
27:28
Speaker 1: Folks still squandered it. So for all of the nonsense
27:33
Speaker 1: about how smart these people are and how much according
27:36
Speaker 1: to the Daily Mail, that means cleaning toilets for fifteen
27:39
Speaker 1: cents an hour as our first job in jail. Yeah,
27:42
Speaker 1: that's probably a possibility. I mean, when you get to jail,
27:46
Speaker 1: you get to prison, you have a job of some sort.
27:48
Speaker 1: You gotta do something, And chances are Maxwell's gonna end
27:52
Speaker 1: up doing something menial just like that. And the stiletto
27:57
Speaker 1: thin socialite should probably stop complaining and give up hope
28:00
Speaker 1: that yet another wealthy man will ride to her rescue.
28:04
Speaker 1: There's no wealthy men riding to her rescue. At this
28:06
Speaker 1: point that ship is sailed. She's in prison. She's there
28:10
Speaker 1: for at least, you know, twenty fifteen, twenty years. By
28:14
Speaker 1: the time she gets out, what is she going to
28:15
Speaker 1: be eighty? Yeah, the days of a man riding to
28:19
Speaker 1: her rescue, those days are long over. And my guess
28:22
Speaker 1: is if and when she ever does get out, she's
28:25
Speaker 1: going to be abandoned by everybody but prison consultants said
28:30
Speaker 1: the Sunshine State Club fed yoga. Yes please, will be
28:33
Speaker 1: like Disneyland compared to the harsh conditions at Brooklyn's Metropolitan
28:37
Speaker 1: Detention Center, the groomers home of two years. Well, there's
28:41
Speaker 1: no doubt. Look, that's how it's supposed to be. The
28:44
Speaker 1: MDC is a lock up. A federal prison is where
28:47
Speaker 1: people are going to serve bids and trying to rehabilitate themselves.
28:51
Speaker 1: I think we forget about that part with prison. The
28:53
Speaker 1: whole idea is for people to rehabilitate themselves. What do
28:56
Speaker 1: you want people to go to a gulag? Now, don't
28:59
Speaker 1: get a twisted like Maxwell probably should be in a gulag.
29:03
Speaker 1: But for the most part, people in this camp are
29:05
Speaker 1: there for white collar crimes and shit mistakes. Oh I
29:08
Speaker 1: didn't pay my taxes or you know, shit like that.
29:12
Speaker 1: So I'm one hundred percent down with people being rehabilitated
29:16
Speaker 1: and to have these sorts of options. I don't find
29:18
Speaker 1: that to be a big deal. But you have to
29:21
Speaker 1: earn it right. If you're an inmate, you have to
29:23
Speaker 1: do the right thing. You have to be involved, you
29:25
Speaker 1: have to be responsible. You can't get in trouble, no demerits.
29:29
Speaker 1: That's the way I would run things. Experts said she
29:34
Speaker 1: should ditch the poor little rich girl act. It won't fly,
29:37
Speaker 1: nor will the numerous cons who are the victims of
29:40
Speaker 1: sexual violence themselves have much time for the fallen high flyer.
29:44
Speaker 1: That is no doubt right there. That's gonna be her
29:47
Speaker 1: biggest risk. Her triggering somebody who has already went through
29:53
Speaker 1: their own sexual abuse at some point. That's gonna be
29:56
Speaker 1: a big problem for Maxwell. There are some some people
30:00
Speaker 1: who won't appreciate you or even like you. You need
30:03
Speaker 1: to know how to have those conversations, know when to
30:05
Speaker 1: shut up, Holly Coleman, a co founder of Pink Lady
30:09
Speaker 1: Prison Consultants, told The Mail. And there are a lot
30:12
Speaker 1: of these consultant companies. If you're looking at a bid,
30:14
Speaker 1: you could get with one of them and they'll prepare
30:16
Speaker 1: you as the best they can for what's coming next,
30:20
Speaker 1: what's coming down the pipe for you. As far as prison,
30:24
Speaker 1: she must be humble. The key to surviving is minding
30:27
Speaker 1: your own business, keeping a low profile, but her personality
30:31
Speaker 1: is not that way. Another prison consultant, Justin Paperni, echoed
30:35
Speaker 1: the shut up now sentiment. If she blames others for
30:38
Speaker 1: her situation, then her twenty years will feel like a century.
30:41
Speaker 1: Paperni said, that's for sure too. You have to accept
30:45
Speaker 1: your situation for what it is, and then you just
30:48
Speaker 1: have to move on and understand that this is my reality.
30:52
Speaker 1: Now I have to deal with this reality and remember
30:55
Speaker 1: that's the reality she created for herself. While the US
31:01
Speaker 1: Bureau of Prisons website says Maxwell will be eligible to
31:04
Speaker 1: walk into the Florida Sunshine on July seventeenth, twenty thirty seven,
31:09
Speaker 1: here's hoping that Papernie is right, that this horrific human
31:12
Speaker 1: being who shattered lives across the planet resides in an endless, dull,
31:17
Speaker 1: gray loop each day exactly like the other, where there
31:21
Speaker 1: is not a speck of light at the end of
31:23
Speaker 1: the tunnel, only the pitch black that colors her spoiled
31:27
Speaker 1: wicked heart. Yo, Brad Hunter, the author of this piece,
31:32
Speaker 1: has done a fantastic job encapsulating the sort of people
31:36
Speaker 1: we're dealing with throughout this whole deal, and he definitely
31:39
Speaker 1: gets a tip of the cap from me as somebody
31:42
Speaker 1: who has been real solid covering this. And it's crazy
31:46
Speaker 1: to see all the outlets that have done such a
31:49
Speaker 1: good job here. They're not the outlets you would expect,
31:53
Speaker 1: right the Daily Mail, the Sun, you know, the Express,
31:59
Speaker 1: but it goes to sh show you and it shows
32:01
Speaker 1: you in real time the people who were actively engaging
32:06
Speaker 1: in silence. And remember, you know, the silence is almost
32:13
Speaker 1: as bad, right because they knew what was going on,
32:16
Speaker 1: meaning these bigger outlets, and they didn't dedicate the time
32:20
Speaker 1: or the resources needed to really blow this story out
32:23
Speaker 1: of the water. So it was left to other outlets.
32:25
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you they did a fantastic job covering
32:28
Speaker 1: this story and bringing the facts and that's what they've
32:31
Speaker 1: done a lot of the time, bringing the facts to
32:34
Speaker 1: the people. So Glenn Maxwell's in for it, folks. Now again,
32:40
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's gonna be, you know, Alcatraz for
32:42
Speaker 1: that's certainly not the case. But she's in for a
32:45
Speaker 1: real shock to the system, and my guess is she's
32:49
Speaker 1: not ready for that smoke. If you'd like to contact me,
32:53
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32:57
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33:03
Speaker 1: can also find me on Twitter at Bobby underscore caapu Cci.
33:10
Speaker 1: The link that I discussed can be found in the
33:12
Speaker 1: description box. All right, what's up everyone, and welcome back
33:16
Speaker 1: to the Epstein Chronicles. Glaine Maxwell's family has come out
33:21
Speaker 1: and said that they are absolutely shocked that she didn't
33:25
Speaker 1: get a retrial. Well, we're all absolutely shocked that you
33:31
Speaker 1: people would have the audacity to go out there in
33:33
Speaker 1: public and talk about how your sister is innocent. So
33:38
Speaker 1: we're even the fact that Glene Maxwell wasn't given a
33:42
Speaker 1: retrial here is not something to be shocked over. We
33:47
Speaker 1: all know that it takes supreme precedent to get a
33:51
Speaker 1: trial overturned, to get a verdict overturned, and obviously, in
33:56
Speaker 1: the eyes of the court, that did not occur here. Now,
34:00
Speaker 1: Glean Maxwell and her family, well, of course they're going
34:03
Speaker 1: to move on to the next phase, and the next
34:06
Speaker 1: phase is the appeal portion. So they're setting up for
34:09
Speaker 1: that right now. They're trying to begin to wage the
34:13
Speaker 1: war of public opinion, and they'll frame it as such.
34:17
Speaker 1: Glaine Maxwell, well, she's a victim, Glin Maxwell. She was
34:21
Speaker 1: wronged by the system, and Glaigne Maxwell was treated so
34:25
Speaker 1: very badly because she is a fluent and affluent people
34:30
Speaker 1: are treated harshly in this country. That's going to be
34:33
Speaker 1: their defense. And we all know that it's a bunch
34:36
Speaker 1: of bs. We all know that her friends, Golan Maxwell's
34:40
Speaker 1: friends are the ones who wrote these laws. This coming
34:44
Speaker 1: on the backside of learning more about Bill Clinton's relationship
34:49
Speaker 1: with Glenn Maxwell. The fact that Maxwell and Epstein were
34:55
Speaker 1: visiting the White House at such a regular clip, if
34:58
Speaker 1: they were so worried about people getting a raw deal,
35:02
Speaker 1: if they were so worried about the justice system, don't
35:05
Speaker 1: you think that when they had access to all of
35:07
Speaker 1: their rich and powerful friends, that would have been a
35:10
Speaker 1: point of conversation and something they would have pushed for.
35:16
Speaker 1: You See, it's not about rehabilitation or fixing the system.
35:20
Speaker 1: The fact is Glen Maxwell is now sitting and rotting
35:24
Speaker 1: away in a place where, in her mind she believes
35:27
Speaker 1: is only reserved for the rest of us. There is
35:31
Speaker 1: no scenario that you could play out in front of
35:33
Speaker 1: Glen Maxwell that would have her in the position that
35:37
Speaker 1: she is in now, because there is a set of
35:40
Speaker 1: rules for them and there is a set of rules
35:43
Speaker 1: for us, and there is no equity between the two,
35:48
Speaker 1: at least not until recently. And we're only getting a
35:50
Speaker 1: small little taste anyway, but at least it's a little
35:53
Speaker 1: bit of movement. I love seeing the grin wiped off
35:57
Speaker 1: of Maxwell's face, I'll tell you that much. This lady
36:00
Speaker 1: thought she was Scott free, folks. She thought that she
36:03
Speaker 1: was on the down home stretch and nobody was ever
36:06
Speaker 1: going to hold her accountable. Boy was she wrong. And
36:10
Speaker 1: I cannot wait for those victim impact statements. It is
36:14
Speaker 1: going to be bad news for Glenn Maxwell and for
36:19
Speaker 1: the handful of surrogates that somehow still support her. All right,
36:23
Speaker 1: So today our article is from The Guardian and this
36:28
Speaker 1: article is about that topic headline Gallane Maxwell's siblings profoundly
36:34
Speaker 1: shocked by judges rejection of retrial. This article was authored
36:40
Speaker 1: by Guardian's staff and agencies. I wish there was a
36:44
Speaker 1: name attached to that so I could give them some props.
36:47
Speaker 1: But here we are. The siblings of Gallage Maxwell sat
36:53
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. They were profoundly shocked and troubled that a
36:56
Speaker 1: judge rejected a new trial for the British former social man.
37:00
Speaker 1: Let's just go with convicted sex offender, convicted human trafficker
37:04
Speaker 1: who was convicted on sex trafficking charges despite revelations that
37:08
Speaker 1: adjur who helped convictor failed to disclose he was sexually
37:12
Speaker 1: abused as a child. So again the court has spoken right.
37:17
Speaker 1: Judge Nathan made her determination, and the feudal lord that
37:22
Speaker 1: the judges are well they what they say. It's basically
37:26
Speaker 1: set in stone. It takes a whole hell of a lot,
37:29
Speaker 1: as we have learned recently, to overturn a precedent, especially
37:34
Speaker 1: in the same courtroom of the judge who was overseeing
37:37
Speaker 1: the trial in the first place. In a statement, the
37:43
Speaker 1: Maxwell family said it was focused on an appeal against
37:46
Speaker 1: US District Judge aliceon Nathan's ruling last Friday. So that's
37:51
Speaker 1: what it all comes down to, write the appeal, and
37:53
Speaker 1: that's what it's always arrested upon. There wasn't any way
37:57
Speaker 1: Maxwell was going to get this, you know, overturned, and
38:02
Speaker 1: there was a glimmer of hope for her, sure, but
38:06
Speaker 1: when you looked at the tea leaves and you looked
38:08
Speaker 1: at what all of the experts were saying and how
38:10
Speaker 1: the justice system has functioned previously, it just didn't look
38:15
Speaker 1: like a probability as far as her getting a new trial. Now,
38:20
Speaker 1: will she get an appeal here? Who knows, Right, let's
38:23
Speaker 1: see what her team comes up with. But after the
38:27
Speaker 1: survivor impact statements that we're going to get it sentencing,
38:31
Speaker 1: it's going to be really, really hard for Maxwell to
38:35
Speaker 1: sway a court, or to sway jurors or anybody to
38:39
Speaker 1: believe that she is innocent or deserves a second trial.
38:44
Speaker 1: That left intact Maxwell's conviction last year on charges that
38:48
Speaker 1: she served as the key recruiter of teenage girls for
38:51
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, the late sex offender who got rich as
38:54
Speaker 1: a financial advisor to the elite to sexually abuse from
38:58
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four two thousand and four. That's kind of
39:04
Speaker 1: scratching of the surface. No, who got rich as a
39:07
Speaker 1: financial advisor to the elite. How about we going a
39:10
Speaker 1: little bit deeper here, uh, Guardian, and any chance you
39:13
Speaker 1: folks can do that. I know it's your staff writers
39:15
Speaker 1: here or maybe even an algorithm who wrote this. But
39:19
Speaker 1: come on, now, this guy was much more than a
39:22
Speaker 1: financial advisor to the so called elite. This guy was
39:26
Speaker 1: a packer, a money mover and somebody who hid the money.
39:31
Speaker 1: When's whence somebody in power going to talk about that
39:34
Speaker 1: aspect of it? And then the thing is, though, right,
39:37
Speaker 1: if they do, then they're going to have to follow
39:39
Speaker 1: that money and inevitably, like on the streets, if you
39:42
Speaker 1: follow the money on the streets, you're gonna end up
39:44
Speaker 1: at some drug dealer's pad. If you follow the money
39:47
Speaker 1: after it leaves the drug dealer's pad, you're gonna end
39:50
Speaker 1: up at some politicians. And it's the same with this nonsense,
39:56
Speaker 1: the judge said. She concluded that a December verdict convicting
39:59
Speaker 1: Maxwell sixty of sex trafficking and other charges was still
40:03
Speaker 1: valid because the jur did not deliberately give wrong answers
40:07
Speaker 1: on a juror questionnaire, and because he harbored no bias
40:11
Speaker 1: toward the defendant and could serve as a fair and
40:14
Speaker 1: impartial jur Now, Maxwell is going to argue this on appeal.
40:19
Speaker 1: There is no doubt, and I'm guessing that the court
40:23
Speaker 1: will hear her appeal. But what comes after that, highly
40:28
Speaker 1: doubt it's going to be in favor of Glen Maxwell
40:31
Speaker 1: and her team because as of right now, we've seen
40:35
Speaker 1: the evidence, We've seen what came out in that first trial,
40:39
Speaker 1: and I am of the opinion that that is just
40:43
Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg. If they went deeper, and
40:47
Speaker 1: if they were so inclined to go deeper, they could
40:51
Speaker 1: really blow the doors off of all of this. I'm
40:53
Speaker 1: convinced of that. But it would take some backbone, and
40:58
Speaker 1: it would take people who are not scared to go
41:01
Speaker 1: after people in their own so called tribe. You got
41:05
Speaker 1: to have political courage, and when it comes to the
41:09
Speaker 1: prosecutors that we have at the SDNY and elsewhere, to me,
41:13
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like political courage to go after the
41:15
Speaker 1: low hanging fruit all the time. Sometimes you have to
41:18
Speaker 1: take a stand when shit is wrong, and you keep
41:21
Speaker 1: hearing these stories about people like Bill Clinton. When are
41:24
Speaker 1: one of these prosecutors going to stand up and say,
41:26
Speaker 1: all right, we need to do more evidence. I'm more
41:30
Speaker 1: of an investigation here and collect more evidence because the
41:34
Speaker 1: ties are relatively obvious at this point, right, and the
41:39
Speaker 1: fact that they're trying to hide it that's obvious as well.
41:43
Speaker 1: So is anyone going to step up to the plate
41:45
Speaker 1: at any point and force the issue. Maxwell family members
41:53
Speaker 1: said in their statement, our family is profoundly shocked and
41:56
Speaker 1: troubled by the denial of a retrial for our sister,
41:59
Speaker 1: Glenn max Well, adding the court's ruling in this matter
42:03
Speaker 1: is as tainted as the original verdict is unsafe. It's
42:07
Speaker 1: pretty funny that they would call anything tainted considering who
42:10
Speaker 1: their sister is, Miss taint de Ville herself. Everything this
42:14
Speaker 1: lady touch withers. You know, she has like the curse
42:18
Speaker 1: of the beast or the witch or whatever. She walks
42:21
Speaker 1: around and agriculture goes bad, milk curdles, you know, the
42:26
Speaker 1: whole thing talking about something is unclean, something is tainted.
42:32
Speaker 1: Give me a break already. The only thing that would
42:34
Speaker 1: have been unsafe or unclean or tainted would be Maxwell
42:39
Speaker 1: getting a second trial based solely on what that juror
42:42
Speaker 1: had to say. The statement said that the issue over
42:48
Speaker 1: jur number fifties revelations to media outlets after the trial
42:52
Speaker 1: would be one among many issues that will be appealed
42:56
Speaker 1: on the Second US Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan.
43:00
Speaker 1: Our family is optimistic about Glaine's success on appeal. They wrote, Well,
43:04
Speaker 1: your family must be high on DMT, because I don't
43:08
Speaker 1: know how you could be positive and optimistic considering what
43:15
Speaker 1: we know. Isn't this the same line that they sold
43:18
Speaker 1: us right before the trial when they were on their
43:20
Speaker 1: epic pr push to try and make Glaine Maxwell out
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Speaker 1: as a victim. How everybody is wrong and she didn't
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Speaker 1: do anything wrong, She was just, you know, so on
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Speaker 1: along for the ride. They said the same exact stuff, right, Well,
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Speaker 1: how did that all work out for them? How did
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Speaker 1: their confidence come back and pay off in the end?
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Speaker 1: Your number fifties media interviews days after the verdict came
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Speaker 1: after a month long trial which Maxwell was portrayed as
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Speaker 1: the crucial component of Epstein's sexual abuse conspiracy. Sometimes prosecutors
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Speaker 1: said Maxwell joined in the abuse. Well, yeah, that's what
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Speaker 1: the survivor said. I mean, look, let's be very clear,
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Speaker 1: go exactly to the source and hear what they say.
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Speaker 1: And how many of these survivors have painted Maxwell as
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Speaker 1: an integral part of what Epstein was doing, as a
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Speaker 1: key cog in the machine and as somebody as devious
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Speaker 1: and disgusting as Epstein, seems just about every single one
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Speaker 1: of them. Know, we just heard from Juliet Bryant, who
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Speaker 1: reinforced all of the stuff I just said, and that
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Speaker 1: comes on the heels of everything else we have heard.
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Speaker 1: He was among potential jurors in the case who filled
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Speaker 1: out a fifty page questionnaire, including a question that asked,
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Speaker 1: have you or a friend or family member ever been
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Speaker 1: the victim of sexual harassment, sexual abuse or sexual assault?
44:55
Speaker 1: I mean, what a loaded question anyway. Is there anyone
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Speaker 1: out there amongst us who doesn't know somebody who has
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Speaker 1: been sexually assaulted or or has been sexually abused? I mean,
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Speaker 1: the numbers are staggering at this point, so I don't
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Speaker 1: think there's anyone out there who's being honest if they
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Speaker 1: answered no, it right now. I guess I shouldn't say that.
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Speaker 1: I can't generalize. I don't know everybody's circumstances. I'm just
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Speaker 1: saying statistically, it would seem that most people at the
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Speaker 1: very least know somebody who got caught up in a
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Speaker 1: sexual assault situation or you know, something similar. So that
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Speaker 1: seems like a pretty uh, vague question and one that
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Speaker 1: would be a yes from a lot of people. The
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Speaker 1: juror check no. The juror said in one interview that
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Speaker 1: he did not remember being asked that question, which was
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Speaker 1: number forty eight on the form. So according to him,
45:49
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to rehash all of that, according
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Speaker 1: to Scotty David, he was in a rush, he was
45:55
Speaker 1: in the middle of a breakup, and that is the
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Speaker 1: reason that he blew through the questionaire and that it
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Speaker 1: was just an honest mistake. He didn't do it deliberately.
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Speaker 1: He wasn't trying to insert himself in the trial, and
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Speaker 1: he certainly wasn't trying to be a roadblock for them
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Speaker 1: getting justice. That is what the judge came up with
46:15
Speaker 1: when she listened to all of this. That was her interpretation. Basically,
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Speaker 1: after rejecting defense demands that she immediately ordered a new trial,
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Speaker 1: the judge conducted an unusual hearing at which she questioned
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Speaker 1: the juror but decided not to order a new trial. Now, remember,
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Speaker 1: Judge Nathan is moving on now to the Second Court
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Speaker 1: of Appeals, and the Second Court of Appeals has also
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Speaker 1: heard several cases already in regard to Golan Maxwell and
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Speaker 1: this situation, and they have not been favorable when it
46:49
Speaker 1: comes to their rulings and Golan Maxwell, I would expect
46:53
Speaker 1: more of that on the way. I don't think the
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Speaker 1: Second Court of Appeals is going to see it the
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Speaker 1: way Maxwell and her attorneys do. And I certainly don't
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Speaker 1: think that they're going to initiate a new trial for
47:06
Speaker 1: Glen Maxwell on the evidence that we have if the
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Speaker 1: juror situation doesn't initiate that, and it's not something that
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Speaker 1: forces a new trial, I don't think, And in fact,
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Speaker 1: I don't see how they could think that they'd be
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Speaker 1: able to do it anyway. Certainly not on what we
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Speaker 1: heard at the trial. Certainly not on any missteps by
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Speaker 1: Judge Nathan. So I don't know where they'd be coming
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Speaker 1: up with other things besides jur number fifty at least
47:35
Speaker 1: valid reasons. In its statement, the Maxwell family members said
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Speaker 1: the judge had failed to uphold the paramount interests of
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Speaker 1: justice by severely limiting the questioning of the jur and
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Speaker 1: had effectively ensured the loading of the dice by granting
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Speaker 1: him immunity from prosecution for perjury. Well, if she didn't
47:56
Speaker 1: do that, he would have just pleted the fifth. So
47:59
Speaker 1: you know, that's all fine and well to use flowery
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Speaker 1: language like that and to put it out there, to
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Speaker 1: try and shift the narrative to make it look like
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Speaker 1: Maxwell is being mistreated or not getting her rightful. You know,
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Speaker 1: look by the judge when that's not reality. That is
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Speaker 1: certainly not reality. Okay, the loading of the dice, Give
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Speaker 1: me a break. If she didn't grant immunity, the dude
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Speaker 1: wouldn't have talked and we wouldn't have gotten anywhere. So
48:24
Speaker 1: we would have been right where we are today. So
48:26
Speaker 1: what do they really want? Right? The thing is, this
48:30
Speaker 1: is all about positioning. Now. They're gonna look for loopholes,
48:34
Speaker 1: they're gonna look for technicalities, but they're trying to position
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Speaker 1: themselves in a place where they are painting Maxwell as
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Speaker 1: the victim. Now she is now the victim of not
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Speaker 1: only Epstein, but the victim of an out of control government.
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Speaker 1: That's what they're going to try and say. But the
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Speaker 1: reality is very different. We have all seen the picture.
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Speaker 1: We all know who Glen Maxwell is. We don't need
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Speaker 1: the family and their gaslighting tour to tell us. We
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Speaker 1: don't need the government to tell us at this point.
49:03
Speaker 1: And that's because the survivors themselves have been very clear
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Speaker 1: about who Maxwell was, what she was doing, and who
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Speaker 1: she was doing it with. So Maxwell's family can be
49:17
Speaker 1: as confident as they want, they can have as much
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Speaker 1: faith as they want. My guesses and my I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I would say, my I don't know prediction is that
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Speaker 1: she is not going to get a new trial, that
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Speaker 1: she is going to rot in prison for the rest
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Speaker 1: of her life. All right, folks, that's going to do
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Speaker 1: it for this morning's update. There is certainly more on
49:40
Speaker 1: the way. I had a hour long interview with a
49:43
Speaker 1: gentleman named Micah Dank and he talks about all sorts
49:47
Speaker 1: of astrology and how it relates to the Bible and
49:51
Speaker 1: some pretty interesting stuff. So that's gonna be on the
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Speaker 1: way later on and we'll be off to the races, folks.
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Speaker 1: So if you'd like to contact me, you can do
49:59
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50:17
Speaker 1: can be found in the description box. All right, everybody,
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Speaker 1: I will be back later on, so I hope all
50:23
Speaker 1: of you have a great day and we will pick
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Speaker 1: up where we left off.