Latest / HEAVY Music Interviews / Keeping The Flame Burning With KEVIN MARTIN From CANDLEBOX
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- 0:00Hi, my name is Kevin Martin. I believe you're gonna be in countermarks.
- 0:03We are coming to Australia and Rocky Socks. Beautiful Kevin, thanks for
- 0:07joining us today. A pleasure. Thanks for having me. No, as
- 0:11you say, Ray Cambra Box. We'll be touring austray for the first and
- 0:14last time ever next year, starting in Brisbane on January the tenth, before
- 0:18hitting Sydney and Melbourne, finishing me into Adelaide on January the fourteen. So
- 0:21the most obvious question, bro is how and why have you neglected us for
- 0:25thirty years? Well, and then kis asking why they coglected Australia. How
- 0:31did you try to come there from thirty years to talk with the motors of
- 0:34that? How about that? Yeah, it's been a it's been a dream
- 0:38of mind of me, marriage in Australian women. I've got astead of Australian
- 0:43family over there that I love very much. I've been coming to Australia for
- 0:46the past twenty three years. My affinity for that country goes beyond I think
- 0:51it was Australian in the past life. It's it's just one of those things,
- 0:55man, I love that country. I've been trying to come to thirty
- 0:58years. I don't know why it's taken us so long. We've we've asked,
- 1:03you know, several times if you put on something like even the Best
- 1:04of These with Stone Temple Pilots and the guys in live and stuff like that,
- 1:08I guess maybe, you know, Australia the promoters just didn't think we
- 1:11were worth, you know, pop to miss And I don't know, but
- 1:15I cannot tell you how excited I am becoming to play there, man,
- 1:18because I am looking forward to to play in the country that I would hopefully
- 1:23at some point called home. Very good man, and the show is a
- 1:26part of your global farewell to Also, it's gonna be a bittersweet moment view
- 1:30when you're Astralian fans. There isn't it, I think so. I mean
- 1:36it's gonna be more bitter sing for me. I think that it is for
- 1:38them. I mean, I'm gonna give him two hours, you know,
- 1:40each night of my very best, but you know it's saying goodbye in his
- 1:44career. Is it's been strange? I mean, you know, I alsomer
- 1:49long. There's a moment standing on stand age in front of you know,
- 1:51ten thousand of my closest friends, thinking to myself, this is the last
- 1:53time I'm going to sing this song with these people. It's a strange emotion,
- 1:57but I think for me, you know, being home during COVID and
- 2:01spending time with my wife and my son and realizing just how much I had
- 2:06actually missed of that life with them was pretty earthshaking for me. And I
- 2:15sat down with my wife right around I would say, September of twenty twenty
- 2:19October of twenty twenty, I said, listen, I think I'm I think
- 2:22I'm pretty much ready to kind of put all this music thing behind me and
- 2:27be a husband and a father. And is that okay with you? And
- 2:30she says okay with me. I'd be, you know, beyond grateful,
- 2:34but she's like, are you sure that you can put that away? And
- 2:38I said, I don't love it as much as I used to, you
- 2:39know. And I think it was being home for such a long, extended
- 2:44period of time that I realized that music was no longer the love of my
- 2:49life, nor my mistress. It's almost as though she become like a close
- 2:53friend that I would bump into every now and then and didn't really like seeing
- 2:58that much sort of thing sense, and I certainly don't don't want to be
- 3:01an armistic phones it in, you know, I don't want to be that
- 3:04guy. So when we got back out on the road in twenty twenty one,
- 3:07I made sure that the shows that we played where we want to play,
- 3:10that the events that we were involved in were events that I felt were
- 3:16a good place for Candlebox to be. And it was all leading up to
- 3:21this Farewell Goodbye tour of twenty twenty three for the Dead, you know,
- 3:24thirtieth anniversary of your debut album. So I was very conscious about what I
- 3:28was doing. So on that night, Brian like, how do you wrap
- 3:32up over thirty years of music in one show? Must be hard? Well,
- 3:40no, man, I don't know. It's good. I think the
- 3:44last show in Adelaide is going to be pretty strange for me because I'm going
- 3:49to get out a plane the next morning and fly home to Los Angeles and
- 3:53at that point I'm finished up as a toy musician. So I think that's
- 3:59going to be the real kind of moment for me where I kind of absorbed
- 4:04everything that's happened, and I don't know how you put it in I don't.
- 4:10I mean, I don't know. I'm gonna try me this. Yeah,
- 4:13so I was supposed to. This is a fitting a time as any
- 4:15to take this back. It through the history of Candlebox. Bro. So
- 4:18you guys emerged out of the Seattle ground scene in the mid ninety ninety So
- 4:23what was a musical climate like when you when you came into the world.
- 4:26I guess where did Candlebox fit in? We didn't fit it anywhere, unfortunately.
- 4:32You know, We've always been the red edd step child of to see
- 4:34how music scenes. Yeah, you know, I like that, so,
- 4:42you know it's uh. I think when we started the band, we were
- 4:46so much younger than the guys and Alice and Salad Arden and Eurosia. I
- 4:48mean I was I was sixteen when Christmas twenty one, you know. So
- 4:55it was a weird city because every all the eyes in the world were on
- 4:58it. It was over saturating with bands. And then along came these sport
- 5:02knuckleheads in a band called Candlebox and sounded nothing like it any other bands,
- 5:08and no one really knew who we were. I knew a lot of the
- 5:11guys from the Prologium and had a lot of guys from Salad Art. Chris
- 5:14and I were very good friends. Lansday was one of my best friends because
- 5:16I worked in a shoe store that was managed by Susan Silver, who was
- 5:20managing Salad Arden, Allie and Chains and Trees at the time. So I
- 5:28got to know a lot of the musicians from that environment and coming to get
- 5:30flyers from the shows and whatnot, and so I think that they were all
- 5:34kind of surprised that this kid that worked in a shoe store was now singing
- 5:38in a rock band. I was playing drums in a punk band prior to
- 5:40Candleboxes, so don't I don't think it was you know, people were really
- 5:45like, that's the same guy who was playing drums. This is weird,
- 5:48but you know, it worked, but we did not fit in, and
- 5:50we didn't certainly didn't fit in in the Grune movement. We immediately went from
- 5:55the alternative radio play to our hard rock riding playing, which I think was,
- 6:00you know, kind of stupid, but you know, it was just
- 6:03kind of one of those things that happened, and unfortunately we kind of always
- 6:08sat on the outside of that little tiny click of the Seattle rock and roll
- 6:13scene. Mm hm. So you day were yourself to allow ninety ninety three
- 6:17was a massive success, right, Like, what do you put that down
- 6:19to? It? Was it timing, was it the songs on? It
- 6:23was a combination of everything. I think it was everything combined. You know.
- 6:28It was a perfect time for a band like Cattlebox to come out.
- 6:32We created a sound that was unlike anything other than in Seattle except for Made
- 6:36My Other Love Bone. So, you know, I've always kind of said
- 6:40the Cantleboxes like the Journey of the Seattle music scene. You know how Journey
- 6:44doesn't always kind of fit in the San Francisco music scene, never really fit
- 6:48in the kind of bad company world. They were kind of the pop band
- 6:53of the seventies rock and roll scene, and Cattlebox was kind of a similar
- 6:57band. So but I think that the music that we created, and certainly
- 7:01songs like far Behind and You and Cover Me our statements even today still on
- 7:05rocker indio and alternative radio. So we did something right. I think that
- 7:11we we tapped into those emotions of an audience and kind of maybe was a
- 7:15little bit jaded by what had happened with girl Jam and Nirvana and being spoon
- 7:20fed this kind of Seattle music scene that all of a sudden came along with
- 7:24this band of you know, candle Box was like a little bit of a
- 7:27tea spin of sugar, if you will. We're a little bit sweeter than
- 7:29everything else, and I think people were kind of ready for that, and
- 7:31so that's mainly my idea of how it happened. So the music scene has
- 7:38undergone many changes in your Trauma's band, bro, So has Cannibox been a
- 7:42start of band it tried to change with the times or have you sort of
- 7:45stuck to you un popwull? So I've always tried to push the band beyond.
- 7:50I've never chased the trends, which I'm very lucky that I didn't.
- 7:57You know, we after the debut album, we made a record that's complete
- 8:00turn called Lucy, which had nothing to do with the debut album, And
- 8:03then of course happened those came along and it was like a whole other direction
- 8:05for us. So and by the time we got back together in two thousand
- 8:09and seven to do the End of the Sun record, we had grown so
- 8:11much as musicians and artists and songwriters that it was a little bit easier for
- 8:16us to get into a room and write a record. So that's why I
- 8:18think When I Ended the Sun is such a kind of poignant album for us
- 8:24and a and a great record for us who have come back with But we
- 8:28we just you know, we just somehow, somehow it worked. You know.
- 8:35I tried over the years to kind of explain it and figure it out.
- 8:39I'm not really sure now I got here. So looking back now like
- 8:48that, have you think have you a shaved everything you wanted out of music?
- 8:52Do you think, yeah, I've I've achieved. I've achieved. I
- 8:58think it has allowed me Gucci. I don't know if right now I have
- 9:05no desire to make music, and I have no desire to create songs and
- 9:09write songs. I've been asked to produce some records, which I think I
- 9:13would certainly like to do. But no, I don't think. I don't
- 9:18think I've achieved everything musically I want to. But I think music, like
- 9:22I said, has given me a great gift and it's something that I will
- 9:26cherish for the rest of my life. And every time I look at you
- 9:30know, the vinyl that's hanging on my walls, or or you know,
- 9:33the placards or whatever that I've you know, accomplished over those years. It's
- 9:37it's a good, warm feeling in my heart and I'm happy with that.
- 9:43So back to be more modern stuff, right, Like you recently released your
- 9:46fine album along Goodbye. So how fans receive that, I don't know.
- 9:54I mean the ones that I've spoken to you love that they're like, you
- 9:58know, this is the best Catabocs ever made. And I think that that
- 10:01took a minute for them because I don't think they were prepared for me to
- 10:03release a record that's only thirty five minutes long. And and and that's you
- 10:09know, with the viral which comes out I think on Friday, there's an
- 10:11additional three or four tracks on it. So we wanted to make a concise
- 10:16record that it gave you the thirty years of me being in this business and
- 10:20the things that I've learned and the music that I've created, and the lives
- 10:24that I've that I've been affected by or the or the lives that have been
- 10:28affected by me. And I think that in the process of us discussing how
- 10:33to make this record, we found the direction we wanted to go, and
- 10:37that direction was these are the only songs that we want to do right now,
- 10:41this is the only record we want to make. We don't really have
- 10:45any concern as to whether anybody likes it. This is where we are,
- 10:48and this is our our our long goodbye and and and I think that we
- 10:54knew that it was going to be kind of an interesting and to make as
- 11:00a band, because it is. It's been a long, illustrious, kind
- 11:05of strange career for me and I've I discussed all these songs in depth with
- 11:13the guys in the band before we even recorded, and to make sure that
- 11:16we were going in the direction that we wanted to go. I didn't want
- 11:18to make a recommend. This is my last record. You guys are playing
- 11:20on it, And that's what it was like. You're a part of my
- 11:24band. How do you want to be perceived, How do you feel I
- 11:28should be perceived? What are your thoughts on these songs? How much energy
- 11:33do we want to put into this? How much difference? What do we
- 11:35want to create, what textures? What levels do we want to go to?
- 11:39So it was really a fully collaborative effort, and I was very pleased
- 11:43with that, and I was very excited about it. So for me,
- 11:46this is my favorite cantabouts record, and I think that the bands that have
- 11:50hurt it love it, and I just hope that I really it's a record
- 11:56that I want the whole world to hear. I know that's not going to
- 11:58happen, but I think that it should. And I think because I think
- 12:01there are songs in here that but affect you know, most people in positive
- 12:07way, in a positive mm hmmm. And before we go, mate,
- 12:11have you started up three nie Spotify playlists to help listeners get in touch with
- 12:16bands that we interview. So can you give us using candlebox songs? Can
- 12:18you give us a song for a playlist to get the party started, one
- 12:22for a playlist to save your marriage, and one for a playlist that could
- 12:24potentially end your marriage. If the party started, Uh, that would probably
- 12:33be hair. Uh say, the marriage would be the song on the record,
- 12:43and and the marriage it would be Uh. How does it feel off
- 12:52of it? She easy? All right, Cavina, Well, thanks very
- 12:56much. Be time to play man. You have suddenly waking me up and
- 12:58goa be ready for the day. Brother. So we'll see you out here
- 13:01in January. I'll be at the Brisbane Show bro, So let's catch you
- 13:03then, Chris. Thanks by you, look forward to you,