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Kentucky Dogman Encounters with Mark Machek - 5 Nights of Dogman with Dogman Encounters Radio · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Ye baby body. Hey everybody, Happy Halloween. Thank you guys, thanks
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  so much for being here with me tonight. Oh my gosh, I have
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  a very fantastic Halloween special for you guys. I have the honor and the
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  with Vic condaf you guys. Thank you so much, Vic for letting me
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  be a part of that. And yeah, so I have some fantastic dog
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  Man stories for you guys tonight from my very special guest. I have Mark
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  Woman Goods and that's over on Etsy. Okay, awesome, Well, I
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  don't want to waste any time tonight. I would like to go ahead and
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  introduce my guests because we have a lot to talk about this evening. Okay.
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  My guest tonight is Mark Maychek Okay, and he lives around the lbl
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  up in Kentucky. You guys are all probably very familiar. If you're familiar
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  with the dog man stories, you probably all heard about the land between the
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  Lakes. There seems to be a lot of dog man activity that goes on
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  up there, and Mark is here to tell some of his encounters tonight.
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  After a series of odd paranormal events, Mark became interested in the paranormal cryptids
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  and UFOs because of things that he's experienced. He embarked on a journey to
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  understand all those things that he's encountered, all the cryptids, all the paranormal
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  events, all the UFOs and so please help me. Welcome to the Cryptid
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  Huntress Show tonight, my buddy Mark Maychek. Hey, Jessica, thank you
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  for having me. Well, hey, Mark, thank you for being here
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  tonight. Happy Halloween, Happy Halloween. Thank you. Yeah, I believe
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  the veil is the thinnest tonight. So I figured, Hey, let's just
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  let's talk dog man tonight. How about that and and some of your experiences?
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  Yeah, absolutely, Well, Mark, I have not actually talked to
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  you ever publicly on a show. I've never even seen you. I think
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  I saw you on Barton's show, he on his channel. You did an
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  interview at the LBO with him not too long ago. And because you don't,
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  you don't. Yeah, you haven't really talked a whole lot about your
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  experiences recently, other than with Barton that time. So tell my audience a
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  little bit about your background, and let's get into some of your experiences tonight.
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  H Well, as you, as you said, you know, at
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  a young age, I started having adding experiences and a lot of strange things
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  that were going on, and I just, you know, wanted to try
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  to understand the things that I was going through, and it led me on
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  a journey into investigating and looking into the subject of UFOs and then just the
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  regular paranormal ghost type things, you know, because it seems like you knows
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  as we as we talk about these subjects, they're all interrelated at some at
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  some point. So during the course of my you know, looking into the
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  UFOs, I started having spectral or ghost type encounters and that took me into
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  that realm to try to understand that's And then later on I had a encryptid
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  encounter or in humanoid bigfoot, whatever you want to call it, h encounter
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  that led me into looking into that subject. My intent never was to you
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  know, quote unquote looking for a dog man. It just kind of happened
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  that way. But I've been doing this kind of research for a very long
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  time. I tend to work in the background because I'm not so much interested
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  in trying to convince other people that these things are real. More so my
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  mode of operating has been to try to understand it for myself. Yeah.
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  Same same, same here with me in my field research. You know,
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  I'm also a field researcher and uh and I was always in the background myself.
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  I never in a millionaire saw my podcast and like those, I didn't
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  go public with my research for over ten years at all. I didn't want
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  to talk about it. And plus my my team, we're all pretty secretive
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  about what we did because back back when I first started doing the research,
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  it wasn't as popular as Bigfoot, was not as popular as it is today.
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  Okay, and uh and in these stories, and people didn't talk about
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  it as much. Yeah, is that is that kind of where you've your
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  head's been to, because that that's where I was for a long time.
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  Yeah. I just you know, I never was real big into the whole.
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  I'm not a storyteller first off, and you know, I mean,
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  yeah, I can tell a story, but uh, that's not my that's
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  not my avenue of It's not the road that I was traveling down. I
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  was, you know, trying to determine what the truths, what the truth
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  around these things could be. And you know, that's why I chose the
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  tagline from my website that you know, Cryptoville is where the Truth Lives is
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  because I'm not interested in all the fakery, all the chat, GPT generated
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  stories and all that stuff. I want to know the truth. And you
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  know, interesting thing about the truth is you have a lot of people that
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  claim that they want to know the truth, but in fact they don't.
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  They want to know the truth that they can that they can handle, or
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  that fits into their paradigm of or their belief system and anything else side of
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  that. You know, That's why we have so many people that get cast
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  away into the realm of you know, oh, well, he's they're not
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  telling the truth or they're making this story up. Is because a lot of
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  it is because that person can't accept what that is being related to them.
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  And it's very frustrating, you know, when when you're trying, when people
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  ask you about your experiences, and then when you relate that to them and
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  then they they might not instantly turn and say, oh, well you're full
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  of crap or whatever, but at some point you make the determination that they
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  don't believe what you're saying. It's very frustrating because you know you can't.
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  The only thing that's going to make somebody believe something is for them to experience
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  it themselves. And that's another thing that I'm that I've been real big on
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  promoting in the whole time that I've been involved in this is don't listen to
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  what I have to say, go find out for yourself, because at the
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  end of the day, that's the only thing that's going to make you understand
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  or believe anything about the subject. That's exactly what I used to tell people
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  all the time. When anyone would ask me, is bigfoot real, Jessica,
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  I'd say, well, yeah, and I knew that those people that
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  were asking me were just waiting to make fun of me. Okay, I
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  knew it, And I'd say, well, I believe I've experienced bigfoot,
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  I've seen them, But you really need to put on get your on set
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  of hiking boots, and you go out and go camp in and go hike
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  in and find out for yourself, because it really is the only way people
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  are going to, you know, get the experience for yourself. I highly
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  recommend that myself. So I think we're twining. Okay, we both think
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  along those same lines, but we're both also boots on the ground researchers and
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  go out there, and we've been doing for a long time, you probably
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  knowing it longer than I have. And and so that that leads me to
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  yeah, just a little bit, uh, But that that leads me to
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  the question of Okay, I I hear this is a statement first, but
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  I hear a lot of stories that come out of the Land between the Lakes
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  area. And I know that's one of your stopping grounds up there. And
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  uh, and I have looked into the family who was allegedly murdered or massacred
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  up there by dog men, and and and that's that's the the story that
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  a lot of people know about the Land between the Lakes. Now, is
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  there truth in that story in your opinion? And and and does that kind
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  of set the tone for people being a little bit mystified by the Land between
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  the Lakes? Well, I think the story in general sets a tone for
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  you know, people men mystified about the area. And and irregardless of what
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  my opinion is, there there is high strangeness that goes on in that area.
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  In this area, whether you're in the Lbo proper or whether you're on
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  the outskirts there, there is a lot of strange stuff that goes on.
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  A lot of it is a made hush hush were put into the hush hush
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  men and never mentioned and some of it, some of it, you know,
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  is publicly shared with people. Now, as far as that event goes
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  itself. You know, there were there were only just a few people that
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  really actually spent time with Jan Thompson to try to garner whether or not there
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  was factual uh information in her recounting of that event. And uh that was
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  by myself and at at separate times, myself and Martin Nunneley. We we
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  both spent time with Jan trying to determine, you know, whether the story
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  was factual or whether it was you know, a fabrication. And you know,
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  I spent a week with her, you know, every day I would
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  go over and we would meet it, you know, and go look at
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  different things, and you know, you can really the only way that you
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  can determine, you know, the truthfulness behind some things is to actually spend
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  more than just thirty minutes talking to somebody about it. You have to,
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  you know, spend time with them and develop a a picture of their true
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  character is probably a good way to put it. And there were My opinion
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  is this regarding that that event. I'm not going to say that it's not
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  true. I'm not going to say that it did happen. I'm kind of
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  in that middle ground where there's enough about the story that points towards it being
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  true, and then there's enough about the story that points towards it not being
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  one hundred percent true. And some of those things that come into in the
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  play are, for example, one thing, the day that jam was supposedly
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  going to take me to the location of where this event took place. The
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  first location that we went to, she was like, well, I don't
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  know if this is the spot or not. And this looks right, but
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  I'm not sure. And then we went to the historical the historically known location,
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  and she was like, this looks like the right spot. And you
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  know, because of you know, the cemetery being there and other factors that
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  came in into the just the the environment, she believed that that was the
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  correct spot. Now, if if I was relating a story and and I
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  told you, you know, hey, I can take you to this spot,
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  I'm going to take you to the spot, you know, and I'm
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  gonna be one hundred percent sure that I'm taking you to the spot. I'm
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  not gonna be unsure about it. So that's one one thing that that points
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  in the in the in the direction that it that it is possibly not one
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  factual. But likewise, I've talked to so many people in this area,
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  and I've had so many people come up and and and when I've asked about
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  this event, they've said, oh, yeah, that actually happened. But
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  interestingly, once they found out, you know, what I was about and
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  what my interest was in the story, oh well it never happened where they
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  didn't want to They didn't want to talk about it. And that's another interesting
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  factor that comes into play. Is you know, you've got these people that
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  say that, you know, they talk to these people and you know they
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  tell them this. And I'm not saying that that people don't give up information,
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  but you know, I've lived in this area for twenty five years and
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  I know how. I mean, I know how the people are. They're
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  not just going to tell you everything you ask. They're not going to give
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  you information like that. So, especially from somebody that's from outside the area,
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  I'm right not really buying it. So the result of that was I
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  just called it a draw. You know. I mean, I've talked to
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  enough people that say that it happened, and I've talked to enough people to
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  say that it didn't, and you know, the things that point towards it
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  not being you know, legit. It's kind of there's not enough there to
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  say one way or the other. So that's kind of where I was left
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  with that. The flip side of all that, there's go ahead, no,
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  no, you go ahead, go ahead. On the flip side of
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  that, there is enough information that came out of my interactions with Jan that
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  led me to believe that even if there were embellishments or you know, the
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  story was grandized, a grandized in some way, that there may be parts
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  of that are true. And that's a discussion for another another day. Those
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  those things, because they're totally unrelated to this event. Okay, well,
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  okay, so well, for my viewers who are watching tonight, if they're
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  not familiar with the LBL family who was allegedly killed unalived for YouTube purposes at
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  the LBL, that's that happened back in the early nineteen eighties, and allegedly
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  there was a family, a mother, a father, two kids. Some
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  say that there was an extra child there too, But yeah, the story,
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  the stories have changed a little bit back and forth over the years,
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  I'm sure, but allegedly a dog mannered possibly two, came in them killed
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  them at a campsite, right Mark that's what. Uh, that's what basically
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  the story is in a nutshell. In a nutshell, you know, I've
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  I've you know when I when I say that I'm not a podcaster or storyteller.
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  But one thing that I am good at is I do I do love
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  to research. And one thing that I have researched is I've gone back and
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  looked at, you know, old newspapers and news events from different sources and
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  tried to, you know, determine whether there was anything, you know,
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  during that time period that that that happened. And interestingly, one thing that
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  I did come across is there was a there was a physical what am I
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  trying to relate it as a library of sorts of physical newspapers that you could
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  go look through that were from the early sixties up at the present. And
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  at some point those physical newspapers were converted into digital format where you can access
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  them online. And one thing that I noticed was in that conversion there was
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  a whole lot of information that was stripped out of those newspapers. Oh suspicious,
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  So why that happened, I don't know, but it did happen.
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  So the things that you're seeing online aren't really the core or the full picture
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  of what was reported in the news during those earlier years. Wow. Wow,
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  Okay, Well you've done your research on that, and not only have
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  you done your research, but you've had personal experiences out there. So knowing
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  what you know and seeing what you've seen, you do think it's possible that
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  dogmen potentially did attack of family. What do you think about it? I
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  mean, other than your research, do you think it was possible? I
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  definitely think it's possible. Now. Granted, the two times that I've ran
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  into these things, I wasn't, you know, attacked, accosted or anything
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  like that, and they were at a distance, not a great distance,
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  but at enough distance where I wasn't like face to face with these things.
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  And I can see where if you were to run up on one, you
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  know, and be within close proximity to it, within arms reach or whatever,
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  I could see the potential there, like with any wild animal or anything
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  out there, for it to turn out to be a bad situation. So
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  yeah, I can see where it's possible. Yeah. Well, it seems
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  as though the majority of reports that I've heard and that I've taken from guests
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  that I've had on my shows and in the general public. You know,
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  we go out and take reports, and I've taught with sheriff's deputies here in
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  the county where I live in Georgia, who have taken reports about people hitting
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  were wolves that ran out in front of their car. They swear they're reale
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  were wolves, or they never use the word dog man, they say wear
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  wolves. But it was never like the people were being attacked or even felt
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  that. They just were scared because they couldn't understand what they were looking at.
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  But they weren't being violent against the humans. And I think that that's
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  the majority of the stories that I hear. I mean, these days,
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  on all the different YouTube channels, a lot of times you just hear about
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  dog man attacks. You know, it's like the violent side of dog man.
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  I hear that all the time, and I think that gets a lot
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  of views on a lot of shows and so and I've been guilty of,
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  you know, having shows where we're talking about dog man attacks, okay,
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  because it's really interesting to look into. But how many dog man attacks could
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  there possibly be? I don't. I don't know, because the majority of
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  the stories I get are non violent. Well, you know, that's that's
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  a that's a very interesting concept. And you know, I mean the thing
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  about it is, you know, if if something like that were to happen,
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  the odds of it being hushed up or covered up are far greater than
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  it not being because I mean just the nature of it. I mean,
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  what would happen if if somebody came out and put it in the news that
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  oh, there was a guy killed by dog man or a werewolf in in
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  the LBL and you know it was validated and what have you. You know,
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  that would that would instantly people would be like, I'm not going over
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  there right, Well, it would. It would cause a problem with the
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  National Park Service and the state park services because that's those are revenue sources for
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  the for the government and uh and they don't want people not to go there
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  and go camping. But it's really at our expense because I part of what
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  I like to talk about on my shows usually is I'd like to warn people
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  about the dangers of being in the woods, especially by yourself, with all
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  the missing for one one cases and the clusters that David Politis talks about in
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  his book series. Because we experienced that, you know, on a first
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  hand basis, not that anybody, any of my friends have gone missing out
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  of these parks. But we're out there studying, trying to figure out wh
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  where the sebell are going, uh, trying to get a grip on what
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  kind of cryptids we're dealing with out there some of these parks, and and
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  just across the forest across the south. So I think there's just a vested
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  interest in keeping us in the dark about all this. I would have to
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  agree. And you know, I mean there's there's a whole lot of reasons
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  why that could be. And you know, I mean it's just which one
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  is the correct the reason, you know, I mean naturally, Naturally,
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  you know, if you're if you're raising these things up in a lab and
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  you're you have to you know, if it gets to where once it gets
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  you know too, you know, adulthood or near adulthood, you know,
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  you're going to have to feed the thing, you know, so you know
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  what a what a better thing to do than to turn it down into a
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  national forest to where it can go out there and you know, hunt and
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  and survive on its own, you know, I mean, it's a food
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  source. Okay, Okay, I just I just remembered something. Mark I
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  have some of my teammates that had gone up to the LBL a while back,
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  and uh, and usually with a lot of these parks that we'll go
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  into, they want you to make your presence known. You got to sign
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  in, you need to put some money in the little things, you're going
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  to stay in the in the little box. We're going to stay at the
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  camp sites out there. But I believe they were telling me that at the
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  LBL they did not want to know that they were there. Okay, Uh,
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  there was They were like, no, you don't got to sign in,
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  don't worry, you just go and and it was very suspicious to them.
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  They were like, okay, well they don't want to have any trace
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  of us being there, which which actually added to the mystery of the place,
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  I guess, and it also gave them cause for concern, they said
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  when they got in there a little bit. Well, it's definitely you know,
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  I mean, if you look at most national parks. The I think
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  the difference in it in the LBO and a national park is it's not an
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  official national park. It's a recreation area, but you know, it's still
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  managed by the Ford Service and Department of Agriculture, So it stands the reason
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  to me that it would fall under that same guideline where you would have,
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  you know, some reporting in there. And one thing that I personally have
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  noticed is that there seems to be a trend where they're gearing more towards that
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  when you go to one of the organized campgrounds or what have you, where
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  they want you to sign in, where they actually log your license plate number,
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  even if you're just visiting for the day or whatever. You know,
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  So, I mean, you have to you have to weigh it, you
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  know. I mean some people would be okay with that, some people wouldn't.
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  Myself, you know, I'm I'm not in the business of broadcasting what
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  I do or where I go, right, and I don't. I don't
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  particularly care for that. But from their standpoint, if they're required two,
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  you know, maintain some kind of record of that, then knock yourself out.
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  But the whole thing with you know, dispersed camping or unorganized camping,
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  yeah, for the most part, they don't. They don't want to know
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  anything about what you're doing. The only thing they want you to do is,
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  you know, abide by the rules, you know, as far as
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  camping. You know, I think I can't remember what it is. You
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  got to be so many, so many feet off of a road, so
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  many feet away from a cemetery, you know, And that's an other thing
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  that you got to look at from the whole perspective of you know, the
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  LBL. There's two hundred and what is it, two hundred and twenty eight
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  cemeteries in the place. So yeah, so I mean there's it's I mean,
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  there are places that go camp without being near a cemetery, but that's
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  a lot of cemeteries, it is. And dog men are commonly seen around
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  cemeteries. That's just you know, Indian burial mounds and cemeteries are commonplaces to
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  see dog men. That is true. Very interesting. I have a question
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  for you. Okay, so you did mention a while ago, and we
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  haven't even gotten into your stories yet. Okay, so I still got to
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  hear those I can't wait. But but you had mentioned potentially these dog men
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  being grown in labs. Okay, what do you think a dog man is
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  the ones of the LBL particularly, do you think that they could be some
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  sort of a government super soldier program or a breeding program or a government assets
• 29:04
  or are they natural? Well, my opinion on the thing is is on
• 29:14
  dog man in general, is I think that we're actually dealing with three different
• 29:18
  types. I think there are those that occur naturally. I think that there
• 29:23
  are those who are you know, the result of some kind of high strangeness
• 29:34
  linked to dark magic. And then you have the ones that are chimeric in
• 29:42
  nature, which are basically lab grown under human control to some degree. And
• 29:49
  then you know, I think that those those three genres of this this type
• 30:00
  creature, you know, uh, coming to play a lot more than we
• 30:07
  realize. And you know, for example, myself, my two two encounters
• 30:14
  where you know, I knew that that's what I was seeing, these two
• 30:18
  different These two creatures were totally different. So you know when I had one
• 30:27
  that I saw that that was straight up fan helsing type dog man and then
• 30:33
  the other one, you know, human type body, hair covered, human
• 30:40
  type body with a wolfish type head. You know that's those are, in
• 30:48
  my way of looking at it, two different types. Now, as far
• 30:53
  as how many types there are, I don't know. I know that the
• 31:00
  wonderful people in the community have come up with the different variants and all this
• 31:04
  stuff through the years. Oh, I have a picture, do you want
• 31:08
  to see it. I think we've got these are these are some of the
• 31:12
  different types. Hyena types, the van helsing types. I mean there's actually
• 31:18
  I think the top those might be those might be sasquatch up there. But
• 31:22
  yeah, there's there's different types and uh, they're they're all very organized.
• 31:26
  But but it's probably a lot bigger than that I would have seen. Yeah,
• 31:30
  but it's it's easier to categorize things when you're trying to explain your story
• 31:33
  to people. I guess and like your encounter. But with that, you
• 31:38
  know, uh uh, I make that assumption or I have that opinion based
• 31:45
  on the fact that I have seen those two different types. And I'll be
• 31:52
  the first to tell you, you know, the people that that say,
• 31:57
  oh, I want to see a dog man or I want to see a
• 32:01
  bigfoot or whatever. I've always another thing that I've always promoted is be careful
• 32:07
  what you wish for, because you just might get it. You know,
• 32:13
  once you see one of these things, you can't unsee it, and you
• 32:19
  have no idea how you're you're going to respond to the situation. So to
• 32:24
  say that you're going to respond in a way is is a total unknown because
• 32:37
  of the simple fact that you don't really know how you're going to respond to
• 32:39
  it until it, you know, until it happens, you know. I
• 32:44
  mean if you if you walk up on one of these things and you're like
• 32:47
  face to face to it or whatever, you don't know how you're going to
• 32:52
  respond to that, I wouldn't know how to respond to that. You know,
• 32:57
  do you try to run? You know? So I always tell people
• 33:07
  to be careful about what they wish for with with with these things, because
• 33:12
  you know, you just don't You never know what you're gonna get and you
• 33:15
  have no control over you know, how it's going to happen. You know.
• 33:21
  I've had I've had two encounters, as I've mentioned, and I'm fine
• 33:28
  with that. I could go the rest of my life and never see another
• 33:30
  one and be perfectly fine. So I just if I had to tell somebody
• 33:46
  something about that, I would say, just be careful because you really don't
• 33:54
  know how you're gonna respond to an encounter. Oh yeah, tell me about
• 34:05
  your first Encountermark, what what was the first time What was the first time
• 34:07
  you ever saw a dog man? So it was I was thinking about this
• 34:14
  the other day and it was I'm sorry about the dog parking. I have
• 34:17
  a little I have a little munchkin out there, and she's mean. So
• 34:30
  I was thinking about this the other day, and it was it was pre
• 34:34
  dear season, the month of September of I won't to say it was two
• 34:43
  thousand and nine or twenty ten, it was one of those two years.
• 34:50
  I had gone into an area where I was planning on hunting. And I
• 34:58
  went into the area, and to kind of give you a picture of it,
• 35:00
  there's kind of like a hill on this side, general sloping hill that
• 35:07
  slopes up about I would say maybe forty is degrees. On the right side,
• 35:16
  it's kind of bowl shaped and it comes around and it flattens out.
• 35:22
  There's some sparse trees. But in the middle of the field that I was
• 35:25
  walking in, there's a runoff. Well up on the tip of the runoff
• 35:34
  where the woods curved around, there is a spot up there where I was
• 35:39
  looking at hunting. So I knew that that runoff would have, you know,
• 35:45
  bare ground, So I went in there to look for deer tracks,
• 35:50
  and because I knew that what lived in that area, I was looking to
• 35:58
  see if I could find any bigfoot tracks. So I walked in walked up.
• 36:06
  I didn't see any any tracks that belonged to anything. So I walked
• 36:10
  through the edge of the woods and I turned around and I came back,
• 36:15
  and I was just walking along a different route within the same area of bare
• 36:20
  ground, and you know, trying to find tracks. And I got down
• 36:27
  to this certain point and I stopped, and I was looking around, and
• 36:31
  I kind of glanced up on that sloping hill and I was just standing there.
• 36:38
  And bear in mind, one thing I should have mentioned was that I
• 36:45
  had a camera with me, just a little digital camera, and because you
• 36:52
  know, if I found anything, I was gonna, you know, more
• 36:54
  so for the cryptid tracks, I was going to try to document it.
• 37:00
  So I'm standing there and I'm looking around and just I don't know how to
• 37:05
  explain this. I don't know how this works. But I knew that there
• 37:08
  was something around me because I can sense it. So I was looking around,
• 37:19
  and up on the sloping hill there was a bush that was kind of
• 37:28
  by itself, and then there was like maybe thirty thirty five forty yards between
• 37:35
  the trees, and it was you know broom stage grass, you know,
• 37:43
  growing up around it, so you know, and it was kind of knocked
• 37:45
  down in different areas. So when I looked up and I saw this bush,
• 37:52
  what I thought I was looking at it was a I thought it was
• 37:55
  a deer standing directly behind this bush, because you know how if you look
• 38:01
  at the underside of the neck of a deer, they've got that white spot.
• 38:07
  And it was looking straight at me, and I'm like, wow,
• 38:13
  the deer is just standing there looking at me on the top of that bus,
• 38:16
  and I was like, that's so weird. I was like just standing
• 38:21
  there watching him, and I was waiting for him to move, and he
• 38:22
  never did. And then this thing, what I thought was a deer,
• 38:29
  turned its head to the to its right, and when it did, I
• 38:32
  could see the side of its head, I could see its ears, I
• 38:39
  could see its muzzle, and the way I could describe it is it looked
• 38:47
  kind of cartoonish, kind of like Wiley Caywodie, but super huge. Wow.
• 38:55
  And on the side of its muzzle it looked like to me, it
• 39:00
  had taken it, like if somebody had taken its fingers, or it had
• 39:06
  taken its fingers and put it in something white, like some kind of white
• 39:10
  loamy soil or whatever, and just made like mars on the side of its
• 39:15
  fate snout more paint. Wow. Well that's kind of what it looked like
• 39:22
  to me. Wow. But I was like looking at it. I was
• 39:27
  like, I have got to get a picture of this, because if I
• 39:30
  tell anybody this, they're not going to believe it. So I was standing
• 39:34
  there and I was like trying not to move, and I had the camera
• 39:37
  in my hand, and as soon as I hit the power button to turn
• 39:43
  the camera on, this thing duck down behind the bush and I was like,
• 39:49
  oh crap, where did it go? So I was standing there.
• 39:51
  I was kind of scanning back and forth looking for it, and I was
• 39:54
  like trying to find it because I knew it was gonna pop up somewhere else.
• 40:00
  Well, I started looking and I didn't see it anywhere, so it
• 40:07
  went down behind the bush. It was down behind the bush for about,
• 40:10
  I don't know, thirty forty seconds, and then I was just standing there
• 40:16
  trying to locate this thing, looking all over the place, and I focused
• 40:22
  back on the bush, and when I did, I could see it.
• 40:23
  It was down on this ground, on the ground, on its belly,
• 40:28
  and it was crawling away from that bush. And the strangest thing. As
• 40:35
  I mentioned in my previous interview with Barton Uttley, the strangest thing about the
• 40:42
  whole experience was that as it was crawling away, I watched it cloak one
• 40:57
  of its legs. It's like started at its ankle or in the base of
• 41:02
  its foot, and it slowly was going up its leg. How that works,
• 41:08
  I don't know. All I can relate to you is what I saw.
• 41:15
  And by the time it got out of my view, it had already
• 41:17
  got up to its knee and was like mid thigh, and I was like
• 41:22
  thinking to myself, I was like, what in the heck did I just
• 41:24
  see? And then I was like I was kind of lost focus of it
• 41:30
  because it went out of you and I got to looking around, and I
• 41:34
  was like, it's starting to get dark. It's time to go because if
• 41:39
  it can cloak, you know, I'm not wanting to be out here in
• 41:44
  the dark with something that can cloak. And you know, that's basically that
• 41:52
  particular encounter. I never saw it again after that. It went out of
• 41:54
  my view and I just totally totally lost it and I was like, no,
• 42:01
  it's time to go. Row. Did that Did that prevent you from
• 42:07
  going back? To the LBO for a while, or did you go back
• 42:09
  and investigate the next day? I mean, what what was your thought process
• 42:14
  after all that happened, Well, that particular location. Just to clarify that
• 42:17
  that particular location and both of these encounters so that everyone is clear, they
• 42:23
  did not happen inside of the LBO proper, but they took place just on
• 42:32
  the other side of the lake from the LBL, on private property, Okay,
• 42:42
  in Kentucky, right, correct, Okay, So I would say straight
• 42:52
  line in that particular location, the lake is approximately I would say the lake
• 43:00
  is probably in the neighborhood of around four thousand feet wide, so I would
• 43:08
  say that I was probably a mile mile and a half from the LBL,
• 43:15
  not really not really that far. Yeah. So yeah, I just kind
• 43:22
  of I was like, no, it's getting dark. I'm not wanting to
• 43:24
  be out here with something like that, whether it you know, was just
• 43:28
  crawling off on his belly to go do his thing or whatever, I'm not
• 43:31
  interested in being out here with it. And I got out of there.
• 43:39
  Yeah. I've personally had an encounter with what my team and myself we believe
• 43:45
  was a cloak sasquatch that ran up and hit me on the back of my
• 43:49
  legs from behind, and so it happens. It happens. Now how they
• 43:54
  cloak, We're not sure, but I do believe that that does happen.
• 43:59
  It's almost like The Predator, you know, the movie The Predator. And
• 44:02
  is it some sort of technology? I don't know. I mean, some
• 44:07
  say that the Bigfoots have chlorophyll in their hair and they can kind of camouflage
• 44:12
  into the trees and the shrubbery and the surroundings, all the vegetation out there.
• 44:15
  So the same could be said for dog Man. Apparently, who's to
• 44:20
  say, Well, the interesting thing is is we don't know. We don't
• 44:28
  know, that's right, you know, we don't know. You know.
• 44:31
  Early in my days of research, you know, I thought about it like
• 44:34
  this. You know, if if these things are part of some kind of
• 44:40
  super soldier program or whatever, if what would you do, what would you
• 44:46
  put into it? You would put the best of everything that you could into
• 44:51
  it, right, So it makes sense to me that it would have,
• 44:55
  you know, abilities that are far beyond on what what we could probably even
• 45:05
  comprehend, you know. And then then the factor of, you know,
• 45:09
  one thing, I never hear anybody mention about the whole camera thing is you
• 45:17
  know, it is possible for attributes genetically to be amplified. So you know,
• 45:30
  take take for example, sense of smell. You know, if they
• 45:34
  take and they give this thing the sense of smell of a wolf. You
• 45:38
  know, a wolf can smell you several miles away, or it can it
• 45:45
  can smell miles away. But if that's that particular attribute is amplified, it
• 45:52
  could probably smell what you had for breakfast three weeks ago. Oh yeah,
• 45:57
  that's scary to think about. And and you know night vision, cloaking,
• 46:02
  I mean telepathy, right, being able to mind speak and uh, you
• 46:08
  know, enhance enhance capabilities when it comes to things. And I was going
• 46:12
  to say enhance human capabilities. But do you think that dog men have human
• 46:15
  attributes to them? Are they more dog like? Well? I think that
• 46:29
  because in my opinion, you know, we're dealing with three different types here.
• 46:35
  I think that there there may be some human genetics involved there on at
• 46:43
  least two of the types. Now, the naturally occurring uh dog men,
• 46:50
  I think they they could be just what they are, you know, and
• 46:57
  what that is I don't know. But you know, if you were going
• 47:00
  to genetically engineer something. It makes sense to me that on some level that
• 47:07
  it would have human human genetics involved, because you would want that reasoning and
• 47:13
  problem problem solve solving ability that that humans have some humans have let me rephrase
• 47:20
  that some humans. Some humans have that ability. But you know, and
• 47:28
  then and then there's there's other things that come into play too that that could
• 47:34
  be factors and why they would choose human human genetics to use in a in
• 47:38
  a camera like that, and and those things are you know, if if
• 47:47
  you were to ponder the the greatness of what humanity is, then you know,
• 48:04
  I mean, even if you were to look at it from a biblical
• 48:06
  standpoint. You know, according to the Word of God, humans are God's
• 48:13
  greatest creation, and that is because we were designed with free will and we
• 48:23
  have the abilities that we have, even though the majority of us have forgotten
• 48:30
  those abilities. You know, it just stands to reason that you would want
• 48:37
  to include those things and maybe try to amplify them as well into a chimeric
• 48:50
  type entity. And you know, as far as getting into the whole nephilum
• 48:57
  you know thing, you know, that's that's a discussion for another day,
• 49:02
  but it definitely is something interesting to think about. Yeah, well that's a
• 49:09
  that's a very interesting encounter. And uh, but that's not your only encounter
• 49:15
  you had. You had at least one more. Uh, do you want
• 49:16
  to tell us about that one? So this one, this was a little
• 49:21
  bit of a lengthy story. So during the time that I was living in
• 49:27
  that area, I was having repetitive bigfoot type activity. I had one on
• 49:43
  several several occasions that decided that it wanted to smack the back of the building
• 49:50
  that I was living in in the middle of the night and wake me up,
• 49:54
  and just different things, just all kinds of all kinds of different,
• 50:00
  strange, interesting things. So I'm sorry, I got a little bit of
• 50:07
  a sniffle going on. So in in the course of all that, I
• 50:13
  had contacted a good friend of mine and he was like, Hey, why
• 50:19
  don't you reach out to this guy. We just put this website up and
• 50:28
  see if you'd be interested in, you know, maybe adding your story to
• 50:31
  the website if you want to. I'm sure he would be interested in in
• 50:37
  what's going on in your area. So I contacted him and got to talking
• 50:47
  to him, and I didn't know what at the time, but this particular
• 50:54
  individual was involved with a with a research group that shall remain unnamed, but
• 51:06
  has obviously uh some connections to some some other external organizations outside of itself.
• 51:17
  So long story short, I contacted him and related to him what was going
• 51:22
  on, and he acted very disinterested in what I was relating to him,
• 51:29
  which is fine. So I hung up with him and went on about my
• 51:37
  evening. Uh three hours later, I was sitting there watching TV and uh,
• 51:47
  I hear a vehicle turned in on the road that I lived on.
• 51:52
  And that time of the night, you know, it was ten ten thirty,
• 51:57
  there's not a lot of traffic, and if there is traffic, you
• 52:00
  know, usually you can tell who it is. Right. So I'm sitting
• 52:06
  there and I pulled the curtain back when I heard the vehicle turn in because
• 52:07
  it sounded like a very different kind of vehicle. I could tell this was
• 52:14
  a diesel powered vehicle. And I didn't know anything. Yeah, I didn't
• 52:19
  know anybody that drove that kind of vehicle. So it naturally caught my attention,
• 52:23
  and I pulled the curtain back, and I looked real quick, and
• 52:27
  I was like, what in the world, And this thing, this vehicle
• 52:30
  was kind of like a big, huge, white I call it an M
• 52:35
  wrap. It's one of those big armored vehicles that you see law enforcement using
• 52:39
  for swat teams and stuff like that. This thing, yeah, this thing
• 52:45
  was white in color, and it drove down past where I was living at
• 52:52
  and after it got out of sight, I pulled the curtain back again and
• 52:58
  I looked and an interesting thing and never because the road actually went into a
• 53:01
  loop, and it never went on the bottom end of the road, so
• 53:07
  I know that it didn't make the loop right and it never turned around and
• 53:10
  came back out. So I didn't really pay too much attention to it at
• 53:15
  that point. I just thought, hmm, that's weird. So I just
• 53:21
  kind of went on about my business. And the next night I got to
• 53:29
  talking to the landlord and they were relating to me that there were people outside
• 53:37
  at night in the field the night before when I saw the vehicle, and
• 53:44
  they were there were like a bunch of people out there with flashlights, you
• 53:51
  know, looking around and hollering, and they even heard a couple of gunshots,
• 53:54
  and you know, just real strangeness. Been that gentleman you or that
• 54:00
  person with the with the Bigfoot re Bigfoot organization or whoever you reported that to.
• 54:06
  Did you give that person your address where the had been or the thing?
• 54:12
  No, he had he had no idea where I was at. Oh
• 54:16
  okay. So that's another interesting aspect to the whole thing, is I had
• 54:22
  to ask nobody. Yeah, that's a good question. Nobody really knew that
• 54:28
  I was even living there. So that went on for about two or three
• 54:34
  nights, people out in the fields at night, flashlights, hearing gunshots and
• 54:39
  hollering, and I was like, what are these people doing? And I
• 54:45
  was like, it's kind of weird. So I didn't really think anything of
• 54:51
  it, but that that Friday came around, and when I got from work
• 55:00
  that evening, I went out. The sun had already gone down. The
• 55:05
  stars were like real bright in the sky, and I was just standing there
• 55:08
  looking up at them. So I walked out into the road and I walked
• 55:13
  up to kind of a hilltop that was kind of like more in front of
• 55:16
  the landlord's house than it was where I was living at. So I was
• 55:24
  standing there on top of the hill and I was just looking at the sky,
• 55:28
  looking at the stars, looking around, and I looked happened to glance
• 55:34
  down, and when I did, there was something. I thought initially that
• 55:38
  it was a deer. It came from the field on the right hand side
• 55:43
  of the road and ran into the field on the left hand side of the
• 55:45
  road extremely fast, and I was like, wow, that was fast,
• 55:52
  and I was like standing there waiting to see what was chasing it, because
• 55:54
  as fast as it was going, you know, at night time, generally
• 55:59
  a deer that's running like that is not is gonna have something chasing it.
• 56:02
  So I was thinking maybe a Kyloe's chasing or whatever. So I stood there
• 56:07
  for a minute and was looking waiting to see something come out, and nothing
• 56:09
  ever came out. So I just kind of, oh, well, he
• 56:13
  was just passing through. So I went back to you know, looking at
• 56:16
  the stars and what have you, and I glanced down again, and when
• 56:20
  I did, this thing was at the side of the road and it was
• 56:24
  looking at me, and I was like looking at it. It was looking
• 56:29
  at me, and I was like and and at this time, the landlords
• 56:34
  dogs had come out with me and they were kind of standing there. They
• 56:38
  didn't see this thing or since it they were just standing there with me.
• 56:45
  This thing was standing at the at the side of the road. So my
• 56:52
  impression was that it had come back after it across the road. Now I
• 56:59
  was thinking about this, and it's entirely possible that whatever ran through the first
• 57:04
  time this thing was what was chasing it. Oh yeah, I don't know
• 57:09
  that to be one of one hundred percent fact. But and the reason why
• 57:14
  I say that is because I never saw it come from the from the right
• 57:17
  hand side field across the road, so I didn't see it in toe behind
• 57:23
  this thing. I only saw it when it was at the at the left
• 57:27
  hand side of the road. So it was standing there and the dogs had
• 57:32
  come up behind me and I heard them and I was like, you know,
• 57:37
  just making sure that it was them. And when I turned back,
• 57:38
  it was standing dead in the middle of the road looking at me. This
• 57:44
  thing was huge. I mean, if I I mean I've seen polar bears
• 57:46
  in zoos. This thing had to have been as big as a polar bear.
• 57:52
  And it was down on all fours and it was kind of like straight
• 57:58
  up, you know, ears off the back of its head and like it
• 58:02
  was just in its head was facing towards me, and I can see its
• 58:06
  ears, and I had a flashlight with me, and I was standing there
• 58:12
  looking at it I was like, I want to get a good look at
• 58:13
  this thing, so I turned the flashlight on. And I don't when I
• 58:20
  say what I'm fixing to say, people are not gonna believe it. That's
• 58:22
  fine, I'm not I'm not asking anybody to believe anything I'm telling them.
• 58:28
  I'm just relating what happened to me when I hit this thing with the light.
• 58:35
  I had a fourcel D maglight and I hit it with a maglight and
• 58:38
  when I did, there was nothing there. But as soon as I hit
• 58:45
  it with the light, the dogs that were standing there, you know,
• 58:49
  next to me, you know, kind of doing their own thing, all
• 58:52
  of a sudden they became interested in that area down the road which this thing
• 58:58
  was about. I would say from where I was standing it was maybe fifty
• 59:01
  yards. The dogs took off running down there. They kind of weren't really
• 59:08
  barking, but they were kind of hu you know, huffing and doing everything.
• 59:14
  They ran down, ran down at exactly where the thing was standing,
• 59:16
  and were sniffing around, so I know there was something there. And then
• 59:22
  they turned around and they came back, so I was like, I wasn't
• 59:24
  seeing things. There was actually something there. In order for the dogs to
• 59:29
  become interested in that spot. Well, I went back after that. I
• 59:36
  went back to my apartment that I was living in, and as I was
• 59:40
  heading up to the front door, I happened to glance up and I could
• 59:45
  see an opening in the trees into the sky above the apartment, and there
• 59:53
  was a military aircraft. I would say it was either a Sea one thirty
• 1:00:02
  or C five, you know it was. It was big enough that I
• 1:00:07
  and low enough that I could see it, but it was gliding and it
• 1:00:12
  glided across that opening, no sound, no nothing. Now, most of
• 1:00:19
  the time, if an aircraft, and and a lot of people don't know
• 1:00:27
  this, but if an aircraft is doing that over a location, generally there's
• 1:00:34
  a reason for it. They're not going to glide like that over a location
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  just to be gliding over it. Usually if if if they're in a position
• 1:00:45
  where they have to have to glide in, now, they may do it
• 1:00:49
  to glide in and land, but over a location that's not anywhere near a
• 1:00:54
  landing strip. They're they're doing that for a reason. So I can't say,
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  beyond a shadow of doubt or one that there was a connection there with
• 1:01:06
  this creature and this military aircraft, But it's kind of coincidental to me that
• 1:01:12
  they were in both in the same vicinity of each other. And you have
• 1:01:16
  these people and you know they're out there looking around and they're shooting guns.
• 1:01:22
  And what I think the scenario was is, and I often wondered this because
• 1:01:28
  of the level of activity that I was having in that area. On the
• 1:01:31
  property that was where this thing was headed, there was there was an old,
• 1:01:38
  abandoned barn that nobody used, and it was grown up. The there
• 1:01:45
  was, you know, lots of bushes and trees and stuff grown up around
• 1:01:49
  it, and you couldn't unless you knew it was there where you could see
• 1:01:52
  the one spot on the back side of it where you could see the deciding
• 1:01:57
  you wouldn't even know there was a barn there, that's how grown up and
• 1:02:00
  up it was. So I'm thinking that at some point that may have been
• 1:02:07
  a hangout spot for the bigfoot creatures that were living in that particular area,
• 1:02:14
  and it's entirely possible that this thing was chasing after one of them and it
• 1:02:22
  was heading to that barn for it perceived safety. Now, I didn't hear
• 1:02:27
  anything after that that night, but I'm trying to remember. There was one
• 1:02:40
  night after that, and it was after the activity stopped. There was one
• 1:02:46
  night I was in my apartment and I kept hearing the sound. And the
• 1:02:52
  only thing I can the only thing I can relate it to, is kind
• 1:02:58
  of like a kind of like a you've heard pterodactyls on the movies, right,
• 1:03:05
  Yes, of course, that's kind of what it sounded like to me.
• 1:03:08
  And it just kept going and going and going. It was me name
• 1:03:12
  right, right, right right, And I'm like, what in the world
• 1:03:17
  is that? So I went outside and I was looking around and it stopped.
• 1:03:23
  I was like, well, it's kind of a pointless venture to be
• 1:03:27
  out here. So I went back in and I never heard it again.
• 1:03:30
  But it's just it is weird that there was so much activity going on in
• 1:03:36
  that one location. And I don't think that. I think a couple of
• 1:03:39
  things that I do think or believe is my contact with that individual was directly
• 1:03:45
  related to those people being in that area. One. Two, I think
• 1:03:51
  they were there to either capture, cute, exterminate, or do whatever they
• 1:04:02
  were going to do to the creatures that were living in that area. Sorry,
• 1:04:09
  I won't say the K word. Yeah, you know, that's that's
• 1:04:16
  interesting. I mean, okay, so I had to ask you that question
• 1:04:20
  earlier about you potentially giving your address to that person who took your report.
• 1:04:25
  Because of course, with me being in the in the Bigfoot field research arena
• 1:04:30
  myself and uh, and being you know, in the mix and in the
• 1:04:34
  know with a lot of this stuff, there's certain people who refuse to give
• 1:04:40
  reports to people in certain Bigfoot organizations because they're afraid that then they're going to
• 1:04:45
  tell, you know, government officials or somebody about it. Because a lot
• 1:04:49
  sometimes when people have given reports, the black helicopters have shown up over their
• 1:04:54
  property, you know, and uh and things, so you you're wondering,
• 1:04:57
  like, who is somebody's channeling they're in to higher ups. You know.
• 1:05:00
  I'm not saying it happens all the time, but I've heard stories of that
• 1:05:03
  happening before, which leads me to believe that these dogmen, these Bigfoot are
• 1:05:10
  potentially government assets. Either they were created or controlled or both potentially by our
• 1:05:17
  military or government or some sort of agency out there. And they're they're either
• 1:05:23
  and I've heard reports of them being chipped and collared and all that kind of
• 1:05:26
  stuff too. Mark, So it's like they're being tracked for the same things.
• 1:05:32
  I've heard the same things. But you know, the the interesting thing
• 1:05:38
  is you can hear a lot of things out there, but him, you
• 1:05:43
  know. I mean, it's like, yeah, how many people are actually
• 1:05:46
  coming forth with real, tangible, vible evidence that that's the case? I
• 1:05:53
  mean true, you know, I mean, you hear I heard a very
• 1:05:58
  fantastic story about a guy who videotaped to Bigfoot having a death match in the
• 1:06:05
  swamp. You know, I forget who it was put that story out.
• 1:06:12
  Incredible story, if true. Now, the guy that supposedly reported it was
• 1:06:15
  a wildlife photographer videographer, and he videotaped the whole death match, supposedly,
• 1:06:25
  and but the caveat to it was that at the end of the thing,
• 1:06:30
  when the one Bigfoot realized that he was there, he lost his camera in
• 1:06:38
  the water, supposedly destroying the film. And this, that and the other.
• 1:06:44
  I mean, if something like that were to happen, I mean,
• 1:06:47
  and don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's not true. But you
• 1:06:50
  know, that's one reason why me personally, I don't come out with a
• 1:06:56
  lot of stuff is because you know, it's it's to me, it's it's
• 1:07:04
  fruitless to talk about some things if you don't have something to back it up.
• 1:07:16
  Yeah, that's true, you know. And I and I like to
• 1:07:19
  tell people about with my research that I do. I don't always talk about
• 1:07:24
  all my research. And actually two of my teams were we are under NDA's
• 1:07:27
  and stuff because we're still researching these areas that we go to. Uh.
• 1:07:30
  And so you don't hear a ton of stories out of me about my own
• 1:07:32
  experiences. But I do have several I have a lot of I have a
• 1:07:35
  lot of stories I do tell. But you know, with the with the
• 1:07:41
  filled with the dog man stories, with the Bigfoot encounters, everything being more
• 1:07:45
  public now and it getting a lot of attention, Uh, it would be
• 1:07:49
  a little tempting for people to make up stories, you know, to get
• 1:07:54
  that fame and fortune too. So so you have to be very discerning when
• 1:07:58
  you're taking reports from people. When you are, you know, here hearing
• 1:08:02
  these stories. Just I usually go with my gut, and like you said,
• 1:08:05
  it is important to meet with people and get to know these people before
• 1:08:11
  you could jump to a conclusion as to whether their story is really or not,
• 1:08:15
  and to visit that location I mean we do on site scouting. We
• 1:08:18
  do on site you know, I've visited state parks where I've had a state
• 1:08:21
  park ranger here in Georgia call me and I immediately did a FaceTime interview with
• 1:08:29
  him over the phone over actually on Facebook. I believe this is a couple
• 1:08:32
  of years ago, because I wanted to see him face to face to determine
• 1:08:38
  first of all, if I should even go scout that place out with my
• 1:08:40
  team, because it's important to know if you're if somebody is trying to hoax
• 1:08:45
  you, or if they're just straight up making the story up, you know.
• 1:08:48
  And then and then once you actually go out there and get the report's
• 1:08:51
  firsthand from people, and you go and you do investigate that location. Then
• 1:08:56
  you do contact the coroner's office. If somebody pass away, you do you
• 1:09:00
  do your your footwork, you know, on all this it's so important,
• 1:09:02
  and that's what field researchers do. And I guess that's what sets the field
• 1:09:06
  researchers apart from just podcasters and stuff. And there's nothing I love podcasts.
• 1:09:11
  I'm a podcaster, okay, but but there is a there's a fine,
• 1:09:15
  there's a there's a little difference there with telling stories and doing some you know,
• 1:09:20
  the field research. Oh yeah, and there's like, like I was
• 1:09:25
  discussing with you earlier, there's nothing wrong with podcasters storytellers, you know,
• 1:09:30
  in historically their role in society and societies has been very important, you know.
• 1:09:42
  I mean that's just the nature of it. Yeah, you know,
• 1:09:46
  historically. So you know, please don't take anything I'm saying as being a
• 1:09:55
  jab against a podcast or a storyteller. Me neither. I am a podcaster,
• 1:10:00
  dang it. I'm both. I'm the best of both worlds here,
• 1:10:04
  okay. And uh and and and that's what And you love you love getting
• 1:10:10
  out in nature, and you love going out and exploring and uh and and
• 1:10:13
  and covering and raveling the mysteries of the world. And will we ever unravel
• 1:10:16
  at all? Absolutely not. But we're having fun doing it, I know.
• 1:10:19
  I am. I don't know about you, I am. Oh yeah,
• 1:10:26
  yeah, wow, that's something. Those are amazing encounters. Oh my
• 1:10:30
  gosh. I mean, uh, I've heard stories before about sasquatch and dog
• 1:10:35
  men looking like they have war paint on their faces. I mean, just
• 1:10:39
  cryptids in general. I wonder, I wonder what what that's about, Like,
• 1:10:44
  what is it. Do you think that I did ask you if you
• 1:10:46
  thought that they were government lab made or natural, and there are there are
• 1:10:51
  distinctions, of course, But but I would imagine that they do team up
• 1:10:57
  like a tribe or a or a pack, you know, if they're dog
• 1:11:00
  men, because there's safety in numbers, I would assume, and maybe they
• 1:11:05
  maybe they do have a little tribe, you know, and and they feel
• 1:11:09
  like they could be at war. I mean, that's just it's just a
• 1:11:13
  thought. Well, my opinion on the whole face paint thing that I encountered
• 1:11:18
  was I think it was more of a camouflage in a sense than anything,
• 1:11:23
  because you know, initially when I spotted it, I thought it was a
• 1:11:28
  deer. And what better camouflage could you ask for If you're if you're some
• 1:11:35
  kind of inhumanoid predator whatever, and you're out there trying to either sneak up
• 1:11:45
  on deer or sneak up on people, you're not going to draw very much
• 1:11:48
  attention to yourself if you're camouflage as a deer or perceived as a deer.
• 1:11:58
  Wow, and cloaking, Okay, the cloaking ability, that's that's really interesting.
• 1:12:03
  That's that's the best camouflage. That's that's the best camouflage actually, you
• 1:12:09
  know. Oh yeah, well, you know from for many years I researched
• 1:12:16
  by myself in the LBO. I know a lot of people are gonna say,
• 1:12:20
  oh, well, that's crazy, why would you do such a thing.
• 1:12:24
  It's dangerous, You're gonna die? The dog man. Well, you
• 1:12:30
  know, early on, I didn't. I didn't really I didn't really know
• 1:12:36
  the things that I know now, and I hadn't experienced what I've experienced.
• 1:12:41
  But you know, if if you revert back to the interview that I did
• 1:12:47
  with Barton Unteley on his channel which is in Humanoids with Barton and Nuntley,
• 1:12:55
  I talk about a encounter that I had, or an experience that I had
• 1:13:00
  had one day while I was driving down the road and I had something fully
• 1:13:02
  cloaked jump across the road way into the treeline. And I'm talking about like
• 1:13:11
  a ninety foot leap. So to break that down, you know, I
• 1:13:19
  don't want to be out there by myself and get attacked by something like that.
• 1:13:24
  I mean, it would be on you and you wouldn't even know it.
• 1:13:27
  You know, You're you're out there walking down a trail and it takes
• 1:13:30
  a ninety foot leap onto you, you know, I mean, you know,
• 1:13:32
  And I'm not saying what it was or wasn't or whatever. All I'm
• 1:13:35
  saying is what it looked like to me, and it just the craziest,
• 1:13:43
  the craziest thing. So that's one reason why I've gotten out of the habit
• 1:13:48
  of one researching by myself, and I try not to be over there at
• 1:13:55
  night. I have, you know, gone over there at night, but
• 1:14:01
  it's just to me, the danger factor or risk factor involved in it is
• 1:14:08
  like multiplied when you're dealing with things that how they do it, I don't
• 1:14:13
  know, but if they're cloaked or semi invisible to the point that you can't
• 1:14:18
  see them, you're definitely not going to see them at night. You may
• 1:14:23
  be able to pick them up on a thermal or night vision, but you
• 1:14:28
  know, most people don't talk about the realities of thermal and night vision,
• 1:14:32
  but the reality of it is your perception is off the second that you put
• 1:14:38
  one of those devices on your head, you know, and it all goes
• 1:14:44
  back to the magnification level, even at one by magnification on a just a
• 1:14:48
  standard night vision goggle or night vision device, your death perception is gone from
• 1:14:56
  the get go, and you know, everything is magnified, so you're even
• 1:15:03
  though you can see, you're still going to run into stuff because you can't
• 1:15:08
  perceive it as you normally would. So and you're blind when you take your
• 1:15:12
  eye off of it for the most part. So I like to do maybe
• 1:15:15
  a monocle, like a one of you know, just one eye looking through
• 1:15:18
  the night vision or the thermal, the flear because you need to have one
• 1:15:23
  eye that's going to be more adjusted in case you got to get out of
• 1:15:27
  there or something happens, you know. Oh yeah, for safety purposes.
• 1:15:30
  Yeah, that's correct. Yeah, Oh my gosh, yeah. Okay,
• 1:15:35
  Well how many people? How many people go missing each year out of the
• 1:15:40
  LBL. Do you have a number and is it high or do you think
• 1:15:44
  we'd even know? Well, that's a that's a very interesting question. And
• 1:16:00
  the reason why I say in use the word interesting is because of the fact
• 1:16:03
  that you have some individuals that want to say it's X number or Y number
• 1:16:11
  or whatever, or that historically there's been you know, just pulling a number
• 1:16:17
  out of the sky. You know, fifty fifty or sixty people that have
• 1:16:20
  disappeared have been killed over there. You know, the reality of it is,
• 1:16:25
  I mean, you know, I'm going to revert back to the to
• 1:16:30
  the grandiose claims require grandiose evidence. So you know, the people that are
• 1:16:36
  making these claims, you know, I mean, and don't get me wrong,
• 1:16:42
  I get it, you know, because there is an event that took
• 1:16:45
  place over there that I'm aware of, where a young man was killed and
• 1:16:53
  I did it. I said the word I'm trying not to use it.
• 1:16:57
  I'm alive. Yeah, so he came to a very unfortunate end. And
• 1:17:04
  the originally, the originally reported incident was not anything like what really happened,
• 1:17:15
  and that was that was covered up really quick, whoa really quick, like
• 1:17:21
  same day quick, within hours of it happening quick. So yeah, there
• 1:17:31
  there are events like that that take place. And the thing about it is,
• 1:17:39
  we don't know, you know, I mean, do people have hunting
• 1:17:43
  accidents, boating accidents, swimming accidents, you know, do people drown when
• 1:17:47
  they're swimming? Yes, But the when those type of events are being reported,
• 1:17:58
  you know, is there another factor involved in it? We won't.
• 1:18:01
  We won't know, so it's really hard to say what the actual number is.
• 1:18:12
  So that's going to be without actually putting a number on it. And
• 1:18:15
  that's going to be my answer. Okay, it's so hard to put a
• 1:18:21
  number on it, it is. Okay, Well I didn't expect you to
• 1:18:25
  have an exact number, Okay, but I just thought my brain's working overtime
• 1:18:30
  right now, because as you're saying that, what took me out to that
• 1:18:34
  state park eventually where that state park ranger had contacted me and begged me to
• 1:18:40
  bring my team out there because they had gotten nine sasquatch sightings and reports over
• 1:18:45
  one month, okay, in his park, And we ended up going out
• 1:18:49
  there, but it took a lot for me to go out there because he
• 1:18:53
  finally told me, he said, well, we've we've had a sasquatch related
• 1:18:56
  death at the park, is what he told me. So that got my
• 1:19:00
  attention finally, okay, And and I geared up and took three of my
• 1:19:05
  teammates out there, and we spent the weekend out there, and he took
• 1:19:10
  us on a tour. We investigated, and one of my teammates actually knows
• 1:19:15
  the corner out there, and we looked into this death and now I'm thinking,
• 1:19:20
  well, you know, the corner said no, they didn't die in
• 1:19:24
  the way that you were told. But now I question was there a cover
• 1:19:29
  up? Okay? And uh, And I'm not going to get into details
• 1:19:31
  of that. That's for another time and it's not even something I should probably
• 1:19:34
  be talking about. But it did. But but that did happen, and
• 1:19:39
  it made me question, well, is anything this guy told me true?
• 1:19:43
  Okay? Now because of what the officials told us. Okay, So but
• 1:19:49
  if I've learned anything, Mark, I know the officials don't always tell us
• 1:19:53
  the full truth. Yeah, that's what I was fixing to say. You
• 1:19:56
  know, I've had my my dealings with a few and they didn't get they
• 1:20:02
  didn't get to be officials by being being official. That's right, man,
• 1:20:09
  And tell me about it. That's true, So you know, And and
• 1:20:13
  then on top of that, you know, in some in some instances,
• 1:20:18
  I'm pretty sure that they're they're required to keep certain things under wraps and hush
• 1:20:26
  hush. Why that is, I don't know. But you know, I
• 1:20:30
  had a case that I was working on back in two thousand and seven where
• 1:20:42
  a corner official negated information that I was receiving from other people about an incident
• 1:21:00
  to the point that it just was outlandish So whether or not he was required
• 1:21:10
  to or felt obligated in some way to skew that information, I don't know,
• 1:21:15
  but it was definitely not the same information that I was receiving. Interesting,
• 1:21:21
  coroners are elected officials. I'm just saying. I'm just kidding. I
• 1:21:25
  used to work in politics. Listen, I know how this works. I
• 1:21:28
  know how politics were work, especially down here in the South, Okay,
• 1:21:31
  with a good old boy networks and stuff. So it's just something to keep
• 1:21:34
  in mind when you're doing this research. Okay, it's just something to keep
• 1:21:38
  in mind and go with your gut, right, go with your gut,
• 1:21:42
  Go do the investigations, boots on the ground. If you get a report
• 1:21:46
  somebody wants you to come out and investigate, go if you're on a team,
• 1:21:49
  go investigate it and get the information from every possible source, even the
• 1:21:55
  coroner's office. But now, I mean talking to you. You know,
• 1:21:58
  we took that as being you know, part of most most of what we
• 1:22:01
  investigated could have been very much real. It really happened. We didn't find
• 1:22:05
  any sign of big foot out there, Okay, we really didn't. We
• 1:22:09
  didn't find a whole lot of sign. However, you know, people's encounters
• 1:22:13
  are their encounters, and who are we to say? I mean, it
• 1:22:15
  even went from like shape shifting bigfoots, like bigfoot, some people seeing a
• 1:22:19
  big foot, a seven to nine foot tall bigfoot, and the people behind
• 1:22:23
  them saw a seven inch tall squirrel. You know, just some of the
• 1:22:28
  stuff that's unexplainable. It is. Yeah, I've experienced the same thing.
• 1:22:35
  You have a group of people and like four or five out of the group
• 1:22:40
  see a bigfoot and the rest of the group see something totally different exactly.
• 1:22:46
  I mean, how does that work? It's weird. It is weird.
• 1:22:53
  It's it's almost like they're able to project different things into what we're into our
• 1:22:58
  minds or what we're seeing, or I don't know. It's the same thing
• 1:23:00
  with ets and all these other cryptids, bigfoots, probably dog Man two,
• 1:23:05
  but definitely the big foot phenomenon. And you've you've been out doing research on
• 1:23:11
  bigfoot, Like you said, you were out there looking for bigfoot footprints when
• 1:23:14
  you came upon a dog man. So you know, we we don't go
• 1:23:19
  out looking for dog men. I'm part of a big foot field research.
• 1:23:23
  I'm part of three different teams, but we've never gone out there's just looking
• 1:23:26
  for dog men. But dog men are in the vicinity, and we get
• 1:23:28
  reports to where the dogmen are in our our areas that we go and do
• 1:23:33
  research at. I personally have never happened upon a dog man, but I've
• 1:23:40
  never I've never called one in, I've never tried. But if it's there,
• 1:23:45
  I wouldn't mind seeing it. But I am careful what I wish for.
• 1:23:47
  Mark, I'm careful what I wish for. Oh yeah, there's nothing
• 1:23:50
  wrong with a little bit of a little bit of caution, yes, but
• 1:23:57
  yeah, it's it's definitely definitely not something I was looking for. But you
• 1:24:05
  know, it's it's it's kind of like that old saying. You know,
• 1:24:08
  when you peer into the into the mysterious, the mysterious will peer back into
• 1:24:13
  you, you know. I mean that's just the reality of it. It's
• 1:24:20
  it definitely leaves a lot for you for a person to think about. It
• 1:24:28
  does. It does. And I want to thank you so much for sharing
• 1:24:30
  your experiences with me today with my audience. What a perfect Halloween night,
• 1:24:35
  I tell you what, this has been amazing. Yeah. What what do
• 1:24:40
  you have planned for your future? And do you first of all, do
• 1:24:43
  you have any advice too, for anyone who encounters a dog man or even
• 1:24:48
  wants to encounter something like that. Well, as I as I mentioned earlier,
• 1:24:56
  just the best advice I can give is be careful what you wish for
• 1:25:00
  because of the simple fact that one it's never gonna happen the way that you
• 1:25:05
  think it's going to. The outcome is probably not going to be what you're
• 1:25:11
  anticipating. And you know, whatever you do, do not try to exchange
• 1:25:29
  things with these entities as far as gifting that kind of thing, because and
• 1:25:40
  this is just my opinion. You know, there there are people out there
• 1:25:43
  that have have have done this and done it for years and had interactions with
• 1:25:49
  them. But you know, the question always enters my mind, what happens
• 1:25:57
  when that that that line of exchange stuff, right, you know, And
• 1:26:05
  and I'm sure everybody's heard the stories where exchanges exchange stops have ended in a
• 1:26:13
  bad way. And I'm not saying that everyone would end that way. But
• 1:26:21
  if you if you don't indulge, then there's nothing to worry about, right,
• 1:26:26
  right, Yeah, you don't want to make anything mad, Okay,
• 1:26:30
  especially if you're in a national or state park. You don't really want to
• 1:26:34
  go put food out and stuff, especially near the campground areas, because once
• 1:26:39
  you leave that food out there and you leave, there's going to be other
• 1:26:42
  families that come with their kids out there to play that next week or sometime,
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  and they're going to be those critters out there are going to be expecting
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  some food. Most likely, yeah, they don't get it. There could
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  be problems. Yeah. You know. One of the one of the more
• 1:26:58
  interesting events that have happened on one of my research trips with some friends,
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  we had one try to snag a steak off of a grill one night,
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  and when he came through, he uh, the grill was open, and
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  he saw that it was there was nothing on the grill, and just kind
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  of went on his way. Well what happened if he was like at the
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  brink of starvation, you know, I mean, he could have snagged one
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  of us. Yeah, so could have steak tastes better though probably I would
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  assume, Oh yeah, that's why you a lot of garlic try to keep
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  things away. Well vampires at least, I don't know. Yeah, Oh
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  my gosh. Well okay, so tell me about what you got going on.
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  Are you going to be doing some more research out into LBL and tell
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  me about your You've got a YouTube channel too, are you gonna be posting
• 1:28:03
  on your YouTube channel some of your adventures? So as far as what the
• 1:28:08
  future holds, I am going to be doing some more new content for uh
• 1:28:15
  my YouTube channel, which is uh Cryptonville on YouTube. Also that same content
• 1:28:25
  and other content content of friends and family, if you will, is also
• 1:28:31
  reflected on my website, which is Cryptiville dot com. And uh, as
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  far as research goes, I am going to be doing some some new things
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  and some new areas. And some of those areas include the the l b
• 1:28:54
  L and other areas in the vicinity. Uh. You know, one thing
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  that I that i've uh I wanted to do was expand into different areas that
• 1:29:09
  I've not researched in before, like say the man A Cave area. I
• 1:29:15
  know a lot of people in that area, and I think it would be
• 1:29:26
  kind of interesting to research some of those cave areas. I'm not enthused about,
• 1:29:33
  you know, spending a long time in a cave, but I always
• 1:29:41
  tell you, I always always people always tell people, you know, haven't
• 1:29:46
  you seen that movie The Descent or Descent or whatever it's called. Where you
• 1:29:50
  got the the three or four young ladies that go down into the cave.
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  Yeah, not my style. It's crazy, but yeah, that's uh,
• 1:30:04
  that's kind of what I'm looking at in the in the near future. Generally,
• 1:30:11
  I don't broadcast what I'm doing when I'm doing it, that kind of
• 1:30:19
  thing until after it happens. So that's that's always been, it's always been,
• 1:30:28
  It's always been my mode of operating. And along with that, you
• 1:30:32
  know, there are some locations where I've had experiences before that I'm going to
• 1:30:39
  that I want to revisit and film the locations and relate those events as they
• 1:30:45
  happen. Stuff that nobody's ever heard of, nobody knows. And for example,
• 1:30:53
  one of the one of the events is going to be released in Ah.
• 1:30:58
  I believe Barton Unley Saiity is going to be writing writing another mysterious Kentucky
• 1:31:02
  book and one of one of those events is going to be featured in in
• 1:31:09
  his new book. So you'll have to wait until it comes out to hear
• 1:31:15
  that or read that story. Very interesting event that happened to myself and another
• 1:31:21
  guy, Uh, well, I say another guy, but he was totally
• 1:31:27
  unaware of what was what was going on. But uh, definitely a creepy
• 1:31:32
  interesting story. So but yeah, I would like to go back and film
• 1:31:41
  that area if possible, if I could get on that particular military installation,
• 1:31:46
  and what's what's up with the military installations encryptids. There's a connection. I
• 1:31:54
  think I've looked into it before. What do you think about that? I
• 1:31:58
  would have to say that there is a connection. You have to check out
• 1:32:03
  that story and give us some suspense. I get it. What the connection
• 1:32:10
  possibly could be if nothing else, yeah, if nothing else, they definitely
• 1:32:16
  know that these things are around at the minimum. Yeah, I agree,
• 1:32:23
  I think so too. Absolutely. Well, oh my goodness. Well,
• 1:32:27
  hey Mark, if you're ever down in Georgia, or if you want to
• 1:32:30
  make a trip down here to do some big footing and even dog mannon,
• 1:32:33
  I guess you could call it come to Georgia. I'll take you out with
• 1:32:36
  my team anytime. I'd love to host you down here sometime. And uh,
• 1:32:42
  unless you experience on Georgia bigfoot, well, I appreciate it, fortunately,
• 1:32:46
  and thank you for the invite. Real quick though, I would like
• 1:32:51
  to if if you would allow me to to uh give a short plug or
• 1:33:00
  some of the some of the friends that that I have in the community.
• 1:33:06
  As as everyone probably knows, I am uh proud to be involved with the
• 1:33:14
  Brotherhood of the Wolf, which is a loose net group that was formed by
• 1:33:17
  Barton and Lee. I was kind of grandfathered in. I was in the
• 1:33:24
  Brotherhood before the Brotherhood existed kind of thing. And UH just wanted to mention
• 1:33:30
  uh in Humanoids with Barton Untley also UH Blondes of Booze. They have a
• 1:33:42
  podcast also, I just want to mention uh the Paranormal Roundtable with Josh Turner.
• 1:33:48
  UH. Check out their their content. They've They've got some great information,
• 1:33:55
  great shows. Check it out. Also helped being I would say,
• 1:34:03
  I'm trying to I'm trying to remember everybody can check out. I know Darryl
• 1:34:10
  Denton has got a group on Facebook. UH slips in my mind because I
• 1:34:15
  don't have that computer pulled up at the moment. What the name of the
• 1:34:18
  group is. UH encourage everybody to check that out. And UH, I
• 1:34:25
  just basically UH, anybody that's involved uh with the Brotherhood of the Wolf.
• 1:34:34
  It's definitely definitely worth checking out. And once again, Jessica just want to
• 1:34:41
  thank you for allow me to come on your show and uh sharing some of
• 1:34:48
  the stories and information that I've encountered in my time. Well, thank you
• 1:34:55
  for being here. This has been amazing. Like I said, it's been
• 1:34:58
  amazing Halloween. And yeah, Cryptidville, I mean we all know you in
• 1:35:04
  my chat and on the shows is Cryptidville. Okay, So it's nice to
• 1:35:09
  put a face with the name. I know that all of my all of
• 1:35:13
  my followers, everybody that watches the shows is glad to have you here as
• 1:35:16
  well as me. Big time. You'll come back and hang out with me
• 1:35:18
  some more, okay, And yeah, and absolutely well, I wanted to
• 1:35:25
  thank you for being here. I also want to thank Vic Kundiff Okay.
• 1:35:29
  With dog Man Encounters, he was nice enough and kind enough to put me
• 1:35:33
  and include me and you too, okay, Mark, With the five nights
• 1:35:38
  of dog Man Encounters leading up to Halloween, this is the final night,
• 1:35:42
  y'all. And so this is one of the this is a finale. Actually,
• 1:35:45
  we have David Divine broadcasted is doing a show right now as well.
• 1:35:50
  He's going to be the last of the shows for the five nights of dog
• 1:35:54
  Man Encounters tonight. So you guys go over there and hang out with him
• 1:35:58
  next after you after we close a showdown tonight. So yeah, all right,
• 1:36:01
  well this has been amazing. I hope you guys will come back and
• 1:36:04
  hang out with me tomorrow. I have a glitch in the matrix tomorrow at
• 1:36:08
  one pm Eastern here at the crypton Huntress on YouTube. All right, Mark,
• 1:36:14
  well, this has been awesome, and you guys go. Please subscribe
• 1:36:16
  to Cryptoville over on YouTube and check out his website. Okay, all right,
• 1:36:21
  Mark, well listen, have a wonderful Halloween night. You stay safe
• 1:36:25
  out there and I will see you guys back here. Just watch out for
• 1:36:30
  y'all. Lock your doors. Okay, stay sy all right, see you
• 1:36:34
  Mark. Bye, y'all, hie bye bye. To be in movies,
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  SMS, press Mas