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LYN BUCHANAN - REMOTE VIEWING | PSYCHIC PORTALS | TIME TRAVEL · Ryder Lee

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  Speaker 1: in the United States Army and the founding member of
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  Speaker 1: the International Remote Viewing Association. He served as a trainer
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  Speaker 1: in the United States Army Stargate Remote Viewing Unit from
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four to nineteen ninety two and who The
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  Speaker 1: movie The Men Who Starret Goats is based on limb
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  Speaker 1: Bu Cannon. Welcome back to the show, my friend. How
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  Speaker 1: are you doing.
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  Speaker 4: Oh doing fine? Thank you very much. I hope you
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  Speaker 4: had a good year, a good year last year and
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  Speaker 4: a happy new year this year.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's great to see you. Yeah, yeah, thanks. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're the first show and you're the first show of
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 4: That's an honor. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for coming back on. Really appreciate it forst
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  Speaker 1: show twenty twenty five. And it's been a while since
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  Speaker 1: you've been on, Lynn, I believe the last time was
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  Speaker 1: the Stargate round table that we did with Angela Ford
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  Speaker 1: and Dell Graph. You remember that, Yeah, yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So for the audience, Lynn, can you give a little
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  Speaker 1: background on yourself and how you got to be a
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  Speaker 1: remove viewer for the DIA Army Intelligence Remove Vieing Stargate
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  Speaker 1: program before we get into the other stuff, just to
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  Speaker 1: give the audience a little refresher.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was stationed in Alguburg, Germany, and an incident
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  Speaker 4: happened there. It is still classified, but it attracted the
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  Speaker 4: attention of general Stubblebind head of the Intelligence and Security Command.
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  Speaker 4: He took me over to He brought me away from Augsburg, Germany,
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  Speaker 4: over to the States and put me in the remote
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  Speaker 4: viewing unit, which had already been going for about ten years.
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  Speaker 4: They trained me in the controlled remote viewing and I
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  Speaker 4: stayed there the rest of my military time and actually
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  Speaker 4: became the trainer of the unit and you know, training
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  Speaker 4: new incoming people. After retiring from the service, I worked
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  Speaker 4: for the Defense Intelligence Agency until the remote viewing was declassified,
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  Speaker 4: and then I started my company. Now, as soon as
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  Speaker 4: it became declassified, I started, and people found out about it.
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  Speaker 4: I started getting just hundreds of requests for training, and
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  Speaker 4: so I started my own company, Problems Solutions and Innovations
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  Speaker 4: and PSI, and I've been training and working operations in
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  Speaker 4: remote viewing ever since.
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  Speaker 1: Were you ever contracted by the government or anybody, I'll say,
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  Speaker 1: the DEA or the Army Intelligence or the CIA after
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  Speaker 1: you had retired to do any kind of remote viewing
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  Speaker 1: or psychic work.
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  Speaker 4: I can't really talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: Who was the first, who was the first country to
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  Speaker 1: start a remote viewing program? Because there's you know, from
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people, it's you know, we started it
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  Speaker 1: because the Soviets were doing it. And then some people
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  Speaker 1: say that China started it first.
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  Speaker 4: China had been working on this effort for a long
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  Speaker 4: long time, the lineage of controlled remote viewing UH. First
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  Speaker 4: of all, Adolf Hitler UH started a unit that he
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  Speaker 4: called doctor Grenbaum UH, doctor green Tree. Green tree being
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  Speaker 4: the symbol of the Hebrew mysticism. He was definitely in
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  Speaker 4: the Hebrew mysticism.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: This hatred of Jews and all that, but he was
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  Speaker 4: definitely into Hebrew mysticism. The Cabbala, and that's the central
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  Speaker 4: image of the Kabbala. When he lost the war, England, France,
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  Speaker 4: and the US took their part of the spoils. Russia
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  Speaker 4: took its part of the spoils as well. But these
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  Speaker 4: three were not interested in all of that stuff, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Russia was, and so Russia took it and developed it.
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  Speaker 4: And around the mid nineteen sixties we started losing our
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  Speaker 4: intelligence information like crazy and couldn't find out how. And
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  Speaker 4: finally a Russian colonel tried to defect and brought with
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  Speaker 4: him the documentation which showed what the Russians were doing.
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  Speaker 4: And so they know, what do we know?
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  Speaker 1: What? Can you talk about what they exactly. Do you
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  Speaker 1: know what they were doing and what they were removing
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  Speaker 1: inside of the United States, or if they were looking
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  Speaker 1: at our installations, or like, what were they doing with
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  Speaker 1: their psychics in Russia.
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  Speaker 4: They'll call it was Colonel Pankowski, and from the Pinkowski
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  Speaker 4: papers that he brought, they had a few, they had
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  Speaker 4: a few documented things. I haven't seen the Pankowski papers themselves,
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  Speaker 4: but yeah, they were getting our classified information, our armament information,
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  Speaker 4: our plans and intentions for truit movements, all this other stuff.
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  Speaker 4: And so anyway, we had no way then to find
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  Speaker 4: out what they were doing. So they went out to
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  Speaker 4: Stanford Research Institute and hired Russell Tard and help put
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  Speaker 4: off to laser physicists who had just written a paper
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  Speaker 4: on how the mind of the laser physicist will affect
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  Speaker 4: the laser beam during experiments, and that was the closest
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  Speaker 4: thing they had to middle things, and so they gave
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  Speaker 4: them the contract and they developed the remote viewing effort
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  Speaker 4: by hiring a man named Ingo Swan, and Ingo Swan
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  Speaker 4: developed the technique, very very highly developed technique for accessing
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  Speaker 4: what's in your subconscious mind without polluting it with conscious logic.
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  Speaker 4: And all this other stuff. He developed this methodology, taught
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  Speaker 4: it to the military, and we formed a remote viewing unit,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, they just spy right back at.
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  Speaker 1: Him, had him with the old double double. Now there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of contingency of who actually coined the term
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  Speaker 1: remote viewing. Some people say Russell targ was the one
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  Speaker 1: that coined it from going to China, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: because China was apparently doing studies on children and he
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  Speaker 1: coined it from those kids. And then other people say
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  Speaker 1: the Ingo Swan was the one that created remote viewing.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have any comment on the term? Remove you
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  Speaker 1: and do you have any comment on that?
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  Speaker 4: I no, he's talking to Ego. I asked him about that,
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  Speaker 4: and he he said to me that a man who
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  Speaker 4: was working with him and some of the studies, and
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  Speaker 4: I cannot remember the man's name, Oh, called it that
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  Speaker 4: and they took it up.
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  Speaker 1: So it was more Ingo Swan than Russell Turk.
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  Speaker 4: From what Ingo said, it was the guy that worked
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  Speaker 4: with him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Now you mentioned World War two and Nazi Germany and
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  Speaker 1: then doing these types of experiments. Was these remote viewing?
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  Speaker 1: Because I'm not familiar with the remote viewing or psychic
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  Speaker 1: experiments unless it's connected to MK ultra within during World
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  Speaker 1: War Two? Were there any connections there with what they
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  Speaker 1: were possibly may have been doing with mind control and
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  Speaker 1: what else?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, And the Hitler's thing was mostly mind control, and
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  Speaker 4: when the Russians took it, they turned it into what
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  Speaker 4: was called Dunneley US, which means a remote hypnosis. And
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  Speaker 4: the spying effort for the Russians I think was just
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  Speaker 4: an offset, just something they found worked, and but their
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  Speaker 4: main effort was to uh, mind control, and and they
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  Speaker 4: actually got pretty good at it. And so anyway, when
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  Speaker 4: when it came in to the US, what we were
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  Speaker 4: concerned about was they were getting secrets, and they said, hey,
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  Speaker 4: if it works and we can get their secrets, let's
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  Speaker 4: do it, you know, and so and so the effort
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  Speaker 4: in the US has been intelligence collection, whereas in Russia
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  Speaker 4: it was actually minded can control, which called remote influencing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, I didn't realize that they Russia had went that
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  Speaker 1: far with it to do the remote Yeah. Do you
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  Speaker 1: think that they still do it to this day? Russia
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  Speaker 1: is still doing the remote influencer.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, they're still doing it. Yeah, if they have
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  Speaker 4: they have a weapon. They're not gonna let it go.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. So you think that they had actually had a
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  Speaker 1: remote influencing program programming how many people do you think
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  Speaker 1: that that.
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  Speaker 4: Would I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So it kind of transferred from Nazi Germany to Russia
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  Speaker 1: because Russia got a lot of the German officers after
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  Speaker 1: World War Two, so they took them to Russia. They
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  Speaker 1: started up this.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, this remotee and I'm sure.
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  Speaker 1: A bunch of other things as well along with, you know,
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  Speaker 1: mind control programs as well, and this kind of starts
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  Speaker 1: like the Cold War initiative, this Cold War between the
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  Speaker 1: United States and Russia during that time. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: that that had something to do with it? Them getting
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the German scientists and engineers and some
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  Speaker 1: of these people that were into you know, this mystical thing,
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  Speaker 1: and then US coming in and getting some of them,
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  Speaker 1: and then it's like kind of our Nazis versus.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they got those. Of course, we got the nuclear
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  Speaker 4: and rocket scie is, so did France, Russia, and England
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  Speaker 4: by the way, they got their share of them. But
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  Speaker 4: we immediately took the German nuclear and rocket sciet is.
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  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, after the Desert and put him to work.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's incredible.
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  Speaker 4: That's a really good history that Bernard ron Brown, which
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  Speaker 4: was the head one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the became ahead of NASA as well. I was
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  Speaker 1: listening to an interview yesterday actually of Skip at Water.
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  Speaker 1: I've tried to get Skip on my show a few
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  Speaker 1: times and he's always you know, refused to come on
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. He's busy. But yeah, he did this long
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  Speaker 1: interview on the Sean Ryan Show and he was talking
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  Speaker 1: about this project called that he termed Project eighty two hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of Project eighty two hundred?
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  Speaker 2: Now, this is coming.
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  Speaker 4: From one that have and before I got to the unit,
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  Speaker 4: and it's one that they they have been tended to
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  Speaker 4: focus on because it was so successful, but there were
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  Speaker 4: so many successes afterwards that I'm amazed they keep focusing
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  Speaker 4: on that one old historical thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently it's something to do with Skip out Water getting
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  Speaker 1: these coordinates from SRI with Pop Price remove viewing four
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  Speaker 1: alien bases on the Earth, and then he gave those
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  Speaker 1: same coordinates to a lot of the remote viewers with
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  Speaker 1: the Stargated I a Stargate remov viewing unit. Six others
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  Speaker 1: including Joe mcmonagall.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and after I got there, he was still I
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  Speaker 4: got the santasking you, so you.
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  Speaker 1: You were one of the six though also remove you
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  Speaker 1: the four bay.
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  Speaker 4: Not the historical one. What happened was after the historical
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  Speaker 4: one was finished, then as people came in, SKIP would
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  Speaker 4: give that same tasking to see if there were any
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  Speaker 4: changes to the situation, and and there were changes, and
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  Speaker 4: so we kept up with the changes, but those changes
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  Speaker 4: were not added to the historical project which was already finished.
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  Speaker 1: What did you see when you remove you these bit
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  Speaker 1: what was your impression? Because I think that's what it
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  Speaker 1: is is an.
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  Speaker 4: Important The one in Australia was visitible and they didn't
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  Speaker 4: mind and kept, you know, good information on that. The
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  Speaker 4: one in Alaska was fairly it was still there, but
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  Speaker 4: it was fairly closed down. It was just almost non
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  Speaker 4: operational when I was there. You know, years later after
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  Speaker 4: the major project, the one in Zimbabwe had turned into
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  Speaker 4: a basically a uh maintenance facility for you know, repair
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  Speaker 4: and all that repair and maintenance of the what we
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  Speaker 4: call the UFOs and all that. I never got a
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  Speaker 4: tasked with the one up in the Pyrenees, and so
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure about that one.
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  Speaker 1: Did these seem like, did you get the impression that
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  Speaker 1: there were human humans inside of these bases or something?
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  Speaker 4: There were there were humans being you used? Yeah, but
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  Speaker 4: they were they were alien. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: How long did you did you get the impression that
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  Speaker 1: they had been there for? Were they really old or
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  Speaker 1: were they something of recent times? Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, there are old establishments, old facilities. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What would you guess to me the like thousands of years?
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  Speaker 4: I have no idea. I didn't. I was it tasked
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  Speaker 4: to view that. Uh you know the age. I was
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  Speaker 4: just kept being tasked for the activities.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense now when you said that, like
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  Speaker 1: humans are being used by these aliens in what way?
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  Speaker 1: I like to do their projects to build these craft?
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  Speaker 1: Like what's going on there?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Uh, just personnel, maintenance, personnel, things like that. Other
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  Speaker 4: viewing I've done. Okay, Oh, you know they say the
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  Speaker 4: Ananachy and all that. When they left the earth, Oh,
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  Speaker 4: they were here and they had human slaves doing you know,
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  Speaker 4: digging for gold and all this other stuff. They took
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  Speaker 4: slaves with them, and so they've had humans all along. Well.
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  Speaker 4: When they come back here, of course, they're going to
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  Speaker 4: bring their worker bees with them, and many of those
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  Speaker 4: are humans.
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  Speaker 1: Hmm, that's really interesting. Gig brings up a really good question. Lynn.
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  Speaker 1: You said, aliens, where do you since they were from
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  Speaker 1: the since like that they were from here and they
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  Speaker 1: had always been here or I guess you just are
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  Speaker 1: kind of already as that where they go away and
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  Speaker 1: then they come back. But did you get a sense
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  Speaker 1: that they were.
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  Speaker 3: From not from Earth or from Earth?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, not from Earth. But the thing is, everybody over
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  Speaker 4: simplifies it. They say us and them, it's actually us
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  Speaker 4: and them and them and them and them and them
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  Speaker 4: and them and them. You know, from all over the place.
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  Speaker 4: There there are multiple forms and types of ets, and
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  Speaker 4: even of one type, there are multiple planetary systems. They
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  Speaker 4: come from star systems they come from I mean they have.
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  Speaker 4: They have spread across the universe and still spreading. So
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  Speaker 4: you know, you say the Grays from one area and
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  Speaker 4: they have one agenda for being here. The Grays from
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  Speaker 4: another star system will have another agenda for being here.
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  Speaker 4: And so you can't say us and them and what
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  Speaker 4: do they want? And all that. You have to just
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  Speaker 4: like going into Walmart pointing to anyone customer and saying
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  Speaker 4: what do they want? You know you can't. So it's
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  Speaker 4: it's not a simplistic type thing. It's very very complex.
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  Speaker 4: And there are those who are hostile to us, there
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  Speaker 4: are those who are favorable to us. And so people say,
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  Speaker 4: oh they are hostile, yeah, some of them are. Or
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  Speaker 4: they are friendly, yeah, some of them are. They want
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  Speaker 4: to help us, some of them. Do you know, you can't.
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  Speaker 4: You can't generalize the situation. If you do, you miss
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  Speaker 4: it completely.
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  Speaker 1: Florata brings up a really good point because also in
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  Speaker 1: this Skip out Water interview, he brings up the alien. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Skip isn't a remote viewer, right, He was just a
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  Speaker 1: trainer at the unit Crow.
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  Speaker 4: He wasn't actually a trainer. In fact, he was just
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  Speaker 4: the operations officer. But he did not remote you now,
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  Speaker 4: I think he teaches a form of mental access that
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  Speaker 4: they term remote viewing. This nowhere near the military thing
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  Speaker 4: at the Monroe Institute. But he does a lot of
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  Speaker 4: research now at the remote institute at the Monroe Institute.
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  Speaker 4: But no, he was not a trainer. He was not
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  Speaker 4: a remote viewer.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you just busted him because he said that he
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  Speaker 1: was a trainer. He said that he was a trainer
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  Speaker 1: in the.
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  Speaker 4: He was a monitor. In fact, almost everything we've ever
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  Speaker 4: learned about monitoring a remote viewer. We learned it from Skip.
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  Speaker 4: I mean he is the absolute best there is. Uh.
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  Speaker 4: Skip can sit at the table as a monitor, and
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  Speaker 4: I guarantee you the viewer will do a much better job,
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  Speaker 4: get much more information. It will be more accurate simply
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  Speaker 4: because he is there guiding the session. But I've never
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  Speaker 4: known him to actually teach.
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  Speaker 5: Oh.
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  Speaker 4: Now he you know, as he monitors, then of course
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  Speaker 4: you learn from him. So in that way, by default,
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  Speaker 4: I guess he could become teacher. Yeah, but as far
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  Speaker 4: as teaching the oh English one technique, teaching the methodology
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  Speaker 4: and all that, I don't think he ever did that.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, did I learn tons and tons from Skip?
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: You bet.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So he's not actually technically wrong. In a roundabout way,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: he sort of might have been teaching people, but not
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: the protocol or anything like that. But they just teaching
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: them by Actually.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: It wasn't Ango or Paul Smith or Mate. Yeah, and
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: we were basically the three teachers.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you, Engo and Paul Smith were the main
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: teachers of this unit.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: We were the assigned, uh those assigned to hold that position. Now, Uh,
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: the other guys who had learned from Ingo would come
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: back and they would say, Oh, this isn't what Ingo
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: taught me. This is you know. And so uh, everybody
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: was after Ingo lost his contract, everybody was teaching things
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: because Ingo kept changing things and uh, Ingo is developing
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: this all along, and so as the different people came
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: back from Ingo, oh they would say, well, here's what
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: Ingo taught me. We would try that. And so everybody
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: was not so much teaching each other as a teacher,
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: but helping each other learn.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Have you ever had anything strange with dreams? And you
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: know you're because this is kind of the whole discussion
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: between Skip out Water and Sean Ryan was he was like,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I never remote viewed. I'm not a remote viewer, but
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I am a dreamer and I don't really understand what
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: that means, but that sounds a little bit like also
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: with Dell Graph I've had Dell graph on several times,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: and he wrote an entire book all about dreams and everything.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: And Skip goes into this idea and this thought of
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: you know that there's no time, the time doesn't exist,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and that he had an experience within a dream one
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: time where he met an extraterrestrial and the extra he
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: asked the extraterrestrial, how they move across how they get
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: to our planet from their planet, and he showed him
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: like an a Rubik's cube or something, and then was like,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: imagine they're a Rubik's cube, and then each square of
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: their a Rubik's cube, there's another a Rubik's cube. And
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: the alien apparently said something like, you don't travel in
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: a straight line because if you just travel in a
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: straight line like you guys are thinking, you're never going
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: to get anywhere.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's the principles of it. Yeah, when I
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: had those experiences, I was asking about the technology of
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: it and principles. I didn't ask about that, ask about
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: the technology of it and got some information on that.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: But yeah, almost any deep, oh extremely well trained CRV
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: will wind up having encounters with ets.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what was your encounter? Can you add anything to
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: kind of and I'm paraphrasing what he was saying. I
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: don't have any notes or anything like that. I just
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: listened to it yesterday and I thought that it was
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: really interesting. Do you have anything to add to this?
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: How they travel from their planet to our planet and
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: how that works? Was it a dimensional thing?
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Is it like a portal?
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Or the one principle that the one told me was Oh,
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: I said, how do you move so fast? And he
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: was sort of confused by the question, and he said,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: we don't go fast, We just wind up in a
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: different place immediately. And the idea of actually traveling, you know,
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: going from one point to another.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Was not.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Part of his understanding. Of course, the thing he was
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: a pilot and so you know, I mean, a pilot
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: knows about their plane, and I'm sure he knew something
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: about that, but but that was his point. He was
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: sort of confused by the question, and he said, we
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: don't we don't go fast. We just are in a
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: different place immediately.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: That's almost exactly like what remote viewing is, right.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I guess you could say that, yeah, except
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: the remote viewing is not immediate. You have to sit
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: down and get you know, but it can take an
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: hour or two to do a really good session. But yeah,
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: I guess it would be.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like it sounds really similar to me if they're
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: not actually because we have this rudimentary idea that we
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: we just you know, strap you know, thrusters onto a rocket,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: then we can get anywhere that we want and we
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: just go super fast and we'll get there. You know,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: this is something different if it's true that it's more
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: of an instantaneous thing, and I feel like that, well,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: maybe possible. The remote viewing is like the baby stops
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: to try and figure that out. Could you imagine if
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: you were to remote place else?
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: You have to be more specific about it. I was
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: guessing him how he got from where they are to
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: planet of Earth. Okay, Now, as far as moving through
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: our atmosphere and our solar space and all that, there
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: are different methods by the different ms. Okay, the one
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: that I was more in tune with. Basically, they said,
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: you know, you have learned to explode things and move
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: things by exploding them, and now then you're engine your
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: jets and all that. You're just exploding something and making
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: it move. He said, we found out a long time
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: ago that magnetism can make it move. And he said,
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: just as you've developed the explosion, we've developed the magnet.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's stay on that train of thought with this idea,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: because if you were to do a remote, like you said,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: it takes a couple of hours to get a really
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: good session. But could you imagine if you were doing
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: a remote viewing session, and you were able to somehow
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: duplicate your physical body but in the remote viewing state,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: and then go around and control things, but really not
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: even be there.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: The control remote viewing developed by Angus One at its
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: most high stage, has a thing called by location or
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: perfect site integration.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: By location, that's what I was thinking of.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: There's a thing beyond by location, which is called perfect
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: site integration, and at that point you cannot tell that
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: you're not there. You can interact with the site. Now,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: there are times when you may be able to control
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: the site, but mainly the site totally affects you as
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: though you were there. You feel the wind on your face,
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: you feel the sound on your face, you hear the sounds,
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: you can read the signs on the wall. You can
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: you know, it's exactly as though you were there. It's
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: as real as the room around you. Right now. If
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: you you know an out of body experience, they say
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: you can walk through a wall, and you know, in
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: the perfect side integration, you try to walk through a wall,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: you're gonna hit your nose. It's gonna hurt. It's as
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: though you're actually there. But for you to actually do
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: something and cause something to happen. We haven't gotten that
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: fully researched or how to do it yet. We don't
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: know how to do it.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Well. I mean, that would make a lot of sense
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: if it was a very advanced form like what you're
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: mentioning that they're doing. Because that's another thing that was
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: brought up. The Skip was saying that this entity he
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: told him is that they don't really go anywhere. Now,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: that would make sense if they're really not traveling, they're
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: essentially by locating in to this reality or onto this
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: planet from someplace else.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: That could be you look up in the sky and
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: see it, see the UFO going over. I don't know,
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: can they bilocate the entire UFO then why would they
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: need to? I don't know.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Oh so well, I mean that would be easier than actually,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: you know, true traveling here. I mean, if you could
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: do it, why wouldn't you do it? Yeah, I mean
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: that kind of If that's really the way that it is,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: and that end they was telling, you know, Skip the
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: truth that they don't really go anywhere, then there's only
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: one other thing to figure out, which would be by location.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, then that's under the assumption that that.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Sounds legal yeah, I have. One of the things you
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: learned and remote view and is don't always depend on
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: logical to be accurate, you.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Know, right, Yeah, I agree? And have you ever have
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: you ever seen a portal? Because it's just it's just
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: all kind of clicking for me right now as I'm
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: talking to you.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, we're.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Essentially, if you're a removed viewer, you're essentially opening up
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: a portal inside of your own head. Would that be
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: a correct statement?
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: You could, you could call it that, Yeah, But I
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: tend to answer questions strictly is there I asked, Have
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: I ever seen a portal?
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: No?
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: I haven't.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: You haven't physically seen Do you think that they exist?
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they exist.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Would that be like a portal into another dimension or
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: another reality or another.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Planet could be?
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's a really interesting concept that because
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: people have this idea of you know.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: That the portals like there are actual real portals.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: That can open up and you can go inside of
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: them in your physical body and you'll be someplace else,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: or you know, the quantum theory or the string theory
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: that there's multiple realities and multiple dimensions going on all
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: simultaneously and time doesn't exist. There's no past, there's no future,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: there's just the present.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: All of these are human theories here.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Now back to the dream with many of them, I'm well,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: that's what that's why I got you for, is to
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: give your thoughts and your ideas and your opinions. The
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: dream scenario that I was bringing up earlier, did have
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: you had any was that encounter with the supposed extra
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: treasure or alien that you were talking about, did that
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: occur in a dream? Or was that a remote viewing?
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: No?
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: That was most of those who were in remote viewing
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: there and I won't go any further with this. Okay,
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: there have been actual physical meetings okay, and but the
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: almost all of these have been through a remote viewing. Yeah.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Can you say with who? Physical meetings with who? Okay,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: do you know when when this happened?
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: I know when it happened.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Can you give a ballpark six years ago?
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: Years ago at least? No, I don't talk about these,
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: but of the oh, thanks, you've been through remote viewing?
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, with you personally, but you know people that have
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: come face to face with them in a meeting.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: Physically, yeah, yeah, but uh yeah, but the remote viewing
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: it's actually uh better communication, better information transfer, uh, better
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: experience everything else.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when you were remote viewing them, was this something
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: that you were tasked to do or was this something
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: that you were doing on your own as.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: A generally generally, yeah, I was testing. Well, I was
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: tasked to do it. But I need to make this
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: caveat here. We were never officially tasked through military channels
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: to do et work. Okay, we were never officially tasked. Now,
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: if a four star journal comes in and says I
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: need the answer to something, what are you going to say? No? No,
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: you don't said no, you just do it.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're confirming that that has happened to you on.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: That there were personal interests within the military and the
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: government by many people who and some of those people
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: had access to us and Kadeska's favors.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Do you know what they did that information? Because I've
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: talked to a lot of people from the program, including yourself,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: several times, and everyone has basically said that very little
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: feedback was ever given to them by the military or
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: by the d i A or army intelligence. Do you
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: know what they did with this?
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: And call a four star general and say, hey, you
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: owe me some information. No, No, there's rarely ever any feedback.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Do you think that that somehow.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Got to them the president at that time, whoever the
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: president Carter or.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: One of the ways we get feedback. Oh, we developed feedback, okay?
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: Is we we u p SI here keep a database
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: on all the work does and compare it to the
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: feedback that we do get. And okay, you told me
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: that there's a car and red square in Moscow and
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: it's it's a blue car, okay, and they just got
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: a certain person in it. Okay. We would then say,
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: describe the person who's in it, and if we have feedback,
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: we'd get your descriptions. We'd also say it was the
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: car blue. Because we want to know how good you
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: are at colors, okay, And by keeping this data, we
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: over a long period of time, we know how accurate
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: you are in colors and shapes and sizes and purposes
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: and sounds and smells and tastes and all that. And
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: so you do a session for me, I can look
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: in the database and know how much to trust your findings,
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: and then we know how much you can trust that
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: viewer to be accurate. Then when we do get feedback,
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: we check to see if they actually had that accuracy,
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: and it almost never fails. Yeah, doing the database, if
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: you don't put garbage in, you don't get garbage out.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: You put good stuff in, you get good stuff out.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: And the database acts as a way that we can
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: judge a viewer's accuracy, whether we get feedback or not.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: We know what happens all of that data. Once the
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: CIA took over the programming ninety five, do you know
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: what they did with all the data? Do they destroy it?
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Do they leave it? Is it in some archive?
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: And when you retired, they quit telling you things.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: So you retired right after you left in ninety two.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: I retired in ninety two.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so as soon as you left the program,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: you retired from the Army.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: And yeah, and I went I was to go back
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: to the unit, and I went to the Defense Intelligence
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: Agency started working for them, and they kept me on
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: as a database manager because I'm databasing is what I
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: do and computer work is what I do, And so
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: they kept me on there. And the Remote Viewing Unit
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: h went into extinction not too long after after I
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: had retired.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Did you have a feeling that it was going to
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: be shut down before you left, Like, what was the
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: feeling of the people that were there in the unit
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: when you were there?
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: I kind of thought it would be Yeah.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: And why was that? Why did you Why was there
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: this consensus that it was going to be shut down
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: like a fund or changing hands?
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: Several reasons. The main reasons that are that in dc
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: AH there are two main reasons for anything. Once politics
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: the O there's money, and at the end of the
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: Cold War they were downsizing politically and financially. And you
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: have ground agents who are out there over sees with
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: ten years of risking their lives and all that, and
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: you've got to defund somebody. Who are you going to defund?
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: There's crazy sach except it for me. Yeah, and I
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: can't see. I can't say I blame them.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Or they just change it into a completely black budget
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: program to where nobody knows anything about it.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah. The thing is I this is one of my
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: standard answers to that question. Oh, I think they would
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: be stupid to have gotten rid of the remote viewing
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: effort as a collection intelligence collection method. Oh, but that
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: changes the question as to whether our government ever does
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: anything stupid or not. And so in the end, the
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: answer is I don't know.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, we don't know.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: But I'm.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: If I were to speculate and theorize, I would say
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: that it changed into a program more similar to what
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: you were mentioning in the beginning of this video that
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Russia was doing. And we'll leave it at that.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So what do we think about time travel? Do
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: we think the time travel is possible?
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: Oh? In remote viewing, time is the easiest thing. When
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: we train you, we pick a target, put in an
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: envelope and see letter or not you know which it's
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: hidden and and we have done different research on this.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: We task you to describe the picture you're going to see,
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: and you describe it and then you see it. You
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: have just projected your mind thirty minutes into the future.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: And once we have established that you could do that,
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: then we start using past targets. We start using future targets.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: You know, describe what's going to be on page three
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: of Life magazine two weeks from now. Ah, we get it.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: We wait Life Magazine, We open it to page three
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: and sure enough, you've described it. You have seen the future.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: And as a result, we keep data on this how
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: accurate you are in moving through time and it winds
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: up the time is the easiest thing to do in
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: remote view I mean, moving through time is the easiest
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: thing to do. And once we know how good and
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: accurate you are, then somebody can say, well, what really happened,
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: oh with Princess Die, okay, and we can find out,
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: you know, what really happened.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: And.
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: The police or the police, you know what really happened
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: at this crime scene? Yeah, we can tell them.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So you would practice on the future first, like
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: you were mentioning with the Life magazine or Time magazine
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: or whatever. Just tell me what's going to be on
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: pages to fifty seven of Time magazine in two weeks.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: And then once you've done that enough and there's that
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: verifiable data from in two weeks, when you go and
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: look and it's accurate, and you can kind of start
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: going back into the past. That would make a lot
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: of sense because it would be very difficult to verify
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: things that happened in the past, right, like yeah, yeah,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: even ten to twenty years ago, it would be different history.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: History really is written by the victors, you know. But
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: the thing that most people learning controlled remote viewing don't
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: like is it is practice, practice, practice, database database database,
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: practice practice, wait for feedback, practice, database, wait for feedback,
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: you know, and it's not something. I mean, you go
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: out on the internet and hear all these people who
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: say I'm a remote viewer. I just sit back and
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: close my eyes, and you know, they have no data,
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: they have no accuracy record, they have no proof that
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: anything they're doing is anything but imagination. There's some good
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: psychics out there, but I mean, let's face it, these days,
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: people don't say show me your proof, they say show
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: me your data. And if you don't have the data,
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: you can't really be dependent on. Oh. I can take
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: some of these armchair experts off the internet and have
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: them do a session, and I don't know if I
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: can depend on them or not. There's no way to
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: know them. And what if some missing kid his life
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: depends on it. I'm not going to use them. I'm
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: going to use the control remote viewer. And the police
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: are coming to that same conclusion. Companies are coming to
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: that same conclusion. Researchers, all the people who have maybe
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: millions of dollars at stake, they don't want some somebody
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: off the internet. They want somebody with a proven track record.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: And so that's what we're doing, we're establishing that and
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: we're uh, we're making this from a woo woo thing
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: into a real science.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Why do you think that these people would claim that
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: they were remove you and when they're just using their imagination?
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Do you think that it's because it's the popular thing
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: to do. It's kind of like a trending thing right now.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: It's gone out of like mediumship and stuff like that,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: and they think that that there's something to it because
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: the government was doing it and.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: You were involved in those programs.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: So therefore, now that they can say that it's not
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: they're not necessarily channeling anymore. They're not doing, you know,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: one of these various methods of getting still information.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: All of the psychic stuff is now falling under the
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: term remote viewing. When it may be dousing, it may
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: be tea leaf reading, it may be crystal ball reading
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: or anything like that. It's all being called remote viewing.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: But the thing is why, you know, when you ask
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: why are they saying those things? I think part of
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: it is because they haven't studied and they don't know
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: the actual history, and they don't actually know what the
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: formalized remote viewing is. And the other thing is. I
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: think they're saying it, you know, that they're remote viewers
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: because they believe it. I don't think they're being dishonest.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: I think they just don't know what remote viewing actually is.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: They've been told that they're a remote viewer, and so
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: they believe it. The problem is that maybe somebody finds
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: out that they're good at dowsing. You go to the
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: library and there are books on dowsing, how to do it,
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: work books and everything else. And yet that person can
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: do that, read those books, practice those exercises, and become
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: a fantastic dowser. But now then they've been told, oh,
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: you're a remote viewer, and the books stay in the library.
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: The the historical knowledge about dowsing never gets to the
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: person who would otherwise be a fantastic dawser. What's wrong
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: with calling him a dowser? Nothing?
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: What what is the definition of a dolls er? When
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: I think of a dolls or I think of like
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: dowsing rods and using dowsing rods. That's not what you mean, though,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: you mean, like, yeah, yeah, this was what you mean.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: Pendulum and and hotspot over a map and and things
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: like that. These are these are forms of dowsing, you know,
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: and uh, and you get a person who's trained in
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: it and practiced in it. Listen, they're good. There are
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: good dazzers out there. But somebody coming into it new
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: and they find out they're good at dowsing. Oh no,
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: you're a remote viewer, and so all of that historic
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: knowledge is lost to them because now then they're off
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: trying to find out what remote viewing is. And that's
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: that's the thing that gives me the heartburn about calling
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: everything remote viewing. You know, that it's actually denying historical
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: information to so many people who are good dowsers, who
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: are good scriers, who are are good you know, casting
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: ruins things like this. There are people who have that
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: as a natural talent and they're being guided away from it.
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: So anyway, I'll get off that soap opera, that soapbox.
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: Okay, y.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that it's important the distinction because people
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: do like to lump everything into the same category, you know,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: out of body experiences, near death experiences, remote viewing, psychic abilities, channeling,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: you know, it's all kind of just lumped into the
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: the same category. And I am seeing this uh trend
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: of remote viewing in the past couple of years now
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: where it used to be called something different and now
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: they've all changed it to remote viewing. Now it's like
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: everyone is all of a sudden magically remote viewers somehow.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: It's like trying to make every medical a person a
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: general practitioner. Yeah, oh yeah.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: And I don't really know exactly what the I mean
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: the the only thing I think of is the popularity
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: of it and people talking about remote viewing and making
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: it a which there's nothing wrong with that. I think
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: that more attention needs to be brought to the topic,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: like from real legitimate people like yourself, like David mooreholes
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: like doctor Paul Smith, like Dellgraph, like Angela Ford, and
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: those types of people that were officially in this program
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: that learned the way that you were supposed.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: To have been learned I mean taught.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Sorry, learned isn't a word. The way that you were
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: taught to do it and follow that path. These people
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: think that they can just you know, give themselves their
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: own target and know exactly what they're viewing and then
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: they can view it.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And like I say, I don't think it's out
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: of dishonesty. I think it's out of the fact that
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: they haven't looked, they haven't done their homework, and they
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: honestly we believe the general bandwagon name of remote viewing. Ah,
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: but I think that the Internet and Facebook and all
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: that has done a real disservice to the whole burgeoning
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: field of of what can be a you know, an
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: opening mentally and spiritually for everyone. So I think it's
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: just that people don't do their homework.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Now, we were talking about remove viewing the past. What
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: stands out to you that you may have remote viewed
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: in the past that was, you know, of importance that
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: you know struck you as like, oh, this is really interesting.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: Interesting one pops to mind. I was. I got a
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: call one day and the guy said, well, I'm not
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: going to pollute you. I just want to know, uh,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: the answer to why. And I said why what? And
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: he said, no, I'm not going to pollute you. Give
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: me the answer. And so I did my session and
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: I came up with, uh, they didn't have any money,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: and he blew it off. Is you know, just total
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: failure and all that. About a year later, I got
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: a call back from the same guy and he said,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: I was doing research and why the Aztec and my
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: you know, Asstac or mine. Forget which cities emptied out overnight,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: and he said, and they didn't have money. And so
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: he said, what did you find out in your whole session?
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: So I dug out the session and I said, well,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: I got people who were going to a place for
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: a certain amount of time, like the National Guards spends
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: two weeks, you know, and they go to the armory
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: and spend two weeks every year, and that that was
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: their tax that was required by the government. And then
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: at the end of that time they went back to
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: their farms and all this other stuff, and a new
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: group came, and one day the government fell and didn't
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: require it anymore, so some went home and nobody came
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: the next day. And he said, that explains exactly, you know,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: why the cities would have emptied out overnight, because instead
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: of being cities, there were places where the people come
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: to do labor for the government as their tax because
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: they didn't have money. And so it was a year
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: afterwards that in his studies about you know, the Musso
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: American cultures, he came to the conclusion that hey, maybe
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: that was the right answer. And he called and he
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: said this is phenomenal.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Have you ever removed viewed ancient Egypt or anything to
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: do with the Pyramids?
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: Some, Oh not anything really spectacular. I've been tasked with
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: the Sphinx, but as far as the pyramids and the
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: culture or anything like that, I've never gotten that tasking.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: What did you, well, impression did you get about the sphinx?
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: That it was ancient before the Egyptians ever got there,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: and that one time it was almost completely buried in
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: the ground.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: Wow?
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Um, yeah, someone just Leon Saiden the Lion, Leo the Lion.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Have you ever looked into or remove viewed the Immuta
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Triangle or any of these interesting triangles like the Great
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Lake Triangle or the Alaskan Triangle where you know, ships
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: and people and planes, And I.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: Haven't personally been tasked with it. I don't on all
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: of these type of targets. I generally don't bother with
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: them unless they're tasked to me. There are so many
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: missing children, missing soldiers that I you know, I have
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: a stack of targets that I want of you because
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: I'm curious about them and that people have asked me
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: to do. And it sounds like, oh, that's neat you know,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: and there's another stack of police cases, missing children and
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: all that, and the stack over here. I'll never get
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: to it. There's so many people out there here needing information,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: businesses that need information, researchers that need information, police agencies
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: and all that that actually need information and have nowhere
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: to get it. I don't have I don't have time
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: for these targets over here.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Have you worked for the police, Have you done cases
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: for the police. You don't have to say who.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: I've worked for a lot of the police cases.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: You know, did they take what you remove you seriously?
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: And did any of it lead to the rescue of
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: anyone or the finding of anyone?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: Most of them did. Because the thing is, I don't advertise,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: and I don't go out and say, hey, here I
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: am to save the day and all that. If they
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: don't get in touch with me, then I don't go
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: ahead get in touch with them.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: There are a lot of psychics and all that who
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: look in the newspaper and the latest disaster, the latest abduction,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: you know, missing child or something like that. They'll they'll
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: do that information. Most of them then hold the information
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: and don't give it to the police. And those who
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: do give it to the police. The police tend to say,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: oh psychic crumple crumple toss, you know. And so if
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: the police don't call me, then I don't do the session.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: I never charge the police.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I would be super overwhelming if you were
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: just going out there and doing it on you, if
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: you were reaching out to all the people, and then
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: also people were reaching out to you, you would be
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: like too much, too much going on.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: I can do anyway. I don't want I don't want
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: more work. I want to retire.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: You're never going to retire, Lane, You're too good at it,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Adam has a question here. Can you
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: please ask Lena what removed you? A modality would be
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: best for one who's in the sihabilities were introduced by
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: childhood trauma. I think that that's how a lot of
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: people get introduced to these types of abilities are through.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: Drall And I hate to sound callisht about it, but
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: who cares? What caused you to be psychic and have
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: psychic ability? Now that you have it, find a way
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: to use it, okay. And some of those traumas are
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: going to come in too color and influence your viewing
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: they're going to be targets that you were used to
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: view because it treutches on that trauma. But there are
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: other targets that people need information on, you know. And
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: so you know, if it happened with childhood trauma, I'm sorry,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: I sympathize, but to sound callous about it, Hey, it happened,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: to get over it. Now, start using what you were
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: given and quit dragging it along with you. You know,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: do the best you can to get over it, and
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: many times using the ability you have will help you
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: get over the trauma.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that that's a sort of a common
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: thing with a lot of the people that I've talked to,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: is some sort of traumatic event happened to them when
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: they were younger. They had an out of body experience.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: That was what happened with in Ghostwan. He talked about
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: it several times, how he was bullied as a child
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: and then you would have these out of body experiences
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: and that's when these types of abilities, you know, it
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: came to be several people with the near death experiences,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: they come back with some sort of ability that they
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: didn't have before. So I don't think that's an uncommon thing.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: I think that's actually pretty common.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: How did your well, you've told the story before how
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: you would use your PK abilities and you destroyed all
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: the computers and that's what kind of got you recruited
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: into the end of the program.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, with me, there was no traumatic experience. Oh.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: I was talking to a group of psychiatrists one time,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: given a lecture about and I said, I have a
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: yah situation that most of you haven't been trained at.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: That is, I grew up happy and healthy, and you know,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: what do you do in that case? But from earliest childhood,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: I remember my mother was basically teaching me to depend
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: on the ability. And I've shown it as far back
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: as I can remember. Early childhood was predicting things, knowing
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: things before they happened, and such as that. You know,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: So it's been just a natural thing that has grown
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: up with me.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Same here. I was the same way I was able
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: to know what song was going to come on to
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: the radio before came onto the radio. I would get
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: it right every single time. I'd be able to tell
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: you who was at the door of someone knocked without
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: seeing them, see.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: Who pulled up like.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: I had a lot of those, and I was really
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: good at pulling like really good Pokemon cards out of packs,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: Like if I watched like a commercial for the news.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: I mean this was like back in the nineties, you know,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: like the old commercials for like Pokemon cards, and I
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: would see the card that everybody wants. I would just
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: put that card in my mind, and then my dad
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: would take me to go get a pack of Pokemon
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: cards and I would pull that card and I would
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: tell him before I did it. I was like, Dad,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get the I get.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: The charge Art card, and boom. The first pack that
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: I opened, I got the charge Art card.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, every time, every time I worked like that. But
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: then I just kind of, you know, life, this kind
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: of came in and I didn't know what that was.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: I didn't know really what was going on other than
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: whenever I was really young, I would I've told this
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: story a couple of times before, but when I was
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: really young, I would lay I would sleep in my
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: parents' room because you know, as a kid, you're kind
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: of afraid of the dark and stuff. But at night
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: I would see these creatures or these beings like morph
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: out of the walls. And they never hurt me, they
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: never touched me. They never did anything to me that
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: I can recall, but I would. I told my parents
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: about it, and they took me to an eye doctor
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: because they thought that something was wrong with my eyes.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: And they took me to the eye doctor, and the
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: eye doctor was actually a really you know, generous guy,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: and he was like, I think that there's something more
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: going on here. And he gave me these these like
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: little cards there. They look like business cards, but I
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: distinctly remember it. It had these like bull's eyes on
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: There was like three of them, and he said, can
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: you make these bulls eyes pop up off of the card? Like,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: can you visualize these.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: Bulls eyes coming off of the car?
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I can. Then he gave me
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: something else to do, and he was like, come back
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: and see me whenever you can do this other thing,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: and then.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: I just never went back.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was kind of the end of it
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: for me.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: I know. One time in the military, this guy was
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: showing card tricks and he was really good at them,
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  Speaker 4: and and so all of a sudden he plopped the
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  Speaker 4: deck down to me and said, no, you do a
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  Speaker 4: card trick. And I said, well, I don't do card tricks,
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  Speaker 4: and he said, I don't care do one. And I said, okay,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to turn my back. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 4: touch the cards. You have them there on the table.
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  Speaker 4: I want you to pick up the deck, shuffle it
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  Speaker 4: as many times as you want, as well as you want.
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  Speaker 4: And you're a card shark, you know how to shuffle
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  Speaker 4: cards and all that, and so he did and I said, okay,
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  Speaker 4: now then I want you to cut the cards, and
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  Speaker 4: right where you cut it, turn up the card and
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  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what the card is. And he turned
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  Speaker 4: it up and I told him what the card was.
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  Speaker 4: He never quit asking me how I did that trick.
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  Speaker 4: He said, I have tried. I can't figure out how
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  Speaker 4: you did that trick. And he said, I'm good at
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  Speaker 4: card tricks and I can't figure it out. Maybe it
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  Speaker 4: was a locker.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that that's something that we really need
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  Speaker 1: to be doing with children. I think that we need
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  Speaker 1: to get children into doing that type of thing and
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  Speaker 1: testing them in that way and you know, blindfolding them
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  Speaker 1: and have them, you know, tell me what this caller is,
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  Speaker 1: tell me what that collor is, have them hold something
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  Speaker 1: in their hand or have him do these types of
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  Speaker 1: like psychic test. Now people claim that that was something
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  Speaker 1: that was done in the United States, like public schools,
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  Speaker 1: where they would be taken out of a classroom and
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  Speaker 1: they would be given some kind of advanced testing or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and then they would be put into a different kind
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  Speaker 1: of class depending on what how they scored in that especially.
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  Speaker 4: I know that there are some teachers who are teaching
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  Speaker 4: kids how to be blindfolded and read cards, you know,
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  Speaker 4: but I've never heard that it was done in public school.
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  Speaker 1: That's just what a few people clean. Forget what they
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  Speaker 1: call it. It's like there's a bunch of different names
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  Speaker 1: for it. But I don't know if there's any.
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  Speaker 4: General stories about how the government you know, text kids
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  Speaker 4: and tests on kids and all that. I have found
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  Speaker 4: it very hard to believe most of those stories.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because military wasn't involved with any children at all, period, right.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Well not there, I know. Yeah, just like they
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  Speaker 4: can't prove it did happen, I can't prove it didn't,
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  Speaker 4: So it ever happened.
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  Speaker 3: Yea, Yeah, you're in a you're between a rock and
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  Speaker 3: can't I can't think of what the word is.
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