Latest / Brandon Fogal Evolution / #122 - Wes Huff Goes On Flagrant | I'm Hating Christianity More & More
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- 0:00So Wes Huff goes on to flagrant Andrew Schultz's show with Akash Singh.
- 0:07And it was very, very good.
- 0:09They talked about a lot of things. I think they covered the gambit of all Christianity.
- 0:15Anything Christian and any questions you could ask, I think they threw it out
- 0:19there. They threw it out on the table.
- 0:21And to be honest, I think Wes Huff knocked it out of the park.
- 0:27I mean, you couldn't have had a more perfect answer to about everything that I saw.
- 0:34My name is Brandon Fogel. This is Evolution. Let's dive into this.
- 0:37I also want to talk about, should we program AI to be a Christian?
- 0:45I want to float that out there. I want to float that out there.
- 0:49Just food for thought for anyone that has even thought of that idea.
- 0:54Would that be a safe thing?
- 0:56For our world and for humanity to
- 0:58have the next echelon of what our future entails to be AI as a Christian.
- 1:08I'm kind of thinking maybe we should, we should maybe put that into the hard
- 1:12wiring and the programming so that the software, when it becomes like Terminator
- 1:17style, it's still a nice Terminator, you know? That's what I'm thinking.
- 1:21But regarding Andrew Schultz and Akash Singh and everything that they fired at him, the questions.
- 1:28Andrew is Christian and he seems like he propagates or promotes or whatever.
- 1:35Orthodox. He kind of aligns more with the Orthodox vibe of Christianity.
- 1:41Wes is a Protestant and Akash, who's on the show, I'm not sure what he is.
- 1:47I think he's a Hindu, but he does not agree with Christianity.
- 1:50And he seem like the only one on the show that was kind of giving him a little
- 1:55flack because he doesn't agree.
- 1:57And I totally get that. But I also want to talk about when everything,
- 2:02when it's laid out so clearly and articulately as Wes Huff did,
- 2:07I kind of get why people wanted to crucify Christ when the truth is standing before you.
- 2:15And I know, I know Wes Huff, he's not the same as Jesus. He is not truth incarnate,
- 2:19but it doesn't, because it is always flabbergast me thinking about why did those
- 2:25religious leaders want to crucify Jesus?
- 2:28I mean, the perfect man and saying what is absolute truth.
- 2:34Why did they hate it so much within a small window of time wanted to kill him?
- 2:40And I'm not saying Akash wants to kill Weshoff or anything like that,
- 2:44but I, it kind of makes sense because we're seeing it front and center with someone that,
- 2:49Tell someone what the reality is, and you just cannot accept it.
- 2:55You cannot, he cannot accept it.
- 2:57I love these guys at show. I love what Andrew Schultz and Akash,
- 3:02I think they do an amazing show.
- 3:03That's one of my favorite podcasts, and I love listening to them.
- 3:06But it doesn't matter when you have a different worldview of everything.
- 3:11It makes sense. I see it. And I, and it shows you that how corrupt we are as
- 3:20people that our hearts, we can be staring truth in the eye and we can just walk away.
- 3:26And he went so far to even saying, I'm hating Christianity more and more,
- 3:31the more you are talking.
- 3:33And we're going to take a short clip of this, this encounter.
- 3:36And this is the buildup. They, they covered everything. It was so good.
- 3:40The, all the things they went through, they, I mean, you name it,
- 3:44they went off on it because these guys are just straight up guys.
- 3:48And they're just, they threw everything out at him and just anything that was
- 3:52in their heart and on their mind and anything that would trip up anyone from
- 3:57embracing Christianity, they threw it out on the table.
- 4:01And, and Wes, I think answered it very well, pretty much everything.
- 4:06But like even that idea of like, you'll know my followers by their fruits
- 4:09it's like if you see a hindu or like a
- 4:12sick that's feeding people yeah at their temple or a muslim
- 4:15that's living like a very pious life perhaps they're living a christian
- 4:18life is it possible that that is the the fruit
- 4:21that you can know them by um a christless christian life isn't a christian life
- 4:25so how do you know he's not in there it's it's written on your heart sure but
- 4:30if he's confessing sikhism the tenets of sikhism confessing god's going fessing
- 4:36god's going, listen, you could call it that.
- 4:40So here's the thing. All religions are saying- I'm hating Christianity more. You know me from Christ.
- 4:48That was an hour and a half ago.
- 4:53Now we're cooking though. That's a lettering thing that Christians say, right? Yes.
- 4:57But it's some people that disagree so much on fundamental worldview issues. They can still talk.
- 5:04This is what separates from anyone that wants to shut people's mouth and the
- 5:09people that it doesn't matter how far we disagree, we can still talk.
- 5:13We can still laugh. And it's not the end of the world. The people that are on
- 5:18the opposite viewpoint of us, they're not Hitler.
- 5:21They're not Hitler and they're evil. And I don't think Akash would think Wes
- 5:26is evil, but he just so disagrees with it.
- 5:29He so disagrees with it. And this really puzzles me because it was put out,
- 5:36Almost every question that he could say, and he said it clearly,
- 5:39and he made it so disappointed that all truths cannot be the same.
- 5:45But I think, like anyone, people have words or phrases or situations that will
- 5:51trigger them, and that goes for anyone.
- 5:54The word that set them off was the word confessing. I mean, and that can seem
- 6:00archaic. somebody, I confess something.
- 6:05The martyrs became named martyrs because they were witnesses.
- 6:11That was what the word martyr meant, because they stood for their witness.
- 6:15They confessed Christ and they died for Christ.
- 6:18But I see how like one word, because I've had in my own life where words just,
- 6:24they light something up in the back of my mind.
- 6:27They bring back a memory. They bring something that just puts me in a squeamish
- 6:32position. I don't feel so good.
- 6:35And Akash's reaction, I mean, I get that.
- 6:39I get that. He's like confessing, confessing. You're making me hate Christianity more and more.
- 6:45And that goes for anyone.
- 6:48I mean, the message goes out to everyone. And I just love how we're talking about this.
- 6:54It seems like on everything across the internet, that Jesus is the talking point.
- 6:59Jesus is what we're at least talking about.
- 7:02And I think these guys, sometimes it seems like they, not all of them are on
- 7:06the same page in everything.
- 7:07There are Christians in the room. There's a Roman Catholic, there's an Orthodox,
- 7:10Andrew Schultz, and he kept trying to win Wes Hoover to that side.
- 7:14But I mean, for me, it doesn't even matter sides within Christianity.
- 7:18At the end of the day, Jesus isn't looking down and saying, And that's my fundamental
- 7:24Baptist. I love him, but I don't like that.
- 7:29Episcopalian. He's got something wrong or that Orthodox over there.
- 7:33I'm not accepting. I don't know why Jesus has a Southern accent,
- 7:35but you never know. No, I don't think he would.
- 7:39Christian is Christian at the end of the day. And that's why I'm fully for everything.
- 7:45The walls coming down, the barriers coming down between the dividing lines that
- 7:49we've just artificially created and put up.
- 7:53But it is extremely intriguing to me that someone can see the light.
- 8:00It can be right in front of them, but our natures, our natures, we cannot accept it.
- 8:07I can think of times before I was a Christian, I would go to Bible studies and
- 8:12you're thinking about everything in the world other than what is being talked about.
- 8:17You're thinking about, you know, tomorrow and the next day, things I got, my plans.
- 8:23And if you even are talking about Jesus or truth, it really doesn't resonate.
- 8:28It doesn't really sink in. It doesn't. Before I became a Christian, I was a wall.
- 8:33And when people would talk to me about it, they were talking to a wall and something
- 8:38has to quicken or make something come to life inside you before it even makes sense.
- 8:45And I think that was with the religious leaders in Jesus's day.
- 8:48They saw this man that was opposing their political power, and they wanted to kill it.
- 8:56They wanted prestige, they wanted influence, and they wanted power.
- 9:02And this man, this Galilean carpenter comes up, who's a hick himself from Nazareth,
- 9:09and he starts just challenging us, making us look stupid.
- 9:14And it doesn't matter how much truth he is saying, or we can't convict him of
- 9:19sin. He hasn't done anything actually wrong.
- 9:21We just got to start making stuff up. And they just hated him.
- 9:26They hated him. This reminds me of Tim Tebow. Tim Tebow, he...
- 9:31He did, and he still does stand for Christianity, and he wears it on his sleeve. And people hated that.
- 9:38People hated that. They lose their mind. It doesn't matter.
- 9:42I'm biased where I think he was a good football player. I think he was a good
- 9:46football player, but that's the bias in me.
- 9:48I wanted him to do well, and I liked him.
- 9:51And other people, what he was standing for, they immediately hated it just because
- 9:55what he was standing for, what he was kneeling for.
- 9:58And they could not take Tebow Mania. Wes Huff is another huge tool in God's
- 10:06tool belt that he is using.
- 10:09And I certainly pray for Wes Huff because when you have this ability to take
- 10:15the masses and be able to propagate Christianity in such a way,
- 10:20things are going to be coming at him.
- 10:22Things are going to be coming at him. And from all sides, Satan is not going
- 10:27to turn a blind eye to what Wes Huff is doing because he's taking the internet
- 10:32by storm and he's been on everything. He's going on everything.
- 10:35And he's making the conversation about Christ just mainstream.
- 10:41Everybody, if you are not in on this Jesus thing, you're behind right now and
- 10:46you need to catch up because everyone's talking about it.
- 10:49And when Jesus is on the table, it doesn't matter.
- 10:52Some people are going to hate it and some people are going to love it.
- 10:55And we saw that in this show. It was hilarious. There were There's so many fun
- 10:58things in the show with Andrew Schultz and these guys that are on there.
- 11:02And another thing, Wes Huff came bearing gifts to the show. And this could have been something.
- 11:08It didn't seem like he gave gifts to the guys that weren't Christians in the room.
- 11:14And maybe, maybe that was planned. He gave the, Andrew, maybe he thought Andrew
- 11:18would appreciate it more.
- 11:20And I don't know the other man's name, but who's a Roman or a Catholic in there,
- 11:24who's a Christian. He gave him a gift as well.
- 11:27He gave him the papyrus of the gospel of Thomas, like he did on Joe Rogan's show.
- 11:32So maybe that was that plan. Maybe did that kind of set Akash off?
- 11:36Maybe did that set the other guy off to, they are a little more hostile.
- 11:40Would they even been happy? I think everybody likes a gift. and maybe he did
- 11:44behind scenes, backstage, gave them all a gift, but maybe he just thought the
- 11:49Christians would appreciate it more.
- 11:51It was a very intriguing, intriguing hour, actually almost four hours, over three hours.
- 11:59And Andrew was like, I could go on days and days talking about this.
- 12:03I would love you to stay here, but we can't keep you captive.
- 12:06We got to, we got to order the Uber. And then within the last,
- 12:09if you, I mean, everything, the whole podcast was fire.
- 12:13But in the last even like two minutes, they asked him, they threw on Wes's lap.
- 12:18They said, can you sum up what the Trinity is?
- 12:21Sum up the Godhead in two minutes before the Uber comes.
- 12:25And even that, Wes Huff, probably tired, probably tired of speaking,
- 12:31wants to get out of there, maybe wants to go eat.
- 12:33And he still just kills it and just says the.
- 12:37He made it so clearly, understandably, and it was aligned with orthodox in what
- 12:43the Bible says that of the Godhead, the God is three persons in one being,
- 12:49Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
- 12:50Praise Jesus. This was awesome. All right. Have a great day, everyone.