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Headless's Magic Mailbag- Symbols and Heidi Luv of the Unfiltered Rise Podcast · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: What? What's gonna happen?
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  Speaker 3: What a.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to another edition of Headless's mail Bag Magical Mailbag.
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  Speaker 2: I've got two guests with me today. I've got Nick
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  Speaker 2: and Heidi from the Unfiltered Rise podcast and may Cult Rejects.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead and introduce yourself and tell people where they
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  Speaker 2: can find you. Go ahead, Nick?
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  Speaker 1: What up?
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  Speaker 4: Nick?
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  Speaker 5: Yes?
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  Speaker 4: From the O Cult Rejects? Uh YouTube, rumble bit shoot
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  Speaker 4: an old major podcast? What are your podcast? Thank you?
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  Speaker 2: Thank you? Go ahead? Heidi?
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  Speaker 1: I am Heidi Love of the Unfiltered Rise Everywhere podcast
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  Speaker 1: or served. Do you have my own website Unfiltered ricepodcast
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  Speaker 1: dot com? And I'm on the Cult reject Thank you
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  Speaker 1: for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for being here. So tonight, I have brought
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  Speaker 2: my symbol, which I think a lot of anime fans
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  Speaker 2: might know, but they don't know the story behind it.
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  Speaker 2: So I'll just go ahead and get started here. This
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  Speaker 2: is called the Brand of Sacrifice and it's from the
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  Speaker 2: manga and TV show or yeah, I guess the TV
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  Speaker 2: show Berserk, which is fun. But what a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people don't know about Berserk is it's actually based on
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  Speaker 2: a true story, and it was psychically transmitted to Japan
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  Speaker 2: from Germany. Originally, there's this guy in the fifteen hundreds
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  Speaker 2: called Gots von Berlichingen and they call him gods of
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  Speaker 2: the iron arm. Let me read this to you real quick.
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  Speaker 2: In fourteen eighty in Jagsuthen Hornberg Castle was a German knight.
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  Speaker 2: He became best known for his role in the Swabian
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  Speaker 2: Peasants War, as a model for the main character of
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  Speaker 2: the same name in John Wolfgang Gotta's play Gots von
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  Speaker 2: Berlichingen and the notorious Gots quote, which we'll get into later.
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  Speaker 2: Gots came from a family of the lords of Berlichingen
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  Speaker 2: and was last of ten children in the Killian Berlichingen
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  Speaker 2: from jag Seth thousand fourteen forty one May to fourteen
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  Speaker 2: ninety eight and Margathia of Dugen married since twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: For a few years of the childhood he lived at
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  Speaker 2: Jungensen Castle. But what's really interesting about him is he
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  Speaker 2: got his arm blown off just like the character from Berserk.
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  Speaker 2: And his name is Gotts and the character from Berzerk's
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  Speaker 2: name is Guts. That's a weird little saying. Here's a
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  Speaker 2: great picture of his arm fully articulated, and he would
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  Speaker 2: use that to hold his sword. But what's what's really
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  Speaker 2: interesting about uh the character here Guts, is that he
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  Speaker 2: had a fully articulated, freaking metal arm.
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  Speaker 6: Oh right, So this guy in the in writing the
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  Speaker 6: Maga knew nothing of God's vun relichen Jim and his
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  Speaker 6: hometown has this is their flag today?
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  Speaker 5: Oh wow?
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  Speaker 2: Which they loved Guts. He was incredible, but he was
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  Speaker 2: best known for his say like Micham Marsh. Have you
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  Speaker 2: ever heard of that one before? It's German for lick
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  Speaker 2: me in the asshole. What he did was he was.
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  Speaker 5: One armed, one armed on the loop.
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  Speaker 7: He was standing up on top of his castle and
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  Speaker 7: this uh, you know, opposing prince decided that, you know,
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  Speaker 7: he was gonna yell out, you know, you need to surrender,
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  Speaker 7: and instead of surrendering, he yelled back like Marsh.
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  Speaker 2: And they they loved it so much in Germany that
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  Speaker 2: one of the songs of let me see what's his name?
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  Speaker 2: One of the songs by h where is it okay?
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  Speaker 2: So this was made into a song like me Sha
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  Speaker 2: Marsh by I believe it was Wolfgang Mozart, and Mozart
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  Speaker 2: wrote me Sha Marsh as this dirty body song that
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  Speaker 2: he would play for private audiences.
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  Speaker 5: Leave it to the Germans.
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  Speaker 1: German.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's what's really interesting is that you've got
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  Speaker 2: this character who is a mercenary. He wasn't a prince.
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  Speaker 2: He was a mercenary, just like the guy in Berserk.
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  Speaker 2: And he had a fully articulated metal arm. And also
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  Speaker 2: that character was sort of created out of it. So
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  Speaker 2: I think there's a lot more magic to be tapped
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  Speaker 2: into in this Berserk book. And they talk about this
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  Speaker 2: this egg, right, and this egg opens up a portal
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  Speaker 2: to where the person who holds this egg that has
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  Speaker 2: a face on it will then become one of these
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  Speaker 2: cosmic demon characters, right, And to do that, he has
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  Speaker 2: to put the brand of sacrifice on people so that
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  Speaker 2: these other demons can eat them and then use them
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  Speaker 2: for his power.
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  Speaker 5: And so it's like the origination of the sinator basically, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Something like that. But I in in Berserk world, the
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  Speaker 2: world is being oppressed and like held down by all
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  Speaker 2: of these like demon kings. And so Gots has a
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  Speaker 2: six foot long like four foot well not for foot wide,
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  Speaker 2: it's like two foot wide sword that he cares he
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  Speaker 2: slices through both the horse and the rider, and you
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  Speaker 2: know that's his like, that's his claim to fame is
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  Speaker 2: he's got this massive sword and all he does is
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  Speaker 2: train all day with it so that he can, you know,
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  Speaker 2: do amazing things because he doesn't care about technique. But
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  Speaker 2: the guy who was his his boss, Griffin, he's all
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  Speaker 2: about technique. And you've got this kind of dichotomy going
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  Speaker 2: on between them. But I highly suggest getting into Berserk
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  Speaker 2: and finding out about god fun Berlichingen. The Nazis also
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  Speaker 2: had a Berlichingen brigade, which they were the I think
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  Speaker 2: they were tankers. But the idea of this German kind
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  Speaker 2: of move towards engineering excellence was really inspired by Gods
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  Speaker 2: and how he had this fully articulated magnetic arm that
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  Speaker 2: he would hold his sword in and you know, scream
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  Speaker 2: look me in the asshole to.
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  Speaker 1: Oppose ash technique. Yeah, okay, that's the book.
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  Speaker 2: Had the six foot long sword, but gots gots. In
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  Speaker 2: real life, he only had, you know, just this.
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  Speaker 5: Sort of like the normal sword, the normal sword.
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  Speaker 2: But you know it's so strange. You've got mercenary one armed,
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  Speaker 2: fully articulated metal arm and somehow this guy in Japan
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  Speaker 2: is channeling all this stuff, and there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: magic in the in the Berserk series, and so I
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  Speaker 2: think there's something to it there, some kind of a
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  Speaker 2: connection there because that the coincidences are just off the chart,
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  Speaker 2: so I.
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  Speaker 1: Present, I would say so some channeling there inadvertently or advertently,
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  Speaker 1: But maybe it was when he was trying to open
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  Speaker 1: up his third eye that this scene came and talked
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  Speaker 1: to him. Kidding, right, there's there's this you you knew
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  Speaker 1: I had to go there.
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  Speaker 4: You said that the blownout was winking on them.
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  Speaker 2: So there is this sort of medieval sort of component
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  Speaker 2: to it, because you know, he's in the fourteen hundreds,
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  Speaker 2: just right past the you know, the medieval time period,
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  Speaker 2: and Guts in the book is also in the medieval
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  Speaker 2: time period. And there's just too many coincidences for this
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  Speaker 2: to go sort of unanswered. But I thought that was
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  Speaker 2: a great sort of intro to God's van Relichingen. He's
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  Speaker 2: got so much more history, and you know, people still
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  Speaker 2: revere the guy to this day and nobody else has
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  Speaker 2: heard of him, not sure.
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  Speaker 1: Why well, and especially being able to survive that sort
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  Speaker 1: of wound actually.
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  Speaker 5: In that day, like probably not.
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  Speaker 3: He lived into his eighties the guy was super old
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  Speaker 3: for back then, for even back today, and this guy
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  Speaker 3: was a hardened mercenary with his arm blown off, So
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  Speaker 3: that's pretty impressive.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, your army, you usually bleed to death, no
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  Speaker 1: crap arm or leg. You've got to be concerned like quickly.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean somebody.
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  Speaker 5: Helped him out and burned it or something. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I hate to think how that got fixed. Maggots and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Probably I don't even know. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm the worst.
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  Speaker 1: That's what happens. Weird things stick in your mind. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: read Crawley, You're messed up forever, just letting you people know.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I have to be.
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  Speaker 5: That's still a crazy story. Yeah, well see they like it.
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  Speaker 5: It's a little silly, but it's a serious story. I'm
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  Speaker 5: just a little silly today.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Yes, yes, I'm going to present it.
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  Speaker 5: And now there we go.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of like almost like two and one two
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  Speaker 4: for one because I was gonna cover I'm covering the
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  Speaker 4: Seal of basically the Seal of Jupiter. Now, the Seal
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  Speaker 4: of Jupiter comes with that, and also then will come
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  Speaker 4: like you also what comes along with the Seal of Jupiters.
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  Speaker 4: Then you also get like the four just four by
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  Speaker 4: four square, which is the magical square of Jupiter. They
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  Speaker 4: kind of yeah, exactly what next? Yeah, yeah, this is
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  Speaker 4: a mixer of mercury and Jupiter. Actually, yeah, I remember that.
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  Speaker 5: Nice.
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  Speaker 4: But like the silo Jupiter, I've tried to get, like
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  Speaker 4: I guess, like listen, I mean, it's probably older than
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  Speaker 4: what I even have, but I do actually have. What
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  Speaker 4: I was able to find was dating back to about
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  Speaker 4: the tenth or eleventh century. You do have it showing
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  Speaker 4: up in Arabic mathematic like type books that show planetary squares.
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  Speaker 5: There was the Abu Ewaffa.
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  Speaker 4: Ibn al Zarkhali I can't pronounce these fucking names whatever,
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  Speaker 4: but you have that around the tenth eleventh century. Then
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  Speaker 4: thirteenth century you have it popping up again by I'll
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  Speaker 4: bunt and uh that shows the four x four square again.
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  Speaker 4: Then in this thirteenth century you do get Libro d Astromagia,
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  Speaker 4: which does it pops up again there. Then in the
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  Speaker 4: Latin hand book liber D and Jealous that could also
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  Speaker 4: be considered a Cambridge m and it does show up
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  Speaker 4: there as well. Then in fourteen forty six, it shows
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  Speaker 4: up in the Key of Solomon, which is something I
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  Speaker 4: was saying earlier, is that it does show up there,
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  Speaker 4: and at that point you'll probably also get like a
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  Speaker 4: little bit of different variations of it as well. Here,
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  Speaker 4: just real quick, I did want to show this. This
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  Speaker 4: is from like fifteen hundred's art, and there's the square
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  Speaker 4: up there up in the piece of art. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: once you start getting into it with the Sea of Solomon, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: here's another one because of an Arabic.
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  Speaker 2: Looks like this.
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  Speaker 4: But when you start getting into like now Solomon and stuff,
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  Speaker 4: it starts changing.
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  Speaker 5: A little bit.
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  Speaker 4: But the other side would still have like the four
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  Speaker 4: squares on it.
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  Speaker 5: But do we get this?
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  Speaker 4: So going back to what I was saying, I just
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  Speaker 4: wanted to show some other ones. Yeah, in fourteen forty six,
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  Speaker 4: you see it show up in the Key of Solomon.
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  Speaker 4: Then it pops up again in in Albert Dura's Melancholia,
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  Speaker 4: which is what I just showed with that painting, and
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  Speaker 4: that's fifteen fourteen. Then finally shows up where I thought,
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  Speaker 4: believe it or not, is where it originated. For some reason,
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  Speaker 4: even though I've covered the other stuff, I still had
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  Speaker 4: it stuck in my head. That Heinrich Cornelisa Grippa was
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  Speaker 4: the one who had it in fifteen thirty three, but no,
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  Speaker 4: it's way older than that. Anthonysius kirchis somebody I'd brought up.
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  Speaker 4: He's even put it in his work in sixteen fifty two,
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  Speaker 4: around sixteen sixteen fifty five one of his books. And
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  Speaker 4: then in the sixteenth to eighteenth century it just you know,
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  Speaker 4: kind of got used by a bunch of different people.
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  Speaker 4: Mathers took it, the Mahemetic Order of the Golden Dorn
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  Speaker 4: eventually started using it. But yeah, yeah, Joseph, Yeah, Joseph Smith, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: John I think you know, John d is probably a
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  Speaker 4: known for using it too.
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  Speaker 6: Well.
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  Speaker 4: And then there what the seal means some of the
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  Speaker 4: things I'll just you know, try to go by whether
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  Speaker 4: the use or whatever, wealth and patrionage, protection and the authority.
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  Speaker 4: In the Golden drm practice, you can trace the seal
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  Speaker 4: in the air with a consecrated wand while vibrating yadhey
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  Speaker 4: Vades's mouth to establish jurisdiction over planetary spirits before evocation.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, basically a lot of things with Jupiter.
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  Speaker 4: If people that don't know what that is.
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  Speaker 1: I think It's funny that the Mormons always say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it was just to protect him. I'm like, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: you missed the first half to invoke right, Look, he's
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  Speaker 1: calling down something.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they have to mind.
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  Speaker 1: Him with all this business. But it isn't just protecting
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  Speaker 1: you just to have it in your pocket.
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  Speaker 4: That's oh yeah, what that means my opinion, he was
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  Speaker 4: using it for energetic value. Absolutely, it wasn't a protection
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  Speaker 4: like a protection would be more of an amulet. What
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  Speaker 4: he was using was more of a talisman zactly.
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  Speaker 5: And they say the story is that he got it wrong.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Historians say he did it wrong and that that might
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  Speaker 1: have led to his demise.
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  Speaker 4: That's even another version you can see some older versions.
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  Speaker 2: What's interesting about this is that you know, the the
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  Speaker 2: hexagram is sort of a because you've got the Seal
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  Speaker 2: of Solomon in there. To the hexagram is that sort
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  Speaker 2: of cube, and so in all the other ones you
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  Speaker 2: see the square shape. And then it has to do
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  Speaker 2: with these numbers. But I think, you know, most of these,
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  Speaker 2: I think they should be three dimensional. Yeah I thought
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  Speaker 2: that before, too, right, And so I think there's a
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  Speaker 2: three dimensional element.
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  Speaker 4: That I think there's a lot of sigils and symbols
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  Speaker 4: that if you were to try to put it into
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  Speaker 4: a three dimensional thing, you'd be like, oh, I see
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  Speaker 4: what the fuck that is?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, but that's about it.
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  Speaker 4: I just wanted to show there's the the sigil yeah
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  Speaker 4: for Jupiter, the CeAl, you know, the four squares, and
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  Speaker 4: uh believe it or I don't went back further than
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  Speaker 4: I even thought prior to when I started to cover it.
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  Speaker 4: So I learned something or remembered something that yeah, well that.
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  Speaker 1: Was good timing for me, and like, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with that in his pocket and he did not have
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  Speaker 1: his math to go underwear on, but he had that
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  Speaker 1: in his pocket.
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  Speaker 4: Funny thing is is that I did put in the
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  Speaker 4: seal of Seal of Saturn first. I figured I'll cover that,
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  Speaker 4: and when I put in images on, for some reason,
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  Speaker 4: the first thing popping up was Jupiter, and I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I'll just go with that. I guess said you didn't
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  Speaker 4: want to show me Saduren.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and there you go.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and I'm like oh and then when I
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  Speaker 4: thought of that, I was like, this is perfect for
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  Speaker 4: Heidi because Joseph Smith.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, all the things that you guys know, But
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  Speaker 1: definitely anytime it applies with Mormonism than I get a
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  Speaker 1: little more clue.
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  Speaker 5: Trying to learn more though, I was like, that's right.
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  Speaker 4: I think he had it in his pocket, right, you
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  Speaker 4: said her on his shirt or something. He had to
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  Speaker 4: seal a Jupiter.
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  Speaker 5: Right for Joseph. Yeah, yeah, he did have that on him, correct,
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  Speaker 5: he had.
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  Speaker 1: He carried the Jupiter talisman with him everywhere he went
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  Speaker 1: and his wife.
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  Speaker 5: Actually, the church tries to say it wasn't his.
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  Speaker 1: However, his wife wanted it back, and it was one
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  Speaker 1: of the rare things.
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  Speaker 5: She said, that is his, it is mine.
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  Speaker 1: I want it back, and then she clipped a piece
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  Speaker 1: of his hair and were at the rest of her
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  Speaker 1: life on a necklace.
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  Speaker 5: But she wasn't a witch, don't worry.
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  Speaker 1: They also dug them up and made canes out of
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  Speaker 1: their grody coffin wood and put the hair inside the
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  Speaker 1: top of the knob.
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  Speaker 5: It's awesome. Yeah, well, freak shit, they weren't witches. Don't worry.
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  Speaker 1: We still have those canes in the museum.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They moved those bodies so much that I would be
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  Speaker 1: surprised if they aren't.
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  Speaker 5: You know, somewhere else right now. But that's just my
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  Speaker 5: thoughts at least the head speaking of headless, Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 5: my guess.
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  Speaker 2: So I have a question email about an experience. So
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  Speaker 2: this comes from morb. It says, do you know of
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  Speaker 2: a demon that is a baby corpse with this mouth
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  Speaker 2: and eyes smeared black? I just removed that sick thing
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  Speaker 2: from this and I'm interested to know a bit about
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  Speaker 2: the sick fucker. Some of the horrible visions were brutal.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so there is a TikTok going around. This is
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  Speaker 1: weird timing. Have you heard of this with the kids
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  Speaker 1: right now? That they look in the mirror and then
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  Speaker 1: they open the toilet. My daughter tells me this and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, uh ah, water and a mirror?
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  Speaker 5: Are you insane? Did you guys do this?
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  Speaker 1: And she swore she didn't. Bet they did because I
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  Speaker 1: just got a text from a mom. So now I
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  Speaker 1: have to have a whole discussion with my kid because
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  Speaker 1: she's scaring the crap out of everyone in the neighborhood
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  Speaker 1: by like showing them this TikTok. You know, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: would you say I banned that off her phone? I
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: don't even know how she got it around that, But
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  Speaker 1: that's a whole nother story.
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  Speaker 5: Eleven and they.
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  Speaker 1: Are saying this about a baby, something about throwing a
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  Speaker 1: baby in the toilet.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know. I didn't watch the TikTok man I
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  Speaker 5: I don't mutch.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there are encounters with these black eyed children. It
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  Speaker 2: just reminded me of that. But black smeared around the eyes.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe that's a different form, but the
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  Speaker 2: black eyed children phenomena seems to be related to children
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  Speaker 2: claiming to be in trouble or needing help, and if
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  Speaker 2: you let them in the car or the house or
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: wherever they meet you, that's when they grab your soul.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Most people who talk about this stuff say that they
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: got a bad feeling and they noticed that they didn't
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: have any sclera in their eyes. Yeah, and all black.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: And that's that's why that tipped them off. Not to
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: do anything for these days, like dog.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Guys, just a run for your life, like that's not no.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: You don't want to help the demons because or the
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: nice fairies either, ps they could be cute.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: Don't do it.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Little havoc in your life, you know, Yeah, it was
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: the rest of your life.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I was listening to the Mysterious Universe and they were
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: talking about all of these fairy trees that they have
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: a really hard time getting these workers in England to
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: come cut these fairy trees down for highways or bypasses
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: or whatever. And they're like, yeah, you don't mess with them,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: and the people who do usually end up dying in
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: horrific ways.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: So and you have to like leave them little trinkets
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: if you ever start this, like they'll be like, hey,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: they're like a really bad neurotic girlfriend. They're like, hey,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: let me clean your house. And then they're like, now
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: you better give me a gift every damn day. So
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: just remember that, guys, it's not worth it. Get a housekeeper.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Iron is a surefire way of getting them to move on.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: So if you've got, you know, a pair of scissors,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: walk around the house with scissors. They don't like that.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Basically anything iron. And it's funny too because that goes
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: back into the mythology about the Tauata Dedaden where they
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: were scared off by the iron swords that I think
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: it was the Romans brought up there, and so it
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: goes back into this historical thing about you know, maybe
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: this native group in Ireland were pushed out by by iron.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: So it's like.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: You have that that trauma that we talked about, like
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: you know where you're born afraid of spiders because somebody
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: your great great grandma or something like that.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: You think, well, it's I think I think it's a
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: symbol sort of like the native peoples or the fairies
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: are you know, scared off by this certain element. And
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: in a lot of ways, I could see a big
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: crossover between you know, the Duata diden and are said
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: to be the fairy people. So there's I think there
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: was a linkage between them and the land that hasn't
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: gone away and probably has something to do with reincarnation
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: or how you know, they might have swapped souls, who knows.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, fairies are pretty resourceful. After a couple of
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: thousand years, I'll bet they had a pretty thriving society
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: of people they jumped into.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Hey, all I know is every time we make jokes,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: then you hear about how somebody made the supercomputer digging
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: and talking tonomes underneath their house.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: So whatever, I'm not going to rule out the fairies either.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: You know, it's well, what's the difference between a fairy
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: and some of these other spirits that we assume that
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: these people were talking to, you know, I mean, there's
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: there's that element there too. So I think if they
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: were in contact with the fairies and got very familiar
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: with them, got used to the gold, that they might
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: show up from now and then that ex girlfriend might
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: say all right, now give me your body, yep.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Or maybe they don't even have a choice, right, Maybe
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: they just open themselves up enough to be like, guess
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: what is happening today.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: It's going down.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've heard of people being taken over without
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: their permission, so you know, well.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: It's an interesting because there is the concept of these
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: like nature spirits, you know, and nature spirits generally try
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: to keep away from humans, but there are crossovers and
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: really interesting ones too, like the gnomes, these Tommy Knockers,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: these little people, all of these things in like this
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: under realm. That's sort of like, you know, if there
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: was a giant walking around and all we saw were legs,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: where we assumed that there was a you know, a
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: body and a head on top of that, especially if
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: it was ancient times. So maybe they don't regard us
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: the same way that we regard them, and therefore, you know,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: we don't see them.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: That's the true I'm very about the realms. You know,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Steiner talks about this. Lots of people talk about those
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: where we intermingle unknowingly. Maybe they know, but we don't know.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: It's all about what level you're on, right, So well,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I definitely subscribe to that.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: We had k Okay last week talking about the brownie
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: inside of one of his friend's houses, and you know,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: there's there's spirits all around. It's just people just don't attention.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: Well, the Jewish will tell you about it.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: They don't mess around in bathrooms and stuff because of this.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: They will talk all about how, you know, if you're
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: in a dirty quote unquote dirty place, get the heck
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: out of there, and how there's so many demons for person,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: and you know they're everywhere.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Movies. What time forgot? Well, I mean, Mormons have any
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: specific practices in relationship to nature spirits.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: So here's the thing.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I think maybe in Joseph's time there would have been
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of cool stuff about spirits.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: But Brigham he wasn't about that.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Life, and so he was just like, kill everything, kill
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: all the things that are fun and then no fun
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: people and no different colors and just all the bad
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: things and.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: Just yeah, make money. I don't know.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: He was kind of a dick, so yeah, he was
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: also hit it and quit it, like he didn't have
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: enough kids per.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: Wife, so saying, I mean, the giant asshole and want
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: a wife? Come on, Yeah, like what a little pervert. Yeah,
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: that just means he wasn't good at it.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, but yeah, after Brigham took it over,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: the magical stuff got far less and as they kept
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: going into politics, they were very much pushing down magical
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: coll ob the hell you say, we never heard about
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: any of that.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, uh, I.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Think people would join your church if you'd cut out
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: the bullshit.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: And I was shut up because then it would be honest.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: So you know, on some level, you've got simultaneous with
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: the Brigham Young and you know that takeover. In the
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: eighteen fifties, they had a big movement in America to
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: have these Ten Revivals, and they basically were trying to
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: exercise and get rid of any sort of Native folk beliefs.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: So it could be that they were trying to match
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: what the rest of Christian America was doing by getting
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: rid of all that magic stuff in their own church.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Well, I think the thing is is they just got
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: in the CIA and the presidents like they started really
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: hooking up to. I think it just went underground. I
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: think the top level has it. They started being very
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: good friends with Nazis, very good friends with like Warner
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: von Braun's. They started being like buddy buddy with all
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: these people.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: So it didn't go away.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: We know that because why is von Braun in a
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: theological movie for Mormons. That doesn't make any sense. So
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: if it went completely away, that wouldn't have happened. However,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: we know it did. So we see all these nice little,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: you know, connections to the magical stuff, but they hide
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: it and then they look creepy as hell, Like listen,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: it just looks creepy when you guys lie and say
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: what you know, especially like the co Op thing. It's
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: out there, like things are out there. You can't say
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: it didn't happen. That's stupid. Stop it. They also say
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: weird things like the toad story never happened, and that
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: those people hated Joseph. Here's the thing, Joseph's cousin married
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: that girl that was the brother wrote it the Willard
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Chase Sally Chase with the original Searstone that he wanted
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: to steal but didn't get his hands on. Look, she
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: married Nathan Smith that started Dartmouth College medical school and
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: was ran out of town for stealing dead bodies and
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: ran off to Gale to start their So I don't
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: care what you say. This is documented. These are documents
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: of historical proof. Like nobody knows that story. So I mean, yeah,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: uh oh.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: There's only two groups of people who would be interested
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: in body snatching, magicians and scientists. Yeah, I think there's
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: a crossover between them.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: Well all the doctor the new alchemy, let's not play.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: And then his other cousin that helped start Dartmouth Indian College,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: which was just like this whole teaching for basic priests
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: for the Native Americans. It wasn't an Indian college like
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: where they sent poor Peole.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: That's not it. It's like Jesuit training. Okay. His other cousin, Johnny.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Smith, was their teaching and was a rare books store owner,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: and he was this master of all these languages. But
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: believe me, they're poor farm people that never knew anything.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Why their great grandpa was an attorney, Like, come on.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: To bring that up. Joseph Smith's niece ran away from
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Utah and became the one female member of Bohemian Grove.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Because they because like knows, like that's why Crawley gives
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: his hat tips so much to Joseph though he hates
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: religions and it makes no damn sense.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: And what did he do? He wrote a whole big
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: thing about him being a moonchild because Joseph was born
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: in a call.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: You know, people don't know that story either, right, it
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: was a big deal. I think he was definitely planned.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: He's born on December twenty third. A lot of things
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: happened for him on the twenty third, you know if
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: you look back, and it's very mystical oriented. But like
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: back then, they had to lie about it and then
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: they just hang the people that told. Right, they're like,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: but she's the witch because his great grandpa did.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: Two witches. He hung in Salem. So you know, they lie.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: It's just lies, but it.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Seems like they're keeping it all for themselves, Like that's
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: the big purposes because that's why he's Yeah, his niece
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: was also she was the librarian for Bohemia Grove. She
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: got all of those books. I don't know about you,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: but I'd like to get my hands on anything from
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: the Bohemian Growth Library.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: Holy sh my gosh.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they put on a play about how they brainwashed
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: these immigrants and put them on Hawaii and created the
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: idea that there were tribes on Hawaii. It was an
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: uninhabited place and they put this stuff there and tricked
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: them into thinking that they were the natives. Well that's
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: a play that they made.
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: They owned half of Hawaii too.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Field owns property over there.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Mormons' own Hawaii, like for real, for real?
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: All the plates the angel needed them, they had he
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: had to get them back.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: He needed those. They are important.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just crazy though, that team up right there.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I think it was more because she said that she
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: was trying to escape the Mormons and trying to escape
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Brigham Young. But what if she was just working with them,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: What if she was a double agent. Oh, she was
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: just all that knowledge from Bohemian Grove back to.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: Utah, which would not surprise me.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're oh, they I promise you they're underneath the temple.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: What do you mean?
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: They got vaults too, don't push end. They got a
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: whole system. You know, here in Utah. People don't know this.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: There's a complete grid system of underground tunnels everywhere, and
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: it's all very easy to differentiate because it is on
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: a grid system. That's the one thing I'll give to them. Okay,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: they did a good job with the streets, but Capone
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: used to run Oden underground tunnels back when they had prohibition.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: This is like stuff people don't know. And even he said,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: you know what, the Mormons are too much for me.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: I'm getting out of here.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: They were. I mean, like, anytime you have these confrontations,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: you find out how intens they are. But right, I
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: think if you were to get a hold of these letters,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: you'd have to go to Bohemian Grove and they've got
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: files on her. I guarantee you if you get one
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: of those cooks to go through the files, you could
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: find out everything you want to know about early church history.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: That would be badass, oh my gosh. And then people
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: would die and then there would be a list. We
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: would all be on it. It would be bad, but
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: it would be maybe worth it. I might do it.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Ild I heard an interview with one of the cooks
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: from Bohemian Oh shit, and he was talking about the
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: artwork in there.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: It is so bizarre and like if he's still alive.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was still alive. He came on there anonymously.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: But it was kind of interesting because you know, the
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: one thing is that they didn't want you to talk
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: while you were there. After you're gone, it doesn't matter.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: So you got a lot of people that are going
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: to start talking about it because those are big ratings. Man,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Oh here.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: People want to know. People want to know this stuff.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: It's just like if you could go in any of
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: these mystical, magical places for a day, Like there's so
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: many to pick from, right, and we only know not
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: not even half the story, even those of us that
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: do all we can to research. There's just no way.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: And that's the sad part because, like you said, they
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: keep it for themselves and then they use the goyam
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: right for.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: Their magical power.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: And then the people are like, but we love them,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: but they're nice, and I'm like, they're probably hurting your life,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: you know, Like I mean, I'm just trying to help you.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: Like, let's not say.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Nick says it all the time, you do not know
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: these people. You not ever know any of your favorite politicians,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: any of your favorite celebrities. You can't know them, so
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: stop thinking you do.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: Yep, And it's impossible.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: And you can't ever know everything either, Like people are like, oh,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: you got.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: This one thing wrong, or oh where'd you get that from?
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Or oh that sounds ridiculous, blah blah blah, And I'm like, look,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I know what it sounds like. I didn't write it
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: plain and simple. You know, it's hard enough to figure out.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: And then you've got the obfuscation, like of like, okay,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: the Solomon stuff, you know, all of that's buried.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: They don't want that out. Very few people even know
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: what you're talking about. If you start talking about it,
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: they think you're nuts.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the Toad story, you know, they think
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: you're talking about Hoffman. They're like all these things. It's
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: not going to be there for you while you watch TV.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: It's buy your new shoes. Like that's not the way
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: it works, you know, right, So yeah, and we do
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: the best we can, but of course we're not going
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: to know anything either all the way, because how would.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: We right, you'd have to be there, and that's.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: I can't go back. It's too much.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: But that's the thing too, It's like all of these lives,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: like Elon Trump, all of these people, they all seem
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: to me to be like a kind of just a
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: big blank you know, we have no idea what they are.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: It's funny what's happening in the background, like games that
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: they play.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: I got a story. So this other podcast that I
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: helped start is called Timeline Earth. Originally it was called
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: the Friends Against Government podcast because they liked having fag
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: cast in their names. Friends against Government. It's a hilarious podcast.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: But these guys made up Joe Biden being a clone.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: They made it up. They were the first ones to
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: do it on their show. They were the first ones
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: to say it. Well, just last week you've got Trump
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: retweeting this thing about how Joe Biden is a clone
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: and how you know the original Joe Biden was killed
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, way before then, he was killed a
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: while ago.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: All of that stuff came from them. They're the first
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: ones to point it out. And now from from their
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: humble beginnings all the way up to Trump, they've had
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: this sort of domino effect and nobody's ever heard of
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Timeline Earth.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that happens to all of us unfortunately too.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Instead of doing the right thing, which to me is
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: very important. Like if I see somebody talking about something
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: that I don't know a lot about, like you headless,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I had you on and I'm like, hey, I don't
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: know a lot about this, will you come talk to
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: me about it? That's what you should do if you're working,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: you know, networking, right, that's smart. And then you make
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: new friends and then you can say, hey, I know
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: this girl she talks about and I can tell people
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: about you, and that's how it should be. But that's
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: not what happens, right. They go get their best friend
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: from next door and say, hey, read this paragraph about
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: being a Mormon or whatever, and then that's what they do.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: And same thing for your friends, yeah about politics or
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: clones or you know all that.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: So really it seems more of like what bigger show
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: are you going to cook for? Yeah, that's really all
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: it is.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: And it gets to the point where we know, you know,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: the truth gets lost in there, like I don't care
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: if people want to be friends and do their own
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: thing and their own network, and that's fine, but like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just not that way, you know, I just would
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: rather share it, right, like, yeah, I mean I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that's what we're supposed to do.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: That's kind of how you make advances, sharing information with
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: each other, trying to go you know, yeah, yeah, I
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: It's hard.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. What do you think about a never ending story?
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Breakdown on that?
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, we will be there. It will have
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: to be a three part story, surely, you know what.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: That's funny, that's funny. That's not putting, not putting your
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: own blest, not putting our own blast. But unfortunately that
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: was an episode me and List it did start a
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: while ago.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: When it because it never ended, right ending story, we
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: talked about it.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: I thought it at least, well, it seems like it
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: would have so much.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Princess Bride would be amazing.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, the Princess Bride is about the orphan No, that
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: would be fun.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, no, that's a good idea.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: I can read to you.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: There's tons of a cult symbolism and that shit. Oh
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: a lot of comedies actually have it in there, if
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: you don't take it as like well, like some of
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: the silly shit would make sense if you look.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: At it, a magical giant rodents farm boys with no parents.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Come on, think about the the image of the boy
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: being read to the story and going back and forth
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: between this fourth wall. You know, there's a lot of
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: different ways that they're talking about, kind of a mind
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: control situation there, you know.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: And he's on a journey, right, he's right at pubescent age.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: He's on his journey. So I mean the grandpa handing
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: down the knowledge. It's so it's so packed. That one's
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah, that one's a good one. And
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: speaking of spies and the Princess Bride and the cabbage babies,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: you know, Charles Luring Brace from an unknown secret society.
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: I got called out for calling him a freemason.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Oh I was wrong. It was a secret society so
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: secret it shall not be named. Actually, and then they
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: were like, oh, and by the way, he was a
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: spy look away, but he was benevolent. He was a pariah, okay.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: And there's so much crossover between the Mormon Church and
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: well it's not Kawanas. What is it. The Rotary Club?
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: Oh, the Rotary Club.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Justin and me have spoke
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: that gets into the weeds.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: Well anything I have to do with brotherhoods.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Let's be real, Like this Mormon theology in the very
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: White Brotherhood is very.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Is the brotherhood of all these different religious groups coming
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: together and then trading who gets to be in charge
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: of these different things? Like how is that not better known?
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: This is like a conspiracy of religions coming together under
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: this one banner.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: And under the banner, under the banner of.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: What I know? Do you know?
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I don't, Well, what's the one club you can join
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: that you don't have to pick your God?
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: You tell me, there you go.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: But it's so funny. It's a rotary because they rotate
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: the different leadership positions between these different churches, and then
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: they all act in unison.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: You know what I think Justin Justin had even said this,
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: and I was like, damn, I didn't even look at
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: it like this, even the whole rotary thing, it's just
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: one gear in a big machine.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, and they're just it's just a way for them
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: to sell. This is how Justin put it. Big comfy
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: red chairs, two high up individuals, which was organized by
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: not a man, a woman, Beverly Bruff Campbell.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: Who sold these seats at the.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Mormon Tabernacle so that mobsters and gangsters and politicians and
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: the Pope could all sit by one another and be like,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: what up, bruh? And then they talked during the whole
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: damn thing, and they're not there to listen to the music.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: Get real.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: That's on. That's perfect cover.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: It's a good one. It's a good one. I mean,
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: you know, you can link it back to a lot
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: of things.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: And then now I'm seeing, you know, the keyhole design
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: for the Mormon Church in Salt Lake City, the keyhole
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: design for the Vatican, and on the up and coming
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: which I just got my FBI book docs today on
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: on Nassas, the on Nassas Foundation keyhole design from you
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: know this Greek, right, this Greek guy, he would know.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: He was taught a lot of stuff when he was young.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Well, the keys, the keys and the keyhole, I think
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: are very important, and often they are. The Catholic flag,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: you got the two cross keys on it, and that
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: relates directly back to Hecate who had the key to
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: the underworld, you know.
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: And Saint Peter's holding what the keys to the church.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Peter means the rock. There's something to that as well.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: So the rock and the keys, it's like opening up
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: the earth. The vault.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: The two ice stone is a rock. The Mormons have
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: a rock. They all have a rock.
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: So I'm just saying.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: They know stuff will never I mean, we can try
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: and I will forever, but we'll never know at all.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: There's no way.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: But they are all in on it for sure. One
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: hundred and sometimes they fight, you know, a little warring factions,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: and that's where people die.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, Knights Templar and the Mormons were fighting
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: in Mexico.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: Yes, the whole Mexico Mormons.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: You thought the Mormons here were like they made this
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: whole show here for the Mormons and bring them young,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: such a bad and look at the no, no, no, no,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: those people that went more south.
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: Are terrifying nick their own children. Yeah.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: You remember when we did the Knights Templar episode, the
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: guy who was fighting against those Templars was a Mormon.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, yes, Oh my gosh. Well, I will
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: tell you anytime they start flexing, and Trump does it too.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Trump starts talking about Tesla's stuff and and he does
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: these little flexes bringing up his uncle John. And that's
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: about rocks too, man, like they knew some stuff.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: And I mean, I don't know if any of this
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: stuff in Washington right now is genuine. It seems so planned. Yeah,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: it really does. I think they want the Democrats to
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: win in the mid terms.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: I even think part of what Elon's doing right now
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: is that rises fucking stocks back up because they thanked right.
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: Probably, Well, he's just got the black eye ritual. Let's
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: be let's keep our eye out. You know, Oh, my
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: kid punched me in the eye.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Well that's weird because we all know there's the black
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: eye for.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: So many many people, and it's always in the same
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: spot or like a little band aid in the same
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: fucking spot.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm yep, And there's always some weird like reason,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: oh my cud, your kid has a big damn hand,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know about that.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: But okay, you know, I.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Know above the eye you can jam a ice pick
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: in and then give somebody in front of the body.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: But I'm not sure what the purpose of all these
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: black eyes would be. You know, I see all of
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: the people have them, but I'm not sure exactly how
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: that's connected to a drenochrome. Like people try to make
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: that inference, but I probably shouldn't say that on YouTube.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, well, actually let's just close Juice forty five
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: minutes thirty.
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but thank.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: You guys for coming. Thank you Chat. We'll see you
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: again next time. Thank you Heidi, thank you Nick.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: You see later later