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Agents on Agents on Agents on Agents (w/ Rekha Shankar) · Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to artists on artists on artists on artists. Boy,
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  Speaker 1: do we have a panel for you today.
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  Speaker 2: History's screenwriting Expert panel of new voices in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 3: Castumes are correct.
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  Speaker 4: Buck Mary cal wide shot two shot, close up.
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  Speaker 1: This is artist on artists on.
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  Speaker 5: Artists on artists.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know why they call it show business? I
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  Speaker 1: always wondered that.
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  Speaker 6: Welcome back to artists on artists on artists on artists.
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  Speaker 6: This week we have a very special inside look. You've
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  Speaker 6: heard of actors, but have you heard of the people
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  Speaker 6: who represent them.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking agents, and we're talking to agents. These people
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  Speaker 2: get the job done, close deals and help their clients
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  Speaker 2: book the movers and shakers of the industry.
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  Speaker 5: This town wouldn't run without agents. They are the most
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  Speaker 5: important part of the industry. And they told this at themselves,
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  Speaker 5: so you know it's true.
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  Speaker 6: Let's listen in on their conversation. Hi, everybody, my name
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  Speaker 6: is Nancy Nancy Greenberg. I am a non union commercial agent.
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  Speaker 7: I'm Kelsey Mamplow, and I represent a good deal of TikTokers,
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  Speaker 7: the ones that make food on counters.
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  Speaker 8: Hey, ii ya, it's Greg Johnny. I represent comedy Comedy comedy, comedy.
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  Speaker 8: I'm so happy to be here.
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  Speaker 5: It's so nice to be here with everybody. My name
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  Speaker 5: is Lenn Howardson. I represent a lot of singers and
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  Speaker 5: songwriters in the film space. It is just a pleasure
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  Speaker 5: to see you guys.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, what's up? I'm Chip Donovan and I represent tweens.
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  Speaker 8: Fuck man, Does anybody have a light? This is a
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  Speaker 8: great group, got it?
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  Speaker 5: I got a cigar lighter here. Do you want to
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  Speaker 5: use it? That'll do great? Come on over, anybody else?
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  Speaker 5: I have some some Cubans if you If anybody wants
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  Speaker 5: some Romeo.
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  Speaker 6: My assistant is getting me a kombucha. Katie, Katie, can
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  Speaker 6: you get me a kombucha? Does anyone else want a kombucha?
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  Speaker 2: No, I'll just get my Yeah, I'll get my assistant
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  Speaker 2: to do it. Hey, Greg, Greg, could you uh? Could
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  Speaker 2: you get me a Sorry?
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  Speaker 5: Not Greg?
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  Speaker 2: Not you Greg? You do comedy? My assistant?
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, I know you weren't talking to me.
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  Speaker 5: That's funny.
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  Speaker 2: I've got a vape. If anybody wants a vape, I'll
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  Speaker 2: take a vape. Here you go.
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  Speaker 7: I don't like to do anything that could screw with
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  Speaker 7: my palette because I gotta taste all the food that
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  Speaker 7: my people make.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes you are fucking kidding you taste that ship?
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  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I gotta taste it all. Otherwise, how do
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  Speaker 7: you think I book? How do you think I get
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  Speaker 7: people on my roster?
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  Speaker 8: I thought it was their looks, because let me say,
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  Speaker 8: all your clients are hot.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, well, I can't say that. You know, I'm not
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  Speaker 7: trying to get arrested again, but I can't say.
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  Speaker 1: That you learned.
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  Speaker 3: It's a new business.
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  Speaker 5: It's business, can I say? Yeah? I also have no
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  Speaker 5: opinion on any of my artists looks anybody. I have
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  Speaker 5: no opinion on what they look like or you know,
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  Speaker 5: any sort of sex appeal they have. I have no
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  Speaker 5: opinion on that.
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  Speaker 6: My only opinion on what my artists look like is
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  Speaker 6: whether or not they can book a Snapchat commercial. If
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  Speaker 6: they have it, they have it. If they don't, they
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  Speaker 6: don't see you, goodbye.
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  Speaker 5: And yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Legally speaking, I have no ability to have an opinion
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  Speaker 2: on any of the tweens I represent off the record,
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  Speaker 2: though I've got opinions. I've definitely oh.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, yeah, we definitely want to keep that off
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  Speaker 7: the record for sure.
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  Speaker 5: So I have a here, a question here from the fishbowl.
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  Speaker 5: This is a good question for you. I know, agents
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  Speaker 5: being asked questions. I mean I actively avoid answering questions.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, should I refer this to my fake email address?
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  Speaker 2: Like yeah, God give me.
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  Speaker 5: A like that's good. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: This question is how do I get signed by an agent?
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  Speaker 5: What?
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 5: Do you guys have any advice on on what you're
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  Speaker 5: looking for when you're signing. I will say I've I've
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  Speaker 5: actually a little secret of mine. I've never signed anyone.
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  Speaker 7: Oh okay, because earlier you should have made it sound
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  Speaker 7: like you had a bunch of artists that you didn't
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  Speaker 7: have opinions on their looks.
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  Speaker 4: I do have artists. I did not sign them.
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  Speaker 5: I kind of got them through other means and dowed them,
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  Speaker 5: you know, through kind of uh. I got grandfather and
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  Speaker 5: into a few of them at the agency, and a
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  Speaker 5: couple of them were gifted to me for birthdays. But
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  Speaker 5: other than that, I actually have never signed a single client.
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  Speaker 5: You know. I like to say they just show up,
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  Speaker 5: like like like fire an apartment, babies, the.
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  Speaker 1: Word of mouth everybody be cool situation.
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  Speaker 5: It is a little everybody be cool And that's musicians
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  Speaker 5: for you. You know, I represent a lot of musicians.
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  Speaker 5: I represent probably three fifths of the artists in the
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  Speaker 5: second Trolls soundtrack.
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  Speaker 7: So wow, and you're talking about the big the Big
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  Speaker 7: five that are in there, there are the artists on
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  Speaker 7: the side that like, we aren't thinking about that. Maybe
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  Speaker 7: you represented.
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  Speaker 5: I'm talking specifically about the three of the Big five.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah wow. So that's deep pain. Fergie and of course
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  Speaker 5: uh and Paula. No, not Katie. I wish she's my
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  Speaker 5: she's my wife signed with you.
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  Speaker 6: Everybody making billions of dollars, they're all just sort of
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  Speaker 6: an agreement.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know. And what I like to say
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  Speaker 5: is deals are done in the heart. That's what I say.
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  Speaker 7: Wow, you're not you're nicer than me.
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  Speaker 1: Thing, I'll tell you that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, how do you guys sign clients for me?
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  Speaker 7: It's all about counter size, spread ability, and layers. We're
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  Speaker 7: looking for stuff that we're looking for big counters. I
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  Speaker 7: don't want to see a small counner. I'm sorry. I'm
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  Speaker 7: sorry New York City apartments. I'm sorry. It's just I'm
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  Speaker 7: not gonna get the good, the good juice from that.
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  Speaker 7: And then we need some spreadable things. I want to
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  Speaker 7: see you make a PB and J I want to
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  Speaker 7: see you make bean dip. I want to see you
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  Speaker 7: make a lasagna.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know when you say spreadable, you mean just
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  Speaker 8: like the knife spreading the ship.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you know. Sometimes, you know, sometimes people send
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  Speaker 7: me unsolicited my golf stuff, you know, their materials.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, I tried to beat corn. My corn that doesn't
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  Speaker 9: spread on a counter, just rolls around. Make a corn
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  Speaker 9: on a table, that's crazy. Somebody sent me Graham crackers.
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  Speaker 9: Made it all crumbs.
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  Speaker 7: I don't watch this. I don't want to watch this.
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  Speaker 2: You kind of have a test. You can have a
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  Speaker 2: test to PB and J. Yeah. Yeah, the one bean.
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  Speaker 7: Dip is a good wine. But you know, sometimes I
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  Speaker 7: like for you to surprise it. I'm getting bean dips
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  Speaker 7: all day year, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: It gave me something surprising too. And maybe come up
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  Speaker 7: with your own original dish, you know.
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  Speaker 6: Kelsey, I'm very curious because I was showed a TikTok
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  Speaker 6: trend of it's a new way to make pasta where
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  Speaker 6: you throw a block of feta, a bunch of tomato, everything,
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  Speaker 6: you mix it in a pot and you stick it
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  Speaker 6: in the oven.
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  Speaker 1: Do any of your clients do that? Where do they stand?
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  Speaker 7: That's the stove. People, I'm strictly counters.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, so if it if it, if it goes into
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  Speaker 2: an oven, your hands up? I don't really tell son
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  Speaker 2: is your test?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 3: You make a living getting.
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  Speaker 8: Ten percent off of tiktoks that are only food based,
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  Speaker 8: that are spreads, spreads.
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  Speaker 5: On catt Yeah, Kelsey, I know you're not supposed to
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  Speaker 5: tell us how the sausage is made, but I gotta.
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  Speaker 7: Know what I don't don't.
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  Speaker 3: Don't you have a family, family?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, sorry, it's not sausage. I know you don't
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  Speaker 5: speak Okay. I know you can't tell us how the
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  Speaker 5: how the spaghetti on the counter is made, but how
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  Speaker 5: you make it on a commission? How much is war?
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  Speaker 7: This is crazy to me because sometimes some people make
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  Speaker 7: something a little more creative, like that lasagna. Right, making
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  Speaker 7: alazania without an oven, that's that's something to talk about.
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  Speaker 7: That's something you talk about at work. For sure, you
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  Speaker 7: make alasana without an oven?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't think I would eat that. I
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  Speaker 2: think I would steer here.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you would think you would think you have old
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  Speaker 6: shredded parmesan cheese.
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  Speaker 1: Most people would not.
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  Speaker 7: You would dick right for sure?
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  Speaker 2: Who are some of your clients. You got, who do
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  Speaker 2: you have?
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  Speaker 7: Oh my god, I got Tommy foods like Betsy Beans, Betsy.
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  Speaker 3: Beans, Betsy Beans. I did a general with Betsy Beans.
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  Speaker 7: Oh you did?
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  Speaker 8: Yes, yes, I have to, you know, hit a quota
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  Speaker 8: for generals every once in a while. And Betsy Beans
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  Speaker 8: walked into my office a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 3: I mean inherent talent.
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  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I mean I had I anytime I any
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  Speaker 8: time I meet with clients, I make them h do
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  Speaker 8: the script for Who's on first?
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  Speaker 7: Wow? Yeah, no I cannot.
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  Speaker 1: That's funny.
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  Speaker 7: I've never totally heard Betsy speak. I've only seen her
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  Speaker 7: make things on counter how'd she do?
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  Speaker 3: She was all right?
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  Speaker 8: You can tell she was green, you can?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well I will say.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I love clients that can diversify like that.
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  Speaker 2: Give me somebody that originally goes out for comedy. Yea,
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  Speaker 2: Betsy Beans bombs it and switches immediately to stove based
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  Speaker 2: and and I guess a counter based.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. I don't deal with her stove stuff,
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  Speaker 7: so that's not me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you have another she has another whole age.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's kind of like what I guess, Like Nancy,
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  Speaker 7: you do commercials and that's like different than or something.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Kelsey, I was going to bring up you know,
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  Speaker 6: we do share that client, Arian art Chokes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and she in a night.
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  Speaker 6: She's been a real thorn on my side lately because
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  Speaker 6: she refuses to change her last name to something normal.
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  Speaker 6: So I'll send her out for you know, these instacart ads,
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  Speaker 6: these these credit card ads, and she's going in there
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  Speaker 6: as Arian Artichokes. I'm like, say Joanes, say last name,
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  Speaker 6: say Gomet.
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  Speaker 4: Say whatever your name again, what's her name?
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  Speaker 7: Arian Artichokes.
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  Speaker 5: I signed her too.
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  Speaker 7: You signed someone?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well no, I didn't sign her, but
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  Speaker 5: I looked at my list and she's on it. I
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  Speaker 5: just found out.
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  Speaker 7: And you know, there was a I thought when I
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  Speaker 7: signed her, I thought she was Arian Artichoke because I thought,
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  Speaker 7: but there was a crawdma my piece of paper, so
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  Speaker 7: I was I was also surprised, I honestly.
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  Speaker 5: To be honest, To be honest, I thought that she
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  Speaker 5: was already a grande until we were talking and I'm
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  Speaker 5: realizing I would didn't even read the last name.
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  Speaker 6: Oh wow, wow, you must have been in for a surprise.
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  Speaker 4: That is that is my trait. That is what happens
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  Speaker 4: to me. I love the surprise.
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  Speaker 7: Wait a minute, I got a question for Chip.
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  Speaker 10: How do yep?
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  Speaker 7: How do you get hey get tweens? How do you
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  Speaker 7: sign on tweets?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, there is like a lot of math
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  Speaker 2: and kind of a lot of strategy behind finding the
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  Speaker 2: right tween. You know, you've got to be prepared to
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  Speaker 2: look at a lot of tweens, and you've got to
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  Speaker 2: be prepared to go through a lot of hoops because
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  Speaker 2: you know these people aren't you know, they're not legal adults.
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  Speaker 2: So what am I doing? I'm hanging out. I'm waiting
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  Speaker 2: at malls.
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, are you a mall agent?
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  Speaker 2: I'm definitely not a mall agent. I'm definitely not a
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  Speaker 2: mall agent because I do represent you know, because you
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  Speaker 2: don't represent all pretty No.
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  Speaker 7: As if as if a wall sign with me.
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  Speaker 1: Only for a mall, as if I could put a
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  Speaker 1: mall into any commercial for a mall is.
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  Speaker 7: Gonna make peedup.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you this.
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  Speaker 6: Will you put something in my schedule? Will you schedule
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  Speaker 6: thirty minutes of laughing for me right now?
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  Speaker 8: Schedule in general with the King of Prussia, mall I'm
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  Speaker 8: telling you this, Mall's compared to some of my clients,
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  Speaker 8: probably can book a little better.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, So anyway, how I book clients is I
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  Speaker 2: go to Mall's. You know, I'm constantly looking for good talent,
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  Speaker 2: and when you find it, you know you found it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're talking about diversifying. I love clients that
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  Speaker 2: have diversified kind of their portfolio. Like, I don't want
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  Speaker 2: a kid who's just done acting. I want a kid
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  Speaker 2: who plays soccer. I want a kid who plays baseball.
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  Speaker 2: I want a kid who plays the violin and mostly sports.
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  Speaker 2: I want a kid water Polo is huge right now,
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  Speaker 2: and what I'm trying to do is get these kids
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  Speaker 2: connected with the right projects. So if I have a project,
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  Speaker 2: oh here is a two line part on that's so
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  Speaker 2: Raven's reboot, I'm going to find the right kid for it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Oh he's playing polo. I'm gonna go find
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  Speaker 2: a young eleven or twelve year old playing polo and
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  Speaker 2: figure out how to book them. You know, so I've
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  Speaker 2: signed you know, at this point, probably eleven tho tweens.
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  Speaker 5: Smokes.
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  Speaker 3: That's your client list.
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  Speaker 4: That's how long.
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  Speaker 2: They only last about two years and then I have
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  Speaker 2: to let them go stick.
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  Speaker 5: So you don't have anybody in for the long haul.
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  Speaker 2: I've got I've got two clients that are still in
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  Speaker 2: for the long haul. One is thirteen and I just
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  Speaker 2: love her. Her name is Natasha Pants. I think she
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  Speaker 2: has a gift. And then one is a forty seven
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  Speaker 2: year old Rick Geffrien. He is a theater actor.
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  Speaker 5: I really believe in it.
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  Speaker 2: Of the geff and playoffs. Wow, when crosses your when
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  Speaker 2: it crosses your deck, you got to take it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, what did the how did the geffen cross the road?
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  Speaker 5: He signed? He signed a contract?
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, God.
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  Speaker 7: That is the funniest joke I've ever.
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  Speaker 5: I know, I know, and I wrote it down about
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  Speaker 5: twenty five years ago. I use it. I use it
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  Speaker 5: in different situations.
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  Speaker 3: You got something, Glenn.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, Nancy, how are you booking clients? How are
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  Speaker 2: you picking them?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, like you, it's a numbers game, you know.
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  Speaker 6: I'm trying to rack up all the non union kiddos
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  Speaker 6: that I can, except they're adults. Lately, I have been
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  Speaker 6: going to sort of tourist buses where they'll bust people
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  Speaker 6: in from other states and I just sort of sit
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  Speaker 6: there and I wait and they'll pop out one by one,
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  Speaker 6: one by one, and I'll just ask for headshots. I'll
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  Speaker 6: give them my card and I'll say, hey, I'll get
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  Speaker 6: you one audition a year.
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  Speaker 1: How does that sound?
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  Speaker 6: And they're related, they're so stoked. I'm the best thing
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  Speaker 6: that ever happened to them.
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  Speaker 7: That's nice.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're Yeah. I mean, do you think they're
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  Speaker 2: related because they don't fully understand what's going on or
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  Speaker 2: what your I think.
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  Speaker 1: That's a solid part of it.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, I think that a decent amount of my client
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  Speaker 6: list are people who don't understand what's happening.
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  Speaker 7: I was gonna say, I've always had a question with commercials.
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  Speaker 7: Sometimes commercial audition, you know, the person doesn't speak. Say
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  Speaker 7: it's somebody riding a teacup ride and it's a Disney
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  Speaker 7: World commercial or something. Yeah, how do you do how
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  Speaker 7: do you watch an audition for it? How do you
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  Speaker 7: ask somebody audition for that?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you would be surprised, you'd be surprised at how
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  Speaker 1: not to do that because a lot of people don't
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  Speaker 1: know how to do it. You know, you get.
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  Speaker 6: They we send out the directions. You know, it's walk
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  Speaker 6: in front of the screen, act like you're on a
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  Speaker 6: tea cup ride and walk off, and you know how
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  Speaker 6: many people can't do that?
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  Speaker 7: So simple, it's as simple as in the instructions.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would imagine Nancy. I I was thinking, you know,
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  Speaker 5: have you ever run into the situation which is maybe
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  Speaker 5: an occupational hazard for how you sign your clients that
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  Speaker 5: you say, hey, we got a Horizon commercial for you,
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  Speaker 5: and they say, oh, I was just visiting. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I live in Reno. I was, I was in LA
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  Speaker 5: for the weekend, and you know I can't go to that.
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  Speaker 5: Does that ever happen to you?
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  Speaker 1: It happens all the time, all the time.
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  Speaker 6: I'll give them the dates, I'll give them the location,
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  Speaker 6: and they'll simply forget.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: They'll simply that's I gotta say. Just a little note
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: for actors. If you're listening, book out. Book out with
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: your agent. If you live Reno, book out, just book out.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: The people who live in Reno never book out. The
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: people who live in Alabama never book out. And it's
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: crazy because you know, they get these great deals where
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: I'll say, hey.
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: You booked this commercial. It shoots in Sacramento. You're gonna
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: make one hundred dollars.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Fly on out. Here and they won't do it. They
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: won't and it's just because they don't want it enough,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: Some people don't want it enough.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: And that's some people just don't want it enough.
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: That's a question for you, guys. What do you do
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: with a client who doesn't want it enough? What do
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: you do? Well?
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Greg, what about you?
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I fucking do. I bring them
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: back to the basics.
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: I send him a little PDF called Who's On First.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: And I get him back in the gang.
• 17:01
  Speaker 10: Baby.
• 17:02
  Speaker 8: It's just like I mean, Glenn, it's similar to Mozart.
• 17:05
  Speaker 8: We learned from the greats. And when I have a
• 17:07
  Speaker 8: client that it's just hitting up against some new material
• 17:10
  Speaker 8: and I'm losing I'm losing motivation and I'm losing them.
• 17:13
  Speaker 8: I'm losing them in the sight of these big paychecks
• 17:16
  Speaker 8: coming in. I'm like, we gotta get you back to
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: the basics.
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: And you find that that that usually works. That's traditionally
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: a two person script, right, but you find it works for.
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: One person, a very fast paced it's a great monologue.
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: Yes, in a way, it's a great monologue.
• 17:35
  Speaker 8: I find it's a great solo piece, a great ensemble piece,
• 17:41
  Speaker 8: I find that the piece is malleable, and that's why
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: I use it.
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, any amount of it's very yeah, any tone, and
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: it can be very tragic if you look out it
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: through the lens of someone who has Alzheimer's.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: You know, first who is who is?
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: You look at it from the baseball you know, and
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: it could be from any.
• 18:04
  Speaker 8: High concept high concept guys. It works for my concepts
• 18:07
  Speaker 8: of it's all over. So I'll say, I go back
• 18:08
  Speaker 8: to the basics. And also, I never have a problem sitting.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Somebody down in my office. We have we have a
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: talk because I wrap.
• 18:15
  Speaker 8: I don't know, let's talk about different types of client
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: tells here, because I rap clients bringing in six figures.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Off one day.
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: So so it's it's they lose.
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: Sight and the only thing that will get them back
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: is going back to the basics.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, I I've I've definitely run into that,
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: I uh lucked into representing this woman Adele. I don't
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: know if you've ever heard.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Of her, Yeah for sure, Yeah, yeah, I think I've
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: heard of adel Yeah, a woman.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys heard of her. She is a woman
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: and she sings good.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: A right, right, that's ringing a bell.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I you know. I no longer represent her. But
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: when I was representing her, it was difficult because she'd
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: bring in a song and I would say, I just
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: don't get it. That's what I'd say, over and over.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: I just don't It doesn't ring a belt. I can't
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: take it in.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: It was a white noise for me. And that's when
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: I realized she was the right client for me. Right
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: because for some reason she wasn't registering with me. You
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: let her go. It was mutual, it was it certainly was.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: She She did tell me, you know, this isn't working out,
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: and I said, I, you know, somebody told me. That's
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: what she said on the phone, and my assistant had
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: to kind of transcribe it because I couldn't hear her.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know what was happening.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: It's just an issue. Maybe that she was on mute,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: you couldn't hear the song that she was singing, or.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: We who's to say. Maybe the entire time I represented her,
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: my computer was on mute. I don't know, and some.
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: Clients that's an occupational hazard. Unfortunately, it's you know.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: My Lenovo usually comes through really well. I have a
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: Lenovo computer. It's the best computer that is out there,
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: and it has a touchscreen. But the problem is if
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: you touch it too hard, it turns the entire screen
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: Blue's actually have to shut it down, and it just
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: it could be difficult. Have you guys ever gone through that.
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: With my Lenovo? Yeah, for sure.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, with my Lenovo it's the same way.
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah. I was gonna say. This is actually another kind
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: of tip for actors, is you know, keep in mind
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: that sometimes we're just not listening to it because it's
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: on mute, and you got to kind of prepare for that.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: You guys have to be ready.
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: In fact, you have to impress us. You know, there's
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: no excuses. Oh, your agent's computer is on mute.
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: You have to deal with.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: That break through.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: Do you break.
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: Through the break I'll tell you. I'll tell you this,
• 20:38
  Speaker 8: I I I find I tell my clients. Oh, sometimes
• 20:41
  Speaker 8: you're not the right type, right, It's not about your talent,
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: it's also about our Lenovo mutes.
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: M Sometimes you send it in at a time when
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: my Lenovo is muted. Now that's just not a match
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: made in Ovan.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: Sometimes my Lenovo crashes and so I can't look at
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: your headshot and if you send me a headshot during
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: the time where the screen is blue, I'm sorry, you're
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: not getting that job.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, unless we're booking Blue Man Group.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: You know, we all book the Blue Man by the way.
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: Actually considered a counter It's considered a counter the counterwork.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: We all. That's the last time I saw all of
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: us together in the same room was when we were
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: negotiating the contracts for the Blue Man Group.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: And that was a tough day. I think that was
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: a really tough day for.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Talking about contract day, my contract.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: There were tweens in the in the Blue Man Group.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't think so legally, there shouldn't be.
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: No it's in this summer man, you think. Man, but
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: it's anything.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: It's boys, it's young girls, it's whatever you want.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I had a dog go out for the Blue Man Group.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I remember that.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Let's talk contracts, let's talk negotiations.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: Favorite.
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: Oh man, this is my this is the passion. This
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: is this is when you get a couple of agents
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: all together. Oh my god, I will never forget.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: I had some agents over, some comedy agents over for
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: dinner party and Johnny Knoxville.
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: Terrific people don't know that fantastic agents.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: He's a great agent.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: He represents all the other jack ass.
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: Do you think they got the movie?
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: He's a great guy.
• 22:19
  Speaker 8: So I had a couple of those people over and
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: who else, ah name names, Sandra.
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: D I had okay, send me homemade.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, they don't know classic Hollywood, Am I right?
• 22:39
  Speaker 8: And uh, corduroy man, I know.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: The agent just for corduroy pants and all all models
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: that way.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: But anyway, I have these people over.
• 22:50
  Speaker 8: We're having dinner, and then the dinner ends, right, and
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: someone brings out Katan or something, and what do you
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: fucking know? We're not playing contan two hours in with
• 22:58
  Speaker 8: our pino noirs.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: We're we are. We are negotiating contracts for fun.
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you give each other scenarios, you negotiate fake mold contracts.
• 23:10
  Speaker 8: And I'm like, look at this. You put a bunch
• 23:12
  Speaker 8: agents in a room. I wouldn't be surprised by the
• 23:14
  Speaker 8: end of this. If these people are watching us, we're
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: gonna start negotiating.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: I want to do it right now for fun. Let's
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: let's make up a contract for fun.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Let's this is my favorite game.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: I am hard for this.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: This is awesome, Oh god, okay, I'll give it. Let's
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: say you've got three eleven or twelve year old kids
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: who play soccer usually, and two of them were boys.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Their voices dropped yet Yeah, let's say one of them's.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Voice that affects it. That affects the number.
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: They playing grass or like marble, Like are they doing
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: it on a field or is it kind of like
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: a kitchen island.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: Situation and they're playing soccer on marble. Let's say they're
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: playing on marble.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Let's make it interesting. Let's let's get everybody is so
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: they're playing soccer on Marble. Let's say a big movie
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: comes through and they're rebooting I don't know this SpongeBob
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: SquarePants movie, and they say, we want these kids for
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: the soccer sce Scenekay, what are you telling the kids?
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: What are you telling Spongebod SquarePants movie?
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: This is like a math problem.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, and I'll give you the I'll abcd. Okay, here's
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: here's my offer. I'm SpongeBob SquarePants and I go, hey,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I want those I want those tweens. I want those
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: tweens in my movie. How would I pay you thirty
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars for all.
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: Okay, I go firstly, these are three separate kids. They
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: got three separate contracts. You don't lump them all in.
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: What if one that's a problem, that's one off. One's
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: a thinker, not on my count, No way.
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if if I were in their shoes, I would
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: you know, I negotiate for like you said, then I
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: negotiate for them individually. I would open strong with a
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: fee of three hundred dollars apiece, and anything anything above
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: that is you know, it's a bonus.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: And I'm gonna come in and I'm gonna say I
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: need them to control the rights to their own voices.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: So I need to make sure that nobody owns the voices.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: And that includes remixes, and that includes memes, that.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Includes TikTok clips.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: So if their voice is taken out and added to
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: some little song, some doja cat thing, i'ma do or whatever,
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: and it's put on TikTok, we get a percentage of
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: every single time that song is used.
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And then I'm also gonna get a commitment of
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: eighteen songs to be put in the show.
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: I'll come straight in right under that, and I'll say
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: I want toy rights. I ain't doing shit all my
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: Adam Sandler movies. I need toy rights up at the front.
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: Wow. And do those movies get toys?
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: No, but it's good just in case toys.
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but but I got that one there. I got
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: a Hubie Halloween stuffed animal.
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: Uncut, A cool toy.
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: Oh that was a fidget spinner. It was a uncut
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: Gems fidget spinner. And thank god you never fucking I
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: have a post it about my computer in my office.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: It says, don't forget about the toys.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I think I have that spanglish fairy that flies.
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: God.
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: That was That was a close one. I almost thought
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: this is a TAILI one movie. Why would we have toys?
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: Thank god I did that.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: And of course the Punchdruck love bop it.
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: Oh, I love that classic.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, we did a deal with the dollars.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: But that shit, love it it drunkend.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: So anyway, do you guys want to hear what actually happened?
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Because that was actually a real life story that happens.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Let's hear it.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: Let's hear it.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm representing these three kids playing soccer. A guy
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: comes up says, I want those three kids in this
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: SpongeBob Square Beds movie. I'll give you thirty thousand and total.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I say, fuck you, get out of my sight six
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: million apiece or we walk right now. He says, okay,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I'm moving on. And we didn't close it, so it's
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: all right. You know, you don't win them all. It
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: was kind of sad for those kids because they are
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: very poor.
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but that's another trick of the trade. Like if
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: you're an actor, if you're a child out there, just
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: keep in mind. You know, we don't sometimes make the deal,
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: and that's just something you got to push through.
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: And another thing I would say to a struggling actor
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: out there is if you can try to be rich,
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: try to come from as hard as you can.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: It makes our job so much easier. It makes it
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: helps us so much.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Of it'll make you more calm too in the room.
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: Right, And if you have to go run out to
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: your barista job because you need to pay the rent,
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: I can't send you to audition for a commercial for tampons.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I can't do that.
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I gotta say too. You know, if
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: you're not able to spend the time kind of like
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: slipping and sliding sauces all over your counter because you're like, guys,
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: kind of waste all the sauce or whatever. You know,
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: those sauce costs money. I don't know what to tell you.
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: You know, practice takes, practice thinks perfect. You know.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I also feel like counter space in general costs a
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: lot of money to have kind of a floating island.
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: Talking about this all that. I'm at UTI United Industry
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: and we're talking about this all the time there. Counter
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: space huge.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, love your company, Love you your
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: company huge.
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: I know some guys at U t I and I'll
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: say I think I started up at ut I, And
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: that'd be a fun question for everybody, uh.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: I know, the beginning of an.
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: Agent's career always starts next to a copier or a
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: fax machine.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: So let's all talk about where we got our first gig.
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: I started at the great and wondrous ut I.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: You know, I started, and I'm still working at the
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: Industry Business Society I b S. And I am so
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: happy to be there still. That's how I got so
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: many clients, because they've had I b S on their
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: roster for a long time and I willed into it.
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, amazing well, I of course started out as an
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: assistant at st D, which is as we know, Star
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: Total domination.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: You know, I've been uh with tweens for actually quite
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: a long time. I started at People's Organization of Youth POOEY,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: and you know, they were great, they were great, they
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: were not exactly what I was looking for. I'm glad
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I finally went independent. But you know, POOEY is great. Yeah,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: and I know a lot of people still there. We
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: have tons of connections and yeah, there's.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Some great people at POOEY.
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: There's oh some of my best friends are at POOY.
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: You know, I mean the relationships between agents, it's it's
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: so interconnecting it. You know, everybody knows somebody. So for me,
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: I was at Huge People Venturized HPV. That's where I started.
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: Because my field is relatively new, counter counter TikTokers, you know.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Doing relatively I feel like brand new or has it
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: is it? Does it have a nice history yet that
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know about it.
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: There's been a history, it's just never been filmed of
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: people making stuff on their counters and like cooking and
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: things like that.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not sorry, not the general history of people making.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: About putting spreading things on your kitchen.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: Exactly missing moment for me. I had no clue about
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: any of this.
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, there's been very Sometimes it's just people cutting
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: stuff on their counter like normal food, and then there's
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: this spreadables. There's the people making spreads and stuff on
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: their counters, and it's just people weren't filming it. People
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: weren't taking notice. And you know, that's where people like
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: me coming and go, Okay, big vision. You know, I'm
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: at I'm at Huge People Ventures and I'm like, I'm
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: seeing something huge. I'm seeing something huge. Yeah, and maybe
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: it's too huge for huge people ventures. So that's what
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: I have over TI.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, And I feel like that's a good move.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's a really good move.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I don't want to step on HPV, but I feel
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: like UTI is a better move.
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: I agree, U T I is way better than h period.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: I would rank it for me.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: U T I, HPV pooeye wow police last.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: But I stand why it's at the bottom.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: You're right, STD is at the bottom. I'm sorry, I don't.
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: Know is did you drop the D for industries or SDI.
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: That was part of the reason why we failed because Stars,
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: Total Industries took over and became the socially accepted, real
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: legitimate agency.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Well, here here's an interesting question from the fish bowl.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I guess for me, and I'm really interested. You know,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: we talked about where we started, kind of like at
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: the agencies, But why did you fall into the agent
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: field that you fell into? You know, we all kind
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: of come from these different things, and that's a really
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: good question, Fishbowl.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: Can I sign you.
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: Please? Hip bucket.
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: I'll tell you that Fishbowill probably do a better job
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: books than some.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Of my clients.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: Tell me about it. Tell you about Fishball. How do
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: you look at blue Makeup?
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Are you eleven or twelve?
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: Are you eleven or twelve? Fish bull?
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: Well, my answer to that is, you know, I see connections,
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: you know, so I see these people that are making
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: a trifle on their counter or something, and I think,
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: you know, because the way my clients make a lot
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: of their money, you know, not they're not. Some of
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: them are booking sketches, you know, our world specials and
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: stuff like that, big movies, things like that that TikTokers
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: sure get.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: I saw, by the way, I saw She the Crumb's
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: Hour special on Netflix.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: It was you liked it, You like that?
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I couldn't believe you guys had so many different
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: counters on that.
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that was my idea. Different heights, different counters
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: is marble.
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, you'd never see her face even once.
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: And I don't know if Netflix has ever done that before.
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that was my idea too, because I was like,
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: we just got focused on the counter. She that's her
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: whole thing.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's she's got She's also got her face. She
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: always looks like she's just seen a ghost.
• 32:48
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: She doesn't like to be on film, and I make her.
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: But the thing is that my clients, most of the
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: money they get is from spawn con.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, we're all familiar.
• 33:02
  Speaker 10: Yeah me.
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: So I see, you know, a client that's making a
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: sevent cheese lasagnia that's not cooked on a counter. I
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: hook them up with Huggies, you know, or something to
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: promote diapers, you know, and then they get to way
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: the diaper in the video. I'll having a little fun,
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: and then Huggies gets a little boost and they al
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: all money.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: I see those connections where other people might not where
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: I frankly, I don't think the stoves people see that
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: stuff as much.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: No, I feel that too. I'm like, I feel like
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: I have the same thing where I see those connections.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: You know, like spaon con is a huge world in
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: the tween world, you know, because with TikTok and with Instagram,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: We've got a bunch of tweens making more money than
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I've literally any any if scene ever. Literally, I feel
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: so bad for David Geff and my old client. He's
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: just watching these tweens get million dollar paychecks almost every week.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I've got this kid, Jacob o Bakeup and he is
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: a huge, huge tween in the TikTok space. You know,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: he plays soccer, he likes chess every once in a
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: while with his dad, and he's fucking rip. I mean,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: this kid is hot. He's a hot kid. So you know,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: the girls and the guys, they love him. He's very
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: nice but also kind of a bad boy. So you know,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: we got macaroni and cheese coming in craft coming in
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: one point six million dollars for this twelve year old
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: to pour mac and cheese on his body. And I
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: was like, we'll take it. No counter offer.
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: Hey, I'm always making counter offers.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Hey can I use that that's a funny joke.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, Kelsey, you gotta gift for comedy. Comedy, comedy comedy, Katie,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Will you.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Write that joke down so I can laugh at it later.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Katie.
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: To answer a question earlier, I didn't always want to
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: be specifically this kind of agent.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: No way, I really know what it was. Well, so
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I actually was a bit of a child actor myself,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: and you know I was. I was up there.
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: I was selling gerber I was selling Huggies, I was
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: selling all those things. And in I noticed that, like
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: the acting thing, though I kept getting booked, was never
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: really clicking because you know, I kept trying to take
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: ten percent of the other child actors money. I would
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: walk up to them, I would say, how much did
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: you make? I would like a little bit of that.
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: That's really an agent.
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: That's really for actors out there. Sometimes the thing that
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: you're trying is not the thing you're meant to do.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: That's a beautiful exactly exactly.
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: Maybe you're trying to kick a basketball and it's like no, no, no,
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: maybe I'm in the wrong sport.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: That's such a good because I do have a lot
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: of kids that kick basketballs and I go, this is
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: supposed to be soccer. What are you doing?
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: You know soccer, right, yeah, I it's so funny. I,
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: you know, obviously lucked into the best career of my life.
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: But before this, I was a teacher. A teacher for
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: about thirty five years. I taught eighth grade California history specifically,
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: and I lived in this apartment complex in Hacienda Heights,
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: and I saw this guy every now and then, and
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: he was really sweet, this old man who was always
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: in a hurry and opened the door for him as
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: he walked out and stuff like that. I found out
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: one day he had passed away. Turns out he was
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: the great David Dankelberg, one of the best agents of
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: our time. He lived a sad, disgusting life living alone
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: in this tiny apartment, and I guess I was the
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: only person who was ever nice to him. And he
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: left me his clients, which is why I got all
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: those clients.
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: And they stuck with you, and none of them had
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: this sort of thought, do I go with someone else,
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: or do I go with.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: This man who shared an apartment complex.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: He made a really beautiful, incredible video that he sent
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: to all of his clients on the night of.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: His death, and do we have that?
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: We do have that.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Let's let's but if we could put it on the
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: pod it is.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: It is intimate, but I you know, I'm an open
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: DVD case. I really am, so I'd love to play.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Let's play it.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: As I breathing my last breath. I want to tell
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: all of you, my clients, there's this wonderful guy who
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: lives in my building.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: His name is Glad, and I'm going to give your
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: careers to him.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: Well, wow, shut up, shut up.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: Oh ship, the dog ripped my fucking ivy out.
• 38:07
  Speaker 10: Ah the fuck.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Fuck mister Tickleberry, mister Tickleberry.
• 38:17
  Speaker 11: There's still time.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: There's still time. Breathe damn it.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: We should have stopped that dog.
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: We should have stopped that dog.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: There's four assistants in here, and he's dying.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: Anyways, that video goes on for like, it goes on
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: for like thirty more minutes. It's so sad. The nurse
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: didn't even know his real last name. It's so sad.
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: It's so sad and crazy.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: You know, you're just constantly disrespected, You're.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: Kind, and when I found out that I had gotten
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: this thing, you know, I was surprised, but I said,
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: why not? You know, this doesn't seem like any sort
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: of curse or anything like that. That seems like a
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: good opportunity. And that's how are you doing? Now? How
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: am I doing? Go ahead?
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: I say, that's just another tip out there. Sometimes if
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: you just go why not? You know, you know, just
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: say why not to something that happens to maybe you do?
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: Oh your life?
• 39:10
  Speaker 8: I love that, Kelsey. I tell that to my clients
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: all the time, who Halloween didn't work out well? And
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: I look at him and I go, why not?
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: What do you say? What do you say?
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: He said?
• 39:19
  Speaker 10: Why not?
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: Oh so he okay, yeah it's little. Yeah, yeah, you
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: really you're really like echolically satisfying.
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: You like, oh yeah, I think I think art lives
• 39:32
  Speaker 8: in repetition. Okay, all of art?
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Why do we love the chorus because we just heard
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: it before?
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: You know, you're not actually very profound?
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's that's what we say in the music industry,
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: or will I'm gonna say that now that you said take.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: It well, I'm actually really interested, Greg, How did you
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: get into it?
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: I I was actually in mid school a couple of
• 39:56
  Speaker 8: billion years ago, and I was working a barriisted job
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: to get by, and it was rough, and I was
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: pissed at some woman who is rude to me at
• 40:08
  Speaker 8: the counter at a coffee bean and I spit in
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: her coffee and she saw me do it.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: She grabbed me from behind and hypnotized me.
• 40:20
  Speaker 8: She put a curse on me, essentially, and she said,
• 40:24
  Speaker 8: you have to do the worst job known to me
• 40:26
  Speaker 8: in kind, and that's be an agent.
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: And that's a bit I do.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: But then I work out with my client.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: That's funny. I thought you were being serious.
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: I also thought you were being serious. That's good acting,
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: that's good.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: You know, to be an agent, you have to kind
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: of know. You gotta kind of be a good actor too.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk about this.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: You have that because you cracked me up. You fooled me.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Oh thank you. Well, I'll tell you I don't have
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: an honest bone in my body.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: Can I ask you guys some advice? Maybe this will
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: help me out to talk about honesty and lying. When
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: I lie to my clients, it hurts my feelings, it
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: hurts myself. Do you guys have any tips on how
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: to stop yourself from hurting when you lie?
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Well, look, You're just gonna get used to it. It's
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: just kind of a cost of the of the field.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: It's nothing. The pain never goes away, but you learn
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: to live with it and you learn it like it. Yeah,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I would say the.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Pain has gone away for me.
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: I'm approached a decent amount of times and a company
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: will come to me and they'll say, hey, we'd really
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: like to see this actor Don Johnson come out for
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: our Horizon commercial. And I'll say, is it union? And
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: they'll say yes. And so I will not tell my
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: client about it because I can't let that happen. And
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: after a while, you take pleasure in it, you know
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: what I mean.
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't believe Don Johnson does non union commercials. Well, yeah,
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: Johnson very famous, Yeah, Miami Vice huge, pretty popular, father
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: of the go to Johnson.
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: Wait wait now, Nancy, were you singing Don Johnson D
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: O and ur D A W N.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I just thought that he was a guy on my roster.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I didn't. This is news to me. If he's in
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: the union, we gotta have a.
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: Talk, you know, we gotta have a huge talk.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: We have to have a huge discussion.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Well, here's another question.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Pensil in a discussion with John Johnson, and then Don
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Johnson right after, and then Don Johnson right after. Make
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: it a full afternoon. Thank you, Katie.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: Well and well, the other question, what do you do
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: when your clients lie to you? Oh?
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Well, this is a good question.
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: I'll answer both because you know, with eleven thousand clients,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: it's tough to make them each feel special, and the
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: only way to make them feel special is to lie
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: to lie, you know, And I tell them lies every
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: time when I signed them, when they're on the cusp
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: of eleven, usually ten and a half, I go, we're
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: gonna be together for a very long time. Yeah, and
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: that I am lying through my teeth. They are gone
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: in two years, on the age of thirteen. Sometimes during
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: their bar mitzvahs, when they're becoming boys or bot mitzs,
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: when they're becoming women. You know, gone, I cut them
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: right there. And when a kid lies to me, I
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: fucking flip because you can always tell when those fuckers
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: are lying. You know. Kids don't have good They are
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: the worst at lyning. They have terrible tells. Yeah, Oh
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: my gosh. I had this kid the other day and
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I was sending him out for a little bit of
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: a rugby commercial. You know, it's a Haines rugby commercial
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: where we have all these twelve year old boys running
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: around in underwear playing rugby.
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: Just sounds normal to me.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: And one of one of the boys says, I feel sick.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: I feel sick, And I go, really, what are you
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: sick with? And he says, it's just like a bad
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: tummy ache. And I swear to God, I fucking lost
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: it all this kid, because I knew exactly what he
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: wanted to do. He wanted to go out to the
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: movies with his friends. And I don't want to name names.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I don't want to name my client out because you
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: know he's still my client. But I will say, Pat,
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: if you're listening, and any person that's listening, don't lie
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: to your agent. If you if you say you can
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: make a Haines commercial callback, then make the Hanes commercial callback.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: No not, but.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: My god, money's gonna lie in there.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Money is on the line.
• 44:21
  Speaker 8: Money, Oh I tell my clients, Oh my god, money's
• 44:25
  Speaker 8: on the line in that.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: The mind games that you have to play with your clients.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Sometimes a lot.
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: Of times they come to me and they say, my
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: casting frontier account won't log in.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's disgusting. It's honestly, what.
• 44:41
  Speaker 8: Are they trying to cover up when they say that
• 44:45
  Speaker 8: this is so interesting?
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I just know they're on that thing. I know they are,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: and I hate being disrespected.
• 44:53
  Speaker 7: They should in case there's anyone out there that's you know,
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: I'm in counter food stuff and you know, how do
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: I deal with my reps, lying and stuffs? Just like
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: I gotta be honest when I signed a client, I've
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: got to say, I'm like, I signed one client, I'm
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: kind of signing seventy five, and that's that Cannabians or whatever.
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: Each being in that Cannabians. You know, you're they're of
• 45:14
  Speaker 7: my real clients my clients.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Do you represent food as well?
• 45:18
  Speaker 7: Not yet, I'm kind of working there. Oh nice, But
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: right now it's the people that handle the food. But
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: I kind of look at them all this food and
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: it becomes a little easier to kind of you know,
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: the commodities. You know that beans, Tommy, Tommy needs a
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: Tommy needs to pick an. He's food, he needs a
• 45:37
  Speaker 7: concentration stand.
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: But you know, well, I represent string cheese because she's
• 45:42
  Speaker 8: a funny gal and I can put you guys in touch, she's.
• 45:46
  Speaker 7: She is funny now and now would be she's food
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: and she's food, yeah a little.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: I love the little burlesque acts she does when she
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: takes a little piece of her cell phone, she.
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: Takes the she takes the dark yellow off and leaves
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: just the light yellow.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: I wish you could have think she was on first?
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: Her?
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Who's on first? In our general was?
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: I think we have a I think we actually have
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: a tape of that.
• 46:11
  Speaker 11: Who's on first?
• 46:13
  Speaker 7: No?
• 46:13
  Speaker 11: I mean the fella's name?
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: Yes?
• 46:16
  Speaker 11: Who who?
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: No?
• 46:19
  Speaker 11: I mean the person playing the bass?
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: Who?
• 46:23
  Speaker 11: Who?
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: What are you talking about? No?
• 46:27
  Speaker 11: What's on second?
• 46:29
  Speaker 7: What?
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: No?
• 46:30
  Speaker 11: I mean, what's the player on second? Shall I keep going?
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: Boys?
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: Got?
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Is she a talent?
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Or what?
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: Wow?
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: Was that you in the background like making noises.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: A little bit? Oh yeah, I gotta hang along. So
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: it's it's the classics. How can you not?
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: It's also nice, it's admirable you fol your generals keep everybody.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I gotta do that.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: I just a real quick no pressure chat that is recorded,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: recorded and very.
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: Public, no pressure chat that you have to perform an
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: eighty year old comedy piece during.
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: Oh, it's very each other because then I uploaded on
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: their actors' access. I got their reels and I got there,
• 47:24
  Speaker 8: who's on first?
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: General?
• 47:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah? Where are you from? What's your family?
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: Please? Do who's on first? I get you?
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: This is all really helpful for me because, you know,
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: speaking of difficult clients, one of my clients, his name
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: is Pharrell. He keeps telling me that he's he's written
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: the song. Yeah, do you know him, he's a hat salesman.
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he so, he knows that he's a hat salesman.
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: As a number.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: I think he does music.
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: I think they're telling me that. But what he what
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: keeps happening is he's sending me an email and I'm saying,
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: we need this song. You know there asking for this
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: song my you know, the people that he's supposed to
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  Speaker 5: write the song for. And he says it's in the
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: email and I open it and there's nothing in the email,
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: and I say, okay, here's.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: The song, just a little are Yeah, you might have
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: to just go down and click the attachment and what.
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: Do you mean? No?
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: I open it into your Lenovo.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: Okay, great, yeah, let's do this right now.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, get your Lenovo out.
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: Oh you shared screen. We can see your get it.
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, let me get so. Okay, so hold on.
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: Oh shit, sorry, there's an rs A token I need.
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: I have to put a pin in and then it
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: refreshes every sixty seconds.
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: Okay, you have a token just for your personal computer.
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: That's not you know.
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, gotta be safe.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess these are these attachments are important.
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and you open them, and that's all you gotta
• 48:52
  Speaker 7: be aware of. Sometimes send me something I'm not I.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Don't want to, you know, yeah, exactly. That's another thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's not even about if the computer breaks down. It's
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: sometimes I just don't feel it. No, I just don't
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: feel it.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: To people send me a bad Oh sorry, go ahead.
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: No, it's there's a box at the bottom.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, click that buck. See what happens when you clicked
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: that buck?
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: Okay, Oh, it's playing.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Because I'm happy.
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: Clap alone.
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: Wait a minute, Happy.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: I knew I'm happy.
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: I knew he was fucking with me. No, No, I
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: wanted a new song. I've heard of happy. I'm not
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: an idiot. I've heard of happy. He was fucking with me.
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: I knew it.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: It sounds more like a test if you would open it.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Now you can answer him back. Now you can go.
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: Don't fuck with me.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: And here's what I do.
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: I have to I have to send a passive aggressive email,
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: which my old boss, the person who endowed me this job,
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: he left me a long list on how to send
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: a passive aggressive email. So I'll say thank you for
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: the song. This is not the one we agreed on.
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: Please advise.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: That doesn't sound too passive.
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: That's passive. Whoa you're gonna call for all? A fucker?
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: Holy fuck? Why what're you gonna getting there?
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: So it feels like I'm getting the lights that they
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: want us to ask one last question? What is the
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: last piece of advice? The question like, yeah, it's right there,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: it says, last question, what's the uh? What's the last
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: piece of advice you guys have for artists out there?
• 50:25
  Speaker 7: For you layers, layers, layers, layers. I don't want to
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: see single layer counter stuff I might see layers. Make
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: me a freaking crape cake, no oven on the count
• 50:39
  Speaker 7: on the counter, Make me a trifle, a loose free
• 50:42
  Speaker 7: form trifle, make me thirty layer bean deap. I don't know.
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: I'm not the artist. I'm just here to help you layers.
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: That's my advice, I would say, advice wise, I would
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: just say be kind and be patient. Yeah, and just
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: know that we're all trying. And if your agents are
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: screwing up, just like, just give them a second. Why
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: do you sound like a baby?
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: Are you?
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry? I'm not a baby?
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.
• 51:19
  Speaker 7: For a second, I thought you were gonna like pull
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: off your skin and be a baby.
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: Or no, that would have been me.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Comedy comedy, comedy.
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: No, I'm an adult. I'm not a baby, but sometimes
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: I sound like one. Sometimes.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, I get that, sure, I guess. Following that, my
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: advice is, don't fucking grow up. Don't don't grow up,
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: don't do it, stay young and and reach out to me.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: If you're eleven or twelve.
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: I would say my advice would be do your absolute
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: best until you start to get recognized for it, in
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: which stop stop right until you get to that point
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: where you're consistently booking. Somebody is gonna come and approach
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: you and they're gonna say, do you want to be sacked?
• 52:03
  Speaker 7: Stop?
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: Stop, stop getting better, stop getting better, get really really good,
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: and then stay there.
• 52:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah. I think I think not going to a union
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: is a nice piece of advice.
• 52:12
  Speaker 8: I'd say word ploy, I'd say repetition, and I'd say botox.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: That's what I'll say. Those three things are the holy
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: Trinity in my office. That's what I'll leave it at that.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: And never give up.
• 52:31
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I guess that should be.
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I guess never give up.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, never give up?
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, I never give up.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Katie Pencilman some time to roll my eyes.
• 52:44
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• 52:47
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• 52:50
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• 53:23
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• 53:26
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