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Top Five Ways Barbie is Secretly a Plastic Handmaiden of the Patriarchy | Maintaining Frame 68 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badgel Radio. My name is Brian.
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  I'm here with Allison and this is maintaining frame number sixty eight, the top
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  five ways Barbie is secretly a plastic handmaiden of the patriarchy. That's mouthful.
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  So we're gonna be looking at a video mouthful and more ways than one.
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  Yeah, hell no, We're gonna be looking at a video from a YouTube
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  channel called verily Bitchy, where the I guess, the YouTube host, what
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  do you call them, the person, the individual training, the YouTuber.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what we call it. The YouTuber is
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  going to make the argument that Barbie, the movie, the toy, and
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  everything around it is actually problematic, plastic fake feminism. That isn't that is
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  not revolutionary or something. Yes, and I'm gonna I'll get in here for
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  a second. And okay, you when I watched the Barbie movie, I
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  was coming from it from a very different, I think, a different perspective
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  than you were, Brian, because I had just finished reading sort of a
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  a bunch of samples of recent science fiction and fantasy as promoted by good Reads,
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  and the sheer amount of antimil dystopia like it essentially when you when you
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  think about a lot of these books, they're essentially if you would take what
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  excuse me for invoking Godwin's law, but the or even just let's go with
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  it, let's go with communists. It's basically how communists portrayed the world under
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  capitalist rule. Okay, So the it's this idea of this absolute demonization of
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  a group of people based on biological factors. So it's act even worse than
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  communism. It is more like Nazism, the way Nazi Nazis viewed Jewish rule,
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  except you know, in this scenario, it's men. So all of
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  these dystopias are dystopias because of course they're ruled by men, and men are
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  horrible. And this is every single book, are a great swath of them,
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  and the and the main thrust of the book is either appropriating or destroying
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  patriarchy, and it's just flat out miss injury, like just flat out,
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  Oh, men are in power. Therefore the world is awful because if you
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  give men power, they don't use it to create a system of relative comfort
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  and safety for everyone. They just use it to oppress everybody who doesn't look
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  like them, which is women. So it was just this un and it
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  was at the point where I would pick up a new like I haven't.
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  I had all these samples on my kindle, and I would finish a sample
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  and I would be looking at the next book in the list, and I
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  would be sick to my stomach over opening it. Yeah, because I didn't
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  want to read any more of this crap about men, and all of it
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  was men create horrible societies. Women have to battle their way out of them,
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  like they're basically just handmaiden's tail, which itself is complete nonsense. It's
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  based on a biblical story that's really about the sexual subjugation of a man.
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  Handmaiden's tale in space, handmaiden's tail in Narnia, handmaiden's tail in the you
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  know, Middle Earth, all of this crap bottom of the Yeah, handmaiden's
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  tail in the bottom of the ocean, handmaiden's tail in the stomach of the
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  celestial great white shark, whatever, any just basically handmaiden's tail in blah and
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  and sometimes even worse and more uncharitable than the Handmaiden's Tale. So when I
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  came to that, when I watched the Barbie movie, I was actually surprised
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  it didn't give me PTSD at the end, it was it was from where
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  I was standing, it was a breath of fresh air. And I know
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  that sounds and I'm not even saying that anybody shouldn't react negatively to it,
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  because probably what's happening is I'm inured and I was braced for the worst,
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  and then and then the Barbie movie came up, and I'm like, wow,
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  okay, So basically what you're saying is that patriarchy isn't you know,
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  isn't that bad? Honestly, because at the end there was They didn't overthrow
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  the patriarchy. They actually appealed to the patriarch for things and he was like,
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  okay, well if that makes money, sure, you know. And
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  it's like, well, geez, you've built up, you built up nothing
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  and you went nowhere. And yes, everybody in every system has complaints,
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  So who cares like you? You feel pressure for some reason in this system
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  because you're a woman, Well, welcome to reality. This particular world is
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  not heaven. It is some form of purgatory. So you're you're not going
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  to completely enjoy it, you know, And honestly, if you were alive
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  one hundred and fifty years ago you would have enjoyed it a hell of a
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  lot less, so count your blessings. But you know, yeah, so
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  ultimately amounted to not much of anything, just a big wet fart like patriarchy
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  continues. It's sometimes okay, sometimes it isn't you know whatever. Yeah,
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  So what you're saying is what I'm hearing is that there is content even more
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  hateful than that, Oh Farran, the landscape is even more barren, yes,
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  say yeah, yes. Honestly, when you've read this stuff, you
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  realize that the Barbie movie is not only more charitable towards men than what could
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  be, it is also less not revolutionary at all. In the end.
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  It's basically like, just like a patriarchy exists, drug your shoulder to move
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  on, and it's not even like a revolutionary text, which, to be
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  honest, really aggravated me as as an anarchist. I'm like, if you're
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  going to propose that this system is a horrible system of systematic, systematic oppressions,
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  shouldn't you end the movie with like, you know, punching the pag
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  or whatever, like doctor patriarchy right in the professor Patriarchy right in the face,
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  and a big mustache and warm. It was so lukewarm in the ending,
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  and that's where I think this woman is coming from. It was just
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  not radical enough. You know, everything just ended in the status quo and
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  it's like, didn't it didn't start the violent revolution where everything is burned down
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  like she had hoped the Barbie movie would. It didn't. All it did
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  was it caused a bunch of people to break up and you know, get
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  divorced and stuff. But that that's not a revolution. That's just life,
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  guys, that's just the status ye women reacting with status quo type reactions like
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  like breakups and divorce. Okay, but look at look at it this way.
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  Ultimately, it's revealed that Barbie Land, the great fem femtopy is constructed
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  by patriarchy. So the only way that they're going to have the femtopia is
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  if patriarchs make it. Which you know what, ladies, it's honest,
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  you know, that's that's true. Like, the only way you're going to
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  have a society is if men make it. And I know that that feeling
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  makes you, makes you really grind your teeth, but the Barbie movie is
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  essentially accurate. You will never escape the work of men. The Barbie land
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  the femtopia will always be constructed by men, at the behest of men and
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  at men's ultimate forbearance. Okay, that's you're just not going to get away
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  from it, oh man, And you actually, like the radical feminists,
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  have absolutely no plan to get away from it, because I don't even think
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  the point is getting away from it. The point is just to make someone
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  feel miserable about themselves. Oh anyway, So that's where I was coming from
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  for the Barbie movie. So I get where what she's talking about. I
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  mean, I don't agree with it, that I understand her perspective. And
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  so anyway, I wanted to say that, and I want to remind everyone
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  seen in the landscape effection. Really, that's not to say that it doesn't
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  explore men doing bad things. It just doesn't say that they're bad because of
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  right. Back to you, Brian for this this wonderful exposay on why Barbie
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  wasn't feminist enough. Yeah, not not radical enough, therefore just more evil
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  capitalism. Oh okay, so this is a video from Forget Her Name already,
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  but it doesn't really matter and they are talking about well, let's just
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  play this first clip. I guess, so we're starting in the middle.
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  Guys care about empowering young girls. When Disney decided it was time to take
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  their classic cartoon about a young woman who is imprisoned by a cruel and violent
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  man until she learns to love him and update it with a more progressive live
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  action remake, they cast Emma Watson in the leading role. Oh, by
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  the way, this this, this one, this individual is critiquing the feminism
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  and Emma Watson. I mean, maybe we shouldn't have started with this because
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  it's a bit far from the subject matter. It's ring a parallel between the
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  kind of lukewarm feminism of Emma Watson and the lukewarm feminism of Barbie. Think
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  about that for a second, though, because we oppose the what she's calling
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  the lukewarm feminism of Emma Watson because it's still like, deeply, deeply misindross.
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  But apparently this person doesn't think it's misindresus enough, doesn't think it's radical
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  enough, doesn't think that it's woke enough, because it's still you know,
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  I mean, I'm sure that she would call it white feminism because Emma Emma
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  Watson is white, or elite is feminism because Emma Watson is a famous,
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  attractive, million dollar actress. You know, she would call it all these
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  other things. But apparently not not enough, not enough. That's basically what
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  I think this comes down to. Okay, Anyway, Watson had been in
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  the public eye recently for her un speech on feminism, asking men to be
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  more involved in ending sexism. This new image of Emma Watson as the inoffensive
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  voice of feminist youth made her an ideal candidate for the role of Bell Inoffensive.
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  She's like, so when when she was saying all the shit that Emma
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  Watson was saying, this person considers that inoffensive. So any Like, this
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  is why by the way when men say, you know, I feel like
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  I'm getting beat up a lot online, people respond with, oh, boo
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  hoo, the poor man, why your tea, I'm drinking your tears men.
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  Because even Emma Watson's statements while they were let's say, you know,
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  curated, because she was speaking in front of a crowd of probably very rich,
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  very bored people about why men need to step up and like be you
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  know, advocates for women without white knighting for them or being patriarchs because that's
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  bad. And that clearly assuming that men are the problem and men need to
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  be the solution to the problem. This person still doesn't think she finds that
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  not offensive enough. When you say inoffensive voice, you're saying it should be
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  more offensive. I mean, that's what I take from it. Anyways,
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  maybe I'm wrong. Well, I'm not exactly sure what she thinks she's gonna
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  do. I mean, this individual, I may be wrong, but I
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  believe this is a trans woman. It is a trans woman. Yes,
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  okay, I believe that's okay to point out and they prefer to no,
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  well, yeah, it's probably says something about what this person thinks about men.
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  Uh yeah, but not just that it's like, Okay, what do
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  you want. I mean, Emma Watson already believes that women are oppressed in
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  the past, and women are oppressed. Now is it that she says,
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  well, we got to appeal to men. What is so lukewarm about Emma
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  Watson's feminism And if you're if you're referring to the fact that she thinks that
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  we need to appeal or women need to appeal to men to get anywhere,
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  I invite you to start developing an action plan for the phemutopia separate from the
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  labor of men, because that's the only way you're going to construct a system
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  that you don't have to appeal to men in some way, all right,
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  Like that's that's it. You got to you got to make that you got
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  to take the effort and make the sacrifices to leave the harem. And I
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  don't see that happening. So it's basically like it's a meaningless statement to say
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  that Emma Watson's feminism is luke is not sufficiently radical. Why, well,
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  the only thing I could think of is that she has a place for men
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  to appeal. She appeals to men in it, like she she condemns men,
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  but she appeals to them. She says that they are the ones that
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  need to save women. So, I mean, it's the it's the I
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  don't know if you've ever read I'm pretty sure you haven't the book called the
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  Triple Package, and it looks those ethnicities that achieve a high degree in society
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  and what it finds is that, well, basically, there's two qualities that
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  are really critical for a high achievement. One a sense of guilt and two
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  a sense of excellence. And this is what Emma Watson is delivering for men.
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  She's creating guilt, but she's also saying, you're the only ones who
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  can save me. Obi wan kenobi. So it creates this hero narrative and
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  a guilt for failing to become the hero of Emma Watson. Now, I'm
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  sure this woman appears to believe that that's not extreme enough. And again that's
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  it's that is meaningless rhetoric, lady, unless you have some kind of action
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  plan to construct a society that doesn't rely on men and the fact that men
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  have a higher risk tolerance by statistically, a better understanding of basial mechanics and
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  all of that. Okay, you got it. You've got to constructive society
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  based on the labor of women and the sacrifice of women. You've got to
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  figure out how to get women to be willing to sacrifice enough to keep maintaining
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  utilities that you know, you can count their maintenance and lives lost a year.
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  Okay, good luck with that. Good luck you got you. You
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  got to somehow and make women want to take over all of the stuff that
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  men do, and they don't want to. Even the prestigious stuff that men
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  do has significant sacrificial costs, and men are willing to do it, usually
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  not for the prestige, but because they want an identity, a positive identity
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  around helping others, not necessarily helping others in the way that women do,
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  but or not just positive at identity around helping others, but a positive identity
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  around creating a difference in the world. Is basically maybe a better way to
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  put it. Yeah, you know, men are motivated by that, just
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  that. I mean, they'll volunteer to make a positive difference in the world,
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  to save people. They'll volunteer to do it, and they do it
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  all the time because that's in their nature to do and it's it's not as
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  much for women. Not saying that women can't do things like nice, like
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  baked goods and other stuff, but it's very rare that women seem to have
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  the same kind of instinctive. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's very
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  rare that women have the same kind of willingness to put themselves in danger to
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  protect and provide for others. Okay, and that I think of A big
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  part of that is, again, men have documented a higher risk tolerance and
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  a greater propensity to see themselves in terms of the consequences of their action in
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  the greater world and what kind of change they can affect in the greater world.
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  So unless you have some kind of plan to take over that role from
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  men, you can talk radical shit all you want, but you're doing fucking
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  all at the end of the day. O good. Should I keep going
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  on this part or jump to the next it? You know? Actually,
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  let's hear a little bit more. Yeah, let's hear a little bit more.
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  Disney has long suffered from feminist critiques of their films Beauty and the Beast
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  not the least of them, after all. Earlier versions of the fairy tale
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  were about arranged marriage, preparing girls for the self sacrifice that comes with it.
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  Perhaps your husband will be super freaking gross, but okay, just a
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  second, all right, right, you realize that this was self sacrifice on
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  both both parts. If we're talking about arranged marriage, which really wasn't that
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  common outside of the aristocracy, especially in Northern Europe, well in Northern Europe,
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  like peasant women or women who were not who didn't have like significant landholdings
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  that had to be secured, usually married in our mid to late twenties to
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  somebody that they liked, okay, And so you're talking about aristocratic women,
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  and it cuts both ways. There's plenty of stories of kings or aris aristocratic
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  men who had to just wallow their bile and service horrifically grotesque foreign princesses.
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  But I think, yeah, I think the thing that's supposed to make the
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  fairy tales appealing is is that it is an instance where the the princess and
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  the prince happened to also fall in love or whereas in most cases it was
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  an arrangement to bring kingdoms together, or to settle some political thing, or
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  to strengthen a family lineage or whatever, and everybody was pretty much okay with
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  it because life was cheap. People, you know, they just died.
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  And it's and it's silly too because I think I know that this woman doesn't
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  this, this person doesn't know this. But the Disney movies of the nineties
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  were pretty feminists compared to the Disney movies of the Golden Age of the beginning,
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  where you know, where they were trying to insert feminist stuff because they
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  the original films like Snow White, Sleeping Beauty and Cinderella. We're getting a
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  lot of critique because they weren't feminist at the time, even though Walt had
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  no interest in making them feminist. He just wanted to tell these stories.
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  So Little Mermaid and Aladdin and Beauting the Beast and Pokahonas those were all more
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  feminist, you could say, woke for their time. And now they're remaking
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  them again and there and apparently those movies weren't good enough. Can you can
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  you see the pattern here? It's almost like they're never happy and you should
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  stop trying to satisfy them because it's always gonna be like, it's gonna get
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  to the point where they're gonna remake Yeah, it's it's an eternally moving target
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  that constantly wants to revolutionize whatever is standard today to go even further, further,
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  further away, And I mean it'll get to the point where you know,
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  there won't even be a man in like a snow White film or something,
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  because that would be a problem. The Dwarfs will all be non binary
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  gray blobs, and snow White will and the Queen will be lesbian lovers and
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  they'll get married and there won't even be a plot. It'll just beans trans
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  and not trans, both trans. One one has to be a bio woman
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  because we can't we can't be we. It has to what will be a
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  trans woman. One will be a bio woman, and maybe the mirror mirror
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  on the mall will start to be about like transfer, that won't even be
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  a mirror anymore of his. I think they're going to take out the mirror
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  in the in this new remake that's coming out, because they said that they're
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  not gonna have the queen be jealous of snow White because they don't want to
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  encourage female rivalry. So they're gonna become besties. That's what That's what's gonna
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  happen. So Okay, so this is. By the way, this is
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  number one. So if anybody wants to time code the Emma Watson as parallel
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  as parallel to lukewarm feminism of Barbie discussion, it started a little bit earlier
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  than this, but this is number one. It's the it's the it's the
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  least really hard hitting and I'm more diffusive. But there was something I wanted
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  to ask you before we continued. Brian, Okay, you watched the original
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  snow White. I did. What did you think of it? And what
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  did you think of the message around women? Oh? I mean the original
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  snow White is actually I now know why it's considered a classic for the time.
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  So the thing that really makes snow White, uh stand out is how
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  much of the symbolism is like it's universalized. So snow White is supposed to
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  represent a kind of ideal heroin Now people might say she doesn't like, you
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  know, fight any battles or anything like that. And for some reason people
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  think that being a hero or a heroine involves resolving physical conflicts. But you
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  don't, what go ahead, It involves your fists, fist cars only.
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  No, but this is violent what it does though, and I'm not saying
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  this is the only way you could tell this story, because there's others that
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  have tackled sort of different aspects of femininity to make them heroic, like motherhood,
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  for example. But in this case of snow White, first of all,
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  she is extremely humble, despite being the most beautiful woman in the land,
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  right like according to the magic mirror, which apparently knows she is extremely
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  humble. She does not think of herself as above anyone, and she is
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  she even though she was, but the queen made her into a slave girl
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  that basically toiled, cleaning and doing the washing and all of these things around
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  the castle. She stays positive, she stays happy, She doesn't mistreat anyone,
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  she doesn't become resentful. She endures is essentially what it is right.
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  She endures suff ring, she endures hardship, and she does so with a
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  smile in her on her face and a spring in her step. And it's
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  so attractive that she does that. That that's why she attracts animals, because
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  it's it's sort of hers. Yeah, it's her goodness, it's her kindness.
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  But like there is a kind of there's There are several biblical references made
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  in the movie. One of them is that she speaks to the animals,
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  which I think i've I've said on the show before that I learned that this
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  is what Eve did that was different from Adam and the Guard Daviden was that
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  Eve could speak to the animals, so she became an advocate for the animals.
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  Adam was more like a scientist. He would he would name the animals,
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  and he would essentially like you know, categorize them, and and and
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  it's meant to be a masculine way of organizing, which is which is fine.
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  He's he's a creating order. But Eve listens to the animals, so
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  she brings a little bit of chaos in because she says, look, this
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  animal want you know, this is what they want, etc. But then
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  there is a there is a challenge with that. This is why the serpent
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  goes to eat because she speaks to the animals. Adam can't speak to the
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  serpent, right, So it's an interesting way off. I don't know everything
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  about it, but that was some of the stuff I got from a class
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  that I took that talked about Genesis, and that was one of the things
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  I've never knew before that I learned. And snow White This is why the
• 25:25
  Disney princesses, the early ones, would spend time with animals. I think
• 25:29
  that was an intentional thing that Walt put in the story. So when you
• 25:33
  see these things that kind of poke fun, you know at it, at
• 25:37
  the idea that the animals all want to be around the women. That's why,
• 25:41
  though that's left you know that it's sort of like women are closer to
• 25:44
  the earth and there and they're closer to the nature. At least that's what
• 25:48
  the symbolism represents. But anyway, so that's another thing. The third thing
• 25:52
  is that when snow White is the Queen finds out that she's more beautiful,
• 25:57
  and so she's like, I gotta get rid of this woman because I want
• 26:00
  to be the most fairest one of all. And this is something about basically,
• 26:04
  the Queen represents the shadow side of women. The narcissism, the jealousy,
• 26:11
  the vengefulness. These are important things that girls should know about themselves.
• 26:17
  Like these the Queen and Cinderella say something to both sides of a woman.
• 26:23
  Do what did I say? Did I say, Cinderella, snow White?
• 26:26
  Snow White? Cinderella has the same thing with Lady Tremaine, but but snow
• 26:30
  White is what I mean to say. And so when the Queen, she
• 26:33
  wants to get rid of her, she hires a man, the woodsman or
• 26:37
  the huntsman, to take her out into the woods and kill her and then
• 26:41
  like come back when the job is done, right, So she doesn't even
• 26:44
  want to get her hands dirty. She has somebody else do it. And
• 26:47
  this man takes snow White out there, and he cannot bring himself to do
• 26:49
  it because she is too innocent, she is too pure, and she is
• 26:52
  too kind. I see that kindness saves her. You could you could say
• 26:59
  it's gnocentric, but I think that it's more about her behavior. And so
• 27:03
  because he could, he could have killed her, which would have pleased the
• 27:07
  Queen, which would have been you know, a sort of like dark kind
• 27:11
  of I guess you could say, loyalty to femininity. But instead he spares
• 27:15
  her, and he says, running high because the Queen's gonna kill you.
• 27:19
  So you get that right. So the Wood's been not killing her and letting
• 27:22
  her go. Even though he never comes back, you know, you don't
• 27:26
  see him again. That's I think that's a super important moment because it shows
• 27:30
  you what men think of her. Also, she runs into the prince earlier
• 27:33
  because he's like passing through and she's singing, and he hears her singing and
• 27:37
  he joins in the song. So that's how you know that they love each
• 27:41
  other, right, I mean they don't have a lot of time together.
• 27:42
  But we're talking about a movie that's like an hour and a half long or
• 27:45
  less, so you don't have a lot of time to establish you know,
• 27:48
  like does he know what her hobbies are? And I'll like, that's that?
• 27:52
  You know, that's bullshit, isn't It doesn't work right, we don't
• 27:53
  need it. But here's the thing that I thought was really great. It's
• 27:56
  a couple of really great things. So snow White's in the in the middle
• 28:00
  of nowhere. She's lost, she's never left the castle. So now you
• 28:03
  have a situation where women who are normally protected by what feminist would call patriarchy
• 28:11
  or like the inner the inner perimeter of civilization, which is protected by men.
• 28:19
  Right, So men are on the perimeter, and they're protecting the perimeter
• 28:23
  from the outside, from nature, from another tribe or whatever the whatever.
• 28:29
  Monsters or barbarians are outside of that perimeter. That's where men protect women.
• 28:33
  Generally do not go out there, but snow White is forced out there,
• 28:37
  and so when she is out there, she's in a place she's never been
• 28:40
  before, and she's surrounded by nature and it's very scary. And there's like
• 28:44
  a scene where she's running through the woods and all the trees look creepy and
• 28:48
  I don't know if you remember that, but a lot of kids were terrified
• 28:51
  by that. And then she calms down because the animals come to her and
• 28:56
  they comfort her. And then she she does this on her own, though
• 28:59
  she called. She calms down, she calms her tits, and then she
• 29:03
  says, I need to find a place, like some shelter because it's getting
• 29:06
  dark. She finds the dwarves house. She goes in. She doesn't know
• 29:10
  who the dwarves are. She sees the place, she's like, oh,
• 29:12
  this is like, you know, it looks like seven little children live here
• 29:15
  because it's obviously these small beds and she but she also sees the dwarves.
• 29:21
  Their home is a mess. They got they leave, they don't clean their
• 29:25
  dishes, they leave shit everywhere. There's cobwebs on everything. So she decides
• 29:30
  and she wants to use the home for shelter that she will in turn be
• 29:33
  it. So she wants to be a good she's hoping that there will be
• 29:37
  good hosts, but she thinks she should be a good guest. And so
• 29:40
  she cleans their house while the dwarves are mining, you know, in the
• 29:45
  cave, right, and so she cleans it top to bottom. And I
• 29:51
  think that it's sort of like how it's it's it's acknowledging a way that you
• 29:56
  know, you could say a typical woman would thank someone that doesn't have to
• 30:02
  be a lover or a or whatever, because the relationship between snow White and
• 30:06
  the dwarves is more like, uh, she sees them as little brothers,
• 30:11
  you know, or or siblings or family. It's not it's obviously not romantic,
• 30:17
  but it's not like they're her kids either. And so she cleans everything,
• 30:22
  and I think she even prepares some food for them. And then the
• 30:26
  dwarves come back, and of course they don't know that this has all happened,
• 30:30
  and they're freaking out because everything's clean and they don't understand it. And
• 30:33
  and so then they meet her, and you know, and there's all this
• 30:37
  funny stuff that happens, and and and then the dwarves are like really pleased
• 30:42
  with her being there, so it's super wholesome, right, And what was
• 30:45
  really amazing, and I mean, it doesn't matter what you feel about this
• 30:49
  or not, but what was really amazing that I know you don't see in
• 30:52
  movies anymore at all, but much less Disney movies, is that that night,
• 30:56
  the dwarves let her stay in the beds and they choose to sleep like
• 31:00
  on the chairs and stuff in the main floor while she's in the bedroom sleeping,
• 31:06
  and of course she doesn't. They don't want to be in the room
• 31:07
  with her because it's not appropriate according to them. But before she goes to
• 31:11
  bed, she's super grateful. She's super appreciative, even though she cleaned their
• 31:18
  house, but she's appreciate that'd let her stay there. And then she prays
• 31:22
  for them, and there's like a scene where she prays. She doesn't she
• 31:26
  doesn't say God, but she's kneeling at the bed, you know, clasping
• 31:30
  her hands with her head down, and she's praying for all the dwarves before
• 31:33
  she goes to bed. So I mean, and what, yeah, well,
• 31:38
  well we'll finish your thought. I'm sorry. I thought you might know.
• 31:41
  I mean like I'm not gonna you know what happens after that, but
• 31:45
  like those are the I think that the main traits that Snow White exhibits.
• 31:51
  And you should watch this movie if you guys haven't seen it in a while.
• 31:55
  Is she is like as it was like they sat there and they said,
• 31:57
  how do we make this woman as appealing as possible? And I mean
• 32:05
  not sexually at all. It's just she's just a beautiful, pure, wholesome
• 32:10
  you know, supportive, yeah, encouraging, like she encourages the dwarves.
• 32:15
  She tries to like, you know, they all have little flaws. She
• 32:17
  tries to make them better. And she does like the thing that I guess,
• 32:22
  you know, Walt at least believe that would suit a woman like that
• 32:28
  best in terms of her role in the story. And she is the hero
• 32:30
  because she's the one that changes, you know, I mean the way well
• 32:37
  she she gains a certain amount of self reliance in the woods. Said yeah,
• 32:44
  exactly, she becomes she's no longer sheltered. So it's like and and
• 32:49
  of course she comes. She brought, she does a brush with death,
• 32:51
  She meets new people, she builds you could say community, because she befriends
• 32:55
  the dwarves, and then the prince comes and he saves her or whatever,
• 33:01
  he breaks the spell. But like, again, this is something that both
• 33:06
  of them wanted. They you know that the prince wanted it and snow White
• 33:08
  wanted it, and they were separated, and what you're as the viewer,
• 33:12
  you're supposed to hope that they find each other again. So it's basically boy
• 33:15
  meets girl, boy loses girl, you know, Okay, And well,
• 33:20
  I mean, what I've noticed is that progressively these stories have to strip the
• 33:28
  effect of femininity out of them. Yeah, like you, you would look
• 33:31
  at snow White and a lot of what she does is it's a very it's
• 33:37
  a feminine approach to solving problems and gaining influence and strength. And we in
• 33:47
  the whole sequence that you're seeing is over and over and over again, we
• 33:52
  have the the empowerment is women taking on the role of force, not even
• 33:59
  a masculine role specifically, but a sub portion of the masculine role, which
• 34:04
  is physical force. Because men can also use diplomacy, they can also intellect,
• 34:12
  they can also you know, solve problems with ways other than force.
• 34:15
  And yet it's specifically that aspect. If you if you took out force as
• 34:22
  a means to solve problems. How many women in modern cinema would be able
• 34:27
  to solve a problem. And that's interesting how they have this obsession, like
• 34:31
  feminists have this obsession with patriarchy using force to subjugate women at the same time
• 34:38
  as empowerment for women as being able to use force to enact their will.
• 34:43
  It's like it's actually a really very unpleasant paradigm to exist within. Yeah,
• 34:52
  you know, and very limited, I know. With with my story,
• 34:59
  which i'll i'll speak on briefly, I attempted to create female characters who were
• 35:07
  strong because they were feminine, not in spite of being feminine. So these
• 35:13
  female characters, like there's a there's a few of them. Some of them
• 35:15
  could be seen as you know, like one is an inspector who uses her
• 35:21
  her ability to observe and in an appearance of being slightly helpless to get what
• 35:28
  she wants, and you know, and there are others the similar vein that
• 35:34
  they're actually using their femininity as it like in the way snow White does,
• 35:37
  but it differently. And so I was thinking about this and it's like that
• 35:46
  is one of the things that is most absent in media today is this idea
• 35:52
  that femininity has any use whatsoever, is anything but weakness. And it's really
• 36:00
  funny because they call themselves feminists, and it does seem to be that they
• 36:04
  do not like femininity, They don't particularly like and they don't really recognize the
• 36:07
  positive aspects of masculinity, although they will recognize the positive aspects of femininity,
• 36:13
  which is interesting. So they would say that snow White as a character embodies
• 36:17
  the positive feminine, but at the same time, she's subjugated. You see
• 36:22
  what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, well maybe that to them is as
• 36:25
  good as it gets. I mean that's why, like you know, these
• 36:29
  people, they they they they disenchant everything. That's what they do. They
• 36:35
  take they take the enchantment out of things. This is why this person has
• 36:38
  to frame Beauty and the Beast as, Oh, this ugly gross dude like
• 36:42
  kidnaps this girl and she gets Stockholm syndrome and learns to live with it.
• 36:45
  That's not what the story is about at all. And I mean, like,
• 36:49
  of course she has to do that, because it's all about whatever we
• 36:53
  get out of it, we're not allowed to have, like it has to
• 36:57
  be stripped away. It has to be disenchanted. And one of the most
• 37:00
  effective ways I guess that they find is to inject as much realism and I
• 37:05
  put that in quotes into it as possible, so you know, when they
• 37:08
  oh, realistically this is it doesn't matter what you think about that. That's
• 37:14
  like saying realistically, orcs wouldn't exist. So why did JR. Tolki right,
• 37:17
  Lord of the Rings if he wasn't talking about you know, this or
• 37:21
  that race of people instead? Why doesn't it just be honest? It's because
• 37:24
  you're disenchanting everything. You're not You're unable to enjoy stuff. This is why
• 37:30
  I call them nihilists, because they don't have an idea of anything that's positive
• 37:37
  that comes out of our culture unless it's what they're doing, and even then
• 37:40
  it's negative. They would say that the qualities that make snow white snow white,
• 37:45
  the feminine qualities, make her morally superior to men, at the same
• 37:50
  time as they would say that it's disempowering for her to show them yeah,
• 37:55
  and that she should embrace what they really would consider to be patriarchal oppression,
• 38:02
  the use of violence to subjugates others, you know, and that is it's
• 38:13
  you should be able, like you should be able to write female characters like
• 38:17
  I said, that use their femininity to change the world around them. Because
• 38:25
  she does right, she changes the dwarfs. She overcomes the circumstances she's put
• 38:30
  through, and she does through. She does so while being courageous, Like
• 38:38
  it is to be thrown into the wild, into the woods, and people
• 38:42
  don't understand that now because they don't really live close to the woods. Woods
• 38:45
  is a scary goddamn place, and would just be thrown out and be able
• 38:50
  to just get your wits about you and then then affect a positive outcome,
• 38:54
  that's courage. She represents the courage of the maiden archetype, the courage to
• 39:00
  face adversity and find the best parts of yourself without violence or anger, you
• 39:08
  know, the most transcendent parts of your soul, to overcome adversity. That
• 39:13
  is the maiden archetype, and that is the archetype of courage. It's the
• 39:17
  same in some ways. It's the same kind of courage you see in the
• 39:21
  Christ myth with both the Mother Mary and Christ. Is the courage to overcome
• 39:28
  a circumstance that you cannot you cannot destroy physically, you cannot overcome it physically,
• 39:32
  you must endure it, but you must endure it with grace. All
• 39:37
  right. That's what she represents, and that is a virtue. And we
• 39:43
  should be able to write stories about women, female characters who embody these virtues
• 39:47
  and see them as empowerment because quite honestly, most people cannot solve their problems
• 39:55
  with their fists, and if they do so, they're most likely part of
• 39:59
  a criminal class. Most of our problems are solved through patients, through self
• 40:04
  development, through careful observation of our surroundings and learning when best to either be
• 40:12
  diplomatic or stand up for ourselves and that kind of stuff. So in day
• 40:16
  to day life, the courage and diplomacy and kindness of the maiden archetype serves
• 40:25
  everyone best, Do you get what I'm saying? Like in you know,
• 40:31
  Christ, it's a story very much embodies that. And so it's like this
• 40:37
  this is this isn't just a story for women. You know, there are
• 40:40
  some aspects of it that that men can take form it that you know,
• 40:45
  they might express it very differently. But this idea of courageous endurance is like
• 40:53
  I'm pretty sure soldiers understand it because a lot of soldiering is just enduring ship
• 41:00
  until you can make a positive change, you know, and until you can
• 41:05
  actually fight back. So this is this isn't just this there there's something feminine
• 41:09
  to it, but there is also something overarchingly human. Yeah, and we
• 41:16
  get rid of all of that in the modern age. We don't recognize any
• 41:20
  of it. It's all just Captain Marvel punching people out or Winten are mostly
• 41:25
  men out and discovering that the patriotarchy done done, kept her down yep,
• 41:30
  yep, reject modernity and not even And it's not even embracing the hero's journey
• 41:37
  aspect of the physical hero, Like he's not even. It's not even Captain
• 41:43
  Marvel learning to be a better person. No, she's already perfect. She
• 41:47
  just needed to remember it. Yeah, literally the plot, Yeah, that
• 41:52
  is just and that's also the plot of Barbie, so get back on it.
• 41:57
  Is it's the plot of well, it's the plot of every film with
• 41:59
  the female in it, if there's any journey at all, a reveal,
• 42:05
  Oh I was always great. This woman does not understand that the depth of
• 42:10
  the archetypes that she's talking about her beauty and the Beast is about a woman
• 42:15
  who had superficial values learning to overcome them and recognize the true value of the
• 42:21
  masculine. So she had a focus on beauty. That's why she asked her
• 42:25
  father for a rose. Okay, she had a focus on beauty. Her
• 42:30
  sisters were more about material wealth. They're irrelevant, but she had a focus
• 42:35
  on beauty. And then she was presented with this guy who was on a
• 42:37
  surface level ugly. She had to come to understand him and appreciate him for
• 42:43
  what it was, and then he became beautiful, right, or she was
• 42:47
  able to recognize his beauty. Yes, and this is but can I just
• 42:53
  say, because it's really important to point this out, that is what some
• 42:58
  beauty was supposed to be or not beauty, and the Beast was supposed to
• 43:00
  be. But if you remember the Disney version that came out in the nineties,
• 43:07
  Beauty or Bell was she did not have that superficial personality. She didn't
• 43:14
  have to learn that the Beast was actually like beautiful on the inside and all
• 43:19
  of that because they didn't want to give her that character flaw. So this
• 43:23
  is why it looks like a monster kidnapped the girl that was fine already because
• 43:29
  she doesn't really change that much, and that then he had to learn to
• 43:32
  be human through her. She civilized him, I guess, But that's not
• 43:36
  really what the original story was. It's more like what you said and so,
• 43:39
  and now these modern feminists are looking at that movie and they're like,
• 43:44
  oh, man, Stockholms aren't wrong, but they don't even know what the
• 43:46
  original one said. So you see what I'm saying, Like, because they
• 43:52
  left that character flaw out of Bell in the animated version, people are thinking
• 43:57
  that's the Kennon version, and that means that the beast is actually the bad
• 44:02
  guy, because that's kind of how they Now. I didn't watch the Ema
• 44:05
  Watson one because fuck those people, but like, I'm guessing that they also
• 44:09
  change that even more because that's how this goes. So oh yeah, probably,
• 44:15
  yeah, but yeah, it's just it. She's also not really understanding
• 44:20
  this because there's an aspect of the feminine archetype in fairy tales, and one
• 44:27
  of the most critical aspects, it seems, of the of the role of
• 44:30
  the princess or the lady of the manner is to identify the type of masculinity
• 44:38
  that is beneficial to the society. And the societal needs she represents. And
• 44:45
  this, this is like this, this is almost like the the anointing the
• 44:50
  Lady of the Lake throwing the excalibur at Arthur, although he supposedly pulled it
• 44:57
  from a from a sort of a a stone. You know, I guess
• 45:01
  the Lady of the Lake. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 45:05
  sure, sure yeah. Okay, So this idea that the feminine identifies the
• 45:09
  masculine that is necessary to protect and provide for the society that she advocates for.
• 45:16
  That is like an archetypal like process that is in a lot of fairy
• 45:22
  tales around, like with female heroines. But you know, she doesn't.
• 45:27
  This woman does not recognize that because she herself has an incredibly superficial understanding of
• 45:32
  the feminine. Yep, and the woman's journey in in mythology. Okay,
• 45:38
  that should we go to the next one. Yeah, let's play the next
• 45:42
  one. This is women in stem because that's totally related. All right,
• 45:45
  here we go. Oh, I got a super chat from I got a
• 45:49
  super chat from Albert Data Retro for two dollars Canadian and he says inoffensive,
• 45:53
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  Let's see what we got here. Uh wow okay, and uh d SC,
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  that's all I'll say of your of your name gave us fifty dollars,
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  and seventy left to go. Guys, can we make it once again?
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  Go to feed the Badger dot com slash I if you want to help out,
• 46:36
  I have you know, like when I first wrote this story, I
• 46:42
  had these ideas floating in my head. I didn't specifically write it to be
• 46:45
  like, oh, this is gonna be the anti strong female character, but
• 46:52
  that's sort of what the way it fell out. Like. I'm not a
• 46:57
  very feminine woman by any stretch of the imagination, but I think that women
• 47:00
  who are feminine really get like a short shift in our society in terms of
• 47:06
  respect, because they're constantly being portrayed as patsy's and as dupes and as fall
• 47:12
  guys for the patriarchy. They're like, no, they have their own strength,
• 47:15
  they have their own means to make things happen in the world. You
• 47:21
  know, they have their own purpose and their own being and there it's not
• 47:25
  just like they're not just puppets of someone else. I mean it's you know,
• 47:30
  a feminine woman can get things done too. And I say that as
• 47:34
  somebody who's naturally I think more on the masculine spectrum. We want to look
• 47:37
  at my digits some like, holy shit, I righte in you know,
• 47:43
  the the finger length thing. Yeah, I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 47:50
  yeah, yeah, yeah, index versus your ring finger. Yeah,
• 47:53
  your middle finger versus your ring finger, your index versus your ring finger.
• 47:58
  It's it's your index versus index perses a ringer. I'm like, yeah,
• 48:01
  I think my mother must have been taking shots of testosterone when she was pregnant.
• 48:07
  But yeahs and pinching women's bums or something. Yeah yeah, drinking lagger
• 48:16
  all right, go ahead, came up pretty different. But anyway, but
• 48:25
  like when I look at this, I'm like, and maybe it's something I
• 48:29
  don't feel like I have anything to prove. But like again, I think
• 48:32
  that feminine women really get slammed as being useless, and it's like, no,
• 48:40
  that's not that way at all. So I sort of went out of
• 48:44
  my way to try to write some more feminine archetypes and show how they can
• 48:50
  make positive change in the world around them, you know, and have their
• 48:52
  own types of heroes journey and their own types of realizations and can be very
• 48:59
  interesting cares without throwing a punch or shooting a gun or being super sassy to
• 49:07
  the men folk because whatever, maybe they are sometimes when it's called for.
• 49:12
  But anyway, so that if you if that sounds like a story that might
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  We have one hundred and seventy bucks left and I think we got uh we're
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  getting on one hour left. Yeah yeah, cutting close, yeah, cutting
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  it close. Although like this is this is gonna be an ongoing thing.
• 49:37
  So because I've just I don't I don't want to just throw the entire amount
• 49:44
  of the editing on people at once. So but anyway, if we can,
• 49:46
  if we can get that one hundred and seventy bucks left in it's it's
• 49:52
  it's like the way that it works is that when it says it's one hour,
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  it's like actually one hour and fifty nine minutes, So so it's almost
• 50:00
  two hours, but almost two hours when it says one hour. But still,
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• 50:07
  I think this is kind of message that needs to be said. I think
• 50:09
  that our current system, you know what, I don't even know who,
• 50:14
  it doesn't screw because it's screw screws masculine women, because what am I supposed
• 50:17
  to do? Like you're like, oh, masculinity is toxic. Well,
• 50:21
  okay, I guess there's a portion of my way of existing in the world
• 50:25
  gone, and then femininity is just oppression. Well well then what what the
• 50:30
  hell do you want from women? Yeah? Right? Do you just want
• 50:35
  us all to be some surly, cross eyed bitch like Craptain Marvel? Nah,
• 50:44
  I'm just I'm just being I know, I don't pay attention, so
• 50:47
  I mean, okay, she might be all right. Anyway, let's get
• 50:51
  into this clip. Here's the YouTuber. No I didn't I did not push
• 50:58
  that button. Okay, let's keep going. Well, the reason why there
• 51:00
  are so few women in STEM is not because they haven't considered whether Barbie could
• 51:04
  work in STEM. It's because they faced misogyny at every turn, from the
• 51:07
  gendered expectations of teachers to hostile and the abusive work environments. They have fewer
• 51:12
  opportunities and are paid less. Okay, So what she's saying is they're proposing.
• 51:17
  They're proposing. Yeah, so smug and thrilled about all this crap.
• 51:22
  They're proposing to have a Barbie and STEM figure. And she's saying, well,
• 51:28
  that's not going to do anything because of all the disenfranchisement that women dismantle,
• 51:32
  all the structural structures of institutional the institutions. Okay, I'm gonna blast
• 51:39
  this crap out of the water. All right. First of all, the
• 51:43
  peak of women in STEM, and what I mean by women is biologue,
• 51:45
  and there's women who were identified as women at birth. However, you want
• 51:50
  to say that women who have wombs? Shall we say women? Okay?
• 51:58
  So the peak of women who have wombs in STEM was in the mid eighties,
• 52:02
  and it was most likely as a result of the mid fifties push to
• 52:07
  view scientists as professionals who have who are patriotic, So, in other words,
• 52:15
  they're doing something for their country, and for whatever reason, that relatively
• 52:19
  gender neutral message of social, social responsibility and professionalism really appealed to a lot
• 52:28
  of women. So by the time the mid eighties rolled around, there was
• 52:32
  about seventy seventy or thirty seven percent of people in STEM more female. That
• 52:38
  declined through the eighties and the nineties and the early naughties and to something like
• 52:45
  twenty five percent, I believe, and now it's going back up again.
• 52:50
  Yeah, But what I've noticed is that it's going up again as more and
• 52:55
  more trans women. There are more and more men who realize that they are
• 53:01
  actually women and identify as women, and that as that increases, the number
• 53:07
  of women in STEM is increasing. And I'm guessing that I can only say
• 53:13
  a correlation, but I suspect the reason why women in STEM are increasing is
• 53:17
  because there are more trans women in STEM, and considering how much they're increasing,
• 53:22
  there may be a point in the future that women outnumber men in STEM,
• 53:28
  without women who have been identified at birth increasing at all in STEM.
• 53:34
  So thank you, as a trans woman, thank you. You are going
• 53:37
  to destroy the inequity in STEM. Like she's she is going to help destroy
• 53:44
  the inequity in STEM. Trans women are going to help destroy the inequity towards
• 53:47
  women in STEM, and I guess I can only guess it's because trans women,
• 53:53
  being trans women, have such a greater ability to overcome oppression than SISS
• 54:00
  women. So they're just breaking that that STEM ceiling. Because what do you
• 54:06
  mean how I mean trans women should be more oppressed than women? No,
• 54:12
  no, don't no, wait, women will listen, listen, Okay,
• 54:15
  which it could be. It could be. I mean, there's there's all
• 54:21
  kinds of ways of looking at this Intersectionally know that I'm doing this tongue in
• 54:24
  cheek, but they could be that trans women are using their previous male privilege
• 54:31
  to break through the TRANS or the STEM barrier, right, because they're supposedly
• 54:36
  have more initial privilege than SISS women. But I've been told that trans women
• 54:42
  are higher on the progressive stack, so trans women should be seen to deal
• 54:45
  with more oppression than SISS women. I'm not sure how you square that circle.
• 54:52
  But either trans women are using their male privilege to break through the barriers
• 54:57
  and STEM, or perhaps they have experience it's more oppression, so they've lived
• 55:01
  under a heavier load than CIS women and are capable of breaking the barriers that
• 55:07
  CIS women simply just cannot I don't. I mean, it couldn't possibly be
• 55:10
  some other factor that trans women have that women who are coercively identified as women
• 55:19
  at birth don't have. That's not possible. It couldn't be some quality that
• 55:22
  trans women possess that they might share with another group of you know, another
• 55:29
  gender group. Nope, nope, no, no, it is. It
• 55:32
  probably is something to do with their greater ability to push through oppression relative to
• 55:37
  CISTS women. But we have to thank our trans sisters because they are going
• 55:42
  to be removing all of the barriers that women face mysteriously to equity, and
• 55:47
  they are going to be filling in all of the gaps. So pretty soon
• 55:52
  there may be no age gap, no gap in stem, no gap in
• 55:55
  athletics, nothing. I mean, we may find that once trans women acquire
• 56:01
  their appropriate place in women's athletics, since for whatever reason, trans women have
• 56:07
  been endowed with a greater athletic prowess than than women coercively define as women,
• 56:12
  and we will find that women's sports actually make more money because you know,
• 56:17
  the the athletes in them are more physically impressive. Yes, they work harder
• 56:29
  somehow, and there because they have to wait, they have to lift more
• 56:34
  oppression. Yes, yes, yes, the weight, the weight of apsion
• 56:39
  makes more trans women, more stronger, more agile, broader, more risk
• 56:45
  taking, and athletics. You know. Yeah, it's it's the it's the
• 56:50
  it's the resistance of male pression that's making them break down all the barriers to
• 56:54
  women's equity in all kinds of different areas. While all I can say is
• 57:00
  you go girl, all right, friends, girl boss, let's let's continue.
• 57:07
  But maybe that little girls could only buy a Stem Bobby, then they
• 57:10
  would finally see that girls can do anything. If you believe in yourself,
• 57:15
  no amount of consuchny or violence can stand in your way. Am I right,
• 57:20
  ladies? I guess. I mean she's saying that the Barbie doll is
• 57:30
  not giving women jobs in STEM. It's just it's symbolic and therefore it's not
• 57:36
  good enough, which is weird because I didn't know that Mattel was responsible for
• 57:39
  putting women in STEM. I thought that those individual women were responsible for that.
• 57:45
  And and believing in yourself that doesn't that doesn't do anything. I think
• 57:51
  most of us who are adults know that it's not enough. You have to
• 57:53
  actually do the work. And the truth is is that a lot of women
• 57:59
  don't want to do the work. They have something else in mind. They
• 58:02
  want to do a white collar job somewhere. They want to get married and
• 58:06
  let the man do the work, whatever it is. So if women are
• 58:09
  not doing the thing that you think that they should be doing, because that's
• 58:12
  ultimately what this comes down to is, i'man is saying women are not doing
• 58:15
  what I think they should be doing because the numbers are bearing out differently than
• 58:19
  what I think they should be. Therefore, women should be made to do
• 58:21
  it. Oh, they're not doing it. It must be men's fault.
• 58:24
  Oh there was something else I wanted to add to this. When I was
• 58:29
  watching this and listening to her description of all this, which you know,
• 58:32
  props to her, it was sort of an interesting, like historic a look
• 58:38
  at Barbie, Barbie marketing, you know, like obviously ideologically I don't I
• 58:46
  disagree with her, but it wasn't a bad video. It wasn't terribly boring.
• 58:53
  But what I realized is she pointed out that Barbie is about consumerism.
• 58:58
  So you buy the Barbie, you buy all the outfits, so it's about
• 59:01
  it's about empowering girls by turning them into modern day consumers. And then I
• 59:07
  noticed how Barbie they started with all of the workplace outfits for the secretaries and
• 59:13
  whatever else Barbie was in the fifties and sixties, and then they started on
• 59:16
  all of the other Barbie professions and yeah, and I was like looking at
• 59:22
  that, and I was like, this is turning professions into a consumable,
• 59:28
  into a consumption item, like this is turning them into a basically a fashion
• 59:37
  accessory. And then I realized that's what we've done. We've turned jobs into
• 59:44
  fashion accessories, into consumable items and instead of actual things in which you have
• 59:53
  to work and take some kind of joy in seeing like the masculinees. Is
• 1:00:00
  that is that true for all toys or just the girls toys? I think
• 1:00:07
  it's true for how we framed work. Yeah, I guess. But I
• 1:00:12
  mean like when boys have like Tonka trucks that organ boys, that's what That's
• 1:00:20
  what I'm getting at. Okay, so we are talking about women's work,
• 1:00:22
  Okay, because boy boy toys are are usually like they involve action like stuff
• 1:00:28
  that you're doing, Like you know, I had a dump one of those.
• 1:00:30
  I had one of those dump trucks you could fill it with sand or
• 1:00:34
  dirt and then drive it around and dump it off right exactly. Or a
• 1:00:37
  fire truck that had like you know it would you could pull the holes off
• 1:00:42
  of it like it was. It was interactive in a way that made boys
• 1:00:45
  they get they got a little closer to what the job was. It was
• 1:00:50
  about the mechanics of it and stuff. It wasn't like about outfits. But
• 1:00:53
  anyway, go ahead, legos. Yeah. Like when you look at boys
• 1:01:00
  toys, they're about the actual actions being taken in the job. You look
• 1:01:05
  at girl like Barbie, it's about the uniform, the prestige, the title.
• 1:01:10
  It's about job as a consumable item, like like something you purchase.
• 1:01:19
  Remember Lincoln logs, man, I love those. You could build a cabin
• 1:01:23
  with it. Well, boy, overall point is that I think that's what
• 1:01:28
  in some ways we've approached jobs in our society. Like you look at the
• 1:01:31
  adult daycare jobs, there were basically a title and people just I don't know,
• 1:01:37
  having naps and eating latte's and and doing all this other stuff that has
• 1:01:43
  nothing to do with actual work. We did get a super child that I
• 1:01:50
  don't know, Kate went oh, let me see. I don't know because
• 1:01:54
  I I don't see it here, so it didn't go through yet. Weird.
• 1:02:00
  Okay, so anyway, this is this is from you could read the
• 1:02:05
  Super Shower. Hold on a second, let me get let me put Badger
• 1:02:07
  Chan on the screen here, Okay, go ahead. Doctor John Oakland says,
• 1:02:15
  to quote a nerdy English guy from two m Rader legend, the Sword
• 1:02:19
  in the Stone and Excalibur were two different bloody swords. I didn't know that,
• 1:02:24
  thank you. I didn't know that either. I was actually at a
• 1:02:27
  bit of a loss because I was like, wait, I thought he took
• 1:02:30
  the sword out of the stone, but now he's having from moistened bent.
• 1:02:36
  Yeah. So so the sword in the Stone, I guess was symbolic of
• 1:02:38
  him being like the one, but the EXCaliber is actually his sword. So
• 1:02:45
  I'm wondering thinking of the Sword in the Stone. I'm gonna I'm gonna try
• 1:02:50
  and get Lizzie to watch I want to watch that movie too. That's another
• 1:02:52
  Disney movie, because they were doing like movies for girls and movies for boys,
• 1:02:57
  although and everybody could watch all of them. But I want to see
• 1:03:00
  the Sword in the Stone again because that was one of my favorites with mad
• 1:03:05
  Madam mim and Merlin blow me to Bermuda. All right, next time,
• 1:03:13
  code, we'll jump ahead. Uh, let's see seventeen fifty five. So
• 1:03:20
  right here, it's like right right there, okay, since in one scene,
• 1:03:27
  Margo Robbie's Bobby says she feels ugly, and the scene pauses so that
• 1:03:30
  the narrator can make a comment about how Margot Robbie is too pretty to say
• 1:03:35
  that, And the point is for the movie to be like body image.
• 1:03:37
  Am I? Right? Ladies? Now, you can't say in your reviews
• 1:03:39
  and your tweets that the film didn't bring up body image problems. It really
• 1:03:43
  did. The feminist revolution started with Emma Watson's shoes and now here we are
• 1:03:47
  incredible. Okay. So essentially, what one of the things that Emma Watson
• 1:03:51
  said in Her and Her Oh this is number three, by the way,
• 1:03:54
  it's body is there's a two part to the yeah, oh are we looking
• 1:04:00
  at the two parts? I'm looking while I'm playing number three? So number
• 1:04:03
  two women in stem Number three is body issues, which is this body image
• 1:04:09
  whatever what women think when they look at dolls like Barbie, and it basically
• 1:04:14
  kills their soul. Yeah, but she there was a part in the original
• 1:04:17
  Emma Watson that she was talking about where she pointed out that Emma Watson got
• 1:04:23
  bell because she's a farm girl to wear sensible shoes. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:04:29
  And I just find this like, I don't know, So apparently the movie
• 1:04:33
  did not address body issues. Well, yeah, I mean it did have
• 1:04:38
  a variety of barbies. There was. There were a couple of heavy set
• 1:04:43
  barbies. It was a trans barbie. But I guess because dolls of those
• 1:04:47
  don't exist in a satisfactory way, then it's not really a try. This
• 1:04:53
  is why I'm saying, you know, this is why I like when I
• 1:04:56
  watched this video, this is why I'm like, let's stop trying to make
• 1:04:59
  these people happy because they can't. Let's just stop. Let's just satisfy the
• 1:05:03
  people who want to be happy. Let's look, let's just look to those
• 1:05:06
  people and just please them. Because these people they're not happy, and they
• 1:05:13
  don't want to be happy, and they don't want you to be happy,
• 1:05:15
  and they want everyone to be miserable just like they are. They're literally crabs
• 1:05:18
  in the bucket. Misery loves company, no fun, They're anti fun.
• 1:05:24
  I'm just so not feeling like this person's attitude. I don't want to be
• 1:05:30
  around people like this. I will avoid them at all. Almost you want
• 1:05:33
  to just be like, let them enjoy their stupid Barbie movie. Yeah,
• 1:05:38
  let well, I mean yeah, but like I think that if you,
• 1:05:43
  if you think that you're prone to this kind of nihilistic depression, I would
• 1:05:47
  avoid movies like that because it's just gonna put you deeper in the hole,
• 1:05:50
  unless that's what you want, in which case, you know, go for
• 1:05:54
  it. Whatever. How about this? How about this? I'm sure there
• 1:05:57
  are people who went to the Barbie movie and didn't try to take anything out
• 1:06:00
  of it, didn't extort their relationships, to pledge allegiance to insanity, and
• 1:06:08
  just we're like, ah, it's pink, you know what, good good
• 1:06:11
  for them. You derive some enjoyment out of something, you're not actually using
• 1:06:15
  it as a point to extort other people. And honestly that the messaging is
• 1:06:18
  so damn confused in that movie. All I can tell is that the ultimate
• 1:06:25
  message is that patriarchy is bad, but you know, also mainly good sometimes
• 1:06:29
  because they can women want to be told that everything sucks. Yeah, and
• 1:06:33
  you know what, and it's whatever. I think that's what they want.
• 1:06:38
  I mean, that's I serious. I don't think they I think that when
• 1:06:41
  at the same time they don't know what contentment looks like. They just want
• 1:06:45
  to be miserable. Yeah, but at the same time they seem to want
• 1:06:47
  to have some jolly fellow to actually be like can I can I get this
• 1:06:51
  thing? And he's like pats are on the head and says sure. You
• 1:06:55
  know, like they just they don't want they want to complain about patriarchy,
• 1:07:00
  but then they want to have patriarchy to appeal to, to be the where
• 1:07:03
  the buck stops, and they don't really want to leave the nest shows,
• 1:07:08
  so to speak. They still want to be they want to be cloistered.
• 1:07:11
  They want to complain about it, but still not you know, leave it.
• 1:07:15
  So I mean they want to be part of something that they can complain
• 1:07:17
  about, but still in the end of the day, is beneficial to them
• 1:07:20
  because patriarchy constructed Barbie Land after all. Yep, okay, and you know
• 1:07:27
  what, oh yeah, go ahead, you know what. I think that's
• 1:07:30
  okay. It's like it's like Dilbert, you know, you want to be
• 1:07:33
  employed, but you still want to grumble about the fact that your boss is
• 1:07:36
  pointy haired. I don't know. Yeah, but anyway, that was a
• 1:07:42
  number four this, I mean five addressing body image. But there is a
• 1:07:46
  part of b part to this or I'll jump ahead of that. Well,
• 1:07:50
  well, actually, keep keep watching from here. Let's see there a little
• 1:07:54
  bit more. Okay, Yeah, the film really sews itself down trying to
• 1:07:57
  anticipate all of your potential criticism. It's like they scroll through Twitter and found
• 1:08:00
  every half baked complaint about Bobby and just shoved a line in the film to
• 1:08:03
  just try to preemptively counteract it. Oh, you're noticing that kind of tiresome.
• 1:08:09
  Oh you've noticed that. You noticed that now that it's being done to
• 1:08:13
  you, Well, I mean, but is it really a criticism of Barbie
• 1:08:17
  or is it a criticism of society? Because I think that's what they're trying
• 1:08:21
  to satisfy. When when when America Ferrera does her rant at the end,
• 1:08:26
  which is the takeaway for basically every woman that watched the movie, When she
• 1:08:30
  does her rant at the end, she's not talking about the doll. She's
• 1:08:34
  talking about us. She's talking about men and women. She's talking about men
• 1:08:38
  mostly though that everything that with all of these impossible, paradoxical standards that women
• 1:08:45
  love, but also load because that is also a paradox and you have to
• 1:08:47
  embrace it because women are fucking crazy. That is not Barbie's fault. That
• 1:08:53
  is my fault. That is my father's fault, that is my brother's fault.
• 1:08:58
  That is society's fault. And it never include it's women, even though
• 1:09:00
  it should totally include women. And the suffering is unique to her, not
• 1:09:04
  to other people. Men don't deal with the same kinds of you know,
• 1:09:09
  issues of any kind. And this is what we're supposed to just take it.
• 1:09:14
  We're supposed to take it on the chin and then just go out there
• 1:09:16
  and say I'm sorry for existing, and this will make everything better. And
• 1:09:21
  that's what and that's what I think. That's what's on Twitter. The Barbie
• 1:09:26
  movie is just the latest vehicle to do that with that. You know,
• 1:09:29
  people in the chat we're saying that we're talking about this movie a lot.
• 1:09:31
  It's not that this isn't really about the doll. That's just the way that
• 1:09:36
  the normal feminist, every day complaints that have been going on for a hundred
• 1:09:41
  years are just coming out in a new packaging. But it's the same shit.
• 1:09:45
  It's always the same shit. It won't change. They're always going to
• 1:09:48
  find something a new way to complain about the same things. So they're not
• 1:09:53
  like new things, they're the same things. The only way this is going
• 1:09:57
  to change is if a literal new Gland is on the East coast, and
• 1:10:00
  then they'll still blame men for that somehow. So you know, I'm sorry,
• 1:10:06
  but this is just their mindset is so broken, it's so pessimistic.
• 1:10:13
  I don't, I don't. I'm just I'm done with these people. I
• 1:10:16
  know they have nothing to offer me. All they do is complaint. I'm
• 1:10:19
  so sick of it. I'm sorry, it's just I'm just so done.
• 1:10:24
  Anyway, Okay, you want to say something else. Yeah, let's let's
• 1:10:27
  go to the second half of all Right. I'm gonna jump ahead to be
• 1:10:30
  which is twenty one twenty Uh, let's see. Do you like jumping ahead
• 1:10:42
  music? Like, Yeah, this is basically just the new packaging of the
• 1:10:45
  old. It's the same, it's the same complaints. It's it's I mean,
• 1:10:49
  I'm serious, Like, in ten years, guys, in ten more
• 1:10:51
  years, Okay, I don't know what the Internet is gonna look like,
• 1:10:55
  I don't know if we're gonna be on, like we're gonna have a moon
• 1:10:57
  base. I don't know what's gonna be going on. But if there is
• 1:11:00
  a form of communication that exists, whether it's telepathic emails or whatever, there
• 1:11:04
  will be a bitch complaining about the world in the in the and she'll be
• 1:11:09
  making the same arguments. It doesn't matter what the world looks like. It'll
• 1:11:12
  be the same shit. So just you know, get ready because those things
• 1:11:15
  are never going away. They're never going We're gonna live with this now.
• 1:11:19
  I bet that there are there were surfs in fucking like the Middle Ages under
• 1:11:26
  like you know, there were dirt farmers and there were women complaining about men
• 1:11:30
  back then, and men that were just going along with it, like yeah,
• 1:11:33
  girl, you know I see that you have to carry more dirt than
• 1:11:38
  this guy does. It's gonna be this. It doesn't end. It's the
• 1:11:41
  same shit, man, It's the same ship. I could you could make
• 1:11:45
  a cartoon right where you have I said you have from caveman times there is
• 1:11:49
  a woman complaining and and you know feminist feminist cave people and they're bitching about
• 1:11:57
  the writing on the wall or the fact that, like you know, the
• 1:12:00
  men took too long to come back with whatever their carcasses that they were going
• 1:12:03
  to feed to the entire tribe. You can go from the cavemen to the
• 1:12:08
  fucking like you know, the Greek that you know, ancient Greece, through
• 1:12:14
  like Egypt, and on to the Renaissance or the Middle Ages, to the
• 1:12:17
  Industrial Revolution, to the Wild West, all the way up to the fucking
• 1:12:23
  far future with the with the Morlocks Underground and the time Machine movie, and
• 1:12:28
  there will be a the same woman sitting in the same position complaining about something.
• 1:12:33
  No matter how comfortable we make society, there are women bitching about it.
• 1:12:38
  And I'm so tired. I'm sorry, it's just exhausting. I can't
• 1:12:42
  believe I have to take this shiit seriously because enough people are complaining this is
• 1:12:46
  such a joke. Okay, I'm done. Well, the problem really is
• 1:12:49
  that the complaints of are starting to eat into men's sense of self and well
• 1:12:56
  yeah yeah, and and the more privilege they are, the more likely they
• 1:13:00
  are to do it. And here's the thing, like again the Barbie movie.
• 1:13:04
  And I'm pretty sure this is one of the reasons why the more extreme
• 1:13:08
  feminists are not liking it. I mean it basically just the Barbie movie ends
• 1:13:12
  with the quirky, well well intentioned patriarchy and the recognition that patriarchy creates the
• 1:13:19
  utopia of Barbie. I mean, at the end of the day, that's
• 1:13:23
  the way it is. Yeah, and uh and nothing has changed, nothing,
• 1:13:30
  And it's like this, It's like, it's like, it's not about
• 1:13:34
  the nail. You remember that video. It's not about the patriarchy. It's
• 1:13:39
  about how the patriarchy makes me feel. Yeah, like, are you going
• 1:13:44
  to remove the nail? No, no, no, no, no no,
• 1:13:45
  we don't want to remove the nail. No, you keep the nail.
• 1:13:48
  Nail's fine. It's just how the nail makes me feel. We don't
• 1:13:53
  want to remove patriarchy. Patriarchy is fine ultimately because you you. I mean,
• 1:13:58
  we don't want to say this out We say this heart silently to ourselves.
• 1:14:00
  We don't say it out loud. But you always do what we want
• 1:14:02
  anyway. It's about how you make me us feel when you do what we
• 1:14:05
  want, you know. It's like, that's that is the Barbie movie.
• 1:14:11
  It's like, oh, yes, the patriarchy is horrible, but are you
• 1:14:14
  going to change it? Are you gonna get rid of the nail. No,
• 1:14:15
  no, we're just going to complain about it, okay. And I'm
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  like, okay, well that's really pointless. Do you ever spend a moment
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  to think about how this entire construct of men is being responsible for horrible things
• 1:14:32
  might be hurting men. No, no, no, we don't have to
• 1:14:36
  worry about that, because men are infinitely powerful. Yep. But and then
• 1:14:42
  this woman is of course complaining because while patriarchy is presented as something that's ultimately
• 1:14:46
  good because it constructed the utopia of Bardi Land, and Will Ferrell is charming,
• 1:14:51
  you know, like, yeah, well, the men aren't demonized enough,
• 1:14:55
  right, They're just I'm silly, it's not radical enough. I'm supposed
• 1:15:00
  to. I'm supposed to just listen to this and take it seriously. Anyway,
• 1:15:04
  Let's let's get to the second. So this is the b part of
• 1:15:08
  the body positivity thing. She kind of circles back to it. So let's
• 1:15:12
  play that boy's feeling bad about our bodies that since watching the film, we
• 1:15:16
  had come out feeling worse about how we look. I'm not actually supposed because
• 1:15:21
  well, no shit, I mean like, but you know, you know
• 1:15:26
  what I don't actually Okay, go ahead, awesome, I'm not really I'm
• 1:15:30
  not really exactly a Barbie Mold type woman, and I don't be dramatized by
• 1:15:36
  that. We aren't you weeping? You know? You ever see the meme
• 1:15:41
  where there's like a woe Jack girl looking at a like a Barbie doll,
• 1:15:48
  or like a superhero woman or a character from Overwatch, like a like a
• 1:15:53
  like a very attractive female character, and she's like, why I can never
• 1:15:57
  look like that? What's with these unrealistic body stay sanards? And then there's
• 1:16:00
  like a Chad Man looking at like a he Man doll or a drawing of
• 1:16:04
  he Man, or like some Dragon ball Z character, and he's like,
• 1:16:08
  man, I gotta go to the gym so I could look like that.
• 1:16:10
  Like that's literally what this is, you know, like women, I don't
• 1:16:15
  know why, but women are torn apart by the notion that attractive women exist,
• 1:16:19
  but men are inspired or they don't say shit, they just let it
• 1:16:24
  go. Yeah, you know, you know I missed. I missed putting
• 1:16:28
  in one where she starts talking about how Mattel doesn't want to use the word
• 1:16:32
  feminist. Yeah, yeah, that is that is. That is pretty hilarious,
• 1:16:39
  but no, I think we might have gotten it with Okay, so
• 1:16:43
  this is be that that basically was just that's it for yeah, where she's
• 1:16:46
  like, you know, I they want to address body body issues or body
• 1:16:51
  I guess image stuff. But I felt worse after seeing what an actual woman
• 1:16:57
  because I remember the feminist argument against Barby was that her proportions didn't make sense
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  because of a woman actually had those proportions, they wouldn't be able to stand
• 1:17:04
  up and walk. And it's like, yeah, but it's a fucking doll
• 1:17:08
  like that, you know, Okay whatever, right, and then the pronountions
• 1:17:13
  that she has is so that she looks because the proportionate like compared to her
• 1:17:17
  size, the fabric is a lot thicker than it would be for a normal
• 1:17:24
  world scale. Right, so she's supposed to look good in the clothes,
• 1:17:29
  right right, Yeah, no, I know, but they complain of and
• 1:17:30
  this is old. I remember this as a video a news clip years ago,
• 1:17:35
  like in the eighties, where there was a woman saying Barbie's body is
• 1:17:40
  not realistic and a woman like this couldn't actually exist, and it was and
• 1:17:43
  I was too young to like see how batshit and saying that was, but
• 1:17:48
  now they're looking at a real woman, Margot. Robbie is real, that's
• 1:17:53
  her body, and they're they're feeling bad about it, you know, like
• 1:17:58
  it's up. Is it unrealistic? You? That's you? Got it?
• 1:18:00
  Pretty sure it's realistic, Robbie, you cannot win? Well, yeah,
• 1:18:04
  she's good cheese. Oh, can I suggest I suggest you don't watch any
• 1:18:09
  TV or movies because yeah, it's not like Robbie is unusual for she's a
• 1:18:15
  female heroin Attractive women are everywhere anyway, especially So this is like number three.
• 1:18:24
  Apparently the Barbie movie, Yeah, made this woman, this trans woman
• 1:18:28
  feel bad about her body. Okay, let's go to number four, eighteen
• 1:18:33
  thirty, so right here, Okay, Yeah, pretty tiresome. But that's
• 1:18:39
  because this isn't really a film about feminism. It's a mainstream Before this,
• 1:18:44
  she talks about how Mattel doesn't actually refer to themselves as feminist. Yeah,
• 1:18:48
  because they should, Yeah, because because the labels everything else. And this
• 1:18:53
  goes back to what you know, when when you get into well, when
• 1:18:56
  I get into discussions with people are watching h about feminism and people feel the
• 1:19:02
  need to they're really protective of the label. They're very protective. Like if
• 1:19:08
  I say, well, yeah, I care about women's issues, Oh,
• 1:19:10
  then you're a feminist. No I'm not, but I care about Well you
• 1:19:15
  can't be. You can't be for quality and not be a feminist. Why
• 1:19:17
  are you? Why are you caping for this word? I know why because
• 1:19:21
  it has power and they know that. That's why she's butt hurt because Mattel
• 1:19:26
  didn't want to use the word because they knew that if they did use the
• 1:19:29
  word, it would turn people off. I mean, but they use the
• 1:19:31
  word patriarchy like a thousand times in the movie, so it's not like it
• 1:19:35
  wasn't implicit, you know. Yeah, oh I have somebody to think.
• 1:19:41
  Oh good. So okay, I want to thank hyper Chicken for one hundred
• 1:19:46
  dollars. Thank you, hyper Chicken, thank you, which means we have
• 1:19:49
  is too big. We have seventy dollars to go in one hour left,
• 1:19:55
  so hopefully we can make it once again. Let's feed the badget slash.
• 1:20:00
  I uh and uh yeah, I'd be great if I could get the next
• 1:20:05
  round of editing funded. And I just wanted to say, okay. So
• 1:20:14
  she says that they need to use the word right, feminism Now, feminism
• 1:20:17
  why is it that that's so critical. It's because feminism is a particular approach
• 1:20:23
  to equality that always presumes that women are not equal to men, no matter
• 1:20:28
  what, even when they're even even if you have, like I don't know,
• 1:20:31
  three metrics, men and women are actually in a better position than men
• 1:20:35
  on two of them. If that women is not women as a general are
• 1:20:40
  not in a better position on the third one, then it's inequality in favor
• 1:20:45
  of men, even though by definition it's actually inequality in favor of women.
• 1:20:49
  And the other thing is that once you get inequality in all three metrics in
• 1:20:54
  favor of women, then they go even more, They go down a level
• 1:20:59
  and they say, well, women are a minority of the people who have
• 1:21:02
  faced this problem, therefore they should be focused on Have you notice that,
• 1:21:09
  like, women are only ten percent of the unsheltered or five percent of the
• 1:21:13
  unsheltered homeless, Therefore they're not being served by the current system and should be
• 1:21:17
  her focused on her pidurp as victims of unsheltered homelessness. So it since say
• 1:21:24
  those three metrics women are in a better situation than men in every single one
• 1:21:29
  of those metrics, than they change the entire focus and they say, well,
• 1:21:33
  because women are minorities in these problems, now they're even more underserved.
• 1:21:42
  What's wrong with them trying to reach the widest possible audience? Is that what
• 1:21:45
  you want to do when you make a piece of art, you want people
• 1:21:48
  to see it. Because she's having a problem with the fact that they're afraid
• 1:21:53
  that if they use the feminist the word feminist, right, it will turn
• 1:21:58
  people off, which it fucking should. But but they didn't use it,
• 1:22:02
  and she thinks, oh, it's just because they're greedy corporations with capitalism and
• 1:22:08
  they want to get the widest possible audience. Well, I'm sorry, Like,
• 1:22:11
  are they not supposed to make money? Do you know how much it
• 1:22:13
  costs to do this shit? Do you not want Margot Robbie to get paid?
• 1:22:16
  Like, like, you know, it's a woman. I'm just saying,
• 1:22:20
  like, none of this, none of this makes sense. That's all,
• 1:22:24
  Okay, don't let's keep going. Let's keep going. So she has
• 1:22:26
  more to say on the issue of workers rights. Yeah, well audience trying
• 1:22:30
  to reach everyone at the same time without saying anything of any real substance.
• 1:22:34
  Oh no, they said something of substances. Do you want to know what
• 1:22:36
  they said of substance. They said that the patriarchy creates female utopia, which
• 1:22:42
  is one true, and that the patriarchy is mostly good, and that women
• 1:22:47
  want to complain but they don't want to actually do anything about it. In
• 1:22:50
  fact, if you didn't, if women did not have something to complain about,
• 1:22:54
  I think that they would feel less womanly. Okay, let's keep going.
• 1:22:59
  I think that was that was That was one of my the more that
• 1:23:01
  I think about it, that was my biggest takeaway from Barbie. The patriarchy.
• 1:23:06
  Yeah, patriarchy is not not perfect, but it's it's pretty good.
• 1:23:13
  Warren Farrell's charming and quirky patriarch that that's made sure that his barbies have been
• 1:23:17
  taken care of. He's even given them a bunch of unuchs to step on.
• 1:23:24
  Yea. So it ultimately, at the end of the day, can
• 1:23:28
  you really say, well, will Farrell not Warren Farls? Well, I'm
• 1:23:31
  more used to saying that the work it's okay. So what can you really
• 1:23:36
  say about patriarchy, lady? Really? What can you say? It's even
• 1:23:42
  given you breasts? Wow? Because while the film can call out problems like
• 1:23:48
  Bobby and body image, a popular topic which probably everyone has had at least
• 1:23:53
  one conversation about there are other problems they can never confront. A few years
• 1:23:57
  ago, China Labor Watch sent undercover investigations Intimatetel's factories in China, where they
• 1:24:01
  make their toys, including barbies, and they found that life for the women
• 1:24:05
  who make barbie isn't so great. Pausing for the banana because I don't know
• 1:24:12
  how crazy this person's going to be about copyright or whatever property. I mean,
• 1:24:17
  she's a communist, so she shouldn't care about property, but I guess
• 1:24:20
  that she would flag the shit out of us, so because you know they're
• 1:24:24
  hypocrites. For instance, they found that most workers were women and most higher
• 1:24:29
  ups were men. Female workers reported regular verbal abuse and humiliation by line managers.
• 1:24:33
  Workers dormitories housed up to ten people per room and were infested by fleas,
• 1:24:39
  mosquitoes, and other bugs. There was no hot water in the showers,
• 1:24:42
  the cold water was dirty, and the toilets had no doors. The
• 1:24:45
  food in the cafeterias was served on dirty dishes, and workers found hair and
• 1:24:49
  cockroaches in their meals. I'm just pausing. That's a sweatshop, That's it.
• 1:24:57
  Sounds like a sweatshop, sounds like there's a desert. Maybe we shouldn't
• 1:25:00
  be I don't know, having try to make ship for us. I mean,
• 1:25:03
  I'm okay, Well here's here's the other thing. Like, if you
• 1:25:06
  want your dollar to buy anything, you sort of have to accept this now.
• 1:25:11
  M h. Otherwise, if your dollar is only going to buy stuff
• 1:25:15
  made in the US, uh, yeah, that's gonna be like feminist T
• 1:25:23
  shirts and pussy hats and stuff. Yeah, there all maiden sweatshops. So
• 1:25:30
  yes, all of it is because that's the system and you're not really changing
• 1:25:33
  it at all. And I wanted to point out to this like this is
• 1:25:36
  this is a situation where these these workers are living in a horrible circumstance in
• 1:25:42
  order to construct goods for the West. And this is something I pointed out,
• 1:25:48
  I think on one of the shows we did with Tilder. If you
• 1:25:53
  look at women's behavior in the West in terms of selecting mates, they want
• 1:25:58
  men to earn twice as much as they do. Now, now, why
• 1:26:01
  would you want a man who makes twice as much, Well, so you
• 1:26:05
  can buy twice as much. So, in other words, if we were
• 1:26:10
  able, if men were able to accommodate women's desires in their partners. So
• 1:26:15
  if men, as Jordan Peterson basically says, women get to have whatever desires
• 1:26:20
  they want, men need to live up to them. If men actually lived
• 1:26:26
  up to Western women's desires and a partner, we would need another earth of
• 1:26:31
  resources. Like literally, women are we? Women aren't We are at the
• 1:26:38
  potentially at the limit of what the earth can provide, you know, probably,
• 1:26:45
  I mean, if we if we started to look more into conservation.
• 1:26:46
  I am not not I am sort of also a greenie, but I just
• 1:26:53
  I've always found it really disturbing that the one thing that one out of all
• 1:26:57
  of the other environmental issues was the one thing that you know, leads to
• 1:27:00
  more taxes. What a surprise. But regardless, you know, if if
• 1:27:05
  women really got what they wanted tomorrow from men, we would literally need another
• 1:27:12
  earth to accommodate their their material desires. Okay, So when are we going
• 1:27:17
  to address that? When are we going to address that? Western feminism actually,
• 1:27:24
  and it doesn't even just lead to the subjectation of women in sweatshops.
• 1:27:29
  It also when you look at the like the literal financials of feminist NGOs when
• 1:27:33
  it comes to domestic violence. They are literally using battered women as a cash
• 1:27:39
  cow. All right, when are we going to address all of this crap,
• 1:27:45
  which you incidentally falls quite neatly under the rubric of the evil Queen and
• 1:27:53
  snow White who is who is has competition with another woman and uses her as
• 1:27:59
  a as a base resource for herself. You notice that, and how we
• 1:28:02
  no longer want to have that conversation. No, Western women are just going
• 1:28:06
  to be allowed to act like the the evil queen from snow White towards every
• 1:28:11
  other woman on the planet. Okay, so I'm sort of sympathetic with her
• 1:28:15
  on this issue, Like you're not doing it much of anything for women overall,
• 1:28:18
  and feminism doesn't do much of anything for women overall. It's an advocacy
• 1:28:24
  movement for itself, and right now it is it is a shield for corporate
• 1:28:30
  and government excess and overreach. Yeah, I'll just lay it right that corporate
• 1:28:34
  government and feminist NGEO and feminist charity overreach. They're using women as a shield
• 1:28:45
  for their own bullshit. Okay, alright, alright, I got a rumble
• 1:28:50
  rant from Oiken wooeee. I always get. I don't know if that you
• 1:28:55
  just tell me how to pronounce that shit, because I'm really getting sick of
• 1:28:58
  struggling with it. This dollar and says, eat the bugs totally normal working
• 1:29:01
  conditions of the future. I mean, if you're gonna cape for China in
• 1:29:05
  every other instance, then you can't say shit about this. So you know
• 1:29:10
  we gotten well she doesn't necessarily, but she doesn't what she doesn't mentioned the
• 1:29:16
  flattery of China with the lines and the yeah yeah, yeah, no,
• 1:29:19
  for sure, this movie actually is reinforcing China's territorial ambitions. And like I
• 1:29:28
  think it's the the like the Asian Ocean or let me, I'll look up
• 1:29:34
  my geography and my geography in the area is weak. Sorry guys, but
• 1:29:39
  yeah, go ahead. Brian Well, I was gonna say, like,
• 1:29:42
  you know, you can you you don't have to buy from China, like
• 1:29:45
  I got a new well I had this. It's like a leash, one
• 1:29:51
  of those retractable leashes, you know, where it comes on a spool and
• 1:29:56
  and you pull. It's this self story self China. This lets the dog,
• 1:30:00
  you know, get get some distance so Jojo can go sniff some stuff
• 1:30:04
  and I don't have to like right, you know, be right behind him.
• 1:30:06
  It's a retractable leash, and Lindsay's on this program at Amazon. It's
• 1:30:13
  called Amazon Vine, and what it is is they send you free things,
• 1:30:16
  but you do have to pay taxes on him and you have to write a
• 1:30:20
  review on it. And this is so that people who are like you know,
• 1:30:24
  presenting a new product or or something like that, they can get people
• 1:30:28
  to try their product and then use the reviews, if they're good reviews,
• 1:30:30
  to sell the product. It's kind of ingenious. It's a good idea.
• 1:30:34
  And so she got a retractable leash through vine. And the retractable leash through
• 1:30:41
  vine that she got it turns out to be a lower quality one that is
• 1:30:46
  made in China. But the one that we had before, which I got
• 1:30:50
  like way back, like I got it with my old dog. So I've
• 1:30:55
  had this this thing for like probably at least fifteen years and it's still really
• 1:31:00
  good, Like it's you know, it's sturdy. I never had a problem
• 1:31:03
  with it. And it was made in Germany, so by German is what
• 1:31:08
  I'm saying, you know, just or or look, because I'm sure that
• 1:31:14
  there are people in other parts of the world that are trying to like get
• 1:31:17
  eyes on their things and The fact is that that one probably costs a little
• 1:31:21
  bit more. I don't even remember how much it was, but I've had
• 1:31:25
  it for so long and it's still good. So anyway, the Germans were
• 1:31:30
  good at one thing was making sure all right, oh I see would work?
• 1:31:36
  Oh I see, thank you, Oh I see. And he gives
• 1:31:41
  us a dollar and says that, all right, thank you. Let's try
• 1:31:44
  I play more of this, or let's fish it up, all right.
• 1:31:47
  The pay was so low that workers had to work illegal amounts of overtime if
• 1:31:51
  they wanted to make a living wage. They described production targets as inhumane,
• 1:31:56
  and they were not provided with safety equipment even when working with dangerous material as
• 1:32:00
  Female workers reported a climate of frequent and trivialized sexual harassment when the tell was
• 1:32:04
  made harassment, of course, of course they did. They comes back to
• 1:32:10
  men, doesn't it. Even Yeah, I'm actually thinking the line managers are
• 1:32:13
  probably women, and a lot of the harassment is coming from that. But
• 1:32:17
  you know whatever, I mean, honestly, who knows. But yeah,
• 1:32:25
  this is this is uh, it's not like feminism really cares about women.
• 1:32:30
  Sorry, news flash, lady. Yeah, feminism is a is a sales
• 1:32:33
  pitch. And also it was it was originally coined by a man, and
• 1:32:38
  it's basic premise was constructed by a man. And now it's a sales pitch.
• 1:32:43
  And they do not care about you, and they don't care about women.
• 1:32:45
  They certainly don't care about men. But you know, nobody expects them
• 1:32:48
  too. Really, but the what's really, what is really a was a
• 1:32:54
  black pill for me, was that they don't care about women. They're just
• 1:32:57
  going to use you to make money. And that's it. And you guys
• 1:33:00
  just keep falling for it over and over and over again. Yeah, okay,
• 1:33:05
  because they got your number, ladies, they got your number. Yeah,
• 1:33:11
  they understand it's not the nail keep going, all right? So should
• 1:33:17
  I jump to number five or play a little bit more of this one?
• 1:33:20
  Oh, let's jump to number five, right, Number five is okay.
• 1:33:24
  Number twenty's twenty one minutes in, so I'll just go to rak here all
• 1:33:30
  right, here we go. They know exactly what's going on at their factories,
• 1:33:32
  but that wouldn't stop them demanding higher production targets for lower production costs.
• 1:33:38
  That's just business, baby. You can't go bust without just a little bit
• 1:33:41
  of labor exploitation. Yes, and Oh, actually, so four and five
• 1:33:45
  is bleeding into each other. Yes, yeah, this is about women exploiting
• 1:33:50
  other women and men, well, I mean and the men that they that
• 1:33:56
  they are they have influence over. Okay, that's what it's about. That's
• 1:34:00
  what feminism is. It's why I keep telling people women owe feminism nothing.
• 1:34:05
  Feminism owes women everything, everything, every bit of its ill gotten gains,
• 1:34:13
  okay, every bit of its influence. Because it says that the only reason
• 1:34:16
  that men care about women is because of feminism. That's the implication, and
• 1:34:20
  it's absolute bullshit that feminism did not create men caring about women or women's concerns,
• 1:34:27
  and that people have said, well, why should women care if men
• 1:34:29
  care about them? Well, because who else are you going to beseech to
• 1:34:33
  address your concerns When you're constantly rendering yourself victims of everything, Like literally,
• 1:34:39
  you think that you are a victim of everything. You have no power in
• 1:34:43
  society. Who are you going to ask to address your problems if that's the
• 1:34:46
  case, If you're not willing to look at where you have power and build
• 1:34:50
  out from there, who are you accept Who are going to who's gonna help
• 1:34:55
  you with your problems? So you by definition, have to care about men.
• 1:34:59
  So feminism says, or at least implies, that it made men care
• 1:35:04
  about women. That if without feminism, women would live in a world where
• 1:35:10
  they're constantly being beaten and raped by their husbands and fathers and sons. That's
• 1:35:15
  the implication. Well, it's bullshit. Feminism didn't create men caring about women.
• 1:35:20
  Feminism didn't create men protecting and providing for women. Feminism exploits men's desire
• 1:35:28
  to protect and provide for women to construct an ideological position, a political a
• 1:35:34
  way of creating political coercion, a way of developing money, all at the
• 1:35:41
  expense of actually addressing the women's issues that they say that they advocate for but
• 1:35:46
  instead ruthlessly exploit. All Right, that is big box feminism, and all
• 1:35:54
  of you who buy into it are being pied piper to your own detriment.
• 1:36:02
  Like you're you're you're embracing a nonsense view of history that destroys your sense of
• 1:36:09
  well being. Look at the numbers on women's sense of happiness and wellbeing.
• 1:36:14
  They're declining year after year. It's getting worse and worse and worse. Okay,
• 1:36:19
  this has been the highest level of misery among women. This is this
• 1:36:26
  is the thing. Feminism is consuming your well being. It's giving you back
• 1:36:31
  misery and in exchange for what what? Yeah? What? Women have always
• 1:36:42
  worked, Women have always had a say in their government. Women have always
• 1:36:45
  been respected as members of their families as well. It used to be even
• 1:36:50
  more respected as wise women and matrons and babushkas. That that role is completely
• 1:36:56
  gone. Now every woman is basically scrambling for the rest of her life to
• 1:37:00
  look like a sixteen year old child instead of just growing into a role of
• 1:37:08
  wisdom okay, or a roll of strength is a matron. The only thing
• 1:37:14
  left to you is the role of wretch, beautiful, useless victim. And
• 1:37:20
  that's all you scramble for. It's why your body, that's why this whole
• 1:37:26
  beauty ideal is so so devastating. Well, you don't have any other virtue.
• 1:37:31
  You don't have snow White's virtues. Snow White will have her virtues until
• 1:37:35
  she's dead. She will still be kind, she will still be willing to
• 1:37:44
  help someone in need. She'll still have her bravery and courage in the face
• 1:37:48
  of adversity. But a feminist woman, once she hits the wall, she
• 1:37:56
  no longer has the power that makes her value as a wretch, as someone
• 1:38:02
  who constantly beseeches others to help her anyway. So we gave up all of
• 1:38:10
  that, all of that sense of well being, all of that development,
• 1:38:13
  all of our archetypes for what an increasing level of misery and despair, which
• 1:38:19
  we Feminism then says, yeah, blame it on patriarchy. Really, do
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  you know that in most traditional societies they do have roles for women who are
• 1:38:30
  older than twenty five. You know, in almost traditional societies they don't actually
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  put Barbie as the height of feminine beauty. You know that in most traditional
• 1:38:45
  societies women have the wherewithal to actually be higher. The representation and stem is
• 1:38:51
  actually higher than in Western societies, Like all of this stuff. They're doing
• 1:38:58
  better than we are in terms of women's wellbeing. They're doing better than we
• 1:39:01
  are in terms of representation and STEMP, they're doing better than we are often
• 1:39:06
  in terms of wage gap. They're doing better than we are in terms of
• 1:39:10
  women. They say, misery, Yes, they're doing better, and so
• 1:39:14
  what is feminism giving to women? The answer is fuck at all except misery.
• 1:39:23
  And women always had the ability to arrange their lives in a way that
• 1:39:27
  made them comfortable and happy unless they were living in war torn countries or devastating
• 1:39:35
  theocracies or whatever which everyone was miserable. Or communism. Incidentally, communism is
• 1:39:43
  the closest you'll ever get to the Handmaiden's tale. By the way, someone
• 1:39:45
  would explain that someone told me that it was communism, and Hungary is the
• 1:39:49
  closest he's ever seen getting to the handmaiden's tale. So there you go.
• 1:39:54
  Keep keep pushing socialism and communism and also a radical transactive, because radical transactivists
• 1:40:01
  will remove the kind of I don't know, spiritual value that women have as
• 1:40:08
  as a result of being mothers. Then the womb just becomes another way of
• 1:40:12
  serving your communists overlord or over ladies. But anyway, so what is it?
• 1:40:18
  What is it the feminism is actually giving women? It certainly isn't giving
• 1:40:21
  women the femtope, yet has absolutely no steps for that, aside from maybe
• 1:40:26
  asking it from from from Will Ferrell as the patriarch. All right, let's
• 1:40:30
  get back to this, alright, that's fine, all right? Uh twenty
• 1:40:34
  one oh nine, Liz, Yeah, a little bit more day after watching
• 1:40:39
  the film, like how writes it, Oda and I both we're feeling a
• 1:40:42
  little down, and after all, we started talking about what was bothering us,
• 1:40:45
  and we found that we are feeling bad about our bodies. This is
• 1:40:48
  the body thing. Okay, well well yeah, yeah, I just wanted
• 1:40:51
  to do the girl Boss. You can't do a bit of girl You can't
• 1:40:55
  girl boss with a bit of labor exploitation. Yeah, you can't do feminism
• 1:40:59
  without exploiting other women. Yeah, that's a great irony in all of this.
• 1:41:03
  So the next thing is twenty two. This is part B of the
• 1:41:08
  Yeah. Oh yeah, that's this is where it is classic wrap in in
• 1:41:13
  workers rights thing. No, no, no, it's it's part B of
• 1:41:15
  you can't girl Boss with a little bit of women. Yeah, okay,
• 1:41:19
  let's play that women face every day. They want us to feel that Bobby's
• 1:41:25
  not an it, not a successful brand. Okay, let me, let
• 1:41:29
  me explain what's going on here. Yeah, this is five B all right.
• 1:41:32
  So she's discovering that Mattela is a corporation, is using Barbie as a
• 1:41:38
  shield to reject claims of being misogynist. So instead of saying that Barbie promotes
• 1:41:45
  body image problems and girls, they say that barb you know, you're just
• 1:41:49
  being mean to Barbie. M Well, yes, that's what a lot of
• 1:41:55
  governments and corporations do. They use women as shields literally what you yeah?
• 1:42:00
  Yeah, Well also government, Like when feminists say that without government, men
• 1:42:06
  would be horrible exploiters of women, they have constructed the most powerful argument for
• 1:42:15
  justifying government overreach. There is no more powerful argument then if government didn't exist,
• 1:42:21
  women or women would be horribly pressed by their men folk. Like this
• 1:42:25
  is this is the ground zero, the big, the fat boy of justifying
• 1:42:30
  government intrusion into everyone's lives. Like, as long as you have that narrative,
• 1:42:38
  you will eventually live in a police state. No offense. But you
• 1:42:42
  cannot have that narrative and have a free society. Eventually, it will it
• 1:42:45
  will end up being a nightmare of authoritarian control because nobody can, nobody can
• 1:42:51
  fight against it. It's like, well, if the government wasn't able to
• 1:42:56
  search, seize your property and search it at well, you might be able
• 1:42:59
  to h you might be able to oppress your women folk. Okay, as
• 1:43:04
  long as that narrative exists in society, you are living in a proto police
• 1:43:10
  state. Okay, that's just the way it is, and that's that's how
• 1:43:15
  government justifies itself, and it's also how corporations shield themselves from criticism. She's
• 1:43:23
  she's going through how Mattel is shielding itself from criticism by hiding behind Barbie itself.
• 1:43:30
  So any criticism of Mattel has become criticism of Barbie. That's what she's
• 1:43:33
  saying, and it's actually a brilliant point, but she doesn't take it to
• 1:43:38
  its logical conclusion and realize that that's what feminism is. It's a shield for
• 1:43:43
  government, it's a shield for corporations. It's a shield for feminist charities that
• 1:43:49
  want to use women suffering to make money without doing anything to prevent or reduce
• 1:43:57
  that suffering, and in fact, embracing stuff that won't likely will lead to
• 1:44:00
  more raped and beaten women. Okay, let's keep going all right? So
• 1:44:06
  okay, but is she a victim, a person, a woman? She
• 1:44:15
  may be selling you cosmetics for smooth, firm skin, but only because she
• 1:44:18
  too has felt the shame of cellulite. The film is a great ad,
• 1:44:25
  but is it feminist? Okay, lady again, remember when I said that
• 1:44:29
  the only thing left to women in the feminist conjecture is wretch like you don't
• 1:44:34
  have. You aren't creating any virtues. You're not becoming greater or better,
• 1:44:40
  you're not developing yourself as people. All you're doing is embracing being victims of
• 1:44:44
  everything. And honestly, the only thing that makes you interesting is your looks
• 1:44:50
  when you're a victim of everything. The only thing that gives you power is
• 1:44:56
  your looks when you're a victim of everything. Feminism has constructed the beauty ideal.
• 1:45:02
  It's and these male driven corporations are coming in and allowing you to continue
• 1:45:12
  to be the luminous wretch for as long as humanly possible. But you chose
• 1:45:16
  the role, lady, Well maybe not you, but feminism chose the role
• 1:45:20
  for you, luminous wretch. That's all women get out of their lives.
• 1:45:27
  And you cannot blame men for allowing you to occupy the role as long as
• 1:45:31
  possible, for creating the means to prop up the you in that role as
• 1:45:40
  long as possible, to remove those wrinkles so you retain the eternal, the
• 1:45:45
  beauty of the eternal, helpless, empty wretch that feminism says that you are.
• 1:45:51
  Okay, I'm done. That's all there is. I think that's all
• 1:45:56
  the clips. Yeah, so yeah, I mean you know, uh okay,
• 1:46:01
  well I have another thank you? Oh good good, yeah cool.
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  Do you think we got there yet? Uh no, we're about twenty twenty
• 1:46:10
  from there and I think we're down to let me see, uh ten minutes.
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  Uh ten minutes okay, but how far away are we? Uh well,
• 1:46:26
  I actually don't know when the precise rollover is. I think it's just
• 1:46:30
  ten minutes to get that twenty bucks. Okay, So if you're if you're
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  just a second. Uh oh, I think it was the great Indoors who
• 1:46:54
  gave us fifty dollars with that the previous super show. Thank you all all
• 1:47:00
  right, So do you have any final thoughts on all of this? I
• 1:47:02
  think, you know, honestly, yes, we're talking about the Barbie movie
• 1:47:05
  again, but really we're talking about you know, it's not really about Yeah,
• 1:47:12
  it's not really about the Barber movie. Think about it, like this
• 1:47:14
  is what I think. I think that every time there's some new cultural thing
• 1:47:19
  that happens, feminists have something to say about it, and and they're they're
• 1:47:25
  you know, they're extremely They use manipative language, they use the cry victim,
• 1:47:29
  they do all usual things, and this is not It's like I said,
• 1:47:31
  it's never gonna end because there's always something new happening, and that means
• 1:47:35
  there's always something new for feminists to complain about. So we're basically just responding
• 1:47:40
  to like the I guess you could say the framing. And also what I
• 1:47:45
  think the takeaway from me from this is what I've also been saying is that
• 1:47:49
  these people are never happy because no matter like the Barbie movie is pretty feminist,
• 1:47:55
  and the books you've been reading are far worse, and I bet this
• 1:47:59
  woman would complain about those. So I'm saying, like, there's there's it's
• 1:48:02
  never enough because there is not about the nail. It's yeah, it's not
• 1:48:06
  about the nail. There is no satisfaction. Embrace the paradox whatever you want
• 1:48:11
  to call it. So super frustrating, hard to like wrestle with, but
• 1:48:15
  it is our reality. Can I just can I mention the thing that I
• 1:48:19
  was trying to tell you about that you were distracted by? And Okay,
• 1:48:24
  go ahead, all right, So so this is there's a little bit of
• 1:48:29
  backstory here. But like for any of you guys that are patrons or hang
• 1:48:32
  out on our discord or whatever, for a long time, I mean like
• 1:48:36
  years. We used to remember, we used to do these shows in Google
• 1:48:41
  hangouts and then when it was over, we'd bring the patrons in and they'd
• 1:48:44
  hang out with us in the after shows. Do you remember that, Alison,
• 1:48:46
  Google hangouts? Okay, well we wouldn't like stream those, but we
• 1:48:50
  would just hang out in Google Hangouts after the stream went offline. So going
• 1:48:55
  back as far as that, we'd used to joke about running a people would
• 1:49:02
  like to watch us play a game of Dungeons and Dragons with all of the
• 1:49:06
  badgers, so be you and Hannah and Karen and me and Randomercam and so
• 1:49:13
  on. And for a long time, people would bug me. They'd be
• 1:49:15
  like, are you gonna do it? Or you're gonna do it? And
• 1:49:17
  I basically was like, I don't think it's ever gonna happen, because we're
• 1:49:20
  in different time zones spread out all over the globe. It's just one of
• 1:49:25
  these things that is not likely to happen. However, there was this video
• 1:49:30
  game that just launched called Baldo's Gate three, which is supposed to be really
• 1:49:34
  great in a lot of ways, and I thought, well, maybe when
• 1:49:38
  that game comes out, I can What I can do is I can build
• 1:49:42
  all of the all the Badgers as D and D adventurers with the classes and
• 1:49:46
  the races and try to get the appearance as close as possible or whatever,
• 1:49:49
  and then play online, stream it to you guys. You guys can like
• 1:49:54
  give feedback, we can talk about it whatever, have some fun. It
• 1:49:58
  would just be fun. Unfortunately, it turns out that Baldus Gate three doesn't
• 1:50:02
  let you do that. It's it's only it has co op, but I
• 1:50:05
  think it doesn't really let you play like as one player with multiple characters.
• 1:50:11
  So I was kind of bummed out. And then I was just kind of
• 1:50:15
  looking around and Steam because my soundboard thing that I use it uses a Steam
• 1:50:21
  app called sound something I forget and sound Pad, and so I opened up
• 1:50:29
  Steam and I saw never Winter Nights two was on my library because I bought
• 1:50:33
  it. I didn't buy it, but I bought this package of like a
• 1:50:38
  ship ton of games from this one development studio that was closing down, and
• 1:50:42
  it's told everything for really cheap, and so I just bought the whole package
• 1:50:45
  because it came with the stuff that I was interested in, and I didn't
• 1:50:47
  realize that this was there. So I was like, oh, maybe I
• 1:50:53
  can do that in Neverwinter Nights too, And even though this game is older
• 1:50:57
  and it looks a little older, it holy works and I can do it.
• 1:51:00
  So what I'm letting you guys know is I'm planning on doing a session
• 1:51:06
  on Honey Badger Arcade where I will build the party and I want you guys
• 1:51:12
  to join me there for that you can help me go through the motions.
• 1:51:15
  I already know, like what Allison's class is gonna be, and what Karen's
• 1:51:18
  class is gonna be, I already know it. So here's what I'm gonna
• 1:51:21
  do. Let me tell you how I'm gonna set it up. Okay,
• 1:51:25
  So Hannah's gonna be a warlock because she has like a background in Wicca and
• 1:51:30
  I think it's a good fit. So she's gonna be a Warlock. I
• 1:51:32
  don't know what the race is gonna be. It it might just be human,
• 1:51:34
  I haven't decided. Karen is definitely gonna be a berserker, like a
• 1:51:39
  like a barbarian. What right I think they allow that. I'm just I
• 1:51:44
  haven't looked into it. But Karen's gonna be a barbarian. I think you're
• 1:51:47
  gonna be a paladin. That's what I'm thinking you're gonna be. Yeah,
• 1:51:50
  So you and Karen are gonna be the frontline people, the paladin and the
• 1:51:56
  barbarian. And doctor Rando mccam is gonna be a bar because of course he
• 1:52:00
  is right. And I don't know how many you can have in a party,
• 1:52:05
  so I don't know what the number is. But I'll be a cleric
• 1:52:10
  and and I think that it's a cleric wizard. But so we need like
• 1:52:15
  I don't know, like, but I gotta figure out if I'm gonna put
• 1:52:16
  in Prim Reaper or Lauren, and maybe I'll do both if I can,
• 1:52:20
  and I'll give them, you know, different classes to maybe maybe Prim will
• 1:52:25
  be like a druid or something or a necromancer. I don't know, and
• 1:52:29
  uh, figure something out For Lauren, I need a rogue, so that
• 1:52:32
  might work. And so and then what I'll do is I'll I'll play and
• 1:52:36
  some because there's all these like custom made modules so you can you can do
• 1:52:42
  I'll ton of stuff with it, right, because this game has been out
• 1:52:45
  for years, and the and the new one it just came out, so
• 1:52:47
  there isn't a lot of content out out there. But it most importantly,
• 1:52:50
  it doesn't let you build a party as of yet. So that's what I
• 1:52:55
  want to do. I think that would be a lot of fun. Do
• 1:52:57
  you are you okay with being a paladin? Because people are asked if that's
• 1:53:00
  what you're let me. Let me let me. I'll put a pole in
• 1:53:03
  and I will ask. I don't know how many options I can give,
• 1:53:08
  But do you not like paladins? I think that you are the most sort
• 1:53:15
  of you know, morally, I don't know. It just seems appropriate to
• 1:53:21
  me. But I don't know. You could be a ranger too, if
• 1:53:26
  you're like into the nature stuff Paladin. Well, I guess that's because there's
• 1:53:31
  the thing about rangers is they get like a pet, So we can put
• 1:53:34
  a dog like a wolf or something if if the game has it, Yeah,
• 1:53:39
  you could do that, so that that's another option. Let's see.
• 1:53:44
  I don't know, like good, what's the logic behind paladin? Are you
• 1:53:46
  putting in a power? No Paladins? I did put a poll in.
• 1:53:49
  I'll let the people decide. Well, paladins are like the you know,
• 1:53:53
  they're like the very very like morally you know, upright guys, and they
• 1:53:58
  and they protect and they're kind of tanky, you know, and and so
• 1:54:03
  there's that. And then the fighter is basically like a well rounded they know
• 1:54:06
  how to fight, so they get in there and wrestle. The rangers are
• 1:54:13
  you know, they're based on Aragorne from Lord of the Rings, but they
• 1:54:15
  tend to be like guys in the wild. And the rogue is a they're
• 1:54:20
  basically like thieves. They have a lot of skills and stuff like that.
• 1:54:24
  It's based on three point five D and D. I don't know if that
• 1:54:27
  matters, but let me know. You guys think they want shaman king,
• 1:54:30
  says Allison, would be a dark knight. Well there are there are.
• 1:54:36
  I think there is a pal a type of palette, and that's kind of
• 1:54:40
  like on the darker side. So they don't necessarily have to be like goody
• 1:54:43
  two shoes, but that comes down to your choices. So I will figure
• 1:54:47
  this out. We'll do a stream on it, though, so subscribe to
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  Honey Badger Arcade. Let me look here if I have the link in there,
• 1:54:58
  I don't. I don't. I'll have to add it. Okay,
• 1:55:02
  I have a thank you to give, so good did we make it?
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  Yeah, we did, Tom and Nader gives us twenty five dollars which gets
• 1:55:10
  us over So thank you. Oh, thank you. Let me see,
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  let me see if I have something here. Okay, all right, awesome,
• 1:55:26
  till next time, till next month. Thank you, thank you everyone.
• 1:55:30
  Uh. Hopefully this will either go to starting to work on the line
• 1:55:35
  edits, which is the next really expensive form of editing, which is where
• 1:55:40
  they will make sure that I'm not using ridiculous phrasing. That's where they they
• 1:55:45
  brutalize your authorial voice, where you get beaten up in terms of your word
• 1:55:50
  choice and sentence structure and everything else. Right now, I'm I'm waiting on
• 1:55:57
  the results of my developmental edit, which should be coming in soon, and
• 1:56:00
  it might need another pass for the developmental edit, which probably won't be as
• 1:56:03
  expensive as the first one. So once again, thank you all for helping
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  me out. And so I once again, once again, once again,
• 1:56:14
  once again, this will either go to line editing in the future, but
• 1:56:18
  I'll have to probably do more fundraising for that, or it can go for
• 1:56:24
  a second pass and the developmental edit. We'll see, we'll see where,
• 1:56:28
  We'll see where my poor wretched, beaten up manuscript is at the end of
• 1:56:32
  this. So once again, thank you, thank you to everybody helped out.
• 1:56:36
  Let me do a quick run through of who helped out today. Thank
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  you to hyper Chicken, the Great indoors Dominator and d SC. I believe
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  all right, yeah, I think that's everybody. Let's see let me go
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  through here. Oh yeah, DSc, that was that Invessa. Sorry I
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  almost missed you. Thank yous. Okay, nah, okay, and back
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  tip back to you. Brian, all right, I did get another super
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  chow. I just went and check really quick since we went through all the
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  timecodes, and Great Indoors thank you so much. He gave us fifty and
• 1:58:05
  then I assume a hundred or ten fifty and ten, So thank you Great
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  Indoors for that. And he says. Hearing Brian talking about how women will
• 1:58:17
  use any kind of communication device to bitchamon about men makes me think of Emily
• 1:58:21
  Eifler and her inane question at the Oculus Rift event, what is Oculus's approach
• 1:58:28
  to their clear gender gap and how they're not going to be to port that
• 1:58:31
  into VR end quote question includes spream, smug face and background seal clapping.
• 1:58:38
  What what? I yeah? Did we see that? I mean, I
• 1:58:42
  went to a VR conference years ago with Jonathan. Do you remember that Alison
• 1:58:46
  and they and that that happened there just was like what it was, It
• 1:58:49
  wasn't as mainstream as it is now it was still you know, like uh
• 1:58:54
  in that it was starting to sort of creep into the mainstream, but like
• 1:58:58
  it wasn't as mainstream, and there was definitely people going, oh, this
• 1:59:00
  needs to be feminist, you know, we were. There was one where
• 1:59:03
  you have to experience what it's like to be a woman and you don't have
• 1:59:06
  any control or anything, and like men hit on you and shit, oh
• 1:59:11
  god, it was so cringe. Oh but like I said, it's women
• 1:59:15
  in the feminist framework are wretches. They have absolutely no capability of doing anything.
• 1:59:21
  They don't even have the capability of any Honestly, Like, as you
• 1:59:27
  said, snow White was the main character. She was the one that pushed
• 1:59:32
  the entire plot along. She did so she had capability, She had ability,
• 1:59:38
  and she had agency. Women aren't even allowed to have that. And
• 1:59:43
  they they they thumb their nose up at the at the social messaging of something
• 1:59:48
  like snow White. And I'm like, well, you mean that you actually
• 1:59:53
  regard the average woman, as you know, snow White has hands and legs
• 1:59:57
  and thoughts and the ability to make decisions. You regard the average woman is
• 2:00:00
  having no hands, no thoughts, no legs, and no ability to make
• 2:00:04
  decisions for herself unless they're a feminist, Like, what the hell is that?
• 2:00:10
  You're basically like boxing Helena. I don't know if you know that that
• 2:00:15
  movie. It's basically a movie about a guy who surgically removes a woman's arms
• 2:00:18
  and legs. I'm like, wow, that's a metaphor for feminism. Oh
• 2:00:24
  wow, Like no shit, what is a woman in the feminist framework but
• 2:00:28
  a wretch with absolutely no capability to do anything for herself? Yep, a
• 2:00:34
  victim in every single circumstance. It is said, Yeah, what kind of
• 2:00:41
  messaging? Like what what does that messaging do to women? If you're thinking
• 2:00:45
  that the messaging around snow White is somehow harmful, why because she has too
• 2:00:49
  much agency as a feminine creature, as a as a as a person of
• 2:00:55
  femininity. Okay, I'll get off my soapbox, all right, all right,
• 2:01:00
  So yeah, thanks for the thanks for everything. We're going to close
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