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Episode 319- Rick and Elaine Discuss the Book of Job- Episode 21 · The Burros of Berea Podcast

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Welcome back to Rick and Elaine discuss the Bible
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and in particular the book of Job. Yep. Excellent.
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What's going on Elaine Rae Clark? Um, I thought
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you was going to say what's new pussycat? What's
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new pussycat? That was a Broadway thing, wasn't
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it? It's Tom Jones, wasn't it? What's new pussycat?
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Oh, it was Tom Jones. That's right. Mr. Hips
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himself. He was. Exactly. What's new? What's
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new, Pussycat? What's new, Pussycat? Well, what's
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new is, Tonkat, is that at the end of the day,
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it's very dark, dismal, drab, dreary, dull here
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again. It's been pouring with rain all night,
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with about 22 millimetres of rain, and everybody's
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wondering what's going on. Well, we had been
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in a drought for the longest time here and we
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finally got some rain So I'm very thankful for
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that it rained during my daughter's wedding and
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what was really interesting It was that you know,
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I figured that Annabelle my daughter would have
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been a little upset but instead she She just
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powered through and she was more interested in
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marrying her the love of her life than she was
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And the and the and the young man was all about
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holding the umbrella for and opening the door
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and picking up her dress so it wouldn't get in
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the mud puddle. Like I was so impressed with
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these kids. I was like, this is good. This is
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good. You got you two have figured it out. You
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love one another and that's what matters the
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most. That's all that matters, Rick. That's it.
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I mean, all the external paraphernalia and all
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that type of thing. Really, as much as it's lovely
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and it's good to celebrate and to see something
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different, it's really what's going on inside
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the two people. And that's what you're there
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to observe, isn't it? It is. And it's really
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funny because You know, there's a lot of emotions
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going on. Annabelle is not the youngest. She's
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second to the youngest. The youngest, Sarah Beth
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is graduating this month here in about 10 days
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and she graduates and she is going to be an emergency
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medical technician and what we call EMT, a person
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that rides around in an ambulance and goes around.
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Oh, we call them paramedics. Paramedics also.
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Yeah. All right. She's already finished all of
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her classes. She's already passed everything.
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So as soon as she graduated. Yeah, she's going
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in a county, Rutherford County. She's going to
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be down there. I think I can't remember. She
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told me there was it was a toss up, but it hasn't
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been decided yet. She's focusing on graduation
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right now. But Annabelle being, you know, the
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age that she is and and watching her get married,
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there was a how old is she, Rick? She is 20.
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She actually the seat. No, I'm sorry. She'll
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be 20 May 25th. So she got married at 19 and
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my gosh that is quite young, isn't it? You know,
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I got married at 20. I mean around here That's
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you know, you don't want to you want you don't
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want to wait too long because the good ones will
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get away It goes quick around. Yeah. Well, yeah
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Yeah, yeah, I don't know whether I go with that
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completely but I get it But alas, you realize
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as I got older, you know, as I'm older, I'm in
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my, I'm 50 now and I'm watching this unfold before
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my eyes. Oh, you're a young buck, right? I'm
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a young buck. I'm a young buck. So yeah, not
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quite, not quite so young, but I would just,
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it's amazing when you're in events. Like I've
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been to weddings when I was in my twenties and
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in my thirties and forties. It's amazing, Heather,
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you get older when you look at it the way that
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you look at it differently with wisdom and a
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lot of that. um comes with time and effort and
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it it kind of does tie into this study of joe
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because the the job 28 wisdom that we were talking
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about is something that only can be revealed
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from above it only comes from god it's not something
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that you learn or you mine or you work and so
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but it's like you said really is experience you
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know what you experience it's teaching what is
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it teaching you what are you learning Well, and
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that's the other side of it is that, you know,
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I realize that, you know, I have these built
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in worldviews of my very own that I think about
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in life. And so here we are. I'm watching my
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daughter get married and I'm thinking about all
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of the the things she did as a little kid. And
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I remember, you know, she we had a hard time
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teaching her how to tie her shoes. We had a hard
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time teaching her to ride a bike. We had a hard
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time getting her to ride in the car without beating
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her head on the seat and getting angry because
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she didn't like the feeling of a of, you know,
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a car movie. Just all, just all of it, just going
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back and remembering all of the things about
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her and what made her unique. But isn't it funny
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though, really when you're going through something,
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you don't really appreciate the fact that one
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day you'll look back on those times with fondness.
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You know, we put a great deal of stock and all
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they, you know, she's irritated by the seatbelt.
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And then you look back and you just think, wow,
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you know, she was irritated by the seatbelt.
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It was quite amusing really, or she was. hard
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time, but it was, you always seem to, it's like
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God takes away the bad and just leaves the good.
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Yeah, and that's a great way of putting it. Yeah,
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for me, like when you're in the experience of
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your own person, you're not thinking 30 years
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from now, I'm going to look back at this and
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think of it this way. You're not thinking about
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it. You'd give anything to see her for one day
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in the back of that car complaining about seatbelt
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or not being able to ride her bike or doing all
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those things. The things that you thought, I
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can't wait till she gets older and I won't have
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to worry about that. They're the very things
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you think. I wish I could wish I could go back
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with my children. They drove me nuts. Yeah, of
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course. I would give anything to it. to go back.
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Just keep in mind, I have seven. Yeah, you're
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greedy. I had to get them all. But with that
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being said, as I was sitting there thinking about
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it, I looked over at her grandfather and I thought,
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I wonder what's in his mind right now. And I
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wonder what he's thinking about me. And I wonder
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what you know what I mean? Like, yeah, it's just
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this way that it goes. And then I thought, you
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know, when we're talking about the Book of Job,
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A lot of times when we read these things, we,
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this study has been unique because we really
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try to dig in and get the humanity side of it.
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But at the same time, I started thinking, you
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know, like Eliphaz the Timonite had a wife and
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had children most likely, and it doesn't say,
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but most likely he did. That was their society
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in the patriarchy. Job obviously had a wife and
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children. And to think about what Job's mind
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is doing because he lost all of his children.
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And I don't, it's like... And the support of
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his wife. And the support of his wife and he
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lost everything that he had and i'm just trying
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to sit with that i'm like let's really get in
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here and let's really sit with him because We're
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going to get into that today. We're going to
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get into job 29 30 and 31 we're actually going
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to finish if we can if we have to go over a little
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bit we will because You know, we slowed down
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a lot in job's discourses and now I think we
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can wrap it up pretty nicely in these last chapters
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So elaine you're going to be reading a lot today.
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I hope you don't mind. Oh, dear But but we're
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just gonna sit with the words that job leaves
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us Let me go to the comments first from the last
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episode on job 28 We had one comment everybody
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was busy getting ready to go to the conference
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And so the person who said she wasn't gonna be
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able to comment anymore is the one that commented
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Tony driver. Oh bless her Yeah, Tony. She says
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good day. My friends awesome study this week
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It really stood out to be how we can search and
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understand so much yet wisdom isn't something
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we can earn it's revealed Yes. I loved how it
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connects with Proverbs and Ecclesiastes. The
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fear of the Lord is wisdom and tying it to Christ
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in 1 Corinthians 1 .30. Rick, that was a mic
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drop moment. Excellent. Thank you. Yeah, I did
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the mic drop. Really grateful to be part of this
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journey with you all. We're grateful that you're
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here with us as well. And I know that there's
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a lot of people that are still watching this.
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Even if you're not commenting, it's OK. We know
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you're there. We're still thinking of you and
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praying for you. And I appreciate you being here
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with us this whole absolutely. Can I just say
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one thing? The reason I don't come. I mean, unless
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Rick reads them out to me, I don't I don't know
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what you're saying. And I can't answer you back
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if I did know what you were saying. Well, if
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I did know what you were saying, I'll be able
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to comment. I have not got my my Apple ID. I
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do not know how to access comments. I don't know
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how to do that. Yeah. And so whenever Elaine
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Apple thing. So all I want to say to you out
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there is not as if Rick's doing all the answering
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and, and I'm just not giving a diddly squat.
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It's literally I cannot, I don't know. I mean,
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that's why I put my email out there. I think
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you've read it out my email address. Maybe you
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could put it on the comments section because
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it would be lovely to hear what people are saying
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because I can't hear it unless you tell me Rick.
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I'll try to remember that. Let me write a note
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real quick to put that guys. I'll put Elaine.
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I did get one from Laurie and I did. I did email
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Laurie back, but I don't know whether Laurie
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got my email because it didn't say anything about
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Laurie. It just says something about. Dairy Fair
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farm or something or dairy. I don't know what
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it was but unless some sort of like, you know
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random person in America has got an email that
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they're probably thinking who's this from but
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I thought I was sending it back to Laurie and
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Laurie if you did receive it great But if you
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haven't I did send one just so thank you for
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the for the email Yeah, so right now guys if
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you I wrote a note, hopefully I'll remember If
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I don't put in the comments like, yo, bro, you
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forgot the you forgot the email. But if you guys
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want to contact Elaine directly, you can when
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Elaine is here. Because I'm on my own here. That
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would be nice. I mean, you you've got you're
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very greedy over there. It goes from feast to
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family. You have the feast and I have the famine.
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I'm sorry. Please toss me a little piece of bread
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and you'll get back. Get back. I've got a banquet.
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Listen, I have I have seven kids and all my friends
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over here. You're going to have to wait a minute.
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How mean, how mean is that? Goodness gracious.
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Yeah, it is like, oh my gosh, you know, I wish
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I was there to be able to share the whole thing.
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But, you know, it is what it is. And I just want
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to just put out there that I love you all. It's
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not that I don't want to comment. It's just I
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don't know the comments and B can't comment because
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I don't know my Apple ID number to get in. When
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you're here in america i'm gonna help you figure
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that out i will help you get we will we'll get
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it figured out so okay and that's gonna be in
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august guys elaine's coming to america in august
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she's staying here for a few weeks and uh she's
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gonna go to the arkansas scotology conference
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so if you guys go there you get to meet her there
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um also we're gonna run down and uh visit reformed
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uh rogers park reform church with alan thompson
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and dina and tony and camera driver and all that
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exactly i'm excited for everything I mean, Lori
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stone. I think she wants to meet you while you're
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here too. And we're going to try to make this
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happen. I, I, you know, this is the thing. It's
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connecting with your brothers and sisters, you
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know, and that's, that to me is amazing. When
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I went over there last year, I had such an amazing
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time with people and I, you know, I just want
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to replicate it again. I want it to be the same
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Lord. So please let it happen. Yes, please Lord.
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All right, let's get into this. So like I said,
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we're going to get into job 29, 30 and 31. And
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here's what's important. In my top my second
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talk at brian was on the widows mites and what
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i drew out from that so a lot of you guys that
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are here are actually that are on patreon were
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actually at the conference so you'll probably
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remember that i was bringing out that god was
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the voice of the fatherless the widow and the
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sojourner he was the defender he was he called
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himself the father of the fatherless right the
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defender of widows. What you're going to find
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out, this is deeply embedded in God's law. It's
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in the Psalms. It's in the prophets. The way
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that widows and orphans and sojourners are treated
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is incredibly important to God. It is what I
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call the litmus test for righteousness in a society.
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And if you fail in that, then you're going away
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from God. If you do what God says in regard to
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these people, these helpless ones, you're reflecting
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the heart of God. This is gonna come up in these
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chapters. Job's gonna talk about this. He's already
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been accused of abusing them We know that that's
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not true, but Job's gonna talk about it. Were
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you about to say something Elaine? Yeah, I was
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I was just thinking, you know the fatherless
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boy and The the widow I was thinking also that
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my mind went to the spiritual aspect of it the
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fatherless boy And I was thinking about when
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he divorced Israel and sent them away. He gave
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a bill of divorce and sent them away. And it
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was like a child being fatherless, didn't have
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a father anymore. You know, they were rejected,
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they were sent away. And that was a ten tribe.
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And then I thought about the widow when sort
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of like Christ died on the cross, the old covenant
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arrangement as God being their husband had finished.
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And I just thought that in that sense, he's saying,
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you know, remember when, when Paul meets them
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at Jerusalem, they said, remember the widow and
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the fatherless boy. And he said, yes, that's
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exactly what I was going to do. And I'm wondering
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whether that was some sort of code for remember
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Israel. I think it's both. And I'll say this
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because in Isaiah, Isaiah makes it pretty point
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blank. He says God tells Israel. if you reject
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the widow and the orphan and the sojourner i
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will kill he says i will kill you with the sword
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and you Will it will have children that are fatherless
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and you will have wives who are widows so he's
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he's warning israel so i agree like yes later
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on when you think about a code for israel definitely
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i think that's in it but also in it by the way
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i was pointing out that this still stands in
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our society today we still need to care for the
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widows and the orphans in the sojourner like
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this is never never changes that that's the same
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again i'm sort of looking at the spiritual aspect
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here we got joe sort of reaching into the spirit
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here. And I'm just thinking again, is this the
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hidden sort of message that Job is sort of like
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living through, is expounding, you know, with
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there's a lot of references that we could sort
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of say that are linked to Christ. You know, so
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I'm just wondering again, whether, you know,
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he talks about the widow and the fathers and
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just the fact that, yeah, it's remember, remember
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who they are, because we know that in 29, he's
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remembering. That's right. He's reminiscing.
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He's going back over it. So again there's many
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sort of point is the fact that yes even paul
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said i wish that i could become a curse for my
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own people in the flesh. You know so again i'm
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just thinking that we know that again the god
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brought back you know join the sticks you took
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the tribe of juda and is any made the one stick
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again. I'm just you know you took me in jeremiah
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and then you go to how is that you know. I won't
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abandon you forever. And, you know, I will speak
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to you, you know, with with with consoling words
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and words of, you know, of love. It just yeah,
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it just it just as much as these people were
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rejected, we as a nation, we know that individually
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they were loved. Yes, they were. And yeah, I'm
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sure that. you've picked up on the deep spiritual
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meaning of it too. Yes, absolutely. I think it's
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there a hundred percent. Would you mind reading
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Job 29? So what she just said is that Job's going
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to go to remember it. So keep in mind 28, he's
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talked about wisdom, how it can't be mined. It
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can't be bought. It can only be revealed. And
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so that comes from God. That's right. And suffering
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and the fear of the Lord is wisdom. That's, that's
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the important thing. So now let's listen to what
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Job says in Job chapter 29. Right. He says, I
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wish I were as in the old days, back in the times
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when God watched over me, when His lamp shone
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over my head, and I walked through the day by
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its light, as I was when I was young, and God's
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counsel graced my tent. Then Shaddai was still
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with me, my children were around me, my steps
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were awash in bussar, and the rocks poured out
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for me streams of olive oil. I would go out into
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the city gate and set up my seat in the open
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space. When young men saw me, they would hide
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themselves while the aged arose and stood. Leaders
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refrained from speaking. They would lay their
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hands on their mouths. The voices of nobles were
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silenced. Their tongues stuck to their palate.
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Any eat, any ear that heard me blessed me. An
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eye that saw me gave witness to me. For I delivered
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the poor when they cried for assistance, the
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orphan too, who had no one to help him. Those
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who had been about to die would bless me, and
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I made widows sing in their hearts for joy. I
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clothed myself with righteousness, and it clothed
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itself with me. My justice was like a robe and
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a crown. I was eyes for the blind, and I was
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feet for the lame. I was a father to the needy,
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and I investigated the problems of those I didn't
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know. I broke the jaw of the unrighteous and
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snatched the prey from his teeth. I said, I will
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die with my nest and I will live as long as a
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phoenix. My root was spread till it reaches water
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and dew will stay all night on my branch. My
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glory will always be fresh. My bow always knew
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in my hand. People would listen to me. They waited
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and were silent when I gave advice. After I spoke,
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they didn't talk back. My words were like drops
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of dew on them. They waited for me as for rain,
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as for the spring rain, with their mouths open
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wide. When I joked with them, they couldn't believe
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it. And they never darkened the light on my face.
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I chose their way for them, sitting as chief.
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I lived like a king in the army, like one who
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comforts mourners." That's amazing. I mean, to
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be able to write all that, that is so poetic
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in such depth, isn't it? It is, and he's really
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driving home. First of all, we know the Bible
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makes it clear Job was a righteous man. The Bible
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says it unequivocally. It does not ever say otherwise.
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The New Testament mentions him. Other is he's
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mentioned elsewhere in the scriptures about being
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righteous okay so when he's describing like he
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took care of the widow and the orphan and the
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stranger and that whenever he spoke people were
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listening to him that whenever he joked they
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were surprised at it you know that he that the
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widows would sing for joy because of him and
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that he lived like a cheap i think what he's
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trying to tell you is that in his because he
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was the greatest man in all the east. That what
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he thought was that because of his actions and
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because of his his life like he the you know,
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um like the lamp of the eye you know how like
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everything that's like it's light like he has
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light coming in it's not darkness he has this
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inward man understanding of god and he thought
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that his relationship with god was rock solid
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and that as he followed what you would consider
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the laws of god which is exactly what he's doing
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that he would be blessed and not cursed but that's
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not the situation he's in and that's what that's
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where the tension lies that's why he's looking
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back saying i was respected I had everything,
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all of the people that were suffering, I took
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care of it. And by the way, when the Wiccawoods
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come in, I would break the jaw and take the prey
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out of the mouth. Like I was the defender of
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the weak. I'm all those things that God has expected
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of me. That's what I believe I am. But yet here
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I am. And now when I used to speak and people
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would be quiet and just listen and not respond,
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I'm sitting in the midst of these men where I
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spoke and all they're doing is responding and
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mocking me. So that's what Job 29 is about. It's
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the remembrance of who the man was. And I think
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that. Go ahead. No, I was just thinking about
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all that you said there. So much of it is external,
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isn't it? We're gonna get into the thoughts of
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Job's thoughts, how he's beginning to be shaped.
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He's remembering what he was, but they're all
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external things. I sat at the gate, people listened
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to me. I did this for them. I did that for them.
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This is the joy that they got when I did this.
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And it's all sort of, it's what I did for them,
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what I did for them. And now he's in the situation,
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like you say, where he's having to look now.
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not of what he did for them, as to why he's in
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this situation after doing all those things for
20:55
him, for them. It's a dichotomy, isn't it? He
20:59
can't grasp it. You know, he's given us all these
21:02
things that he's remembered back in the times
21:04
when God watched over me, when he watched over
21:06
me. He saw what I was doing. I did this and I
21:09
did that and I did the other. It was all I, I,
21:11
I, I, I. Yeah, it's almost like saying, like
21:14
when God... We're not saying he's wrong. We don't
21:16
say he's wrong because we're supposed to be these
21:18
things. However, it's like when he said when
21:21
God guided me in his light, right? Like when
21:23
God guided me. So he right now he's sitting in
21:26
what he feels is chaos and darkness. And he's
21:28
like, I remember whenever I was doing all of
21:30
the things that I believe God wanted me to do
21:32
and that God was showing me these things and
21:34
working with me. But now what? So. you know,
21:38
trying to break down every single verse here
21:40
is not necessary. If you guys want to go back
21:41
and do it, go back and look at everything that
21:43
Job did. I can tell you that he's following the
21:46
law of God is what he's doing. And he's following
21:49
it to a T. Whatever that law was at that particular
21:50
time. There was no law other than the oral. Whatever
21:53
it was, because we know that the law had not
21:57
been released yet. So this is something the oral
22:01
that was transmitted from person to person and
22:03
the priesthood most likely I don't know if it's
22:05
after the order of Melchizedek I don't know guys.
22:07
It doesn't really say but we do know that he
22:09
operated as a priest He was over his family was
22:11
the greatest in the East and that he was a righteous
22:14
man. This is what we know So there's something
22:16
more this wisdom that's being revealed from heaven
22:19
is something that he's grasping for and so he's
22:22
looking back at his life And he's seeing how
22:25
he was an honorable, righteous man. Now, if you
22:27
would, Elaine, let's go into chapter 30 and now
22:30
watch where he says, this is where I'm at right
22:33
now. Yeah. He says, but now those younger than
22:38
I hold me in derision. Men whose fathers I wouldn't
22:42
even put in with the dogs that guard my sheep.
22:45
What used to me was the strength in their hands.
22:48
All their vigor had left them worn out by want
22:51
and hunger. They gnaw the dry ground in the gloom
22:55
of waste and desolation. They pluck saltwort
22:58
and bitter leaves. These, with broom -tree roots,
23:02
are their food. They are driven away from society,
23:06
with men shouting after them as after a thief,
23:10
to live in gullies and vadis, in holes in the
23:12
ground and caves in the rocks. Among the bushes
23:15
they howl like beasts and huddle among the nettles,
23:18
irresponsible nobodies driven from the land.
23:21
Now I have become their song. Yes, I am a byword
23:25
with them. They loathe me and stand aloof from
23:29
me. They don't hesitate to spit in my face. For
23:33
God has loosened my bowstring and humbled me.
23:36
They throw off restraint in my presence. At my
23:40
right, the street urchins attack, pushing me
23:43
from place to place, besieging me with their
23:46
ways of destruction, breaking up my path, furthering
23:50
my calamity. Even those who have no one to help
23:53
them, they move in as though a wide gap. Amid
23:57
the ruin, they roll in on waves. Terrors tumble
24:00
over me, chasing my honor away like the wind
24:03
of my hope of salvation, and it passes like a
24:06
cloud. So now my life is ebbing away. Days of
24:10
grief has seized me. At night, pain pierces me
24:14
to the bone so that I never rest. My clothes
24:17
are disfigured by the force of my disease. They
24:20
choke me like the collar of my coat. God has
24:23
thrown me into the mud. I have become like dust
24:26
and ashes. I call out to you, God, but you don't
24:29
answer me. I stand up to plead, but you just
24:33
look at me. You have turned cruelly against me.
24:36
With your powerful hand, you keep persecuting
24:39
me. You snatch me up on the wind and make me
24:42
ride it. You toss me about in the tempest, for
24:44
I know that you will bring me to death, the house
24:47
assigned to everyone living. Surely God wouldn't
24:50
strike at a ruin. If I'm once calamity, one cried
24:54
out to him for help. Didn't I weep for those
24:56
who were in trouble? Didn't I grieve for the
24:59
needy? Yet when I hoped for good, what came was
25:02
bad. When I expected light, what came was darkness.
25:08
My insides are in turmoil. They can't find rest.
25:12
Days of misery confront me. I go about in sunless
25:15
gloom. I rise in the assembly and cry for help.
25:19
I become a brother to jackals and a companion
25:23
of ostriches. My skin is black and falling off
25:26
of me and my bones are burning with heat. So
25:30
my lyre is turned for mourning, my pipe to the
25:34
voice of those who weep. Man, can you hear it?
25:40
So, so before he what he's doing in 29, remember
25:43
wisdom comes from God. He's trying to under,
25:45
he's saying, he knows it's being revealed from
25:46
heaven. Where is it? And then when you get to
25:48
29, he's now he's looking back at his life and
25:51
he's remembering all of the things that were
25:52
good, all of the things that he thought that
25:54
he was doing that was correct and how blessed
25:57
that he was. And then in this one, now he starts
25:59
saying some really hard things like not only
26:03
is he destroyed physically, we know this, not
26:06
only is he destroyed emotionally, we know this,
26:08
but physiologically, theologically worldview.
26:12
All of this in the ancient world is catastrophe.
26:16
When you see a man go through this in the ancient
26:18
world, it is evidence that God is against him.
26:20
That's what the worldviews are. And we have that
26:23
even in our modern time. We've talked about that
26:25
numerous times in this study. So when Jobe describes
26:29
these things that are deeply physical, for example,
26:31
he says, my bones are burning. I have sleeplessness.
26:34
I'm in constant pain. I have physical disfigurement.
26:37
I'm in exhaustion. I have a loss of identity.
26:40
Even my garment. disfigures me like whatever's
26:44
happening with these boils or whatever's going
26:45
on like his garment is different like he looks
26:47
like a heap a mess in the dust here have you
26:51
ever really sat in that for a little while and
26:54
thought about what that must really be like because
26:57
i've never i mean i've been going through a lot
27:01
i have been but nothing anywhere close to this
27:05
and to think that he's still not cursing god
27:09
what he's saying is It should be painfully obvious.
27:13
If anybody knows who I am, if I could pick you
27:15
up and put you in my head and know what I really
27:17
am. The only thing that I can say about myself
27:19
is that the things that I hope for didn't happen.
27:22
And what I think about is that whenever Job said
27:26
he offered sacrifices for his children and perhaps
27:28
the thoughts of their heart were against God,
27:31
like that was a hope. He was sure that the early
27:33
chapters were showing us this was a hope of his
27:35
is that he wanted to It's on behalf of his children
27:38
because he loved his children. He wanted to care
27:40
for his children That's not what happened. All
27:42
of his children were taken so his hope Didn't
27:44
turn out the way that he thought it would so
27:46
the idea of blessing and hope and all of this
27:48
stuff Even his own worldview was skewed and now
27:51
he's seeing that but he's also looking at the
27:54
total calamity of his life and he's like wait
27:56
like Guys, even even the lowest of the low spit
27:59
at me these people that I wouldn't even let in
28:02
my territories are now they're over They look
28:05
at me. They even sing songs and joke about me.
28:08
This is you know, this is absolute devastation
28:12
in the ancient world. He's ruined guys. He's
28:15
ruined but but he's Because we know all this
28:20
we have chapter 1 and chapter 2 of This book
28:24
and because you hear him going through this.
28:26
I don't know why well, maybe I do know why Psalm
28:29
22 really hit me. I was like, oh, this is the
28:34
suffering servant. Isaiah 53, Psalm 22. We brought
28:37
this up many times. Remember whenever he says
28:40
like, like, God's not answering me. Remember
28:44
how Jesus said, my God, my God, why have you
28:49
forsaken me? And he's quoting the Psalm while
28:52
he's on the cross. Well, Elaine, the thing that
28:55
I'm thinking about is that This is this is like
28:59
a type of the suffering servant and that the
29:03
suffering servant that would come on behalf of
29:06
God when he comes He's gonna be rejected to the
29:10
uttermost Because he has to go to the depths
29:13
that Adam put us in he's got to get below it
29:17
in order to redeem it so this is a type of Someone
29:21
like Jesus guys when you look at Jesus's life
29:24
Yeah, he was stirring up the hornet's nest but
29:27
he was healing and he was helping the lame and
29:31
he remember the widow who had nothing left and
29:34
she had no more sons and then he raises the widow's
29:36
son to protect him like Jesus anytime he's present
29:40
death does not occur he resurrects it or stops
29:44
it so Jesus is Jesus is that suffering servant
29:48
when you get to John and the high priestly prayer
29:51
that he doesn't get so many. You see him later
29:53
on the cross when he's saying father forgive
29:55
them and he's his beard has been ripped he's
29:58
been mocked spit upon now his hands and feet
30:01
have been pierced. He's my god why have you forsaken
30:05
me and then to look even at the thief beside
30:08
him remember me when you come to your kingdom
30:10
and today you will be with me in paradise like
30:12
this grace in the lowest of the lows. all of
30:15
the people that he's been training for the last
30:17
three and a half years have scattered except
30:19
for his mother and Mary Magdalene and a couple
30:22
of other disciples, whoever the disciple of Jesus
30:24
love was, John Lazarus, whatever, John, whatever,
30:27
I don't care. Whoever that was, it was with him.
30:28
Everybody else was gone. I think you got to remember
30:31
that though, Rick, again, this is like you say,
30:33
you got to remember that, you know, that it was
30:36
Passover and they were required by law to go
30:39
to the temple and offer up a lamb. So you could
30:42
turn around and say, well, actually, they were
30:45
following the law, which is why they weren't
30:47
at the cross. Who is they? Well, all the other
30:50
disciples, the apostles. No, I disagree. They're
30:53
not there because they're afraid. They're running
30:56
from Him. They know who Jesus is. They're not
30:58
following the law. They're scared. They're running
31:00
from the people who are doing the law to them.
31:02
That's what I think. But you think otherwise?
31:05
Well, no. Again, all I know is that they were
31:07
required by law. It's a known thing that they
31:11
were required by law. So therefore, If they had
31:14
seen Christ going to the cross, which they did,
31:18
they believe that was it. You know, like they're
31:20
on the road to Emmaus. Well, are you the only
31:22
one Jerusalem has gone on these last few days?
31:25
You don't get it. They're downcast. They think,
31:27
well, this one that we thought was going to do
31:29
it has done it. So I think a lot of it would
31:31
have been thinking, well, look, you know, do
31:33
we go to the cross? And stay there or do we because
31:39
we think he's dying you know i didn't really
31:41
understand what was going on at that particular
31:43
moment or should we go to Jerusalem like god
31:46
has always told us to do every year was supposed
31:48
to turn up and do that and take our lands are
31:50
we going to prepare for the passover. You know
31:54
so i already had they already had jesus had already
31:59
prepared the passover. They'd already went through
32:01
this with him and so what do you say when you
32:04
say the parcel what do you mean that they are
32:06
the possible meal. Whenever they remember they
32:09
prepared the Passover meal and they ate it prior
32:11
they didn't they didn't they didn't eat the past
32:13
they didn't actually eat the Passover lamb the
32:15
night that they had a meal with the Lord. No
32:17
no no but that's because he had just brought
32:19
in the new covenant they were understanding that
32:21
he was bringing in the new covenant. They didn't
32:24
know that he was going to be dead less than 12
32:26
hours later, you know, or on the cross 12 hours
32:28
later. They didn't know that, but they knew.
32:31
So whenever he was arrested, it says that they
32:33
fled because they were afraid. Peter and John
32:36
or Peter and the last of the disciples whom Jesus
32:38
loved went in and stayed close nearby during
32:41
his trials. And then eventually Peter would leave
32:44
and weep bitterly because these little girls
32:47
were noticing that he was the disciple. So to
32:48
me, it's like. I don't even know if they're even
32:52
remembering their Jewishness as much as they
32:54
are just running for their lives at this point
32:56
and Realizing that maybe they had a hope that
32:59
was you know extinguished but regardless Jesus
33:03
when I say that Jesus is a type of job. All I'm
33:06
saying is that Showing us this extreme suffering
33:10
where he feels like nobody's answering and Jesus
33:13
by saying my god my god Why are you forsaking
33:16
me? Let's remember. This is the Holy Son of God
33:18
Incarnate in flesh dying on a cross saying these
33:22
words out loud some people say well Yeah, he
33:24
was just you know quoting a psalm guys. I don't
33:27
care if he's just quoting a psalm He's quoting
33:30
it look at the context of the psalm and understand
33:32
It's him. He's the suffering servant that's actually
33:36
going through it. So all of those things that
33:38
he thought and felt as a human was God. Why have
33:44
you forgotten? Why have you forsaken me? Why
33:46
have you left me and abandoned me? But I grasp
33:48
all of that, Rick. I'm not saying that that's
33:50
not true at all. Everything that you're saying
33:52
there is is 100 percent. I'm not saying that's
33:56
all. That is why I haven't interjected, because
33:58
I can't see a fault. But. you know when you said
34:01
about they weren't at the cross I just had to
34:03
interject there to say well you know they didn't
34:06
know what was really going on yes he had already
34:09
denied him maybe he just thought well I thought
34:12
he was but I don't quite I don't think that they
34:14
really understood anything yes their fear might
34:16
have prepped in maybe they went down to the to
34:20
the Passover with their lambs simply because
34:23
they wanted to be seen to be being faithful sort
34:27
of loyal servants of God and the law Again, but
34:31
I but but you and I both know You and I both
34:35
know and I'm not just trying to be against you
34:37
I'm just saying like many times when I try to
34:39
speculate in Genesis that if it's not there,
34:42
it's not there I can't I can't speculate that
34:44
all I can tell you is that they were running
34:46
away. That's what the Bible says I don't know
34:49
maybe they did maybe some of them did go and
34:50
try to go with the Passover I don't know but
34:52
I definitely know that they weren't at the cross
34:54
with Jesus. He was abandoned all I know is that
34:58
that that was a law that three times all males
35:02
had to, the other four, no, but all had to turn
35:07
up on three particular Passover's, three particular
35:12
feasts. One was the Passover, one was Pentecost,
35:14
and one was Tabernacles. So again, and these
35:17
play a huge part in the redemption story, the
35:20
Passover, the pouring out the spirit of Pentecost,
35:22
which they were all supposed to go to, which
35:25
I think again is spiritual, and Tabernacles.
35:27
which is the last feast before all of them come
35:30
to a close. So, you know, for me to tie in spiritually,
35:34
that's where the root I would go down. I know
35:37
it doesn't say specifically, but I do know the
35:39
law required of them to turn up their irrespective.
35:43
If they missed the Passover, God was gracious
35:45
and said, well, if you miss it through like an
35:47
illness or whatever, that he said you could do
35:49
exactly the same day a month later. So that was
35:53
what he said. So, for me i was only bringing
35:55
that up because i was trying to defend them sometimes
35:58
you know or they just scattered they didn't bother
35:59
about him and blah blah blah but i'd i'd like
36:02
to think that you know in their confusion of
36:05
him dying on the cross and not really understand
36:07
the same as joe he doesn't understand why he's
36:09
what's happening both the comforters don't understand
36:11
what's happening they don't get it you know so
36:14
i'm just thinking that maybe they didn't get
36:16
it and they just they they returned to that which
36:19
they knew which was I need to be at the Passover
36:22
and offer up the Passover lamb and remember the
36:25
Exodus from Egypt, which is what I think. And
36:29
they did observe the Sabbath, obviously. They
36:31
did, because the Sabbath day, you don't hear
36:34
the disciples doing anything until Resurrection
36:36
Day. The only people that are working behind
36:39
the scenes are people like Nicodemus or, you
36:42
know, Joseph of Arimathea that's going to Pilate,
36:44
trying to get his body off. Well, they had to
36:46
get it off the cross simply because you do not
36:49
have a body on the Sabbath. That's right. That's
36:52
right. Exactly. It wasn't the Saturday Sabbath
36:54
either. Right. It was a high Sabbath. That's
36:57
exactly correct. So he was probably resurrected
37:00
on a Saturday night at six o 'clock just after
37:03
that. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's for sure.
37:07
All right. So I want to wrap up Job 30 by saying
37:10
it kind of like this. Whenever he says, I cry
37:13
to you for help and you do not answer me. I stand
37:15
and you only look at me. This is really interesting
37:18
because when I was talking about Christ on the
37:20
cross It's kind of the same thing if you put
37:21
yourself on the cross with Christ and you think
37:24
about the situation that you're in You ask him
37:26
the night before to take this cup from him. Now,
37:28
you know that he's not taking the cup away So
37:30
that means that you're gonna go the full The
37:33
full direction I almost said full Monty be that's
37:35
what I meant Look the the total you're going
37:37
to the total depth that he's taking it's degree
37:40
the nth degree Thank you. And that's what Job
37:42
is doing as well. That's what he's saying. You
37:45
don't and it's like It's in modern English. It's
37:48
like I keep talking to you and all I get back
37:51
is silence. And that's really pretty much what's
37:54
happening. All he's hearing is the accuser talking
37:56
to him constantly. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Again,
37:59
you know, we sort of like we're setting off at
38:01
29 to 30. And what I see in that is is what he
38:06
did, what what he achieved. It's almost as if
38:09
he brought stability, as if he brought sort of
38:12
peace, as if he brought calm, as if he brought
38:15
understandings, have you brought sort of like
38:17
some sort of clarity to people that wanted answers,
38:21
but then because of the situation he's in, now
38:24
he's saying, basically, a bunch of idiots are
38:27
in charge, and it's all gone to pop. Mm hmm.
38:30
Sure. Yeah. You know, and yet here I am in his
38:34
condition after remembering and reminiscing in
38:37
29 about what I did. And yet you've you've left
38:40
a bunch of like people that just you know young
38:44
men that are doing this and older people are
38:46
doing that people spitting in my face and blah
38:47
blah blah look at the state of me and and yet
38:50
it's going to wreck and ruin and why why when
38:55
i look back and see the peace and the calm and
38:58
the tranquility that i brought to these people
39:02
because of loving god and yet now you've taken
39:05
that and you you've reduced it to rubble because
39:10
everyone around him Was like wild plants again.
39:15
They were just growing off in all different directions.
39:17
It was like again What do you say that it says?
39:20
Among the bushes they howl like beasts. Yeah,
39:23
I'll be well, what do we know about wild beasts?
39:26
What are they represent people that have gotten
39:28
no discern of the law or understanding of God
39:31
and he says and they huddle amongst the nettles
39:34
when this was a prickly horrible things You don't
39:36
even want to dare huddling within and yet they
39:39
are And this is what he's saying, that, you know,
39:42
everything that they're out there teaching, bringing
39:44
about what there's now expounding is bringing
39:47
rack and ruin. And yet I'm sitting here in rack
39:50
and ruin and brought all the other things that
39:52
I was remembering. It doesn't make sense. Right,
39:57
right. This is what I'm, this is what I'm gleaning
39:59
from the whole thing. When I contrast 29 to 30,
40:04
this is what I would, I wouldn't necessarily
40:06
be thinking about the pain I was in per se. I'd
40:10
be thinking about, hang on a minute, on one hand,
40:13
that was what it was like. And on the other hand,
40:16
now these young bucks and young people and all
40:18
these others that really don't listen to any
40:20
council anymore because of getting it from idiots.
40:22
This is the state of the play. And this man that
40:30
you used to bring all this about has now got
40:33
this situation to deal with. And he's just perplexed.
40:38
I mean, he's just absolutely, you know, this
40:41
is why he's saying, why? I know. And that's,
40:44
I think that's the secret. If there is one to
40:48
this book is that the only way that you're going
40:53
to get to the wisdom is through 28. It's revelation.
40:59
The only way you're going to get to it is by
41:03
going through, understanding 29. saying 30, which
41:09
is what Jesus look, Job and Jesus are almost
41:12
identical right now in this regard. Why have
41:16
you forsaken me? I feel like you've turned cruel.
41:19
The bulls of Bashan are around me. They're, they're
41:22
tearing me lots for my cloak. Yes. That like,
41:27
I feel abandoned. I feel like you're being silent.
41:30
These are my human feelings. Yet I know that
41:33
you're there. Why are you being silent? Why?
41:38
Asking that question sometimes bothers people,
41:41
but this is exactly what Job is asking. Exactly,
41:45
but again, like Jesus, he knows really what's
41:48
going on. I mean, the difference with Christ
41:51
is he knows, even though he's in extreme pain
41:53
and he's going through what he, like I've said
41:55
before, that Christ, when he was on the cross,
41:58
he preached to those that were at the foot of
42:01
the cross because he said, my God, my God, why
42:04
have you forsaken me? Now that takes you back
42:06
to Psalm 22, the opening verses of Psalm 22.
42:10
And all the things that he had, he couldn't maneuver
42:15
all these things. It talks about him being given
42:18
something to drink. It talks about them cast
42:20
in lots. So even on the cross, he is witnessing
42:23
to the fact that I'm the Messiah. And because
42:26
they didn't have a Bible like us, you know, we
42:28
got a Bible we could carry it about with us,
42:30
we open it up to chapters and verses, but they
42:32
knew it off by heart. By the fact of him saying,
42:34
my God, my God, why have you deserted me? Bang,
42:37
Psalm 22. Oh my gosh, what's happened? They've
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given you a drink. They've cast lots over his
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clothes. You know, is he really this one? Again,
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this is the whole thing. Christ is preaching
42:47
from the cross, which makes it so amazing for
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me that he understands what's going on even in
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the moment of his extreme pain and agony. He's
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thinking of mankind, those standing at the foot
43:00
of the cross that would have understood the scriptures
43:02
and said, listen, boys, I'm telling you, go back
43:05
to Psalm 22, look at what's happened here. And
43:07
you're going to see, I had no control over this.
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I am the Messiah. Right and just just like Job
43:13
who's in his darkness knows that God still sees
43:16
him He just feels like he's being silent the
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Psalm 22 suffering says yet God did not turn
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his face for me So there there's this understanding
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that where humans can't reach When the righteous
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suffering servant goes to the lowest of the low
43:28
and no other human can reach down. God is there
43:31
So even this is what's the most amazing part
43:35
about this is that the accuser is being used
43:38
by God to bring about What's coming in jobs life
43:42
and what's coming after god is doing things on
43:45
so many different levels that we can't even proceed
43:48
it humans can't proceed it but a man who goes
43:51
through it is gonna understand this. This is
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how God works. And that's why I believe this
43:57
is how you become a high priest. This is what's
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going on. How you have that direct communication
44:02
with God and are able to mediate His covenant
44:05
with other people because you have that understanding.
44:08
This is how Job got there. Job's remembering
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what he was, but that understanding of God, he
44:13
did not possess. He has to go through and understand
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the 30 because now he's like, no, this is where
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I'm at. So where's wisdom? That's what I was.
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This is where I'm at So now let's get into the
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final things that he says let's go into chapter
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31 and see where he closes because next week
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we're gonna get into a lie who and That is one
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of the biggest enigmas to me We're really gonna
44:36
dig in deep because I sometimes I don't quite
44:40
understand what's going on there It doesn't make
44:42
sense, but I've started to draw some pretty cool
44:45
stuff. So if you would Elaine chapter 31 Course
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is a long old chapter. Guys, get ready. I get
44:51
it wrong. That's a lot. It's a lot. I know we've
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read a lot today, but this is how we're going
44:55
to close out Job's discourse. I made a covenant
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with my eyes not to let them lust after any girl.
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What share does God give from above? What is
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the heritage from should I on high? Is it calamity
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to the unrighteousness disaster to those who
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do evil? Doesn't he see my ways and count all
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my steps? If I have gone along with falsehood,
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if my feet have hurried to deceit, then let me
45:23
be weighed in an honest scale so that God will
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know my integrity. If my steps have wandered
45:30
from the way, if my heart has followed my eyes,
45:33
if the least dirt has stuck to my hands, then
45:37
let me sow and someone else eat. Let what grows
45:40
from my fields be uprooted. If my heart has been
45:44
enticed toward a woman, and I have lain in wait
45:46
at my neighbor's door, then let my wife grind
45:49
for another man and let others kneel on her,
45:53
for that would be a heinous act, a criminal offense,
45:56
a fire that would burn in the depths of a badden,
45:59
uprooting all I produce. If I ever rejected my
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slave or slave girl's cause when they brought
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legal action against me, then what would I do
46:10
if God stood up? Were he to intervene What answer
46:16
could I give? Didn't he who made me in the womb
46:19
make them too? Didn't the same one shape us both
46:22
from our birth? If I held back anything needed
46:26
by the poor or made a widow's eye grow dim with
46:29
tears or ate my portion of food by myself without
46:33
letting the orphan eat any of it. No, from my
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youth he grew up with me as if with a father
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and I have been her guide from my mother's womb.
46:43
Or if I saw a traveller needing clothing, someone
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in need who had no covering, who didn't bless
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me from his heart from being warmed with the
46:51
fleece from my sheep. Or if I lifted up my hand
46:54
against an orphan, knowing that no one would
46:57
dare charge me in court, then let my arm fall
47:00
from its socket, and let my forearm be broken
47:02
at the elbow. For calamity from God has always
47:06
terrified me, because His Majesty, I could never
47:09
do a thing like that. If I made gold my hope,
47:13
If I said to find gold, you are my security.
47:16
If I took joy in my great wealth, in my having
47:19
acquired much, or if, on seeing the shining sun
47:23
or the full moon as it moved through the sky,
47:25
my heart was secretly seduced so that I would
47:28
wave them a kiss with my hand, then this too
47:31
would be a criminal offence, for I would have
47:34
been lying to God on high. Did I rejoice at the
47:37
destruction of him who hated me? Was I filled
47:40
with glee when disaster overtook him? No, I did
47:44
not allow my mouth to sin by asking for his life
47:46
with a curse. Was there anyone in my tent who
47:49
didn't say, no one can find a single person whom
47:52
he has not filled with his meek. No stranger
47:54
had to sleep in the street. I kept my house open
47:57
to the traveler. If I concealed my sins as most
48:00
people do by hiding my wrongdoing in my heart
48:03
from fear of general gossip or dread of some
48:06
family's contempt, keeping silent and not going
48:08
outdoors, I wish I had someone who would listen
48:11
to me. Here is my signature. Let Shaddai answer
48:15
me. I wish I had the indictment my adversary
48:19
has written. I would carry it on my shoulder.
48:22
I would bind it on me like a crown. I would declare
48:25
to him, him, every one of my steps. I would approach
48:29
him like a prince. And if my land cried out against
48:32
me, if its furrows wept together, if I ate its
48:36
produce without paying or made its owners despair,
48:39
Then let thistles grow instead of wheat and noxious
48:43
weeds instead of barley. The words of Job are
48:48
finished. Well, we finally made it there. So,
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Elaine, I want to ask you a question. No, it
48:54
was great. No, it was actually great. You really
48:56
captured it emotionally for me. I was listening.
48:59
You really got it. But so you remember how you
49:02
said that in Chapter 30, it was a lot of external.
49:04
Did you notice how he moved to the internal?
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Yes. so now what he's done is he's saying i did
49:09
all of the things now he tells you why when he's
49:13
on the inside of himself he's saying if i had
49:16
done this or if this if that in other words i
49:19
said earlier the light of the body like jesus
49:23
said that you know the the eye is the lamp of
49:25
the body And if darkness comes in, how great
49:28
is that darkness? He's saying that the inner
49:31
man within the inner man, whatever's going on
49:33
inside is what produces. It's not what goes into
49:35
the man is what comes out of the man that defiles
49:38
the man, Jesus would say. So in other words,
49:40
it's, it's the, uh, the leaven. It's what you
49:43
are on the inside, the teaching that you have
49:45
and understand operative outside. Job is saying,
49:49
If I had done this, then show me if I had done
49:52
this, then yes, bring it against me. And what
49:54
I love about what what he says here is he goes.
49:59
Bring the accuser and bring that indictment to
50:01
me and I'll wear it on my shoulder like, OK,
50:04
this is what I know about me. This is what I
50:07
know about what I did. So this wisdom, what I'm
50:10
saying, where is it? How am I going to get to
50:12
this? Because he needs that. Job needs that wisdom
50:16
to reveal itself right now because he he can't
50:19
put this together the ancient world Doesn't have
50:22
the context for it. It doesn't know what to do
50:25
with it. This is why the law is important. This
50:28
is why Moses is important. This is why David
50:32
is important. This is why Solomon is important
50:34
all of the writers and the prophets are important.
50:37
They do not have the context in the ancient world
50:39
to define God and how he works within the world.
50:44
And so Job, who was a priest of his family, has
50:46
been put through this and now he's calling on
50:49
that wisdom. He recognizes that there's an accuser
50:52
that's gone before God. He does not know chapter
50:55
one and chapter two. but he's got it now he knows
50:59
there is something beyond here that's at work
51:02
now let me see that accuser let me have that
51:05
indictment i'll wear it on my shoulder i'm gonna
51:08
sign my name and i'm gonna say the things that
51:11
i've done i am righteous now you might think
51:13
that's false righteousness That's not how jobs
51:16
approach you just learn in 31 the kind of inner
51:18
man that he is. That's not what's really going
51:20
on. Now he's getting ready to get it from Eli
51:23
who and God's going to put him in his place,
51:25
but we have to get there first. So this is where
51:27
job is. And I love how it closes it. Go ahead.
51:31
No, I just thinking about, you know, the whole
51:33
thing, really. Again, he goes down even to the
51:36
personal that, you know, if I have done something
51:38
in secret when nobody else would know. I didn't
51:41
have to tell them. He's very aware that God sees
51:44
all these things. He's done an awful lot externally,
51:47
like we've gone through chapter 29, and he's
51:49
reminiscing about all that he did. He's gone
51:51
through 30, where he's talking about sort of,
51:54
now you've got a bunch of losers in control,
51:56
you know, and I, that's what he's saying basically
51:59
in chapter 30. But now he's sort of like, he's
52:03
internalizing stuff. And he's starting to say,
52:07
well, hang on a minute. You know if i've done
52:10
this and i've done that and it is starting like
52:13
you said to wake up this is that for me that
52:15
twenty nine thirty and thirty one are the pivotal
52:18
chapters of this book yes this is so critical
52:23
they are. They are very critical. And I think
52:26
you can take this to anybody. You know, you can
52:28
look in your own life and you can say sometimes,
52:30
which we all have done, Lord, you know, why have
52:32
you brought this upon me? What have I done? I've
52:34
done this and I've done that and I've done whatever
52:36
you wanted to do and blah, blah, blah, blah,
52:38
blah, blah, blah. and you know it's only because
52:41
we now have the understanding that you know that
52:43
when God takes you through a trial or a tribulation
52:45
it's going to at the end of it yield peaceable
52:48
fruits namely righteousness what you know we
52:51
understand that we've got the whole Bible even
52:52
though some people really still don't understand
52:54
it at times you know I think even all of us have
52:57
said why why you know why has this come upon
53:01
me what you know sometimes I suffer with sort
53:03
of like being in low places And I just want to
53:07
wrap myself up and curl in a ball and just cry
53:10
to myself and just say, what is it? And then,
53:12
you know, you slap yourself around the head and
53:13
say, it's nothing that's happened. It's just
53:15
state of mind. You've got to really start thinking
53:18
about it and be honest with yourself. And I think
53:22
this is what Jobe is starting to do. And in this
53:25
honesty, you get not only what he's done and
53:28
what situation he's in, you'll get in now the
53:31
humility. You're starting to see that what he
53:34
did was really good, but maybe there could have
53:40
been some sort of understanding of the humility
53:43
of it, that maybe you didn't know the root of
53:48
all the things that you are doing or were doing.
53:52
And again, I think it's like Christ says, you
53:56
know, when you have got bear much fruit, what
53:58
does he come and do? He comes and chops it all
53:59
down. You think, well, I was full of fruit here.
54:02
I was so heavy with fruit. And you come and chop
54:04
me down and you feel naked again. You feel like
54:06
you haven't got. But God does that to those he
54:09
really is taking forward and producing a lot
54:11
of fruit. And this is what he's doing to Job.
54:13
He sees this righteous man. Satan sees this righteous
54:16
man. He's heavily laden with fruit. God says,
54:19
right, you are right for a few pruning here,
54:22
but it's through that pruning that he starts
54:25
to gain more and more understanding, more and
54:28
more wisdom. He's seeing himself and there's
54:31
more fruit gonna be produced on this tree. He's
54:33
gonna come out a totally different man from which
54:35
he went sick. And that's the whole thing. Not
54:37
only does the tree produce more fruit, but it
54:39
grows bigger and wider and stronger. And this
54:43
is what God is doing to all of his children that
54:46
he loves. He's pruning us back. You know, and
54:49
seeing it through the eyes of Job, you know,
54:52
he's got this pivotal moment. He's going to come
54:54
into an awareness that he never had before. And
54:57
it's wonderful to see. And it's like all of us,
54:59
you know, when we're pruned back by the situations
55:02
that we go through, it's God moving us forward,
55:05
not saying we've done something wrong. It's saying
55:08
now, darlings, I'm going to add to you because
55:10
this is your time for me to move you on. Yes.
55:13
Yeah, that's great, Elaine. So this is how we'll
55:18
wrap up today's study, because we just went through
55:20
a lot of chapters. There was no sense in me going
55:22
down through verse by verse and breaking it down
55:24
for you. You can read it and listen to him and
55:26
hear exactly what he's saying. I don't need to
55:28
define any of that for you. We've done enough
55:30
in this study to understand. As a matter of fact,
55:32
I would venture to say you've listened to Elaine
55:34
read enough to where when you hear or say it,
55:37
you pretty much know where she's at. And that's
55:38
what that's what I love about it. And this book.
55:41
So we've got we've immersed ourselves into this
55:43
now. Here we are. Job is finished his discourse.
55:46
He said, I will sign that indictment. I will
55:48
look at this. I want to stand before God that
55:50
let me see that accuser, give that thing to me
55:52
and I'll put it on my shoulder. I am righteous
55:54
in my own eyes. I cannot find it. It's going
55:57
to have to be God that's going to show it. That
56:00
chapter 28 wisdom has got to come from him. That's
56:04
where it's got to come from. It's not coming
56:05
from you guys. It's not coming from me, but that's
56:09
why this next chapter, chapter 32, is so awesome.
56:13
And here's, I'm going to give you a key. Didn't
56:15
mean to interrupt you Elaine. Did you have something
56:17
you wanted to say? No, I was just thinking that,
56:19
you know, again, this, this, this all that Job
56:21
has said, you know, his righteousness is towards
56:24
himself and not in his own eyes, in his own eyes.
56:27
Yes. Very good. That's exactly right. So let
56:31
me read just a couple of verses and guys, if
56:34
you would go ahead and read the entire Elihu
56:38
discourse in several chapters. But if you're
56:40
willing to go along with us, that's what I'm
56:42
going to do this next week. I'm not going to
56:44
go through every chapter. I can't go through
56:46
all of it, but we'll probably split up Elihu
56:48
into one or into two or three parts. But listen
56:52
to these first few verses and then. Let that
56:55
ruminate because now you're going to know the
56:57
position the lie who has it says So let me read
57:00
the last verse that Job's it says in the last
57:03
verb of 31 the words of Job are ended So these
57:08
three men cease to answer Job. So let's not let
57:11
the chapter break break that thought Because
57:14
he was righteous in his own eyes Then Elihu,
57:20
the son of Barakel, the Boozite of the family
57:23
of Ram, burned with anger. He burned with anger
57:27
at Job because he justified himself rather than
57:33
God. That's right. That's critical. That's critical.
57:36
And here verse three, he burned with anger also
57:40
at Job's three friends because they had found
57:42
no answer, although they had declared Job to
57:47
be In the wrong now watch his character now a
57:50
lie who had waited to speak to job because they
57:52
were older than he. And when he saw and when
57:57
you lie who saw that there was no answer in the
57:59
mouth of these three men. You burn with anger
58:01
so we'll stop there so now you got it because
58:04
he was righteous in his own eyes job said he
58:06
was right to know side. Why was angry at job
58:09
because he justified himself rather than justify
58:11
god that is the true statement yes job is righteous
58:15
he is. But the statement is that he justified
58:18
himself rather than justify God and his argument.
58:20
Elihu recognizes that. But then Elihu also looks
58:23
at the three friends and said, you guys are older
58:25
and wiser than me and none of you called him
58:27
out for this. Like, this is ridiculous. And so
58:30
he's burning anger at all four of these men sitting
58:33
here. And so now he's going to talk about how
58:36
to justify God. That is what we're getting into.
58:39
Get ready. That's beautiful. That's beautiful.
58:41
And it's the younger one as well. It's the young
58:44
buck. And this is what I'm saying, it's a bit
58:47
like, you know, like I say about the old couple,
58:49
it's always, it's never the first, it's always
58:51
the second. So you've got all these ones speaking,
58:53
all these ones that are giving words of wisdom,
58:55
and then you get this young one that seems to
58:57
have the most wisdom and displays it towards
59:00
the others. And it's a bit like sort of, you
59:03
know, the old covenant with the religious leaders,
59:05
they should have had all the answers, they had
59:07
everything. And yet here is the young Christians
59:10
that weren't intellectual, they didn't know anything,
59:12
they weren't taught by Gamaliel or anyone like
59:14
that sit at their feet. And yet here they are
59:16
coming up with answers. They're coming up with
59:18
the truth. They're pointing towards God as the
59:21
one that only should have given what is righteous,
59:25
the standard of what righteousness is. You cannot
59:26
be made righteous in your own eyes yourself.
59:29
Right you know what this reminds me of a lie
59:32
who you know what it reminds me of reminds me
59:33
of when joseph and mary to jesus to Jerusalem
59:38
as a twelve year old boy. and how he stood at
59:41
the temple steps, you know, and his parents had
59:43
left the city, but he stayed back behind at the
59:45
temple steps and started arguing, kind of like
59:47
Job at the gate with all the people or Elihu
59:49
at the gate with the young men, like Jesus is
59:52
there at the temple and he astonished all of
59:54
the lawyers. They didn't know what to do with
59:56
this young man because he understood more than
59:58
they ever did. He was the word incarnate. Let's
1:00:01
just be honest. Absolutely. But the young sometimes
1:00:04
will out speak the older, that happens for sure.
1:00:08
But again, the second, like again, it says, it
1:00:11
won't be Ishmael, it'll be Isaac. It's not the
1:00:15
old covenant, it's the new covenant. It's not
1:00:17
the first Adam, it's the last Adam. It's always
1:00:21
the second that comes up with that which God
1:00:25
wants to use. And I think there's definitely
1:00:27
a spiritual application there, which again, that's
1:00:30
a story for another time. But yeah, this is gonna
1:00:32
be this is gonna be funny This is gonna be really
1:00:35
funny, but i'm gonna take us all the way back
1:00:36
to the beginning of this conversation about my
1:00:38
daughter annabelle's wedding Because this is
1:00:41
the wisdom in it. Okay, here's the wisdom in
1:00:43
this Whenever I was a young man I would have
1:00:48
been more worried about how everybody outside
1:00:50
of me was perceiving what was going on with our
1:00:52
wedding That was the kind of person that I was
1:00:54
very superficial. I would say oh no, it's not
1:00:57
perfect And this this is terrible and what would
1:01:01
these people think of us and I put a lot of stock
1:01:03
in that But yet I watched my daughter and her
1:01:06
new husband Only care about the love and the
1:01:09
relationship they have and making everybody else
1:01:11
around them be happy That's what they they they
1:01:14
were just happy in love and they were they didn't
1:01:16
care about the rain They didn't care about the
1:01:18
temperature and that to me was just pure joy
1:01:22
I was like I am so glad that my daughter has
1:01:25
found that That's exactly. This is the whole
1:01:28
thing, isn't it? It shifted from what you said
1:01:30
when you were younger. It was all external. What
1:01:32
would people think? What were they seeing? What
1:01:33
would they look? How would they judge me? But
1:01:35
now as the older and wiser, what's going on inside
1:01:38
you has much more, much more depth of weight
1:01:42
and riches than anything external could possibly
1:01:45
give you. Yeah. Joy you must have felt was overwhelming.
1:01:50
You must have felt like the richest man in the
1:01:51
room. Yeah. And I really would love. Apart from
1:01:54
her husband, of course. I'm going to ask my daughter
1:01:57
if I can read their vows, guys. I mean, they
1:02:00
wrote their own vows and I was absolutely shocked
1:02:05
about how incredible they were. I mean, these
1:02:07
two kids are crazy about each other. I pray that
1:02:10
that sort of that first bloom of youth of a marriage
1:02:13
that it matures into something far, far deeper
1:02:17
as the years go by. That's what my that's what
1:02:21
my prayers for them, because it's so easy to
1:02:23
feel all those things. This world will chew you
1:02:27
up and spit you out man. I hope they hold on
1:02:30
to each other and just stay together and that
1:02:32
oneness. One on their own is difficult too. They
1:02:37
can help each other stand, but a threefold cord
1:02:40
cannot be easily broken. It's going to be a lot
1:02:46
harder. The amount of people I'm listening, I'm
1:02:47
hearing about that splitting up with their husbands
1:02:49
and wise lately is incredible. And I'd say 90
1:02:53
% of them I've heard. Christians. Yeah. Well,
1:02:56
guess what? That's what my you know, I'm a divorced
1:02:58
and remarried Christian and that's exactly what
1:03:00
happened to me. I was very superficial. I had
1:03:03
a lot to do with those. I used to blame her for
1:03:06
everything, but I can't anymore. God's shown
1:03:08
me a lot about me and myself. So anyway, guys,
1:03:11
I hope you've enjoyed this study. Please leave
1:03:13
us all of your comments, any questions, anything
1:03:15
you want to do, you know that we'll tackle them.
1:03:17
Don't get mad at Elaine. She doesn't know our
1:03:19
Apple ID and it's going to have to be August
1:03:21
when she gets here that we fix that. No, just
1:03:23
basically don't be mad at Elaine. Just don't
1:03:25
be mad at Elaine ever for any reason. Is that
1:03:28
fair? We always beat the dog. We always beat
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the dog. All right. But we do both love you very
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much. And we're thankful for all of you that
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are here and we'll just see you next week. See
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you next week. Read Elihu guys, get into it.
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Cause this is going to be awesome. We're about
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to wrap this study up and it, it's only a few
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more parts. Cause we're going deep. We're going
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deep. That's right. All right. Well, God bless.
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We'll see you next time. God bless you all. Love
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you all. Bye darlings. Mwah!