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Hutton & Withrow: Texas vs. Tennessee, SEC Showdowns & Tom Cruise’s Hollywood Comeback | Hour 1 · Hutton & Withrow Show

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Speaker 1: We are out of the gates on sport and state.
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Speaker 1: Good morning to you. Presented by Hard Rock Bet. This
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Speaker 1: is Hutton and Withrow. He's Chad Withrow. I'm Jonathan Hutton.
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Speaker 1: And happy football weekend. Let's get out of the gates
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Speaker 1: and start by discussing all things Tennessee and Texas. We're
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Speaker 1: discussing Tom Cruise today. Lance Taylor from the next round
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Speaker 1: will join us. We've got our Profit Like It Hot.
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Speaker 1: The best props of the college and NFL weekend all
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Speaker 1: coming up today. Plus Chad Withrow's top 10 games of
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Speaker 1: the college football weekend. Here's a hint. Dominant SEC weekend. Jack,
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Speaker 1: good morning to you.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Hutton. In the words of Flo and the Machine,
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Speaker 2: as I like to call the band, the dark days
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Speaker 2: are over. It's not Florence the Machine to me. It's
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Speaker 2: Flo and the Machine. Flo.
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Speaker 3: Flo.
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Speaker 2: Fall weather is here. It's cooler outside. We've got a
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Speaker 2: slate of games. It's unbelievable this weekend. Not just in
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Speaker 2: the SEC, but all over the place. We'll get to
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Speaker 2: those top ten games a little bit later. But, man, oh, man,
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Speaker 2: what a time to be alive. What a time to
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Speaker 2: be talking football here on this show with you, Hutton.
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Speaker 2: Great to be here.
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Speaker 1: I had mentioned earlier in the week I haven't heard
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Speaker 1: the battle for the UTs, but give it time.
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Speaker 2: Just give it time.
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Speaker 1: I should have slowed my roll and just seen things
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Speaker 1: play itself out because, well, leave it to the UTs
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Speaker 1: to make it happen.
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Speaker 2: Here we go.
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Speaker 1: Texas and Tennessee finally here. Number one versus number 14.
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Speaker 1: Can't wait for kickoff, man.
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Speaker 2: Cannot wait. And our guy Mark J. Burns at Sporting
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Speaker 2: State wrote a column where he weighs in as an outsider.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he says, you know, I'm a Michigan grad.
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Speaker 2: I think he went to Belmont Law School at one point.
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Speaker 2: And that's the first time I even heard about Tennessee
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Speaker 2: being UT. Always thinking of UT as Texas, which I
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Speaker 2: said earlier in the week, most of America, if you
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Speaker 2: say UT, Texas is a bigger state, right? Texas has
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Speaker 2: more people. They've got more alums. I understand how you
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Speaker 2: associate UT with Texas. But let me tell you as
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Speaker 2: a Tennessee grad why Mark J. Burns is incorrect here
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Speaker 2: on this. And I wouldn't expect anything less from a
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Speaker 2: Michigan man also who I'm sure defended Jim Harbaugh throughout
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Speaker 2: every turn. Probably Sharon Moore too. Because as we know,
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Speaker 2: Michigan men excel in all facets. You can't question anything
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Speaker 2: about a Michigan man. I'm going to question Mark J.
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Speaker 2: Burns on this. Mark in his column cites that There
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Speaker 2: was a trademark filed in like 1983, I think, over UT,
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Speaker 2: the logo being something for Texas as a reason that
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Speaker 2: Texas is the real UT. The University of Tennessee was
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Speaker 2: founded in 1794. The University of Texas was founded in 1883. Now,
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Speaker 2: you could say, well, Tennessee wasn't Tennessee in the beginning.
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Speaker 2: It was Blount College. It had two different names before
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Speaker 2: becoming a university. Okay, that's fine. You know, Texas had
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Speaker 2: a name before it was Texas. It was called Mexico.
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Speaker 2: And it was saved by the likes of Davy Crockett,
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Speaker 2: which I'm drinking his coffee right now. Thank you, Crockett Coffee.
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Speaker 2: And also Sam Houston, who's another Tennessean who came to
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Speaker 2: the rescue of Texas in the war against Mexico. So, look,
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Speaker 2: I am a history buff. I am a Tennessee guy,
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Speaker 2: so I'm slanted when it comes to this, but the
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Speaker 2: real UT is the University of Tennessee. Also, it doesn't
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Speaker 2: mean that much to me as a Tennessee person. So
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Speaker 2: if Texas wants it that bad, you can call yourself UT.
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Speaker 2: Because when I described UT, Hutton, I described, I say
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Speaker 2: Tennessee typically is what I say.
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Speaker 1: I was saying, I don't really say UT much anymore either.
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Speaker 1: I think it's more of like the educational.
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Speaker 2: Wing of things.
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Speaker 1: Like my dad worked in the, financial aid for the
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Speaker 1: state of Tennessee. And so directionally, you would always refer
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Speaker 1: to UT Knoxville, UT Chattanooga, UT Martin. You would determine
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Speaker 1: where you're going based on the Tennessee colleges within the
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Speaker 1: Board of Regents. That's really the only time we would
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Speaker 1: refer to UT. But I think there's something to this.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's too easy. Whenever these teams
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Speaker 1: play now in the regular season, that should be the
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Speaker 1: bragging rights. You get to hold claim to UT until
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Speaker 1: you play again. I think that would be cool. The
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Speaker 1: real UT is the team that just won most recently
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Speaker 1: against head-to-head. I think that would be something better than
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Speaker 1: a trophy.
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Speaker 2: It's a great idea. And maybe you do like an
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Speaker 2: all sports thing or you just keep it to football.
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Speaker 2: Because you're right. I mean, we have a Cy Hawk trophy.
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Speaker 2: We have Paul Bunyan's axe. We have all these different
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Speaker 2: things that we've been giving away for years. Tennessee, Kentucky
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Speaker 2: used to have the beer barrel that would pass back
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Speaker 2: and forth between the schools. Well, not really back and forth.
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Speaker 2: It would basically stay in Knoxville permanently. But you get
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying on who wins a trophy in the
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Speaker 2: football game. Hutton, I'm with you. Let's change this to
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Speaker 2: the moniker for UT. It's like everybody on the broadcast
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Speaker 2: gets to call it UT, whoever wins the game. Yes.
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Speaker 1: It would be no different than a validation on X
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Speaker 1: with the blue checkmark. You get the UT. You get
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Speaker 1: the actual watermark. You own the trademark. By winning the
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Speaker 1: football game. Now, this could turn into something where you
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Speaker 1: have a team that just dominates the series as regular
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Speaker 1: season in perpetuity. But I think it is what it is.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Mark Burns says in his piece, he's got
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Speaker 2: a quote that says, Tennessee was Blount College, then East
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Speaker 2: Tennessee College, then East Tennessee University, and then changed their
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Speaker 2: name to University of Tennessee. Again, Tennessee started in 1794.
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Speaker 2: Texas University started in 1883, almost 100 years after Tennessee. Also,
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Speaker 2: I don't care. I recognize that Mark and others who
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Speaker 2: aren't from the state of Tennessee, probably if you took
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Speaker 2: everybody in America and you said, UT, what is that?
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Speaker 2: I think a majority would say the University of Texas
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Speaker 2: and not Tennessee. But that does not deter me from
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Speaker 2: saying that I believe if you're going to say who's
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Speaker 2: the real UT, who's first, it's It's Tennessee. But as
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Speaker 2: we said, Hutton, I say Tennessee, I say Texas. I
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Speaker 2: don't use UT as much anymore. So anyway, but it's
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Speaker 2: a great piece. You can go to sportandstate.com and read
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Speaker 2: Mark's argument for Texas being the real UT, even though
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Speaker 2: I believe that he is flatly wrong.
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Speaker 1: If we're just basing it off of football, there are
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Speaker 1: more songs about Texas, I think, than Tennessee. There are
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Speaker 1: more songs about Tennessee football than there are Texas football
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Speaker 1: right now, at least in country music.
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Speaker 2: We have entered an era, Hutton, of you can have
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Speaker 2: a song for anything. I know you played with this
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Speaker 2: with AI with a song, but my aunt sent me
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Speaker 2: a song and I'm like, I don't know if it's
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Speaker 2: a real person or not, but it's a Tennessee, Texas
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Speaker 2: song about this game. It's talking about the sun rising
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Speaker 2: over the Tennessee River. It's morning on Rocky Top. Arch
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Speaker 2: Manning's coming to town. Did somebody write and perform this,
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Speaker 2: or is this AI? I can't even tell.
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Speaker 1: It's got to be AI.
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Speaker 2: It's pretty perfect, though. It's pretty perfect when I heard it.
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Speaker 2: It's got a nice video to it of showing scenes
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Speaker 2: around Knoxville and scenes around Neyland Stadium. I'm thinking, this
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Speaker 2: is pretty sweet.
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Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody in the building last night.
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Speaker 1: They're a songwriter. They were walking back in. I was
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Speaker 1: checking my mail. They were walking back in from a
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Speaker 1: songwriting session. And I said, is that on your laptop?
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Speaker 1: They didn't take kindly to that. Let me put it
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Speaker 1: that way. I was joking. But everyone's paranoid about exactly
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Speaker 1: what you're talking about because you can't really tell anymore.
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Speaker 2: It's nuts.
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Speaker 1: We can write a song right now and have it
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Speaker 1: ready by next segment if we wanted to about the
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Speaker 1: series and the matchup. Well, when Ella Langley sings Choose
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Speaker 1: in Texas, I can tell that's a human that's singing it.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Her style. But there is a
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Speaker 2: certain twang of country singer mixed with the same type
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Speaker 2: of bass in their voice that could be consistent across
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Speaker 2: so many different singers that when I hear this song,
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Speaker 2: I'll send it to you during the break. And you
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Speaker 2: can't tell if it's human or AI generated or what's
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Speaker 2: happening with the song.
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Speaker 1: Well, and then the lyrics itself. You know, like actually
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Speaker 1: writing the song. That Red Solo Cup could absolutely just
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Speaker 1: be AI now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's brilliant. I love the song. That's so easy.
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Speaker 2: It had to be human, right? Yeah. How about this?
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Speaker 2: Just speaking of series. How about Vanderbilt?
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Speaker 1: I don't know another SEC head-to-head series where Vanderbilt owns
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Speaker 1: the all-time series.
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Speaker 2: They do against Auburn. Head-to-head.
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Speaker 1: And they own it by one game. It's like 46-45-1
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Speaker 1: or something like that. I may be off on the numbers,
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Speaker 1: but it's by one game. I don't know if the
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Speaker 1: Commodores actually own another series head-to-head in the SEC. They
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Speaker 1: do against Auburn, and they won, what, the last three
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Speaker 1: of this head-to-head series.
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Speaker 2: That is crazy. Yeah, they are 23-22-1. There you go.
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Speaker 2: All-time against Auburn. Against the rest of the SEC. You
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Speaker 2: ready for this?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Alabama, they're 20-61-1. Which is better than I expected, quite frankly.
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Speaker 2: That's going way back with most of those wins. Arkansas, 3-7. Florida,
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Speaker 2: they're 11-44-2. Georgia, 20-61-2. Kentucky's close, 45-48-4.
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Speaker 3: LSU, 8-25.
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Speaker 2: Mississippi State, 7-15.
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Speaker 1: Missouri, 5-11-1.
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma, 0-2-1. Ole Miss, 40-54-2. South Carolina, they're 5-30. Wow.
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Speaker 2: Against South Carolina. Wow. Tennessee, 34-79-5.
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Speaker 1: I knew that was lopsided.
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Speaker 2: Texas, oh, they have a winning record against Texas. They're 8-5-1.
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Speaker 2: There you go. Okay. They've played Texas once, I think,
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Speaker 2: as an SEC member so far, and that was last
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Speaker 2: year at Texas. They had a big comeback late but
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Speaker 2: lost the game. So clearly they played like in the
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Speaker 2: Magoogan days, you know, back in the 20s and 30s
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Speaker 2: probably against Texas and feasted on the Longhorns back then.
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Speaker 2: And they're 0-3 against A & M. Okay.
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Speaker 1: This all brought to you by AI. Texas and Auburn.
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Speaker 2: Those are the two.
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Speaker 1: I would have never guessed those two that Vanderbilt had
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Speaker 1: the winning record over. But yet their favorite, they're the underdog,
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Speaker 1: I should say. They're getting nine and a half points
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Speaker 1: this week on the planes.
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Speaker 2: They are 149 and 464 and 18. A 250, 25%
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Speaker 2: winning percentage against the SEC. Yet they have a winning
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Speaker 2: record against Auburn. That's a crazy stat. That's a good one.
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Speaker 2: And we said it with Hard Rock Bet. I think
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Speaker 2: both of us hadn't liked Vandy with the points covering
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Speaker 2: the nine and a half. I do.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I just, you know, have they been playing
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Speaker 1: their best?
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 1: Do I think the game's close?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: I think it's less than a possession, you know.
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Speaker 2: I think that the idea that one week begats to
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Speaker 2: go biblical here, begats the next week. Like, okay, you
11:12
Speaker 2: had a big emotional win, so you're going to have
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Speaker 2: a letdown for Ole Miss going on the road, right?
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Speaker 2: You had a big loss like Auburn. They're going to
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Speaker 2: bounce back at home and handle Vandy. Vandy had a big, emotional,
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Speaker 2: crazy win on a bad play by NC State. They're
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Speaker 2: due a letdown. I don't know how consistent that is,
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Speaker 2: and I know Vegas looks into that with different teams.
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Speaker 2: Tennessee-Texas is interesting because both teams did the same exact
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Speaker 2: thing last week. They won a game easily against an
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Speaker 2: overmatched opponent in a non-spectacular fashion. They didn't really run
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Speaker 2: up the score or do anything nuts in the game.
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Speaker 2: They just ran the football and did what they were
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Speaker 2: supposed to and got out to get ready for this game.
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Speaker 2: So both teams come in riding the exact same high
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Speaker 2: or mid-level or low or whatever you want to describe
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Speaker 2: it as going into this game. I will say, Hutton,
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Speaker 2: that I had a dream last night. I often dream
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Speaker 2: about big games. that I'm going to attend, and I
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Speaker 2: never remember my dreams. But when I dream about a game,
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Speaker 2: I always remember my dream. In my dream last night,
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Speaker 2: Tennessee played Texas. For whatever reason, the game was at
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Speaker 2: night in my dream. I started the game at fullback
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Speaker 2: for Tennessee. So I can tell you exactly what the
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Speaker 2: butts of the Tennessee offensive line looks like when you're
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Speaker 2: standing behind the line with the ball being snapped. Tennessee
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Speaker 2: went down and scored on four plays running the football
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Speaker 2: with Deshaun Bishop. I did absolutely nothing. I don't even
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Speaker 2: think I touched anybody as the fullback on the play.
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Speaker 2: Then Tennessee scored on a trick play to make it 8-0.
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Speaker 2: But the final score, and I remember this, and let's
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Speaker 2: mark this down in case it comes true. The final
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Speaker 2: score of the game in my dream was Texas 64,
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Speaker 2: Tennessee 14. And this was after Tennessee taking an 8-0 lead.
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Speaker 2: In the game. So there you go. That's the Chad
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Speaker 2: Withrow dream logic of Texas and Tennessee of what's going
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Speaker 2: to happen.
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Speaker 1: And then you partied with Matthew McConaughey post-game.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Then we went straight out. Woody Harrelson joined up.
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Speaker 2: You know, Matthew McConaughey's brother. We all went out to
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Speaker 1: So JT plugged in the real UT.
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Speaker 1: Into chat GPT for some lyrics, Chad, if you would
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Speaker 1: like me to read them to you.
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Speaker 2: Yes, please do.
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Speaker 1: So he's got two verses and a chorus for us. Well,
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Speaker 1: down in Knoxville where the Tennessee River rolls, there's a
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Speaker 1: big orange pride that everybody knows. They say UT down
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Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas too, but when you bleed orange, there's
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Speaker 1: only one that's true. We're the real UT, Tennessee born
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Speaker 1: and bred. Rocky Top ringing while the Vols turn heads.
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Speaker 1: Texas has the Longhorns, and that's all right with me.
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Speaker 1: But when somebody says UT, they're talking Tennessee. From Neyland
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Speaker 1: Stadium to the hills of East Tennessee, that Power T's
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Speaker 1: been flying since the days of old Rocky Top. So Austin,
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Speaker 1: you can keep your burnt orange pride. We'll keep our
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Speaker 1: checkerboards in Tennessee skies. We're the real UT, Tennessee born
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Speaker 1: and bred. Orange on our jerseys, checkerboards overhead. Texas can
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Speaker 1: say hook them, but everybody's going to see There's only
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Speaker 1: one real UT, and it's Tennessee.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if that's ChatGPT or Lennon
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Speaker 2: and McCartney with how beautiful that writing was right there.
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Speaker 2: That was fantastic and so true also. Who knew ChatGPT
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Speaker 2: was so right on when it came to things like this?
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Speaker 1: We just need some skinny jeans, a mustache, and a mullet,
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Speaker 1: and we've got a number one hit, Chad.
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Speaker 2: Some cut-off jeans, maybe, also. Skinny cut-off jeans. A combo
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Speaker 2: you don't often see. I think we can make all
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Speaker 2: of that happen. Yes, let's do it. Let's hit the
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Speaker 2: road with this song. We should just do a tour
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Speaker 2: of ChatGPT songs. And the whole performance is we just
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Speaker 2: stand up on the stage. Instead of singing, we just
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Speaker 2: hit play on a computer. And we just let ChatGPT
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Speaker 2: play it out to the masses?
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Speaker 1: Think about how we would write and we would have Rhett. Oh,
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Speaker 1: we'd slave over those lyrics. The Lene Kukua Country Music
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Speaker 1: Game of the Week. And we would actually rewrite a
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Speaker 1: real song and make it a parody about Paul. And
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Speaker 1: play it at the end. We would crush it now.
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Speaker 1: We would have this done in no time.
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Speaker 2: Incredible. I mean, it's amazing how quick you can get
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Speaker 2: this job done now.
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Speaker 1: I was planning a day in advance trying to figure
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Speaker 1: out who was going to submit the real song and
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Speaker 1: try to get in our fantasy football league. We'll have
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Speaker 1: an update on that, by the way, coming up. Some
17:29
Speaker 1: good news for the host.
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Speaker 2: And also, by descriptions of the high school games, we
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Speaker 2: could do all the fake stuff, too. Give me fake
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Speaker 2: games from Tennessee and give me fake players and Because
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Speaker 2: I would sit there and write those out by hand.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: All the different quarterbacks' names and coaches' names and everything
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Speaker 2: else to try to fool Paul. What a fun game.
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Speaker 1: We've got to bring that back in some way at
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Speaker 1: some point. Hey, bringing it back, we'll never be able
17:53
Speaker 1: to bring back Tom Cruise, man. There's not going to
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Speaker 1: be another Tom Cruise, Chad. You sent me a lot
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Speaker 1: of videos of his recently, and they're all just awesome.
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Speaker 1: He's just a cool dude. I know he's weird.
18:04
Speaker 2: I get that. But just the.
18:06
Speaker 1: The weirdness of Tom Cruise is also part of the
18:09
Speaker 1: whole mystique and his love for movies, his love for
18:14
Speaker 1: the movie theater. We want to get back and have
18:16
Speaker 1: popcorn and a drink and watch a movie in a theater.
18:20
Speaker 1: He's the man that's going to make it happen for us,
18:22
Speaker 1: the blockbusters.
18:24
Speaker 2: It's pure. Tom Cruise, to me, his love of cinema,
18:28
Speaker 2: his love of storytelling, his love of entertaining people at
18:31
Speaker 2: a movie theater, it's just so pure and that you
18:34
Speaker 2: can't fake it when he's just talking about it naturally.
18:37
Speaker 2: And I get that Tom Cruise is an actor, right?
18:39
Speaker 2: So he could fake it if he wanted to, but
18:41
Speaker 2: he's not faking it. Like he's genuinely excited to make movies,
18:44
Speaker 2: to talk about them, do all these things. Here's why
18:47
Speaker 2: I don't think we're ever going to get another Tom Cruise.
18:49
Speaker 2: In a social media age, we see and we know
18:53
Speaker 2: too much about younger stars, right? We know more about
18:56
Speaker 2: their love life. They post them doing stupid, you know,
18:59
Speaker 2: dance videos or whatever it is. Like, Denzel Washington, I
19:03
Speaker 2: remember I saw him with Michael B. Jordan talking about
19:05
Speaker 2: a conversation he had with Denzel Washington. It's why Michael B.
19:08
Speaker 2: Jordan doesn't do a lot on social media. He told
19:11
Speaker 2: him to not even have social media, Denzel Washington did.
19:13
Speaker 2: He said, why would I give them something for free
19:15
Speaker 2: that I want them to go pay for at a
19:17
Speaker 2: movie theater? I'm not ever going to do a performance
19:20
Speaker 2: for someone on a TikTok video because that's free. There
19:25
Speaker 2: needs to be a mystique around the movie star. There's
19:28
Speaker 2: been a mystique around Tom Cruise ever since he jumped
19:30
Speaker 2: on Oprah's couch talking about his love of Katie Holmes
19:34
Speaker 2: and then did an interview on Today Show and called
19:36
Speaker 2: Matt Lauer a glib when they were talking about prescription
19:39
Speaker 2: meds and psychoanalysis or whatever they were talking about at
19:42
Speaker 2: the time. Psychiatry, I think it was.
19:44
Speaker 1: Scientology is another one.
19:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the Scientology played into his thoughts on psychoanalysis.
19:50
Speaker 2: or whatever it was they were talking about. I don't
19:51
Speaker 2: even remember. Because why do I not remember? Because Tom
19:54
Speaker 2: Cruise stopped talking about Scientology that day. I don't think
19:57
Speaker 2: he's spoken publicly about it ever since. There's a lot
20:00
Speaker 2: of rumors and writings that he left the church, but
20:03
Speaker 2: he's contractually bound not to speak about leaving it. but
20:08
Speaker 2: also that they have dirt on him. Whatever. I don't
20:11
Speaker 2: know what the rumors are, what's true or what's not.
20:13
Speaker 2: But here's what I know about Tom Cruise. The guy
20:16
Speaker 2: has not done a long-form sit-down interview, I think, since
20:19
Speaker 2: Oprah or since Matt Lauer. He's done talk shows where
20:23
Speaker 2: he does five-minute bits here and there on different shows since.
20:28
Speaker 2: But actually sitting down and having a long-form discussion, it's
20:31
Speaker 2: been few and far between. So here's just a clip
20:34
Speaker 2: that I think captures the essence of our guy, Cruise. Yep.
20:37
Speaker 2: and how excited he is about everything that he does.
20:40
Speaker 2: When he goes on with GQ and he's asked, why
20:43
Speaker 2: don't you do this more often? Here he is.
20:46
Speaker 4: You've said to me already a couple of times, you're like,
20:48
Speaker 4: I don't talk about this before you talk about something.
20:50
Speaker 4: And I was reflecting like you haven't really sat down
20:53
Speaker 4: in a context like this one.
20:54
Speaker 3: No.
20:55
Speaker 4: Yeah.
20:56
Speaker 2: See, yeah. No. For a long time. Why not?
20:59
Speaker 3: Been busy, one. Been very busy. And there's things that
21:05
Speaker 3: I want other artists to know. They see it in
21:08
Speaker 3: the same way that it's like I want them to know.
21:11
Speaker 3: When people see a movie, you want it to look easy.
21:13
Speaker 3: I don't sit here. And understanding the joy of that
21:17
Speaker 3: it's okay if it hurts. That it's hard. That it
21:21
Speaker 3: can be confusing and you don't know. If you look
21:24
Speaker 3: at my career, it's not like happenstance that I ended
21:27
Speaker 3: up in Prague at the time that I ended up
21:29
Speaker 3: in Prague. Or China when I was there. Or... you know,
21:33
Speaker 3: Dubai or wherever I, England, you know, going there in 1982,
21:37
Speaker 3: you know, to make Legend with Ridley Scott. And I,
21:41
Speaker 3: I would see those doors that open. I'm going, here's
21:44
Speaker 3: an opportunity. When I look at that time, I sincerely
21:47
Speaker 3: mean like, I'm grateful for the amount of time that
21:49
Speaker 3: I've spent where people have shared their lives with me.
21:52
Speaker 3: I can look at it for myself and go, okay,
21:55
Speaker 3: you know, this is what acting is or story or
21:57
Speaker 3: lens or what I see.
21:58
Speaker 4: I have a question about that, but just to square
22:01
Speaker 4: the circle. So you're saying basically you have not sat
22:03
Speaker 4: down in context like this one because you don't want
22:05
Speaker 4: to reveal the magic trick.
22:07
Speaker 3: I haven't just had the time where I'm like and
22:09
Speaker 3: I'm looking at it's like the journey is, you know,
22:12
Speaker 3: and where where we're going and the amount of things
22:15
Speaker 3: that I set in motion and decided I was going
22:18
Speaker 3: to do and looking back on those things that that
22:22
Speaker 3: I felt worked. Do you know what I mean? I
22:25
Speaker 3: went for competence. I went for skill. for whatever level
22:29
Speaker 3: that was, being able to then go, oh, this is
22:31
Speaker 3: what I need to focus on because I'm also, I'm
22:33
Speaker 3: a teacher and I'm a student. So I'm having to
22:36
Speaker 3: educate people on cinema and movies and I'm being, hearing
22:42
Speaker 3: what they think.
22:45
Speaker 1: Chad, how did GQ land that?
22:49
Speaker 2: Well, he's on the cover of GQ. He's promoting this
22:51
Speaker 2: new movie, Digger. I know, but he's been on the
22:54
Speaker 2: cover of a lot of stuff. Yeah. I think that,
22:57
Speaker 2: so here's my theory on this. He wants to win
23:00
Speaker 2: an Oscar. He's the biggest movie star to not win
23:03
Speaker 2: an Oscar. This is the start of his Oscar push
23:06
Speaker 2: for Digger. Now, I'm not sold on this movie, Digger.
23:08
Speaker 2: I think the trailer looks pretty funny and looks like
23:11
Speaker 2: it's going to be interesting. The early returns from critics
23:15
Speaker 2: on this, very divided. It's either, boy, this is a
23:19
Speaker 2: work of art, this is a satire masterpiece, or this
23:23
Speaker 2: movie is so confusing I don't even know what to
23:25
Speaker 2: make of it. What the message is or what they're
23:27
Speaker 2: trying to say or what they're trying to do with it.
23:29
Speaker 2: People are leaving. It's 100 or zero with people responding
23:33
Speaker 2: to the movie. I think he wants to win an Oscar,
23:36
Speaker 2: so I think he's going to do more interviews now
23:38
Speaker 2: to promote this movie and to build up to that.
23:39
Speaker 1: And he's not going to win that based on Top
23:42
Speaker 1: Gun Maverick or Days of Thunder, right? I think he
23:46
Speaker 1: knows that.
23:46
Speaker 2: You're right.
23:49
Speaker 1: How does GQ land that? Right place, right time. He's
23:51
Speaker 1: talking about Dubai and China and all these different things.
23:54
Speaker 1: And also he says, why have you done this? He goes,
23:55
Speaker 1: I haven't had the time. Well, he hasn't made the time.
23:58
Speaker 1: Dude's got as much time as you and I. and
24:01
Speaker 1: he plans it out where that's not important. Now it is,
24:04
Speaker 1: he's making the time now.
24:05
Speaker 2: You're right.
24:06
Speaker 1: That's why he's doing it. Um, it's crazy who has
24:08
Speaker 1: won and who hasn't won one of those, you know,
24:12
Speaker 1: by now he's got that. It'd be a no brainer
24:14
Speaker 1: with time.
24:15
Speaker 3: Yeah.
24:15
Speaker 1: Like, uh, the acceptance speech will be amazing.
24:17
Speaker 2: Well, didn't Martin Scorsese, I think just win for killers,
24:20
Speaker 2: the flower moon, like three years ago, you know, after
24:22
Speaker 2: his long career and all the movies.
24:24
Speaker 1: He made of all, of all the, of all the
24:26
Speaker 1: films that he's done.
24:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So Tom Cruise is, um, He's one of one.
24:33
Speaker 2: I don't know that we're going to get a lot
24:34
Speaker 2: more like him. He is very strange. I understand that
24:37
Speaker 2: people don't like him personally or whatever, but I like
24:41
Speaker 2: people who are genuinely passionate about what they do, and
24:44
Speaker 2: it comes across with a joy that they have about it. Apparently,
24:48
Speaker 2: he's made a six-hour movie that's just him explaining everything
24:53
Speaker 2: he knows about movies. It's him explaining a camera, different
24:56
Speaker 2: types of cameras, different types of lenses, and where to
24:58
Speaker 2: face the camera, where not to face the camera, lighting,
25:01
Speaker 2: like everything he's learned technically about cinematography and making movies.
25:06
Speaker 2: He's made a long film on it. And if you're
25:08
Speaker 2: his friend and you're young in the industry, you can
25:10
Speaker 2: get that, but no one else can. And I'm amazed
25:13
Speaker 2: that no one shared this, which is pretty cool, right?
25:15
Speaker 2: So any young actor that gets it knows not to
25:18
Speaker 2: share the secrets of the trade that Tom Cruise shared
25:21
Speaker 2: with them. I'm fascinated by the guy. I will go
25:24
Speaker 2: watch Digger in theaters. I don't know what I'm going
25:27
Speaker 2: to think about it, honestly. Most of the time, you
25:29
Speaker 2: see a promo for Days of Thunder 2, and I'm like,
25:32
Speaker 2: hell yeah. I'm going to love this movie. Top Gun Maverick,
25:35
Speaker 2: I saw one trailer. I was like, there's zero chance
25:38
Speaker 2: this movie's not going to be absolutely incredible when you
25:41
Speaker 2: see the trailer. A Mission Impossible movie, I'm like, yeah,
25:44
Speaker 2: I'm going to go see that. It's going to be good.
25:46
Speaker 2: Even if there's plot holes in the movie, the action
25:49
Speaker 2: and everything else is going to be fantastic because it's
25:51
Speaker 2: Tom Cruise. I'll watch anything the guy does. I love
25:55
Speaker 2: his commitment to the bit at all times when he's
25:57
Speaker 2: doing something, he's all in. I'd like to see him
26:00
Speaker 2: do another comedy. I know Digger's kind of a comedy also,
26:04
Speaker 2: but after watching him in Tropic Thunder, I'd love to
26:07
Speaker 2: see Tom Cruise not be the lead and be a
26:09
Speaker 2: comedic supporting role in another movie at some point, something
26:13
Speaker 2: very surprising. I think that Tom Cruise is the type
26:15
Speaker 2: who could win a Best Supporting Actor Oscar, maybe even
26:19
Speaker 2: before Best Actor because he does something totally surprising sometimes.
26:22
Speaker 2: in a role that no one's expecting him to do.
26:25
Speaker 2: But I'm rooting for him. You know, I think he
26:28
Speaker 2: feels like this could be his shot to win the
26:31
Speaker 2: Oscar this year. I think that's why he's doing these
26:33
Speaker 2: interviews with GQ and others. I know he sat down
26:35
Speaker 2: with the Kelsey brothers for the New Heights podcast also,
26:37
Speaker 2: which some of the outtakes from that is really, really funny.
26:41
Speaker 2: But I love the dude, Hutton. We love him on
26:43
Speaker 2: this show. We got people in the YouTube chat saying
26:46
Speaker 2: they can't stand Tom Cruise. That's fine. You know, to
26:49
Speaker 2: each their own. But I love the dude.
26:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the annoying parts of Tom Cruise were
26:56
Speaker 1: the past perception I had of him. But the most
26:59
Speaker 1: recent one, like it all started with, for me, is
27:03
Speaker 1: whenever Top Gun Maverick came out and he refused to
27:06
Speaker 1: release it during COVID.
27:08
Speaker 2: Right?
27:09
Speaker 1: Because we had Glenn Powell on. I can't remember the
27:11
Speaker 1: actress's name.
27:12
Speaker 2: You will, Chad. Monica Barbaro. There you go. They came on.
27:15
Speaker 2: Who's blown up, by the way. She's done huge things.
27:18
Speaker 2: Since that interview with us. I credit that interview on
27:20
Speaker 2: Radio Row with us for blowing up. Both actors. Oh, yeah.
27:24
Speaker 2: Glenn Powell, for sure.
27:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they were going around Radio Row at the
27:27
Speaker 1: Super Bowl together. Not individual. And promoting the Top Gun Maverick.
27:33
Speaker 1: And that was 2019-2020. That was January 2020. Then COVID hits.
27:39
Speaker 1: And they postponed the release. Because that was going to be,
27:43
Speaker 1: you know, they're promoting that at the Super Bowl because
27:45
Speaker 1: of the summer blockbuster. Sandler would do this months in
27:50
Speaker 1: advance too. They would roll through that. Then he just said,
27:54
Speaker 1: this is made to be in a theater.
27:56
Speaker 2: I'm going to hold it.
27:57
Speaker 1: He's not going to let Apple release it or whoever
28:00
Speaker 1: was the online streamer that released it right after it
28:03
Speaker 1: went to theater. I was like, man, this is going
28:05
Speaker 1: to be awesome because this is what.
28:06
Speaker 2: We wanted to hear. We wanted to get back in
28:08
Speaker 2: the movie theater.
28:10
Speaker 1: That was the first time I went back. We went
28:12
Speaker 1: and saw it. It was fantastic. That's when he wanted
28:16
Speaker 1: me back.
28:17
Speaker 2: Oh, for sure. This guy gets it. Catfish Jake says, God,
28:20
Speaker 2: I hate Tom Cruise. One of the weirdest, most self-important
28:23
Speaker 2: Scientologist weirdos ever. He goes on to say he has
28:27
Speaker 2: some great action movies, but I just don't like that
28:29
Speaker 2: sawed off little weirdo. JT chimes in and says, JT's
28:33
Speaker 2: going to have to pop on here and explain this
28:34
Speaker 2: to me. JT says, I don't hate him, but Cruise
28:38
Speaker 2: is just a notch above John Hader for me. Napoleon Dynamite.
28:42
Speaker 2: Can you explain with a comparison the comp between John
28:46
Speaker 2: Hader and Tom Cruise, JT? What do you think about
28:49
Speaker 2: the movie Napoleon Dynamite, Chad? You're like a movie expert.
28:55
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's overrated. I laugh at some
28:58
Speaker 2: parts of it. I like Uncle Rico in the movie,
29:00
Speaker 2: but I'm not a huge fan. I'm just going to
29:02
Speaker 2: stop you there.
29:03
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about everything that Tom Cruise does.
29:05
Speaker 2: Okay. Like Top Gun? You don't like Top Gun?
29:09
Speaker 4: No.
29:09
Speaker 2: It's that mixed with.
29:10
Speaker 1: His personality off of, not that you never see him
29:14
Speaker 1: off camera, but he seems like a jerk.
29:17
Speaker 2: He's a jerk. I don't get that.
29:19
Speaker 1: No, I think he does come across that way. He
29:23
Speaker 1: doesn't come across that way to me anymore.
29:25
Speaker 2: I think you're taking the one interview with Matt Lauer
29:28
Speaker 2: where he says he's glib and he gets all in
29:30
Speaker 2: his face about it. And maybe if you've heard the
29:33
Speaker 2: audio of him screaming at the crew on how the
29:36
Speaker 2: movie business relies on us. to complete this movie, then
29:39
Speaker 2: I think you would think he's a jerk. Everything else
29:41
Speaker 2: he does, he sends like fruitcakes to 2,000 people every Christmas.
29:45
Speaker 2: Everybody who's worked with him, Glenn Powell sat there and
29:47
Speaker 2: talked to us. He's the most generous dude in the world.
29:50
Speaker 2: He's so genuinely happy to be there and so nice
29:53
Speaker 2: to everyone on set. He's known as one of the
29:56
Speaker 2: nicest guys in Hollywood for people who've gone to movies
29:58
Speaker 2: with him.
29:59
Speaker 1: Why is he just now finally willing to talk to somebody?
30:03
Speaker 2: You're too busy doing what? You can't give somebody 20 minutes?
30:07
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that too. It's like he doesn't have the time.
30:12
Speaker 1: But to Chad's point, the perception I have of him now,
30:16
Speaker 1: JT is on the– that's kind of what I thought
30:19
Speaker 1: of him up until the release of Top Gun Maverick.
30:24
Speaker 1: was just kind of a jerk because that's literally the
30:27
Speaker 1: perception he allowed to happen because he wouldn't sit down
30:29
Speaker 1: and do these long-form interviews.
30:30
Speaker 2: I think it's just good PR. I mean, I think
30:32
Speaker 2: he was in an absolute shitstorm over that whole thing
30:36
Speaker 2: with Oprah followed by Matt Lauer and everybody hating him
30:39
Speaker 2: at that point. And his publicist is a good one
30:42
Speaker 2: and said, dude, stop doing interviews. Just go make your movies.
30:45
Speaker 2: People like you on screen. They like you doing movies.
30:47
Speaker 2: They don't like you in interviews, so stop. And he
30:49
Speaker 2: stopped for a while.
30:50
Speaker 1: I don't think people are going to get on to.
30:53
Speaker 2: Denzel Washington and say, hey, Denzel, you're a jerk for
30:56
Speaker 2: not being on social media. Well, you're too good for us.
30:59
Speaker 2: You don't have time. You don't have time to post
31:01
Speaker 2: about what you're doing. You don't have time to post
31:03
Speaker 2: about photos. Like, I don't buy that. And we got
31:06
Speaker 2: to separate the actors in their roles from their personal life. Like,
31:12
Speaker 2: because I love Tom Cruise on screen doesn't mean I
31:14
Speaker 2: support Scientology. Because I think Seth Rogen is funny doesn't
31:18
Speaker 2: mean I support Seth Rogen's politics.
31:21
Speaker 1: Right, but we're saying we like the guy. And they're
31:25
Speaker 1: saying that they find him annoying and just, like, you know,
31:30
Speaker 1: sawed off, which is funny by Catfish Jake.
31:32
Speaker 2: I just have a hard time believing. Like, Catfish Jake,
31:35
Speaker 2: I like his action movies. You're going to find something
31:39
Speaker 2: in Tom Cruise's catalog you like. I just refuse to believe.
31:43
Speaker 2: This is a segment for another day, Hutton, but I
31:45
Speaker 2: had this constant debate with a buddy of mine who
31:47
Speaker 2: says Will Ferrell is not funny. And I'm like, Will
31:50
Speaker 2: Ferrell is the biggest comedic star, movie star, comedy movie
31:54
Speaker 2: star of the 21st century. When you go through his
31:58
Speaker 2: movies and the money they made and the impact they had,
32:01
Speaker 2: I would argue he's funny. Is he your cup of
32:05
Speaker 2: tea all the time? Maybe not. Does he get tired
32:10
Speaker 2: and old as he gets into his 50s now and
32:11
Speaker 2: it seems like he's playing the same character and doing
32:13
Speaker 2: the same bits over and over and over again? Sure,
32:17
Speaker 2: maybe that's the case, but to argue that Anchorman and
32:21
Speaker 2: Step Brothers and Talladega Nights... And all those movies he
32:24
Speaker 2: made in a row aren't funny is ridiculous. I feel
32:28
Speaker 2: the same way about Tom. I'm getting fired up about
32:30
Speaker 2: my guy Tom Cruise, but there's no way I can
32:32
Speaker 2: show you his IMDb.
32:33
Speaker 1: Page and you'd say, I hate all these movies. Yeah,
32:37
Speaker 1: but I would also say, there are things that are
32:40
Speaker 1: just bizarre. But the perception I had of him up
32:44
Speaker 1: until the real push for Maverick was just that. This
32:49
Speaker 1: past year, he's sitting in the front row of a
32:50
Speaker 1: Scientology celebration of L. Ron Hubbard.
32:55
Speaker 2: Down in Florida.
32:56
Speaker 1: Or he's on stage talking about Thetans whenever that Scientologist
33:02
Speaker 1: documentary came out or whatever. It's just like the whole
33:05
Speaker 1: thing of that is just bizarre. And that's kind of
33:08
Speaker 1: where I had him. It was just this aloof, crazy ass.
33:14
Speaker 1: Now it's different because of the things that he's done
33:19
Speaker 1: since the rollout of the of the blockbuster, bringing back
33:24
Speaker 1: Top Gun Maverick.
33:25
Speaker 2: I haven't seen him do anything with Scientology.
33:26
Speaker 1: The perception was just exactly what those guys were saying.
33:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I get the perception in 2004 when all
33:32
Speaker 2: that stuff was going down and he was heavy into Scientology.
33:35
Speaker 2: I haven't seen him do anything Scientology recently, so I
33:38
Speaker 2: didn't know that he was front row for some celebration
33:40
Speaker 2: of L. Ron Hubbard.
33:41
Speaker 1: There was a birthday celebration for the alien or whatever.
33:43
Speaker 2: I'll delineate the two this way, because I hear this
33:46
Speaker 2: a lot about Seth Rogen, whose politics are insane at times,
33:50
Speaker 2: like a lot of Hollywood people. Their politics are insane
33:54
Speaker 2: with how far left and off the grid they've gone
33:57
Speaker 2: with certain things. I totally understand that. And if you
34:01
Speaker 2: don't want to go watch Pedro Pascal. in something because
34:06
Speaker 2: he's way far left on it. Like, okay, that's fine.
34:10
Speaker 2: My issue becomes when you put that across in your art.
34:13
Speaker 2: So if you were doing a movie and like the
34:15
Speaker 2: whole movie is trying to brainwash people into one way
34:18
Speaker 2: of thinking, and that becomes your personality on screen when
34:22
Speaker 2: you're playing a character, then I shut it down. Like
34:25
Speaker 2: I'm not watching. I don't care anymore about it. I
34:27
Speaker 2: don't care about the slant you're doing. I can still
34:29
Speaker 2: watch something Seth Rogen does because I think he's funny,
34:32
Speaker 2: and it's not like pushing an agenda when he's doing
34:34
Speaker 2: his movies. Now, I'm not going to listen to Seth
34:36
Speaker 2: Rogen and interview, and I'm not going to support him
34:39
Speaker 2: personally or politically and what he's saying, but I can
34:42
Speaker 2: still watch a movie and think that he's funny. Well,
34:44
Speaker 2: it's the same with music.
34:46
Speaker 1: A lot of the musicians that I love are crazy.
34:50
Speaker 2: I just saw a clip of Dave Matthews last week
34:52
Speaker 2: saying he's effing tired of this president. Yeah. But you're
34:56
Speaker 2: not going to stop listening to Dave Matthews because of that.
34:59
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I love Dave. I don't want to
35:02
Speaker 1: meet him in person. You know, like I don't think
35:05
Speaker 1: I don't think he would be great to hang out with.
35:08
Speaker 1: But I love the music. I'll always be a fan
35:10
Speaker 1: of Dave Matthews' band. But same thing, I think Bruce
35:15
Speaker 1: Springsteen comes to mind. I still respect everything that he
35:22
Speaker 1: does as an artist, but I don't listen to what
35:27
Speaker 1: he's preaching about. I don't follow everything the guy says.
35:31
Speaker 1: If you can act, I'm going to follow and watch.
35:34
Speaker 1: If you annoy me, chances are the movies aren't going.
35:41
Speaker 2: To be that great. I'm fine with you not supporting
35:45
Speaker 2: Lee Greenwood. Lee Greenwood is the example I'm going to make.
35:49
Speaker 2: I'm fine with you not supporting Bruce Springsteen because his
35:54
Speaker 2: music is politics now. Right.
35:56
Speaker 1: Like his songs are political. Everything about him is political.
35:59
Speaker 1: But I can still listen. I can still listen to
36:02
Speaker 1: the hits. Yes.
36:03
Speaker 2: Just fine. Sure. I can do that, too. But I
36:06
Speaker 2: can understand like not just like if you're a Democrat
36:10
Speaker 2: or you're on the left and you're like, you know,
36:11
Speaker 2: everything that John Rich or Lee Greenwood sings about now
36:15
Speaker 2: is political. Well, it talks about. So I'm not going
36:17
Speaker 2: to say I can understand that. Again, separating the politics
36:22
Speaker 2: from the art of it. When you blend the two.
36:25
Speaker 2: That's when you're going to turn a segment of the
36:27
Speaker 2: society off. I think Tom Cruise, and look, correct me
36:31
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, chime in on the YouTube chat if
36:33
Speaker 2: you feel like, if you think his movies and everything
36:35
Speaker 2: he does is Scientology coded, when you watch Top Gun Maverick,
36:40
Speaker 2: or when you watch Color of Money, or when you
36:42
Speaker 2: watch Risky Business, or you watch Jerry Maguire, if you
36:45
Speaker 2: feel like he's preaching Scientology to you in those characters,
36:50
Speaker 2: then tell me. I just don't see that. With Tom Cruise.
36:54
Speaker 1: There's an alien living in his body, Jeff.
36:56
Speaker 2: There's a Thetan. But again, if he does a movie
37:01
Speaker 2: that's glorifying Scientology, talking about Thetans, then I'm out. I'm like, yeah,
37:06
Speaker 2: I'm done. I get what everybody's saying, but his movie
37:09
Speaker 2: characters and his hour persona is different than whatever he
37:13
Speaker 2: does religiously.
37:15
Speaker 1: But this started not because of the actor, but the person.
37:18
Speaker 1: We're talking about we like Tom Cruise, right? Not the
37:24
Speaker 1: character he's playing. They're reacting to the person and how
37:29
Speaker 1: it annoys them. I understand it, but the perception I
37:33
Speaker 1: had of him is not the one I have now,
37:36
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. Lee Greenwood, too. He also annoys me.
37:41
Speaker 1: I feel like the only person who doesn't take their
37:43
Speaker 1: hat off and stand and pledge allegiance whenever I hear
37:46
Speaker 1: God bless the USA. It's not the national anthem, but
37:49
Speaker 1: Lee Greenwood treats like that. Also, the perception I have
37:51
Speaker 1: of Lee Greenwood is he was too good to bowl
37:53
Speaker 1: with us at a charity event.
37:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was also really struggling with some sort
37:57
Speaker 2: of carpal tunnel issue that night, too. Didn't he have
37:59
Speaker 2: a cast on?
37:59
Speaker 1: He went behind a curtain and bowled on a solo lane.
38:02
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. That's my perception of the guy. I don't
38:07
Speaker 2: like that. Again, I think when your whole public being,
38:11
Speaker 2: going back to Scientology, is politics or one-side political, then
38:16
Speaker 2: I understand politics. People on the other side aren't going
38:18
Speaker 2: to support that person or like it. I just don't
38:21
Speaker 2: feel that way with Tom Cruise. I don't like the
38:23
Speaker 2: Scientology thing. I get that he's come across as a
38:27
Speaker 2: jerk a couple times publicly. I also will say there's
38:31
Speaker 2: way more positive with him in the industry than negative
38:35
Speaker 2: with people who actually know him and work with him.
38:38
Speaker 2: At least in what they say in interviews. There are
38:40
Speaker 2: people who are classically jerks. In Hollywood. To people that
38:44
Speaker 2: work for them, to people that work underneath them. That
38:46
Speaker 2: is not Tom Cruise from anyone who's ever worked on
38:50
Speaker 2: a set with him at any given time. He is
38:52
Speaker 2: genuinely interested in everybody on set and what they do
38:56
Speaker 2: for a living and their craft. And he's asking about
38:58
Speaker 2: them and what they're doing. That's how he's learned so
39:01
Speaker 2: much about the movie industry. I respect that.
39:05
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise is on tour to win an award. Lane
39:09
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Speaker 1: Hey, one pledge we've always made is we're not going
40:20
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40:22
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40:25
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40:28
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40:32
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40:34
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40:34
Speaker 2: We've got one.
40:36
Speaker 1: And we'll update it because there's a lot of season
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40:40
Speaker 1: shout out right now if we could, Chad.
40:42
Speaker 2: But look at....
40:44
Speaker 1: Reno is in the top five here. So is Asian
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40:53
Speaker 1: are the host and the producer here.
40:54
Speaker 2: Well done. Well done, guys. This doesn't usually work out
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41:10
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41:13
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41:15
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41:19
Speaker 2: we will never be the show that takes questions from
41:23
Speaker 2: the audience. Hey, should I start Zay Flowers or Michael
41:27
Speaker 2: Pittman this week in this game? And I'm thinking that
41:30
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41:33
Speaker 2: that does not appeal to the masses at all. Well,
41:35
Speaker 2: I'd go with Zay Flowers. Right, right. We're never going
41:38
Speaker 2: to be that show that does that. God bless shows
41:41
Speaker 2: that spend time on that, but when you get into
41:43
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41:47
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41:49
Speaker 1: God bless chairs and God bless microphones. God bless pencils. Pencils,
41:54
Speaker 1: because you're able to write. That's some classic Howard Stern prank.
41:59
Speaker 1: God bless God.
42:00
Speaker 2: God bless coffee. Without him, we wouldn't be able to
42:01
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42:02
Speaker 4: Yep.
42:03
Speaker 1: The classic tradeo call there, if you haven't heard it.
42:06
Speaker 2: Yes.
42:07
Speaker 1: Chad, we've got Kiffin. Speaking of Tom Cruise, Kiffin goes
42:12
Speaker 1: back and forth with me, too. I'm on the lane drain,
42:15
Speaker 1: and then he's annoying. Then I'm back on the lane drain.
42:18
Speaker 1: He's on the excuse tour right now, and I'm not
42:20
Speaker 1: on board. I'm not on board right now.
42:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a tweet from Brennan Chapman. who says,
42:26
Speaker 2: let's update Lane Kiffin's running list since Saturday of things
42:29
Speaker 2: he's complained about. Okay, you ready for this, Hutton? It's
42:31
Speaker 2: going to take me a little while, so bear with
42:33
Speaker 2: me here, okay? And sorry to the person that hates
42:35
Speaker 2: when I look down on the show, but I'm going
42:38
Speaker 2: to have to look down on my phone now, guy.
42:40
Speaker 2: So don't hit us up with your complaints about it,
42:42
Speaker 2: but here we go. The return was more emotional than
42:45
Speaker 2: he expected. He wasn't as in competitive mode as he
42:49
Speaker 2: thought he'd be. It's hard to win SEC road games
42:52
Speaker 2: at night. LSU had injuries. Sam Leavitt mispracticed. Levitt missed
42:56
Speaker 2: third down red zone prep. Levitt left clean pockets too early.
43:00
Speaker 2: Levitt missed open receivers. LSU had a guy open on
43:03
Speaker 2: the final drive. LSU had two guys open in the
43:06
Speaker 2: end zone on another play. A missed block cost LSU
43:09
Speaker 2: another TD. LSU settled for three from the Ole Miss three.
43:14
Speaker 2: LSU gave up a TD right before halftime. The players
43:16
Speaker 2: felt like they lost the game in multiple situations, not
43:19
Speaker 2: the coaches. Chambliss kept beating the right defensive calls that
43:24
Speaker 2: the coaches had. Chambliss is basically impossible to defend. Ole
43:28
Speaker 2: Miss treated it like their Super Bowl. LSU had to
43:31
Speaker 2: play at Ole Miss two years in a row. The
43:33
Speaker 2: SEC scheduling format put them in that position. And now
43:36
Speaker 2: Ole Miss was playing music through the snap again and again.
43:40
Speaker 2: It's Wednesday. At some point you can say Ole Miss
43:43
Speaker 2: just beat you. The Ole Miss playing music through the
43:46
Speaker 2: snap again and again, to me, is the most interesting
43:49
Speaker 2: of those excuses because that is a violation of SEC
43:53
Speaker 2: protocol to play music during a play or as the
43:56
Speaker 2: snap is happening. If, in fact, that was happening, if
43:58
Speaker 2: he's lying about it, then it's just another fake excuse
44:01
Speaker 2: about what happened. I mean, look, everything he said there
44:06
Speaker 2: is probably true. But, you know, it does come across
44:10
Speaker 2: as crying over spilled milk. Instead of just saying, hey,
44:13
Speaker 2: they're the better team right now. You know, we're going
44:16
Speaker 2: to work to be better than them as the season
44:18
Speaker 2: goes along. But credit Ole Miss, they're the better team.
44:21
Speaker 2: You could just say that also.
44:23
Speaker 1: But also, like, the music. How could you hear the
44:27
Speaker 1: music for the crowd? You know, you could hear the music,
44:31
Speaker 1: but you can't hear the crowd. That's distracting. That would
44:36
Speaker 1: be my question.
44:37
Speaker 2: Did you– speaking of not hearing things– Steve Sarkeesian was
44:41
Speaker 2: on a call with the media, I think the Texas
44:43
Speaker 2: media yesterday, and they asked him about the president being there. Yeah,
44:46
Speaker 2: we'll bring this up with LT later. Yeah, yeah. And
44:49
Speaker 2: what a crazy deal where they shut down all communication
44:53
Speaker 2: during that time. You've got Tennessee fans now imploring President
44:56
Speaker 2: Trump to get up and move during key drives offensively
45:00
Speaker 2: for Texas so that it shuts down their communication when
45:03
Speaker 2: Tennessee's on defense.
45:04
Speaker 1: But Insignetti says in that Miami game, Going back to the,
45:10
Speaker 1: he's reiterating because he was asked about this after Sarkeesian
45:13
Speaker 1: said something about the headsets. He's reiterated that the headsets
45:16
Speaker 1: did not go out whenever Indiana was playing Miami. Maybe
45:22
Speaker 1: it was a set of circumstances in that building that
45:26
Speaker 1: Sarkeesian was in. Also, if you ask me a list
45:29
Speaker 1: of SEC coaches that would just flat out lie, to
45:32
Speaker 1: make themselves look better or make their job and their
45:34
Speaker 1: life look more.
45:35
Speaker 2: Difficult than it is. Lane Kiffin's the highest on that list.
45:38
Speaker 2: And I would say Sark is probably pretty high up
45:40
Speaker 2: there too. So if what Signetti's saying is true, I
45:44
Speaker 2: would put him on that list. Signetti's the opposite. Like
45:46
Speaker 2: he's never going to make an excuse. For anything at all.
45:50
Speaker 2: It's just going to be matter of fact. You're an idiot.
45:52
Speaker 2: I'm smart about everything. And I respect that honesty from them.
45:56
Speaker 1: It is crazy how little coverage the court ruling has
45:59
Speaker 1: had on the two players who are playing and allowed
46:01
Speaker 1: to play for Indiana this year. They just got that
46:04
Speaker 1: ruling this week to remain on the roster.
46:07
Speaker 2: But were they in a training camp? Or were they
46:11
Speaker 2: like mini camp? We're down in week four.
46:15
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah.
46:18
Speaker 2: What surprised me about that, honestly, is that the Big
46:20
Speaker 2: Ten isn't more staunch on doing what the SEC did
46:24
Speaker 2: because they're always– they try to be the conference of
46:27
Speaker 2: we take the high road. We're more academically elite. We
46:31
Speaker 2: play by the rules. So I feel like Tony Petitti
46:37
Speaker 2: and the Big Ten would be more on the line of, hey,
46:39
Speaker 2: we're going to kick you out of the conference if
46:41
Speaker 2: any team does this the way Greg Sankey got tough
46:43
Speaker 2: on it with LSU. I really think that the Sankey
46:46
Speaker 2: toughness and SEC toughness was Kiffin-based. Oh, yeah.
46:51
Speaker 1: If it was any other coach or program, and again,
46:55
Speaker 1: government played a factor in this too, would the response
46:58
Speaker 1: have been the same? If this were Heupel or Clark
47:08
Speaker 1: Lee instead of Lane Kiffin, or if this were an
47:12
Speaker 1: NFL player getting cut and coming to play at Vandy,
47:15
Speaker 1: what it would have been.
47:17
Speaker 2: Chad. So speaking of LSU, by the way, also they're
47:20
Speaker 2: projected to have a $ 26 million deficit in their athletic
47:24
Speaker 2: department this year after a $ 44 million deficit. I was
47:27
Speaker 2: going to say last year was even worse. Because of
47:30
Speaker 2: all the coaches they're paying and how much they're paying them.
47:33
Speaker 2: And you're paying players. I mean, they've got a $ 50
47:34
Speaker 2: million roster. I think them and Texas, I think are
47:39
Speaker 2: the two that are widely considered to be the richest
47:42
Speaker 2: rosters in There are others that are 40-plus. I think
47:45
Speaker 2: Tennessee is one of them that is investing more than
47:47
Speaker 2: $ 40 million in their roster. But LSU and Texas are
47:50
Speaker 2: right up there. So that costs money now for the school, too.
47:53
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, the WNBA is profitable, and they're
47:58
Speaker 1: owned by the NBA. The NBA can control how much.
48:01
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? If it's the athletic department,
48:04
Speaker 1: the university can funnel money in a different way and
48:07
Speaker 1: make it profitable.
48:08
Speaker 2: Well, and they're going to become profitable. Like, I think
48:11
Speaker 2: that this is all the coaching, you know, the paying
48:14
Speaker 2: off Brian Kelly and how much they owed him and
48:16
Speaker 2: then having to go and, you know, pay for Lane
48:19
Speaker 2: Kiffin and you just hired another coach in Will Wade.
48:22
Speaker 1: It's just all of that at once. The TV does
48:23
Speaker 1: itself and the college football playoff. I don't think they're
48:26
Speaker 1: working at a deficit.
48:27
Speaker 2: They should be able to get back to even pretty quick. Again,
48:30
Speaker 2: it went from 44 last year to 26 this year.
48:33
Speaker 2: If it's 13 a year from now, two years from now,
48:35
Speaker 2: they'll be back to even. And not operating at a deficit.
48:38
Speaker 1: If it's that dire, don't hire the coach that you
48:39
Speaker 1: just fired with the same type of contract, if not
48:42
Speaker 1: more incentives.
48:43
Speaker 2: Right. You know, if it's that dire.
48:45
Speaker 1: Hey, SEC fans need to keep their powder dry. That's
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Speaker 1: Jen, I'm headed to a memorial for a celebration of
49:52
Speaker 1: life for Coach Dave McGinnis, Coach Mack, who had the
49:55
Speaker 1: famous saying, keep your powder dry. And shout out to Mack,
49:59
Speaker 1: as we say, SEC fancy to keep their powder dry.
50:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly shout out to Coach Mack. And best of
50:06
Speaker 2: luck on your travels this weekend, Hutton, in honoring and
50:09
Speaker 2: memorializing a stellar individual and an absolute legend of a man,
50:14
Speaker 2: Coach Dave McGinnis. And he had many legendary sayings. And
50:17
Speaker 2: I often repeat the saying, even with my softball team,
50:20
Speaker 2: I'd say we've got to keep our powder dry. And
50:22
Speaker 2: these 11-year-old girls would look at me like, what is
50:24
Speaker 2: this guy, what is this old man talking about? Keep
50:26
Speaker 2: your powder dry? No one understands what it means. It
50:29
Speaker 2: doesn't matter what it means. What it means is stay calm.
50:32
Speaker 2: What it means is don't go freaking out, as Frank
50:35
Speaker 2: the Tank said in old school. You can't go freaking out.
50:37
Speaker 2: Keep your powder dry, SEC fans. This is not the
50:42
Speaker 2: days of the 1990s where one loss and you're doomed
50:46
Speaker 2: for a national title or an SEC title in many years.
50:49
Speaker 2: It's a new era. It's not totally NFL-like in that
50:53
Speaker 2: you get so many passes like you do in the
50:56
Speaker 2: NFL to lose games, but it's becoming more and more
50:58
Speaker 2: like that. And when you're in a conference– The same
51:01
Speaker 2: goes for the Big Ten, for the most part, not
51:03
Speaker 2: the bottom of the conference. But in the SEC, everybody's
51:05
Speaker 2: spending money. Vandy's spending money. Kentucky's spending money. Arkansas eventually
51:09
Speaker 2: is going to spend money. Everybody top to bottom is
51:12
Speaker 2: spending money. They're going to get high-level guys from the
51:16
Speaker 2: lower levels, from the group of six to come in
51:19
Speaker 2: and make things happen for their rosters. Everybody can be
51:22
Speaker 2: had in this league. So you have to keep the
51:25
Speaker 2: mindset of one loss isn't a killer. Two losses aren't
51:30
Speaker 2: a killer. In some cases, three losses might not be
51:33
Speaker 2: a killer. Now, you get into four, five, and six,
51:35
Speaker 2: and if you had aspirations to play in the playoff,
51:38
Speaker 2: you're done at that point for the playoff, and you're
51:40
Speaker 2: worried about playing for pride at that point in the season.
51:43
Speaker 2: I think everybody outside of LSU and A & M
51:46
Speaker 2: this weekend, Hutton, they're not playing with house money, but
51:50
Speaker 2: it's so early in the SEC season that you can't
51:53
Speaker 2: treat this as a do-or-die situation if you're an SEC fan.
51:56
Speaker 2: It sure feels like do-or-die for those two teams, though.
51:59
Speaker 2: with LSU and A & M in this game. The
52:01
Speaker 2: loser of that game with what the schedule looks like
52:04
Speaker 2: and what remains, that feels like an SEC elimination game.
52:08
Speaker 2: It does, man.
52:09
Speaker 1: And hey, if South Carolina were to beat Bama, Bama
52:11
Speaker 1: fans are certainly going to have some wet powder.
52:15
Speaker 2: No doubt.
52:15
Speaker 1: They're going to have some wet powder. By the way,
52:18
Speaker 1: it's the gunpowder. You want to keep your gunpowder dry.
52:21
Speaker 1: Wet gunpowder doesn't fire.
52:23
Speaker 2: And also, I'd say on the flip side, if South
52:25
Speaker 2: Carolina goes down there and gets blown out by Alabama,
52:27
Speaker 2: South Carolina fans are going to start talking about their coach.
52:30
Speaker 2: And the job he has, because it's like, we've got
52:31
Speaker 2: a little more sellers than these guys, and now they're 0-2,
52:34
Speaker 2: and it's not going to get any easier as the
52:35
Speaker 2: season goes on. There's going to be a lot of
52:37
Speaker 2: that going on in South Carolina.
52:39
Speaker 1: Well, we already heard Beamer at the presser. He was
52:41
Speaker 1: talking about losing Mississippi State, and then he goes, we
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Speaker 1: may lose this week. We're going to come back and
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Speaker 1: get ready for the next game. I'm like, you don't
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Speaker 1: need to lose this week. You could win a lot
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Speaker 1: of people back by going on the road and winning.
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Speaker 2: And it does feel like this is the type of
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Speaker 2: game Beamer surprises, right? If we're going on the Shane
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Speaker 2: Beamer seesaw, It's like last night with the Atlanta Falcons.
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Speaker 2: He goes to Tuscaloosa and shocks the world. Like last
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Speaker 2: night with the Atlanta Falcons, Chad. You know? Hey, my guy,
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Speaker 2: Michael Penix Jr. Yeah, man. Looking pretty good in his return.
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Speaker 2: Maybe he's finally got that body figured out and he's
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Speaker 2: healed and he's ready to spin it.
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Speaker 1: Hey, just a reminder, as we get ready for LT,
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Speaker 1: he's going to join us. Coming up, Wagon Wheel tonight
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Speaker 1: in Knoxville. You've got 8.15 Eastern start time. Going to
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Speaker 1: be live right here across the Sporting State Network. Dixieland
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Speaker 1: Delight Friday night, Chad.
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Speaker 2: That's right. Myself, in fact, I'm about to head to
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Speaker 2: the airport here in about an hour and a half
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Speaker 2: to go pick the ladies up to head east to Knoxville. Myself,
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Speaker 2: Kelly Stewart, Ariel Epstein, Vols baseball star Levi Clark will
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Speaker 2: join us. It's going to be a big time at
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Speaker 2: Wagon Wheel. Awesome spot in the Old City. Come hang
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Speaker 2: out with us if you're in Knoxville. If not, check
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Speaker 2: us out on the YouTube pages. We'll be everywhere we
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Speaker 2: do business tonight, 8.15 Eastern Time. Looking forward to it, man.
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Speaker 1: And looking forward to our chat coming up with Lance Taylor, L.T.,
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Speaker 1: from Next Round Live. The Next Round host who follows
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Speaker 1: us right here at Hutton & Withrow, he joins us
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Speaker 1: next on Sporting State.