Latest / BIGPLAY Cleveland / The BIGPLAY Cleveland Show 07/15/26
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- 0:00[SPEAKER_01]: They say good things come to those who wait, but I do think there is a limit on how much you can wait And we've all hit our limits.
- 0:10[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if LeBron James watches big play.
- 0:12[SPEAKER_01]: He should.
- 0:13[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why he wouldn't But if somehow anybody's watching please for all of us
- 0:20[SPEAKER_01]: we're ready for a decision if you're ready for a decision i think he knows where he wants to go let's end this madness we can all enjoy a little bit of summer before we dive right back into football which is right around the corner we got plenty of football to talk today Jared verse
- 0:39[SPEAKER_01]: with some high remarks.
- 0:40[SPEAKER_01]: I guess when he talked about the quarterback competition, we did you on with Jeremy Fowler's top 10 players at each position.
- 0:47[SPEAKER_01]: Some love for Carson Swesinger and what a comp for him.
- 0:51[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to that coming up.
- 0:53[SPEAKER_01]: Gards.
- 0:54[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, we have some record setting guys on the guards.
- 0:57[SPEAKER_01]: Kate Smith and Parker Messick.
- 1:00[SPEAKER_01]: ERA all-time all-star leaders.
- 1:02[SPEAKER_01]: Look it up.
- 1:05[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't kill a better year.
- 1:07[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter.
- 1:10[SPEAKER_01]: 0.00.
- 1:11[SPEAKER_01]: For Parker, Messigan Cade Smith, fun with the All-Star game, fun with the home run Derby.
- 1:16[SPEAKER_01]: We'll turn our attention to our second half goals for the Guardians.
- 1:19[SPEAKER_01]: We got it all for it right here.
- 1:21[SPEAKER_01]: On Big Play.
- 1:22[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the show everybody I am Matt Fontana.
- 1:24[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, it's Ryan Tyler, so I have a long on the YouTube side of things for big play live.
- 1:29[SPEAKER_01]: Josh Krebs is going to be joining us on this episode coming up in a few minutes.
- 1:33[SPEAKER_01]: I do really want to talk to Josh today because here we are midway through July already.
- 1:39[SPEAKER_01]: Like, as a player where, yeah, where are you trying to be?
- 1:43[SPEAKER_01]: Cause, I mean, the rookie's report is not like 10 days away.
- 1:45[SPEAKER_01]: The 24th and Vector's case.
- 1:46[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're
- 2:00[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, I'm from Reese, I'm a Brownspan.
- 2:04[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, I take that back.
- 2:05[SPEAKER_01]: I don't apologize for that.
- 2:06[SPEAKER_02]: Don't be good by that.
- 2:07[SPEAKER_01]: They'll be good by the time he gets into it, man.
- 2:09[SPEAKER_01]: So that about me, I don't want to tell you.
- 2:12[SPEAKER_01]: My, he's, he's five.
- 2:14[SPEAKER_02]: He's a Detroit Lion's fan.
- 2:16[SPEAKER_02]: I'm blaming him.
- 2:17[SPEAKER_01]: He likes the blue and the lions are on our national game a lot.
- 2:21[SPEAKER_01]: So like when the Browns are done a one, I flip over the four o'clock in the lions are on.
- 2:24[SPEAKER_01]: He likes the blue.
- 2:25[SPEAKER_01]: He likes the color blue.
- 2:26[SPEAKER_01]: He loves Ohio's steak because I read, but he's a big lion's fan.
- 2:29[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll flip that over.
- 2:30[SPEAKER_01]: I'm taking him training camp at a couple of weeks.
- 2:32[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully you got tickets.
- 2:33[SPEAKER_01]: They were gone with the 20 minutes.
- 2:35[SPEAKER_01]: 20 minutes.
- 2:36[SPEAKER_01]: Take it's for God.
- 2:38[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll get into some Browns coming up with Josh when he joins us here in a little bit.
- 2:41[SPEAKER_01]: Here we are, man.
- 2:44[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know Rhine, I feel like I have the vibe of a lot of people.
- 2:48[SPEAKER_01]: The subron thing isn't even fun anymore.
- 2:51[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't mean that you don't want him to come back to Cleveland, but the
- 2:56[SPEAKER_01]: There's literally no fun left that they've they've run out every little drop out of this where it's not even interesting anymore.
- 3:04[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody just wants him to make his decision on where he's going to go has anything changed.
- 3:09[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
- 3:12[SPEAKER_01]: Blink Thomas looks really good in summer league.
- 3:13[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure that'll get that'll get brown to come on over and join the cat.
- 3:18[SPEAKER_01]: Like nothing is changed and at this point it's.
- 3:21[SPEAKER_01]: you know, what else is he waiting for these teams to do?
- 3:24[SPEAKER_01]: I did have this conversation with somebody the other day and they were talking about this song in dance.
- 3:33[SPEAKER_01]: I do, do, do dog and pony show.
- 3:36[SPEAKER_01]: It's a negative, of course, as a negative connotation to it.
- 3:39[SPEAKER_01]: I get Brown wants to make the right decision for him and he wants rich Paul to meet with everybody.
- 3:45[SPEAKER_01]: But here's my real thought on the calves.
- 3:47[SPEAKER_01]: He's he waiting for them to make a move.
- 3:51[SPEAKER_01]: Jared Allen.
- 3:52[SPEAKER_01]: And the calves are sitting there going, yeah, we'll make that go ahead and go ahead and sign this first.
- 3:57[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead and sign this, commit to us here.
- 4:01[SPEAKER_01]: And then maybe we'll discuss making a trade that you'd like to see done.
- 4:05[SPEAKER_01]: I think that might be the blanking match that we're adding right now where they're just staring at one another, seeing who's going to blink first.
- 4:12[SPEAKER_01]: I don't blame Kobe Altman for wanting to hold off on this and going, yeah, once
- 4:19[SPEAKER_01]: Because the other thing, I'm starting to see more of these trade things.
- 4:24[SPEAKER_01]: Like I like Greg Schwartz, you're right.
- 4:25[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's still with Bleacher Report.
- 4:27[SPEAKER_01]: He had this crazy one about the cabs getting shed home, run.
- 4:31[SPEAKER_02]: You want me to pull it up?
- 4:32[SPEAKER_02]: Are you interested?
- 4:33[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just just, just humor me for a second.
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- 5:08[SPEAKER_01]: So I've known Greg, we've had Greg on our show when we were daily back in the day.
- 5:15[SPEAKER_01]: And he writes for Bleacher Report.
- 5:17[SPEAKER_01]: And he had a trade just run in the trade machine, which I love the trade machine.
- 5:23[SPEAKER_01]: Don't get me wrong.
- 5:26[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh, did he, he might have gotten rid of it?
- 5:32[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he had it, and it was God.
- 5:35[SPEAKER_01]: It was the three team trade that somehow we ended up getting chat home, and somebody else, we ship out Evan, mobile, you ship out Dennis Schroeder, that was a spicy one, that was a spicy one, I'm not, I just, I thought it was a spicy trade.
- 5:53[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, is Lebron waiting for some spicy trade to happen.
- 5:57[SPEAKER_01]: I, I hope not the other one is hard.
- 6:02[SPEAKER_01]: Do they do harden dirty on this thing?
- 6:04[SPEAKER_01]: where they kept him hanging, you know, he declined the player option.
- 6:08[SPEAKER_01]: They thought, okay, I'll bring you back in a two year deal.
- 6:10[SPEAKER_01]: Give us some cap flexibility.
- 6:11[SPEAKER_01]: You make a little bit more money.
- 6:13[SPEAKER_01]: With that be dirty business to then flipping trade, James Hart, after he went through all this, try to help you out.
- 6:21[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, it's part of the business, I guess, right?
- 6:24[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think that's a little shady.
- 6:27[SPEAKER_01]: James Hart and Must.
- 6:29[SPEAKER_01]: must have, at this point it kind of seems like it is.
- 6:32[SPEAKER_01]: I think so too.
- 6:34[SPEAKER_01]: I think so too.
- 6:35[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where Brown's gonna have to sit there and understand and kind of make the determination what's the best roster around him.
- 6:43[SPEAKER_01]: Does that include James Harden?
- 6:45[SPEAKER_01]: I would imagine it's Evan Mobile and Dotton, which I think goes to the two players without a doubt, have gotta be on this roster.
- 6:50[SPEAKER_01]: This Jared Allen's smoke, I don't know, you know, I don't know.
- 6:55[SPEAKER_01]: And that's just, we're just sitting here
- 6:58[SPEAKER_01]: Rippin' our hair out, trying to wait to see what he's gonna do.
- 7:02[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the theories that I've heard.
- 7:03[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do you have to, do
- 7:19[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what that's got to do anything.
- 7:22[SPEAKER_01]: The other one, and we love fan dual here on this show in this network, that fan fest for fanatics.
- 7:28[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody thinks that that's where it's gonna be.
- 7:29[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's all the smoke I'm hearing.
- 7:31[SPEAKER_02]: Why?
- 7:32[SPEAKER_02]: He's doing it like a live podcast or something.
- 7:37[SPEAKER_01]: So what?
- 7:40[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
- 7:40[SPEAKER_01]: We're in the world of podcast.
- 7:42[SPEAKER_01]: We are living in the world of podcasts.
- 7:44[SPEAKER_01]: People are watching our podcast live right now.
- 7:46[SPEAKER_01]: I understand that.
- 7:49[SPEAKER_01]: Bront need that.
- 7:51[SPEAKER_01]: He needs those views in that money?
- 7:52[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
- 7:55[SPEAKER_01]: The other one, which I didn't want to give credence to this, but I guess it's worthy of bringing up.
- 8:00[SPEAKER_01]: He sees all that money getting thrown around a polymark and Cal, what does it callashi?
- 8:05[SPEAKER_01]: Callashi?
- 8:05[SPEAKER_01]: Callashi?
- 8:06[SPEAKER_01]: Get all that money.
- 8:07[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he gets a piece of that.
- 8:08[SPEAKER_01]: I'd imagine he doesn't.
- 8:09[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
- 8:10[SPEAKER_02]: That's illegal, apparently.
- 8:11[SPEAKER_02]: I would assume so.
- 8:13[SPEAKER_01]: Did you see what those dirty dirty dogs are doing now?
- 8:18[SPEAKER_01]: You can bet on flights being delayed at airports.
- 8:22[SPEAKER_01]: That's the second thing.
- 8:23[SPEAKER_01]: That is disgusting.
- 8:27[SPEAKER_01]: You're sitting there on a plane trying to get out of town to go on vacation with your family.
- 8:34[SPEAKER_01]: Some guy down there on the lowen dock.
- 8:37[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
- 8:38[SPEAKER_02]: I can make a quick buck.
- 8:43[SPEAKER_01]: Oops, that's the same in the world we live in, by the way.
- 8:46[SPEAKER_01]: We lost this lug, the plane's not full of fuel.
- 8:50[SPEAKER_01]: Hold off for a second.
- 8:51[SPEAKER_01]: Chiching is sad state of affairs.
- 8:55[SPEAKER_02]: Sad state of affairs.
- 8:56[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know what he's waiting for to be honest with you.
- 8:59[SPEAKER_01]: And again, at this point, people are starting to think golden state.
- 9:04[SPEAKER_01]: Now that's like we've entered the crazy era now.
- 9:08[SPEAKER_01]: where the cab seemed to have the lead, everybody said the cabs have the lead.
- 9:12[SPEAKER_01]: And now you're just bored and you're trying to poke holes back in this or trying to say, oh no, he's going here, he's figuring this out.
- 9:17[SPEAKER_01]: You know what's the big push now?
- 9:18[SPEAKER_01]: The 76ers, apparently Tyre's Max, he's trying to call him and get a hold of him and say, come join the 76ers.
- 9:25[SPEAKER_01]: Let me ask you this.
- 9:27[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about this question.
- 9:29[SPEAKER_01]: The longer this LeBron saga goes on, is that good, bad, or indifferent to the Cleveland Cavaliers.
- 9:40[SPEAKER_01]: was of course the answer, but good batter in different to the calves and where they stand with Ron.
- 9:44[SPEAKER_02]: Truthfully, I'm not sure that it matters because this is a different guy that LeBron is still deciding.
- 9:48[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's known his decision since he probably told the Lakers he wasn't played for them next season.
- 9:53[SPEAKER_01]: That being said, that's why I think it's bad for the calves.
- 9:57[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think the calves were the answer.
- 9:59[SPEAKER_01]: I believe that.
- 10:01[SPEAKER_01]: And he still doesn't made his decision yet.
- 10:03[SPEAKER_01]: That's not good.
- 10:04[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like that.
- 10:05[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want I don't want any other teams coming with a Hail Mary offer some Hail Mary trade that is going to get him interested in peak is inch.
- 10:12[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want that.
- 10:14[SPEAKER_01]: The calves are in the lead.
- 10:15[SPEAKER_01]: I want them to be in lead.
- 10:16[SPEAKER_01]: I want them to sign.
- 10:17[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want this dragon on any longer than it already is.
- 10:21[SPEAKER_01]: And you would think like.
- 10:24[SPEAKER_01]: You know, trying to undo the decisions so to speak.
- 10:27[SPEAKER_01]: You're kind of going down the same path.
- 10:29[SPEAKER_01]: You're building up all this momentum.
- 10:31[SPEAKER_01]: Are you really going to just crap on Cleveland again?
- 10:33[SPEAKER_01]: I hope not.
- 10:35[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.
- 10:37[SPEAKER_01]: But the other idea is what if he comes out, makes a grandiose so entrances about this on his podcast at that fan fest thing and he goes, not only am I going to go to the Cleveland Cavaliers, this is my final year of basketball.
- 10:48[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's going to happen because I don't think Bron wants to do that.
- 10:51[SPEAKER_01]: I think he'd rather just leave and not do the final year and the everybody gives you gifts and you get to enjoy it for the year.
- 10:59[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's just going to leave.
- 11:00[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not subscribing to that either, but we're on it.
- 11:03[SPEAKER_01]: We're all waiting.
- 11:07[SPEAKER_02]: if I'm not mistaken like I think this is the final week of all of this who plough it it please let it be so please think I guess the conversation turns to are you annoyed at it yes yeah I'm really sick of it I think everybody is I am but then again at the same time if he comes back we're all gonna be singing praises and jumping right but then it that's different and at the same time you're talking about the greatest player to play the game on
- 11:36[SPEAKER_01]: correct, but it's also I want the team to then be able to work because here's the other thing too.
- 11:41[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's the.
- 11:41[SPEAKER_01]: The calves have moves to mate like if he comes to Cleveland, there's other things that Kobe Altman's got to start doing, right?
- 11:48[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that was my that was kind of I asked Sam and Biko when he was on.
- 11:50[SPEAKER_02]: I said, if they don't get LeBron and even then it's still enough whole battle.
- 11:54[SPEAKER_02]: You got to make moves for your betch and all that stuff.
- 11:56[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, if you don't get him changes, I'm not a, I don't want to say a failure of an offseason.
- 12:03[SPEAKER_02]: but I can't say this team got better.
- 12:05[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you would say it's a failure of the off season because you didn't get him, but it's also that is not in Kobe Altman's power.
- 12:13[SPEAKER_02]: Like I look at failure comes down to is he operating under the guys of I haven't made any other moves because I need to make this first.
- 12:19[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, I think that he is operating that this has got to be the first time.
- 12:24[SPEAKER_01]: And as well, I mean, we talked about that with Bruce where if it stopped the calves from trading Evan mobly to get jail and brown, then you could look at him and look at that was a failure.
- 12:34[SPEAKER_01]: I'm under the assumption that they weren't going to do anything anyway.
- 12:38[SPEAKER_01]: And if you get LeBron with LeBron comes these other two trades on the periphery, you get Brian, you got to trade at Jared Allen, you get Brian, you might have to trade James Harden, that's where I'm operating with.
- 12:50[SPEAKER_01]: Kobe Auburn's got more information to go off of than I do, but it is still stopping you, it's holding you up from doing this.
- 12:59[SPEAKER_01]: There is more work to do.
- 13:02[SPEAKER_01]: Unless if the calves want to say, Hey, Brian, here's the veteran minimum that you're going to sign for, we're not going to do anything and we'll call you at the trade deadline after the new year.
- 13:11[SPEAKER_01]: I could see that happening.
- 13:13[SPEAKER_01]: And at that point, that gives the brunt a little bit more information and ammo on what moves need to be made and things like that.
- 13:19[SPEAKER_01]: But if he comes in, if he signs with the calves tomorrow night and with that comes make these other moves.
- 13:28[SPEAKER_01]: That's a tough job for Colby Altman.
- 13:30[SPEAKER_01]: He could have been working on that last week.
- 13:32[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think he told?
- 13:35[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's told many.
- 13:37[SPEAKER_01]: I do believe I don't think he's told anybody.
- 13:38[SPEAKER_01]: I do think he knows where he's gonna go.
- 13:40[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's told anybody.
- 13:42[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, well, I would have very much assumed rich knows.
- 13:49[SPEAKER_01]: But I, I don't know, what do you think?
- 13:50[SPEAKER_01]: I think he knows he just doesn't set it.
- 13:52[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we had scooped beyond.
- 13:54[SPEAKER_01]: I did see that.
- 13:54[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a lot of good stuff.
- 13:55[SPEAKER_02]: He said some interesting stuff.
- 13:56[SPEAKER_02]: He said LeBron comes here.
- 13:58[SPEAKER_02]: He's under the guys.
- 13:59[SPEAKER_02]: He's heard that the next GM is going to be Mike Gansy.
- 14:03[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean?
- 14:05[SPEAKER_02]: I, that's what he said.
- 14:07[SPEAKER_01]: Mike Gansy isn't Philly.
- 14:08[SPEAKER_01]: Er, who's the all weems?
- 14:09[SPEAKER_02]: Brand of weems.
- 14:10[SPEAKER_02]: Brand of weems.
- 14:11[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know who else has been hanging around the building lately?
- 14:14[SPEAKER_01]: You know, also over there?
- 14:16[SPEAKER_01]: David Griffin's back in town.
- 14:19[SPEAKER_01]: Who's the other spot that wants David Griffin?
- 14:22[SPEAKER_01]: 76ers, Mike Anzi, welcome to it.
- 14:26[SPEAKER_01]: And I think LeBron and David Griffin, I would assume have a great relationship.
- 14:32[SPEAKER_01]: How could he not?
- 14:33[SPEAKER_01]: He put that team together to go win a championship.
- 14:36[SPEAKER_01]: Kobe Altman is done a phenomenal job, but I was so pissed when David Griffin left.
- 14:44[SPEAKER_01]: because that's how good I thought he was.
- 14:46[SPEAKER_01]: And now I think I think it didn't listen, it was never gonna go good in New Orleans.
- 14:50[SPEAKER_01]: God himself cannot fix the New Orleans Pelicans, man.
- 14:54[SPEAKER_01]: That is a dog with flees franchise.
- 14:56[SPEAKER_01]: That they are gonna be destitute forever.
- 15:00[SPEAKER_01]: Ship them up.
- 15:02[SPEAKER_01]: to Canada.
- 15:02[SPEAKER_01]: Some of them to Mexico do something.
- 15:04[SPEAKER_01]: You want to international the game?
- 15:06[SPEAKER_01]: The first team that needs to be on that relocation number, you're getting Seattle back.
- 15:11[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
- 15:11[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to put that team in Vegas.
- 15:13[SPEAKER_01]: After that, they're going to start thinking, okay, 32, that's a nice round number.
- 15:18[SPEAKER_01]: We don't need to go any higher than that.
- 15:20[SPEAKER_01]: But Mexico City would love a team or another team in Canada with a
- 15:25[SPEAKER_01]: What about the London Hornets you never know where it goes you move the New Orleans on to those have got to be number one on the list of teams to relocate because they suck and they're terrible So that's what happens with David Gilbert or David Gilbert.
- 15:39[SPEAKER_01]: They've shot it to David Gilbert by the way Of these sports commission David Griffin
- 15:46[SPEAKER_01]: hanging around, maybe coming back to the cabs.
- 15:48[SPEAKER_01]: I think that helps things with LeBron coming back.
- 15:50[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Josh gonna come in and we'll talk to him a little bit.
- 15:52[SPEAKER_01]: But I do want to run through some things with the Browns.
- 15:54[SPEAKER_01]: First off, Jared Versus with some comments.
- 15:58[SPEAKER_01]: He was on good morning football.
- 16:00[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, I guess this is going away.
- 16:01[SPEAKER_01]: Did you see that?
- 16:02[SPEAKER_01]: I did see that.
- 16:04[SPEAKER_01]: But he was on good morning football and he was asked about the quarterback battle between the Sean Watson and shit or Sanders and said quote These are two great quarterbacks so far.
- 16:13[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen two elite quarterbacks battling it out.
- 16:17[SPEAKER_02]: I respect it, but come on come on
- 16:19[SPEAKER_01]: He's got his guys back.
- 16:20[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what to tell you.
- 16:22[SPEAKER_02]: Mind you, he's also coming off of having or watching massive deep out of these Stafford.
- 16:27[SPEAKER_02]: It's a little different.
- 16:27[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little different.
- 16:29[SPEAKER_01]: They're pumping these guys up, which I get.
- 16:31[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll talk about this with Josh of like just what that first couple of weeks of training camp really looks like.
- 16:38[SPEAKER_01]: And I know that people are gonna be super interested in who takes the first team reps. You know where I stand, I don't care.
- 16:47[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of reporters out there I respect.
- 16:49[SPEAKER_01]: I covered the team for a long time.
- 16:51[SPEAKER_01]: I was in Brey every day.
- 16:52[SPEAKER_01]: I miss it, but I do not for the life of me care who's taking first team reps in this group versus that group.
- 16:58[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't.
- 17:00[SPEAKER_01]: But Make no mistake
- 17:04[SPEAKER_01]: Todd Monkins got a leader in the clubhouse and he's going to have one when training camps starts.
- 17:09[SPEAKER_01]: There is no way that that is not an unequivocal fact that he will have one out in front of the other.
- 17:16[SPEAKER_01]: Now how he wants to divide that up or what his rationale behind it is, I don't know.
- 17:21[SPEAKER_01]: you know where I stand.
- 17:22[SPEAKER_01]: I want Shidorah Sanders to start.
- 17:25[SPEAKER_01]: If it was up to me and my job wasn't on the line, I'd start Shidorah.
- 17:28[SPEAKER_01]: I'd rather see what he has.
- 17:30[SPEAKER_01]: And he's got a more of a potential to be your long-term answer.
- 17:33[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's going to happen.
- 17:35[SPEAKER_01]: Permira, to Sean Watson's to say for answer.
- 17:40[SPEAKER_01]: And I know, I know.
- 17:44[SPEAKER_01]: But Ryan, if your job was on the line, okay?
- 17:47[SPEAKER_02]: I'm still starting Shoulder, okay?
- 17:48[SPEAKER_01]: All right, good.
- 17:49[SPEAKER_02]: I, I, I don't understand what, what, so why is the Sean?
- 17:53[SPEAKER_02]: Who hasn't played football in years?
- 17:56[SPEAKER_01]: Well, for even longer.
- 17:58[SPEAKER_02]: That's a safe pick.
- 17:58[SPEAKER_02]: Why, why, why is he the safe pick?
- 18:00[SPEAKER_02]: Just because it's older.
- 18:00[SPEAKER_01]: He's played more.
- 18:01[SPEAKER_01]: He's played more.
- 18:03[SPEAKER_01]: He has done it.
- 18:04[SPEAKER_01]: It was a long, long time ago, but he's done it.
- 18:06[SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea if a store can do it.
- 18:09[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we kind of saw it.
- 18:11[SPEAKER_01]: Do you buy the Watson's been injured and never been fully healthy?
- 18:16[SPEAKER_01]: That's the excuse to look on your face.
- 18:18[SPEAKER_01]: Turn that camera on for you.
- 18:19[SPEAKER_01]: Look at that.
- 18:20[SPEAKER_01]: Look on his face, which is odd.
- 18:21[SPEAKER_02]: He's not in every opportunity.
- 18:23[SPEAKER_02]: But he's been hurt.
- 18:25[SPEAKER_01]: Allegedly, I'm not.
- 18:26[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just playing devil's advocate over here.
- 18:30[SPEAKER_02]: He's been hurt.
- 18:30[SPEAKER_02]: It's what he's going to say.
- 18:32[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
- 18:32[SPEAKER_02]: He's healthy enough to be on the field when he was and he's stuck.
- 18:36[SPEAKER_02]: There's no about it.
- 18:37[SPEAKER_02]: There's no he's art about it.
- 18:38[SPEAKER_02]: He's art.
- 18:39[SPEAKER_02]: He's artistic with the worst quarterback in last three years.
- 18:42[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but then I saw something today that you know in the league history.
- 18:44[SPEAKER_01]: You want a piece of stat for today.
- 18:46[SPEAKER_01]: You ready for this?
- 18:47[SPEAKER_01]: Did you know have you seen this one today?
- 18:49[SPEAKER_02]: You haven't even said it's all right.
- 18:50[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 18:50[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you saw it.
- 18:52[SPEAKER_01]: in his career career passer rated to Sean Watson is a 98.8 career passer of the football.
- 19:02[SPEAKER_01]: That is the sixth best in football history.
- 19:08[SPEAKER_01]: You want to guess or do you want me to tell you the guys ahead of them?
- 19:11[SPEAKER_02]: I would like to guess.
- 19:12[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, guys.
- 19:12[SPEAKER_02]: Isn't there careers?
- 19:13[SPEAKER_01]: Career.
- 19:15[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I will tell you you should know all of these.
- 19:19[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like it's not like it's Johnny United.
- 19:22[SPEAKER_01]: So, God, a Graham is not on this list.
- 19:24[SPEAKER_01]: You've seen the majority of these guys play.
- 19:26[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Tom.
- 19:27[SPEAKER_01]: Tom Brady is one.
- 19:28[SPEAKER_01]: Peyton.
- 19:29[SPEAKER_01]: In no particular order.
- 19:30[SPEAKER_01]: He, okay, he is one.
- 19:32[SPEAKER_01]: Peyton Manning is another.
- 19:33[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron?
- 19:34[SPEAKER_01]: No, which is kind of crazy.
- 19:36[SPEAKER_01]: Little more?
- 19:37[SPEAKER_01]: No.
- 19:38[SPEAKER_01]: Pat?
- 19:39[SPEAKER_01]: No.
- 19:41[SPEAKER_01]: There's one other active player.
- 19:44[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, there's two other active players on this list.
- 19:47[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
- 19:48[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, well, I'll just go unactive.
- 19:50[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're going all the way back, right, to like, these guys, no, all these guys played in the 90s.
- 19:55[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, 90s and current.
- 19:58[SPEAKER_01]: Kurt Warner?
- 19:59[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, nice poll, good call.
- 20:01[SPEAKER_01]: Kurt Warner is one.
- 20:02[SPEAKER_01]: So again, the stat that we're doing, the trivia of the day here.
- 20:05[SPEAKER_01]: Just Sean Watson is the sixth best passerrating in league history.
- 20:12[SPEAKER_01]: No, I screwed this up, I'm screwing you.
- 20:13[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
- 20:14[SPEAKER_01]: Six best.
- 20:15[SPEAKER_01]: These are all the guys that he's ahead of.
- 20:18[SPEAKER_01]: Just as a list.
- 20:19[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's ahead of Brady.
- 20:20[SPEAKER_01]: He's ahead of Drew Breeze, Tom Brady, Steve Young, Peyton Manning, Josh Allen, Kurt Warner, Ben Roth, Spurgramat, Stafford, Joe Montana.
- 20:26[SPEAKER_01]: That's the, I was gonna say wait, six.
- 20:27[SPEAKER_01]: There's more than five on this list.
- 20:29[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever.
- 20:30[SPEAKER_01]: Six best.
- 20:30[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying career, career paths are rating.
- 20:33[SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm gonna look up the career paths are rating leaders.
- 20:35[SPEAKER_02]: I was gonna say Roger's has to be up there.
- 20:37[SPEAKER_01]: You're right, Malamar is one.
- 20:38[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron Rodgers is two.
- 20:40[SPEAKER_01]: Joe Barrow is three.
- 20:42[SPEAKER_01]: on that list, and this is pro football reference.
- 20:45[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's got a different one.
- 20:46[SPEAKER_01]: But you would hope that he could get back to that.
- 20:50[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that.
- 20:51[SPEAKER_01]: I know, I know, I know, I know, I know.
- 20:53[SPEAKER_01]: Lamar, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Burrow, Patty, Russ Wilson, then Deshawn Watson.
- 20:58[SPEAKER_01]: That's the career.
- 20:59[SPEAKER_01]: That's the all time leader in passer rating in football history.
- 21:07[SPEAKER_01]: Do you really just lose it all?
- 21:08[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what are you getting?
- 21:09[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, all right.
- 21:11[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
- 21:12[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
- 21:13[SPEAKER_01]: Start should or I'm for it.
- 21:15[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not against it, I'm all for it.
- 21:17[SPEAKER_01]: Do it.
- 21:19[SPEAKER_02]: But at this point, you think regardless, if Shidorah Sanders, Todd Munkin wants him to start, he's still gonna start to shine.
- 21:28[SPEAKER_02]: It's a little less pressure if to shine.
- 21:30[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, in three games.
- 21:31[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, I believe it.
- 21:32[SPEAKER_02]: You can just wipe it as clear as Brownstone, but then it kind of goes back to what you're starting yourself in a O and three, one and two whole.
- 21:38[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you're also the psyche of Shidorah, right?
- 21:42[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think Watson could handle this better.
- 21:44[SPEAKER_01]: Now there's also the idea that not,
- 21:47[SPEAKER_01]: I mean you're right it could turn in the other way of like work your ass off and overtake him like we really want you to win this job go out there and win it
- 21:55[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I gotta tell you man, and we're here again because we don't have one.
- 22:00[SPEAKER_01]: And I get so angry about the browns because I love the browns, I'm gonna be a fan forever, and I want them to be good.
- 22:08[SPEAKER_01]: More than anything, I am just completely and utterly sick of having quarterback battles.
- 22:15[SPEAKER_01]: I'm done with it!
- 22:18[SPEAKER_01]: Some of my happiest years was not just because we had Baker Bayfields because I knew I could start camp and that guy is gonna start a quarterback for me.
- 22:27[SPEAKER_01]: I hate this crap.
- 22:28[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just gonna wait one more year, man.
- 22:30[SPEAKER_01]: God, Lee, I hope so.
- 22:32[SPEAKER_01]: Like, even at this point where I am so desperate, you don't need to find me Lamar, you don't need to find me Josh Allen.
- 22:41[SPEAKER_01]: I'll take a Jordan love, man.
- 22:45[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just take somebody that I know I can have start for 10 years because that's how sick of this I am.
- 22:54[SPEAKER_02]: But here's the thing too, what you want on those guys, you've got a draft.
- 22:57[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
- 22:58[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with you.
- 22:59[SPEAKER_01]: Instead of taking second round and third round, dart throw.
- 23:03[SPEAKER_01]: There is no part of this coming up draft next year in this season.
- 23:09[SPEAKER_01]: that is going to get me off, that the browns are going to use everything they can to move up as far as they can to take a quarterback.
- 23:17[SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be a lot of them to take.
- 23:19[SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be some, this happens every year that a team within established quarterback, they get hurt or their team just sucks and they're sitting there like the sixth pick and they don't really need that pick there you go.
- 23:34[SPEAKER_01]: There you go, and you load up all of it, man.
- 23:39[SPEAKER_01]: Every pick you got to get as far up as you can.
- 23:43[SPEAKER_02]: There's actually, here's the thing too, so there's gonna be a disgusting amount of teams that potentially need a quarterback.
- 23:48[SPEAKER_02]: Because the ones right off the bat, the jets, the cardinals, jets, cardinals, browns,
- 23:57[SPEAKER_02]: Steelers and then you're talking to the steelers and then who knows right because The Texans are they gonna extend C. Just proud if he has a bad year again.
- 24:04[SPEAKER_02]: He's playing us with your option Literally say I'm exactly dolphins might need one.
- 24:07[SPEAKER_02]: I know they just sign Malik Willis, but in the same Panthers Are they really gonna extend Bryce Young?
- 24:12[SPEAKER_02]: Probably not.
- 24:13[SPEAKER_02]: I hope your option.
- 24:13[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I see that's six teams right there.
- 24:16[SPEAKER_02]: That's six teams right there That are possibly gonna be the market for first round quarterback
- 24:20[SPEAKER_01]: NFC commanders don't need one cowboys don't need one giant stony when the eagles don't need one bears no packers No Viking the Eagles.
- 24:28[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not rolling out the Eagles, but I'll take jail in her.
- 24:31[SPEAKER_01]: I'll take thanks Lions don't panthers maybe bucket near possible maybe falcons Probably
- 24:43[SPEAKER_01]: Saints, no, Seahawks, no, Rams, no, we, I've said, that's in bad.
- 24:49[SPEAKER_01]: He's there, but Ty Simpson, 49ers, no cardinals, yes.
- 24:54[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, you're looking at eight, eight, for five, maybe in the first year, in the upper half there.
- 25:03[SPEAKER_01]: where we're at.
- 25:04[SPEAKER_01]: And the thing is, you know, and we'll get to this two of the top 10 rankings are coming out from Jeremy Fowler.
- 25:09[SPEAKER_01]: And in order everybody's all upset about the NFL top 100, because that list is kind of a joke.
- 25:12[SPEAKER_01]: Like Lamar is down at like 70.
- 25:14[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's really mad about that.
- 25:15[SPEAKER_01]: That list kind of joke.
- 25:17[SPEAKER_01]: I actually hold Jeremy's list.
- 25:20[SPEAKER_01]: in very high regard because it is executives, media members, I think this is the real true barometer of how good you are at your position.
- 25:31[SPEAKER_01]: Now, they don't do overall, which I actually don't really care.
- 25:34[SPEAKER_01]: I want to know today, who's the best receiver in football, the best receiver in football.
- 25:40[SPEAKER_01]: It's Jamar Chase.
- 25:41[SPEAKER_01]: Number two, Justin Jefferson, which I have to take
- 25:50[SPEAKER_02]: of Jamar 1, Justin Jefferson 2, but if we're so quick to rain like Josh Allen above Patrick Mahomes and I guess Matt Safer's not the right example, but like why are we still kind of putting Jamar in Chase above or like I guess more so Justin Jefferson above like Jackson's with the Jacobo.
- 26:09[SPEAKER_02]: And here we go.
- 26:09[SPEAKER_02]: Here we go.
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- 26:29[SPEAKER_01]: like if you were drafting receivers and you had the first overall pick, they feel like you would go to march a silver just in jail.
- 26:35[SPEAKER_01]: Now again, you'd be happy with any of those guys.
- 26:37[SPEAKER_01]: You'd love to have Jackson Smith and Jigba, but it's just beauties in the eye of the beholder.
- 26:41[SPEAKER_02]: But it's like you have your top four, top five quarterbacks that are interchangeable.
- 26:48[SPEAKER_01]: It could cause you're basing off the last season, but it seems like it's always jamar and just in Jefferson wanted to every world no matter what because I think though I truly I believe that I think those two guys are on a Separate tier than anybody else.
- 27:00[SPEAKER_01]: Jackson's been the jigma Mike it close he has another year like he did this year.
- 27:03[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna be up there.
- 27:05[SPEAKER_01]: Puka
- 27:07[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's kind of hard.
- 27:08[SPEAKER_01]: He's got the injuries, got through off the field stuff, but he also plays in this amazing system that is very friendly to him.
- 27:14[SPEAKER_01]: Then like, I'm gonna rock same brown as that five.
- 27:16[SPEAKER_01]: They're littered with weapons, right?
- 27:19[SPEAKER_01]: Seedy Lamb is six.
- 27:20[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if Seedy Lamb's the best receiver on his own team.
- 27:23[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
- 27:25[SPEAKER_01]: Like, again, by the way, Pickins is seven.
- 27:28[SPEAKER_01]: That's C-D-6, Pickins is seven.
- 27:30[SPEAKER_01]: You're right there.
- 27:31[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, the ones that have come out this last week, Ellen Jenkins got honorable mention for offensive line for the Browns, which is great.
- 27:39[SPEAKER_01]: And then Carson's sweatshins your three-at-line backer with a Luke Keakley combo.
- 27:46[SPEAKER_01]: Or comp, I should say.
- 27:47[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty good.
- 27:49[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get into more specific and Josh here.
- 27:51[SPEAKER_01]: This is the thing that I want to say.
- 27:53[SPEAKER_01]: You look at these lists.
- 27:54[SPEAKER_01]: Take a mall in.
- 27:56[SPEAKER_01]: You know what these lists show me?
- 27:59[SPEAKER_01]: The best teams in football.
- 28:01[SPEAKER_01]: when you see the rams, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing,
- 28:29[SPEAKER_01]: When Baker was there, Nick Chubb was there, Betonio was there.
- 28:33[SPEAKER_01]: Teller was there.
- 28:34[SPEAKER_01]: Conklin was there.
- 28:37[SPEAKER_01]: Certainly miles was there.
- 28:39[SPEAKER_01]: Denzel's always been there.
- 28:40[SPEAKER_01]: Like that is when things were humming.
- 28:42[SPEAKER_01]: And I do think the ship is turning.
- 28:44[SPEAKER_01]: I know the ship is turning, where you could have conversations about Harold Fanon.
- 28:49[SPEAKER_01]: If Spencer Fano is what we think he can be.
- 28:52[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, on that detackle, you know, Mason Graham, you talk about the linebackers.
- 28:55[SPEAKER_01]: You talk about Tyson Campbell, who got honorable mentioned votes for that thing.
- 28:59[SPEAKER_01]: That is where you got to turn this thing.
- 29:02[SPEAKER_01]: But it's all going to come back to find in the quarterback and doing everything to can to go find it next year.
- 29:06[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, that's where we're at.
- 29:08[SPEAKER_01]: And the, and the thing is training camp is always that unbridled optimism.
- 29:15[SPEAKER_01]: We all start training camp in Berea and back in the day when it was a free for all and I woke my brothers up at 515 in the morning to get in the car and drive to Berea and I legally parked in somebody's front yard and through a $10 bill on the front windshield and said, please don't call the cops.
- 29:30[SPEAKER_01]: we're going to walk up front street.
- 29:32[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to stand in line for everybody.
- 29:34[SPEAKER_01]: My brother almost got pushed over as a as a 15 year old by some old, literally, grown man sprinting to the locker room sale.
- 29:42[SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember the, oh, you're probably selling.
- 29:44[SPEAKER_01]: They used to do a locker room sale and one training camp every year and they put this big tent up.
- 29:49[SPEAKER_01]: and you walk in there and it was like practice jerseys and like pads and footballs and a lot of room sale.
- 29:56[SPEAKER_01]: When guys leave the team at the end of the year, they take anything else left in their locker which find their way to this locker room sale.
- 30:03[SPEAKER_01]: This grown man, almost bolder over my 15 year old brother to go get a pair of practice pants from Ryan Pompering on, you jerk.
- 30:13[SPEAKER_01]: But we gotta ask Josh about the locker room sale.
- 30:16[SPEAKER_01]: I gotta ask him about that coming up.
- 30:19[SPEAKER_01]: You know that that's training camp.
- 30:21[SPEAKER_01]: The optimism is going to be there and it's going to start picking up here in a couple of weeks when we start getting back to camp.
- 30:26[SPEAKER_01]: Josh is here.
- 30:26[SPEAKER_01]: I want to run through this list with him and talk about where we're at in training camp getting ready to go for the Browns.
- 30:31[SPEAKER_02]: We'll mix it in a little brown.
- 30:32[SPEAKER_01]: We got to talk some guards to hey British open picks to us.
- 30:36[SPEAKER_02]: Starts tomorrow.
- 30:37[SPEAKER_02]: You got to wake up at 3 a.m.
- 30:38[SPEAKER_01]: I will not.
- 30:40[SPEAKER_01]: No, I will not wake as the beauty of the British open, man.
- 30:43[SPEAKER_01]: Three a.m. we'll be watching some golf folks.
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- 32:48[SPEAKER_01]: Josh, great to see you.
- 32:49[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I have to derail everything that I was going to talk to you about because I went down memory lane about the locker room sale.
- 32:56[SPEAKER_01]: That I used I remember one time I took my brothers.
- 32:59[SPEAKER_01]: This was years ago, so I don't even know if they do it anymore But like tell everybody what like when you were a player at the end of the year Even if you knew you were coming back you had a contract Would you just like leave stuff in your locker you didn't want?
- 33:11[SPEAKER_01]: I remember on clean out they they just have boxes on like dolly's and like anything you didn't want You just threw it in there right in and show up at the locker room sale next spring right exactly For me it was different you know until
- 33:25[SPEAKER_00]: I knew that it was a possibility that my contract wouldn't get, you know, being negotiated.
- 33:31[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
- 33:31[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 33:32[SPEAKER_00]: But if I, if I'm under contract for three or five years, hey, I might be, I might come back after my vacation.
- 33:37[SPEAKER_01]: You, cause you'd work out in the facility in the off season, right?
- 33:40[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 33:40[SPEAKER_01]: So you want some stuff there?
- 33:42[SPEAKER_00]: not just that we go use the facilities high to you know steam room we use it like a jump you know we come in there and use it as our you know as we need to but if if if it's a question of if we're going to be there the next year no you you got your stuff all right you got all your because it's going to get shipped to your location any okay okay all right they box your stuff up and ship it
- 34:05[SPEAKER_01]: with their guys that were just like angry and they just leave everything because they were just upset on how it went and like didn't even take anything with them like a coach is more than okay coaches more in players.
- 34:15[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah because when players do it, you know, the gear is always making acts of training gear.
- 34:22[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's not really because it's like, if you're going through something, I know you're going through it because I'm going, I'm probably going to go through it.
- 34:29[SPEAKER_00]: So we, it's a, between players, it's a buddy buddy.
- 34:32[SPEAKER_00]: So coaches is a little more undefined and, you know, everybody, I might, you know, ship my stuff.
- 34:41[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need none of that stuff.
- 34:42[SPEAKER_01]: What was your favorite stuff that you got?
- 34:44[SPEAKER_01]: Was there something that you like every year?
- 34:46[SPEAKER_01]: Cause I don't know, I just, I love the stuff with you.
- 34:49[SPEAKER_01]: So I love talking, like, when you sit down for the season, do you tell the equipment guys?
- 34:53[SPEAKER_01]: This is what I like, this is what I, and we all see the videos now that I'm doing the helmet fittings and stuff.
- 34:58[SPEAKER_01]: Walk everybody through like what would be in your locker and what you would request from the equipment guys.
- 35:04[SPEAKER_00]: Right now, generally, it's a done one time.
- 35:07[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 35:07[SPEAKER_00]: because if you like the way things fit and you like the way your gear is, you don't want it ever to change.
- 35:13[SPEAKER_00]: So when Jared verse, for instance, he came in there, if he has no issues, he doesn't need to go in there again, while he's a cleave and brown.
- 35:20[SPEAKER_00]: Everything will be done to his liking throughout the year and throughout his career here.
- 35:25[SPEAKER_00]: So everything was done always, Brad in a quit man room, he was our last time.
- 35:29[SPEAKER_00]: He's since retired.
- 35:31[SPEAKER_01]: Brad was a man.
- 35:32[SPEAKER_01]: If you had a behind the scenes, he was a real user man.
- 35:34[SPEAKER_00]: And all his staff, they were all just very so professional because throughout games, you know, my face, you know, face, my face mask problems.
- 35:43[SPEAKER_00]: I need my visor out because of weather or, you know, I couldn't breathe.
- 35:46[SPEAKER_00]: I need my inhaler.
- 35:47[SPEAKER_00]: I need to take this off or through injury.
- 35:50[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so
- 35:51[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the the Quimnestab are Johnny on the spot.
- 35:54[SPEAKER_00]: You know, in every situation whether showed pass anything, but I honestly love my probow gear.
- 36:01[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
- 36:02[SPEAKER_00]: More than anything because I still look at.
- 36:04[SPEAKER_00]: I still have the loops.
- 36:05[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
- 36:06[SPEAKER_00]: I have the loops from all my teams that I play with.
- 36:08[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty cool.
- 36:09[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty awesome.
- 36:10[SPEAKER_00]: I have so much browns throughout the years.
- 36:14[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, my family wears it by, you know, my son wears it to his team.
- 36:19[SPEAKER_00]: So he's in pictures now with my cat, my NFL.
- 36:23[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's awesome.
- 36:24[SPEAKER_00]: You have on my Houston.
- 36:24[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 36:25[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 36:25[SPEAKER_00]: The Akron Beacon Journal actually, you know, because it was, you know, that's crib sun.
- 36:30[SPEAKER_00]: Has him in the picture wearing my, my school cat.
- 36:33[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
- 36:34[SPEAKER_00]: In a fellow logo, Browns logo on it.
- 36:36[SPEAKER_00]: So we love the gear that, you know, we had, we keep it for years.
- 36:40[SPEAKER_00]: Like I hadn't worn my promo, please.
- 36:42[SPEAKER_00]: I worn one time because those weren't the Browns.
- 36:47[SPEAKER_00]: So I've never worn again in my loop with my practice jersey that I never wore after that.
- 36:53[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I just look at picking up every now and then look at it like, yeah, there you go.
- 36:57[SPEAKER_00]: So plenty of time.
- 36:57[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was a pro bowl in that uniform.
- 37:00[SPEAKER_01]: love it.
- 37:00[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
- 37:01[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking as training camps coming up as tickets one on sale.
- 37:04[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and we'll talk more about training camp when it comes up.
- 37:07[SPEAKER_01]: But I know Josh, the players love having the fans out there brings the juice, it brings an energy, you know, now they do so many of these joint practices, which I don't know, and they, that was in huge back when you were playing, right?
- 37:18[SPEAKER_00]: that with the brown.
- 37:19[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.
- 37:20[SPEAKER_00]: Other teams did it.
- 37:21[SPEAKER_00]: We would see other teams do it all the time.
- 37:23[SPEAKER_00]: Lights will break out.
- 37:24[SPEAKER_00]: Suffice break out and aren't getting up with each other.
- 37:27[SPEAKER_01]: These teams go to the joint practices and the coaches are like, don't fight and it's like, okay, like, there's a guarantee without a doubt it's going to happen.
- 37:36[SPEAKER_00]: So let me say this.
- 37:37[SPEAKER_00]: It's a guarantee that fights will happen every year on every training camp on every team.
- 37:43[SPEAKER_00]: But it's almost a double guarantee that a fight will happen between you and another team.
- 37:48[SPEAKER_00]: Just the mostly between the Y receive is in a DBs.
- 37:51[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's all in the trenches between the O'Lan and D-Lan, but there's always the fight.
- 37:55[SPEAKER_00]: And it's almost the right.
- 37:56[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
- 37:57[SPEAKER_00]: We always say this every training camp in any right until it's a fight.
- 38:01[SPEAKER_00]: Um, like right back down and it's just testosterone.
- 38:04[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 38:05[SPEAKER_00]: You know, going to get to say guys over and over, you know, uh, you know, you probably tackle me on the route.
- 38:10[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a receiver and then in a co-set stay up and you tackle me.
- 38:14[SPEAKER_00]: I can come on, man.
- 38:15[SPEAKER_00]: Co-sets that, you know, we're fighting for all of five to seconds.
- 38:19[SPEAKER_00]: And then we'll be shaking hands and talking about each other in jester at lunch.
- 38:23[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 38:23[SPEAKER_00]: That's how it works.
- 38:24[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I can't remember the coach was he goes out.
- 38:26[SPEAKER_01]: I want intensity, but not injury.
- 38:28[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and he said in the same thing, they want to be intense with it, but they don't want guys to be out there getting hurt, keep up.
- 38:34[SPEAKER_01]: Don't be breakin' hands on helmets, stuff like that, but it's a guarantee to happen.
- 38:38[SPEAKER_01]: Josh, we're talking about this list from Jeremy Father, because the NFL Top 100, which you have been on before, and that one, sometimes there's bias.
- 38:46[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's upset Lamar Jackson is 70, right?
- 38:49[SPEAKER_01]: They're like Lamar Jackson's not the 70th best player in the NFL.
- 38:52[SPEAKER_01]: But I look at this list from Jeremy Fowler that's been coming out every day where he interviews execs and media people and he does the top 10 in every position.
- 38:59[SPEAKER_01]: Browns, not as well represented as the years past, but Elton Jenkins was on a mentioned verse was there Carson Swesinger third for off-ball linebackers with a Luke Keith Keakley comp.
- 39:11[SPEAKER_01]: Josh, does that matter to players about this?
- 39:13[SPEAKER_01]: I know you probably say probals all probate, but as a player, do you guys take respect in some of these lists when they get put out?
- 39:20[SPEAKER_00]: uh... it's just uh... kind of like a pat on the back come you don't get any money you know that you get some recognition that you made up you were uh... eighty seven all right you get the you know you see your little clips on your little highlights and it's gone i mean i decided i'm not right
- 39:36[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, provol's matter is like a thing in people's contracts now, I mean, was in my personal accolades, you know, that matter, but those don't, you know, those are just recognition, fan recognition.
- 39:48[SPEAKER_00]: A lot, even provol's fan recognition, you know, where they want to see, you know, they know the fans want to see these guys, you know, so they haven't there, but.
- 39:57[SPEAKER_00]: Statistically, you know, that matters when you make a pro bowl and you're just that good.
- 40:03[SPEAKER_00]: However, it's a popularity contest when we talk about, you know, the one it airs on TV, it's a program.
- 40:09[SPEAKER_00]: So when you say Lamar, you know, isn't high enough, that's just because his stock isn't that high.
- 40:16[SPEAKER_00]: He's still one of the most,
- 40:19[SPEAKER_00]: Valleable assets a team could have.
- 40:23[SPEAKER_00]: And when you look at a true top 100, it's level of difficulty that you have to prepare for a player.
- 40:31[SPEAKER_00]: That's how valuable a player is.
- 40:33[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.
- 40:34[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 40:35[SPEAKER_00]: Difficulty.
- 40:35[SPEAKER_00]: not how they perform when you play them.
- 40:38[SPEAKER_00]: It's how much effort did you have to put in to play him.
- 40:41[SPEAKER_00]: Did you have to have a guy who was fast to play quarterback and then bring in another guy who was actually a quarterback to throw the ball when it was thrown, you know, ball time, you know, they're actually throw pass because we had to do that.
- 40:52[SPEAKER_00]: We had to use two different quarterbacks.
- 40:54[SPEAKER_00]: to play Lamar Jackson to simulate his passing and to simulate his running.
- 40:59[SPEAKER_00]: And then do all the trickery level of difficulty.
- 41:03[SPEAKER_00]: Again, the shout out same the shout out to me.
- 41:06[SPEAKER_00]: They brought in Wildcat guys, teams would always say it.
- 41:08[SPEAKER_00]: They had to have the, you know, when you talk about the returns and he got the month kick it.
- 41:13[SPEAKER_00]: Level of difficulty to prepare for an athlete.
- 41:16[SPEAKER_01]: When you can change the game that way, when you change how a team has got to approach a game, because you always hear Josh Coaches say, well, we're going to impose our will or we're going to play our game.
- 41:24[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, that's great.
- 41:25[SPEAKER_01]: It changes when you have these elite special guys, every offensive line went into every game against the Browns and said, we can't let Miles Garrett beat us.
- 41:35[SPEAKER_01]: And what did he do more often than not?
- 41:36[SPEAKER_01]: He beats you and he found ways to get it done.
- 41:39[SPEAKER_01]: And I think about that with this with these rankings, right?
- 41:42[SPEAKER_01]: Cause Jared verse for past rushes was just outside the top 10.
- 41:46[SPEAKER_01]: Elton Jenkins on the offensive line, which I thought was a great accolade for him was honorable mention.
- 41:51[SPEAKER_01]: But the highest one thus far, because Denzel was six fry and I think six or seven for corners for Denzel.
- 41:57[SPEAKER_01]: Some are around there.
- 41:58[SPEAKER_01]: Carson's swest and draw the way up at three, Josh.
- 42:01[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where...
- 42:02[SPEAKER_01]: the explosion that he had just even as a rookie, the fact that he got pumped by somebody in the league to loop deeply.
- 42:12[SPEAKER_01]: I think that says a lot about this young man.
- 42:13[SPEAKER_01]: I'm super excited to see your two friends.
- 42:15[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, okay, let's just see who's doing these are football people.
- 42:19[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, we look at these stats that come out these top 100, you know, somebody stands by
- 42:26[SPEAKER_00]: and can argue every single pick, not to say that you will agree, but they can argue articulately every single pick, right?
- 42:35[SPEAKER_00]: And I can argue articulately when it comes to Swesinger and his sideline and sideline, like the guy before him, J.O.K., the shoes that he had to feel that he walked in gracefully, just think of we had both how powerful our defense would be.
- 42:55[SPEAKER_00]: But Swesinger is a dark horse, horse, deep into play at a year.
- 43:01[SPEAKER_00]: He already was a rookie deep into play at a year.
- 43:04[SPEAKER_00]: We know it's silent on the sideline.
- 43:07[SPEAKER_00]: So he deserved that.
- 43:09[SPEAKER_00]: But there's other guys who can argue for other guys and talented guys just straight off of football knowledge.
- 43:16[SPEAKER_00]: and people try to throw, you know, shade in there, you know, as it relates to Lamar being 70.
- 43:22[SPEAKER_00]: If you know, I'm somebody can argue that.
- 43:25[SPEAKER_00]: However, as so many people that can argue the latter, him needing to be, I don't care what, what is his stats, where he's still this valuable, which he
- 43:36[SPEAKER_01]: So last year for Swesinger, there were three players in the league last year that had the following stats, two sacks, two interceptions and ten tackles for a loss.
- 43:46[SPEAKER_01]: Carson Swesinger, TJ Watt, and a lot to lay to for the Indianapolis Colts.
- 43:51[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
- 43:52[SPEAKER_01]: And he's the first rookie to do that since Shaq Leonard did it back in 2018.
- 43:56[SPEAKER_01]: So a pretty impressive list for him to be on.
- 43:59[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's the, that's the thing, Josh, as we get ready to go for train camp.
- 44:02[SPEAKER_01]: Like Ryan and our talking about this.
- 44:05[SPEAKER_01]: that's your unbridled optimism.
- 44:06[SPEAKER_01]: We're always going to be optimistic when it comes to training camp.
- 44:09[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we do.
- 44:10[SPEAKER_01]: This quarterback battle, which we'll see, and I do want to get your thoughts on this too, because Jared versus on good morning football, and he talked about the training camp battle.
- 44:18[SPEAKER_01]: And he said, I feel like I'm watching two elite quarterbacks battling it out.
- 44:22[SPEAKER_01]: Now, we can Joe can be like, okay, elite, what are you watching, and that kind of stuff.
- 44:26[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's trying to get his guys back here.
- 44:28[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, training camp, I'm almost, I almost,
- 44:31[SPEAKER_01]: I went off of the stress.
- 44:32[SPEAKER_01]: I hate quarterback battles.
- 44:34[SPEAKER_01]: I hate it because then it takes away from me getting excited Overall about this team and I just would love to have that consistency I don't need Lamar Jackson.
- 44:43[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need Josh Allen, but it would just be so nice to have a guy that you know for six years.
- 44:48[SPEAKER_01]: He's your guy.
- 44:49[SPEAKER_01]: He's your starter
- 44:50[SPEAKER_01]: There's no question by when get our work in training camp because like, you know, I'm that nerd, I want to talk offensive line.
- 44:56[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see what the rookies have with conception and Denzel Boston like that's why I'm on a focus to be in all of it is just unfortunately going to turn to the quarterbacks because we got to get that decided to.
- 45:07[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure we're ready for stability at Episodes.
- 45:11[SPEAKER_00]: Might not fan base.
- 45:12[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it wouldn't be great not to even have to worry about.
- 45:16[SPEAKER_00]: It was almost as, you know, when we had Miles Garrett and a defense that we had, it was like, you know, we didn't have to worry about defense.
- 45:22[SPEAKER_00]: It was all about this side of the ball.
- 45:25[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just think if we get our quarterback, you know, I don't want to become a snobbish fan base.
- 45:31[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, Tom Brady and the Patriots were,
- 45:34[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and their dynasty years, we used to go into, you know, Boston and play in the Patriot state and make you sit clapping up for us like, Oh, you guys coming to play the Patriot.
- 45:44[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, good.
- 45:45[SPEAKER_00]: Good luck, guys.
- 45:45[SPEAKER_00]: Do well.
- 45:46[SPEAKER_00]: Not come dead.
- 45:47[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just so like you guys got him once over there though, didn't you?
- 45:50[SPEAKER_01]: I remember that one.
- 45:51[SPEAKER_01]: And that's remember that.
- 45:52[SPEAKER_01]: Got him once here.
- 45:53[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't look.
- 45:53[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 45:54[SPEAKER_00]: I was under Ed Madgini, but I
- 45:58[SPEAKER_00]: I like quarterback battles in this situation because the best one will play.
- 46:04[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like, okay, the best one has taken the job now, do something with it.
- 46:09[SPEAKER_00]: With another one who's hungry in the, and hungry waiting, right, if it's Watson, he's trying to correct the story.
- 46:17[SPEAKER_00]: So he's waiting.
- 46:18[SPEAKER_00]: If it's the, if it's the door, he's waiting for his moments of become, right?
- 46:23[SPEAKER_00]: And to have more experience.
- 46:25[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I'm excited about the door.
- 46:27[SPEAKER_00]: He's waiting for the moment to, to kind of silence everyone, right?
- 46:32[SPEAKER_00]: That opportunity is there for the taking right now.
- 46:35[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about this, the idea of monkey who I think Josh is leaning Watson, just because he's played a little bit more, but then we're talking with the psyche of Shador, where I was worried that if he didn't get it,
- 46:49[SPEAKER_01]: as a young guy that might hurt him a little bit and Ryan was pre-steffed because I think short can handle that and like that fire to be like I'm an overtake and we'd love you to take this job over go out there and get it done but I mean you could speak to this better than us Josh how many let's play this out for a second let's play let's say that they go with the Sean Watson under the idea it's a little more stability he's played a little bit more he maybe is just more comfortable to the Sean Watson.
- 47:16[SPEAKER_01]: how much opportunity then to should or have in a couple of practices where he's running with the twos every week, it really then comes down to probably what just to Sean not playing well right for him to switch that position out.
- 47:27[SPEAKER_00]: Let me say this right now.
- 47:29[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if y'all disagree with me.
- 47:32[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna say because we have a new stadium on the way.
- 47:38[SPEAKER_00]: I want to conserve greatness or the best of Shador as long as possible.
- 47:45[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
- 47:46[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see him in that new stadium.
- 47:48[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see even if let's say the shine plays good enough to keep the job this year.
- 47:55[SPEAKER_00]: and not good enough to remain a starter.
- 47:57[SPEAKER_00]: So when he's a free agent, I definitely believe they'll just, okay, whoop, you know, and let him see free agency.
- 48:05[SPEAKER_00]: And then in a couple years, let's say should door as a starter next season.
- 48:10[SPEAKER_00]: and then he plays well.
- 48:12[SPEAKER_00]: And then the next year, we walk into the new Huntington bank field.
- 48:15[SPEAKER_00]: And then our team looks completely different.
- 48:18[SPEAKER_00]: Tickets are being sold.
- 48:20[SPEAKER_00]: And we have the team that this fan base deserves in a stadium that this city deserves.
- 48:26[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of like my dream, Ryan, for real, that's my dream.
- 48:31[SPEAKER_00]: It's great dream, a lot of it.
- 48:32[SPEAKER_00]: Up in a few years and it's like, oh man, we win it.
- 48:35[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 48:36[SPEAKER_00]: We went to the playoffs, that's it.
- 48:37[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't win it all, but we're there.
- 48:41[SPEAKER_00]: That's the dream.
- 48:42[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not sure it's going to come into fruition.
- 48:44[SPEAKER_00]: I I want to see one of these quarterbacks finished a year I don't I don't want to see a quarterback picked.
- 48:50[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, as a starter and then he struggled six games and then like I were going back over here right.
- 48:55[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we don't want that.
- 48:56[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
- 48:56[SPEAKER_01]: we did that already we did and that's where i that again i would love should order to start because i want to see that i want to see the development i just i don't think i'm not trying to ripening these coaches josh but it's like some of these guys who go or he's taking the mental reps i'm like oh okay stay in and over there and sign like how much is it getting better and practice i don't know but like i want to see him play because i
- 49:18[SPEAKER_01]: if he is going to improve, it's going to have to come out there on Sundays, and he's going to have to show everybody that it's in.
- 49:24[SPEAKER_01]: And you're right.
- 49:25[SPEAKER_01]: There is a countdown happening, not even just beyond the state, I'll take you one step further.
- 49:30[SPEAKER_01]: You found Carson's messenger, you found what I think is good in Quinshawn and Harold Fanany rebuilt the offensive line.
- 49:37[SPEAKER_01]: You are almost almost to a point of just being a quarterback away.
- 49:43[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't care where that quarterback comes from.
- 49:45[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a knock on wood.
- 49:46[SPEAKER_01]: Right there.
- 49:47[SPEAKER_00]: And it looks fake, but that's what I've got to knock on this wheel because we had the Sean get injured in two straight seasons.
- 49:57[SPEAKER_00]: So in every position any NFL is not when you're going to get injured as if Should door better be ready to start.
- 50:05[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 50:05[SPEAKER_00]: He got his every game his his plan has to be it might be this week.
- 50:11[SPEAKER_00]: And my, I don't care if it's the six week of the season.
- 50:14[SPEAKER_00]: And we still have a lot of ball left.
- 50:17[SPEAKER_00]: He has to be ready to take control if the Sean is the starter and vice versa.
- 50:21[SPEAKER_00]: That's how this league is.
- 50:23[SPEAKER_00]: This the starter can change from injury or from just playing bad football from you become the guy.
- 50:28[SPEAKER_00]: So they got to be.
- 50:29[SPEAKER_00]: So when we say quarterback battle, chances are very high that whoever whoever is the starter may not remain
- 50:40[SPEAKER_01]: And that's they always say one play away right you got to be ready to go it truly has been that well I don't think like a quarterback It's just all of a sudden in a week of not doing anything for weeks in training camp, and then we like oh I'm the starter Okay, I'll start putting work in now like you're screwed like there's no pay you're gonna be able
- 50:56[SPEAKER_01]: to play to that level.
- 50:57[SPEAKER_01]: And the thing is, it eventually always comes back to what two people go, all the browns are tanking this year.
- 51:01[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not buying that.
- 51:02[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's good, because that's just instilling the negative connotation to this team, where you are telling all these young guys that you feel like you're going to be the part of the future.
- 51:11[SPEAKER_01]: Like, at Lusons, okay.
- 51:13[SPEAKER_01]: You know, yeah, just for this year, it's okay.
- 51:15[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get back to it next year.
- 51:16[SPEAKER_01]: Todd Monkey getting fired if that's what happens to.
- 51:19[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just, I don't think you ever truly recover from that.
- 51:22[SPEAKER_01]: until you completely turn things out.
- 51:24[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want the Browns tanking.
- 51:26[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, do they maybe need to go find a quarterback next year?
- 51:29[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I'd love your dream, Josh.
- 51:30[SPEAKER_01]: I'd love should order to be the guy.
- 51:31[SPEAKER_01]: If he's not, you go find a quarterback next year.
- 51:34[SPEAKER_01]: You put all your eggs in your basket of draft.
- 51:36[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah?
- 51:36[SPEAKER_00]: And when you just said it, put all your eggs in the basket of draft.
- 51:40[SPEAKER_00]: How many times have we done that?
- 51:41[SPEAKER_01]: And we done it?
- 51:42[SPEAKER_01]: We've done it?
- 51:42[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God, I'm so clear.
- 51:44[SPEAKER_02]: To be fair, Josh, to be fair.
- 51:48[SPEAKER_02]: Have we?
- 51:49[SPEAKER_01]: That's a show that we'll do one day.
- 51:52[SPEAKER_02]: you took one quarterback and you took one quarterback.
- 51:54[SPEAKER_01]: Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, the law.
- 51:56[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to the O5, I'm going to do first.
- 51:59[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to.
- 52:00[SPEAKER_00]: Trit, deal for Charlie Brown who I've beat in the Mac.
- 52:04[SPEAKER_02]: Josh, hear me out.
- 52:04[SPEAKER_00]: Good cow ski.
- 52:06[SPEAKER_00]: You heard that shot.
- 52:07[SPEAKER_00]: You heard that shot in the Mac, you heard that shot in the Mac.
- 52:10[SPEAKER_02]: You heard that shot in the Mac, you heard that.
- 52:11[SPEAKER_02]: How many quarterbacks have the Browns taken?
- 52:13[SPEAKER_02]: Santa.
- 52:13[SPEAKER_02]: How many quarterbacks?
- 52:14[SPEAKER_02]: Ready?
- 52:15[SPEAKER_02]: Play the Browns.
- 52:16[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, go ahead.
- 52:17[SPEAKER_02]: How many quarterbacks, Josh, since he played, and we can even just go since he's been playing on the Browns.
- 52:22[SPEAKER_02]: have they spent on like a top 10 pick on a quarterback.
- 52:25[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man, Josh, how much does it say, uh, maybe, okay, Brady quit.
- 52:29[SPEAKER_00]: Breit will not not top 10.
- 52:31[SPEAKER_00]: Top 10.
- 52:32[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was our first pick.
- 52:33[SPEAKER_00]: You know, first pick, it was our first pick.
- 52:36[SPEAKER_02]: Expanded, I was banded guys to just first round.
- 52:39[SPEAKER_01]: Our first round is just first round.
- 52:41[SPEAKER_01]: Weed and man's El Baker.
- 52:43[SPEAKER_02]: And that's it.
- 52:44[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's it.
- 52:45[SPEAKER_01]: So great, but then Brady and D.
- 52:51[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's we yeah, we yeah, we yeah, we didn't manzel and Baker my point like Tim couch and Brady Quinn back in my point being is 20 he was after Joe they took Joe Colt was a third round picture.
- 53:09[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah pretty sure
- 53:10[SPEAKER_00]: Because he came in and started right away.
- 53:12[SPEAKER_01]: He was the start right away.
- 53:13[SPEAKER_02]: Being Josh.
- 53:14[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, we named what three three four Yeah, and how many of those were like actually five picks Baker and right that's it all couch Relative point taken everybody so we go through the draft the browns aren't gonna take the we haven't even tried We've taken one quarterback
- 53:33[SPEAKER_02]: Number one overall and Baker and then you got like weed in and and pretty quick in the first round.
- 53:38[SPEAKER_00]: I think we've been burnt by Cubes, but that's a good, you know, a good take.
- 53:43[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't realize that you would think you would think the browns have been doing this every year and that was my frustration.
- 53:50[SPEAKER_02]: But so here's the problem.
- 53:52[SPEAKER_01]: And this is going to inherently come back as like a shot at shit or Sanders and I don't mean it to be, but it's like the draft is one thing right and it's not just the draft of this guy is six four and he can spin it it's is he coming to the right system do they start right away versus letting them develop and sit, but then beyond that.
- 54:11[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Browns have also gotten in their way in the past of holding on to guys too long and trying to sit there and say, well, we can try to get something out of this guy.
- 54:20[SPEAKER_01]: More often as two years, right?
- 54:21[SPEAKER_01]: Man's L didn't even get two years.
- 54:23[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't got three.
- 54:24[SPEAKER_01]: And then they jettison out from there.
- 54:26[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's where I think where the Browns are at.
- 54:28[SPEAKER_01]: There is no rush.
- 54:29[SPEAKER_01]: another reason why to start Shidorah to be honest with you, let him play.
- 54:32[SPEAKER_01]: There is no rush to find the guy right now because there is no one to find.
- 54:36[SPEAKER_01]: The source be thing is over.
- 54:38[SPEAKER_01]: The draft isn't until tomorrow or April or whenever it is next year.
- 54:41[SPEAKER_01]: Play it out the best that you can.
- 54:43[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're right in a there is no rush.
- 54:46[SPEAKER_00]: There's no rush.
- 54:47[SPEAKER_01]: Not right now.
- 54:49[SPEAKER_00]: the starter will be Sean Watson.
- 54:52[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 54:52[SPEAKER_01]: I would agree.
- 54:53[SPEAKER_00]: I think the shore has a uh, shador has a lot of talent.
- 54:57[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 54:57[SPEAKER_00]: And then we still owe even though we got insurance with the Sean Watson's contract.
- 55:02[SPEAKER_00]: I've been in the news this week.
- 55:03[SPEAKER_00]: I played this out to to the point where if he plays good this year, they'll feel like, hey, if you take us to a playoff, this may not have been the worst acquisition ever.
- 55:15[SPEAKER_01]: You know, let me tell you this too
- 55:19[SPEAKER_01]: I people are going to think it's kicking the candy on the road, right, but what if you go find a veteran guy or like you said you start to show on this year I don't think they would bring him back, but I don't know you never know right, and you're really happy.
- 55:35[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Ryan it
- 55:37[SPEAKER_01]: You have to win ten games in me in the playoffs.
- 55:40[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the minimum if you're talking about bringing to Sean back I thought hell no, that's where you were going He has to get a aFC ring in order to stay here.
- 55:49[SPEAKER_00]: Are you insane?
- 55:51[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't think I'm gonna be here Then we got to have a ring the study here I agree See I have to chip it you have to chip it.
- 55:57[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, can I not a Super Bowl even entertainer?
- 55:59[SPEAKER_01]: Can I throw you guys this status?
- 56:01[SPEAKER_00]: I'll yesterday I play all a play all for him.
- 56:04[SPEAKER_00]: We'll keep him in the lead though
- 56:05[SPEAKER_01]: It will, and he needs a job, not sure.
- 56:07[SPEAKER_00]: He would steal.
- 56:08[SPEAKER_00]: He needs a job to play.
- 56:10[SPEAKER_00]: We may not keep him unless he's deep, but he'll, that will keep him in his game.
- 56:16[SPEAKER_01]: So Warren Sharp put this out yesterday.
- 56:18[SPEAKER_01]: Since 2010, so 16 years, the most last placed finishes in your division since 2010, Browns, 10 of those 16 years we finished last.
- 56:30[SPEAKER_01]: Pittsburgh and Green Bay,
- 56:33[SPEAKER_01]: have never finished last in the last 16 years.
- 56:36[SPEAKER_01]: But here's the stat about the AFC North that I found.
- 56:39[SPEAKER_01]: During that stretch, the Ravens, Steelers, and Bengals have all won the division four different times.
- 56:47[SPEAKER_01]: They've also all been to an AFC championship game in that stretch.
- 56:53[SPEAKER_01]: So one of these things, but I like the other.
- 56:55[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody else, they have to find an way to get it done.
- 56:57[SPEAKER_01]: That's code.
- 56:58[SPEAKER_01]: You know what that is?
- 56:59[SPEAKER_01]: And quarterback.
- 57:00[SPEAKER_01]: That they've all had long-term quarterback.
- 57:02[SPEAKER_02]: It's called being a well-run organization.
- 57:04[SPEAKER_02]: Well, in a decade plus, it's just called knowing football and making, right?
- 57:08[SPEAKER_02]: You can, you mad at me.
- 57:09[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not telling you, you can't literally play or you can mask a lot of that.
- 57:12[SPEAKER_02]: You can literally lock your way into one division title one year.
- 57:16[SPEAKER_01]: that was that was that was the the the season of dreams and we make the playoffs but like a Josh I think the players can mask some of that to stealers junior do you think the stealers center looking like a really well run organization right now and quarterback yes yeah the correlation I think regardless of ownership quote coaching and quarterbacks
- 57:39[SPEAKER_00]: decide the feet of a franchise.
- 57:41[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 57:41[SPEAKER_00]: Now because a bad franchise can lock up and get a great coach and a good quarterback.
- 57:48[SPEAKER_00]: And no matter what they do, they're going to make it happen.
- 57:50[SPEAKER_00]: We know this from watching the Patriots, uh, paid many.
- 57:55[SPEAKER_00]: One year, Peyton Manning wasn't there with the Patriots.
- 57:58[SPEAKER_00]: What happened?
- 57:58[SPEAKER_00]: Patriots got the first pick in a driving that Andrew looked.
- 58:01[SPEAKER_00]: Next year, what happened?
- 58:02[SPEAKER_00]: Back in the play, also, Andrew looked.
- 58:04[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
- 58:04[SPEAKER_01]: The cold, cold, yeah.
- 58:05[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, cool.
- 58:06[SPEAKER_00]: And I just show you how important the quarterback is to a franchise.
- 58:09[SPEAKER_01]: It is, and that's, like you said, I think you know what I say, Paige Ryan is too.
- 58:12[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there is no rush for this year, but then that's going to ramp up come draft time, depending on how this season goes.
- 58:18[SPEAKER_00]: I'll rush for what though.
- 58:20[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's going to be five eight quarterbacks that people think are going to be good.
- 58:26[SPEAKER_00]: I do too.
- 58:29[SPEAKER_01]: I think people are sleeping on them.
- 58:30[SPEAKER_01]: I really do.
- 58:31[SPEAKER_01]: And I expect them to win more games this year than they did last year.
- 58:35[SPEAKER_01]: The roster is better quarterback aside even if you just want to look at the quarterback room.
- 58:41[SPEAKER_01]: The quarterback room is better than it was last year.
- 58:44[SPEAKER_01]: There is growth with Shidorr.
- 58:46[SPEAKER_01]: I know people have to joke about Dylan Gabriel.
- 58:48[SPEAKER_01]: I'm assuming he got better and Watson is back.
- 58:52[SPEAKER_01]: Whether he's got anything left.
- 58:54[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
- 58:55[SPEAKER_01]: Then you add the growth of Swesinger and Quinn Sean and fan in.
- 58:59[SPEAKER_01]: Some changes on the offensive line.
- 59:01[SPEAKER_01]: The growth of Mason Graham Tyson Campbell coming in.
- 59:05[SPEAKER_01]: This team without a doubt is going to be better this year.
- 59:09[SPEAKER_02]: You're also just not calculating that equation.
- 59:12[SPEAKER_02]: Just how bad the Sean Watson is at football.
- 59:14[SPEAKER_02]: So the point where he acted on his is you game.
- 59:16[SPEAKER_01]: We're, we're, we're final, we'll get you out of touch.
- 59:19[SPEAKER_00]: Not a joke, but I know you're not joking is just fun.
- 59:21[SPEAKER_01]: Can he capture it again, Josh?
- 59:23[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's our big thing.
- 59:24[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, can he, it's been so long?
- 59:27[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we said this before and he started to
- 59:31[SPEAKER_00]: I this is why preseason.
- 59:33[SPEAKER_00]: I think he needs to play snaps and preseason.
- 59:35[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
- 59:35[SPEAKER_00]: I think he needs to, you know, easy stuff, you know, coming out his pocket even if he takes a sack and they like, he needs to play in preseason.
- 59:43[SPEAKER_00]: That was going to be my next question that you guys are going to play these guys in preseason.
- 59:48[SPEAKER_00]: But what I honestly saw two times with the Sean Watson was
- 59:54[SPEAKER_00]: crappy football and then to start to see something.
- 59:57[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 59:58[SPEAKER_00]: And then every time we like, oh, I didn't get hurt.
- 1:00:02[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:00:03[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we seen it in the Baltimore game.
- 1:00:05[SPEAKER_00]: We seen it in a game here when he got hurt in the killies.
- 1:00:09[SPEAKER_00]: He's taking it off.
- 1:00:10[SPEAKER_00]: They were going in the score.
- 1:00:11[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I was seeing him escape pressure because our offensive line was starting to go with starting to descend.
- 1:00:18[SPEAKER_00]: And then he got hurt right on the climax of him showing everybody like, hey, hey, dodge in and dodge in bullets and deliver in passes here.
- 1:00:26[SPEAKER_00]: And that he looks like something because we don't need a legend quarterback here.
- 1:00:33[SPEAKER_00]: We need somebody who that's a great point.
- 1:00:36[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
- 1:00:36[SPEAKER_01]: That's a great point.
- 1:00:37[SPEAKER_00]: And complete passes.
- 1:00:39[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody who's just capable.
- 1:00:40[SPEAKER_00]: So we need a savior.
- 1:00:41[SPEAKER_01]: A lot to ask for again, not an end.
- 1:00:43[SPEAKER_01]: We don't need a Russian answer.
- 1:00:45[SPEAKER_01]: Because I don't think there is one right now.
- 1:00:47[SPEAKER_01]: There is no rush to it.
- 1:00:48[SPEAKER_02]: Look, I feel like you guys have him, Nisha.
- 1:00:50[SPEAKER_02]: Do we need to watch tape of how bad the Sean Watson has been these last three days?
- 1:00:53[SPEAKER_00]: The only first half of that ball team game.
- 1:00:56[SPEAKER_02]: We're living off of one half against the ball.
- 1:00:57[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, the first half.
- 1:00:59[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing that's half of that ball team game, that's how he was playing.
- 1:01:02[SPEAKER_00]: The only in the seventh one, the first play to game.
- 1:01:04[SPEAKER_00]: Remember that?
- 1:01:05[SPEAKER_01]: I am only gonna play Devils at Advocate on.
- 1:01:07[SPEAKER_01]: He was injured.
- 1:01:09[SPEAKER_01]: And I do think,
- 1:01:11[SPEAKER_01]: I love you Ryan, I don't think you're giving enough credit to him being injured.
- 1:01:17[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sitting here telling you he's going to be a pro-polar again.
- 1:01:20[SPEAKER_01]: Would I start should or yes, set that all aside for a second.
- 1:01:24[SPEAKER_01]: He was hurt.
- 1:01:25[SPEAKER_00]: He did some nice things like that.
- 1:01:27[SPEAKER_00]: He did.
- 1:01:27[SPEAKER_00]: He was hurt.
- 1:01:28[SPEAKER_00]: If I show you like the best of him, don't while he played versus the worst of them.
- 1:01:34[SPEAKER_00]: You got to say.
- 1:01:35[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 1:01:35[SPEAKER_00]: The best point in a text.
- 1:01:36[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he had a Mari Cooper, no, no, no.
- 1:01:39[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about here.
- 1:01:39[SPEAKER_00]: The best of you.
- 1:01:42[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a lot over you're going to have to go to a lot of games to pick out a few players.
- 1:01:46[SPEAKER_01]: They're there.
- 1:01:46[SPEAKER_01]: They're there.
- 1:01:46[SPEAKER_01]: They're there.
- 1:01:47[SPEAKER_01]: They're there.
- 1:01:47[SPEAKER_01]: They're there.
- 1:01:47[SPEAKER_00]: They're very pretty.
- 1:01:49[SPEAKER_00]: Passes.
- 1:01:49[SPEAKER_00]: Why I'm saying that?
- 1:01:50[SPEAKER_00]: That's a quarterback.
- 1:01:51[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:01:52[SPEAKER_01]: Josh really preached this coming in.
- 1:01:53[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's there.
- 1:01:54[SPEAKER_01]: You'll be here.
- 1:01:55[SPEAKER_01]: We want to find a thing where throw some golf picks out for the British open.
- 1:01:58[SPEAKER_01]: Coming up.
- 1:01:58[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you about our friends at Fandles.
- 1:01:59[SPEAKER_01]: Stay with us.
- 1:02:00[SPEAKER_01]: We're here.
- 1:02:00[SPEAKER_01]: I'm big play.
- 1:02:01[SPEAKER_01]: All right, welcome back as big play Cleveland live on YouTube, Matt Fontana Ryan Tyler.
- 1:02:06[SPEAKER_01]: We just had a great conversation with Josh Cribbs, catch it every Wednesday tomorrow.
- 1:02:10[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be driving in myself, Chef Zay on Tuesdays with Max, Jack is there Mondays, reflog Nick Gab, Phil on Mondays or Tuesdays, full Taylor.
- 1:02:22[SPEAKER_02]: Phyllis Tuesday Tuesday's top dog Mr. Hanford.
- 1:02:25[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's right.
- 1:02:25[SPEAKER_01]: Hanford's in a month.
- 1:02:26[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
- 1:02:27[SPEAKER_01]: And then, of course, a lot of that crew comes back on Friday.
- 1:02:29[SPEAKER_01]: We got everything locked up for you.
- 1:02:31[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just, let's just put a bow on this conversation.
- 1:02:34[SPEAKER_01]: Please.
- 1:02:35[SPEAKER_01]: Shador and to Sean Watson.
- 1:02:38[SPEAKER_01]: I get that you have years of examples of reasons to believe that to Sean Watson can't do it.
- 1:02:47[SPEAKER_01]: And also, there is the human emotional factor that frankly a lot of people in this town don't want him to do it here.
- 1:02:55[SPEAKER_01]: And they don't care.
- 1:02:56[SPEAKER_01]: They'd rather suck than be good with the Sean Watts and a quarterback.
- 1:02:59[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not gonna tell you wrong for that.
- 1:03:01[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not gonna tell you wrong for it.
- 1:03:03[SPEAKER_01]: But the difference is, there is emotion when making decisions.
- 1:03:11[SPEAKER_01]: It's about that much.
- 1:03:13[SPEAKER_01]: I can't lie to you and tell you the coaches don't have a motion when they make decisions on who starts or who plays and it's sometimes a motion of, we drafted this guy.
- 1:03:22[SPEAKER_01]: I can't look like an idiot.
- 1:03:23[SPEAKER_01]: I got to back up my general manager here, those go into those decisions, but a lot of times it just comes down to who is the better player and who's going to give us a better chance to do it.
- 1:03:34[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that should always handers.
- 1:03:36[SPEAKER_01]: I would love for that to be the case.
- 1:03:39[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think that's what's going to happen.
- 1:03:41[SPEAKER_02]: Good.
- 1:03:42[SPEAKER_02]: What have you seen that makes you think that way?
- 1:03:45[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
- 1:03:46[SPEAKER_02]: The whole argument is literally, he's just a veteran.
- 1:03:48[SPEAKER_02]: That it's not like, that's the entire argument that's a veteran.
- 1:03:51[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but he's not a Ryan Fitzpatrick.
- 1:03:55[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, he had one point, Sean Watson was arguably a top three quarterback in the lead.
- 1:04:00[SPEAKER_02]: And at one point, I was a toddler.
- 1:04:02[SPEAKER_01]: I know, it was eight years ago.
- 1:04:03[SPEAKER_01]: I get it.
- 1:04:04[SPEAKER_01]: But Lee, again, that's what they're holding on to.
- 1:04:09[SPEAKER_01]: going to make me get in all the supports coming out of Houston that bill of Brian was telling him what he had to do.
- 1:04:13[SPEAKER_01]: Like, let's, I, I, those were out there.
- 1:04:16[SPEAKER_01]: You don't got a search hard form.
- 1:04:17[SPEAKER_01]: You'll find them.
- 1:04:18[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't say that.
- 1:04:19[SPEAKER_01]: There's reports out there that all that was smoking mirrors when he was down there in Houston.
- 1:04:24[SPEAKER_01]: He's here.
- 1:04:25[SPEAKER_01]: He's paid.
- 1:04:26[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see how it goes.
- 1:04:28[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
- 1:04:28[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to talk some guards before we get to our, our, our, our, our fandle bets here coming up.
- 1:04:33[SPEAKER_01]: Second half, second half of the season with the All-Star Break.
- 1:04:37[SPEAKER_01]: First off, All-Star Break, Home Run Derby, well done.
- 1:04:40[SPEAKER_01]: That was fun, man.
- 1:04:42[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to go back to 10 outs and every swing is either a home runner out.
- 1:04:46[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like just the swings.
- 1:04:48[SPEAKER_02]: See, I'm so glad they got rid of the clock.
- 1:04:50[SPEAKER_01]: The clock needed to go.
- 1:04:51[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate them trying it.
- 1:04:54[SPEAKER_01]: Because you want to know what else, the players, like you saw it a few times with contraris and Jordan Walker, they could take a second to like breathe.
- 1:05:03[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't up there just hacking because then they get even more tired.
- 1:05:06[SPEAKER_01]: Some of those guys in the clock era looked like they're about to pass out.
- 1:05:10[SPEAKER_01]: This was...
- 1:05:12[SPEAKER_01]: Chef's kiss perfect well done so we all start weekend, man, and professional sports that It doesn't well crap crap.
- 1:05:20[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun.
- 1:05:21[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun.
- 1:05:22[SPEAKER_01]: Kade, Messick YRE leaders in all star game history.
- 1:05:25[SPEAKER_01]: You can't take that away from those guys
- 1:05:27[SPEAKER_01]: That Bryce Harper clip, what he's talking about, okay.
- 1:05:30[SPEAKER_01]: He goes, well, he goes, wow.
- 1:05:32[SPEAKER_01]: That was a lot of fun to watch.
- 1:05:34[SPEAKER_01]: Home Run Derby though, I mean, that was it.
- 1:05:37[SPEAKER_01]: They all started game was finding it a couple of days off.
- 1:05:39[SPEAKER_01]: Second half predictions, because are you ready for mine?
- 1:05:42[SPEAKER_01]: Cause I unequivocally.
- 1:05:44[SPEAKER_01]: I feel this to my core, I have no doubt about this.
- 1:05:46[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go jump on Fandel and place the bud.
- 1:05:48[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, guardians are winning the alms.
- 1:05:50[SPEAKER_01]: There's no doubt about it.
- 1:05:51[SPEAKER_02]: I completely agree with you, but I think they're going to win it.
- 1:05:53[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, I mean, you're tied for first.
- 1:05:55[SPEAKER_02]: You're getting back, Jose.
- 1:05:56[SPEAKER_02]: You're getting back on how Martinez.
- 1:05:57[SPEAKER_02]: That's it, man.
- 1:05:58[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, you've been going to hit.
- 1:05:59[SPEAKER_01]: That is going to slap when he comes back.
- 1:06:01[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to look back on that series against Miami, the sweep.
- 1:06:05[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, like that was literally season saving.
- 1:06:07[SPEAKER_02]: That was a stabilizer.
- 1:06:09[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:06:09[SPEAKER_01]: That was what that was.
- 1:06:10[SPEAKER_02]: You've played a lot of good team.
- 1:06:12[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:06:13[SPEAKER_02]: I think they were one sixth straight.
- 1:06:15[SPEAKER_02]: They were like 10 games above 500, surprising some people.
- 1:06:19[SPEAKER_02]: And you went into their stadium and swept them out to add into all Starbreak.
- 1:06:22[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's going to be massive for this ball club.
- 1:06:24[SPEAKER_01]: All right, hang on.
- 1:06:26[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to.
- 1:06:27[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I have American League National League.
- 1:06:30[SPEAKER_01]: Why can't I do divisions?
- 1:06:33[SPEAKER_01]: Futures?
- 1:06:33[SPEAKER_01]: With it?
- 1:06:34[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I'm on League winner.
- 1:06:36[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you're ready?
- 1:06:37[SPEAKER_02]: Fandal, maybe.
- 1:06:39[SPEAKER_01]: American League winner Yankees plus 210 Seattle plus 460 Tampa plus 550 Texas 850 Guardians plus 1000 so that's number 5 so just off of this their favorite ahead of the white socks and the Tigers which is fun on this so I'm assuming maybe a favor to lend it let me know if you agree with this I understand why actually I let me take that back I understand why the guardians are believe
- 1:07:08[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe not because of lack of an experience and stuff like that, but do the white socks?
- 1:07:13[SPEAKER_01]: Not have a better chance to win a playoff series against the Yankees or Rays in the Guardians do.
- 1:07:17[SPEAKER_02]: Because they had home runs.
- 1:07:19[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:07:21[SPEAKER_01]: their pitching isn't our pitching like that's where the difference comes for me but how far does pitching get you in the playoffs a lot right at the wall and i'm telling you i'm not the script but when one swing when we see one soda when we see air judge when we have been right that's the problem is that you first for that because we don't have it
- 1:07:41[SPEAKER_01]: That's why the first for that because we don't have it.
- 1:07:43[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate the Guardians brand of baseball It's small ball you win by pitching a dominant bullpen and you hit with runners in position I love that that win two games until it doesn't when you need one big swing I'm doing man.
- 1:07:55[SPEAKER_02]: Let's spend the death of them for the last four years.
- 1:07:57[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
- 1:07:57[SPEAKER_01]: You're ready for this here.
- 1:07:58[SPEAKER_01]: We go longer than that here We go Guardians are 51 in 46.
- 1:08:01[SPEAKER_01]: They are tied atop the ale central with the white socks You go to fandool.com Baby fandool.com slash big clip
- 1:08:09[SPEAKER_01]: updated season wind total for the guardians is at 84 and a half, which by the way, is two games above the white socks.
- 1:08:19[SPEAKER_01]: So everything is pointing that they are favored on Fhandle to win the central.
- 1:08:24[SPEAKER_01]: So we have 97 games in, which means we have 65 left.
- 1:08:28[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, did you do that all day or so?
- 1:08:31[SPEAKER_01]: No, I used my phone.
- 1:08:32[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 1:08:34[SPEAKER_01]: So to get to 84 wins, Erish, me 85 to take the over.
- 1:08:39[SPEAKER_01]: That means we would need 34 more wins.
- 1:08:43[SPEAKER_01]: Can the guardians go 34 and 31 on the way out to hit that over?
- 1:08:48[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think they could.
- 1:08:48[SPEAKER_02]: You know, nobody just really talked about it, but could this Jose Andre kind of be a blessing in disguise?
- 1:08:52[SPEAKER_01]: Could be a little spark.
- 1:08:53[SPEAKER_01]: You got some good out of Cleo Watson while he was out.
- 1:08:55[SPEAKER_01]: I think Roke Yo has stepped up in a big way without Jose Ramirez.
- 1:08:59[SPEAKER_01]: Look at Gabby Oris.
- 1:09:01[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you're sitting gabby artists don't give you twisted on this, but it just gets him, you know, truth, truthfully, like that's the thing, as volatile as Gabriel Arias is, I think he's got to be in your lineup, come play off time, because of his power, what if you could move, what if you could pose a third, rokyl, go to second, Arias shortstop and Guardians up to do this, because on and out field, I don't know if it's going to work out, but is it going to be worse than second base?
- 1:09:27[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.
- 1:09:28[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think stop giving them ideas because they're gonna do the group that though like a guy like Ari's I wanted my line up unless unless I get to the playoffs and he's don't jack squat The problem with that is the only spot might be DH and then you're taking away Probably one I don't want to move it broke you.
- 1:09:44[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you don't can't move broke you off of that.
- 1:09:46[SPEAKER_02]: Bye
- 1:09:47[SPEAKER_01]: Did that send the bad message or clubhouse or that guy's your starting short stop you doing not take Brian Royal.
- 1:09:52[SPEAKER_02]: You think he'd take an ego hit if he just moved to second where he originally was?
- 1:09:55[SPEAKER_02]: No, because then you got to sit, Travis Pazano, which is another ego hit.
- 1:09:57[SPEAKER_02]: You don't do that.
- 1:09:58[SPEAKER_02]: Guys, man, you're all started.
- 1:09:58[SPEAKER_02]: Man, I feel, but I feel, but I feel, but I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel,
- 1:10:06[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that's gonna hurt us.
- 1:10:09[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's up my rear-end Ryan because all of a sudden after two weeks, I guess quans back.
- 1:10:13[SPEAKER_01]: Proof me?
- 1:10:14[SPEAKER_01]: I do, I tell you this with every ounce of my soul.
- 1:10:17[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to be wrong about Stephen Quand.
- 1:10:19[SPEAKER_01]: I know he's batin' over 300 over last couple of weeks.
- 1:10:22[SPEAKER_01]: Please shove it up my butt.
- 1:10:24[SPEAKER_01]: Please tell me I'm wrong about Stephen Quand.
- 1:10:27[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.
- 1:10:28[SPEAKER_01]: I'd love to be wrong.
- 1:10:30[SPEAKER_01]: He's at a couple of good weeks.
- 1:10:32[SPEAKER_01]: He but roll it.
- 1:10:33[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
- 1:10:36[SPEAKER_01]: It's I think you do I think you need I mean at that point you're going to see like at that point You will have plenty of an example to sit there and go where to Steve and fry David Fry come play out time That's where he goes the bench Neuro what I'm saying is you're gonna have these decisions on guys like fry and shneem in and Cleo Watson Who are not your everyday guys
- 1:10:57[SPEAKER_01]: but that roster spot is gonna be important on who would you rather come off the bench when you need like a go ahead home run type situation.
- 1:11:04[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I think might hurt Gabiard.
- 1:11:06[SPEAKER_01]: One of the best things about Gabiard is his defense.
- 1:11:08[SPEAKER_01]: He could play a mean third base, got a cannon for an arm, he's good at short.
- 1:11:13[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry brother, there's no spot there for you.
- 1:11:17[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying send him back down.
- 1:11:18[SPEAKER_01]: He's deserved enough to stay up here.
- 1:11:21[SPEAKER_01]: So here's the only thing I'm going to say about Jose returning.
- 1:11:24[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait for that.
- 1:11:25[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be awesome.
- 1:11:26[SPEAKER_01]: It is going to stunt somebody.
- 1:11:28[SPEAKER_01]: Not everybody can play.
- 1:11:30[SPEAKER_01]: When on a hill comes back, Khalil Watson's at bats are going to tank.
- 1:11:34[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see that.
- 1:11:35[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to suck.
- 1:11:37[SPEAKER_01]: You can't play everybody.
- 1:11:39[SPEAKER_01]: And the problem is,
- 1:11:41[SPEAKER_01]: Here, maybe I'll focus my Stephen Quonrage at somebody else.
- 1:11:45[SPEAKER_01]: The problem is that they keep leaving Kalman Zardo in the line up, and they don't have any word to put him for someone known God a reason.
- 1:11:54[SPEAKER_01]: And Reece Hoskins, you're not cutting him, he's a veteran guy.
- 1:11:59[SPEAKER_01]: We've got to be ours the first, do that.
- 1:12:01[SPEAKER_01]: How about that?
- 1:12:02[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be interesting.
- 1:12:04[SPEAKER_01]: Do that.
- 1:12:05[SPEAKER_01]: I am so sick of seeing Kalman Zardo.
- 1:12:09[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
- 1:12:11[SPEAKER_01]: playoff first game dream one talk it and i'm talking everything so pitching gap with your group that yeah given i would i wouldn't put that on mess in your process maybe by be maybe but i would so i would yes given is your starter okay i want to win that game so i'm not starting by be okay anyway that's a shot catcher
- 1:12:29[SPEAKER_02]: Patrick Bailey or Hedge is what if I the interchange will you start base Jose Yes, again, I would like it.
- 1:12:35[SPEAKER_01]: I'm putting Rochio at shore.
- 1:12:36[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to different on this John is going to be at second year.
- 1:12:39[SPEAKER_02]: I'll fill on held Chase and then what's that left field spot?
- 1:12:42[SPEAKER_01]: Juan Juan for defense.
- 1:12:44[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 1:12:44[SPEAKER_01]: That's the other thing to I want to make this clear when I was like ripping on Stephen Juan.
- 1:12:46[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't talk him out as defense defense is not he not lost a step out there
- 1:12:50[SPEAKER_01]: What I said and did not not say this in that clip that we said I said you need to start thinking of a little bit like Austin Hedges He's really gonna be out there just as a defense as a mid.
- 1:13:00[SPEAKER_01]: Have you seen his average?
- 1:13:01[SPEAKER_01]: Who Austin Hedges?
- 1:13:02[SPEAKER_01]: I know he's he's he's rake he's like I love it love love to see it
- 1:13:07[SPEAKER_01]: But, yeah, and they have the whole, again, they have, I wouldn't even say plenty of time to go because again, you're 97 games in, so we're well past the halfway point.
- 1:13:15[SPEAKER_02]: Um, what's your starting rotation in the playoffs?
- 1:13:18[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we're only starting three.
- 1:13:20[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm saying.
- 1:13:20[SPEAKER_02]: A three games here.
- 1:13:21[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't think there's any debate on this.
- 1:13:23[SPEAKER_02]: So, you're gonna say Tanner.
- 1:13:24[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:13:25[SPEAKER_02]: But, you must think.
- 1:13:26[SPEAKER_02]: Gavin and Messick way better than Tanner.
- 1:13:28[SPEAKER_01]: for now.
- 1:13:28[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:13:29[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 1:13:29[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever for now.
- 1:13:30[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not.
- 1:13:30[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not.
- 1:13:31[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not.
- 1:13:31[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to argue with you about the other games.
- 1:13:34[SPEAKER_01]: I love Joey.
- 1:13:34[SPEAKER_01]: Can't tell.
- 1:13:35[SPEAKER_01]: You know I'm a Joey.
- 1:13:36[SPEAKER_01]: Can't tell.
- 1:13:36[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God.
- 1:13:37[SPEAKER_01]: Last week he's been one of the best pictures.
- 1:13:39[SPEAKER_01]: He's been very good.
- 1:13:40[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very good.
- 1:13:41[UNKNOWN]: I'm not starting to care.
- 1:13:42[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to play off.
- 1:13:43[SPEAKER_01]: He got screwed up in that game because of the warning control.
- 1:13:48[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not trying to argue.
- 1:13:49[SPEAKER_02]: They get where I run.
- 1:13:50[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't know for you.
- 1:13:51[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to know what I'm coming about this.
- 1:13:53[SPEAKER_01]: He got messed up because the warning track wasn't rise of professional athlete.
- 1:13:59[SPEAKER_01]: You got a, you wouldn't, you're not giving Watson any benefit of the doubt.
- 1:14:03[SPEAKER_01]: You're not giving Tanner, by be any benefit of the doubt.
- 1:14:05[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Tanner, I'll listen.
- 1:14:07[SPEAKER_02]: Watson, you drive John Watson, you're actually a lunatic.
- 1:14:13[SPEAKER_01]: Wouldn't be the first and the last time that that's come up.
- 1:14:16[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, even Slates Coney's kind of found out you're for a little bit.
- 1:14:19[SPEAKER_01]: Knock on wood though, man, that's starting five.
- 1:14:21[SPEAKER_01]: Keep it rolling, right?
- 1:14:22[SPEAKER_01]: Keep him going around that.
- 1:14:23[SPEAKER_02]: All right, bullpen arm, biggest need.
- 1:14:27[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think.
- 1:14:27[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, the right handed stick is starting to come back up.
- 1:14:33[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I, at this point, I feel good about talking about playoff series.
- 1:14:37[SPEAKER_01]: Gadis or I'm sick.
- 1:14:38[SPEAKER_01]: Those are the nine get the choice.
- 1:14:40[SPEAKER_01]: It confidence level.
- 1:14:41[SPEAKER_01]: Gates, Gates good.
- 1:14:43[SPEAKER_01]: Gadis is good.
- 1:14:44[SPEAKER_01]: Subrowski, I'm still in on.
- 1:14:46[SPEAKER_01]: I know that one walk in the base load of that piss me off whatever.
- 1:14:49[SPEAKER_02]: best up.
- 1:14:50[SPEAKER_01]: No, Tim, Aaron hurt.
- 1:14:52[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's hurt.
- 1:14:53[SPEAKER_01]: I do not want to see Sean Armstrong in any sort of I love their mission.
- 1:14:56[SPEAKER_01]: Hold them.
- 1:14:57[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine.
- 1:14:57[SPEAKER_01]: I'm fine with calling home.
- 1:14:58[SPEAKER_01]: I like calling home, but he's like a Hellnick's spinning.
- 1:15:01[SPEAKER_01]: I need an out guy not not multiple outs compliers.
- 1:15:04[SPEAKER_02]: This team would be so perfect for Andrew Miller.
- 1:15:08[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like yeah
- 1:15:11[SPEAKER_01]: him a team with so it's you know Andrew Miller's a great example that you bring up because of this they're going to look for somebody with team control they're going to whatever the lockout is going to be next year they're not trading for a rented they're not going to get Josh Donaldson again J Bruce are there trading for somebody if they do that has team control for a couple of years and I've seen
- 1:15:33[SPEAKER_01]: You know, quite a few lists of guys, it's baseball is so different because like football, and it's basketball, you know when guys are going to get moved.
- 1:15:44[SPEAKER_01]: I guess maybe not football.
- 1:15:45[SPEAKER_01]: Baseball, like they're not even sure that Derek Scoople's going to get traded now.
- 1:15:49[SPEAKER_01]: What's coming out about him?
- 1:15:50[SPEAKER_01]: He's the wall.
- 1:15:51[SPEAKER_01]: I want to stay into Troy.
- 1:15:52[SPEAKER_02]: That was six and a half back.
- 1:15:53[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
- 1:15:54[SPEAKER_01]: That's where baseball you have so many teams.
- 1:15:58[SPEAKER_01]: That's what the death feel like.
- 1:15:59[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think dead lines too late.
- 1:16:02[SPEAKER_01]: I do.
- 1:16:02[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
- 1:16:03[SPEAKER_01]: It's way too late.
- 1:16:04[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
- 1:16:04[SPEAKER_02]: It's I I thought it should be the right for all start.
- 1:16:07[SPEAKER_01]: It should be fourth of July.
- 1:16:09[SPEAKER_01]: It should be right before the fourth of July.
- 1:16:12[SPEAKER_01]: Because at this point,
- 1:16:15[SPEAKER_01]: you know, they do it later in the season because there are some unequivocal teams that are like the royals are just rear end.
- 1:16:22[SPEAKER_01]: But the thing is, the royals, they're not trading away.
- 1:16:27[SPEAKER_01]: They have a bunch of young guys that just aren't playing well.
- 1:16:30[SPEAKER_01]: To get caggling on, I was money will spend for me on Fandle.
- 1:16:33[SPEAKER_02]: You bet him to win the Derby.
- 1:16:35[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:16:36[SPEAKER_01]: I'm dumbass.
- 1:16:37[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what to tell you.
- 1:16:39[SPEAKER_01]: But like,
- 1:16:40[SPEAKER_01]: that gap of teams of buyers and sellers, it gets so muddy, it gets so blurry in business.
- 1:16:47[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think it's like 22 teams are within six games of a playoff spot.
- 1:16:51[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they want, that's what they want.
- 1:16:53[SPEAKER_01]: Here we are.
- 1:16:55[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Salvador Perez is a minus one war, and I laughed.
- 1:17:01[SPEAKER_01]: He's a Hall of Famer.
- 1:17:02[SPEAKER_02]: AARP, very soon.
- 1:17:03[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a Hall of Famer, but they keep trotting him out there.
- 1:17:07[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's welcome to your difference, right?
- 1:17:09[SPEAKER_01]: You have the house and the house nods, but the problem is that there's more teams in baseball that feel like they can be there.
- 1:17:14[SPEAKER_01]: And the Guardian's gonna have to give up prospects, which they did.
- 1:17:17[SPEAKER_02]: Do not feel as though.
- 1:17:20[SPEAKER_02]: If they don't go make one of those moves, which I'm sure you agree with this, there's not going to be some earth shattering move that we're coming in so many days.
- 1:17:27[SPEAKER_02]: There's not going to be a walker Joe Raidel, Chris Hanson, any for making.
- 1:17:31[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 1:17:33[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the joke is real quick, everybody goes, you know, and today is because it's an on press conference.
- 1:17:36[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, getting Jose Ramirez is like making a trait like that that's going to be set, but continue on, please.
- 1:17:42[SPEAKER_02]: But you feel better versus like the last two years when we met up against the eighties.
- 1:17:47[SPEAKER_02]: Because what?
- 1:17:48[SPEAKER_02]: But it's like it's a dish and answer traction.
- 1:17:50[SPEAKER_02]: You could say the starting rotation is better than it was last two years.
- 1:17:53[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but the bullpen's worse.
- 1:17:55[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but your line-ups better potentially.
- 1:17:59[SPEAKER_01]: Bars low on the line-up, but your line-up is 100% better.
- 1:18:02[SPEAKER_01]: Should be.
- 1:18:05[SPEAKER_01]: Mm, nice.
- 1:18:06[SPEAKER_02]: Like you buy this roster can win an ale penit.
- 1:18:13[SPEAKER_01]: That's your answer.
- 1:18:13[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
- 1:18:15[SPEAKER_01]: No.
- 1:18:15[SPEAKER_01]: Make the playoffs 100% win the central shirt.
- 1:18:18[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, that's a walk in the car.
- 1:18:19[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but how many times have I said that?
- 1:18:21[SPEAKER_01]: And that is the team that somehow makes it to the LChampion ship.
- 1:18:25[SPEAKER_01]: I'm commenting that, that's what they do.
- 1:18:26[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, I win in the LCS.
- 1:18:27[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I, I, I.
- 1:18:29[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, then, you know, I think things somebody gets hurt, twist an ankle, messes with a drone, I don't know.
- 1:18:35[SPEAKER_02]: Junior Camino, get hit with a knife, you know, I don't.
- 1:18:41[SPEAKER_01]: I love Justin from Lockdown.
- 1:18:42[SPEAKER_01]: I've known Justin a long time.
- 1:18:45[SPEAKER_02]: He said bro, let it go.
- 1:18:46[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, but you, in people who will, well, how'd they get Corey Clover, right?
- 1:18:50[SPEAKER_01]: They knew they did the Pilgrows.
- 1:18:52[SPEAKER_01]: No, like Corey Clover was gonna be when he was and traded him a what?
- 1:18:55[SPEAKER_01]: They had no reason to get ready to do your game in here.
- 1:18:58[SPEAKER_01]: You, like, just say, 17 years ago, he didn't play the game's state side yet.
- 1:19:04[SPEAKER_01]: Don't give me started to on, go look at Jake Bowers, number says here.
- 1:19:11[SPEAKER_01]: and Jake Bowers was a guy that everybody here said get out of town.
- 1:19:15[SPEAKER_01]: We don't want you here anymore.
- 1:19:19[SPEAKER_01]: He's been 280 with 20 some bombs.
- 1:19:24[SPEAKER_01]: because you want to know what the recipe is for the guardians.
- 1:19:26[SPEAKER_01]: You want to cut this the way the guardians don't want you to tell you what it is.
- 1:19:29[SPEAKER_01]: They know exactly when to get rid of pictures.
- 1:19:32[SPEAKER_01]: They've never missed on that.
- 1:19:34[SPEAKER_01]: They know exactly when it's time to sell on the pictures.
- 1:19:38[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know Corey Clubran and no hit or with the Yankees after he left here.
- 1:19:41[SPEAKER_01]: Go find me a picture that's gotten better after he left here.
- 1:19:44[SPEAKER_01]: Clevgenjure, Bauer!
- 1:19:46[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I know he had the off-the-fields up, but he was pitch it okay, fine.
- 1:19:49[SPEAKER_01]: Mike Clem just never been the same.
- 1:19:51[SPEAKER_01]: Shane Bieber's clearly not the same.
- 1:19:52[SPEAKER_01]: Corey Clober was not, they know exactly what he heard of pitchers.
- 1:19:55[SPEAKER_01]: They ate for the life of them can't do that for haters.
- 1:19:58[SPEAKER_01]: They can't do it because they can't develop hitters, because they haven't developed hitters for a long time.
- 1:20:03[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I pray to the baseball gods out there that there is a turning of this tide, because I watch on hell and delater and bazana and some of these younger hitters starting to come up and I just pray that they have figured out how to develop some hitting because they couldn't for the longest time.
- 1:20:23[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why Yandee Diaz isn't here.
- 1:20:25[SPEAKER_01]: That's why Junior came again.
- 1:20:27[SPEAKER_01]: They sold when he was 17 years old.
- 1:20:29[SPEAKER_01]: I understand that.
- 1:20:31[SPEAKER_01]: I knew that.
- 1:20:33[SPEAKER_01]: But it was still a mistake.
- 1:20:35[SPEAKER_01]: What do you have developed the same here?
- 1:20:36[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
- 1:20:37[SPEAKER_01]: Same quarterback.
- 1:20:38[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Josh Allen.
- 1:20:38[SPEAKER_01]: I've been the same as you'd come to the pronounce.
- 1:20:40[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
- 1:20:41[SPEAKER_02]: But that's just the Guardians.
- 1:20:42[SPEAKER_01]: They know when to get rid of pictures, they don't know about hitters.
- 1:20:44[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm gonna start talking about... Ernie Clement doesn't count about that.
- 1:20:46[SPEAKER_02]: After all we just said, I think I'm gonna end up talking myself into them winning the penit.
- 1:20:50[SPEAKER_01]: But um, the years that they do it, man.
- 1:20:52[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's the years they do.
- 1:20:55[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not in lockstep with the farm systems, like some people are, you just mentioned, Justin.
- 1:21:00[SPEAKER_01]: Justin, it was like that.
- 1:21:00[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was like that.
- 1:21:01[SPEAKER_01]: No threat or anything more than I would ever.
- 1:21:03[SPEAKER_01]: Been a time in the last decade, like, where you had, like, obviously pair it with Jose,
- 1:21:09[SPEAKER_01]: the water that you've not on how you've had a zana you've had a lot of like those are four notes right there that like serious potential imagine who Juan hadn't fallen off the cliff imagine if a man you're costing I said I want to well I've said this about this line up but I'm going to say it again I think this is the most complete line up that the guardians have had in 20 years
- 1:21:34[SPEAKER_02]: Seriously what sucks about it to Matt I'm not saying you're wrong because I don't know enough to disagree with you and from what I've watched this year It's like yeah, I feel like why you could say that, but And maybe I'm just being a baseball Idiot like it's just oh man Do we have the power and are we gonna hit with runners in scoring position that's well and the other thing is average is down across the league Like your number one hit or this year is chased a lot or two seven eight that used to be you know
- 1:22:02[SPEAKER_01]: your leader should be a 300, and but baseball has changed.
- 1:22:05[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, the long ball part of it is frustrating.
- 1:22:08[SPEAKER_01]: You got four guys with double digit home runs and two of them have been on the IL for a month in Jose and on Helm Martinez.
- 1:22:16[SPEAKER_01]: You're doing it a little differently.
- 1:22:18[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're, we're, we're, we're a good spot with the guards.
- 1:22:21[SPEAKER_01]: No, I, they're winning the division.
- 1:22:23[SPEAKER_01]: I've said that.
- 1:22:24[SPEAKER_01]: I feel that 100% they are winning the division.
- 1:22:27[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I, I just did this.
- 1:22:28[SPEAKER_01]: I should just place this bat right now.
- 1:22:30[SPEAKER_01]: I need them to go 31.
- 1:22:33[SPEAKER_01]: When I say 34 and 31, I didn't go 34 and 31 on the way out to hit their over 85 or over 84 and a half wins.
- 1:22:40[SPEAKER_01]: They're schedule like that's the easiest scheduling baseball easiest schedule in baseball with Jose coming back with on hell coming back and to move do we need a bull.
- 1:22:52[SPEAKER_01]: But there's a move there's a move.
- 1:22:53[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it is, but there's 100% of move we're going to get there.
- 1:22:57[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I'm on a fan to all ready.
- 1:22:58[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.
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- 1:23:06[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a good game Didn't watch England Argentina England a slight slight favorite.
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- 1:24:27[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so we have the world cup today, I'll go England.
- 1:24:30[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that's it.
- 1:24:31[SPEAKER_01]: But this is where we're going.
- 1:24:32[SPEAKER_01]: Wild birthday, baby British open.
- 1:24:35[SPEAKER_01]: So the number one thing, you see the favorite down there, Scott Schaffler, a Rory's already been there playing.
- 1:24:42[SPEAKER_01]: Tommy everybody's upset about that.
- 1:24:44[SPEAKER_01]: He goes there and plays so really.
- 1:24:45[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing you want to watch on Royal Burke Dale starts tomorrow.
- 1:24:47[SPEAKER_01]: They said this could be the firmest major championship ever played Ryan you're a little in the golf right they said they're hitting five
- 1:25:03[SPEAKER_01]: So, the number one thing like a lot of major championships check driving accuracy, you're gonna want to keep guys that keep it in the fairway because you're just losing yardage, you're gonna lose strokes on the field, not just because the Fescue is long, but their 50 yards ahead of you, it's changing your shot trajectory, the other thing.
- 1:25:22[SPEAKER_01]: You gotta have a guy that can stop the ball on the greens.
- 1:25:26[SPEAKER_01]: Greens, not just in regulation, but another big stat that I was looking at look at is proximity to the hole.
- 1:25:33[SPEAKER_01]: When they hit their approach shot, how close are they getting it to the hole?
- 1:25:37[SPEAKER_01]: Because you gotta have to stop it where you need to stop it on these greens.
- 1:25:42[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be a lot of fun.
- 1:25:43[SPEAKER_01]: I got some bets, all right.
- 1:25:45[SPEAKER_01]: Did this want a little bit different for everybody?
- 1:25:47[SPEAKER_01]: This is my top finisher's one.
- 1:25:52[SPEAKER_01]: But I want to give everybody a piece of advice when it comes to betting golf and top finishes.
- 1:25:58[SPEAKER_01]: Ryan, when you parlay them, it's self-deprecating because if Zander finishes top 10, that takes a spot away from Brian Hormen to potentially do it.
- 1:26:08[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot of sharp people that do the betting that say, don't ever parlay top finishes, bet them individually.
- 1:26:15[SPEAKER_01]: Now that being said, Russell Henley number one.
- 1:26:18[SPEAKER_02]: could be a dark horse winner too.
- 1:26:20[SPEAKER_01]: He shows up in the playoffs or assuming the majors.
- 1:26:23[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I really liked about Russell Henley?
- 1:26:25[SPEAKER_01]: It was first thing I mentioned, driving accuracy.
- 1:26:27[SPEAKER_01]: That is Russell Henley.
- 1:26:28[SPEAKER_01]: Number two, Brian Harmon, top 20.
- 1:26:30[SPEAKER_01]: This guy's won a British open before.
- 1:26:34[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's actually been playing pretty solid here.
- 1:26:36[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to take him for top 20 and Zander Schoffley.
- 1:26:38[SPEAKER_01]: It's just top 10 in majors.
- 1:26:40[SPEAKER_01]: That's what he does.
- 1:26:41[SPEAKER_01]: So I like those three don't have to parlay him.
- 1:26:43[SPEAKER_01]: You could do him individually here.
- 1:26:44[SPEAKER_01]: Now we get to some winners.
- 1:26:46[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, this is to make the cut.
- 1:26:47[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, one more.
- 1:26:48[SPEAKER_01]: Matthew Jordan.
- 1:26:50[SPEAKER_02]: You'll see him in just a second.
- 1:26:52[SPEAKER_01]: Don't sleep on this kid.
- 1:26:53[SPEAKER_01]: I should say Katie's 30.
- 1:26:54[SPEAKER_01]: He plays on the European tour.
- 1:26:56[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, also, if your last name is, we'll talk about Harris English.
- 1:26:58[SPEAKER_02]: How do you not finish your last name is English?
- 1:27:00[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, here's English, again, he's had a rough go with the British open, but he finished tied to last year.
- 1:27:08[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to take him, and again, these are not huge.
- 1:27:11[SPEAKER_01]: You can parlay make the cut, though, because that's a bigger sample size, so if you want to do that.
- 1:27:16[SPEAKER_01]: But I really like, Matthew Jordan's one of my favorite ones.
- 1:27:18[SPEAKER_01]: It's just minus 122, and I like here's English to make the cut there.
- 1:27:21[SPEAKER_01]: Now, we get some winners on this one.
- 1:27:22[SPEAKER_01]: Number one, I'm going to go, if it's Patrick, Matt Fitzpatrick.
- 1:27:28[SPEAKER_01]: He's playing well.
- 1:27:29[SPEAKER_01]: There was a stat out there if you don't mind that I could read to you.
- 1:27:33[SPEAKER_01]: The last four winners of the British Open have all finished tied 12 or better in the Scottish Open, which is the week before.
- 1:27:42[SPEAKER_01]: Here are the guys that finished top 12 last year with the trend tells you it's going to be one of these guys.
- 1:27:46[SPEAKER_01]: Tom Kim, who people like Min-Rooley, Johnny Keyfer, Naki-Jama, Robbie Mack, Matt Fitzpatrick, Corey Mack, Roy, Michael Thorpe, Johnson, Seawoo Kim, Victor Perez, Kevin Roy, and Chris Gauderott.
- 1:27:58[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of my thought on Matt Fitzpatrick.
- 1:28:00[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's playing well.
- 1:28:01[SPEAKER_01]: He fits this trend of top 12 the week prior, so go at them.
- 1:28:04[SPEAKER_01]: Justin Rose!
- 1:28:06[SPEAKER_01]: Again, he's the close man very very he's got a US open.
- 1:28:11[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go with him.
- 1:28:12[SPEAKER_01]: Just maybe as a little bit more of a Heart pick here now.
- 1:28:17[SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned one of those other guys Bobby Mac baby.
- 1:28:20[SPEAKER_01]: He was top top 12 the week prior So he fits that and there was another one of Himmelt the open is just really good the driving accuracy is right there and then my long long long long long long long long
- 1:28:36[SPEAKER_01]: Daniel Burr.
- 1:28:37[SPEAKER_02]: Who?
- 1:28:38[SPEAKER_01]: He's been injured.
- 1:28:42[SPEAKER_01]: That's my long shot.
- 1:28:43[SPEAKER_01]: There's one guy that just liked him as as your long play.
- 1:28:45[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe just taking for top 10 if you'd like but those are all gonna be the ones I also don't hate Matthew Jordan to win.
- 1:28:51[SPEAKER_01]: I don't hate him to win either this guy.
- 1:28:53[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the reason I picked him to make the cut He's played in four pretty show open.
- 1:28:57[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not Matthew Jordan.
- 1:28:58[SPEAKER_01]: He's made the cut in the last three.
- 1:29:00[SPEAKER_01]: He said top 10's in the last two So I like him a lot potentially win there enjoy it wake up at three thirty.
- 1:29:05[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be texting if he first ran in up at three you think
- 1:29:08[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
- 1:29:08[SPEAKER_02]: Bruce Drennan, up at 3am.
- 1:29:09[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you had to ask him about that tomorrow.
- 1:29:10[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he like cares for the British children.
- 1:29:12[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't know.
- 1:29:13[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be up.
- 1:29:13[SPEAKER_01]: I just like you because you wake up and watch call.
- 1:29:15[SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna wake up at 3am and watch call.
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- 1:29:24[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
- 1:29:25[SPEAKER_01]: I checked my thing and my going my fan to account Dana burgers and a lead right now.
- 1:29:29[SPEAKER_02]: Is he?
- 1:29:29[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, it starts tomorrow.
- 1:29:32[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying if I wake up.
- 1:29:33[SPEAKER_01]: So here's your I put Daniel burger on a dollar that wins me 300.
- 1:29:37[SPEAKER_01]: See, I guess I'll toss like 200.
- 1:29:41[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I cash out at a hundred.
- 1:29:43[SPEAKER_01]: I did put a dollar on Matthew Jordan when 250.
- 1:29:49[SPEAKER_01]: uh... three on bobby mac um... did i send you rustle henley i did yeah top to i put money on him to win
- 1:29:56[SPEAKER_01]: I put money in him to win too.
- 1:29:58[SPEAKER_01]: So going, and by the way, tokens, a plenty.
- 1:30:01[SPEAKER_01]: I got two of those profit boosts for the soccer today.
- 1:30:04[SPEAKER_01]: We back to the baseball here.
- 1:30:05[SPEAKER_01]: I like this one, so you get a first, we get paid instantly if you're outright winner, Leet, oh my god, how do I not know that?
- 1:30:11[SPEAKER_01]: Do you see that?
- 1:30:13[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen stuff like that.
- 1:30:14[SPEAKER_02]: Like March Madness is a popular one.
- 1:30:15[SPEAKER_01]: Like if your outright winner is leading on the first round, you can be paid out.
- 1:30:22[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, pretty sick.
- 1:30:27[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I did that.
- 1:30:28[SPEAKER_01]: Place another wager there.
- 1:30:28[SPEAKER_02]: Like on Fandle Matt, for March Manus, I did that.
- 1:30:31[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm, oh my gosh, I'm still kicking myself.
- 1:30:34[SPEAKER_02]: They had the promotion.
- 1:30:35[SPEAKER_02]: If your team goes up by 10 points, you get one game.
- 1:30:39[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:30:39[SPEAKER_02]: Caches out right away, even if they lose.
- 1:30:40[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love that.
- 1:30:41[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was like, make knees first.
- 1:30:42[SPEAKER_02]: I think Vanderbilt, I put on make knees.
- 1:30:44[SPEAKER_02]: And I went like, I put like 10 to like 40.
- 1:30:46[SPEAKER_02]: I almost did it for the Duke game when they played the game.
- 1:30:49[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
- 1:30:50[SPEAKER_02]: And they would have, you would have came last year, but by like 51, we out of $200.
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- 1:30:57[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we're back tomorrow.
- 1:30:58[SPEAKER_01]: Drennan's gonna be here.
- 1:30:59[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be here as well.
- 1:31:00[SPEAKER_01]: 12 to 130 every single day right here on the YouTube side of things.
- 1:31:03[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate a big join us for Ryan Todd.
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