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Episode 12- 2025 Racesaver Nationals Champion Carson Bolden · Pushin' the Cushion

• Slim Pushins: What's up everybody? Welcome to what is I'm sure gonna be an exciting episode of Pushin't the Cushion Shop Beers post 305 Nationals in Eagle, Nebraska. Jim broke his cherry out there. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: As always, my co host, the Queen of Fantasy Football, Corby Sherb. And the man on the dials, the guy that put a car into the feature his first time out to Eagle, Jimmy Hollywood Gardner. Jim Gardner: What's happening? I think my internet's Slim Pushins: How was it? Jim Gardner: pretty pretty unstable right now. Hang on just a second. Slim Pushins: That's par for the course. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Sounds about right. Couldn't get anything else to rip all weekend. Corby Scherb: It's definitely not bad weather because it's been it's been warm. Okay. He's dead. Jim Gardner: Yeah, it's not the rain. boy. Slim Pushins: He's gone. Why why don't I don't understand why he doesn't give us some sort of a warning before Corby Scherb: Mm. Slim Pushins: he does this. Like no goodbye. Just like, yeah, think my internet Corby Scherb: Mint. Slim Pushins: He's already had enough of us. Now he's gonna knock and I gotta let him back in. Corby Scherb: Yeah man, Eagle's cool, man. I'm glad that Jimmy got to go up there and have a have a pretty good experience with it all. Nationals is a lot, man. there's a lot of pressure on each and every driver. especially here he comes, so we're all yeah. I I'm glad you got to go up there and experience Eagle and He did, Slim Pushins: We well don't Why don't you at least give us a warning or something? Like hey, I'm gonna Corby Scherb: he he said my my internet's a bit dicey right now. Slim Pushins: Hey, I think my internet's Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: a a little bit di Jim Gardner: I yeah, I I I switched switched networks. I'm good. Slim Pushins: James Horton said Corby Scherb: Yeah, e Slim Pushins: you worked your ass off at Eagle. It's way too early to start giving you kudos before Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Slim Pushins: we we haven't broken you down to build you back up yet. Jim Gardner: it was a labor of it was Slim Pushins: It well D goes, I was shocked to see him. Jim Gardner: it was it was a fun time. It was hot and humid, man. It was like bro, Corby Scherb: I heard it was warm up there this year. Jim Gardner: it was it was soggy. Yeah. The Slim Pushins: I saw y'all had the canopy though. That's a that's a ps lifesaver. Jim Gardner: canopy was the move. Next year we need to take a fan also under the canopy because the air was just kind of really stale all day. Slim Pushins: So here's the question of the day. Corby Scherb: You're kinda in a hole there, like with how the the fence line runs on the back and then you put trailers down there and like how it wraps around, you're you're kind of inside Slim Pushins: Yeah, there's not a ton of breeze. Corby Scherb: of a giant hole there. Jim Gardner: Yeah, we we were thankfully in the kind of back on the second row away from away from all the extracurriculars, which was good. Like we could go participate in extracurriculars if if we wanted to, but we could go be over by ourselves, which you know I'd have lost my mind. being upright on the racetrack. Just so Corby Scherb: I I heard there was I heard there was some happy dads consumed Slim Pushins: That's the most gym comment ever. Corby Scherb: up there. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. There was there was a lot of action up on the front rows. So I missed it all because I was back there getting our car too tight for the main event. So everybody's like, What happened? I don't know. Corby Scherb: Eagle Eagles a lot, man. Eagle Eagles a lot, you know. I I saw the the Ethan Barrow things going around. I'm a huge fan of Ethan. known him for a while. He he's a he's a good guy. but yeah that just boiled over. It looked like there was some underlying issues, so I can't say that who's in the right or who's in the wrong with that, but it's Jim Gardner: Well it Corby Scherb: nationals, you know. Slim Pushins: Was he one of the ones that was fighting? Corby Scherb: Yeah, Ethan's fourteen S. Jim Gardner: That was the one on the track. Yeah. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Slim Pushins: That was a good one too. They usually don't reach that point to where you roll it around Jim Gardner: Did you guys Slim Pushins: on the ground. Jim Gardner: I got booted and switched networks? Bolton is still coming on. He's getting back from from football practice. He's gonna be a little late, but he's yeah, Slim Pushins: Cotillion or something? Jim Gardner: he yeah, he's just gonna pop on. I rode back with him in Braxton for about Corby Scherb: I bet you that was a trip. Jim Gardner: eight man. The three of us solving the world's problems, you know. Corby Scherb: I'm sure. Jim Gardner: The Middle East crisis. I mean, these guys got it figured out and I think they forgot I was back there most of the time and it was just them two being teenage boys and holy smokes. Slim Pushins: me I called Jim and he he sent me he sent me straight to voicemail and then I immediately got a text. He was like I can't hear shit in this car. They're Corby Scherb: Don't you miss teaching? Slim Pushins: listening to like mega metal. I I can't do this. Drake and Jim Gardner: Between just between the qu questionable music and just the talk about girls and god knows what else and I was like it was starting to rub off on me like a guy at work today was asking me something. I went, dead ass, you know. Corby Scherb: Yes Jim Gardner: yeah. I had to catch myself. Like Sam Sam McNorton Wesley's wife texted n in a our group text like homeboy. after the crash and then Wes is like, What the hell is wrong with my wife? She's hanging around Yeah. Slim Pushins: You he's I've never heard her say that in my life. Jim Gardner: And so that was that was an interesting ride home, but it was fun. And they Slim Pushins: You sent us you sent us a picture of Bolden sleeping in the back. Was he using his championship belt to cover his eyes? Jim Gardner: If I had it, I would have slept with it. That's probably the first thing I'm gonna ask him when he hops on here. Corby Scherb: The The sad thing is is like we're we're those old guys now, you know, and cruising back with the the the twenty five champion. Jim Gardner: I don't know, the first night we were Yeah, the the first night we were there, we we all kind of hung out having happy dads after practice for a while and Braxton was ready to go and he's like, Man, we couldn't pay y'all to leave that place. It was two thirty three Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jim Gardner: AM. I was hiding all the happy dads saying we were out of cold ones. Slim Pushins: He he doesn't know you well enough that those those opportunities are not they're few and far between with you wanting to stick around the racetrack. Jim Gardner: That's that that's correct. So yeah. I'm not gonna start saying bet, Tony. I'm I'm really not, but yeah. Slim Pushins: On g on God. Jim Gardner: I heard that stuff a lot. I I was it's a long it was fun ride home. They they were Slim Pushins: He didn't even know what to call it. I heard that stuff. Jim Gardner: Yeah, they were it reminded me of my teaching days and also reminded me why I sell li sell lights now. Slim Pushins: So what'd you what'd you think about the facility? Did you like it? Jim Gardner: the the event was really cool. It it it did have a real big time big event feel, which was awesome. Slim Pushins: It does. Jim Gardner: you know, I I I know I cut you off when you guys were talking about the fights and stuff. It was hot and humid, the days were long, and then you get late Saturday and stuff doesn't go your way, it's very easy for emotions to boil over. even when it's warranted and when it's not, you know, that borrow fight deal on the front stretch. They kind of let the the drivers fight, fight it out for a little bit until the push truck drivers got involved. And then I guess a push-truck driver like pulled one of them off and threw them to the ground to try to end it. Well, then the track security got pissed, got in the push truck driver's face, and then all the push truck drivers quit after the B main. The A main, all the cars were fired off by four-wheelers. And I again Slim Pushins: really? Jim Gardner: I was told this. by Bolden on the way home. Like Bolden was giving me the scoop on all the stuff that was going down because unfortunately he wins the Thursday, which was awesome. It was Corby Scherb: For sure. Jim Gardner: so cool. Slim Pushins: What a great start. Jim Gardner: And and then it kind of came off the rails from there. Their engine just kinda gave up and they they were chasing it. And it was bad news. So his folks left Sunday morning, but he stayed so he could ride back with us and So he was out there and around. He actually helped change our left rear tire. We caught a flat Friday night. you know, cause he was out of it. And you know, we were in the push in the cushion power rankings hot pit during the the the feature on Friday and but he was around the whole time and Slim Pushins: Great name for the hot pit. Jim Gardner: yeah, and you know it was fun. It was fun riding back with him and just eating. I I I've we've been around Carson a lot, but I haven't sat there and and talked to him for a while. He's he's he's a good kid. So the whole place went nuts for him. all of our guys. Slim Pushins: sounds like he appreciated your conversation so much that he went to sleep. Corby Scherb: It's great for the kids. yeah, it's it's huge for the kids, you know, it's huge for Texas. it is good for the Bolden family. it's not that they've struggled this year, but at the same time, you know, they've struggled and they've chased a lot of motor stuff and that was big, man. That that that's you know I text him last year and I remember, like it was yesterday, I I texted him last year, when he won that feature and I said, Dude, that was the that was the biggest win of your life and then he shows up and he does it even bigger this year. So, the kids got a lot of talent. he's got a lot of drive, he's got a whole lot of heart and I I got a lot of respect for him 'cause sa he he's forced to stay in shape with the school sports and stuff like that. So got a lot of respect for that. Yeah. So Jim Gardner: Yeah, he's at football practice right now, is why he's late. So he we were talking, you know, riding back, and Braxton was gonna go out on the lake or something. He's like, What are you gonna do? He's like, I got homework to do. And I was like, Man, talk about getting kicked while you're down. Like, Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jim Gardner: oof. yeah, he's yeah, that's Slim Pushins: Geometry and trigonometry homework. Jim Gardner: right. Yeah. but Slim Pushins: Wes Wesley said not just the left rear. Jim Gardner: Yeah, we had some stuff tore up. It it took we were Corby Scherb: No, Braxton's really good at like not like hurting one thing. It's like fifteen things, any time Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: that he's involved in something stupid like that, you know, Jim Gardner: Yeah. Well we'll get we can get more into that in a bit, but you know, the the hot pit. I got a good story about the hot pit because I got into it with an official, but Corby Scherb: Who would have guessed it? Who would have guessed it? Jim Gardner: but no to to wrap up like the bolden win. So we we practiced and then I was changing some stuff we were gonna practice after the the makeup feature. I wanted to get one more session in. so I I kind of missed the first half of the race and got up there to watch the end. And you know, afterwards I I I was sprinting around and I found Kara and Kara was trying to find a ride to the infield, so we flagged one down for her and it was just awesome. all of the the Texas contingent going ape shit for for the old B two was really good. So but I went Slim Pushins: Brewer made it down there. Jim Gardner: Yeah, Brewer was well, he was in the race, right? He was in the makeup race. He struggled with the motor all weekend too. But so I walked up to their trailer at the end. And there he is. The the Corby Scherb: Look at this. Look at this. Slim Pushins: There he is The champ is in the building. Corby Scherb: Look at that dude. Carson Bolden: What's up? Slim Pushins: Why little? Carson Bolden: god. Slim Pushins: A little disappointed you don't have the belt on. Carson Bolden: She got it right here. Jim Gardner: Show us the belt. Corby Scherb: that's the one, man. Slim Pushins: Did you not wear it to school today? Jim Gardner: Yeah. Carson Bolden: It's right here. I got it within reaching distance right behind me. Corby Scherb: I was just telling them, man, I remember I remember like it was last like it was yesterday, man. I I texted you last year after you won your prelim and I like, dude, that's the biggest race of your whole career you know, and then you show up this year and you just absolutely shut me up and you win it all, you know. It's cool, man. Carson Bolden: Yeah, yeah. Corby Scherb: It it it's rad to see, you know, I remember when you first showed up in a sprint car and you know, it's not It's not negative, but you you were a lapper and within a year Carson Bolden: yeah. Corby Scherb: you figure out, you know, how how to do this stuff and then you show up a couple of years later and you win nationals. So cheers, Carson Bolden: Yeah. Yeah. Corby Scherb: buddy man. I I wanna say it openly, publicly and cheers, buddy man, that's huge. Carson Bolden: I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Jim Gardner: Yeah. do do me a favor and turn your phone sideways. Corby Scherb: here we go with Jimmy. Jim Gardner: Was this n what is this, your first try? You've been on this before. no. Carson Bolden: Well, all y'all are straight, for me, now I'm sideways. Jim Gardner: boy. Corby Scherb: Jimmy, you got it you got it all cooked. Jim Gardner: I might have just messed this up. no. Corby Scherb: Then you you kicked him off. Jim Gardner: No, I didn't kick him out. He's here. He's here. Slim Pushins: He just Carson Bolden: Backstage. there I am. Corby Scherb: There we Slim Pushins: He just jimmied us. All right, turn your phone back like it was. Jim Gardner: Yeah. I don't know. Slim Pushins: This is only like our thirtieth episode. We're gonna figure this Jim Gardner: well. Slim Pushins: we're gonna get this figured out at some point. Jim Gardner: Whatever. It'll be fine. I'll figure it out. Anyway, Slim Pushins: So Jim Gardner: I was I was telling the story after you won. you know, there was the big hoopla, and I walked up to your Carson Bolden: you Jim Gardner: trailer. make sure I saw John and your dad and your mom and give you guys congratulations. And it's when I came Carson Bolden: Yeah. Jim Gardner: to see you. And then so I'm standing out in the trailer talking to your dad, and he was just over the moon, joyful. The problem was Carson Bolden: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Michael Day was pitted right next to y'all, and him and Carson Bolden: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Roger Oaks. so they ran third at RPM two weeks ago, and then they tow the car all the way up to Nebraska and they roll through tech and they're checking valve lift, and the valve lift is only like four hundred thousandths. And so it had flattened the cam. So they had went and found a cam, found some lifters, found some head gaskets, and they rebuilt this whole motor Thursday and couldn't get it to run. Carson Bolden: Thank Jim Gardner: And so I'm standing there talking to your Carson Bolden: you Jim Gardner: dad, not 20 feet away from me, is Michael Day just revving the thing up to about 4,500, and it's sick as a dog. It's blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, this is just how you dreamed it, isn't it, Brian? 364 Carson Bolden: You Jim Gardner: days you've been waiting. Slim Pushins: Ha ha. Jim Gardner: He's like, he's like, Yeah, just like this, you know. Carson Bolden: Yeah. Jim Gardner: but no, it was just awesome. I hate, I hate that your weekend kind of fizzled out. Carson Bolden: Yeah. Jim Gardner: but got Slim Pushins: The highest of highs and the lowest of lows. I if that's not racing I don't know Jim Gardner: w won the war, you know. Carson Bolden: Yeah, exactly. Slim Pushins: what is. Jim Gardner: Yeah, won the war and then, you know, next day is is is the next day. But we're so proud of you, man. Carson Bolden: Yeah. Jim Gardner: You've done s you did such a good job up there. So thanks for the help in the hot pit too Carson Bolden: I really appreciate it. I appreciate that. Thank you. yeah. Corby Scherb: Thanks thanks for doing something big for Texas up there. It's been a while. It's been a while. But since Carson Bolden: Yeah, that's That's been a minute. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Raimi So Carson Bolden: Was that 18? Yeah. Corby Scherb: Yep. So cheers to you man. That that was big. Jim Gardner: Tell tell us about Carson Bolden: Appreciate it. Jim Gardner: how that race went because you know I was telling earlier I I kinda parked in the second row and I missed the first half of the race. but how did that race play Yeah. Good. Carson Bolden: Yeah. Corby Scherb: I just wanna know, you know, like like yeah, like like Jimmy's saying, you know, like what what goes through your mind under cautions in those moments because you're you're with the best three five guys anywhere. Carson Bolden: Yeah, well, I really, to be honest, had no confidence going into the race. I was really down on myself, not confident, not ready. To be honest, I thought we were going to go backwards big time. Practice went horrible. I couldn't find no rhythm, wouldn't run. And really in the feature, I don't feel like it ran the best either, but it ran good enough. But yeah, just... Leading it, you know, have cautions, late race cautions. No, I got beat off the start by both the cars on my outside. I just got a better drive off too. So no, but I've seen Gail in that one lap to my inside and I kind of just drove it at harder than I drove it in all race and it stuck. I mean, yeah, just a lot of emotions while you're racing, especially if leading like that. Corby Scherb: For sure man. And that that hug with your dad there, your first hug was was big, man. I know it doesn't mean anything Carson Bolden: Yeah. Corby Scherb: to you, you're Slim Pushins: We Corby Scherb: just a teenager, but those are big. Yeah. Slim Pushins: We've got that. I was watching at the house by myself. That right there is what about broke me. You're like everybody's little brother and just the emotion that you had on the wing. you could hear your mother crying and yelling, you know, for you Carson Bolden: Yeah. Yeah. Slim Pushins: on the broadcast and then that right there was yeah, like that about I was screaming at the house. My neighbors I'm sure could hear Carson Bolden: Thank Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: We were I was stoked. I'm assuming Corby was stoked too. I don't know where he was. He he wouldn't have dinner with Corby Scherb: For sure, man. For sure, man. Well, Slim Pushins: me. Corby Scherb: you know, I know your mom's gonna kill me for this for not saying that your hug with her was was more important, but man, like seeing you jump into your dad's heart. Your your dad is so like even killed with everything and like you could see Carson Bolden: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: just just the the giant smile, it wasn't just his typical smirk, you know. y you Carson Bolden: Yeah. Corby Scherb: did it man. Like you you won Eagle Nebraska, man, you won nationals, so a huge Carson Bolden: Yeah. Yeah. Jim Gardner: They'll never take it away from you. You'll be on the back Corby Scherb: For sure. Jim Gardner: of the T shirt as past champion for the next thirty years. Corby Scherb: For sure. Jim Gardner: Even though you they ran it a year later. Carson Bolden: Yeah Slim Pushins: yeah, you'll get a you'll get a big banner on the outside of the speedway, I'm sure. Corby Scherb: yeah. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Carson Bolden: I think that's what I was most excited about to be honest. It's the banner. Slim Pushins: Pull it in. Jim Gardner: It's awesome. Yeah. It was Slim Pushins: What y y'all did y'all had like a me did y'all have a media day or was that from last year? Like when they I didn't have when they introduced y'all for that race, everybody had you know, like a like a Carson Bolden: I didn't have anything. All... Yeah, Slim Pushins: photo session, video session. Carson Bolden: Yeah, so on tech day or right before practice, all of the lock-in drivers went in there and they had like a green screen and a camera and it made you do a bunch of like poses and like walk-ups and stuff. So I think everybody got to do one. Slim Pushins: I'm sure you felt stupid doing it, but what Corby Scherb: No, so he's he's a big time, you know, basketball Carson Bolden: 100 % Corby Scherb: player and and all this stuff, but then you get to do it with a fire suit on. it it's it's a game changer like the Carson Bolden: Yeah. It was really like, Slim Pushins: It came out really cool. Carson Bolden: yeah, it was sick. It was sick when it came out. Slim Pushins: Have you watched the replay of the race? Carson Bolden: I have, multiple times. Corby Scherb: I'm sure he's got it saved on his phone at this point. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I was gonna say I was gonna say I I was gonna say I I w you know run second in a heat race and I watch it ten times. I'm forty years old. Carson Bolden: Hahaha! Slim Pushins: Yeah, it was pretty cool, man. We were i it was like one of our own, you know, like I said, you're like everybody's little brother. And to see you with that success. Jim Gardner: I Corby Scherb: I'm gonna say it I'm gonna say it publicly too, you know, you're you're a little line through three and four, man. Absolute I racing line, just absol just the slider Carson Bolden: yeah. Corby Scherb: line every lap. And it worked, man. Carson Bolden: Every single Corby Scherb: J Jimmy swears that the slider line a lot of times in three five's work. It wor it you Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: were honestly the best off of four every lap. Jim Gardner: Well so we Carson Bolden: Yeah, well. Jim Gardner: w Go ahead, go ahead, champ. I'll Carson Bolden: Well, so Jim Gardner: cut you off. Carson Bolden: we We it would like bog down if I tried to park it on the bottom and even in one and two like that's why Everybody else was like right up right against the tires off the ball like off the bottom of two and I was kind of like up kind of in the slick almost and I just try to keep our PMs up and that same thing in three and four like sliding up like I wouldn't enter on the bottom I'd enter kind of like right through the middle almost and slide right to the top and It just really helped keep Will Spin and not like bog down on the bottom. And like there was one point where my dad on a restart, my dad told me go to the bottom and that was when Galeon got up next to me. So I mean, I fixed that. I kind Jim Gardner: Yeah. Carson Bolden: of figured it, I kind of figured it wasn't going to work, but I had to do it to show him it wasn't going to work. Jim Gardner: Yeah. So we we hot lapped after that main event and I you know we I had a game planned with Braxton for practice. I was like, hey, we're gonna do this and this, and then it w in the one session we go out after the the the main, the bottom's gonna be gone. I want I want you to run the bottom, see if we tighten it up enough and things like that. Well, of course, you know, here's the plan. Go run the bottom. Tell you know, I want to see where we're at. First corner he w hits the wall in turn three. on entry just cut scuffs Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jim Gardner: it, rips the top, goes down to turn one, rips the top again. I'm thinking, okay, well he's like, yeah, fat old ma fat old man, I'll show you. And then he went Carson Bolden: If. Jim Gardner: down to the bottom and ran three good laps on the bottom. But they the line in three and four was up on Carson Bolden: you Jim Gardner: the wall, but where where Carson and everybody else had slid themselves, it like took the arc away. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Where the where the natural progression of the top and of the wall, then you like had to take a right with the car to get back up in the into the cushion right off of exit 'cause of 'cause Carson was pounding it with the slider line for thirty five straight laps before that. Carson Bolden: Yeah. Jim Gardner: it just made it a really odd shape for anybody to really roll the top. it was awesome, man. Carson Bolden: Yeah. Corby Scherb: I wish Carson was was old enough to race Devils Bowl, I know that was your dad's place, and that's the only Carson Bolden: Yeah. Corby Scherb: place that really has the elevation change that Nebraska has and just how much different three and four is compared to one and two. You're just going Carson Bolden: Yeah. Corby Scherb: uphill so much and whenever you get to the top of turn one it it's so far up there and it that's the only place I could ever compare it to was what Devil's Bowl was like. Jimmy went for Carson Bolden: Yeah. Corby Scherb: a good ride there. Jim Gardner: Yeah. yeah, I was I was shocked at how much elevation was change was going down the back. because Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Jim Gardner: you're going down into three and four and the tree line is there, and the the tracking one and two just gets beat up by the sun, especially all weekend. it got real, real dry, but it would be heavy and hammered down right in the middle of turn three and four. You got a little afraid to tighten the car up too much. because you could make up so much ground on that down there. it was just it was really unique. I I enjoyed I enjoyed the the whole weekend experience up there. and it Slim Pushins: That that rain rut that rain rut in the middle of the one and two, Carson, you scared the shit out of me early in the day. Everybody was hitting Carson Bolden: yeah. Slim Pushins: it. And you saved it well. you didn't even scrub a whole lot of speed, but that thing was upsetting the cars so bad. and it spun a couple of people out. A couple of people got into each other. but it looked deeper than anything we've got down here. I mean, everybody knows the rut i at Kennedale. but it looked a whole lot worse than that. Corby Scherb: It's weird because I I know Carson can agree with me, like there it feels it feels like you drop into a valley before you come out. So you almost like bounce straight up out the other side of it. It it's Carson Bolden: Well like, I'm sorry, sorry, go ahead. Corby Scherb: No, you're good like it's it's just like it's so wide how deep that rain rud through there that it I don't know, like you almost have to like let off, get on the gas hard and then come out the other side. Go ahead, Carson, you tell us how to do it Carson Bolden: Yeah. Corby Scherb: 'cause clearly you're the nationals champion. Jim Gardner: Ha ha Slim Pushins: Ha ha. Carson Bolden: Well, like in practice, I hit it really bad, like many laps in a row and I could never figure it out. And then finally, like in three and four or in one and two, like I had to enter like right where I above the cushion and like drive across the track is what I was doing. Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Carson Bolden: Or like just drag, so just enough break to be able to get like right through it. But like it formed on the bottom of one and two as well. And I hit it like the first two, three laps really bad. And I finally just wad up my entry and like entered below it and the feature. And I mean, that's what I did for the rest of the 30 or so laps. Slim Pushins: It it looked it looked on the broadcast like to miss it you had to go very, very low or really, really high. Corby Scherb: And y you know, and Jimmy and Carson can both agree with this, you know, it's not that you're just going that low, you're slowing down your entry, you're backing up your corner just to get through there to be able to exit off two. I mean, if you can't make it to the center, you'll never make it to the exit. And so it was cool, man. It it was it was super diverse this year. Slim Pushins: So what's I'm curious coming from a guy that's never raced anything, what what's the move for a rut like that? Is it like do you just have to hit it square with all four tires? Or does that upset the car more? Carson Bolden: Kevin Raimi told me like, don't turn before it, turn, like go through it and then get it set. Like don't set it before the rut, cause then you're just gonna get all upset. Drive through it and then again, get the car turned. Slim Pushins: Well and that that would make sense based on what I what what I was just saying. Like you know, in a in a regular car on the street, if you're hitting it one tire at a time then it upsets the car a whole lot more than just hitting a h hitting it square. so maybe that answers my question. Or maybe I'm not smart enough to know. Corby Scherb: And like Carson said, just you know, using the brakes but in the Jimmy terminology, you know, loading up the suspension before you get there helps a lot. this that that's a place that bump rubbers are really big going through turn three or entering turn three because you're going downhill and bump rubbers kinda hurt you getting through one because you'll you'll be slamming them. I know Carson's super Jim Gardner: Yeah, yeah. It'll o upset it. Corby Scherb: young and there's one day he's gonna look back on this and he's gonna be like, Yep, yep, I understand what he's saying. You Carson Bolden: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Or or yeah. Corby Scherb: got bins over there though, so Jim Gardner: turn three there reminded me a a lot of turn three at Devil's Bowl, where Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: it really sucks you down to the bottom, it looked like. You know, if you weren't really disciplined to kinda hold the car out on the racetrack, it would suck you down and you'd have to kind of multi X point the point the corner. Carson Bolden: So, let's see. Jim Gardner: the place looks fun as hell to drive. I'm sure I could make it look like the toughest track Corby Scherb: It's cool. Jim Gardner: in the country. So Slim Pushins: Ha. Jim Gardner: like I do every Saturday. Carson Bolden: haha Jim Gardner: Like I had, you know, when I was talking to when I was talking to Braxton before the race before practice, I was I had to qualify what I was saying to him. I was like, look, I know I make it look really, really hard every Saturday, but if you do this, I can help you. Yeah. And but like luckily Jeb was down there in our pit and and I could be like, Hey Jeb, go talk to him. You know, you've won a hundred races. So you know, I Corby Scherb: What's it like, man, being the champ, you know, you come home, so you had just like a Cadillac Tuesday, right? Like you didn't have to do anything today, none of that stuff. Carson Bolden: Other than school, Corby Scherb: yeah. Carson Bolden: no, it's sick. I was thinking, most people get to, when they're champs, they get to go enjoy it for a year. I got maybe like 12 hours and it's right back to work. But yeah. Corby Scherb: Right. Slim Pushins: Ha ha. Jim Gardner: That's right. Yeah. Slim Pushins: So what happens I'm curious what happens after you win it? I saw that I guess you got a couple of contingency prizes and stuff. Carson Bolden: Yeah, I mean, kind of just like a, you know, you take a bunch of pictures, take pictures of all the family and then I went back. Didn't do a single thing that night. Just, Jim Gardner: As well, you should. Carson Bolden: I Slim Pushins: Look at that. Carson Bolden: didn't even run race champion like I was supposed to, but. Slim Pushins: Yeah, we Jim Gardner: No. Slim Pushins: saw that. We assumed you were in tech or doing, you know, championship shit. Carson Bolden: I just didn't want to race. was like, okay, we won, we're Corby Scherb: We're done. We're Jim Gardner: Co come come here to do what we had to do. Nothing we don't need all this nonsense and extra laps, especially Carson Bolden: Yeah. Nah, exactly. Jim Gardner: if the motor's not super healthy. You know, you don't want to make it worse for the whole weekend if you could get it figured out, which unfortunately you didn't, but Carson Bolden: Yeah. Jim Gardner: but yeah, it was you know, it I kinda felt bet like 'cause I'd never been there before and to see all the pomp and circumstances of Sunday night with the light show and the people in the crowd with the colored whatever and it was a big to do. You know, they kinda ran that race from last year. They they tried to make it feel as big as it was, but it's still just not the same. And then obviously winning it, you don't get to bask in it. up you know, for two and a half days you're the reigning champ until Danley is now the reigning champ, you know. which Carson Bolden: Yeah. Yeah. Jim Gardner: s which kind of sucks. But we're not gonna make sure we take that away from you. But It it's awesome. You still got the title belt. Did you wear the title belt to bed? Carson Bolden: That night it slept right beside me. It was like all my trophies and everything was sitting around the living room. Jim Gardner: That's awesome. That's awesome. Cor Corby's got a championship Slim Pushins: That's a move. Jim Gardner: belt too, and he he still sleeps with it. Carson Bolden: yeah. Jim Gardner: Ha ha. Corby Scherb: 'Cause now it's like I say, you know, you you do all that and then, you know, sadly like like they're saying, you know, it's kinda it's not pulled away from you but like the prestige is a little bit lower and then you go to school today and you're just a normal kid, you know. Slim Pushins: Just another kid. Corby Scherb: That that was the the the crazy thing about me whenever I grew up in racing and stuff and I could go to school and just just be normal again and then you get to come sit on a podcast where that twelve people watch and be praised again. Jim Gardner: Yeah. I Slim Pushins: Tens of listeners. Jim Gardner: I'm I'm curious, you know, when I grew up racing it was it was hard to follow if you weren't in it, but like how how Carson Bolden: you Jim Gardner: much support, how locked in are you, are are your friends and buddies and and football teammates knowing I guess you missed a game last week, right? With bigger Carson Bolden: Two. Two. Jim Gardner: with bigger fish to fry. Carson Bolden: Yeah. Slim Pushins: yeah, y'all went up there extra early. Corby Scherb: that's right. Yeah. A week early. Jim Gardner: that's right. Yeah. No no no. I like I'm I'm curious like how you know how much you know you walked into school this morning, how much everybody kinda knew what what kind of a big deal you are. Carson Bolden: well this morning kind of. Jim Gardner: 'Cause you're a humble kid, you're not just gonna ram it down everybody's throat. Carson Bolden: Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. I obviously had a bunch of my buddies text me after I posted it. It was posted. Jim Gardner: Mm-hmm. Carson Bolden: No, but no, like one of them, think the lunch lady, she like follows my racing comments and everything. And so she, I want to, go up to get Jim Gardner: That's awesome. Carson Bolden: some, go up to get some lunch and she like screams, yeah. And then she Slim Pushins: Did you get extra French fries? Carson Bolden: She has my, she has my Carsonville t-shirt on and she has my hero card sitting Jim Gardner: Nice. Carson Bolden: right there. She has my hero card sitting right there. So everybody in the lunch line sees it. But no, Jim Gardner: It's awesome. Slim Pushins: That's awesome. Carson Bolden: she, she, she's a big supporter. But yeah, I still had a couple of my friends and my coaches congratulate me today. One of my friends walks around and doesn't even call it by my name anymore. He calls me national champ. So I mean, that's, that's, that's, but yeah, somewhat closest. Jim Gardner: That's that's that's fantastic. That's awesome. Slim Pushins: That's how it's supposed to be. I figured your I figured your phone was going crazy 'cause it took you like Carson Bolden: yeah. Slim Pushins: two or three hours to text me back. I wasn't asleep. I got it the next morning, but I just wanted you know, I just wanted to send you something to let you know. Your mom got back to me. I know she was she was in her fields all night. It was pretty cool. Carson Bolden: Yeah, yeah, no, did. Yeah, it took me. I didn't. I couldn't find my phone after the feature. That was a bad part. Like took me like another 30 minutes. I was just sitting there and looking for I could not find it. And then once I finally found it, I had like. No. no, no. Jim Gardner: Wasn't in your pocket. Wasn't in your pocket, was it? Controlling the Bluetooth traction control that I heard the B Two's got. Carson Bolden: Not that not not an eagle, not an eagle. Slim Pushins: Wesley said some s some kids came up to get Braxton's autograph. Carson wouldn't say anything about winning. Is that true? Corby Scherb: Man, I'm gonna Carson Bolden: What? Corby Scherb: go back go back to what James Horton said right there. the youngest winner. I I need to know on that day, like how old you were and by how many days. Dude, you would probably you're probably gonna be the youngest winner there for a long time. For a long time. Slim Pushins: I would say so. Corby Scherb: You know, I've I've got to see some cool stuff like that in racing and so what what sixteen and Slim Pushins: What are you sixteen in a few months? Corby Scherb: six Carson Bolden: What day that was that would be the fourth wouldn't it? Yeah, Corby Scherb: Yeah, the fourth. Jim Gardner: I figured you would Carson Bolden: so the Jim Gardner: had that the fit yeah, the f the third. The third. I thought you would have had that ingrained in your brain 'cause you had to wait for it for three hundred and sixty four days. Carson Bolden: Yeah, right. Yeah. So that would be the third. Corby Scherb: sixteen and Jim Gardner: We don't need it down to the day. This this is not math class. Carson Bolden: 16 Slim Pushins: Listen, Jim does all the math on the show. Just tell him when your birthday is. Corby Scherb: Buddy, we need it down to the day. I watched I I y'all y'all can y'all can screw off man. I watched Mark Marquez become the youngest winner of Moto G P ever and he took it away from a Texan. So like that that stuff's huge, Slim Pushins: There it is. Corby Scherb: man. Slim Pushins: There's the obligatory motorcycle Carson Bolden: That would be. Slim Pushins: comment of the show. Jim Gardner: Mark that. Carson Bolden: 16 and one month and four days. Jim Gardner: Okay. Slim Pushins: There it is. See Jim, you're not the only one that can do math. Jim Gardner: I was told there would be no math. Well. Carson Bolden: I'm so far behind on math now, speaking of math, my gosh. Slim Pushins: And evidently football. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Don't talk to Jim about math. Carson Bolden: Yeah, that too. Jim Gardner: Yeah. You get jammed up. Carson Bolden: Jim, you can help me with algebra too. Slim Pushins: Jim can tutor you. Jim was a physics. Jim Gardner: Yeah. That's right. You got my number. Corby Scherb: Jim's got it. Just bring just just bring your homework to the racetrack. He'll take Jim Gardner: You get you get jammed up. Corby Scherb: care of it. Jim Gardner: You get jammed up. I'll sort you out on that. It's been a while. Slim Pushins: Jim's always told us that he was Jim's always told us he was a physics teacher and a college quarterback. There's been no proof of any any of those things whatsoever though. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah, 'cause Carson Bolden: What? Corby Scherb: He can tie a tie. He's got that going for him. Jim Gardner: yeah. Yeah. I had to top Slim Pushins: He tied a tie for Tony Stewart. Jim Gardner: I'd I had to do that, yeah. For the for the NHRA banquet. But yeah, so I'm Slim Pushins: We're hey, we're really we're really glad that you could squeeze us in between, you know, the media blitz and New New York City and stuff. Jim Gardner: The Today Show and Sports Center. Yeah. Carson Bolden: gosh. no. Yeah, I missed- Corby Scherb: We were rattling y'all's cage too before you showed up about you and Braxton on the way home just being teenagers and that Carson Bolden: yeah. Corby Scherb: that's the cool thing, man, yeah, just being able to race and and do what you love, but at the same time just be normal. Jim Gardner: I fell asleep and then I woke up to them two. Carson Bolden: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Jim Jim said you taught him a lot on the way home. Y he learned a lot from you and Braxton. Jim Gardner: Well, first, so I I Carson Bolden: Thank you. Jim Gardner: fell asleep riding on the back seat and we were supposed to take thirty five all the way to Ardmore and Ardmore's like an hour from from Uyghurs shop. And so I fell asleep Carson Bolden: Thank Jim Gardner: and I felt the truck kind of downshift and come to a stop and turn left while we were on thirty five. And I woke up and I was kind of looking around. Got got my bearings. I looked at the GPS on the on the dash of the truck and it still said like four and a half hours to go. And I was sitting there thinking, Where the hell are we? And why did we get off the highway? We're in like Carson Bolden: And. Jim Gardner: just south of Stillwater. And Braxton's GPS Carson Bolden: And Braxton's answer was Jim Gardner: sent him to like whatever town there's Netflix murder mystery documentaries set in in in Oklahoma. Slim Pushins: we've been there. Jim and I've been there. Jim Gardner: Yeah. And I was like, We guys, we gotta go. Go back. Like and it took us an hour out of the way with Magellan one and Christopher Slim Pushins: Y'all got lost? Jim Gardner: Columbus up there. Yeah. It was Carson Bolden: Yeah, Corby Scherb: Braxton. Carson Bolden: when we asked Waxson where we were at, he was like, I have no clue just where the GPS took us. And then Jim Gardner: That's a good Braxton impression. Carson Bolden: he called his dad and he was like, no, you should have stayed on 35 or whatever. Jim Gardner: Yeah, right. Yeah. At least he was hard on him. That was pretty funny. Slim Pushins: We had to Carson Bolden: NNNN Slim Pushins: Corby and I had to pull off on a road trip one time coming from somewhere. We had to pull off 'cause he lost a flip flop out the window. Had his feet hanging out. Jim Gardner: Yeah, so that was the first time I fell asleep, and then I fell asleep and we were actually, you know, on the right road going back through Ardmore, and I woke up because Carson and Braxton were bellowing out a duet of Whiskey Myers. Carson Bolden: yeah! Jim Gardner: they were jamming up Carson Bolden: Broken Windows Runaid. Jim Gardner: there. It was the first song that I recognized in nine hours. Everything Slim Pushins: Ha Jim Gardner: else was Everything else was Slim Pushins: Why were they listening to rap, Jim? Jim Gardner: twenty five t years to y sure. It was if that's what they want to call it, Corby Scherb: Like being the shirt shop. Jim Gardner: it was something. I mean that between the music and and calling, you know, talking to Landon Thompson so the three of them could solve the world's problems together. Carson Bolden: you Jim Gardner: I learned a lot. I learned a lot about about who I decide to spend all my time with on Saturday nights. And watch them drive away from Slim Pushins: Well, so I gotta tell this story since we're talking about stopping on the Jim Gardner: me. Slim Pushins: on the side of the road. I I don't know if if anybody knows, but Jeb Sesams and Jim rode up to Eagle together on what? Thursday morning. Jim Gardner: Thursday morning, yeah. Slim Pushins: And Jim had told me Jeb's picking me up at five thirty. Well, Jeb is on a different time zone sometimes than other people, so Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: I called Jim at like six thirty, a solid hour after he was supposed to be picked up. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: And I was like, hey, I just wanna make sure y'all are on the road. He's like, Yep, we're on our first stop and I was like, Huh? And he goes, Yep, we're in Sanger. First bathroom break. And I was like, Y'all are like forty minutes up the road. This is gonna be the longest road trip ever. Jim Gardner: Jeb hat Yeah. It was till four days later. Carson Bolden: Okay. Slim Pushins: Well played, Gardner, well played. Jim Gardner: but yeah, no. It was fun. Corby Scherb: What about so what about a bolden man? Carson Bolden: Thank Corby Scherb: What el what else you got planned for this year? you just gonna just hang it all up and say that I'm done, I'm I'm the champion? Carson Bolden: Well, I Want to go to this weekend probably won't but I want to go to Salina and Eagle Saturday and Sunday, but Unfortunately, it probably won't happen. I don't know if we'll race this weekend Just no motor trying to figure everything out. Don't want to rush anything I Know we're looking Jim Gardner: You still got some O C R S shows, like Carson Bolden: Yeah, we got So I actually, the weekend of that big Kennedale show, I have an OCRS race in Oklahoma. But last time they had to race there, got canceled. So I'm not sure if they're going to race or not. But if not, I'm looking forward to that Kennedale show. But then I got the... Slim Pushins: Well listen, you you gotta at least come out to Grayson County 'cause Jim's gonna need somebody to change her right rear in the middle of the race. He Carson Bolden: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Probably. Slim Pushins: said he said you're pretty good at it. Jim Gardner: Yeah, it was a left rear. It was a left rear. We were in there. Carson Bolden: Yeah? Laugh for it. Jim Gardner: you know, Braxton got got jammed up. We were going to the front. he got jammed up and got hit hard in the left rear and and we were down in the hot pit and I drug all of our shit down there and I'm standing there waiting for him to get pushed back in and and one of the officials, not a Texas official, because I love all those guys, one official is about twelve feet away from me, and he says, Hey! He's screaming at me and I'm like, I'm like, what? And I got the jack, the wheel wrench, and like I'm I'm ready to go. I'm ready for battle. He goes, The hot pit is here where I'm standing. Carson Bolden: hahaha Jim Gardner: You know, like the 10 foot asphalt pad in the lineup shoot. That's the hot pit. But I was twelve feet behind him, like looking around, like, really? You're gonna you're gonna pick this time to to you know to to exert Yeah, and I so I just carried the Slim Pushins: Your authority. Jim Gardner: stuff. I carried the stuff and I stared Corby Scherb: There we go with Jim Gardner. Jim Gardner: at him and I walked right up to his nose and dropped all my stuff. It was like, is this good? And then and then we're getting it, we're getting everything changed. And the the the tech guys are are doing their job, and our racing would not be nearly as good if the tech officials didn't do their job. So I try to cut them some slack, but we're like trying to get this left rear Slim Pushins: Sounds like it. Jim Gardner: changed. We're trying to get this left rear change, and I got one guy reaching in, punching the tire with a derometer. And I got another guy with a magnet Carson Bolden: Yeah. Jim Gardner: trying to get to the inner beadlock bolts on the inside of the wheel while we're trying to fix this. And of course, there's a third official yelling that we got to go time wise. I'm like, you know, elbowing these officials to try to get them out of the way. And then our left side nerf bar was caked in on the on the Pittman arm. And so Wes is sitting there jamming on it and he couldn't get it. So I had to go over there and throw a little bit more ass into it and got it clear, thank God. And we were able to get back out there and finish the race. Couldn't go anywhere. The ladder was blown out of it. the left rear arm was all bent and so the car was evil for him. But at least we made it back out there. I think it c actually gained us a couple spots. So you know, we were worried about points at that moment. But Carson was there. He's Carson Bolden: Cool. Jim Gardner: the one who locked down the left rear tire and Thank God, because if it was somebody I wouldn't have known, I would have had to pick a fight with them too and got it done myself. But Carson Bolden: Well, like I was sitting there holding the new left rear and like Wesley got it got the old one off and like Jim's sitting there by the axle like Acting like he's gonna put a space around or take one off. I'm like, what are you doing? And he was like put it on so I put it on I was like, Jim Gardner: Yeah. Carson Bolden: what was that? Jim Gardner: I was I was seeing red after that official kind of giving me an attitude, but I I kind of used it to my advantage to get that nerf bar off. Man, Slim Pushins: Nobody is surprised by that whatsoever. Jim Gardner: man, just want it bad for these kids, man. You know, like we we want it bad for them. Slim Pushins: Carson, I can tell you this. It's a shame that Corby it's a shame that Corby and I weren't there because we tried to convince Jim to douse you in happy dads when you got back to your to your trailer and he would the he and Jeb refused to waste any happy dads. Corby and I Corby and Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha Slim Pushins: I would have unloaded a cooler of Cor's light all over you. Your mother would have hated us. She wouldn't have talked to us for days. Yeah. Those are Corby Scherb: Your dad would have killed us because your fire suit would be ruined for the rest of its life. Jim Gardner: And if you're and if you're like Corby, you would have forgot to dry clean it and left it in the trailer all winter. Or was that Lucas that did that? Was Logan? Corby Scherb: That was Logan, that was Logan, that was Logan. Slim Pushins: No, Corby's the one that cried all night that he couldn't see out of his eyes 'cause we sprayed him with champagne. Corby Scherb: No, you blew my eyelid open, man. Jim Gardner: I thought that was maybe Luke, yeah. Corby Scherb: Yeah, man, I really wish I was there, Carson. Carson Bolden: you Corby Scherb: that that was huge, man, and I know that I've I've it's not that I'm much in your racing career, but man, I've watched you grow so much and you know, like I said, in in just over a little over a year go from being a lap car at the local races to to winning, you know, Carson Bolden: Okay. Okay. Slim Pushins: Winning nationals. Corby Scherb: nationals. It don't get much better than that. It just shows resilience from you 'cause you guys have chased, you know, car problems, motor problems. Carson Bolden: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Ben's busts his ass and your dad is super smart with this stuff and you just sometimes you just can't buy luck. Carson Bolden: Yeah. Corby Scherb: i it was it was really, really cool man to see it all come together for you. Carson Bolden: I appreciate it. Yeah. Slim Pushins: Your dad would have hated us. We'd have been the ones giving your dad a hug in Victory Lane after the race. Corby Scherb: I would have tackled your dad. I promise you I would have tackled your dad. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Slim Pushins: I'm sure they're listening to the other room. W that that a hundred percent would have happened. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Carson Bolden: I don't know. I know my mom is. She's going to pick up food. I don't know if my dad is. I'll peek at him. Jim Gardner: We could just do it the next time we see at the racetrack. Just come break out of nowhere and just dump it in some s Slim Pushins: That's what I'm talking just twelve pack of coarse light just all over him. Jim Gardner: in some sparkling grape soda or whatever it is. Corby Scherb: Just get ready, bring an extra fire suit. Slim Pushins: Yeah, bring an extra fire suit. It's happening, kid. Jim Gardner: Yeah. man. Yeah, we Corby Scherb: That was one thing that Jim was always big about, you know, be you you win a big race like that or you win a championship, man. It was always about champagne and I promise you by the time that you made it home your fire suit stunk so bad, it's unbearable. 'Cause but we he would buy like a dollar ninety nine bottles of champagne. Slim Pushins: Four ninety nine Mots. Jim Gardner: Andre Andre the cheapest Corby Scherb: Just brutal Slim Pushins: Andre. Jim Gardner: champagne we can find at Walmart and we're getting a dozen of And Yeah, that's right, Jeff. Yeah. Slim Pushins: Jeb knows. We've done it to Jeb too after Corby Scherb: yeah, Jeff got it too. I I I Carson Bolden: Okay. Corby Scherb: think Carson deserves a good good Dowson. We just got we gotta surprise him now. Jim Gardner: chan all right, so yeah. We'll have to find you got yeah. We're Carson Bolden: gosh. Jim Gardner: gonna find you after a race and we're gonna s we're gonna get it in there. anyway. Slim Pushins: Andrew Jim Gardner: Andre. Corby's still got that bottle, I bet. Corby Scherb: yeah, I do. yeah. yeah. Jim Gardner: what else we have? Wait, so Slim Pushins: I've got four of in the house. What else we got going on, fellas? Jim Gardner: Well the the other guys who you know it wasn't all the it it Slim Pushins: yeah, I don't want to sell them short. Jim Gardner: Thursday was the Carson Bolden show, but the rest of the weekend I had a lot of our our guys running well. Landon Thompson wins pre limb night. Slim Pushins: Landon Thompson had a hell of a weekend. Jim Gardner: He won he won Saturday. He was really good. He was really good Sunday. He was in he was in contention up there in the top five and it looks like he Just made a mistake on the bottom on a restart or or kinda got it crossed up and spun out and somebody T bone him, tip over, which I hated for was a big letdown. But I mean, that win Saturday night was huge. huge for our guys. Carson Bolden: Okay. Corby Scherb: I said, I mean Carson di did that last year and so who knows, maybe maybe Landon will bring it back to Texas next year. I'm sure Carson's gonna highly disagree with that, but you know. Jim Gardner: Colby Stubblefield was third in the big show. And I I was so disgusted with how bad our race car was in that main event. I didn't even look at the results. Carson Bolden: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Bruce said Landon got the Mario Kart banana. Jim Gardner: Brewer had an interesting Sunday. Slim Pushins: Brewer Brewer made the broadcast after after Carson's win. Huge hug from Brewer. That's always great to see. P I I think sometimes Jim Gardner: Yep. Yeah. Carson Bolden: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Slim Pushins: that's people don't realize that you are absolute fierce competitors and nobody's going to give each other an inch. But celebrating in in the victories is one of the greatest things about what we all do. that was great to see. He had a he had a horrible night. I think he pulled off, but found A a lot of excitement and a lot of joy in and congratulating you. Corby Scherb: I hope other states are like this and I know Car Carson can agree with me, you know, the the people around Texas, like I know Carson's gonna absolutely bomb me on the last lap to to win the feature, but at the same time, you know, it w if it was reversed, you know, Carson would be the first one to give me a hug after the race. that's the good thing about all of us here from Texas or southern Oklahoma. there there's a huge respect for just seeing people achieve. especially these kids, man. They're like I've said it all year, man, there's just some absolute studs. Carson Bolden: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Yeah, yeah. Corby Scherb: That are kids right now and you know, Carson proved it. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I think I think that was what Slim Pushins: Doublefield was really fast. Carson Bolden: Yeah. Jim Gardner: kept us out till two or three in the morning drinking happy dads was you know, we raced the dog shit out of each other twenty five times a year down here. but you know, up at a race like that where there's w four days in a row, you just get to learning some something about everybody and and getting to talk and hang out and you know Slim Pushins: Well, and that's the only time you can let your hair down is is when the lights start to go out. You've you've Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: been on point all day long and focused Jim Gardner: Mm. Slim Pushins: and and you don't get a chance really to to bullshit and talk to other people and then when you know when that last race ends, that's the opportunity you can, you know, socialize. Carson Bolden: Okay. Jim Gardner: And I think even yeah, and I think even like if we just packed up and went home, we would all be on the chip wired up for two hours, laying in bed, not being able to sleep. I at least that's how I am most race nights. Like I need to sit in the car for a while or yeah, at least have the car ride home to wind down. you know, but you know, I found myself in Roop's pit every night, talking nonsense with him, or I was up with the Estes and Carson Bolden: Okay. Jim Gardner: Speaking of Estes's, DJ Estes had some cool shirts. So his family had these race sprint car Jesus shirts made. And on the back was a picture of him with his heat race winner Slim Pushins: Yeah. Carson Bolden: you Jim Gardner: sign from like last year. And I was like, I'm gonna need that shirt and extra large Slim Pushins: With his long hair. Jim Gardner: stant pronto. Like, make it happen. Slim Pushins: Take my money. Carson Bolden: Hahaha. Jim Gardner: you know, his the kids were all running around with him. So we hung out with them for a while and just shot the you know, shot the breeze, like I said, roops and and hanging out with Raimi and and and Roger Oaks and and and the Boldens and stuff like that. You just don't get that much downtime. Yeah. Corby Scherb: And Brewer and Harman and and and Landon and all these all these people, like I said, you know, th there was a lot of people from Texas that showed up and ran really good. Slim Pushins: Harmon gave it everything he had too. Corby Scherb: For sure, man. Carson Bolden: Arminator Corby Scherb: And yeah, man. Slim Pushins: The Harmonator. He he I'm sure he thinks it was a failed weekend, but he showed a lot of speed. Corby Scherb: That's it, man, that's the Nationals is the most humbling thing that you the only other thing that's more humbling than that is pushing down at the Chili Bowl. That's the only other thing that's more humbling than that. So Carson Bolden: Oof. Oof. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Speaking of pushing down, Jim, tell me what you're I wanna know what you think about the water s the waterfall entry for hot laps. It's a disaster. Jim Gardner: This so I let West Corby Scherb: practice is gnarly there. Carson Bolden: yeah. Jim Gardner: handled handled those duties. thank God because you're right, like it was the hornet's nest, and that's like Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: that's like running fourteenth at RPM, man. It's the dog pound trying to get on the racetrack. And Slim Pushins: It is. I told Corby when Carson Bolden: Ha Slim Pushins: we were out there and I told Rutherford, I was like, listen, you are my brakes. I'm gonna be Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: on the gas until you can't go anymore. And both of them were like ten four. Jim Gardner: Yeah, and then I believe it. I believe it. I mean Corby Scherb: Dude, I've jumped someone's I've jumped someone's left front pushing out for practice there. Jim Gardner: they're shoving shov and it's like it's practice, guys. It's practice. It'll they're gonna let us all go. Corby Scherb: No man, like I said, last Slim Pushins: The problem is if you don't shove, you're Corby Scherb: week you gotta Slim Pushins: never gonna get on. Corby Scherb: you gotta get one Jim Gardner: Yeah, but Corby Scherb: at the beginning, you gotta get one in the middle, and you gotta get one at the end. You gotta know what the racetrack's gonna do and it's hard. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: It it's tough. You gotta be super aggressive just just pushing out for that. Jim Gardner: Right. Slim Pushins: That's all to me, that's all part of the personality of the three five Nationals. It just is what it is. Jim Gardner: Yeah, well it's like we had a little rain delay Sunday Carson Bolden: I'm so happy. Jim Gardner: and right when the rain was out, the first thing they did was get on the PA and be like, Hey, the melon bar's open. All non drivers Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jim Gardner: head to the melon bar and then you wonder why there's fights in the pits and they're like, Yeah, let's get our let's make sure we fill all the downtime by letting people get loaded. Carson Bolden: That's it. Jim Gardner: anyway, but whatever it Slim Pushins: Wesley said we rear ended a push four wheeler in the first session. Carson Bolden: Thank you. Jim Gardner: Sounds about right. yeah, it was I Slim Pushins: Ryder Ryder said more aggressive practice than championship night. That's not that's true. Corby Scherb: Yeah, dude, it is. It's gnarly. Jim Gardner: Yeah, it it's I again that's another reason I I enjoyed parking kinda in that back second row, you know, because if you're up there like off a turn two pitting, you can't get in and out anywhere. It's I don't know. you know, I Slim Pushins: Jim? Corby Scherb: I'm sure but but Brewer and Raimi had the same spot, Slim Pushins: Jim, that's a question for you right there. Corby Scherb: it's kinda down behind one. Slim Pushins: Why did we not get a corndog review? We even had Carson Carson did a corndog review. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. Man, I I tried to I I tried booking qu Carson for a corndog review, but we were Carson Bolden: When? you didn't? Jim Gardner: right after you won. I was like, hey, we're gonna go do a corn Slim Pushins: He was too busy winning. Jim Gardner: Yeah. we talked about it. Carson Bolden: You gotta hit me up the next day. Jim Gardner: Yeah, well the here's the thing is I had all sorts of issues. I had fifty one problems every day. my phone broke on Thursday night. and Like couldn't call my wife, couldn't text anybody and between the Slim Pushins: yeah, we forgot to tell Jim about zero service too. Jim Gardner: Between the Corby Scherb: yeah. Jim Gardner: four of us, I also couldn't get on my race pass to get lap times and that's what I was really concerned about. I was like, I need to know how fast this racetrack is. so like Slim Pushins: Dude, there's so little service out there. I couldn't even stream music. Jim Gardner: My service was fine, but my screen wouldn't turn on. And then so I had to get up like first thing Friday or Saturday and went to T Mobile and walked in there and it was just two workers and seventeen people holiday weekend getting new phones and we just didn't have time for it. And then so I ended up having to go get one. It took me three days to find like to find the time to go get a phone. They didn't even program it. And It was a mess. So we were kind of running behind, you know, then we had damage and Slim Pushins: All right. Carson, this question's for you. Carson Bolden: you Slim Pushins: Jim hit on this before you got on, but he said you had the deets. Isn't that what you kids say? DEETS? Jim Gardner: Yeah. Carson Bolden: I've never said Deet's my life, but you do your Kerbo. You do your Kerbo. Jim Gardner: No n no cap. So Slim Pushins: What happened? What was the deal with the push trucks? Carson Bolden: so the, Josh Riggins and Ethan Barrow fight, they got into it on the race track. Jim Gardner: I didn't Yeah, I didn't pull that video, but that video's out there. It looked like a pretty hefty brawl. I missed it. I I didn't watch any of those, but Carson Bolden: Yeah, so, borrow's over there parked by like we're Carney parks over there. kind of on the back stretch almost. and yeah, and, Jim Gardner: Yeah, right right off the lineup shoot. Yeah. Carson Bolden: Reagan's is over there parked like right by we park like right in the middle of one and two almost. and borrow, they take his car to the trailer and we're all sitting there watching and all of sudden you see him. stomping his way over there to rigging his car and so like like naturally we all get up and go follow him and so the push chuck drivers were like trying to help break up the fight and one of them I don't know why they were up there but one of them grabbed one of them somebody off of somebody and like kind of I don't feel like they meant to but kind of like almost put him in a choke hold and pushed him down and The police got mad at the push truck driver and said, you're trying to, you can't do that. And they were like, we're just trying to help. then I guess they, one of them left and cause they got in trouble and then all of them left and then they were left with one. That was the whole rundown. So one of them left and all of them left. So Jim Gardner: And then and then they just did they recruit four wheelers or they had big four wheel wheelers? Because Braxton got hooked. You Carson Bolden: I guess they had full reload. Jim Gardner: know, Braxton was like, I got hooked pushing for the A main. He's like, I didn't understand what happened. Yeah. Slim Pushins: Really? Carson Bolden: Yeah, they had four wheelers and side by sides. Jim Gardner: Yeah. But Slim Pushins: Clearly they didn't go to the slim push in sprint car push in junior college. Jim Gardner: Kerbo, you just got real loud. Corby Scherb: Yeah, your microphone just went junk. Slim Pushins: I don't know what that means. Jim Gardner: Mm-hmm. Slim Pushins: Is it still junk? Corby Scherb: It's shit. It's cooked. Jim Gardner: It's fine. You're all right. Slim Pushins: It's we're dead. Corby Scherb: We're dead. Slim Pushins: La Jim, this is for you. They only had one AC unit in the trailer, so his weekend was hot and no phone. Carson Bolden: Yeah Jim Gardner: Yeah, we're pretty I don't think I'm ever gonna get Wes to pit out of my trailer ever again. It's like here's a twelve inch fan. but no, we were we were down there Slim Pushins: It's not the same. Jim Gardner: we were back there with Landon and and Landon's car owner was sleeping in a tent outside their trailer, his like eighteen foot trailer. Yeah. Like they that they Slim Pushins: Like all weekend? Like that was his hotel room, a tenth? Jim Gardner: had like a twenty foot trailer. It was awesome. It was it's so cool to watch him haul ass and and win that race Saturday. And then the you know the car owner unzips his tent you know, to to retire for the night and we're sitting there drinking happy dads like Carson Bolden: Okay. Jim Gardner: I I don't know. It it was awesome. But yeah. Yeah, it cause it was Slim Pushins: That's that's aggressive. I couldn't do it. Jim Gardner: hot and it was humid. Corby Scherb: It was I heard it was really warm up there this year. Jim Gardner: Yeah, it was it was bad news. Thank God we had that A C or else our recovery each day. Slim Pushins: Carson, was it hotter this year than it was last year? Well, Carson Bolden: Definitely. Slim Pushins: last year it rained, never mind. Carson Bolden: Yeah, that was, yeah. But no, like, Slim Pushins: Well Carson Bolden: we were in South Dakota and we went to Mount Rushmore and Crazy Horse and everything over there and it was like 70 degrees, it was so nice. Like, the weather was amazing. Jim Gardner: It got the the rain the rain passed through they actually had a rain delay, I think, during the seas and the rain came through and there was a huge storm that barely missed us. It came from the north and and missed us by maybe two miles and Corby Scherb: Honestly, I'm gonna like hold on before you say all that. Like I was praying that it rained it out so that Carson gets to live for the year of being that champ on Slim Pushins: Another yeah. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Another three hundred and sixty three days. Jim Gardner: yeah, but it barely it kind of spit at us and they you know they had to delay the race a couple of times. We ended up loading everything. and then it got it was it was cold for the main event. Like it it was two f two two thousand feet of air change in in about an hour and we were all thrashing to change our fuel system. Slim Pushins: Wait, like Corby cold or like legit cold? Jim Gardner: It was just chilly. I mean, I didn't Corby Scherb: What do we call this? Less less than seventy five. Jim Gardner: it was it was about that. Yeah, I mean there were people wearing hoodies. Corby Scherb: Hoodie on. yeah, I definitely had a winter Jim Gardner: Yeah, definitely and hoodies. Corby Scherb: jacket on. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: So Jim, you mentioned something the other day and I didn't I I I don't even know if you knew that I caught it. But speaking of brewer, you told me you told me that the winner of Jell O Wrestling had a brewer T shirt on. Jim Gardner: I I heard no no no I heard one of the bouts was won by a brewer t shirt, which yeah, yeah. So Slim Pushins: A brewer fan? That's par. Corby Scherb: I'd believe that Jim Gardner: and then another one was yakking in a trash barrel in between rounds is Slim Pushins: Landon said if it would have rained out I wouldn't have slipped on that banana in one and two. Landon, it was a good interview Carson Bolden: Okay. Jim Gardner: Yeah. You need a little bit more grip there. Slim Pushins: though. I d I clearly I knew that you were upset and heartbroken, but it you gave a good interview after that. And you clearly didn't Jim Gardner: Yeah. We we we we hunt Slim Pushins: want to give an interview, but good for you. Jim Gardner: Yeah, he he yeah, I've Slim Pushins: Brewer said we rep in everywhere we go. Jim Gardner: yeah, he Slim Pushins: Twenty twenty six Carson Bolden: Thank Slim Pushins: Jell O Wrestling Champion. Jim Gardner: Yeah. yeah, Landon Landon had a he was back there pitted with us. We got to hang out with him a lot. He he's really we've said it on the podcast all year. He's had a really good year. He's been really impressive and just get to talk talk race cars with him and set up stuff and and yeah, I'm I was really impressed by him. and again, don't really get to spend time with anybody outside of the racetrack. you know, so to just sit there and talk with talk shop with a kid for thirty minutes and he's got it going on. So a bunch of young gassers, Jeb and I were riding back to the hotel going, I think we'll I think we should maybe not help these kids that much. Like we got to deal with them next week. Like he's like, Carson Bolden: Okay. Jim Gardner: you know, we we made some big gains with with Braxton. We felt like, you know, and and you know, helping Landon, you know, because Landon was was has a different in a different race car than his normal race car and was kind of asking some some different stuff. And I was like, man, we gotta kinda deal with these kids. Carson Bolden: Okay. Jim Gardner: Weekly. Like this is gonna be tough. Slim Pushins: So, Jim, here's the big question. Landon wants to juice up my diesel. Would you let him under the hood of my truck? Jim Gardner: I've heard so Jordan Root, we were down Carson Bolden: you Jim Gardner: there in his pit a bunch. His his trailer was right in the middle of of my trailer or our trailer in the racetrack. So so we just got down there and would check in on him and see how he was doing. So we were down there. He is a a hard lemonade guy and we brought the hard seltzers. We did a you know, a little swap there. Yeah, Carson Bolden: Okay. Slim Pushins: You swap did you do a Jim Gardner: which a little taste test swap. He's like, let me try that. That's pretty good. And but we were hanging out with him and his dad a bunch and and and Jeb and I were kinda trying to help him a little bit. And he said that all their trucks landing has tuned up and deleted and and got going good. And he said he does really good work. Yeah. Slim Pushins: I don't know if you can say that part publicly. Corby Scherb: It's hard to say all that. I mean i i Carson's dad, that's what he does too. He fixes people who screwed up like Landon. Jim Gardner: Well, fair enough. Slim Pushins: Landis Lana said I could make shoot flames. That's what I need on the way to to work every day, just shooting flames. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Carson Bolden: Okay. Jim Gardner: L Landon, can you install Corby Scherb: Talking about you know, I I'm gonna bring up something that's like super off the wall, but you know, you're talking about, you know, how l Jim Gardner: can you install the body bolts? Slim Pushins: Yeah. You don't even have to take mine off, they're gone. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: well, how l how you're saying that Lana showed up and drove a different car. You know, Carson, you drive an older chassis. Y'all have a new one Carson Bolden: Yep. Corby Scherb: and it's it's is it true that you prefer the one that you I guess learned how to drive through a fives in? Carson Bolden: So last year... no, no, if you ask Benz we should be taking the triple X. Corby Scherb: Or is Ben's forcing you to drive that? For sure. Jim Gardner: What is that old car? Carson Bolden: VFR Jim Gardner: Okay. Carson Bolden: You know what that stands for? Very Fast Race Car Corby Scherb: It worked. Jim Gardner: It's unique. The steering is like I looked in it, the steering's all rolled back. It looks like a top fuel dragster in there. Carson Bolden: Yeah, so last year when we crashed with Four Eagle, that car got bent on the lower rails and there was about like an eight inch crack in the bottom of it. So we got it fixed and it really, obviously with the motor problems this year, we've struggled whatsoever and we really haven't had any chance to... work on the chassis. Like it's just been straight, like trying to get it to run, trying to get it to run. like we haven't really noticed, but like that, car acts completely different than it did last year. Like I feel like it's a lot more almost stiff. felt like, Slim Pushins: How did it act while you were standing on top of it holding that belt? Pretty good? Carson Bolden: well I slipped and that really hurt, but I mean... Nah, nah, Jim Gardner: So I p wh Carson Bolden: it was cool. Jim Gardner: while while you're talking about it, I did pull this video from your Facebook. so first Slim Pushins: Look at that! Jim Gardner: of all, who made it? 'Cause it's badass. I've never f felt as bad Corby Scherb: Probably Carson. Jim Gardner: big of a badass as you look in this. Carson Bolden: I didn't make it Slim Pushins: Make what? What are we talking about? Carson Bolden: the Jim Gardner: This video that I'm playing Carson Bolden: video. Jim Gardner: right now. Slim Pushins: N somebody it looks like somebody just edited the broadcast. Or is that a home Carson Bolden: No, that was a Jim Gardner: is that what is that? Carson Bolden: video. His name's Ben, he works for Eagle. He did a lot of stuff this week. It was a pretty sick video, I thought. Jim Gardner: Well Well tell I apologize Slim Pushins: Listen. Jim Gardner: for the copyright violation. Please don't sue me. Carson Bolden: Hahaha. Slim Pushins: Carson, if you don't if you don't make a poster size picture of you standing on the wing holding that belt up, hung in your room, there's something wrong with you. Like that Carson Bolden: I know, I- Slim Pushins: that's a cool video. It's a r it would make a awesome picture. Who are these people? Carson Bolden: Yeah, that is Bobby Roberts and Trayton Roberts. Trayton Roberts is my little buddy. They're from Nebraska. Slim Pushins: Okay. nice. Carson Bolden: Yep. Jim Gardner: Yeah. It Slim Pushins: Who alright, I I wanted to ask this too. That last part of that video reminded me. A at the very Jim Gardner: Play it again. Slim Pushins: at the very end you went up into the into the front stretch stands. Did somebody tell you to Carson Bolden: Yeah, Slim Pushins: do that? Carson Bolden: yeah, yeah, Slim Pushins: That was pretty cool. Carson Bolden: they just told me to up there and kind of like raise it above my head and just yeah, yeah, Slim Pushins: Just be an all round badass up there? Carson Bolden: be excited. But yeah, no, that was sick. Slim Pushins: Jim Jim, James Horton said that needs to be on a shirt. Let's do that. Carson Bolden: That would be cool. That would be cool. Jim Gardner: Yeah, we we'll try to figure that out. Slim Pushins: Let's Carson Bolden: Yeah. Slim Pushins: let's do that with him holding the belt on top of that wing with fireworks going off behind him. I know a Jim Gardner: Okay. Well, I'll get right on that. Slim Pushins: guy, Carson. I know a guy that's really good at this stuff. Look at that. Corby Scherb: Yes. Carson Bolden: Yeah, I do too. Yeah. Slim Pushins: Look at Brewer. Brewer doesn't like people to know he's got a soft side. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Carson Bolden: Yeah. Jim Gardner: No. That the Slim Pushins: Yeah, right after this right after this he gives a few hugs. The slow motion was what gets me. That's awesome. Look, so he goes Carson Bolden: Yeah. Slim Pushins: up into the front stretch there. Jim Gardner: I I think I cut it off because it's like three minutes long. But yeah. Carson Bolden: Yeah. Jim Gardner: The the the wing dance was awesome. Fireworks and the belt and the emotion. It was like I said, I don't think I've ever dreamt of looking Carson Bolden: I- I- Yeah. Jim Gardner: that cool in my life. Carson Bolden: That was, you know, coming up to this race, that was probably one of the most reasons I wanted to win. Just to be able to get on the wing with fireworks and stuff with the belt. was fun. I was so excited at that point. Slim Pushins: Well, mission accomplished. Carson Bolden: I was so excited at that point. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Do you remember do you remember the twenty minutes after getting out of the car or is d is it all just kind of a blur? Carson Bolden: I do. remember the photographer being very, I don't know what the word is, kind of, Slim Pushins: Directive? Carson Bolden: yeah, very, very, Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Carson Bolden: not throwing any shame to him, he's doing his job, but he was very bossy almost. Jim Gardner: But it's it's just like I was yeah, talking about the officials earlier. Like they're doing their job. It's just n you're like, Okay, like I got it, you know. Carson Bolden: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Jim Gardner: anyway, that's awesome. Carson Bolden: Nah, it was cool. It was cool in victory lane with all the contingencies and all that stuff. Jim Gardner: yeah, man. Well Slim Pushins: What else do we have? We gotta get through some stuff. Jim Gardner: well so this this is about so we're at an hour in, Carson. I know you are are a follower of the pod. This is where we get into the whatever nonsense that Kerbo found on the internet this week. Corby Scherb: I thought we were just gonna talk about this weekend 'cause I heard I heard Jim's gonna pull the fifty one back out and go try to prove his dominance at Grayson. And hopefully Jim Gardner: It's a w yeah. Corby Scherb: Carson's there to to talk him off the ledge as he turns the wing around backwards and puts reverse Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: split in it or something like that. Carson Bolden: Right. Jim Gardner: No, I Ramey gave me a good pep talk last week. R Ramey Corby Scherb: I mean if you need me to br right, if you need me to bring my fire suit, I can. Carson Bolden: you Jim Gardner: Okay. Yeah, go ahead and go ahead and just in case the the only the only nut we have to replace is the one behind the wheel. But yeah, no Ramey gave me Slim Pushins: Ooh, well played. Jim Gardner: called me on Monday or Tuesday last week and gave me a pep talk about what I'm doing with my race car. He's like man, it just It it looks you know h how eloquently he said it. he's like, It looks Slim Pushins: Ha ha. Jim Gardner: like shit. What are you doing? I was like, Carson Bolden: You Jim Gardner: How did you even watch me? He goes, I was gonna lap you. And I was like I was Carson Bolden: I knew. Jim Gardner: like, That's true. But yeah, we're gonna I'm gonna go to Grayson County. you know, I know West Cranfield was texting me today, you know, trying to figure out who who I thought was going. and so we'll see. Hopefully they get a good pretty good car count. Slim Pushins: Grayson County this weekend. Jim Gardner: This this date Slim Pushins: Boyd Boyd added sprint cars to to the the ticket. Jim Gardner: Yeah. I I think that's on top of an RPM show though in October. Slim Pushins: Is it? Jim Gardner: Yeah. I think they didn't think that one through, but you know, is what it is. Slim Pushins: I think they had a hole though. Jim Gardner: Yeah, something. But Slim Pushins: Like cancelled something and Jim Gardner: I'll do the the schedule release. I'll look at it. I just I kind of ran out of time after our detour last Slim Pushins: Hey, are you gonna do the corndog review with dirt neck Joe too? We've I forgot all about that. Sorry, Joe. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I'll post that. It's been yeah, it's yeah, it's it it's just on the back burner. between between the last minute decision. Well Slim Pushins: You act like you've been busy You act like you've been busy the last four or five days. Corby Scherb: Carson wasn't involved. Jim Gardner: so I I was not gonna go to Slim Pushins: Andy said boyd's October second. Jim Gardner: Okay, so maybe it's not. maybe I misread that. Slim Pushins: Just making shit up. Jim Gardner: But yeah, sorry. It's sorry to trash Boyd, I didn't mean to do that. but Slim Pushins: We don't hate the whole show doesn't hate you, Boyd. It's Carson Bolden: Hey, Slim Pushins: just Jim. Carson Bolden: on the way home at the gas station there was corndogs. I told Jim he had a corndog right here. He Jim Gardner: Yeah. No. Carson Bolden: ignored me. I mean, I gave him opportunity. Corby Scherb: typical. Slim Pushins: Jim, what you don't understand is the fact that Carson's willing to do this Jim Gardner: If if you wanna know what my s physical state was on the ride home yesterday, I went you got corn Carson Bolden: Okay. Jim Gardner: dogs and I bought two bananas and a water. 'Cause I was hurtin'. Hurtin' bad. You'll you'll get old someday. Slim Pushins: Carson doesn't eat anything. He's the most picky eater that Carson Bolden: Thanks Slim Pushins: I know, Carson Bolden: for watching. Slim Pushins: and he's willing to do a corndog Corby Scherb: Plain dry. Slim Pushins: challenge. Corby Scherb: Plain dry everything. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. Carson Bolden: Yeah, I got, I got. Slim Pushins: I mean even Corby even Corby shed all the breading off of his. Y'all will see that if Jim ever gets it released. He Corby agreed to do a corn Jim Gardner: So Yeah, I'll I'll work on that later, but between Slim Pushins: dog review with us, but he took off all the cornbread. The corn off the dog, just wiener. Jim Gardner: But between between between backing it between backing it up at R RPM two weeks ago and being disgruntled about that. And I wasn't even planning on going to Eagle till about Monday. Wesley finally broke me down and was like, You need to go. And luckily Jeb Jeb just wanted to go. And so he texted me, he's like, Hey, you going to Eagle? And I was like, No, I don't think so. He goes, Well, if you do, call me 'cause I'll come up. Carson Bolden: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Does he sound like that, Corby? Corby Scherb: yeah he does. Jebby? yeah. Jim Gardner: And and so, Slim Pushins: gempster. Jim Gardner: you know, Jeb picking me up Thursday allowed me to kind of skip two days two nights of of being away from from my kid who's who's starting to figure sleeping out, thank God. and that really you know, we pulled in thirty minutes before practice started Thursday. So I had I got to miss tech and all that other nonsense. And so it was a real last minute decision for me to go. Carson Bolden: I'm sorry. Slim Pushins: Hey, did either Corby Scherb: You missed a lot missing tech. Jim Gardner: Yeah. But Slim Pushins: Did either of y'all get a chance to talk to Carney? Is d Taco Casa's not paying for his haircuts anymore? Carson Bolden: Yeah Jim Gardner: I didn't talk to John. I talked to Aaron Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: for quite a bit. Slim Pushins: Jeb said, hold on. Jeb said, that's not how I talk. Actually he said, Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Slim Pushins: actually Jeb said, that's not how I talk. Jim Gardner: You know, the the one phrase I heard from Jeb the most this weekend was I'm on vacation as he's grabbing multiple happy dads out of the cooler. He does I'll give him credit, he does not violate my cooler policy. he always grabs multiples while he's in in there. You know, Corby will just grab one for himself, but Slim Pushins: No, he'll get you one. Jeb the entire four days The Corby Scherb: absolutely. Slim Pushins: entire four days y'all were gone. I literally got one text from Jeb and it was a picture from the porta potty. He took it I didn't even know Jeb's so Jim Gardner: Just stop there. Slim Pushins: Jeb's so damn tall, I didn't even know porta potties had vents. He was eye Carson Bolden: man. Slim Pushins: to eye with a vent and a porta potty watching a watching a heat race. That's that's all I got was a picture. Jim Gardner: Yeah. But but yeah, Jeff just Slim Pushins: Through the vent. Corby, do you know they had vents? Corby Scherb: No buddy, I'm not that tall. I'm I'm kinda in the Carson in the Carson boat there. God didn't bless me with height. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: We don't have that rider LePlant problem. Jim Gardner: Yeah, he probably Slim Pushins: No. Jim Gardner: has to duck in a porta potty. I bet it sucks. Slim Pushins: I bet he does. That's why I hate Jeb. Jim Gardner: what else nonsense Corby Scherb: We fit just fine inside of a sprint car. We're short. We're low to the ground. Jim Gardner: happened? So Slim Pushins: Well, I fit in a I fit in a porta potty just fine by height, but I gotta go in sideways sometimes. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Slim Pushins: Depending on the door. Carson Bolden: Okay. Jim Gardner: I had a lot of people Corby Scherb: You need the Cadillac, don't you? You need the Cadillac, porta hitter. Slim Pushins: Shut up, Carson, that's not funny. Jim Gardner: I had a lot of people ask why we didn't have a personal message on the video board. you could you for f yeah, Slim Pushins: Pushing the cushion personal message. Corby Scherb: Kerbo's fault. I told him to do it. Kerbo's fault. Jim Gardner: but Shayley Bade did Slim Pushins: Look at that. Jim Gardner: have something on Corby Scherb: The Queen Shayley Bade. Jim Gardner: it. yeah, we saw that come up. That was funny. I like to see people with a good sense of humor on there. Slim Pushins: I you know, there was I expected to see more tire more tire talk on that board. But I can tell you this was this was in my notes. Jim Gardner: Yeah, just Hoosier sucks, Ray Saver sucks. Slim Pushins: There was a lot of post race comments about tires. A lot. Yeah. Jim Gardner: When just people were taking shots. Our tires, we we didn't really burn up tires. I ran the same left rear tire on Braxton's car, I think six straight like sessions, heat race. Yeah. No, it it I mean, I'm just talking in general. Slim Pushins: No, not about not about burning up. About the tired the race saver tired abacle. Jim Gardner: No, I understand that, but like the the track in general did not eat up our tires at all. We even had two or three laps where it started taking rubber in one of our heat races, and it it didn't really chop them up, but yeah. Carson Bolden: Okay. Jim Gardner: The the Hoosier versus Race Saber deal where they went back and forth. You know, Power Eye posts that they're gonna start a new series and then Race Saber posts that they're Slim Pushins: Hours later. Jim Gardner: yeah, they're backing off. And we kind of talked to Raimi a little bit about it and I kinda kinda wait to see still how it shakes out before really wanna get in and express my thoughts on it. I talked with a couple of the officials about it and everybody's just real frustrated. Everybody's they're they're each on their own agenda. And it'll get sorted out. You know, there's there's a middle ground to be Slim Pushins: Sounds like it's sorted. Jim Gardner: had. Yeah, I guess. But I don't think that's probably the end of it. I think it's maybe just kicking the can down the road a a little bit more, but we'll see. but yeah, there was definitely a lot of tire talk out there. And I even saw like guys who are raceaber distributors on Hoosiers, and you're like, Mm, okay, what are we doing here? so I don't know, but Carson Bolden: Okay. Slim Pushins: Yes, Roger. Slim is still team team Hoosier. Carson Bolden: I'm most concerned how Jim just said he ran the same tire for six races. Holy... Can it- can- can- I can never imagine Corby Scherb: Pretty impressive. Benz would never allow that. Jim Gardner: We we we cut it up Carson Bolden: how hot that thing got. Jim Gardner: we cut it Corby Scherb: Right. Jim Gardner: up and we grind it. Put it back on. It was good to go. Slim Pushins: Jeb got in Braxton car Braxton's car all the way in. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. Carson Bolden: Yeah, I'll wear my Burl Max over there. He was over there sitting pumping the brakes. Jim Gardner: Yeah, well he had to take the insert out. Had to take the insert out, but he got in there to help help us pump the brakes and bleed them up because Slim Pushins: Well I Braxton weighs like ninety pounds. Jim Gardner: Yeah, well Jeb's Jeb's big, but he's tall. Corby Scherb: Just tall and lanky. Jim Gardner: It's it doesn't pile on in the middle section like it does for me and you. So but yeah, he got in it and helped bleed some brakes. We fought some brake issues early and and had to go to work on that, which is my favorite thing to do. Carson Bolden: Thank Slim Pushins: Savannah's got some one liners. Sounds like that. Sounds like it's about the only thing he did all weekend. Jim Gardner: That's not true. Jeb was was a big help for us down there. Jeb is Slim Pushins: Savannah, did you get the porta potty picture too? Jim Gardner: Jeb you know, I I've got to be around Jeb a while. but Jeb Jeb and Braxton hit it off like two P's in a pod because they're both wheels off in different ways. But you know, Jeb really has a good understanding of Slim Pushins: Yeah but Jeb said pure muscle. Jim Gardner: Of not Carson Bolden: you Jim Gardner: only how the changes make a race car feel, but then what the driver's got to do to do it. And you know, I I can try to talk to Braxton about it, but again, he outruns me by 10 spots every week. Like what am I going to teach him? You know, and so Jeb has got Jeb has got a really hit his ass talks to his head really, really well. he can feel the Carson Bolden: Okay. Okay. Slim Pushins: What in the hell does that mean? Jim Gardner: He like what he feels he can get Corby Scherb: You can feel it, you can feel it. Jim Gardner: to his head to actually like explain what's going on. He he has got nuance. He's got a better ass than I do. Corby's got a better ass than I do. Carson does. Like you you you have to be able to feel it. You you have Carson Bolden: Okay. Slim Pushins: Save that. One hour and sixteen minutes in. Save the hell out of that. Jim Gardner: you have to be able to feel it, and then you have to be able to translate it. And you know, Jeb, Jeb has enough nuance to be able to tell when stagger's off or when bars are off or when shocks are off. not just the car is doing this or doing that. He he has a an elevated sense of of how to fix it. So you know it it was a really awesome having them up. And then he's just wheels off like the entire time after the race with the with the happy dads. So it was it was good. I'm glad he drove me up. It was great. And I I sat in the passenger seat and sold lights the whole time instead of driving. So Carson Bolden: Okay. Okay. Slim Pushins: You told me earlier you drove all the way up. Jim Gardner: Now he drove all the way up. Slim Pushins: Corby? Is that what he said? Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: I don't know. Wasn't paying attention. Jim Gardner: we got anything else? Anything else crazy happen? Slim Pushins: Tony said I understood Jimmy there about ass because I'm old. Jim Gardner: You're great race car drivers have a great S. They can feel they can feel what what the car's doing. Carson Bolden: So. Slim Pushins: You don't have to have feet. You don't feel by with your feet too? Jim Gardner: it you you don't feel Corby Scherb: it's not you you you do with your feet. Jim Gardner: it in your feet, you feel it in your ass. Corby Scherb: Carson's even young and he'll know this. Like you you can only do so much with your hands and your feet. you gotta feel it. You gotta know where too far is, where not enough is and you know where you made a mistake. see there Jim Gardner: I'll tell you. Corby Scherb: we go. Landon's on the honey packs now Slim Pushins: Are you kidding me? Corby Scherb: at Carson. I don't know if you're on yet. Dude, these honey stinger packs, dude, they are game changers, bro. Jim Gardner: We were running low on 'cause Wes and I were hammering through those during the day. Corby Scherb: They are they are game changers dude. I know I was I was big on Carson Slim Pushins: She bought like three cases of those. Jim Gardner: They're about gone. Corby Scherb: about the the the Gatorade P Carson Bolden: yeah, the PD lights. Corby Scherb: yeah, the Gatorade Pites. these honey packs, man, they're even better. Even better. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: It it's like it doesn't fill you up, it's just a tiny little pack and they don't taste bad but they they truly do help. I I made Jimmy not have a nosebleed anymore and I helped Cars or Braxton with arm pump, so Jim Gardner: I'll tell you I'll tell you what, I got I was so disgusted with myself and how tight our race car was for that main event when they rained out the bottom and it just was a high speed parade. And I was so furious with myself. I had the biggest nosebleed sitting on top of that mule on Sunday night. I was disgusted with myself for missing it. Slim Pushins: You got you got Jeb on board now with the honey packs too? Carson Bolden: Okay. Corby Scherb: Dude, they're huge, man. They're huge. I got I apparently Carson hasn't had one yet, but they're they're Carson Bolden: I tried one at RPM. wasn't I was not a Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: They're Corby Scherb: that's right, you did, you did. They're not bad. They Slim Pushins: not Carson, they're not bad, are they? They're just r it's really rich. Corby Scherb: just they th Carson Bolden: It wasn't bad. Corby Scherb: they they do so much more than trying to drink a whole bottle of but I mean Carson's kinda like me, it's so repetitive and this is what I do every night on race night. But Slim Pushins: Alright, now I understand why y'all are out. Landon took six and Jeb Jeb pocketed a handful too. Jim Gardner: Corby was supposed to send me the link to and I'll have in my trailer Saturday, so 'cause it's gonna be another hot one. It's a hundred and one is the high Saturday, so anyway. Corby Scherb: All right, man, let's we gotta get the this kid to bed, you know, he's national champion and everything and he's got practice in school and Jim Gardner: He's probably got homework. He's got algebra Slim Pushins: Wait, he's gotta help you with he's gotta help you with Jim Gardner: homework he's gonna text me on. Slim Pushins: He's gotta help you with your fantasy football picks, Corby. Corby Scherb: Dude, we're cooked, man. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Carson Bolden: Dude, I have, I don't know football. I don't have a clue. Corby Scherb: Dude. My brother Lucas and Merle are huge Slim Pushins: Carson, you d Corby Scherb: into this man, and they're like, You gotta pick this guy and this guy and this guy and this guy and this guy. Next day, every single one of in reserve. Now what? Jim Gardner: We'll you know, NFL starts tomorrow. Slim Pushins: Carson, you don't know you don't know the backstory. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Corby got roped into fantasy playing fantasy football with nine other guys from work. None of them are football people. And the loser of the whole league has to take the SAT. So Corby's Corby's only motivation, yeah, y'all can take it together. Jim Gardner: He could take it with you. Corby Scherb: D the only thing is I I just can't get last. I could care less about winning. I just cannot get last. Jim Gardner: Carson, you gotta talk to your counselor and see when the SAT is so Corby can take it with you. You guys can sit next to each other and cheat each other cheat off each other. Slim Pushins: Yeah. We need to sign Corby up sometime after the Super Bowl. Carson Bolden: Okay. I'm not sure I'd want to cheat off for be no offense. Jim Gardner: I heard that's a good point. Well, so Corby can cheat Corby Scherb: Dude, I I wouldn't blame you. Jim Gardner: off you is what I said. But I I heard another good Carson Bolden: Yeah. Jim Gardner: fantasy football punishment today. it's called the Daytona 500. And the loser of the the league has to drive five hundred laps around a roundabout. Just in traffic while the other guys get to sit there in the parking lot next to it and drink a beer. Slim Pushins: I'd be worried that the cops would get called. Corby Scherb: I'm sure they will. I'm sure they will. Jim Gardner: Well, the a guy gets a ticket or goes to jail, I mean go for it. Slim Pushins: You gotta find another roundabout down the road? Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: They're plentiful around my house. Corby hates them. Corby Scherb: They're stupid. They're so stupid. The absolute dumbest invention there ever was. Jim Gardner: they're miserable around your house. I don't Slim Pushins: The do gooders the do gooders and the roundabouts gonna be the death of me. Jim Gardner: Yeah. yeah, I was I thought it was good. I was getting my team sorted out earlier today. Carson Bolden: you Jim Gardner: My team's gonna be awesome. Slim Pushins: Jim refuses Carson Bolden: yet Slim Pushins: to help Corby. He wants to see Corby hit take the SAT. Corby Scherb: Well yeah, well what do you have? All bangles? Jim Gardner: No, you can't take all Bengals because then they would pirate touchdowns off each other. There's only there's only one football to go around. Slim Pushins: Corby Tony Nichols said he'll help you take the SAT. Corby Scherb: Dude. I'm cooked if I gotta take the S A T. Jim Gardner: Tony Tony sent me a video. We have to try one video here before we wrap this up, but I know we're we're going long here. But Tony sent me this. Slim Pushins: Hey, we make the rules. We can go as long as we want. Look at this. BAM! Jim Gardner: So Corby Scherb: you just send it. I bet you Bolden's in on this. His dad's probably has a car right now that he can run in it. Jim Gardner: So here's a another trailer race. So this I I think this is up in the northeast somewhere. Slim Pushins: Carson, would you hold down we're gonna we've already talked to Raimi. We're Carson Bolden: I would be so down to do that. Slim Pushins: gonna try to make it happen next season. It's gonna be invitation only. Jim Gardner: So Carson Bolden: would be so down for that. Jim Gardner: this video Slim Pushins: And that's the Corby Scherb: Dude, but that's the Slim Pushins: you have Corby Scherb: full ramp, it's not just the tire ramps. I like I like these truck drivers now that are trying to kick off. Jim Gardner: They're they're a lot better on the pavement. They're going faster. There's smoke. Slim Pushins: Well we don't have that option. Jim Gardner: Well, we'd all truck down Carson Bolden: You Jim Gardner: to Houston. Slim Pushins: Play the other one real Jim Gardner: I think this is Slim Pushins: quick. That van right there goes for a lick. is this the Jim Gardner: don't spoil it, Kerbo. Spoiler alert. Slim Pushins: video? Jim Gardner: Yes, it's the same Corby Scherb: Triple seven. Jim Gardner: one. Look at the pit maneuver by the 09 here, but he takes himself out too. And then Corby Scherb: yeah. yeah. We're both done. We're both done. Slim Pushins: Like he pits himself. Jim Gardner: here you go, Kerbo. Here comes soccer mom. Slim Pushins: Look at this. Coming hot out of four th do you know it's a hell of a rollover Corby Scherb: gee big Big time into the wall. Carson Bolden: Gaaaahhh! Slim Pushins: when you lose the wheel the the wheel liners. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Carson Bolden: my god, he's- he's popped, Corby Scherb: Dude's way too pumped up. Carson Bolden: He's popped. Jim Gardner: and that Slim Pushins: Yeah. Start a start st start getting your dad in the thought process. I know somebody owes him he's got a mechanics lean on something that we can knock the windows Corby Scherb: I'm sure your mom's watching right now and we won't tell your mom about it. Jim Gardner: Check this out, just hammers it the back of the truck, and they don't stop. Slim Pushins: Just I mean I guess that's one way to do it. Jim Gardner: Yeah, they don't stop. Corby Scherb: Well he's not technically all the way on the trailers, front wheels are off. Jim Gardner: I guess. So then this guy in the nine comes out of nowhere. Parks it Slim Pushins: Could use a four wheeler, James. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I'm not Slim Pushins: I don't understand like what's happening. Didn't didn't old number three win? Is that number three? Corby Scherb: No, I think the the front end's all the way Jim Gardner: I don't know. They kept Corby Scherb: off. Jim Gardner: yeah, well, the back end of the the red one's hanging off too. but yeah, I mean here, watch these kids. Watch Corby Scherb: Yeah, so no winner, it's a draw. Look at the f look at the hood folded up. Jim Gardner: why these kids are pumped up for the winner who's wearing jeans and a hoodie. Here, I Slim Pushins: Look at this. you cut it off. Jim Gardner: got another view of that. So check this out. Corby Scherb: That's a big old ride. Carson Bolden: God, dude. Corby Scherb: With just a with just a shoulder strap. Jim Gardner: Watch this, watch this guy in the blue here. Slim Pushins: Old triple seven. There we go. He hasn't he's been unhappy. He's been unhappy all the entire race Jim Gardner: Guy in the blues Yeah. Guy in the blues did Corby Scherb: yeah, yeah. That's the one. Slim Pushins: night. He's sitting there unhappy. Let's see if let's see if the old triple s there it is. Standing ovation by Mr. Half Bald Guy. By Homer's look at that. Do you see that shit? Jim Gardner: This guy is thinking h hell y Yeah. He's checking make sure Carson Bolden: gets it on video too. Corby Scherb: yeah, he does. Pull the glasses up. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Carson Bolden: I'm on YouTube. Slim Pushins: Homer Simpson's finally happy about it. Jim Gardner: Anyway, and I got one Carson Bolden: YouTube good. Jim Gardner: more video. Slim Pushins: I'm too what? Jim Gardner: this was gnarly out in Laguna Seca too. Look at that. Carson Bolden: You're too good at that. my god. Corby Scherb: Corkshrew's gnarly, man. Corkshrew is gnarly. Jim Gardner: I guess a hung Slim Pushins: Ha ha. Carson Bolden: Wow. Jim Gardner: hung throttle and no brakes on like a I think it's a Porsche or something. Slim Pushins: Well, he was in the air. Brakes don't work good when there's no tires on the ground. Corby Scherb: That'll that'll knock the wind right out of ya. Jim Gardner: bro. I heard he was alright. I mean relatively, but all Slim Pushins: flipped in the it's he was good. All the trees broke his fall. Jim Gardner: right, that's about all I got there. I think Corby Scherb: Talk about that, you know, you know, asphalt and stuff, you know, Carson's big at Dallas Cardi Complex. I I still need to show up I still need to show up and give you a couple of bumpers. Carson Bolden: yeah. Anybody watching this, just know, you ever go to Dallas Cardi's Slim Pushins: Okay. Carson Bolden: and call the facts with me, not one single one of y'all will beat me. I promise you. I don't care who it is. Jim Gardner: Well we Corby Scherb: See? Slim Pushins: That's Jim Gardner: so tell us about Corby Scherb: I gotta lose some weight. Slim Pushins: the champ is laying it down. Jim Gardner: tell us quickly, I know we gotta go, but tell us quickly about like the league nights there. Or is it are like like Carson Bolden: I don't know. Jim Gardner: like you can't just show up, you can show up with your twenty five bucks and just r run for ten minutes, but they also like organize races, right? Carson Bolden: Yeah, don't see I don't really I don't know about like the league nights. I wanted to get into it there for a while, but I just kind of like I've got so busy with sports and everything that Jim Gardner: Yeah. Carson Bolden: kind of but I don't really know they I think they do it Thursday nights or something like that. But yeah. Corby Scherb: I bet it's a big deal, man. I bet you there's a lot of those fast go kart drivers that show up for that. Slim Pushins: You have to use the carts, the stock carts that they've got there, or do you bring carts? Jim Gardner: It was b they do both. No, they they've got carts there. Like Carson Bolden: No, you don't bring cars. Well, yeah, you can, but... Jim Gardner: they had video of Santino Ferrucci and Mick Schumacher running. Like you can go bring stuff and they hold big races, but they also like will hold a race in the rental carts that you can sign up for. And there's different weight limits and I don't know, what's a big deal, I guess. But Slim Pushins: Carson Corby will cheat his ass off to get a faster cart than you. Jim Gardner: He will flirt with whoever he needs to flirt with to make sure he gets the fast one. Leave her heartbroken. Carson Bolden: No. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Corby Scherb: She was showing me her Chr Slim Pushins: Yeah, she was. Corby Scherb: her Chrysler And she told us we went to pole position for this deal and she told me that this car was was junk. And I won I won the heat race and so th that's the the line we were supposed to be in and I walked up to her and I started talking to her and she showed me something about her car or something and I was like, Hey, remember like you said that that car's junk, right? And she was like, don't worry, I got you And she put me in the other car and Carson Bolden: Mm-hmm. my god. Jim Gardner: I'll cheated up car for Corby Scherb: It worked it worked. Carson Bolden: Teeter. Jim Gardner: Loser Pays the Beer tab. Anyway. All right. Carson Bolden: Yeah. Corby Scherb: But all right, Carson man, Jim Gardner: Let's wrap this up. Slim Pushins: Listen. Corby Scherb: once again, dude, cheers, buddy. that's massive. I hope you get plenty Jim Gardner: Thank you for coming on. Corby Scherb: yeah, plenty more wins that are bigger than that. And cheers, dude. You you'll go down in the history books for a long time, probably being the youngest guy to ever win that dude. Carson Bolden: Appreciate it, thank you. It was super Jim Gardner: There was a Slim Pushins: You're the man Carson Bolden: cool. Slim Pushins: couldn't have I couldn't have I couldn't have thought of a better way to to end your four hundred and three hundred and sixty four day wait. Carson Bolden: Yeah, yeah, it only took just about a year to finally find out, but yeah. It was cool when it finally happened. My nerves were f- Jim Gardner: Yeah. That was awesome. Well let Slim Pushins: So next weekend next weekend at Grayson County, Jim will be there. Corby and I think are going. Carson. You can you can Uber up there I guess. I don't know. Jim Gardner: Carson's a a maybe. Carson Bolden: I don't know. I want to go run for 5,000 and go run Eagle, but I don't know. I might be there. Just up to old Pops Jim Gardner: Yeah. All right, good deal. Slim Pushins: Good deal. Carson Bolden: out there, see what he wants to do. Jim Gardner: All right. Well let us know and Slim Pushins: Alright everybody. Thanks for wasting your time another week with us. Maybe the champ will come on and do some moonlighting with us sometime. Jim Gardner: Yep. So I appreciate you, Carson. Thank you. Good job this weekend. Carson Bolden: Yeah, I appreciate y'all. Thank y'all. Appreciate it. Slim Pushins: Thanks everybody.