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Pre author interview prep: Diving into the world of ZODIAC ACADEMY & the twisted sisters 💫✨ · Gorls Unplugged

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  2 girls, a whole lot of books, and even more to say about them.
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  I'm Tor. And I'm Bronte.
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  And this is Girls Unplugged. We're here for all things
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  bookish, from recommendations and book to screen adaptations.
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  To spilling the tea on all the latest community drama and news.
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  Don't forget to subscribe and follow along.
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  So today is a bonus episode. Which means something big is.
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  Coming. If you watched our last episode,
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  you'll know that next week we are having the Twisted Sisters
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  on an episode to talk all things about their books, Zodiac
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  Academy, their careers, so we are very excited.
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  We are so excited. This is huge for us.
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  Huge. So we thought today we would
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  actually talk about how Zodiac Academy brought us together, the
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  books themselves, and we'll play like a fun little game of snog,
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  marry pie as well. Yeah, 100%.
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  It's going to be a fun little episode, but before we get into
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  the game, our rankings, our reading orders, we wanted to
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  talk a bit about how it impacted us as friends, as creators, our
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  podcast, basically our overall origin story.
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  Yeah. But before we get into all of
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  that, don't forget to like, share, subscribe and follow to
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  our podcast is the most important thing.
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  It's so important to us. And if you do that this week,
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  you will also be the first to know as soon as the interview
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  with the sisters drops. So hit the button.
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  It's very, very important to us. We'll start with OJ Academy
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  because it's the whole, it's the whole rhyme and reason for us,
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  yeah. Do you remember how you
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  originally found the series itself?
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  I do, and it was thanks to one of book talks own as well.
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  So if you follow a court of spicy books back then she was
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  talking very heavily about this series and she came up on my for
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  you page. I wasn't a content creator there
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  and I was just in the shadows of TikTok.
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  A lurka. A Lurka.
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  And I don't even know how I got onto book content, but I did.
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  And she described it as adult spicy Harry Potter, I think.
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  And obviously we're not fans really of JK.
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  Well, we're not. We're not fans of JK Rowling
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  anymore as a person. But though that series to both
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  of us was quite pivotal in our reading journey as children and
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  teens and things. So that really sold it for me
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  and I decided to read them. And then obviously the rest is
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  history in terms of consuming all of the other books that I've
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  read. But what about you?
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  I found it through Amazon. I so like my like falling in
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  love with reading again journey started after I had my daughter
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  in 2020. Obviously we then had COVID
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  locked down. I had terrible post Natal
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  depression and my sister Ellie gave me fraud of glass.
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  So I kind of restarted my reading journey with that.
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  And at the time and then I was like, what am I reading next?
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  And I was on Amazon trying to find some books for my husband
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  to get me for Christmas. And it just like popped up on
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  like the kind of recommended for you part.
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  And as soon as I saw Zodiac as a big astrology girly, obviously
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  my whole life I was like, well, this sounds like a bit of me.
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  And I love an Academy setting. Love it, especially in fantasy
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  series. So I picked up the first book
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  and then like fell down the rabbit hole and never came back
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  out of it. Still obsessed now, Like how
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  many years? Five years later?
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  Yeah, five years. I think we both read them in
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  2021 and then started our book talks in 2022.
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  And both of us, our first video was basically on Zodiac Academy.
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  Yeah, I started my TikTok simply because my best friend Amy has
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  said since like, like, you know, like those like, aesthetic
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  videos, like the music and the vibes of the story.
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  She was like, you need to make one of these four Zodiac
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  Academy. So I made a TikTok count
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  literally just to make a little video of my bestie.
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  And then then, you know, my TikTok journey started from
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  there. Mine was also similar in that
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  aspect because I was at work with my colleague at the time,
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  slash friend Sarah, and she was like, we were talking about
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  books quite a lot. And at that point I was back
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  into reading quite heavily and she would be like, gosh, you
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  read so much. And I was like, I know I was
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  thinking about starting a book talk, but it's so cringe blah,
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  blah, blah. Like I was just really insecure
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  about it because obviously me and Tor as well, we are slightly
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  older than what the most of the creators were at that time.
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  And she was like, no, you should do it.
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  You should do it. And so I did it because she told
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  me to blamed her, thank her. I always say to Sarah, like, I
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  wouldn't done that without you, girl.
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  And so, yeah, it was very similar for both of us.
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  And then how we met was kind of through Zodiac too, to be
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  honest, because we both or I ended up in a book club with
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  tour sister Ellie. Tour sister was looking for
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  people to meet up with in London, chat about books.
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  I responded and we met then. Yeah, few months later other
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  bookish friends as well made a group chat for people to reread
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  Twilight. Terrible.
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  That was a terrible idea. We all failed at that and the
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  second one put me in a slump. But then when we were on that
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  group chat, we realised that so many of us were reading and
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  loving Zodiac Academy and so we made another group chat which
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  was like me, Tor and a few others.
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  The ASK group. The ask, ask, ask specifically,
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  you know, like Almighty. What's it?
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  Sovereign society? Yeah, there you go.
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  Are you? Are you?
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  Even a true fan. I need to reread it's been a
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  while. And that was like we were
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  reading them as they were being released together.
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  And one of our friends, Amy, was reading it on holiday while she
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  was drunk on the beach, reacting to all the crazy things that
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  happened in these books. She.
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  Was in Mexico with all inclusive cocktails and her reactions to
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  some of the things that were happening in the books.
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  Well, why? I will never forget some of
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  them. It was so funny.
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  So that's kind of how we became like, properly friends.
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  And then, of course, we both started taking content quite
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  seriously, and that's how the podcast came to be.
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  Yeah, we started. So we had like, because we were
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  doing content, Yeah. And that's always been, I feel
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  like that really, really became the backbone about friendship
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  really. And then we started a book club
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  and then we were like, what's the next step for us?
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  And we were like, we fucking love talking.
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  We both love that kind of like longer form style when we're
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  doing TikTok. So there's like a chattier yeah,
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  really talking about our books. And that was how the podcast
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  came through. We spoke about it for ages
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  before we started doing it. And then we were like, OK, let's
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  do it. Yeah, and now we're on Season 3.
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  Yes, we are. Somehow, I don't know how we've
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  got here, but it's been a whole. Year.
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  Yeah, that's wild. We literally just hit our year
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  anniversary while we were out on our Easter break.
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  Yeah, wild. I love you.
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  I love you too. The autisticness Do we want to
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  touch? Each other, I love you.
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  OK, so that is our origin story, but let's go on and talk about
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  Zoda Academy specifically. We will talk about their other
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  books as well. Yeah, but let's start with Zoda
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  Academy. Spoiler warning, yes.
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  If you haven't read them, we're obviously going to try and keep
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  it like not super spoiler heavy, but inevitably we will talk
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  about something. So spoiler warning for that
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  series. Let's start with reading order.
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  Yeah? How did you read the series?
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  So when I read them, only the first five books were out, so I
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  didn't have, like, a huge choice at that time.
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  So I read books one to five, then six came out, and then I
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  read as told by the boys. OK.
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  Yeah. Or did I read as told by the
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  boys between 5:00 and 6:00? It was either between 5:00 and
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  6:00 or after six. And then they had a few
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  novellas. Yeah.
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  Which I did. So like the Ass Party one.
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  Yeah, the Leon one. Oh no, sorry.
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  Here after number six. I then went and read Ruthless
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  Boys 7 releases after we've done the novellas as well.
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  Then another novella releases after 7, which I think was
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  beyond the veil. No, that was 8.5.
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  I feel like there was one between 7:00 and 8:00, maybe a
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  short 1. There was the Foxy Tails which
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  had a couple of like bonus chapters.
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  Foxy Tails, and I do, yeah. I have Foxy tails.
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  I've read Foxy tails. So it was that, then Eight, and
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  then I did, yes, because I didn't read Beyond the Veil and
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  then Nine and I have kind of not read all of the novellas just
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  because I'm not a huge novella person in general.
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  So that was my reading order. Sort of like 1:00 to 5:00.
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  Ruthless Boys, 6789 with a few novellas sprinkled in.
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  So you did Ruthless boys between book 5 and 6?
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  Yeah, I think so. It was a long time.
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  It was five years ago. It was somewhere around there
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  because there was a break between the next Zodiac book
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  basically being released and I was able to read all of Ruthless
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  Boys back-to-back and complete that.
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  So I I think it was that, yeah, I read Ruthless Boys after book
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  5, they were all completed, so I finished them then book 6 and so
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  on. Fine.
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  What about you? I read them, so when I read
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  them, I didn't have a TikTok. I think me and Ellie had started
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  our bookstagram account, but we were really just using it to
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  like review, review books that we had been reading.
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  I don't even know if I actually had a bookstagram then actually,
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  because I think Zodiac Academy was what started that journey
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  for us. So I, when I read them, they
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  were all the way up to book 6 or 7.
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  So I read them quite a while after you and I didn't know
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  because I wasn't on TikTok, because I wasn't on anything
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  else. I didn't know there was this
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  whole other series. I'd kind of seen it in the front
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  of their books, obviously when you see, but I didn't know the,
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  the, the correlation to Zodiac Academy.
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  So I read one to six I think is actually what I did, and then
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  Heartless Sky was coming out quite soon after I finished book
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  6. OK, Yeah.
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  So I've then read on to seven and then I think I read Ruthless
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  Boys in between 7 and eights with quite big gap between
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  Heartless Sky and Sorry and Starlight.
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  Didn't it was pushed back a few times, Yeah.
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  So I think that was when I read Ruthless Boys and I did those on
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  audio and then read 88.5. And then?
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  Nine and then after the series finished, was when I read
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  Dartmoor Penitentiary. And did you ever do as told by
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  the boys? I did, yeah.
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  But I think as well, I did that in between, like a book, like
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  books releasing where I needed a bit of a fix.
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  Yeah. Like I needed it injected into
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  my veins because I missed it so much.
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  And then I read it at some point in between the books, So.
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  And I've read all of the novellas as well.
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  I've read Fox Tales, I've read the last one.
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  I've read Seth on the Moon. See, I've not read Seth on the
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  Moon the only. One I haven't read.
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  I'm outing myself here as a non true fan.
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  I have not read Livin that Lionel.
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  I've not read that either. And I do want to read it, but I
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  haven't read it yet. Yeah, I think I've not read Set
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  on the Moon, Livin That Lionel and Beyond the Veil.
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  But Livin that Lionel is like almost like a full size book.
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  It's not a tiny novella because like Beyond the Veil is quite
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  big as well. That's like a full size book.
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  Not as big as there are other books obviously, but it is it is
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  a full size book and I loved that book.
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  They like a hecking long story. But I love I, I think the thing
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  with Zodiac Academy is you're by the point that you're in it,
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  you're in it for the characters because they feel like you're
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  friends. Yeah, it's the definition of
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  found family trope. Oh my.
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  God, yeah. If you love that trope, you'll
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  not find it done better than this series.
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  I don't think I've read a series funnier.
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  Yeah, it's so funny. So, so, so funny.
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  Yeah, they made me laugh so much.
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  Every single book. Every single book.
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  And like when you go back and reread, they just get funnier
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  because you know the characters even better.
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  Yeah, but I feel like a lot of people don't understand that
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  certain things they're doing are a joke.
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  So like I always see people say like, oh, they've called it
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  fable, that's so cheesy. And I'm like, that's the joke.
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  That's the joke. But yeah, it's definitely a
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  specific type of humour. But to me, they're the funniest
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  ever, yeah. So in terms of how like you
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  would recommend it to how you would recommend to read them,
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  Yeah, I think we have a kind of similar view on this now because
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  it is like different reading orders you can do, you can
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  obviously do them like chronologically.
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  But I think, I think we're I think we're aligned on this.
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  You do the first 4, but I do believe that it's stressful
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  stepping away at the end of book 4 to go and read Ruthless.
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  I don't know how people would do it, but I understand why it's
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  important to do it. So the recommended reading order
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  is the first four books up into Shadow Princess.
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  Go back and read the first five Ruthless Boys books, then come
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  back and read the rest of Zodiac Academy before going on to read
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  Dark More Penitentiary. Is that how you would recommend?
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  No. Interesting.
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  So I always tell people, and I've done videos on this before,
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  I always recommend one to three, then switch to ruthless boys and
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  do all 5 because of the stressful ending at the end of
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  four that you won't want to come away from.
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  So I feel like book Ender book 3 feels a more natural stopping
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  point to switch. OK.
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  So that's the only difference. But then all 5 come back to
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  Zodiac. Do 456 after six, do as told by
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  the boys and then I would say do 789 and then.
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  Start saying OK, yeah, OK. I didn't think about as told by
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  the boys. Actually, that makes sense.
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  And I can't remember my rationale as to why, as told by
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  the boys, I think is important. But there is something in the
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  book that I think is important before you do later.
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  Books, I think it is good to go back and read it, read the
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  perspectives from them. Yeah, like once you're a little
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  bit further into it, I think it adds a certain amount of depth
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  to the story. But I do also think there's
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  something in it that's missing from the main story.
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  But now I can't remember what it is.
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  I think there is something you only learn in that book.
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  Reread. Yeah, the only the only option.
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  Just going to have to reread again.
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  But yeah, mostly the same. And you can then go on to read
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  Sins of the Zodiac, which is set in the same overall world as
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  Zodiac Academy. Yeah.
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  So Zodiac Academy, Rufus boys and Dartmoor are set in Solaria.
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  And how they describe it is imagine Zodiac Academy in that
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  world is in America. Sins of the Zodiac is what would
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  be like Europe. Yeah.
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  So you can then go on to read those, although it is an
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  entirely different story in and of itself.
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  Yeah, which I haven't read yet. Tours on book.
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  Three. Yeah, just finished it last
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  month. Yep.
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  So very interested to start those.
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  So now we're gonna rank, which I feel like is really hard because
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  let us be clear that we don't think any of these books are
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  what I don't think any of you. Was gonna say speak for
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  yourself. I don't think any of them are
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  bad. Some are just much better than
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  others. Yeah, and I'm very curious to
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  see how similar our ranking is in terms of the things, but we
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  are only doing like the core 9 books because to do them all
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  would just be bloody wild. And I haven't even read all of
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  the novellas anyway. So Core 9 books, that's what
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  we're doing. OK, you go first.
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  What's your least favorite? OK, so I.
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  Do think there is a bad book? Only one, but I think it's the
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  first book and when I read the first book for the first time, I
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  hate Reddit. I was literally like, this is
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  ridiculous. The writing's awful.
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  Like honestly I was savage about it but I couldn't put it down.
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  So that's how I ended up going on to the books that I then
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  enjoyed. But I still do probably think if
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  I read book one now it would not.
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  It would be my least favorite. Yeah, so I'm actually in
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  agreement. I think that the first book is
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  the worst of the 9. I the first time I read it.
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  A bit like you, I enjoyed it when I was reading it.
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  Found it very very very addictive.
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  But I I felt like I was getting in something quite YA for the
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  first like 3/4 of the book and I was like it was quite juvenile.
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  Yes it does 100%. And then it got to a set and
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  classroom scene. This is what YA.
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  This is this is this is the three. 60 or 180, whatever it
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  is, 360. This is done at 180.
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  And then I was like oh OK, not that, not that I need spice to
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  throw, but to be good. But I had just thought I was
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  getting in something quite YA as I'd got through it, but I did.
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  I definitely enjoyed it enough to still go on the book too.
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  So same as you. But now when I go back and read
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  it, I love reading that like first part where they're first
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  start finding everything out like, oh, this is great.
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  Yeah, but I think that's like the sense of nostalgia with it
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  too, though, right. Yeah.
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  OK. And then in eighth spot, I have
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  Fated Throne, which is book 66. Yes, it's book 6.
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  And the reason I have Book 6 here is because it's a very,
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  very dark book the whole way through.
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  It's quite heavy to read, and it does feel quite slow in parts.
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  It's a brutal book where you feel like the end is never
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  insight and nothing good is ever going to happen to these
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  characters. And then naturally, because of
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  that, it has less humor and found family moments than the
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  rest of the series. So for me, that one I remember
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  at the time thinking, this is a hard 1 to get through.
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  Yeah, not because it was bad, just because it's such a
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  different tone to some of the other books.
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  Yeah, fair. I can understand that.
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  Yeah. My second is Rufus Faye, which
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  is the second book. I almost did that, but yeah.
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  Bullying I found really intense in Book 2 and I was getting
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  really stressed throughout it. It was winding me up and I was
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  getting really like riled up by it.
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  The ending of book 2, though, was like one of those like peak
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  like reading moments that will forever stick out of my mind.
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  So it's really loath to put this in like this place.
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  However, like for if I think about the overall book and
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  that's what I have to think about that would that would sit
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  at 8th place. Yeah, so funnily enough, for me,
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  at 7th place is the same one Ruthless Fame, which is book 2.
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  Not really for the same reasons that Tor has said.
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  I didn't. It sounds weird to say, but I
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  didn't mind the bullying at all. I didn't struggle with it.
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  It wasn't something that, yeah, I got angry at the characters,
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  but as a kind of trigger, I suppose it doesn't bother me.
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  But it was still like a little bit weaker than some of the
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  later books in terms of their writing and feeling a little bit
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  juvenile. But again, the reason just a
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  little bit. Just a little bit, but again,
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  the reason I didn't put it at #8 the same as Tor was because this
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  is the point where I started to get really addicted and the
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  ending was so good. My next one is actually book
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  five. OK, which is Curse Fate.
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  Yeah, interesting. Just the whole aftermath of book
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  four. I was just.
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  It's a stressful one, it is. So stressful and it was a wild
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  ride. And the ending.
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  I was so angry about the ending of that book.
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  Yeah. Not that.
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  And listen, this is all goes to say that I have every single one
• 20:16
  of these books. Like I loved this book so much,
• 20:19
  but just like overall, in terms of breeding experience and
• 20:23
  things that happened, that would be my 7th play.
• 20:27
  Is that 7th? That's your seventh?
• 20:29
  Yeah. This is going to get confused I.
• 20:31
  Know it makes sense. My number six, maybe a
• 20:36
  controversial one, but it's Heartless Sky because which is
• 20:41
  book seven. Yeah, 7:00.
• 20:44
  Yes, it is book 7. Because although it has like an
• 20:48
  absolutely crazy ending that is insane, heart wrenching,
• 20:55
  devastating balls to the walls with so much stuff going on, the
• 21:00
  first maybe 600 pages are a lot slower and and it's a lot more
• 21:07
  like character based over plot base.
• 21:10
  And it's a lot of funny moments, a lot of spice, but not as much
• 21:13
  adventure and plot. Yeah, until that end.
• 21:17
  So although it's again, I mean, all of these books we love and
• 21:19
  again, five stars, but in terms of the ratio of how much plot
• 21:24
  versus action and spice and romance, it's just a little bit
• 21:27
  off for me. OK, interesting.
• 21:29
  Yeah. Start to get quite different.
• 21:31
  Yeah, my book in my 6th place actually would have to go to
• 21:37
  Sorrow and Starlight OK Book 8, just because parts of it I
• 21:44
  didn't enjoy as much. And I think this there was a
• 21:46
  real agreement in the community. I think that there felt like a
• 21:50
  lot of filler in this book, which was fine because again,
• 21:55
  and that those fillery parts are funny and they're emotional, but
• 22:00
  I because of what happens at the end of book 7, you want the
• 22:05
  story to be moving, moving, moving because you're waiting
• 22:08
  for some things to happen. So like just overall, it wasn't,
• 22:13
  it wasn't my. Favorite.
• 22:15
  My favorite. Yeah.
• 22:16
  Yeah, OK. Makes sense.
• 22:18
  But there was, I have to say some.
• 22:22
  There are some moments in that that are so funny.
• 22:24
  Like, I genuinely cried with laughter at some of the moments
• 22:28
  in that book. Yeah, okay, top five now.
• 22:33
  So everything up here is 5 onwards for me.
• 22:36
  In 5th place is Shadow Princess, which is book 4.
• 22:40
  So for me, that book was so stressful, like so stressful.
• 22:45
  The back and forth between one of the couples was getting me
• 22:49
  quite irritated. And then of course the ending
• 22:52
  just blows that up even further and you have this insane
• 22:57
  cliffhanger where you're so angry at one of the characters
• 23:00
  for the stupid decision that they have made.
• 23:03
  It's I can still remember how angry I was finishing up.
• 23:08
  I have actually never experienced such a visceral
• 23:12
  reaction to something in a book. Like such a stupid decision by a
• 23:17
  character. That's not stupid in terms of
• 23:19
  the way the authors have written it, like an unrealistic
• 23:22
  decision. Just stupid of the character to
• 23:25
  do that. Yeah.
• 23:26
  So yeah, I will never get past that.
• 23:28
  That's my #5. OK, my number 5 is going to be
• 23:33
  Heartless Sky for similar reasons to you.
• 23:37
  It is a little bit slower. It's just it doesn't have the
• 23:41
  same like for me, it doesn't have the same emotional depth
• 23:45
  that some of the other books had in terms of like how it made me
• 23:49
  feel. I felt quite steady through most
• 23:51
  of Heartless Sky. Do you know what you mean?
• 23:53
  I didn't have that like heart racing.
• 23:56
  Yeah, Ness about it. So yeah, for sure, it's
• 23:59
  definitely. Definitely like a dull in pace,
• 24:03
  almost like that book is quite smooth for me #4 is Cursed Fates
• 24:09
  which is number the 5th book. It's just so confusing.
• 24:12
  Now guys, the 5th book is my fourth favorite and to be
• 24:17
  honest, I can't really remember much negative about this, but I
• 24:21
  also can't remember much positive about this one.
• 24:23
  I think I just really enjoyed this one.
• 24:26
  Nothing too much to say about it, so that's why I've put it
• 24:29
  there. OK, Yeah.
• 24:30
  Mine is now at Shadow Princess in fourth place.
• 24:36
  Yeah, Book 4 at 4th place. Yeah.
• 24:39
  I loved how like this book, you start to really kind of see some
• 24:46
  of the other relationships kind of starting to kind of like you
• 24:50
  start to get a bit like, oh, this is happening and this is
• 24:53
  happening and this is happening. And it was just there was so
• 24:56
  much stuff again, like the the although the ending was so
• 25:00
  frustrating. I have never experienced such an
• 25:04
  intense emotional reaction to the ending of a book.
• 25:07
  Yeah. And I just love the shock, shock
• 25:10
  factor of it because I'm one of those people that very naturally
• 25:14
  predicts a lot of stuff. Yeah, in books.
• 25:16
  And I just, I just didn't, doesn't see it coming.
• 25:18
  Yeah. So I, yeah, I bloody loved.
• 25:21
  It it was a wild 1/3 spot. I have Restless Stars, which is
• 25:26
  the final book in the series. The conclusion.
• 25:29
  It was an amazing ending to the story, but it is very chunky.
• 25:34
  So long. There's a few things added in
• 25:37
  that I think could have been taken out and some of the
• 25:40
  epilogues. I was a bit like, this isn't how
• 25:44
  I first saw their ending. Not necessarily like it in a bad
• 25:48
  way, but but like, I don't know how to explain it well.
• 25:51
  It just kept going on sort of thing.
• 25:54
  So even though I loved it, and it's obviously top three so it
• 25:57
  was still amazing, it's not my favorite.
• 26:00
  OK, yeah, I actually think I got really, I got.
• 26:06
  I'm really torn on. I'm really, really torn so much
• 26:10
  on the top three books, but I'm going to say third place for me
• 26:14
  goes to it. Is third place isn't it fated
• 26:17
  throne? OK, that's very different from
• 26:21
  us. Yeah, very different for me,
• 26:24
  Fated Throne, although it was dark, there was so much going
• 26:28
  on. There was some amazing
• 26:33
  relationships in here, like the yearning.
• 26:37
  There is a spy scene that for me rivals Chapter 55.
• 26:42
  I know exactly which one you mean.
• 26:44
  And it is so good, like the payoff from like in that scene,
• 26:49
  you're just like. Yeah.
• 26:54
  It was. Just so good.
• 26:55
  And I really enjoyed like the sisterly dynamics in that book
• 27:00
  and the way that they like, I don't, again, I don't want to
• 27:04
  spoil too much, but the way that they like all really like come
• 27:06
  together in Book 6. I just, I just thought it was so
• 27:10
  fantastic. Yeah, maybe I need to reread now
• 27:13
  that I have all those positive thoughts in my mind #2 for me is
• 27:18
  sorrow and Starlight, which is very different to tour and very
• 27:22
  different to the general community.
• 27:24
  I remember when I read this and I gave it five stars, I saw no
• 27:27
  one else give it that rating. I think I gave all of the books.
• 27:30
  Yeah, but like aside from us know what, and I get it, there
• 27:35
  is a bit of filler. But to me the filler in this
• 27:38
  book was all either funny or romance.
• 27:40
  So I enjoyed it. And this was the book where I
• 27:44
  really started to feel like there was some high fantasy
• 27:46
  elements because there's a lot of like different tasks that
• 27:50
  they're trying to do, relics that they're trying to find.
• 27:54
  Yeah, it was really fun in that sense, to be fair.
• 27:56
  It was a quite like an adventure quest type book, which I really
• 28:00
  enjoyed. I remember there's one
• 28:01
  particular scene which I won't go too spoilery into it, but
• 28:04
  there's a couple and they're trying to find something.
• 28:06
  They're alone in this sort of like chess board scene and it's
• 28:12
  like a game and you know they've got to do it quickly before bad
• 28:15
  things happen. And it really gave me like high
• 28:18
  fantasy vibes. I enjoyed that.
• 28:20
  And I enjoyed that a lot of the characters were back together
• 28:23
  and again, so many hilarious like tears streaming down my
• 28:28
  face moments in that. Are you thinking of the Xavier
• 28:30
  moment? No, I'm thinking of a ruthless
• 28:33
  boy moment. Oh, the windpipe, Yeah.
• 28:39
  You'll never forget our friend Amy, me and her voice noting in
• 28:43
  tears at that specific moment. So yeah, it's just got a lot of
• 28:47
  memories attached to that one too.
• 28:49
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK.
• 28:51
  So my second from top is restless Styles.
• 28:59
  Yeah, OK. So we both have the same tilt
• 29:02
  book, which isn't surprising. It was the I just felt like it
• 29:07
  was the perfect ending. Again, I think people still felt
• 29:09
  like a bit similar to sorrow and Starlight that it was too big,
• 29:12
  but I actually felt like every single thing made sense.
• 29:16
  It added to the story. I don't think any of it was
• 29:20
  filler in the sense it was just trying to make it bigger.
• 29:22
  I just think that everything kind of like ramped up for this
• 29:25
  amazing ending. For me personally, I love the
• 29:30
  like epilogues that they do and then they do a few and then I
• 29:33
  just everything about it was. Was so good.
• 29:36
  It is so good. It's still like top three for me
• 29:38
  as well. So yeah, it's so good.
• 29:40
  OK, number one book for both of us.
• 29:42
  Then The Reckoning, which is number 3 for me specifically.
• 29:48
  This is the point when I was like, I'm addicted, this is
• 29:51
  insane. I love this.
• 29:53
  And there is a point in this book where a romantic dynamic
• 29:57
  shifts. Between I think 22 Romantic
• 30:01
  actually really start to shift in this.
• 30:02
  Book. Yeah, potentially.
• 30:04
  I think, I think the one I'm thinking of specifically is I'll
• 30:08
  just say Darcy and her love interest because there's a lot
• 30:12
  of like enemies to lovers, back and forth banter, jealousy and
• 30:18
  possessiveness in this one. And then a really iconic quote,
• 30:23
  Declaration of Love, and that just sticks out to me.
• 30:27
  And it's before the books start getting longer as well.
• 30:30
  So it feels quite fast-paced and short and snappy, but so
• 30:34
  addictive. Yeah, I agree.
• 30:36
  And I so I I think my thing with the reckoning was that there was
• 30:40
  so much magic because they're going through these kind of
• 30:43
  magical trials within their elements to be able to set the
• 30:47
  reckoning is for them to be able to stay at Zodiac Academy.
• 30:51
  So I loved how much magic there was in it.
• 30:54
  I think that the the tension between Tory and Darius really
• 31:01
  kind of like starts to like bubble in this book and say
• 31:09
  similar like with the whole with Darcy's situation, you really
• 31:13
  just start to notice the the dynamics that are happening and
• 31:18
  it's just it's just such a good book.
• 31:20
  Yeah, that one was just. I'd give anything to read that
• 31:22
  again for the first time. I would give anything to reread
• 31:25
  the series. Well series for the first time
• 31:27
  again. I've reread the entire series 4
• 31:30
  Times Now. I think I've reread it fully
• 31:32
  twice. No, I don't think I've ever
• 31:35
  completed a full reread. As I've done it twice reading it
• 31:38
  and twice on audio. I've reread up to book 7 twice.
• 31:43
  I haven't done a reread since book 8.
• 31:45
  Came out. So I'm doing a reread.
• 31:48
  Thing because I did it last year.
• 31:51
  Yeah, the full on the whole thing, I think.
• 31:54
  It's because there's so many books and they're so long that I
• 31:57
  know even if I'm doing it on audio, a reread of this is taken
• 32:00
  away from other things that I would want to read always on my
• 32:03
  TBR. So I kind of put it off.
• 32:05
  But I do want to do 1 soon. It's a comfort thing.
• 32:08
  It is. It's definitely a comfort series
• 32:10
  for sure. OK, so in the series is there a
• 32:13
  book that you feel is criminally underrated by the fandom?
• 32:17
  Yeah, I think that Beyond the Veil 8.5 is criminally
• 32:21
  underrated by the fandom. So many people skip it, and you
• 32:28
  and I don't feel like it's quite as bad as when people skip Tower
• 32:31
  of Dawn because that's that's me.
• 32:35
  However, I do think that it adds a lot to the story and certain
• 32:41
  things that happen at the end of it help #9 make a lot of sense.
• 32:47
  It is. It's not just a retelling of
• 32:49
  another book like As Told by the Boys is.
• 32:52
  It is very much its own part of what's going on.
• 32:57
  And, and a bit like Luck with all the others.
• 33:00
  There are some moments in it that are so funny and because of
• 33:04
  things you know in 8.5 that happened that are so funny, it
• 33:07
  makes #9 even funnier. Like certain moments that
• 33:11
  happen. Oh no, I can't say that's too
• 33:13
  spoilery. Too spoilery, I'll tell you
• 33:16
  afterwards. Okay, okay.
• 33:18
  Maybe I should do it when I do my reread then.
• 33:20
  I think if you're going to do a reread at some point, if you're
• 33:23
  going to take it slow and do it on audio, then you should
• 33:25
  definitely listen to it. Okay, noted.
• 33:28
  Next time I do it, I'm going to do live in that Lionel, Yeah.
• 33:31
  I won't talk about mine too long because I feel like I've already
• 33:32
  covered it, but mine would be Sorrow in Starlight because a
• 33:35
  lot of people obviously didn't like it.
• 33:37
  And I think personally that it has a lot of those high fantasy
• 33:41
  moments and it makes Book 9, that's how it comes together
• 33:44
  because it they go through all these little puzzles and things.
• 33:47
  And I also just think the filler in that one is like, actually
• 33:50
  just funny and enjoyable. So I think people are a little
• 33:54
  harsh on that one. But I'm normally a hater, so I
• 33:56
  get it. Yeah.
• 33:58
  And. If you had to pick one moment
• 34:02
  that totally emotionally wrecked you.
• 34:07
  Oh my God, there's so many. This is going to be spoilery, so
• 34:10
  if you haven't got some of these points you can say which book I
• 34:13
  guess. Is, yeah, I'll just say like,
• 34:15
  you'll know if you know, but if you don't know, you won't know
• 34:19
  the end of Book 7 because there's a, there's a lot of
• 34:25
  character deaths. And it's not even just one
• 34:27
  specifically that is particularly devastating because
• 34:31
  there was 1 character death that maybe devastated other people
• 34:34
  that I knew wouldn't be the end. But there are other character
• 34:37
  deaths in that that are really sad.
• 34:40
  Yes, I agree with you because that is one of mine like there
• 34:46
  are so end of book 7. If you haven't read it, cut off
• 34:49
  here in the broadcast that I'm going to talk about it for for
• 34:53
  reasons. There's there's there's two
• 34:55
  things that I think for me really emotionally killed me off
• 34:58
  the series. Hamish and.
• 35:00
  Catalina. Catalina.
• 35:01
  Yeah, like dying together. That's what I'm specifically
• 35:03
  talking. About at the end of book 7 was
• 35:06
  so gut wrenching, like it was devastating.
• 35:13
  Like I just couldn't actually even compliment happen because
• 35:15
  you knew you knew that there was no coming back from it.
• 35:20
  And also, I was really stressed about the fate of Geraldine.
• 35:24
  Yes, because although she is a main character and she's funny
• 35:27
  and fan favorite, she's not one of the core four.
• 35:30
  Yeah. So they could have just been
• 35:32
  like, we're going to be savage. Yeah, we're going to get rid of
• 35:35
  her. So that's why I was more
• 35:37
  stressed about those 3 characters than Darius.
• 35:40
  Yeah, because I was like, well, there's no way they're getting
• 35:43
  rid of Darius because they've got no time to bring a new love
• 35:46
  interest in for Tori. Yeah, no.
• 35:48
  And she was, they were each other's.
• 35:50
  What's it called? Lissy and mates.
• 35:53
  Yeah, yeah. So it's not going to work if he
• 35:56
  doesn't come back. So I know at some point he will.
• 35:59
  But the other three, that's why it was so stressful.
• 36:01
  Yeah, yeah, the diary spit I didn't find too stressful about
• 36:04
  Hamish and Kathleen. I did.
• 36:05
  The other moment that I found absolutely emotionally wrecked
• 36:09
  me was in Restless Stars. Again, spoilers when their all
• 36:19
  their spirits come down to the clay people and the girls are
• 36:21
  fighting with their. Parents.
• 36:23
  Oh my God, I forgot even about that.
• 36:25
  That didn't affect me. Oh my God, I was just in
• 36:28
  absolute bits reading it. I'm crying just thinking about
• 36:32
  literally she's literally tearing up.
• 36:34
  My eyes are welling up. I just found it like Oh my God.
• 36:38
  Like they're finally together. Like I just thought it was so
• 36:41
  lovely. Oh God, love you.
• 36:44
  I think the other bit was for me was also the bit we've already
• 36:47
  discussed, which was the end of book 4.
• 36:48
  Yeah, I mean, the ending of Shadow Princess was like awful.
• 36:53
  But I don't. I can't remember if I cried.
• 36:57
  I didn't say I cried. When I originally.
• 36:59
  Remember, I feel like I was more angry and shocked than I was
• 37:04
  upset. Yeah, I'm trying to think if
• 37:06
  I've cried at this series at all.
• 37:09
  You must have no. No, no no, I don't know if I
• 37:12
  have cried at this series. I'll have to check my reviews
• 37:14
  later, but I don't think I have. Actually, I can cry at
• 37:18
  everything. Yeah, and I don't cry at that
• 37:19
  much, particularly back then. I cried more now than I did back
• 37:23
  then. Yeah, she does cry.
• 37:24
  She's got a picture. I made a show gem the other day.
• 37:29
  Really happy place. Happy Place is the most I've
• 37:31
  ever cried at a book. Glitch like distraught.
• 37:33
  She looks like she's going through some like serious form
• 37:36
  of grief, honestly. The Victorian widow.
• 37:40
  The most I've ever cried at a book was Happy Place Into Mezzo
• 37:45
  by Sally Rooney and back when I used to read SJM, the first
• 37:48
  Crescent City. Oh my God, yeah, that's.
• 37:51
  Great, that ending. What was that?
• 37:56
  I wasn't really thinking about the character that dies.
• 38:01
  What character that dies? I'm gonna Oh my God, guys.
• 38:10
  Oh my God. Sorry.
• 38:10
  We've. Just gone off on such tangents,
• 38:12
  I know. Always happens, always happens.
• 38:15
  OK, so that was most emotional moment.
• 38:17
  Who do you think? And you can only pick one Who do
• 38:23
  you think is the funniest character in the whole universe?
• 38:27
  This is really hard because there's two that are really
• 38:30
  funny, but they're also kind of annoying, and then there's one
• 38:34
  that's like funny in a different way.
• 38:36
  I have. Three.
• 38:37
  Yeah, I have 3. OK, so who are the three?
• 38:38
  The three are Leon, Seth and Geraldine.
• 38:40
  Yes, yeah, but but Seth and Leon can be Mardi sometimes.
• 38:46
  Do you know what Mardi means? I forget she doesn't know what
• 38:48
  Mardi means. She's not a Northerner, guys.
• 38:51
  Is this some Northern slang? Yeah, Mardi means, like,
• 38:54
  stroppy, like you'd say to a kid if they were just crying for no
• 38:57
  reason. Stop being Mardi.
• 38:59
  Yeah. So like, sometimes Leon and Seth
• 39:01
  can be a bit like children. Yeah, Geraldine is hilarious,
• 39:08
  but sometimes she's a bit macho. Hilarious.
• 39:11
  Yeah. But I think I would pick
• 39:12
  Geraldine overall. Do.
• 39:14
  You. Yeah, I think so.
• 39:15
  I see. I feel like Seth, Leon and
• 39:18
  Geraldine are definitely the three funniest characters in the
• 39:21
  series. I do think the funniest is
• 39:23
  between Seth and Geraldine. Yeah, but I do think that Seth
• 39:27
  is the funniest. I feel like he's just like
• 39:30
  outlandishness. And actually his strops really
• 39:34
  make me laugh. Like his meltdowns about things
• 39:37
  to Darcy are just wild. Yeah, and he does definitely get
• 39:41
  better in the later books. I think that's the thing we've
• 39:44
  Seth. I think that's what makes me
• 39:45
  love him more is that he's probably the character I hate
• 39:49
  the most at the. Beginning of the series, he's
• 39:52
  the worst bully I would. Say yes, because it's just he.
• 39:54
  It's got that real nasty, like British, they're supposed to be
• 39:57
  sent in America. It's got that rule like a nasty
• 39:59
  British boy like vibe, do you know what I mean?
• 40:03
  Yeah, for sure. I mean, I also do think that
• 40:06
  Orion is quite funny in his own way because he's.
• 40:10
  So. Grumpy.
• 40:11
  Yeah, he's so grumpy. He's so sarcastic.
• 40:14
  He hates everyone and he's stuck with these, like, kids,
• 40:17
  effectively. And also gay.
• 40:20
  He's technically he looks so young.
• 40:22
  I know he's like 26. 20 like they get like 2526 something
• 40:25
  like that. But also, I think Gabe is quite
• 40:28
  funny. A lot of the time.
• 40:30
  The thing that happens to him with his.
• 40:33
  Was it his pubes like that that story?
• 40:38
  That's so funny. Yeah, there is a lot of funny
• 40:42
  characters in it. Oh, there's so much humour.
• 40:44
  What always makes me laugh about these books as well is that they
• 40:48
  say that Zoda Academy should be, say, in America.
• 40:52
  It's like the equivalent to America.
• 40:53
  But there is so much British humor.
• 40:56
  Yeah, there is. I think Lance is so British.
• 40:59
  100% such a Brit. I literally picked to him as
• 41:02
  Daniel Craig who is British. What, because he's old?
• 41:07
  He looks like he could be a dad. He could be evil.
• 41:10
  Like, I know in the books it says that he's really fit, but I
• 41:13
  can't imagine a villain's fit. Do you know what I mean?
• 41:15
  Oh. Lionel, I thought you were
• 41:16
  talking about Lancer. No.
• 41:18
  Lionel. Lionel as Daniel.
• 41:21
  Has imagined him as Eric Dame. The rest?
• 41:23
  Of himself, yeah, I could see that.
• 41:25
  But then again, he's too fit. Like, I can't have a villain
• 41:28
  that's hot. I need a villain that's like,
• 41:31
  ugly. Yeah, because you, you have to.
• 41:33
  You have to hate. Lionel especially the stuff he
• 41:35
  does in book six. Yeah, he's a he gets a lot of
• 41:39
  spice scenes in Book 6 that I don't want to have someone
• 41:42
  attractive. Oh.
• 41:43
  Yeah, no, yeah, you are right. You are right.
• 41:45
  So outside of Zodiac had me, any other Twisted Sister favourites?
• 41:51
  Yes, so I have read 23 books by them in total I would say, and
• 41:57
  this is wild that I haven't continued it for this reason.
• 42:00
  Book 2 of Age of Vampires. Obsessed.
• 42:06
  Obsessed. You only got to book two.
• 42:07
  Yeah. And then I stopped.
• 42:10
  What? I don't know why.
• 42:12
  I can't even remember why I stopped.
• 42:14
  Oh my God, that's so good. I haven't finished the series
• 42:17
  but they are so good I need to go back to them.
• 42:20
  I got to one of those points was like I was waiting for the next
• 42:22
  release and then I forgot what happened in the previous book
• 42:24
  and I was like I need to do a recap before I can go on to it.
• 42:27
  I don't. Know what my excuse was?
• 42:29
  Don't know, Just couldn't tell you.
• 42:31
  Yeah, but book 2, I was like, this is like crack.
• 42:37
  Like this is going to be my new series because one of the love
• 42:40
  interests specifically as well is like my ideal love interest
• 42:44
  in a book. He was very much giving Damon,
• 42:47
  Salvatore, Spike in Buffy, even a bit of Lance Orion, that kind
• 42:53
  of love to hate love interest and I loved it.
• 42:57
  I also have read all of Ruthless Boys.
• 43:00
  There is a lot of spice in them, yeah, but again, they have the
• 43:04
  best found family and humour ever.
• 43:06
  Yeah, if you're not a smart read.
• 43:08
  I mean, you can't read a Twisted Sisters book if you don't like
• 43:10
  Smart SO. Yeah, and there is a few like
• 43:14
  dark romance ones they have that I've read as well, like the,
• 43:17
  what's it called, the Death Cycle duet or something, The
• 43:20
  Death Death Club duet. I've read them, I enjoyed them.
• 43:25
  I loved them because I like anything that the Twisted
• 43:27
  sisters do. But would I read them again?
• 43:29
  No Would I like probably put them in recommendation videos?
• 43:32
  Not really, because they're just not my vibe.
• 43:35
  But Age of Vampires is very, very my vibe.
• 43:39
  It is very your vibe, Yeah, and it is.
• 43:41
  It's so good. Yeah, what about you?
• 43:43
  Because you've read a lot more. I think I've read almost
• 43:46
  everything that they've written. I've read all of Zodiac Academy,
• 43:50
  all of ruthless boys, all of Dark, more everything in Sins of
• 43:53
  the Zodiac so far. Hollow, which is then newest
• 43:56
  release, which is a really good time.
• 43:58
  It's very different to to the other fantasy books.
• 44:04
  It's kind of set in this like woodland forest and there's
• 44:07
  these spirits. It's it's very, it's very good.
• 44:10
  I've also read the entire US of Anarchy series, and I do love
• 44:15
  the Kings of Quarantine series. I was less obsessed with the
• 44:20
  duet that you've read The Death Club did enjoy it, but less
• 44:24
  obsessed. But those are all wide shoes.
• 44:26
  So you have to be like in the mood.
• 44:29
  Like I can't always just pick up a wide shoes.
• 44:31
  I have to really be in the mood for it.
• 44:32
  And those are a bit more like those are contemporary.
• 44:35
  They're not. They're not, which is fantasy.
• 44:37
  Why I haven't done those ones and I probably never will
• 44:41
  because I don't gravitate towards that amount of smart and
• 44:44
  so if I was to. Especially not in a fantasy
• 44:46
  genre. Exactly like the only reason
• 44:48
  I've read Ruthless Sports noises.
• 44:49
  Because it's also fantasy and ties into the Solaria.
• 44:52
  World yeah, but they are good they are they are really good
• 44:55
  books like the writings Grey just like the other ones I've
• 44:59
  read most of the vampire ones yeah, I got up to book four I
• 45:05
  think and I think there's six or seven of them Six yeah.
• 45:09
  The only things that I actively haven't read is the Beautiful
• 45:14
  Carnage one, which I think is a. Yes.
• 45:17
  It is that's a contemporary like dark romance and then there was
• 45:21
  the forget me not bombshell as well, which was like a dark
• 45:24
  mafia romance and never ended up reading that either.
• 45:26
  Yes. But pretty much everything else
• 45:29
  I have read and we'll continue to do so as and when they come
• 45:31
  out. But I would say for anyone
• 45:34
  that's read Zodiac Academy and is looking for that next fix,
• 45:38
  the either the like Age of Vampires series or the sins of
• 45:42
  the Zodiac series will be what will kind of like scratch that
• 45:45
  hitch, I think. Yeah, the Age of Vampires 1 is a
• 45:48
  little slow to start in book one, but if you just persist
• 45:52
  with it, you'll you'll get that. Yeah, for sure.
• 45:54
  OK, snog marry pies. Snog marry pie.
• 45:58
  If you don't know what pie is in UK it's like when you reject
• 46:01
  someone. So it's like snog marry avoid,
• 46:04
  but snog marry pie. Yeah, I was going to do kill,
• 46:06
  marry, fuck, but I just thought it was a bit crass so.
• 46:10
  Being crass doesn't usually stop you.
• 46:13
  No, but I feel like on the podcast I have to be slightly
• 46:15
  more sensible, less sailor swear mouth.
• 46:17
  Yeah, OK. Who's going first, me or you?
• 46:20
  You do the first one. OK, snog marry Pie, Dante.
• 46:25
  Gabriel. Yeah.
• 46:27
  And Caleb. OK, I'm going to.
• 46:32
  Who was it? Dante.
• 46:35
  Get Gabriel and Caleb. Yeah, OK.
• 46:38
  I would snog Gabriel. Yeah.
• 46:41
  Marry Dante because he's the Italian.
• 46:42
  The Italian. I got to marry the Italian man.
• 46:46
  And then pie Caleb. He's having my least favorite
• 46:50
  love interest. Completely.
• 46:50
  Different answers to that. Stop it.
• 46:52
  Who would you do out of that one that?
• 46:53
  I would have Pied Dante because he's so cringe.
• 46:57
  I would have snogged Caleb and married Gabe.
• 47:00
  I think Gabe's like the ideal. Husband, I knew that you would
• 47:02
  marry Gabe. 6 foot six with tattoos and dark hair.
• 47:05
  Please sign me up. OK, I feel like this one's gonna
• 47:08
  be hard for you. Oh, God.
• 47:09
  OK. Snog.
• 47:10
  Marry pie. Lance.
• 47:12
  Darius Rider. Easy, easy.
• 47:15
  Marry Lance. Snog Rider Pie, Darius.
• 47:18
  No way you do really. Darius gets a bit annoying for
• 47:23
  me in the later books, but Lance is my favorite book boyfriend of
• 47:28
  all time. This is actually one of the ways
• 47:31
  that we, like, really like, became friends.
• 47:33
  We've both had this wild obsession with Lance We would,
• 47:36
  like fight over. He was actually going to marry
• 47:38
  him like, like an 8 year old girl.
• 47:41
  Yeah, yeah. Especially because at that point
• 47:43
  I felt like everyone else was like Darius.
• 47:46
  Yeah. And then Ryder is my favorite of
• 47:49
  the men in Ruthless Boys, so he would be snug.
• 47:52
  And I thought you were going to find that harder.
• 47:54
  No, that was. A dab Meg.
• 47:56
  OK, now I've got a girl one for you.
• 47:58
  OK, So Darcy. Yeah.
• 48:01
  Tori. Yeah.
• 48:02
  And Rosalie. I mean, I would have to snug
• 48:12
  Tori. I couldn't marry her because she
• 48:15
  is me. I am her.
• 48:16
  We'd literally kill each other. Yeah.
• 48:18
  Pie Darcy and marry Rosalie. She's such a badass.
• 48:23
  Yeah, I need to read Dark more to get more of a overview of
• 48:27
  Rosalie. Yeah.
• 48:28
  I would have. I would have married Darcy,
• 48:31
  snogged Rosalie, Pied Tori just because she winds me up.
• 48:36
  Why she doesn't like me? Really.
• 48:39
  It's so funny because, like, everyone actually, like,
• 48:41
  whenever, when book talk was in its younger days and there used
• 48:45
  to be a lot of like, tell me which character I'd be, I'd
• 48:47
  always get. Well, when when I had brown
• 48:50
  hair, it was always Tori or Rosalie.
• 48:54
  Like even without people knowing that I was a Zoda Academy fan,
• 48:57
  but Rosalie especially, people would always be like, you give
• 48:59
  real Rosie bubs. Until I was in Ginger and
• 49:01
  everyone was like, you're Bryce. Yeah.
• 49:03
  And I was like, I'm so not Bryce, but yeah.
• 49:05
  Yeah, I used to get people saying Tori all the time.
• 49:08
  I literally because I used to be really long hair full beat in
• 49:13
  every single video they. Were nothing like her.
• 49:16
  No, but like looks I think people and then.
• 49:20
  I get that. But like, I feel like you're
• 49:21
  very much like a, you've got a Darcy personality.
• 49:24
  Yeah, I'm much more Darcy, but they used to make me like do
• 49:28
  cosplays with her. There's like several cosplay
• 49:33
  videos as me of Tory. That's so.
• 49:35
  I guess because I dressed like that back then as well, like a
• 49:38
  little bit like all black leather jackets, a bit sexier
• 49:41
  than a dress now because I'm not as slim as I once was.
• 49:44
  But don't say that. But you're so sexy.
• 49:50
  OK, now, right? You're going to hate this.
• 49:54
  Oh no. She's going to like villains or
• 49:56
  something. Yeah, I knew you were.
• 49:58
  Going to do that SNOG marry 5 right washer Lionel Vard.
• 50:06
  I knew she was going to do this and that's why I didn't do that
• 50:09
  because I knew she was going to do it.
• 50:11
  OK, I would. God.
• 50:17
  That's so hard. I would snog Washer, I would
• 50:23
  marry Bard, and I would pie Lionel, I think.
• 50:29
  Oh my God no. I would have to pie Bard.
• 50:33
  Right. Oh my God, what would I do is so
• 50:38
  hard. I would have to.
• 50:41
  Snog Washer because he's just so grim.
• 50:45
  And then I'd have to marry Lionel and then kill him and
• 50:47
  take all of his money in the inheritance.
• 50:49
  Yeah. I mean, in an ideal world I'd do
• 50:51
  that, but he's so powerful. He's.
• 50:54
  So awful. If you listen, tell us in the
• 50:57
  comments what you would do in that situation because that one
• 50:59
  is actually so difficult. She's mean, guys.
• 51:03
  Oh God, too good, I'm too funny. OK girls, that is the hype
• 51:07
  episode done. We.
• 51:10
  That, that was well, that was so much fun.
• 51:11
  I actually really really really. Enjoyed that this one was so.
• 51:14
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• 51:16
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• 51:19
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• 51:29
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