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Love Island U.S.A. Finale: Season 7 Cast Tells All and Then Most of Them Break Up! · I Do, Part 2

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Speaker 1: Hey that folks. It is Tuesday, August twenty six, and
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Speaker 1: all that love God left on that island. As we
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Speaker 1: found out from last night's reunion especial, welcome everybody to
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Speaker 1: this Love Island edition of Amy and TJ rodes highly
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Speaker 1: anticipated reunion show after the biggest season Love Island has
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Speaker 1: ever watched. We couldn't wait to get the updates and
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Speaker 1: see how they're all doing and wan wah wo.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was awkward. It was. It was hard to
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Speaker 2: watch in moments because part of why, Yes, everyone loves
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Speaker 2: the drama, but everyone does love the love and it
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Speaker 2: did feel and it has felt familial, like these folks
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Speaker 2: are bonded together through their experience. Yes there are ups
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Speaker 2: and downs and swaps of boyfriends and girlfriends, but this
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Speaker 2: just felt ugly.
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Speaker 1: We watched a lot of these I don't general I
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Speaker 1: don't think we watched these reunion shows, all these reality
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Speaker 1: shows we don't usually watch and going, oh, it's gonna
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Speaker 1: get hot. I actually don't like the drama and the
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Speaker 1: yelling and the screaming and the nastiness. I'm not a
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Speaker 1: big fan. There wasn't so much necessarily of that last night,
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Speaker 1: but we left very recently we have a recent emotional
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Speaker 1: connection to these people, and to see in a lot
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Speaker 1: of ways it has all broken down after only a
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Speaker 1: few months, even weeks. You could argue, yes.
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Speaker 2: Because this is oh when they all left, they're hugging
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Speaker 2: each other, their family, They're in love, They're gonna vacation together,
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Speaker 2: their kids are going to grow up together. You know,
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Speaker 2: this is what we see happen. It's like summer camp
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Speaker 2: on steroids.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: But yes, no one was yelling, no one made a
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Speaker 2: fool of themselves. But in a way, it's because they're
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Speaker 2: all so media trained now. The moment they get off
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Speaker 2: that island, they get their phones back, they start seeing
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Speaker 2: what people are saying about them. They see who's been
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Speaker 2: cast as the villain, who said who? Who said what
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Speaker 2: about whom? After the fact, and everything just falls apart,
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Speaker 2: like off the rails.
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Speaker 1: It does. And these shows and a problem we've had
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Speaker 1: with a lot of them that over the year, I mean,
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Speaker 1: reality show has been around so long now, and the
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Speaker 1: reunion shows and social media that everybody understands that the
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Speaker 1: reunion show is your opportunity to right all the wrongs,
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Speaker 1: to say your apologies, to rewrite the narrative of what
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Speaker 1: a lot of people have been saying about you online
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Speaker 1: that you didn't even know. So you see a lot
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Speaker 1: of people, yes on their best behavior, and some of
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Speaker 1: that takes away from authenticity, and some of it you
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Speaker 1: can feel it feels canned.
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Speaker 2: They're on a defense campaign. A lot of them like, well,
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Speaker 2: what I meant to say and what I intended to
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Speaker 2: do and what I regret and I'm sorry if you
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Speaker 2: took it that way. Yeah, there's just a bunch of
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Speaker 2: that going on.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know that's one of my least is
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Speaker 1: that the worst apology. I'm sorry if you got upset.
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Speaker 2: M sorry if somehow that appeared to be offensive. It's
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Speaker 2: like they're all, well, politicians and training.
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Speaker 1: Okay, And look, well you can understand that to a degree.
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Speaker 1: And this is I can't imagine the heat. I can
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Speaker 1: only imagine the heat that comes their way after show
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Speaker 1: this big and where people are so emotionally invested in
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Speaker 1: real people. You know, they are getting some nasty, nasty stuff.
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Speaker 1: And look, we can appreciate and understand that. And last night,
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Speaker 1: for the most part, people were on their best behavior.
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Speaker 1: But the updates we were all waiting on. This isn't
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Speaker 1: like a lot of other shows. Isn't this a pretty
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Speaker 1: short turnaround in terms of a reunion show. I don't
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Speaker 1: think about the bachelor brat and all that stuff. They're
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Speaker 1: six months.
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Speaker 2: Out exactly, So this was one month to the date
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Speaker 2: of the finale to the date they taped this reunion
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Speaker 2: and the reunion special was taped two weeks ago, so
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Speaker 2: we're six weeks out from the finale. But they taped
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Speaker 2: this one month out from the finale, So yes, that
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Speaker 2: is fairly recently. They only had a couple weeks to
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Speaker 2: say crap about one another on podcasts, et cetera.
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Speaker 1: And that was a theme last night for sure. But
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Speaker 1: to give you the update on the couple you were
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Speaker 1: curious about, well, your final four couples. Look, Whoda and Chris.
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Speaker 1: We already knew they weren't together. They were a final couple,
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Speaker 1: but they weren't even sitting together last night. They'll let
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Speaker 1: you know how things went.
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Speaker 2: That seems so sad to me. Okay, fine, you can
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Speaker 2: break up or you can have a difficult breakup on camera,
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Speaker 2: but you can't sit next to a person for an
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Speaker 2: hour on a television show.
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Speaker 1: You ever broken up with anybody, you wouldn't sit next
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Speaker 1: to for an hour on a TV show. Probably there
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Speaker 1: it is all right. Next, you had Pepe and Iris.
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Speaker 1: They were there sitting next together, sitting next to each other,
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Speaker 1: looked happy. Amaya and Brian had some smiles. They were
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Speaker 1: sitting there laughing next to each other. Nicolo Landria, what
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Speaker 1: is it called.
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Speaker 2: Nicolandria, Nicolandria, all smiles, sitting next to each other.
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Speaker 1: And then Shelley and Ace. They didn't make the final
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Speaker 1: four couples, but that was one that a lot of
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Speaker 1: people were excited about. They were sitting there, smiling, happy
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Speaker 1: and everything. Now, a couple of problems with what we
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Speaker 1: saw there just.
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Speaker 2: Two weeks ago that we just mentioned, all these couples
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Speaker 2: seemed happy and together, with the exception of Huda and Chris. Well,
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Speaker 2: now we've learned in just a period of two weeks
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Speaker 2: following this finale, Pepe and Iris have unfollowed each other,
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Speaker 2: and Amaya and Brian have unfollowed each other, which would
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Speaker 2: lead most people to believe they have broken up.
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Speaker 1: A reminder, Amaya and Brian are your winters, nurse. They
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Speaker 1: are the one everybody's We saw them two months ago
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Speaker 1: hugging and starting a beautiful life together.
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Speaker 2: Now when they been one month ago we saw it right,
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Speaker 2: or it was like six weeks ago, yeah, and two
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Speaker 2: weeks ago.
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Speaker 1: They should be very busy having a good time because
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Speaker 1: it's a whirlwind after they come back. They're doing promotional appearances,
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Speaker 1: making speeches, they're on doing interviews. This should be the
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Speaker 1: fun time.
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Speaker 2: And they're in their honeymoon phase, and it.
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Speaker 1: Seems as if things have fallen off the rails. Amaya
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Speaker 1: and Brian have unfollowed each other. Pepe and Iris have
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Speaker 1: unfollowed each other. Pepe and Iris weren't they made maybe
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Speaker 1: the second most part excuse not by the vote, But
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm only going by anecdotal evidence. Around me,
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Speaker 1: people seem to really be crazy about you.
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Speaker 2: You know, you know what they liked about this couple.
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Speaker 2: And I'm speaking specifically with my daughter and her friends
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Speaker 2: explaining to me that there was almost no drama with them.
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Speaker 2: You didn't hear any of the back and forth. They
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Speaker 2: just seemed like they were more mature and they perhaps
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Speaker 2: maybe had a relationship that seemed based in genuine feelings
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Speaker 2: versus the drama and the follows and the look at
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Speaker 2: me kind of antics that we saw from other folks.
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Speaker 1: Iris seems sweet she did no drama iris.
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Speaker 2: No drama, none whatsoever. And that's rare in these shows,
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Speaker 2: and honestly, it's it's probably not preferred by the producers.
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Speaker 2: So it actually probably takes quite a bit of restraint
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Speaker 2: to not get into all of the mess that usually unfolds.
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Speaker 1: All right, So let's start there with Maya and Brian,
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Speaker 1: which was maybe a pretty significant headline that didn't come
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Speaker 1: out of watching the reunion special. It's come out of
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Speaker 1: a lot of fans and social media watchers see that
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Speaker 1: these two have stopped following each other robes. They were
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Speaker 1: following each other online up until a day or two
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Speaker 1: before this special actually airs, So in the past forty
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Speaker 1: eight hours these two were following each other. They taped
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Speaker 1: a special and everything seemed fine. It aired last night
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Speaker 1: and they just stopped following each other.
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Speaker 2: And on the special last night, they squashed these rumors
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Speaker 2: that Brian had cheated on a Maya because there was
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Speaker 2: video that surfaced and he was with two of the
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Speaker 2: other guys from Chris was among them who were on
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Speaker 2: the show with them. They were at some club, was
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Speaker 2: it in Baltimore somewhere, and he was pouring drinks bottle
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Speaker 2: service drinks into other people's mouths, et cetera. He said
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Speaker 2: he did. He APOLOGI women, of course women, he apologized
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Speaker 2: for doing that, said it was a lapse in judgment.
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Speaker 2: And we heard from Amaya saying, you know, hey, I
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Speaker 2: would not I would not be with somebody who disrespected me.
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Speaker 2: So we've figured it out between the two of us,
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Speaker 2: and we're all good.
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Speaker 1: Am I not the only one who noted? And again,
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Speaker 1: they moved on from this fairly quickly. And I would say,
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Speaker 1: am I the only one that noticed? I just felt
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Speaker 1: when it first came up. Amaya's laugh was nervous. It
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Speaker 1: was uncomfortable. Yes, maybe just because she knew the question
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Speaker 1: was coming, or because she knew something we didn't know
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Speaker 1: at the time, but that stood. I didn't know about
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Speaker 1: the unfollowing each other before we watched the special.
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Speaker 2: Either, did I.
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Speaker 1: So I go back and I'm looking at moments that
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Speaker 1: jumped out at me, and I go, hmm, maybe it
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Speaker 1: was just it was awkward, obviously, but they seemed to
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Speaker 1: say they moved past it, and apparently Robes they have not.
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Speaker 2: Something happened. We don't know what it was, but who
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Speaker 2: knows how much they're reading the reaction to things as
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Speaker 2: well as they unfold. So we just as far as
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Speaker 2: we understand, the winners and the two people who seemed
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Speaker 2: madly in love with one another are no longer.
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Speaker 1: Pepe and Iris Le's mentioned them as well. They I
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Speaker 1: believe they said during the special that they we're exclusive?
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Speaker 1: Now did they not?
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Speaker 2: So here was the one perhaps crack in their foundation
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Speaker 2: that was exposed last night. So we heard them say
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Speaker 2: yes that they were exclusive, But then we did hear
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Speaker 2: Iris as the host pushed. Andy Cohen pushed, hey, does
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Speaker 2: that mean your boyfriend and girlfriend? And Iris basically said
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Speaker 2: that's what she wanted, and Pepe said he didn't think
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Speaker 2: it was necessary. That's a huge red flag. The guy
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Speaker 2: you're seeing, who you're exclusive with is not agreeing to
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Speaker 2: actually take on the official title of boyfriend because he
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Speaker 2: doesn't think it's necessary. Iris said she wanted him to
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Speaker 2: ask her. She was waiting for him. I don't understand
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Speaker 2: this is some new gen Z thing where you want
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Speaker 2: to be like you know, we've seen this on Love Island,
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Speaker 2: and honestly, this is all new for me where they
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Speaker 2: go through this elaborate thing where they ask you to
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Speaker 2: be will you be my girlfriend? It's almost like what
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Speaker 2: we used to put to a proposal for marriage is
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Speaker 2: now a proposal to be my girlfriend. You know, I
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Speaker 2: think it started with promposals. Women are expecting a lot
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Speaker 2: of women think that a man should make some grand
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Speaker 2: gesture to ask them to proposal, take on a title.
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Speaker 2: So last night what aired, I saw Pepe squirming away
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Speaker 2: from that, not wanting to admit or commit to saying yes,
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Speaker 2: she's my girl.
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Speaker 1: If he committed to being committed.
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Speaker 2: I don't understand the difference between being exclusive and having
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Speaker 2: a boyfriend or girlfriend. To me, if we're exclusive, we're
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Speaker 2: boyfriend girlfriend, What would be the why would you not
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Speaker 2: call that person then your girlfriend if you're exclusive.
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Speaker 1: Maybe some people just aren't into labels. Ace seems to be.
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Speaker 1: Of course, this was smiling Ace, these two, you know,
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Speaker 1: speaking to your point. He did a very elaborate yes
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Speaker 1: be my girlfriend thing, But he said last night this
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Speaker 1: was a moment that was worth it was a sweeter moment.
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Speaker 1: Asked about his girlfriend, Yes, this is your first girlfriend,
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Speaker 1: and he said it'll be his last. And they were
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Speaker 1: some they were alluding to, suggesting that something big was coming,
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Speaker 1: or he had or she even said he likes to
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Speaker 1: do things big, and he said something's coming, So they
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Speaker 1: alluded to the fact they might be going to the
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Speaker 1: next level.
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Speaker 2: Who knows. But they did look I mean, they weren't
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Speaker 2: happy about a lot of other things that were being said,
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Speaker 2: but in terms of their relationship, they actually did look
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Speaker 2: very happy and cute together. Nick and Orlandria did too. Actually,
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Speaker 2: but they're a little fuzzy. They're not really getting specific
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Speaker 2: at all about what they are, what their relationship actually is,
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Speaker 2: because if obviously, if you're listening to this, you know
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Speaker 2: the show, Well, they did not start off together. They
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Speaker 2: were just friends. They kind of were thrown together after
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Speaker 2: being put in a position where neither one of them
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Speaker 2: had a mate for different reasons.
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Speaker 1: Then they both get kicked out. They got kicked out,
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Speaker 1: and then whatever, they changed the rules and let them.
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Speaker 2: Come back, come back as a couple. Yes, but they
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Speaker 2: claim it's not a fake relationship. We just don't know
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Speaker 2: how the relationship is defined.
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Speaker 1: They are not right. They're not defining it. No boyfriend
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Speaker 1: and girlfriend, no exclusive. They just said we are taking
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Speaker 1: what the natural course that our relationship or dating would
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Speaker 1: have taken.
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Speaker 2: I don't even know if it's romantic. I mean, I
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Speaker 2: think that's a question. Is it just a deep friendship
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Speaker 2: that's got some benefits from a social financial professional, or
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Speaker 2: is it is it or growing relationships?
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Speaker 1: And he's trying to give what was the line it
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Speaker 1: kind of called my attention. He said, I'm trying to
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Speaker 1: give her everything that she wants. Or how about the
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Speaker 1: experience of they going skydiving and doing things, and.
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Speaker 2: He again, things that friends do, close friends, deep friends.
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Speaker 2: I don't know that we've seen any evidence that it's
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Speaker 2: more than that.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, they spend a lot of time answering all
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Speaker 1: the doubters like robot over here about their relationship. But
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Speaker 1: look from the moment, from the very beginning, they've been
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Speaker 1: answering those questions. They look like cool, happy people. If
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Speaker 1: it ends up romantic or not, I don't care.
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Speaker 2: I don't care either if it works for them. They
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Speaker 2: look great together. It looks like they're having a blast together.
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Speaker 2: I think that's amazing.
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Speaker 1: I do want to speak on why this road we yes.
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Speaker 1: Ariano Mattos is the host does a great job of
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Speaker 1: the episodes that come out. Geez I think does a
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Speaker 1: great job. She does what she's supposed to do, but
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Speaker 1: so much of it is her. The walk she does
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Speaker 1: from the car to the fire pit.
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Speaker 2: It's the outfit, it's the hair. She knows it, the
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Speaker 2: walk is, she knows what her role is and she
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Speaker 2: plays it well.
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Speaker 1: Last night they brought in Andy Cohen. Can you remind
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Speaker 1: me have they done these before? And there's always a
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Speaker 1: two host situation. I actually don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't have I watched another reunion.
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Speaker 2: This has been I mean, we both watched season six,
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Speaker 2: but I can't remember the reunion and I don't know
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Speaker 2: if they have brought in Andy Cohen before.
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Speaker 1: Okay, this was a look. They had time to edit
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Speaker 1: and put it together. There was I actually did not
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Speaker 1: necessarily appreciate or didn't need to see a lot of
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Speaker 1: the castle of more people, the people from the.
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Speaker 2: Extra basically the people who were there to tempt yes
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Speaker 2: the other or the islanders.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't a whole lot there didn't need that. They
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Speaker 1: crowded the couch a little ugly. It just didn't need that.
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Speaker 1: It was unnecessary. I was more interested, and that's fine,
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Speaker 1: one of those updates, but I didn't necessarily need that.
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Speaker 1: And again, it just felt there was a lack of
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Speaker 1: flow and chemistry. And I know it probably had. Who knows,
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Speaker 1: They probably sat there all day and talked but only
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Speaker 1: had to edit it down to two hours, so there
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Speaker 1: might have been a lot of jumpy cuts, but something
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Speaker 1: about a free, willing, free flowing conversation. It just felt
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Speaker 1: very disjointed at times, and it felt like they were
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Speaker 1: trying to pull teeth and get something out of them
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Speaker 1: at times because they were being so careful. Sometimes they
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Speaker 1: would ask a question, well, what did you think about
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Speaker 1: that person? When they said you were lazy? I said,
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Speaker 1: you know what, I didn't hear it, and I did right.
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Speaker 1: They were trying to start fights, if you will, and
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Speaker 1: pick them unnaturally. And again, we've watched enough of these
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Speaker 1: shows to see them go really well and go off
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Speaker 1: the rails, and even when they're yelling at each other,
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Speaker 1: it could still be a good, well produced show. But
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Speaker 1: this one it would seem I don't know so many people,
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Speaker 1: and just the flow wasn't what I've seen.
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Speaker 2: Before, you know, there were so many awkward silences. We
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Speaker 2: actually thought that it was a quick turnaround, that maybe
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Speaker 2: they taped it earlier in the day and put it
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Speaker 2: out at night because they didn't want any leaks getting out.
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Speaker 2: So it was surprising actually to know that they had
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Speaker 2: two weeks to edit it and that was the best
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Speaker 2: version they could put out with some of those awkward,
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Speaker 2: awkward moments, And yes, those awkward moments are telling, But
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Speaker 2: I think the overall theme for me was, yes, there
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Speaker 2: were too many people on stage. We know, as folks
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Speaker 2: who have hosted live events with a lot of folk,
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Speaker 2: the more people you have, the harder it is, the
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Speaker 2: more difficult it is to manage and to know who's
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Speaker 2: going to speak next and when to fill the It's
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Speaker 2: so hard. That is such a hard job to do.
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Speaker 2: But now you've got all of these people who have
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Speaker 2: invested interest personal interest in trying to defend their character,
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Speaker 2: and so now everyone is on pins and needles. Everyone's
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Speaker 2: there in defense mode. No one wants to say the
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Speaker 2: wrong thing, and no one wants to make their situation
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Speaker 2: worse if they've been vilified or if they have haters.
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Speaker 2: You saw real tears, people who had extremely hurt feelings
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Speaker 2: and not even necessarily about what went on in the show,
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Speaker 2: And that was certainly a part of it. But what
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Speaker 2: happened after the show that people were so upset about.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there was just a lot of hurt feelings and.
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Speaker 1: Folks, I know we've talked a little bit here already,
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Speaker 1: and we haven't talked a whole hell of a lot
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Speaker 1: about the person being talked about, a whole hell of
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Speaker 1: a lot. Houda, who is as we speak, as we
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Speaker 1: are recording this the morning after the special airs, she
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Speaker 1: is still the number one trending thing on x as
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Speaker 1: we speak, So we will speak about her next and
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Speaker 1: what was her weird Netflix moment on Peacock? Continuing now,
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Speaker 1: the reunion. We finally got the much anticipated reunion to
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Speaker 1: see how the Love Island couples that we all just
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Speaker 1: fell in love with two months ago, see how they
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Speaker 1: were doing. Apparently two months later, a lot of them
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Speaker 1: have fallen out out of love already rolled this, I
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Speaker 1: was surprised. I watched the special and then saw coverage
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Speaker 1: this morning. It's like, wait a minute, those people stop
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Speaker 1: following each other.
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Speaker 2: I was a little shocked as well, definitely by Irish
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Speaker 2: and Pepe. I was really floored by that one. I
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Speaker 2: was shocked that they're no longer together.
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Speaker 1: And I guess it's possible it's part of some promotional
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Speaker 1: thing they're doing. Maybe they just wanted to get a
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Speaker 1: little attention. Maybe there's a rhyme and reason to why
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Speaker 1: they did it, but we all know generally what that
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Speaker 1: means when folks stop following each other. Yes, and that
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Speaker 1: makes headlines. You don't have to put out a statement
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Speaker 1: about your relationship. All you do is unfollow something. I
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Speaker 1: don't follow you, now I actually do.
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Speaker 2: A Wow, you just made that an easy getaway for yourself.
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Speaker 1: Cool, But if I start following you, that would raise
17:53
Speaker 1: eyebrows as well.
17:54
Speaker 2: With this, No, I think they'd say it's about time.
17:56
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, let's get back to these couples. Uh, Hooda
18:00
Speaker 1: and Chris. We know, of course what happened at the
18:03
Speaker 1: end of the season. You know, I didn't leave. They
18:06
Speaker 1: had that nasty date or whatever at the end, but
18:09
Speaker 1: they seemed like they'd be able to walk away and
18:11
Speaker 1: say we understand respect, we're not going to be in
18:15
Speaker 1: a relationship. But they seemed to leave on good terms.
18:17
Speaker 2: Oh the finale, I thought it was phenomenal. Yes, yes,
18:20
Speaker 2: I thought that what Chris had to say, you know,
18:23
Speaker 2: what she had to say to him was actually really
18:25
Speaker 2: beautiful and I respected the hell out of both of
18:28
Speaker 2: them for being able to stand up and say the
18:29
Speaker 2: things they did. So yeah, it was disturbing to see
18:32
Speaker 2: them not even be able to sit within a few
18:34
Speaker 2: inches of each other.
18:35
Speaker 1: It said a tone. It was a rot row. As
18:37
Speaker 1: soon as you saw the image, you didn't even have
18:39
Speaker 1: to hear them start talking. But you saw every couple
18:41
Speaker 1: at least they had on stage at the moment, sitting
18:43
Speaker 1: next to each other. And then there's one couch where
18:45
Speaker 1: there's a couple sitting in the middle Hoodahs on one
18:48
Speaker 1: side of the couple. Chris is on the other end
18:51
Speaker 1: of that couch.
18:51
Speaker 2: It just even how they were seated, it was awkward,
18:53
Speaker 2: like Chris didn't even get his own seat. He was like,
18:56
Speaker 2: he was like like a third wheel, third wheel on
18:58
Speaker 2: the couch. But yeah, Chris said that he did not
19:01
Speaker 2: think that a friendship between them was possible, which was
19:04
Speaker 2: clearly evidenced by their physical distance.
19:06
Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't that funny. It was. It's one thing
19:08
Speaker 1: to say we can't be friends. It was funny to
19:10
Speaker 1: me when he was asked, and just how quickly he responded, Look,
19:14
Speaker 1: you guys gonna be friends. No, we're not.
19:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not possible. He was not possible.
19:18
Speaker 1: Always liked his demeanor. He's always chill, calm, no matter
19:20
Speaker 1: what he was saying, and he was kind of that
19:22
Speaker 1: again last night.
19:23
Speaker 2: I like that, Yes, in very much the yend to
19:26
Speaker 2: Hoodah's yang. The hurricane Huda is how she was referred
19:31
Speaker 2: to throughout the broadcast. Actually, and certainly that's a moniker
19:34
Speaker 2: that's stuck with her on social media. But when Andy
19:37
Speaker 2: Cohen asked after Chris said now we can't be friends,
19:41
Speaker 2: he asked Huda if she was dating anyone, if she
19:43
Speaker 2: was seeing anyone, and her response through everyone, including Andy Cohen,
19:48
Speaker 2: she said, it's Netflix. I'm not supposed to talk about it,
19:53
Speaker 2: and Cohen kept following up and eventually he said, tell Netflix,
19:56
Speaker 2: this was the number one streaming show of the summer.
19:58
Speaker 2: But it was bizarre, and upon further research, it appears
20:02
Speaker 2: that Huda is dating, or at least was seen on
20:06
Speaker 2: the red carpet with a star of Netflix show Perfect Match.
20:12
Speaker 2: So it must be something. I don't even know who
20:14
Speaker 2: Lewis Russell is, but apparently that's so. She was already
20:17
Speaker 2: seen on the red carpet with. So it's not like
20:19
Speaker 2: it's some secret or anything.
20:20
Speaker 1: And you remind me what Perfect Match is, I actually
20:23
Speaker 1: don't know.
20:24
Speaker 2: It's it's another dating show and we haven't watched it yet,
20:27
Speaker 2: so I don't know the premise of it. But it
20:29
Speaker 2: isn't it's it's Netflix's dating She's.
20:32
Speaker 1: In the middle of airing now, is it not?
20:34
Speaker 2: As I believe?
20:35
Speaker 1: Okay, so this guy Lewis Russell, whoever he is, and
20:38
Speaker 1: you say they showed up on a red carpet together,
20:40
Speaker 1: as I suggesting they're dating. They're walking around holding hands
20:44
Speaker 1: when I'm not. We're not stupid. We see this happening.
20:47
Speaker 1: So it's fine, But you are walking around holding hands
20:51
Speaker 1: with somebody, It's fair to assume that you might be
20:54
Speaker 1: dating that person. When you hold hands with somebody in
20:57
Speaker 1: front of cameras at a movie premiere, you are telling
21:02
Speaker 1: people that you're dating this person. Fine, you're asked directly
21:06
Speaker 1: that question. This was awkward and unnecessary.
21:10
Speaker 2: I can't speak about my relationship outside the villa, says
21:15
Speaker 2: who is basically what Andy Cohen says, And she said Netflix.
21:19
Speaker 1: I was trying to piece together and I don't know
21:21
Speaker 1: if he's in the middle of some season on a
21:24
Speaker 1: dating show on Netflix and he is walking out now
21:29
Speaker 1: revealing essentially that he's not with anybody from the show
21:32
Speaker 1: because he's now dating somebody else.
21:34
Speaker 2: Gone on the red carpet. Yes, that's probably what it is.
21:37
Speaker 2: But then don't go on a red carpet together.
21:39
Speaker 1: Okay, so then I'm confused. But it was a really
21:41
Speaker 1: awkward and it put her in a weird position. It
21:43
Speaker 1: just came off really, it was really off putting.
21:46
Speaker 2: Yes, she it didn't make her look good.
21:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just a li It.
21:50
Speaker 2: Seemed to bitchy, even though if it might not have been,
21:53
Speaker 2: it might have been perfectly okay for her to but
21:56
Speaker 2: maybe she could have she should have been prepared for
21:57
Speaker 2: the question. Yeah, I would love to tell you all
22:01
Speaker 2: about them, but that's going to have to come and
22:03
Speaker 2: do time. Like that's all she you know it could
22:05
Speaker 2: have been to do.
22:06
Speaker 1: So you know, it made it come across like she
22:07
Speaker 1: was an opportunist. She'll do what she has to do.
22:10
Speaker 1: She'll say what she has today, say anytime she wants,
22:13
Speaker 1: but I'll be quiet to make this money. Nobody could
22:16
Speaker 1: ever get her to stop talking. That wasn't not to complain,
22:18
Speaker 1: Hurricane Hudo. Now we ask you one question and nothing,
22:23
Speaker 1: So it was a Again, we don't know that backstory,
22:26
Speaker 1: We don't know it all, but we just saw what
22:28
Speaker 1: we saw in that moment last night, and that moment
22:31
Speaker 1: wasn't a good looking one, so maybe there's a I
22:34
Speaker 1: don't know how even if she's dating them, how can
22:36
Speaker 1: Netflix tell her to shut up unless she has something
22:40
Speaker 1: in the works netflick exactly.
22:42
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I was thinking, that there was
22:43
Speaker 2: some sort of stake in it for her. The other
22:45
Speaker 2: interesting thing, as long as we're on the topic of
22:48
Speaker 2: hurricane hood, one of my favorite moments Andy Cohen had,
22:51
Speaker 2: You know, it's all about the follow up. When you're
22:52
Speaker 2: a journalist, you can ask the question, but it's your
22:54
Speaker 2: follow up that usually creates a moment. And they show
23:00
Speaker 2: Hohodah's montage of Hurricane hoo to all of her moments
23:04
Speaker 2: where she lost her cool, called people names, cursed. He asked.
23:10
Speaker 2: Andy Cohen said, you know, how are you responding to
23:15
Speaker 2: this now that you see it all collectively in a
23:17
Speaker 2: montage like that, And she was just saying, I've done
23:20
Speaker 2: so much self reflection. I've done so much work on
23:23
Speaker 2: myself since the villa. And he kind of jumped in
23:25
Speaker 2: and he said, so you did a month of self
23:28
Speaker 2: reflection and you're a better person now. That was a
23:31
Speaker 2: big singer. She acted as if she had just emerged
23:34
Speaker 2: a better, stronger person and it's only been a couple
23:36
Speaker 2: of weeks.
23:37
Speaker 1: I'll give Andy Cohen here credit. And none of these
23:42
Speaker 1: points was he being a smart ass. It wasn't as
23:45
Speaker 1: if he was attacking her.
23:46
Speaker 2: No, yeah, wait, he genuinely was asking you a question.
23:49
Speaker 1: So you're but he asked a question that I think
23:52
Speaker 1: so often you and I have when we're watching I'm
23:54
Speaker 1: sure many of you have when you're watching these reunion
23:56
Speaker 1: shows that people come back on them and all of
23:58
Speaker 1: a sudden, they're a new person that I have found
24:01
Speaker 1: and unfound. God some say they do, but I've done
24:04
Speaker 1: a lot of work and self reflection. And that's great,
24:06
Speaker 1: and that can happen, but it almost it's said to
24:10
Speaker 1: the point that you all, it just goes in one
24:12
Speaker 1: ear and out the other. When you hear folks come on,
24:14
Speaker 1: it seems like this is the line they've been fed.
24:16
Speaker 1: This is what you're supposed to say, Show that you're different,
24:19
Speaker 1: show that you've come around, and to think that after
24:21
Speaker 1: a month, I'm a different person. Look, I'm sure she's
24:24
Speaker 1: doing work, but I'm just defending Andy Cohen. He wasn't
24:26
Speaker 1: being an answer.
24:27
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, And if and if that made it
24:29
Speaker 2: seem like I was saying so no. I think he
24:31
Speaker 2: asked the follow up that all of us at home
24:33
Speaker 2: on the couch watching, we're thinking, we wanted to ask it,
24:36
Speaker 2: and he asked it for us. And look, I do
24:39
Speaker 2: wonder how many of these people, and I don't know
24:41
Speaker 2: who to might be very sincere and genuine, and she
24:43
Speaker 2: might have done a lot of work in these few
24:45
Speaker 2: weeks and really dug in. But it is one thing.
24:48
Speaker 2: It is something to see yourself, you know, to see
24:50
Speaker 2: a video of your worst moments, to see a video
24:52
Speaker 2: of how badly you've behaved. Maybe you don't even realize
24:55
Speaker 2: it until you see it and then you I get
24:57
Speaker 2: that that can be a real thing. But I won't
25:00
Speaker 2: know how many of these folks come out and get
25:01
Speaker 2: media trained. They see what people are saying, they get
25:04
Speaker 2: someone to help them, and then they know exactly what
25:05
Speaker 2: to say and how to say it. And it's not authentic.
25:07
Speaker 2: So that's the that's the turn off with some of
25:10
Speaker 2: this stuff. You see people just changing who they are
25:14
Speaker 2: or being on their best behavior, or monitoring what they
25:19
Speaker 2: are and acting as if that's a change in them,
25:21
Speaker 2: a true change them. When truly, they're just presenting a
25:23
Speaker 2: different side, a curated side of themselves.
25:26
Speaker 1: I would love to give them all the benefit of
25:28
Speaker 1: the doubt that maybe they are doing something different, doing
25:30
Speaker 1: something better. I do, but I will tell you as well.
25:33
Speaker 1: And maybe I was duped and silly for it, but
25:36
Speaker 1: to actually think these folks had hope, that it was real,
25:40
Speaker 1: that there was possibility that they were on their way,
25:43
Speaker 1: I actually did. So when you invest in people like that,
25:46
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm rooting for I mean, you know how
25:48
Speaker 1: much I like Chris?
25:50
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Chris was great.
25:51
Speaker 1: Always liked him. When you're rooting for people in that way,
25:54
Speaker 1: just like Analyst is crazy about Pepe and Iris, right,
25:57
Speaker 1: everybody is. You get so attached and you see something
26:00
Speaker 1: didn't go right, and we know it possibly can't. But
26:02
Speaker 1: when you see it doesn't go right, based on all
26:05
Speaker 1: the things you thought would be out of their way happened.
26:08
Speaker 1: What do we always say? As soon as I always say,
26:10
Speaker 1: so we are if they send us to an island,
26:13
Speaker 1: be together, we will live happily forever. What is the problem?
26:18
Speaker 2: Right?
26:18
Speaker 1: You give these people their phones, all of a sudden,
26:20
Speaker 1: the whole world is now impacting your relationship and your
26:24
Speaker 1: family unit you had on the island, and sure enough
26:28
Speaker 1: it all goes to shit. So this means was it
26:30
Speaker 1: not real? Can it not really stand up in the
26:32
Speaker 1: real world? That is where Yeah, love Island that special.
26:36
Speaker 1: Almost wish I hadn't watched it.
26:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, because self interest ends up ruling, you know, in
26:41
Speaker 2: human nature, that is what tends to happen. And if
26:44
Speaker 2: you don't have this deep rooted relationship that was based
26:47
Speaker 2: in I mean based in reality. I know that sounds
26:51
Speaker 2: funny because we're watching a reality show, but oftentimes if
26:56
Speaker 2: you don't have that foundation, if you don't have that history,
26:58
Speaker 2: if you don't have that community around you supporting you,
27:01
Speaker 2: self interest will will shoot up and we'll just torpedo
27:06
Speaker 2: a relationship. Because if you want to have a relationship,
27:08
Speaker 2: you have to have the best interest in the person
27:10
Speaker 2: who you're with, not in yourself, and.
27:12
Speaker 1: It's hard to do that in six eight weeks on
27:15
Speaker 1: an island. Of course, you just can't, but just see
27:17
Speaker 1: it play out, like.
27:18
Speaker 2: These are new relationships.
27:20
Speaker 1: But to see it play out, you could be hopeful.
27:22
Speaker 1: But that this is I guess you talked about it.
27:26
Speaker 1: Sometimes women get caught up in the fantasy, but this
27:28
Speaker 1: is like a reality check for everybody. See what happens,
27:33
Speaker 1: See what happens when you fall too fast, too hard,
27:36
Speaker 1: when you do this too quickly, when you're in a
27:38
Speaker 1: rush and you think it's all in your gut. I'm
27:40
Speaker 1: gonna be with them forever, and one online video crushes us.
27:45
Speaker 2: Yeah no, I mean there are the reason why we
27:48
Speaker 2: like these shows. Yes, they're entertaining, but I really do
27:51
Speaker 2: we really do learn things about human nature, even a
27:55
Speaker 2: fledgling relationship, even a relationship starting on TV with just
27:58
Speaker 2: a few weeks. It's it's you still see human behavior
28:03
Speaker 2: that is fascinating that we all have within us, that
28:05
Speaker 2: we can all check in ourselves. So I like these
28:08
Speaker 2: shows for that reason because Yay, they're fun to watch,
28:11
Speaker 2: But also I really do try to see things that
28:16
Speaker 2: I can recognize in other people that somehow I can say, whoops,
28:20
Speaker 2: I do that too. Ooof I've done that before. Wow,
28:23
Speaker 2: I never want to do that again. Like these are
28:25
Speaker 2: all cautionary tales in a lot of ways.
28:27
Speaker 1: It is. Love Island is a wonderful show that serves
28:29
Speaker 1: as a cautionary tale. Maybe it shouldn't be that, Maybe
28:32
Speaker 1: we shouldn't hold it up as something to aspire to
28:35
Speaker 1: to get to in relationships, but a cautionary.
28:37
Speaker 2: Tale, something to learn from it.
28:39
Speaker 1: We always we did several every single time we did
28:43
Speaker 1: say here were the relationship takeaway lessons we saw in
28:47
Speaker 1: each one, and here you go. The finale gave us
28:48
Speaker 1: one as well, which is love is hard. It really is.
28:53
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