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Impeachment Porn · Plausibly Live - The Dave Bowman Show Podcast

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  Right, But I think my son is just going through a phase.
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  I have no idea where he would have gotten a hold of German
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  pornography. But you and I are mature adults.
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  We've both seen our share of pornographic materials.
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  Oh, you never have. Of course you have.
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  And how stupid of me, neither have I.
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  I was just speaking in generalities.
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  Right. I'll stop by the school a little
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  later, Sister Margaret. Bye.
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  This is plausibly live. I think that I have been clear
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  through the years that the idea of impeachment is very
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  problematic and it is fraught with considerations that I don't
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  think most of us take into account in this business, the
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  conservative chat business. Many of my compatriots in this
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  business are, and have been pounding the drum for some time
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  that we must impeach Joe Biden. We must do it.
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  We must do it right now. And of course, there are
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  arguments for that. There are arguments against it.
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  Arguments for it are. Again, there is pretty clear
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  evidence of some type of criminal.
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  Corruption here, some type of high crimes and misdemeanors.
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  Whether you want to accept that or not is irrelevant to me.
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  If if what Andrew Johnson did was impeachable, then what Biden
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  did is impeachable. The arguments for it are of
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  course, generally couched in morality.
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  We have to do this because we have to have the rule of law,
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  and that was the argument with Trump.
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  No one is above the law, but at the same time.
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  The arguments against it are pretty straightforward as well.
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  You don't have the votes. You're not going to get a
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  conviction in an impeachment trial.
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  You're just not going to get it. Unless you have video of Joe
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  Biden punting Ukrainian puppies off the Kerch Bridge and you
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  don't. You're not going to get a
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  conviction. Ever.
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  So is it just a waste of money? Is it a waste of time?
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  Is it a morality play? What is it?
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  Which is why everyone was a a a GOG yesterday.
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  And this morning, although there are UFO hearings going on in the
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  on the on the Hill again today just means there's something
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  else going on that they don't want us to know about.
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  But yesterday, Kevin McCarthy announced that he was going to,
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  or that it was time to. Commence A Biden impeachment
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  inquiry. That is not an impeachment.
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  But he said that it's time to start looking into what's going
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  on, which I kind of thought they were already doing.
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  But you know, what do I know? I'm not a congressman.
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  With the the issues that are going on there.
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  This, of course, set off a flurry of discussion.
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  Both in the press and in the talk radio world, with McCarthy
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  floating this idea of an inquiry, inquiry, not an actual
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  impeachment. And of course the theory here is
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  that this will somehow or another placate those in the in
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  the conservative right who have been calling for this.
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  But it was also pointed out that this is not without risk.
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  That there are potential problems here, that there are
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  dangers involved with this idea. And of course, this is the
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  monkey in the wrench, isn't it? It's the it's the argument about
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  whether or not this should proceed or not.
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  Impeachment is not unique to America.
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  You need to understand that, and even in 1787.
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  We borrowed it from the British system, which Hamilton had said
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  at the convention is the best system, and we would do well to
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  emulate it. Of course that didn't go over
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  well, But when it came to this presidency thing, and we could
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  spend a lot of time on the debates and discussions over how
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  to elect a presidency, that's really the two debates.
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  How do we elect it? And what do we do when the guy
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  turns out not to be George Washington, as 46 of them have
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  done? What do we do when we got
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  somebody we got to get rid of because this person is is bad?
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  The convention had actually settled on these words.
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  Are you ready? Malpractice and neglect of duty.
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  Those were the two reasons to impeach a president.
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  When they went on their little vacation and they came back, the
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  Committee on Detail had massaged that a bit.
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  And they came up with these four reasons for impeachment,
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  treason, bribery, high crimes, and misdemeanors.
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  What they did not do was define really what at least two of
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  those mean. Treason and bribery are pretty
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  obvious, but what is a high crime?
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  What is a misdemeanor? And much like in theology,
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  everybody knows what it is, except that you can't tell me
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  what it is. Because it's different to every
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  person. It's like pornography.
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  Nobody can define it, but we all know it when we see it, right?
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  What's porn to you? Might not be to me.
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  What's a high crime to me? To me, might not be to you.
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  The other alternative for getting rid of a president, by
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  the way, Ben Franklin pointed out quite cogently, was look, we
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  can either impeach him or we can assassinate him.
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  There's problems with assassination, obviously, that
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  causes, you know. That comes with other problems,
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  and we don't really want to do that.
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  So we need this legal system, this constitutional system for
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  removing the president. They never really got back to
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  this debate over why malpractice and neglect of duty might
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  ultimately have made more sense, but the Committee on Detail
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  changed it. Treason, bribery, high climbs
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  and misdemeanors. It's not an assassination, but
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  impeachment is a political act. And we've seen through our
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  history the use of this political act now multiple times
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  in 1868. I'm sorry, it's the wrong slide.
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  In 1868, Andrew Johnson had become president upon the death
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  of Abraham Lincoln, was impeached by the House of
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  Representatives in February of 1868.
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  In March and in March through May, they held the trial and
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  ultimately Johnson was acquitted by one vote.
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  That's important to know, but what you need to understand is
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  why he was impeached. Now go back to those reasons.
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  Treason, bribery, high crimes and misdemeanors.
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  What were the actual charges that the House made against
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  Andrew Johnson? Anybody know Bueller?
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  Bueller article? He was accused of violating the
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  Tenure of Office Act, which required by law of the Senate's
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  approval for the removal of certain office holders which
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  hitherto. And subsequently we've, you
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  know, they serve at the at the pleasure of the president
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  specifically was Edward Stanton. That was the first article.
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  The second article was also accusing him of violating the
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  Tenure of Office Act. The third article of accused him
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  of violating the Tenure of Office Act.
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  And Article 4 accused Johnson of issuing certain quote bitter and
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  inflammatory speeches against Congress.
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  Which were intended to defeat the lawful measures of Congress,
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  UN quote. And in the last article he was
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  accused of, quote, bringing disgrace and ridicule to the
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  office of the presidency and to the United States government by
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  his aforementioned actions. That's what he was accused of.
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  That's what he was put on impeachment trial for now again,
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  treason, bribery, high crimes and misdemeanors.
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  The second time impeachment became an issue in our country
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  was, of course, under Richard Nixon now.
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  Richard Nixon was not impeached. Richard Nixon, I think one of
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  the things he does not get credit for is that he recognized
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  that he had violated his oath of office and he had failed in his
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  mission and rather than put the country through an impeachment
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  hearing, he resigned. Now maybe you could argue that
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  he was going to be impeached and he knew that and maybe there was
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  a deal with him and Ford. Who knows?
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  But the point is he was never actually impeached.
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  The articles impeachment were passed, but they were not voted
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  on by the entire House. He was accused of obstruction of
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  justice, abuse of power and contempt of Congress.
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  Now again, treason, bribery, high crimes and misdemeanors.
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  Do those fit well to that Congress in that era?
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  They did. Bill Clinton.
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  Many of us will remember this was impeached.
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  He was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice.
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  Those were the two things that he was accused of.
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  Again, they were not the votes in the Senate.
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  And there was much argument at the time about why are you doing
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  this? You do not have the votes,
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  you're not going to succeed. But the argument was very
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  moralistically put. We have to do this because no
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  one is above the law, which, of course, was the argument about
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  Donald Trump. Made by the same people who
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  didn't like that argument before that he was no, not above the
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  law, and he was put on trial the first time for quote, abuse of
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  power, specifically with regards to Ukraine and foreign policy,
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  and secondly for obstruction of justice.
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  And then the second time he was put on a trial for impeachment,
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  it was only for the incitement of the insurrection.
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  And that leads to. The real question, doesn't it,
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  because now you're now you're you're wondering where are we at
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  on all of this where what is the, the actual, I don't know
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  deal with with the with the president.
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  Is there an actual deal? Is there something that we
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  should actually be wondering about here?
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  Is there something that is? I don't know.
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  Perhaps impeachable do. Do his crimes rise to high
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  crimes and misdemeanors? Do his crimes rise to the ideas
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  that perhaps we should be talking about at this point?
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  Where are we at here? Is the real question in all of
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  this. Where are we at today that's
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  causing Kevin McCarthy? To look at Joe Biden and say
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  these things rise to the level of misdemeanors or high crimes,
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  and if they do, what are we going to do?
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  Now we go back to, again, the arguments are pretty
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  straightforward and we've had these discussions before.
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  There are no the vote. There are no votes in the Senate
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  to impeach Joe Biden. Again, unless you have video of
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  him punting Ukrainian puppies off the Kerch Bridge in Crimea
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  and you don't, there are no votes.
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  There's there's not going to be a conviction in an impeachment
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  trial. But impeachment is a political
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  act, not a criminal act. Do you understand that this is
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  about politics, not crimes? It uses crimes.
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  It uses language that makes you think that it's about criminal
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  activity, but it's really not. Andrew Johnson was impeached
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  because Edward Stanton was pissed off and didn't like
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  losing his job. You could argue about the Trump
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  impeachment. You could argue about the
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  Clinton impeachments. Was it about sex?
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  Was it not about sex? Does it matter?
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  It was a political calculation. Not a criminal calculation to
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  try and change the political equation to the advantage of the
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  folks who were trying the impeachment.
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  That's all it is. When you go back to the Trump
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  impeachment, there were never the votes to to succeed.
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  But now that you look at it through the lens of time, do you
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  understand that? They never.
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  They knew that from the beginning.
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  They knew that they were not going to impeach him either
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  time. And that wasn't the goal.
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  The goal was never to impeach President Trump.
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  It would have been nice if they had.
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  The real goal was to tie Republican candidates to Trump
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  so that they could ask on the campaign trail, do you support
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  President Trump or not? And if they did, then they could
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  say see Trumper and if he didn't they could say, well, he's lying
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  or. They assumed that he would lose
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  that candidate. He or she would lose ground with
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  the base. To a degree, it seems to have
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  worked. President Biden lost in 2020 and
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  we're not going to rehash that now.
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  But the the congressional elections clearly went against
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  the Republicans. Could the GOP be thinking in the
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  same terms when it comes to the Democrats in 2024?
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  You have so much evidence against Biden, supposedly, that
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  you impeach him. He's found not guilty, but you
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  begin to tie Democrat candidates to that.
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  Do you support Joe Biden and his criminal family, his son, his
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  dealings with Ukraine, his corruption?
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  Do you support that or not? Democrat candidate?
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  But I don't think that'll work this time.
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  I think that by the time this whole thing washes out.
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  It's going to be, and this is my opinion, take it for what it's
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  worth. I think it's going to be so
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  obvious that Biden is corrupt, cognitively lacking and
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  problematic that you're not going to be able to pin
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  Democratic candidates to him because they're going to reject
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  him too, even though he's going to be acquitted.
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  There's going to be enough people out there.
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  They're going to be start to be. Opeds that will talk about how
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  this guy's just too problematic. He's got too many issues, he's
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  too issues. He's got too many, you know,
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  problems for us to to continue to do this.
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  And we've got to go a different direction, which is, in my view,
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  the porno element to all this, the impeachment porn element to
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  all this. Now I am told I do not know
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  this, but I am told because I do.
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  Visit theCHIVE website and they make a lot of jokes about this
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  kind of. I'm told that step porn, you
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  know what I'm talking about. No, of course you don't, but so
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  I'll explain it to you. Stepmothers, step brothers, step
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  sisters, step porn is the end thing right now.
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  I don't know that for a fact, but it didn't take very long to
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  find that there are a lot of freaking movies about this out
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  there. And the idea here is that
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  someone is trying to trick someone else into doing
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  something that they want them to do sex by appealing to their
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  period interest. Okay you with me here.
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  I'm not trying to titillate you here, but I am trying to tell
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  you something, which is what I want you to take from all of
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  this step Porn is is the king of the porn Kingdom right now.
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  Again, I don't have any direct knowledge of that, but.
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  People who do have told me that this is the case, here is the
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  question that I'm asking myself right now.
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  What if Democrat Party steps stepmother step, brother,
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  stepfather, step, whatever, are what's really behind Kevin
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  McCarthy's inquiry into a into a impeachment?
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  In what way? Let me ask it to the perhaps a
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  different way. In what way does an impeachment
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  of Joe Biden hurt the Democrats at all?
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  Can anybody give me an answer? I know what you're going to say.
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  Well, it shows that they're corrupt and all that, but yeah,
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  but they're going to, they're not going to convict them, but
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  they're going to join with you. They know that there will be no
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  conviction. They know that.
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  What with what? That with what will come out in
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  an impeachment trial. They can join in the moral
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  outrage and even if they do impeach him, So what?
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  They know that Kamala can be controlled.
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  But if they don't convict him, So what?
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  Either there there's no way to to to really hurt him.
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  But they know that that removes both Biden and Harris from 2024.
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  There's no way that they can run again because again, the
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  candidates will be hit with Do you support Joe Biden and his
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  corrupt family or not? And with all the background of
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  Kamala, Can you imagine how that starts to come out?
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  Then how did you get to be, you know, attorney general of the
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  state of California? How did you get to be this?
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  How? Do you really want all that porn
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  flick stuff to come out? The Democrats don't.
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  But here's a way to get rid of their two problematic people,
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  Biden and Harris, without looking like they're trying to
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  get rid of them. And they can still poke at the
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  Republicans. So you're you're making stuff
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  up. They they can't lose.
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  It's win, win, win. They get to yell at Republicans,
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  They get Biden and Harris out of the way, and they open up their
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  field for 2024 for Gavin Newsom or whoever.
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  It's like a porno flick, folks. It really is.
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  And yes, I have seen pornos. I was on the boat.
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  It's designed to titillate and entertain you.
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  And here we are talking about it.
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  Here we are talking about this and not about Ufo's like
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  Congress is doing it today. And it's just impeachment
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  pornography. That's all it is.
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  Nobody can define it. We can't tell you what it is.
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  There's no absolute definition. Treason, bribery, high crimes,
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  misdemeanors. But we know it when we see it,
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  right? The bigger questions are #1 Do
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  we even care? Does anybody actually care about
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  all of this? I'm not sure anybody does, to be
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  honest with you. But the bigger question that I
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  have, particularly for Speaker McCarthy, is why?
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  You're already morally outraged. You already know you don't have
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  the votes. You already know that the
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  argument about morality and no one is above the law doesn't
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  work because Trump, Clinton, Nixon, Johnson, you you know
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  that argument doesn't work. What if the GOP?
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  By by doing this, by even entertaining, the idea is simply
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  playing into the hands of the more progressive wing of the
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  Democrat part. Now, theoretically they could
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  use it against it. Do you support Biden?
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  But those people are going to say, no, we don't support that
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  corruption. We don't believe in that kind of
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  thing. That's why we are here now.
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  That's why we have removed them from our candidacy.
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  And then what are you gonna do? Go back and watch more
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  impeachment porn.