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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, let's jump into it, man. Let's kick it
- 0:03Speaker 1: off with the investing fact of the week.
- 0:05Speaker 2: What you got? My four.
- 0:07Speaker 3: Number one, Trump has disclosed more than a thousand trades
- 0:10Speaker 3: in June, totaling up to 263 million, including Visa, Berkshire Hathaway, MasterCard,
- 0:17Speaker 3: and Census. Those first three, even though I don't agree
- 0:21Speaker 3: with the inside trading, well, he reported it, so it's
- 0:23Speaker 3: not inside trading, but the first three are great. Ray
- 0:26Speaker 3: Dalio has said to sell bonds And buy gold, which
- 0:30Speaker 3: I've told you for a long time. The all-weather portfolio
- 0:34Speaker 3: has had some issues. The bond coverage, I think, is
- 0:38Speaker 3: probably the weakest part of the portfolio. So I'm glad
- 0:41Speaker 3: he's saying this. Treasury may tap $ 1 trillion cash account
- 0:44Speaker 3: to buy bond buyback.
- 0:46Speaker 2: We'll talk about that in a little bit.
- 0:48Speaker 3: And the White House has stated that the Trump June
- 0:51Speaker 3: trades show no conflict of interest.
- 0:56Speaker 2: That's fascinating. Back to you, Farron.
- 0:59Speaker 1: You know, I saw that report this weekend and it
- 1:01Speaker 1: made me, you know, we covered that. I feel like
- 1:03Speaker 1: that was a month ago, maybe a month and a
- 1:05Speaker 1: half ago, when we were talking about the historical value
- 1:09Speaker 1: of presidents trading equities. And there was zero up until
- 1:15Speaker 1: this point. And then we got to the current president.
- 1:18Speaker 1: He was at like 3,000. And that was a month ago.
- 1:21Speaker 1: To have 1,000 trades in June?
- 1:24Speaker 2: It's insane, bro.
- 1:24Speaker 1: 1,000?
- 1:27Speaker 3: Like for context, for those who don't know, you can
- 1:29Speaker 3: go look and see what firms are trading, how much
- 1:32Speaker 3: Goldman didn't take a thousand trades.
- 1:34Speaker 2: And I'm going.
- 1:35Speaker 1: To be honest with you. I haven't made a thousand
- 1:37Speaker 1: trades in my life, bro. It's in my life for.
- 1:41Speaker 2: The month of June, bro.
- 1:45Speaker 3: Citadel hasn't made, they took over Leo's fund and dismantled it.
- 1:49Speaker 3: And with buying the portfolio and selling off, they didn't take.
- 1:53Speaker 2: A thousand trades. Bank of America has not taken a
- 1:56Speaker 2: thousand trades. It's crazy. Two Sigma, who that CEO is
- 2:01Speaker 2: going through a divorce issue.
- 2:02Speaker 3: We'll talk about it on Blackout. He hasn't went through
- 2:05Speaker 3: a thousand trades in a month of June. It is
- 2:08Speaker 3: interesting to say the least. But this bond market thing
- 2:13Speaker 3: is scary. I've been on this for a long time.
- 2:17Speaker 1: You have. You've been talking about the bond market and
- 2:21Speaker 1: we keep seeing the Treasury Secretary get on I feel
- 2:25Speaker 1: like he every time he wants to say something, it's
- 2:28Speaker 1: CNBC at eight o'clock.
- 2:30Speaker 2: On whatever morning the prime slot is.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Yeah, that prime slot. So we can talk about it.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Last week, it was trying to figure out how we're
- 2:37Speaker 1: going to lower yields. He got back this morning talking
- 2:39Speaker 1: about sanctions on Iran. What what are we actually seeing
- 2:43Speaker 1: with the bond market? Because a lot of people hear
- 2:44Speaker 1: the bomb. They have no idea what it is, how
- 2:47Speaker 1: it works, how it affects the economy or definitely the market.
- 2:50Speaker 2: What are we seeing? What are we hearing?
- 2:52Speaker 3: Now, essentially, when you look at the bond market, just
- 2:55Speaker 3: think of it as debt. But the thing that's interesting,
- 2:58Speaker 3: and I talked about it at InvestFest, we're seeing the
- 3:01Speaker 3: decay of securities and financial products go away in our lifetime.
- 3:06Speaker 3: Like I remember when my aunts would have CDs and
- 3:09Speaker 3: they would get 9% to 13% in a year. And
- 3:11Speaker 3: the thought was, well, I don't even really need to
- 3:12Speaker 3: invest in the market if I have a CD. Those
- 3:15Speaker 3: went away post-2008. So the bond market is supposed to
- 3:19Speaker 3: balance out the stock market, stocks and bonds. But now
- 3:24Speaker 3: ETFs are the hedge to the bond market. So you
- 3:28Speaker 3: have no diversification. The reason why it's scary for me
- 3:31Speaker 3: is that the bond market has been down for six
- 3:33Speaker 3: years and now we're currently at the 2007 levels for
- 3:38Speaker 3: an instrument.
- 3:38Speaker 2: That's supposed to be protected.
- 3:40Speaker 3: So like if you have an aunt or grandma that
- 3:42Speaker 3: has never watched Market Mondays or wasn't aware of me
- 3:46Speaker 3: talking about this, like someone tried to tell my mom
- 3:49Speaker 3: at the bank a couple of years ago to invest
- 3:51Speaker 3: in bonds.
- 3:51Speaker 2: She's like, They're no good. And they looked at her
- 3:53Speaker 2: like she was crazy.
- 3:55Speaker 3: And then the conversation started to happen amongst the bankers
- 3:58Speaker 3: in a six month or a year period that maybe
- 4:01Speaker 3: we should stop offering these to our clients because they're
- 4:04Speaker 3: not going up anytime soon. So to see, this is
- 4:08Speaker 3: like the brakes of the economy going away. And for
- 4:11Speaker 3: them to say, okay, now we're going to tap this
- 4:13Speaker 3: trillion dollar account. But no one will still, I've asked
- 4:17Speaker 3: every guest that has come on, every person I've talked
- 4:19Speaker 3: to in Stock Club that I've interviewed, What's the real
- 4:21Speaker 3: reason the bond market is going down?
- 4:23Speaker 2: No one has a clear answer.
- 4:25Speaker 3: This has been down for imagine if Microsoft had been
- 4:28Speaker 3: down for six years straight.
- 4:31Speaker 2: It would be.
- 4:31Speaker 3: Blood on the streets. So I think it's an issue
- 4:35Speaker 3: that needs to be addressed. And with the spending. We're
- 4:39Speaker 3: looking at the national debt being at 42 trillion and
- 4:43Speaker 3: maybe by the top of next year, something has to
- 4:46Speaker 3: be done. And I think this measures a little bit
- 4:49Speaker 3: too little too late.
- 4:50Speaker 2: What do you think?
- 4:51Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we watched it today and it felt
- 4:54Speaker 1: like last week when he spoke, we saw the market
- 4:59Speaker 1: respond in a positive way.
- 5:01Speaker 2: And he got on this morning and.
- 5:03Speaker 1: It kind of, you know, it was, I feel like
- 5:06Speaker 1: the strategies that they're using are becoming redundant and less effective.
- 5:11Speaker 1: And by that, I mean, right, one week to the next,
- 5:14Speaker 1: the reaction was different. We watched what, you know, the
- 5:18Speaker 1: tariffs did and that we're going to suspend them. And
- 5:22Speaker 1: the response that happened with that, we've seen the Iran, hey,
- 5:26Speaker 1: we're coming to a peace deal and maybe we're not,
- 5:27Speaker 1: we're going to extend this. The more you use these tactics,
- 5:30Speaker 1: the less efficient they become. And so at a certain point,
- 5:34Speaker 1: there's no more tactics you can use. And we're going
- 5:37Speaker 1: to have to face a real world scenario. And I
- 5:41Speaker 1: don't know what that is, but in my mind, I
- 5:43Speaker 1: keep hearing you say the bond market's in shambles and
- 5:45Speaker 1: nobody's saying shit.
- 5:46Speaker 2: That's all I keep hearing when I hear this.
- 5:50Speaker 1: Is that day now coming?
- 5:52Speaker 3: I think so, because now if you look internationally, you're
- 5:56Speaker 3: trying to force countries to take on our bonds. And
- 5:58Speaker 3: they're like, why wouldn't this is like the big short
- 6:01Speaker 3: all over again, except instead of the housing market being broken,
- 6:05Speaker 3: the bond market is being broken. And then even for
- 6:08Speaker 3: Trump to say, well, the bond market is safe because
- 6:11Speaker 3: we have warships.
- 6:12Speaker 2: I'm like, you can't bomb them into buying a financial product.
- 6:16Speaker 2: Sounds good.
- 6:16Speaker 3: But even to have to go to brute force for
- 6:20Speaker 3: a financial instrument tells me Something's wrong. Something is deeply
- 6:24Speaker 3: broken that they need to fix soon.
- 6:27Speaker 2: But I don't know if they will.
- 6:29Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they will. I think if you've
- 6:31Speaker 1: watched the history, especially if you look at every it
- 6:35Speaker 1: was it was great. I saw the statistic was every
- 6:37Speaker 1: Republican president over the past 20 years. If you look
- 6:40Speaker 1: at what the national debt has gone, it's risen under
- 6:44Speaker 1: every Republican president. And we're under that regime for the
- 6:48Speaker 1: next two years, two and a half years. And so
- 6:51Speaker 1: I would imagine that the debt is going to continue
- 6:53Speaker 1: to rise. And so now what is, how do we
- 6:56Speaker 1: combat that, right? Like you're putting Lutnik and you're putting
- 7:01Speaker 1: our new Fed chair in a very peculiar spot. And
- 7:05Speaker 1: they both, right? And those guys both used to work together.
- 7:08Speaker 1: Shout out to my man, Champ. I'm sure he sent
- 7:10Speaker 1: it to you as well. They come from the drunken military, right?
- 7:14Speaker 1: And he's that two of his his greatest protégés are
- 7:17Speaker 1: now pretty much the people who are in control of
- 7:19Speaker 1: the United States economy.
- 7:21Speaker 2: I mean, we could say that.
- 7:23Speaker 3: And their hands are tied behind their back. And also, too,
- 7:26Speaker 3: I'm not just beating up on Trump because, you know,
- 7:28Speaker 3: MAGA and all that. But when you have a person
- 7:30Speaker 3: who leads financially the way that he does and everything
- 7:32Speaker 3: ends up in bankruptcy, Novogratz told us this will happen.
- 7:37Speaker 2: Novogratz came on and told us, hey, he's traditionally been
- 7:41Speaker 2: a spender.
- 7:43Speaker 3: I don't see the debt going down under his regime,
- 7:45Speaker 3: and here we are. Then we can talk about Project 2025.
- 7:51Speaker 3: Some of that stuff is getting scary, and I'll say
- 7:54Speaker 3: for the next couple weeks, ease up on the ground beef.
- 7:58Speaker 2: Remember what I told Rashad?
- 8:00Speaker 3: Pause.
- 8:01Speaker 2: You got to pause that.
- 8:04Speaker 3: Y'all going to be eating horses. So, I just think
- 8:10Speaker 3: it's interesting to see the state of the economy. And
- 8:13Speaker 3: I talked about it on stock club, like the crash
- 8:15Speaker 3: that everyone needs to worry about is the crash of
- 8:17Speaker 3: the economy, but the S and P and accused, they're
- 8:20Speaker 3: going to do incredibly fine because you need somewhere to
- 8:23Speaker 3: place the money.
- 8:24Speaker 2: And now it's almost as if.
- 8:28Speaker 3: The selection of investments is really down to 20 things
- 8:31Speaker 3: in the world and the money has to be parked somewhere.
- 8:34Speaker 3: So they figured out a way how to stop a
- 8:36Speaker 3: stock market crash from happening, but an economic one, won't
- 8:40Speaker 3: be stopped anytime soon. All right.
- 8:42Speaker 1: So that brings us to our next piece, which is
- 8:44Speaker 1: interesting because we've been saying it for years, right? When
- 8:48Speaker 1: we see midterm years, traditionally the S & P, the
- 8:51Speaker 1: NASDAQ have had negative years, right? Especially in the midterm section.
- 8:57Speaker 1: This year has been kind of tricky. I'll be honest.
- 8:59Speaker 1: We've been covering it for every month, every week, which
- 9:03Speaker 1: feels like, I don't, it just feels very different. We
- 9:06Speaker 1: thought the second half of 2026 was, Might be a
- 9:09Speaker 1: little volatile. It happened early in July, which is traditionally
- 9:12Speaker 1: a great month. August, I mean, we're at the 24th
- 9:15Speaker 1: of August, and usually we see a lot more volatility.
- 9:18Speaker 1: We're seeing some, but it still is trended positive. Volatility
- 9:22Speaker 1: usually hits us in September.
- 9:24Speaker 2: We'll see.
- 9:25Speaker 1: What's your thoughts around midterm elections, how we go into them,
- 9:29Speaker 1: which we'll find out who is taking the new seat
- 9:33Speaker 1: or who's retaining their seat in early November, and then
- 9:36Speaker 1: what happens post yeah midterm elections.
- 9:39Speaker 3: I think post midterms is probably the easiest to answer
- 9:41Speaker 3: i think historically post has always done well and i
- 9:44Speaker 3: think post this midterm election the market is going to
- 9:47Speaker 3: do incredibly well this midterm is different because the crashes
- 9:52Speaker 3: are lasting a lot less so we started to fall
- 9:56Speaker 3: july 17th we fell up until what the 29th of July.
- 10:01Speaker 3: And then we went, we took off to the races.
- 10:04Speaker 3: Normally that rut or that drought would last the entire
- 10:07Speaker 3: month or 14, 15 days.
- 10:10Speaker 2: We're not seeing that.
- 10:11Speaker 3: And I was expressing to stock club call, like any
- 10:13Speaker 3: crash that we get now, they're not lasting as long
- 10:15Speaker 3: as they used to.
- 10:16Speaker 2: We used to get a two month down cycle.
- 10:19Speaker 3: I think the retail trader who is like almost as
- 10:25Speaker 3: good enough to work at a fund.
- 10:26Speaker 2: It's a lot of them there.
- 10:27Speaker 3: I think for the first time in history, the most
- 10:30Speaker 3: million dollar accounts on a retail side are present on brokerages.
- 10:34Speaker 3: So there's a lot of great traders, a lot of
- 10:36Speaker 3: great investors. I know we played our part in that,
- 10:39Speaker 3: but I think people are taking these opportunities to buy
- 10:42Speaker 3: these dips and seeing a tremendous upside and the buying
- 10:45Speaker 3: power is just so high that we're not having a
- 10:47Speaker 3: normal cycle. Also for the first time in history, You
- 10:51Speaker 3: have a president go on TV and say, buy stocks.
- 10:56Speaker 2: Buy stocks, buy crypto. That helps a hell of a lot.
- 11:01Speaker 3: And you can argue and say the days that he
- 11:02Speaker 3: told you to buy them, you can get really good
- 11:05Speaker 3: returns on the days that he bought them. Now, you
- 11:06Speaker 3: can argue that it's not right, and I would agree.
- 11:09Speaker 3: But I think once we look at the record books
- 11:11Speaker 3: and in history books, we have to factor in that
- 11:13Speaker 3: he is manipulating the market to tell people to buy.
- 11:17Speaker 2: So, allegedly. Thank you.
- 11:20Speaker 1: I feel like history might be being rewritten in real time.
- 11:30Speaker 1: It's interesting. Specifically, Bitcoin has had an amazing three or
- 11:36Speaker 1: four days here recently. We heard about the Clarity Act
- 11:40Speaker 1: and the September 15th deadline. Circle that on your calendar.
- 11:43Speaker 1: Whether that's going to improve all signs of.
- 11:45Speaker 2: That, it will be. You saw Coinbase.
- 11:48Speaker 1: The micro strategy, you saw the crypto.
- 11:52Speaker 2: Space move a little bit.
- 11:54Speaker 1: And when I looked at the crypto cycle and, you know,
- 11:57Speaker 1: having conversations with Austin, usually the third year is the
- 12:01Speaker 1: strongest year in the Bitcoin cycle. But last year was
- 12:04Speaker 1: the first time that the third year, you know, going
- 12:07Speaker 1: into it was it was in decline. Yeah.
- 12:10Speaker 2: OK, now we're rewriting history.
- 12:11Speaker 3: Right.
- 12:11Speaker 1: So what does history look like now? So I'm starting
- 12:14Speaker 1: to think about the marketing itself and, you know, we're
- 12:17Speaker 1: going into it. We think to ourselves,