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Inside The Tape With Greg Cosell: "If You Can't Protect, You Don't Have A Pass Game" · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Inside the Tape on Inside the Birds. I'm
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  Speaker 2: Jeff Mosher, of course, with Adam Kaplan, and we are
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  Speaker 2: breaking down tape. So you know what that means. We
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  Speaker 2: have Greg Cosell, who is going to, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if it's breaking down the tape or sifting through the
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  Speaker 2: carnage of an Eagles 24-20 loss to the Rams in
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  Speaker 2: week four, their second straight loss. Not only did they
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  Speaker 2: lose the game, Greg, but as you are very well aware,
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  Speaker 2: they lost their right tackle before the start of the game.
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  Speaker 2: They lost their wide receiver, you know, leading up for injury.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't have their fourth wide receiver. And then in
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  Speaker 2: the game, they lose Saquon Barkley. And I forgot to
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  Speaker 2: mention they were without their top tight end in Dallas Cotter. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of losing in many ways
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  Speaker 2: going on with the Eagles offense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, at least they were good on third down.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, cheap shot.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry. Sorry. I couldn't help myself.
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  Speaker 2: I get it. I get it. Do you guys know
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  Speaker 2: they were trying to become the first team in NFL
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  Speaker 2: history to win a game by double digits without having
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  Speaker 2: a third down conversion on seven or more attempts?
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  Speaker 1: You know, what's crazy is they were winning 20 to
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  Speaker 1: 10 at the half. And, you know, I'm sure if
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  Speaker 1: you were an Eagles fan, you were probably thinking, you know, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe it doesn't look great, but they're winning
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  Speaker 1: 20 to 10. You know, and that's– that seemed okay,
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  Speaker 1: didn't it, at halftime? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It seemed like the defense was helping. The offense
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  Speaker 2: was trying to do the best it could despite not
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  Speaker 2: being able to move the ball. But, Greg, you know,
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  Speaker 2: as we get into it, I really– you know, watching
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  Speaker 2: it up front, when we don't watch tape, we can
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  Speaker 2: only go on what we see up front. And watching
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  Speaker 2: the way the Rams kind of funneled their pressure schemes
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  Speaker 2: and watching Markel Bell have to make his first start,
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  Speaker 2: my thought like immediately as the game was over was like, man, boy,
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  Speaker 2: did they take advantage of Markel Bell's inexperience. But then
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  Speaker 2: watching– re-watching and having more patience.
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  Speaker 1: He was fine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I just noticed that they overloaded on his side,
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  Speaker 2: but I think- Well, they did.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of times, but, you know, again, and there
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  Speaker 1: was one in particular where he was uncertain, which is
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  Speaker 1: to be expected.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But I think, you know, overall, he wasn't the reason
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  Speaker 1: that this happened.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right.
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  Speaker 1: Look, we've now seen two weeks in a row that
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  Speaker 1: we saw what Dennis Allen did. Now, he didn't necessarily
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  Speaker 1: pressure at the same rate that the Rams did, but
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  Speaker 1: he lined up in all those pressure fronts. we saw
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  Speaker 1: the Rams just go all out essentially with pressure. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they blitzed a lot, half of Hertz, 32 dropbacks. They
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  Speaker 1: rushed five or more. And it's clear that at this
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  Speaker 1: moment in time and anybody watching tape, and I know
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  Speaker 1: you guys talk to people. I didn't need to talk
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  Speaker 1: to anybody. I saw the tape this morning. It was
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  Speaker 1: the first thing I watched when I came in it.
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  Speaker 1: I think I was in the office at 5 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: It was the first thing I watched. So I didn't
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  Speaker 1: need to talk to anybody. But it's evident that right
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  Speaker 1: now the coaching staff, and as we discussed on Friday,
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  Speaker 1: everybody will point to Sean Mannion. And, you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: a major part of it. I don't want people to
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  Speaker 1: think he's not a part of it. But right now
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  Speaker 1: they do not have the tactical answers that are necessary
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  Speaker 1: to deal with this. And anybody, Adam, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: talk to people, you know, offensive line coaches, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you talk to people, they're going to tell you the
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  Speaker 1: same thing. This is not saying anything out of school.
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  Speaker 1: Right now they don't have the answers for how to
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  Speaker 1: deal with this.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think, Greg, it's more just a personal issue
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  Speaker 3: because they have so many injuries, or is it, hey,
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  Speaker 3: they didn't really have injuries in the Chicago game as many,
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  Speaker 3: and they were terrible in the second half. They only
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  Speaker 3: had seven points in general. Is it just because the
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  Speaker 3: fans are asking us, is it just an aberration, or
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  Speaker 3: is it this is who they are? We don't know
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  Speaker 3: who they are.
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  Speaker 1: No, no. I'm not going to sit here and say
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  Speaker 1: after four games this is who they are because, you know,
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  Speaker 1: assuming that there's not any changes like the OC being
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  Speaker 1: relieved of his duties or anything like that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I never asked, I never speak to any of that. I,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you guys don't either. No one advocates for
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  Speaker 1: people to get fired. You know, the guy's only done it,
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  Speaker 1: Sean Mannion for four games. And, you know, when you're
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  Speaker 1: the main guy, you know, it's, it's different than when
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  Speaker 1: you're just part of a group that's putting together a plan.
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  Speaker 1: We know that that's different. Um, uh, and, and he's
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  Speaker 1: feeling his way through, um, you know, it's a fairly
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  Speaker 1: young coaching staff because I did look up the staff.
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  Speaker 1: So you have a lot of younger guys who also
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  Speaker 1: are probably feeling their way through to some extent. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's no knock on them in any job.
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  Speaker 1: No one's great the second they step into the job.
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  Speaker 1: It's just not human nature. You know, there's very few
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  Speaker 1: people in the world like that. So to respond to
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  Speaker 1: Adam's question, you know, I don't think it's personnel per se.
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  Speaker 1: I think that, When you put together a pass game,
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  Speaker 1: and I've had many of these conversations over the years,
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  Speaker 1: as you guys know, and I'll just let the audience
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  Speaker 1: know because I've talked to many, many coaches over the
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  Speaker 1: years and have been fortunate to have people a lot
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  Speaker 1: smarter than I am talk to me about this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: The number one thing in a pass game is protection.
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  Speaker 1: I remember when I first had a great conversation years
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  Speaker 1: and years ago with John Gruden, and that's the first
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  Speaker 1: thing he said. He said, it's protection. If you can't protect,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have a pass game. You know, we can
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  Speaker 1: talk about having great wide outs and all. If you
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  Speaker 1: can't protect, you don't have a pass game. So now
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  Speaker 1: it comes down to how do you tactically protect? And
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  Speaker 1: if that means keeping a guy in or you have
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  Speaker 1: to protect, you know, you can't say, oh, we have
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  Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson and we have Jamar Chase and we have
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  Speaker 1: this guy and we have that guy. That's all great.
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  Speaker 1: But if you can't protect, that doesn't matter. So now
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  Speaker 1: it's tactical. How are you going about putting together your
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  Speaker 1: pass protection plan, knowing that you're going to get pressure
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  Speaker 1: fronts and pressures, blitzes? You know, you've got to have
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  Speaker 1: answers for that.
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  Speaker 2: So that leads me back to the point I was
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  Speaker 2: making at the start, is that while I'm preparing for
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  Speaker 2: the show and cutting up clips and going through the plays,
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  Speaker 2: like you do all the time for many games, Greg,
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  Speaker 2: I noted, wow, no, Markel Bell was not an issue
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  Speaker 2: at Cam Juergens, who continues to try to play left guard,
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  Speaker 2: does not, to me, and I'll let you speak to this,
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  Speaker 2: does not look like a player who's been able to
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  Speaker 2: build upon and stack and get better. In fact, I
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  Speaker 2: think in some cases he may have looked not as
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  Speaker 2: good this game as at a prior game. He just
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  Speaker 2: does not look comfortable at left guard.
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  Speaker 1: I would agree with that. Again, I'm not an offensive
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  Speaker 1: line guru, but I would agree with that. And the
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  Speaker 1: other thing, and I learned this from Merrill Hodge, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and very early on, backs are critical in pass protection.
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  Speaker 1: Merrill used to explain to me, and he played in
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  Speaker 1: the league for as long as he did because that's
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  Speaker 1: who he was, who he had to be, because he
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  Speaker 1: was in a draft back 100 years ago when they
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  Speaker 1: had 11 or 12 rounds. He was like a 10th-round pick,
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  Speaker 1: and in order to stay in the league, he had
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  Speaker 1: to do every single thing correctly. And he stayed in
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  Speaker 1: the league for a long time, would have stayed longer,
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  Speaker 1: and unfortunately had a concussion. But he always told me
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  Speaker 1: that backs have to understand fronts the same way that
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks have to understand fronts. And, you know, I thought
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  Speaker 1: Shipley a couple of times was a little uncertain as to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, what his responsibility was again, without knowing their calls,
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  Speaker 1: but when there's an overload to your side and you're
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  Speaker 1: the back, you can't step away from the overload, you know,
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  Speaker 1: which he did once. I forget the play, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, we'll take a look at it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. So, I mean, backs have to understand, you know,
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  Speaker 1: fronts the same way that quarterbacks do and that's imperative. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, So you got to teach them that. And that's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not knocking any coach. They may
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  Speaker 1: be taught that, you know, the thing is another phrase
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  Speaker 1: I learned from Merrill, which is so true. Coaches have
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  Speaker 1: all the power, but no control. You can teach guys
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  Speaker 1: exactly the right thing to do, but when they get
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  Speaker 1: in the game, you know, then they got to do it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you're not holding their hand and tell it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you're in the booth or on the sideline,
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  Speaker 1: they got to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Right. You know, Adam, Adam, one of the biggest things
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  Speaker 2: we talked about to Greg's point leading into the season
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  Speaker 2: was not having Jeff Stoutland anymore. having Chris Cooper and
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  Speaker 2: it's not, it's a twofold responsibility. One fold is just
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  Speaker 2: getting your starting offensive line to be prepared to play
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  Speaker 2: 17 games and further, right? The other is to be
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  Speaker 2: able to develop talent at positions the way, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody will ever do it the
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  Speaker 2: way Jeff did, but just to a good enough level
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  Speaker 2: so that your young kids can get in there and play.
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  Speaker 2: And now he's had to have both of these things
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  Speaker 2: occur at the same time by having to have Drew
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  Speaker 2: Kendall get in there at center and then having to
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  Speaker 2: have on Sunday a Markel Bell get in there and
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  Speaker 2: right tackle. And you can see, I think Greg would
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  Speaker 2: attest to just from what he see. I mean, they,
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  Speaker 2: they don't look like a team, a line that's playing
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  Speaker 2: in sync with harmony. I'm not blaming Chris Cooper for that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying that's the challenge at hand for him
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  Speaker 2: doing this for the first time with the Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's the challenge. And don't forget, he's a
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  Speaker 1: young coach too. He only retired from in what, like
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  Speaker 1: 2014 or 15. I mean, he's not a grizzled veteran
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  Speaker 1: old line coach who's been doing it for 20 years. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So again, we're not knocking the code, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: I hope people don't take it that way. I don't
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  Speaker 1: do that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Cause I know how hard they work. Cause I know
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  Speaker 1: how hard I work. I mean, and, and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so it's not a knock, you know, and again, that's why,
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  Speaker 1: and it's always easy for people to talk about game
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  Speaker 1: plan or play calls. You guys know, I never talk
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  Speaker 1: about that because I've been fortunate in my career to
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  Speaker 1: sit in on meetings, you know, in, in training camps
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  Speaker 1: and mini camps and, the detail and all that, there's
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  Speaker 1: no way fans know anything about that. So I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to sit there and say, oh, bad play call,
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  Speaker 1: you know, bad game plan. You know, you just don't
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  Speaker 1: know about that stuff. So I'm not going to do that.
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  Speaker 1: All I'm saying is the tape tells you that right
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  Speaker 1: now they don't quite have the answers yet. Now, whether
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  Speaker 1: that changes this week, and we'll talk way more about
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  Speaker 1: this on Friday because Anthony Campanelli is one of the
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  Speaker 1: best young defensive coordinators in the league who does a
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  Speaker 1: lot of stuff. And in fact, because of what's been
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  Speaker 1: going on, I'm going to do a piece in the
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  Speaker 1: matchup show on his pressures. because the Eagles have shown
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  Speaker 1: through the last two games that they're really struggling with that.
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  Speaker 1: And they're going to have to get that cleaned up
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  Speaker 1: or they're going to continue to have problems. Jeff.
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  Speaker 3: And we talk about this in the summer, the lack
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  Speaker 3: of a true third. We weren't sure how bad it
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  Speaker 3: would be. It's, it's a problem.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Being a third down back is not just catching the football. It's, protection.
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  Speaker 3: The thing I've learned from O-line coaches is IDing pass rushers.
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  Speaker 3: Who's coming? Who's dropping? Who am I picking up? Greg
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  Speaker 3: kind of alluded to it with Shipley. This has been
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  Speaker 3: an ongoing struggle for them. They have not had a
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  Speaker 3: true third down back in a while. Since Kenny Gainwell left,
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  Speaker 3: and Kenny Gainwell's terrific at it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Kenny Gainwell is a great football player for what
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  Speaker 1: he is.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and they miss a guy like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean, You know, I think Adam
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  Speaker 2: and I are– we can talk about this even– this
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: is the life in some respect that the Eagles chose.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they went out and decided their offense wasn't
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  Speaker 2: good enough. They needed fresher concepts. They stuck their necks
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  Speaker 2: out by hiring a guy who's never been a play caller,
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  Speaker 2: who's only been a coach for two years, and then
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  Speaker 2: naturally you want that guy to have his staff, and
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  Speaker 2: he brought in other coaches who don't have as much experience.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that that's a bad thing, but
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying is growing teams should be expected.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't truly have like a veteran offensive coach, right?
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  Speaker 2: I guess Jamal Singleton would be considered a veteran offensive coach.
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  Speaker 3: Right, but they didn't bring in– they don't have a
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  Speaker 3: senior offensive assistant. They don't have a senior assistant.
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  Speaker 2: Adam's been talking about that for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to rip the Eagles about that, but
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  Speaker 1: I've always thought that was a good idea. I'll give
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  Speaker 1: you an example of that. This year I'm fortunate enough
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  Speaker 1: to do some radio for Browns Media. So they hired
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  Speaker 1: Mike Rutenberg as their D.C. Young guy, was in Atlanta,
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  Speaker 1: but they brought in Dom Capers. OK, so now you
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  Speaker 1: have a veteran who's been in the league for 100 years,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and he can bounce everything off. You know,
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  Speaker 1: that's just a good way to go, in my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I Adam said was probably, you know, as soon
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  Speaker 2: as it happened, I started hiring coaches, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: there was some talk about Greg Olson didn't happen. But
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  Speaker 2: Adam said, yeah. You really need this kind of guy
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  Speaker 2: if you're going to have that kind of a young
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  Speaker 2: play caller and staff. And I completely agree with it.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not even afraid to criticize a little bit
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  Speaker 2: because when you're the team and you represent yourself in public,
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  Speaker 2: you say our expectation is to win. We're not in
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: a transition. We're not rebuilding. We haven't to win. Well,
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  Speaker 2: then you have to put just like coaches have to
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  Speaker 2: put players in position to win. The whole team has
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  Speaker 2: to put everybody in position to win. And without that
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  Speaker 2: senior voice, I do think it's hurting them at a
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  Speaker 2: time like this. You're going through growing pains. That's natural,
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  Speaker 2: but it sure would help to have a grandfatherly type
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  Speaker 2: who's been through the worst to be able to pull
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  Speaker 2: you aside.
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  Speaker 1: I believe that, you know, and again, obviously young coaches
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  Speaker 1: have to learn. We all understand that because everybody starts
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: as a young coach. I mean, I remember reading the
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: Nick Saban book and his first year out of college,
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: he stayed at Kent State and the two graduate assistants
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: that year were Nick Saban and Dom Capers at Kent
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  Speaker 1: State back a hundred years ago. So young coaches have
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  Speaker 1: to learn and we all understand that. But it'd be
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: nice to be able to learn. I mean, I remember
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: when I had the opportunity to really get to know
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  Speaker 1: Bill Walsh. And for some ridiculous reason, he decided I
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  Speaker 1: was a nice guy and wanted to talk to me, which,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you didn't have to do. Believe me. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you just sit there and you listen. And
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  Speaker 1: that's how you learn this stuff from someone who really knows.
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  Speaker 1: And as Adam knows, you know, being around the Ron
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  Speaker 1: Jaworskis and all the people that came in all those
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  Speaker 1: years to watch tape. Dick Vermeule would come in. There's
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  Speaker 1: 50 guys that came in and I can't remember them all.
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  Speaker 1: You learn something every time someone comes in.
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  Speaker 3: Jeff, real quick. So the late Rod Rust, who was once.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. He was here every Monday for like five years.
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  Speaker 1: An absolute legend.
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  Speaker 3: Our friend Paul Gunther, who's now at UNLV, former Raiders, D.C., Bengals, D.C.
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  Speaker 2: Matt Millen.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you just go for front office people, Charlie Casserly.
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  Speaker 3: So it just.
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  Speaker 1: Marty Mornig was here for a number of times. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: They all have to start somewhere, right? Like every offensive
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  Speaker 3: coordinator was a rookie. Like they started the first year
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  Speaker 3: that they did it. They were a rookie at it.
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  Speaker 3: And no one's perfect. And the good thing, it's a
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  Speaker 3: long season. But as I told you in the show
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  Speaker 3: on Friday, you can't keep making excuses. The players they
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: have on the 53-man roster, they believe they can help them.
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  Speaker 3: Guys are active on game day. Greg made the point
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  Speaker 3: of it's not just on the OC, it's also on
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  Speaker 3: the assistant coaches. That's great. But as a group, as
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  Speaker 3: a unit of coaches, they've got to get the personnel
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  Speaker 3: the right way. You can't just blame, oh, we don't
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: have Lane Johnson, we don't have Saquon Barkley. Every team
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  Speaker 3: goes through injuries. It's what do you do with the
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  Speaker 3: personnel that is up on game day? And they have
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: to do a better job of it.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: The problem with football is there's only 17 games. It's
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: not like, let's say, baseball. Oh, you lose a couple
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: of series early in the season while you're figuring out
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: your team. There's only 17 games.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: Right. Greg, I'll ask you two questions before we look
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: at film. One, this is more your opinion based on tape,
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: just for four weeks now. Does it seem to you
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: that the Eagles are a little bit, when we're under center,
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: we run, when we're in the shotgun, we pass, like
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: not enough of a blend to help give the defense
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: a little guesswork?
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: So I'd have to answer that anecdotally, Jeff, because I
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: haven't charted that. I would say that's probably fair. But, yeah, yeah.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: There are tells. I mean, believe me, I had a
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: good friend of mine who's a scout just send me
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: something because he knows he actually sent me something this weekend.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: And he said, I know you're one of the few
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: people that would love this. He sent me a tell.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: He was an advanced scout for a team. I don't
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: want to say which, but he sent me a tell
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: of a team that they were playing this weekend. And
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: he did all the work because he's in advance. And
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: he said, I know you would love this.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Ah, it's so cool, man.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: There's always tells like that, you know? Right.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: Very cool.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, second question real quick.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: For the most part of the game, I thought, man,
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: this is really a tough environment and condition to play well.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: You know, you lose your right tackle, who's a Hall
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: of Famer for the game. You're already having trouble with protection.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: You're down Devontae Smith. down Dallas Goddard. So I can't
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: look at this game and be like, Oh, he lost
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: it for, he played terribly. But I, I did realize
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: going through some, some clips and I'll ask you, I
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: feel like there were a couple, there were probably some
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: significant times where he could have made a play and
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: did not. Is that, does that seem fair?
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Um, I thought there was one time that was blatantly
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: obvious and that was actually on the first series. Uh, and,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: and that was when he missed, um, uh, Wide open
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: wicks on the first third down, third and six. It
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: was a trip for you.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Over the middle.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Is that the over the middle play?
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you're showing that play, Jeff. So
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: were you going to show that?
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Guess what? Let's go to the videotape.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, because I don't want to talk about it without
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: people seeing. There you go, Warner Wolf. Go ahead.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: I believe it's the first third down, if I'm not mistaken.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: It was the first third down of the game. It
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: was third and six.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: I love the formation when it started off, but go ahead.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Go ahead and explain to everybody.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Basically what they did is it's, it's trips into the
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: field and they went with what we call short burst
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: motion and it's a trips read. Okay. And they're going
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: to get zone coverage. There's a high, low element to
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: this play. So basically you're reading off the, the defender
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: that's just outside the hash to the top of the screen.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: He's the read for you. You know, the only way
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: that this would dramatically change, but you know, it's not
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: going to, is if somehow the safety did something that
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: safeties don't normally do. But other than that, you're reading the,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: that defender. So if you want to just run this
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Jeff a little bit, and then we can freeze it again,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: you know, keep going. So stop it right here. Actually,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: it was the wrong guy. It's the guy that dropped out.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It's the guy that dropped out. So right
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: now you can see it has a high, low element
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: to it. So as soon as that underneath defender, it's
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: now the guy who's on the 35 yard line, who's
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: just outside the hash. I had pointed out the wrong
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: guy initially. Um, So as soon as you start to
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: see him expand laterally, you got to stick this throw.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a timing throw. And in fact,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: that's Josiah Stewart who dropped out. So just go back
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: to the beginning so I can really make it clear
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: to the audience. So if Stewart is on the ball,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: he becomes your read as soon as you take the
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: snap and you see him drop. So now you can
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: run it just so people see he's number 10. So
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: now as you see, because you can also see that
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: safety clearly retreating. So he's irrelevant. So now you're working
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: off Stewart, number 10. It's just a high-low, and he's
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: the read. And this wall should be out by now.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: It should be out now.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: By the way, this is a throw we've credited him
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: for starting to make in the first two weeks of
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: the season. He made a few of these layered throws
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: that were right there.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: But just to be fair, I would say this was
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: the only one I thought that he blatantly missed. And
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I think they showed this, you know, because I watch
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Red Zone, but I think I saw this play, and
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I think Brady mentioned that. I think Tom Brady mentioned that,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: you know, that he had to make that throw.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: And Wicks, you'll see Wicks after the play. I think
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: he kind of raised his hand.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: So that was, you got to make that throw. And
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: that should have been pitch and catch. Fair. Very fair.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: And then now we get to a point where it's
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: not about Jalen, but the protection that we talked about.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: This is the second and 14 where he's going to,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I guess what we want to talk about here is
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: the way that Eagles dealt with stunts.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so this was now which play?
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Second and 14, where they run a TT stun on Juergens.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, so this was the TT stun, okay, in the
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: second quarter, where Juergens did something you simply cannot do.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: And this is more mental than physical. I mean, you
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: just can't do this. And you'll see it momentarily. So
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: do you have this from the end zone by chance?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I will. Yeah. Yeah.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: We'll take a look at it.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: What happens is they run a TT stunt. And by
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: the way, we talked about the fact that the Rams
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: are one of the highest percentage stunt teams in the NFL.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: So that's something that should have been known. And it was,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I guarantee that was coached. Okay. But you can even
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: see here and we'll.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Get to it for a reason.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Juergens is, you know, you can't run after the
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: guy and turn your back. I mean, that is just,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: you can't do that, you know, and he turns his
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: back and then you're done. And, you know, then, then
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Hertz is forced to throw it, you know, way early and,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: you know, it's an incomplete pass, but you can really
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: see it from here. It's a TT stunt, meaning tackle, tackle.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: So it's Turner. Who's the picker or the penetrator and
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: it's Fisk. Who's the looper. Yeah.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, a center should know this too.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: And by the way, Juergen should know what the, protection is.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: And as soon as Turner goes hard inside like that,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: you let him be, you know, that someone's coming, you know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: he's not going hard inside for his health. You know,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: that someone's coming and, and you know, you can't turn
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: your back to the, like that you're done. Yeah. That
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: was over. Yeah.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: No chance.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Like you said, a guy who played center should have
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: known that.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Right. That was a bad mental mistake again. And, and,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I guarantee you guys that that was coached about the stunts.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: So that was just poor execution by Juergens. That wasn't
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: a surprise that they stunned him.
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  Speaker 2: So that would set up the very next play, which
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: is third and 14. So this is the overload.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: They use Kitchens and Lake quite a bit as pressure guys.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: This one is an overload into the boundary. Now they
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: attack the right side at times, and I'm sure they
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: did that because of Markel Bell. But see, here's a
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: perfect example where Shipley takes a step outside. He has
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: to be aware. It's the weak side of the defense.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: It's not the passing strength. So there's no tight end there.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: There's nobody there but Shipley. So he has to be aware,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: you know, that pressure could come. His first move should
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: be to either stay there or even take a step forward.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: And then if no one comes, then you can release.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: But he takes a step outside. And then this was
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: also an example where Bell just was a little uncertain
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: who to block.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I wonder if he could feel the presence of– because
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: he's supposed to block the outside guy, whoever the.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Most outside guy is, right? Yeah, his responsibility is Byron Young.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: But then all of a sudden inside of him he
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: sees– is that Lake or Kitchens? It's Lake. No, it's Kitchens.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: He sees Kitchens and he thinks, oh, that guy's closer
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: to the quarterback. Maybe I should step in there.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: So he just gets caught for a second. But this
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: is where the back has to understand what a pressure
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: look could look like. and what could come from it.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he retreats quickly. I'm surprised he was
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: able to get there. But the damage is done here
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: because Hertz already feels it coming right down.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Well, the other thing, too, is even if he blocks,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: assuming that Steen did the right thing, and I'm assuming
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: he did, you're still going to have an overload. Hertz
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: also has to be aware of this, that there will
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: be an unblocked player here because it's three versus two.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, because that's a slide protection on the left side.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: It appears to be.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't tell now, but just the way
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: you see Lemon kind of running open there, if you're
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: able to protect him a little bit, who knows if
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: you're able to get that.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, yeah, just, you know, another example, you know. Yep.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Another stunt here. This one, Hertz, I don't know how
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: he avoided the set. I got to give Hertz credit
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: for not turning the ball over.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Which play is this?
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: You're going to see him get ransacked by three guys
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: and then roll to a right and throw it out
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: of bounds. But it's another stunt of the middle. Third
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: and ten. In the final two minutes?
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, so they rushed all five first-level defenders. This
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: was the long stunt with Young the looper. Both Turner
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: as the inside penetrator and Young got quick pressure, forcing
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Hurts out of the pocket. This was a long stunt.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: By long stunt, we mean that the looper goes behind
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: two players, not just one.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, like a two-gap stunt, right?
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the other play.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: So you want to, I guess, go to the next one. Yes,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: my fault.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I had rewinded it too much a little bit.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Here's where it is. Yeah.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: So you can see that Young's coming from the left
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: side of the defense, right side of the offense. He's
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: going to work behind two players. But the thing is, Turner,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: who's one of the pickers or penetrators– He gets in too.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: So they don't handle the stunt well at all. No.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: You know, another example, again, they had to be prepared
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: for this.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Right. So there's the double team. There's here's the loop.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: The loop is actually almost becomes irrelevant because, because they let,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: I guess that's.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Let's turn her in.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Let's turn her in. And by then the looper
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: just winds up being the cleanup guy, except they couldn't
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: clean it up and hurt, but it doesn't matter. The
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: damage is done.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: So this was pretty repetitive, just stunts and. and just
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: inside protection. They blitzed a ton too. I mean, you know,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: as you saw, cause I, you know, I kept seeing
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: all these blitzes. So I finally looked up the numbers
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: and you know, all, all eight of the Hertz dropbacks
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: on third down, they rushed five or more.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: That's a big blitz rate right there.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: You know, so I mean, they, you know, this is
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: what happens in the NFL. If you have an issue
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: that a team believes you have, They're going to do
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: stuff until you correct it. I mean, this is the NFL,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: you know? I mean, that's the way it works. Yeah.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: So a lot of teams are doing this, by the way,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: against the Eagles for the first four weeks because I
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: believe that stunting and that looping, the way they rush
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: the passer, it also gives them a guy coming, like,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: kind of downhill in case Hurts tries to take off
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: up the middle, which he usually does, and he beats
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: a lot of blitzes that way. That middle has been clogged.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: There's always been bodies there. That's made it tough for
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: them to run.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean, this is– Think about it. They've
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: got to work really hard on this kind of stuff.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: They have three line changes. Right tackle, the one guard spot,
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: and center. And they took advantage of it.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: They knew it.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: They're advanced guys. This is their job to break down
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Eagles tape. They knew it. Now, of course, they didn't
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: know about Lane Johnson, but Chris Shula finds out when
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: we all found out, and they took advantage of it.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: They did a good job.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the third and fourth and
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: goal scenarios, Greg. At the end of the game, Nick
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Sirianni tries to win it here by going up, I guess, 17.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: This is the first. This is third and goal at
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: the two, where I believe– I hate to pick on Juergens,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: but I think he really– runs into Hertz at the
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: snap and causes, I thought it was supposed to be
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: a handoff, but Hertz was bobbling it.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: That's what I thought it was, too, supposed to be
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: a handoff.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to see from this angle. We'll take
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: a look at it from the other angle, but it
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: looked like he should have, that's just confusion.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: They're pulling people, so I thought it was supposed to
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: be a handoff.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And no one's running routes, so Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So here we go in there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, it looks like it's right there. Right hand
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  Speaker 1: hits the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, or his midsection, something, the ball gets jammed
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  Speaker 2: into him. He's supposed to be the puller.
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  Speaker 1: Basically, it's basically a power scheme. They've got they've got
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: the kick out block and the puller who's the rapper.
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  Speaker 1: And I think they're running the ball here. Yeah, for sure. Yep.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Absolutely what happened.
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  Speaker 1: And theoretically he might've scored because, you know, there, there,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: there seemed like there was enough of a seam for
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: it to, you know, get through. And then this was
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: the fourth down play, right? Yeah.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: What was the concept and idea?
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: You got to throw this ball. I mean, you know,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: it's not an easy throw, but you know what, you're
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: in the, you're in the red zone. It's not a
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: lot of easy throws. They go three step drop. So
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: when you go three step drop timing, you're not reading
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the full field and it's a three by one set.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: And you got Wicks as the boundary X down below,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: and he's going to run essentially a speed out on
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: McDuffie and a perfect throw here. And it's a touchdown,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: but Jalen comes off of it. I mean, you know,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: you know, this is not an easy throw. You got
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  Speaker 1: to keep going all further. Stop. You got to put
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: it outside of him. Technically he won because McDuffie's inside
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: of him. So if you put it, You know, people
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: can see my hands. If you put it outside of them,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: you know, right there, it's a touchdown. You've got to
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: throw this ball. That's the play call.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, timing and anticipation right here. And, I mean, it
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: may not be complete, but at least you give him
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: the only shot to get it there.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Because now you're done because it's three-step drop timing. So
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: now that's why Hertz breaks down because there's no real
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: other option now other than try to make a play.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he would have had it done very quickly.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I've debated that play because I can't guarantee it would
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: have been a completion, Greg, but you're right. He gives
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: it the best shot to get him there. McGuffey had
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: nice coverage, but he gives him the best shot if
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  Speaker 1: The well that yeah but like i said that's the
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: play call you know right and you know you Yeah.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Because it's not like there were three options. That's a
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: play call.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Greg, overall, obviously they've depleted the pass target group. Had
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: a lot of questions about Darius Cooper, who he catches
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: a lot that's thrown to him. What are your thoughts
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: on him so far?
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I have no problem with Cooper. I
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: just think their pass game as a whole is a
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: little dysfunctional right now. So no one, you know, it's
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: easy to, let's say, rip Mekhi Lemon because he's not
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: putting up the numbers that people might expect being a
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: first-round pick and someone they traded up for. But right now,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: their pass game is a little dysfunctional. Hurts only completed
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: 12 balls. Even the week before, it was not very good.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: You know, it's not a pass game where you can
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: really get a great feel for the receiving core. Got it.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Very true.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Very true. All right.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Well, like you just said, it doesn't get much easier
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: in London against Jacksonville and Anthony Campanile. And what a
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: great job he's done with that Jags defense. So we'll
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: just have to see throughout the week. Do the Eagles
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: get healthier? Do they have more artillery to bring with them?
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: when they fly across the pond. That's going to do
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: it for this episode of Inside the Tape. On the
• 34:08
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• 34:10
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• 34:13
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