Latest / Deep Thoughts / You’re paying an isolation tax… without knowing!
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- 0:02Speaker 1: We all want to understand the world around us, you know,
- 0:05Speaker 1: get a handle on things that really matter, and do
- 0:07Speaker 1: it all as efficiently as possible. So today we're going
- 0:11Speaker 1: to be diving into something that's pretty common these days,
- 0:14Speaker 1: but maybe not something we talk about enough. Feeling lonely.
- 0:18Speaker 1: And I mean it's weird because you think with everyone
- 0:20Speaker 1: online and connected all the time, we wouldn't feel so isolated,
- 0:25Speaker 1: but that's kind of where we are. It's like this
- 0:27Speaker 1: hidden tax on our lives.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think what's interesting is how much is
- 0:30Speaker 2: actually written about this. Like the stuff we've been looking
- 0:33Speaker 2: at goes way beyond just feeling a bit down, you know.
- 0:36Speaker 2: It's got these tendrils reaching out into all these parts
- 0:39Speaker 2: of our lives and affecting us in ways we don't
- 0:41Speaker 2: even think about exactly.
- 0:43Speaker 1: That's what we're going to try to unpack today, like
- 0:44Speaker 1: what's the real cost of all this loneliness and what
- 0:47Speaker 1: can we actually do about it? I mean, first off,
- 0:50Speaker 1: it's just kind of crazy, right, We've got all these
- 0:52Speaker 1: ways to connect with people instantly, Like we're talking billions
- 0:55Speaker 1: of people on social media, but we're actually seeing less
- 0:58Speaker 1: of each other face to face. Of the stuff that
- 1:01Speaker 1: used to build our relationships. I feel like these virtual
- 1:04Speaker 1: spaces they do connect us in a way, but they
- 1:07Speaker 1: don't have the same depth, the same nuance.
- 1:10Speaker 2: I think that's the word. It's like you can trade
- 1:13Speaker 2: information online, sure, but you're not getting that same kind
- 1:16Speaker 2: of emotional support that you do when you're actually with people.
- 1:19Speaker 2: And it's that missing piece that starts to impact our health.
- 1:22Speaker 2: I mean, it's not just a statistical thing, this link
- 1:25Speaker 2: between loneliness and heart problems. It's like your body actually
- 1:28Speaker 2: reacts to being isolated. Some studies show that being lonely
- 1:31Speaker 2: long term sets off this inflammatory response in your body,
- 1:35Speaker 2: almost like what happens when you smoke cigarettes.
- 1:37Speaker 1: And that's what's so wild, right, Like, loneliness isn't just
- 1:40Speaker 1: this feeling in your head. It's legitimately linked to some
- 1:44Speaker 1: scary health risks heart disease, stroke, even dementia. There are studies,
- 1:50Speaker 1: these long term studies that show the chronic loneliness. It's
- 1:53Speaker 1: basically like smoking fifteen cigarettes a day in terms of
- 1:56Speaker 1: the risk it poses. It's pretty serious stuff, and it
- 1:58Speaker 1: makes you think about the wider ima too. I mean,
- 2:00Speaker 1: if it's hitting us that hard individually, it's got to
- 2:04Speaker 1: be affecting our wallets as well.
- 2:05Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, it's like this whole other economic burden we
- 2:08Speaker 2: have to deal with. For one thing, lonely people tend
- 2:12Speaker 2: to spend their money differently. They're more likely to rely
- 2:16Speaker 2: on those delivery services instead of going out to local businesses, which.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Makes sense, right, You're not going out, you're not interacting.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Plus some economists who look at this stuff say that
- 2:24Speaker 2: lonely people are more likely to buy things to try
- 2:27Speaker 2: and fill that emotional void. And then you've got this
- 2:30Speaker 2: whole subscription economy that's great for convenience but also keeps
- 2:34Speaker 2: us in these little bubbles, you know, fewer chances to
- 2:37Speaker 2: just bump into people and have those random conversations that
- 2:40Speaker 2: can spark something new.
- 2:42Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's interesting how this all plays out in
- 2:44Speaker 1: the workplace too, and people feel connected at work and
- 2:47Speaker 1: they tend to be more motivated, more creative. It boosts
- 2:50Speaker 1: productivity for everyone.
- 2:51Speaker 2: For sure, and loneliness it does the opposite, makes people
- 2:54Speaker 2: withdraw leads to burnout, so productivity takes a hit, which
- 2:59Speaker 2: is bad news for everyone, not just the individual, but
- 3:01Speaker 2: the whole company, the whole economy.
- 3:03Speaker 1: And on top of all that, you have the health
- 3:05Speaker 1: care costs that go up because of all those loneliness
- 3:08Speaker 1: related illnesses we talked about, So people are stretched thin financially,
- 3:13Speaker 1: and the whole healthcare system feels the pressure. And it's
- 3:16Speaker 1: not just our wallets and our bodies. There's a societal
- 3:19Speaker 1: impact too. When people are isolated, they're more likely to
- 3:23Speaker 1: get caught up in these extreme ideologies or narratives that
- 3:27Speaker 1: prey on fear and division.
- 3:29Speaker 2: These groups kind of exploit that basic need to belong
- 3:32Speaker 2: that so many people are missing in their lives.
- 3:34Speaker 1: And there's a long history of this too, right like
- 3:37Speaker 1: when you look back those times when people felt really
- 3:39Speaker 1: disconnected socially and often went hand in hand with some
- 3:42Speaker 1: pretty serious political instability.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Yeah, and some of the stuff we read, like Hannah
- 3:46Speaker 2: aren't she's a political philosopher. She argued that this deep loneliness,
- 3:50Speaker 2: this feeling of being totally isolated, it made people way
- 3:54Speaker 2: more vulnerable to these mass movements. When you don't feel
- 3:57Speaker 2: grounded in a community, it's easy to latch onto these
- 4:00Speaker 2: strong voices, to find your identity in them.
- 4:03Speaker 1: And it makes you think about how isolation impacts our
- 4:06Speaker 1: personal growth too. If you're not having those regular, meaningful
- 4:09Speaker 1: interactions with other people. It's got to be hard to
- 4:12Speaker 1: really grow as a person, like so many of those
- 4:15Speaker 1: aha moments that come from talking things through with someone,
- 4:18Speaker 1: sharing experiences.
- 4:19Speaker 2: Exactly, if you're isolated, you're missing out on those chances
- 4:23Speaker 2: to learn and grow. And I think it can also
- 4:25Speaker 2: stifle creativity and make it harder to develop a growth mindset.
- 4:29Speaker 2: You get stuck in your own way of thinking because
- 4:31Speaker 2: you're not exposed to other perspectives, Like imagine you have
- 4:34Speaker 2: this friend who's really good at giving you honest feedback
- 4:36Speaker 2: helps you see those blind spots you might have.
- 4:38Speaker 1: It's so important.
- 4:40Speaker 2: Without that, without those human mirrors, it's tough to grow.
- 4:44Speaker 2: And you also miss out on the benefits of collaborating
- 4:47Speaker 2: with others, being held accountable for your goals, even just
- 4:50Speaker 2: learning how to navigate those tricky social situations that we
- 4:54Speaker 2: all encounter.
- 4:55Speaker 1: And isn't it interesting how much of this isolation comes
- 4:58Speaker 1: from our own desire to a avoid discomfort. Like, let's
- 5:02Speaker 1: face it, interacting with other people takes effort. You got
- 5:05Speaker 1: to be patient, you got to compromise, and you've got
- 5:07Speaker 1: to be willing to be a little vulnerable.
- 5:09Speaker 2: It's true, and it feels like today everything is about
- 5:11Speaker 2: instant gratification. We're conditioned to avoid discomfort whenever possible.
- 5:16Speaker 1: And we're seeing that play out in so many ways,
- 5:19Speaker 1: ghosting people instead of having those tough conversations. You're reading
- 5:22Speaker 1: these perfect online personas to avoid any kind of criticism,
- 5:26Speaker 1: choosing to do things alone rather than risk those awkward
- 5:30Speaker 1: social encounters. It's like we're constantly trying to escape any
- 5:33Speaker 1: situation that might make us feel a little uncomfortable.
- 5:36Speaker 2: And that's how you end up paying this isolation tax.
- 5:38Speaker 2: You slowly lose those social skills, those abilities that let
- 5:41Speaker 2: you navigate real world relationships.
- 5:44Speaker 1: So how do we stop paying this tax?
- 5:46Speaker 2: Well, it starts with a real shift in our thinking.
- 5:49Speaker 2: We need to develop what you could call a social
- 5:51Speaker 2: investment mindset. It's about making those human connections a real
- 5:56Speaker 2: priority in your life.
- 5:58Speaker 1: And what does that look like in practice?
- 6:00Speaker 2: A few things. Really, it's about valuing those micro interactions.
- 6:04Speaker 2: That quick chat with the barista, asking your colleague how
- 6:07Speaker 2: their day is going, even just a quick phone call
- 6:09Speaker 2: to a friend. Those little moments add up.
- 6:12Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. It's not about these grand gestures,
- 6:15Speaker 1: it's about making those small efforts consistently.
- 6:18Speaker 2: Exactly Another thing is to actively choose experiences that you
- 6:22Speaker 2: share with others instead of always defaulting to those solo activities.
- 6:26Speaker 2: Invite some friends over, get involved in something in your community.
- 6:30Speaker 1: And what about all the digital stuff? Any tips for.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Navigating that Digital minimalism is a big one. Put the
- 6:36Speaker 2: phone down, step away from the screens, and you'll naturally
- 6:39Speaker 2: have more time to actually connect with people. Even scheduling
- 6:42Speaker 2: some breaks from social media can help you reconnect with
- 6:45Speaker 2: the world around you.
- 6:46Speaker 1: And I think the last piece is learning to be
- 6:48Speaker 1: okay with a little discomfort. Like growing as a person socially,
- 6:53Speaker 1: it means putting yourself out there and that's going to
- 6:54Speaker 1: involve some awkward moments. But if you can reframe those
- 6:57Speaker 1: moments see them as part of building deeper connections, it
- 7:00Speaker 1: can make a world a difference.
- 7:01Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 7:02Speaker 1: So the bottom line is this isolation tax. It's not
- 7:04Speaker 1: just some abstract idea. It has real consequences for our
- 7:07Speaker 1: well being, for our economy, for our society, and for
- 7:10Speaker 1: us as individuals. But the good news is we have
- 7:13Speaker 1: the power to change things. We can choose to prioritize
- 7:17Speaker 1: those genuine human connections.
- 7:19Speaker 2: Yeah, building real relationships and communities. It's not just a
- 7:23Speaker 2: nice to have. It's fundamental to a healthy and fulfilling life.
- 7:26Speaker 2: And the way things are going now with loneliness on
- 7:28Speaker 2: the rise, it's just not sustainable connecting with others. It's
- 7:31Speaker 2: like this vital resource and when we invest in it,
- 7:34Speaker 2: the payoff is huge.
- 7:36Speaker 1: So, after all this, after learning about this isolation tax,
- 7:39Speaker 1: I want you to think about this, what choices are
- 7:41Speaker 1: you going to make to invest in those real, meaningful connections.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Think about how much you value those connections and the
- 7:48Speaker 1: incredible things they bring to your life.
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