Latest / The Courtroom Files / May 20, 2026 Court Hearings: Judge Aquilina Sentences Dealer, Mercer Revokes Bond, Parole Board Hears Violations + More | TCF Podcast #295
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- 0:00Good morning everybody. Happy Wednesday.
- 0:04Welcome to TCF LIVE. My name is Dan Soul.
- 0:05I'll be your guide on this three hour journey through
- 0:07Courtlandia. We're starting in Royal Oak, MI.
- 0:10This is Magistrate Urich Oak Police Department.
- 0:13You are in the right place. Please listen carefully.
- 0:16The court is going to explain the procedure for these hearings
- 0:19to you as a group and then we will undertake their cases one
- 0:23at a time. So to begin with, these are
- 0:26civil cases of a non criminal nature.
- 0:28Nobody's going to jail today on their traffic ticket.
- 0:31It is however, considered serious enough that the officer
- 0:34issued you the citation on the date in question.
- 0:37You will be required to make a selection from one of three
- 0:40options and three options only in the protection of your
- 0:44rights. You may, if you wish, simply
- 0:46admit responsibility to the citation.
- 0:48The portal attach a fine between zero and the maximum and that'll
- 0:53close the case. Your second option is to admit
- 0:56responsibility, but with an explanation that you believe
- 0:59mitigates your circumstances. And your third option is to deny
- 1:04responsibility. If you do so, the court will
- 1:07swear the parties underoath and conduct your trial forthwith.
- 1:10The officer testifies first. It's their burden of proof that
- 1:13it is your turn to testify, tell the court what you wish the
- 1:16court to know, and then the court makes the finding of
- 1:18responsible or not responsible. Please remember, since we're in
- 1:21civil court, that burden of proof is a mere preponderance of
- 1:24the evidence. It is not the heavy burden of
- 1:26proof of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt which is
- 1:28reserved for Criminal Court. Lastly, this court, this umpire,
- 1:33the magistrate here, does not have the legal authority to add
- 1:37or subtract points. That is between yourself and the
- 1:41Secretary of State. However, anything you do say can
- 1:46be taken into consideration by the officer.
- 1:49But the courts not here to haggle with you.
- 1:51The courts here to accept a plea and then we move on from there.
- 1:55So with that said, I'm going to excuse you back to the waiting
- 1:57room. Please have any documents you
- 2:00need or your testimony ready. Should you choose?
- 2:03To go that route and the court will be with you shortly.
- 2:07Well, Magistrate Urich immediately gives us some dead
- 2:10air time once again, let me say good morning to everybody.
- 2:13TCF live on this wonderful Wednesday, which for this week
- 2:17is kind of the new Thursday because tomorrow will be the new
- 2:20Friday slow start in Cortlandia, which is why we're starting here
- 2:25with the magistrate. So we'll give him a second to
- 2:28see if he wants to actually participate.
- 2:32Otherwise, I will find us something else though.
- 2:34Again, not many choices yet, but more than fair.
- 2:38There we go calling case number 26, RO 01258 people versus
- 2:43Melissa. Dana Lewis, that's you.
- 2:44Yes. Yes.
- 2:47Good morning again, Miss Lewis. You were present just a moment
- 2:49ago before to explain the nature of an informal hearing.
- 2:51True. Yes.
- 2:52Yes. So you understood the court to
- 2:54instruct us you must select from one of three options to protect
- 2:57your rights, Yes? I do.
- 2:59Thank you, Miss Lewis. A citation before the court was
- 3:02issued March 5 this year at about 6 past eight in the
- 3:06evening. You were up in 2019 Mercedes
- 3:08black in color on Washington Ave. at or near Lincoln.
- 3:13And at that time, you were cited for disobeying a traffic control
- 3:16device. Officer Cole's remark on your
- 3:19ticket indicates driving northbound Washington
- 3:22approaching Lincoln failed to yield to solid yellow and
- 3:26proceeded through red light. And apparently there's a dash
- 3:29Cam capture of this. The Motor Vehicle Code indicates
- 3:34that motorists must stop on a yellow light if that is a safe
- 3:41stop under all circumstances. But notwithstanding that, Miss
- 3:45Lewis, you do have your three options today.
- 3:47You may admit responsibility, you may admit and explain, or
- 3:51you can deny responsibility. The court will swear the parties
- 3:54and take the testimony. What do you want?
- 3:55The court. To do for you.
- 3:57Your Honor, I'd like to admit and with an explanation.
- 4:01Very well. So you're confirming to the
- 4:02court that on the date in question you were operating
- 4:04motivate on the City of Royal Oak and at that place and time
- 4:08you disobeyed a traffic control device, correct?
- 4:12Correct, your Honor. Thank you, Miss Lewis.
- 4:14What do you want the court to know?
- 4:16That night it was, it had rained all day that day and it was like
- 4:20torrential pouring. I was going 5 miles under the
- 4:23speed limit as well 'cause I've gotten in at my first accident
- 4:26when I was a child, I it was raining.
- 4:28So I drive really slow for during the rain and the light
- 4:33was turning yellow and I was like coming up to the spot, I
- 4:39guess. And I didn't think I did start
- 4:41breaking, which you can. And I did see the cop in front
- 4:43of me and I started breaking and you could probably see that on
- 4:46the video as well. But I felt like I was going to
- 4:49slide through traffic if I if I did that.
- 4:52So I originally started to break, kept going, went through
- 4:56before they even turned their lights on and pulled around to
- 5:00pull me over. I pulled over because I knew I
- 5:02was going to get in trouble, but I just didn't want to fly like
- 5:05slam through the intersection while it was raining just in
- 5:09case. I thought it would be the safest
- 5:10for me to go through it and if I were going the speed limit, if I
- 5:14was going faster I think I would have gone through the light.
- 5:17I just didn't think it was safe for me while it was raining and
- 5:20the video should show that as well.
- 5:23Judgement Cole. Thank you, Miss Lewis.
- 5:25The Court appreciates all your remarks and turning to Officer
- 5:29Cole. A motion to amend to impeding
- 5:33Your Honor. OK, impeding traffic.
- 5:35Thank you, officer. Miss Lewis is a 0 point
- 5:39violation will not permanently appear on a master driving
- 5:42record that's acceptable to you. Yes, Your Honor.
- 5:44Thank you. Very well.
- 5:46So your original plea will subsume A plea to impeding
- 5:48traffic. The fine Miss Lewis is 100,
- 5:51pardon me $75.00 That was payable through the pay portal
- 5:54on the 44th different court website.
- 5:56Or you may walk a cash check or charge into this court at 400 E
- 6:0011 Mile Rd. Monday through Friday between
- 6:028:30 and 4:30. That's due within 14 days.
- 6:06I complete your hearing. Good luck to you.
- 6:07Thank you. Have a good day.
- 6:09Take care. Bye.
- 6:10Bye. Only case number 26, RO 01717.
- 6:16This is People versus Jack Thomas Bruner.
- 6:18That's you, Sir. Yes, Sir.
- 6:21Mr. Bruner, you were present earlier today when the court
- 6:23explained the nature of an informal here.
- 6:25True. Yes.
- 6:27You're honing. So you understood the court to
- 6:28instruct that you must select from one of three options to
- 6:31protect your rights. Yes.
- 6:32Yes, you're honing. Thank you, Mr. Bruner.
- 6:34The citation before the court was issued on March 28th this
- 6:37year. At 3:45 in the morning.
- 6:40We're operating a 2021 Volkswagen Black in color on 10
- 6:44Mile Rd. Internet Woodward Ave. in the
- 6:46city of Royal, and at that place and time you're cited for
- 6:50improper lane usage with an accident obstacles.
- 6:54The remark appearing on your ticket indicates Unit 1, which
- 6:57would be the Jetta turning from westbound 10 Mile Rd. onto
- 7:03southbound Woodward attempted to change lanes from middle lane to
- 7:06outer lane. Besides swiping Unit 2.
- 7:11That is the citation before the court.
- 7:13You do have three options. You may admit responsibility,
- 7:16Mr. Bernard. You can admit and explain or you
- 7:20may deny responsibility and the court for the parties and take
- 7:23your testimony. What do you wish the court to do
- 7:25for you? I would like to admit and
- 7:27explain, Your Honor. Very well.
- 7:29So you're confirming to the court that on the date in
- 7:31question you are operating motor vehicle in the city of Royal and
- 7:35at that place and time you used your lane improperly and make
- 7:40contact with a second vehicle, correct?
- 7:42Yes. You're having.
- 7:43Thank you. Court accepts your plea.
- 7:45What would you like the court to know?
- 7:47I prepared a statement, Your Honor, if that's OK, if I read
- 7:49that OK. Sure.
- 7:50So, Your Honor, I I want to plead guilty and take
- 7:54responsibility for the accident and the lane change violation
- 7:57that resulted in an accident. I understand that I made a
- 8:00mistake and I've taken it very seriously.
- 8:03I respectfully ask the court to consider leniency because it's
- 8:07my first traffic citation. I've maintained a clean driving
- 8:10record for the past eight years. I'm currently a nursing student
- 8:15and I work very hard to maintain a good standing both
- 8:18academically and personally. This incident was not
- 8:23intentional or reckless. It does not reflect my normal
- 8:26driving habits. I've also learned from this
- 8:29experience, and I respectfully ask the court to consider
- 8:33reducing any penalties or points if possible.
- 8:37Fair enough. Thank you for your remarks and
- 8:39your preparation. Mr. Bruner.
- 8:40Officer Cole, what would you like to shoot?
- 8:42A. Motion to amend to impeding,
- 8:44Your Honor. Very well impeding traffic Mr.
- 8:48Bruner is a 0 point violation will not appear on your master
- 8:53driving record. So if that is acceptable to you,
- 8:58the court very well, the court will assess the fine.
- 9:02So there's be fine and there's an accident fee.
- 9:05So your grand total today, Mr. Bruno, is going to be $220.
- 9:09That is payable through the pay portal on the 44th District
- 9:12Court website. Or you can walk a cash checker
- 9:14charge into this court at 400 E 11 Mile Rd.
- 9:17Monday through Friday between 8:30 and 4:30.
- 9:20That's due within. Well, I'm going to mark this 21
- 9:23days and that completes your hearing.
- 9:26Please be careful out there. If we don't always obey those
- 9:31traffic code provisions, we can end up being our own patient in
- 9:36a healthcare perspective. OK.
- 9:38Good luck to you. Thank you, Your honor.
- 9:40Thank you, Officer only case number 26, RO 01860.
- 9:46This is people versus Kira Anastasia Polk.
- 9:52That's you. Yes.
- 9:54Here a Pope, today is the date and time for your informal
- 9:57hearing. You were present earlier when
- 9:59the court explained the nature of an informal hearing, correct?
- 10:02Yes. So you understood the court to
- 10:04instruct that you must select from one of three options to
- 10:07protect your rights, Yes. Yes, thank you.
- 10:11The citation for the court was issued April one this year at 5
- 10:15past eight in the evening. You were operating in 2012
- 10:18Toyota Silver and Color on Main Street and near Harrison in the
- 10:22city of Royal. At that place and time, you were
- 10:24cited for exceeding the posted speed limit by a minimum of 1 to
- 10:29a maximum of five miles over. Officers remark that shows on
- 10:34your ticket indicates defendant driving southbound Main from
- 10:38Harrison Front moving radar 45 and a 30 zone.
- 10:46So the margin of speed, at least in the officer's estimation with
- 10:51the instrument was considerably higher.
- 10:54But Officer Cole chose to write this for one to five over.
- 10:57Regardless, today's your day in court.
- 10:59You may admit responsibility, you can admit and explain, or
- 11:03you may deny responsibilities. The court will swear the parties
- 11:06and take your testimony. What do you wish the court to do
- 11:09for you? I'm going to say I'm not
- 11:13responsible. Very.
- 11:14Well, please raise your right hands.
- 11:18You both soundly swear the testimony you shall give before
- 11:20this court should be the truth. Yes, yes.
- 11:23Thank you. Very much.
- 11:23The officer testifies first. She's got the burden of proof
- 11:26today, Miss Polk commented. Is your turn, Officer Cole?
- 11:30Your Honor, I'm going to be completely honest.
- 11:32I did not receive a subpoena for Miss Polk today.
- 11:36So I didn't. Have any ample time to print out
- 11:38her ticket or prepare anything? I did not receive a summons for
- 11:43her. Very well.
- 11:46So you don't have any comfort level to give any testimony
- 11:52today? No.
- 11:52Your Honor all. Right.
- 11:54And in the absence of that, you have not at least made a prime
- 11:59aphasia case. So at this time, Miss Bolt, the
- 12:03court is going to find you not responsible.
- 12:06Oh, OK. All right.
- 12:07What does? That mean I'm I'm.
- 12:09Good, that means. You're, you're, you're, as they
- 12:11used to say, off the hook. However, the court would remind
- 12:15you that the traffic code is simply a safety regulation for
- 12:19everybody's benefit. So please be careful out there.
- 12:23It's particularly a dangerous driving season, especially with
- 12:27the motorcycle people coming back up.
- 12:29OK. Good luck to you.
- 12:31Thank you so much. Have a great day.
- 12:34Good morning. Once again everybody, it is TCF
- 12:35live on a Wednesday. Good to have you all here.
- 12:40Things are starting to kick off now, but still a little bit
- 12:43slow. So we're going to continue to
- 12:44ride with magistrate here for one or two more cases.
- 12:48Calling case number 26, RO 01715.
- 12:52This is people versus Jamarika Ramsey.
- 12:55That's you. Yes, Sir.
- 12:57Good morning, Miss Ramsey. Good morning.
- 12:59Report, District Court, this is your informal hearing.
- 13:03It is not a criminal matter. Nobody goes to jail today on
- 13:06this ticket, but it's serious enough that Officer Cole issued
- 13:09a citation on the date in question.
- 13:11That day was in fact, March 28th of this year at about 20 minutes
- 13:18of one in the morning. You were operating in 2017 Land
- 13:21Rover Grand Color on 13 Mile Rd. at near Woodward.
- 13:25At that place and time, it was discovered your vehicle plate
- 13:27had expired a couple of days after Christmas.
- 13:31So you have three options. You can admit responsibility in
- 13:33this manner. You can admit, explain and
- 13:36display an updated registration or you have every right to deny
- 13:40responsibility. The court will swear the parties
- 13:42and conduct your trial. What do you wish the court to do
- 13:45for you? The second option if it's
- 13:48responsibility and show updated registration.
- 13:51OK. So on the date in question, you
- 13:53were operating a motor vehicle in the City Road with A tag that
- 13:56had expired on December 27th of 25, correct?
- 14:00Yes. Correct.
- 14:01Thank you. Do you accept your updated
- 14:03registration? Yes.
- 14:05Your honor, it's. And it's.
- 14:08Listed somewhere on here that is the.
- 14:11It's. For the Yep, the Land Rover A.
- 14:12Little bit, OK, And that looks like it was acquired in April.
- 14:18So the only suggestion the court would make is get that decal on
- 14:23your plate ASAP. OK, Any motions motion.
- 14:27To dismiss, Your Honor, thank. You, this one is dismissed.
- 14:30Miss Ramsey, you're a very young person.
- 14:33Couple days after Christmas every year for the next 70
- 14:36years, you're going to need to get your license plate updated.
- 14:40Good luck to you. Thank.
- 14:41You, your honor, have a good day, you all.
- 14:46I think I've exhausted your motorists.
- 14:50Your honor, I have Officer Blitz here Next up for you.
- 14:53Terrific. Thank you.
- 14:55Have a good day. Thank you if.
- 14:57We're begin completely honest. He didn't just exhaust the
- 14:59motorist. I think he exhausted that
- 15:01officer as well. She looked bored as hell.
- 15:04We'll come back to the magistrate.
- 15:05Let's go down to Lake County, Ohio, and say good morning to
- 15:09Judge O'Donnell. To Count 3 of the indictment,
- 15:15that being possession of heroin, a felony of the third degree in
- 15:19violation of ORC 2925.11. Should that plea be forthcoming,
- 15:23it's the State's further understanding that the defense
- 15:26will request the appropriate reports and the matter will be
- 15:28deferred for sentence. All right, Mr. Patterson, is
- 15:32that correct? Yes.
- 15:33John. But the other charges, of
- 15:34course, would be dismissed, right all.
- 15:37Right, Mr. Davis, how old are you?
- 15:3930. 4 How far did you go through school?
- 15:42When? You're a college.
- 15:43Are you? AUS citizen?
- 15:44Yeah. Are you able to read, write and
- 15:45understand the English language? Yes, prior to coming according
- 15:49to taking any drugs or alcohol or any prescription medication
- 15:52in the last 48 hours, have you? Ever.
- 15:55Been diagnosed with or treated for any mental illness.
- 15:59Did you get a copy of this indictment?
- 16:01Yes, all. Right.
- 16:02And so. It's my understanding you're
- 16:04pleading guilty to count 3, possession of heroin a felony 3
- 16:08and then the remaining counts will be dismissed at the time of
- 16:11sentencing. Is that your understanding?
- 16:13Yes, all. Right.
- 16:15The prosecutor indicated he would remain silent at the time
- 16:18of sentence. OK.
- 16:20Is that right as far as? Deferred as sentencing but he
- 16:22says does he tell you that he my.
- 16:25Understanding is that the. Defendant will defer to.
- 16:29The court in terms of fashioning assent or the.
- 16:32The state. Will defer to the the court in
- 16:34in terms of fashioning assentance.
- 16:36All right, all. Right.
- 16:38Mr. Davis, before I accept the guilty plea, I need to determine
- 16:41that you know and understand the constitutional rights you'll be
- 16:43waving, the consequences of your guilty plea, and the maximum
- 16:47penalty I could give you. And I need to be satisfied that
- 16:50you're guilty plea is being made freely, knowingly and
- 16:53voluntarily. So I'm going to ask you
- 16:54questions. If you don't understand a
- 16:56question, stop me. If you want to talk to Mr.
- 16:59Patterson some more, let me know and I'll give you more time.
- 17:01You understand that? You.
- 17:04Have a. Constitutional right to have a
- 17:06trial either to me or to a jury of 12 Lake County citizens.
- 17:09Do you understand that right? Yes.
- 17:11Ron, are you? Waving that right, Yes.
- 17:13Ron if. You go to a jury trial.
- 17:15All 12 members must agree to a guilty verdict before you could
- 17:18be found guilty. Do you understand that right?
- 17:20Yes, Ron, are you? Waving that right.
- 17:22Yes, Ron, if. You go to trial, the prosecutor
- 17:24will call witnesses to testify against you.
- 17:26Do you understand the prosecutor must prove you guilty beyond a
- 17:29reasonable doubt at a trial? Yes.
- 17:31Ron. After.
- 17:32The witnesses are done testifying for the prosecutor.
- 17:35You have a constitutional right to have your lawyer cross
- 17:37examine the witnesses. Do you understand that right?
- 17:40Yes. Sir, are you?
- 17:40Waving that right? Yes, Sir.
- 17:42If. You go to trial, you have the
- 17:43right to have witnesses come here and testify for you.
- 17:46Do you understand that right? Yes, Sir.
- 17:48Are you? Waiving that right.
- 17:49Yes, Sir, if those. Witnesses refused to come to
- 17:52court. I'll issue an order, call the
- 17:53subpoena to make them testify. Do you understand that right?
- 17:56Yes, Sir. Are.
- 17:57You waiving that right? Yes, Sir.
- 17:58You have the right to testify at trial if you want to.
- 18:01Do you understand that right? Are you?
- 18:03Waving that right, Do you have the constitutional right to not
- 18:06testify at trial if you do not want to?
- 18:08Do you understand that right? Are you waving that right?
- 18:12If. You decide not to testify at
- 18:14trial. Nobody is permitted to comment
- 18:16on that decision. Do you understand that if you go
- 18:19to trial and you're found guilty, you have the right to
- 18:22appeal the guilty finding? Do you understand that right?
- 18:25Are you waving that right? If.
- 18:27You file an appeal, you have the constitutional right to have a
- 18:30lawyer represent you in the appeal.
- 18:31Do you understand that right? Are you?
- 18:33Waiving that right. If.
- 18:35You could not afford to hire a lawyer.
- 18:37One would be provided at no cost to you.
- 18:39Do you understand that? If you file.
- 18:42An appeal. You're entitled to have a
- 18:43transcript of all the hearings in this case.
- 18:45Do you understand that right? Are you waving that right?
- 18:49If you could not afford a copy of the transcripts, they'd be
- 18:51given to you at no cost. You understand that?
- 18:54If. You plead guilty today.
- 18:56You will not have the right to appeal the guilty finding.
- 18:58Do you understand that? Do.
- 19:00You have. Any questions about any of these
- 19:02rights? No, no.
- 19:03Do you still? Want to plead guilty to this
- 19:05charge? Yes, Sir, You understand.
- 19:07By pleading guilty, you're fully admitting your guilt to the
- 19:09charge. Yes, Sir.
- 19:10You. Understand by without pleading
- 19:11guilty to this felony or voluntarily giving up your
- 19:14freedom for whatever period of time I could sent you to prison,
- 19:17to jail or to community control and count. 3 Possession of
- 19:22heroin is a felony 3 It carries a maximum prison sentence of 36
- 19:28months and a maximum fine of $10,000.
- 19:31Do you understand that? The.
- 19:33Fine. In.
- 19:34In this count is mandatory. The minimum is at least 5000 up
- 19:39to 10,000. Do you understand that?
- 19:43And also with regard to this count, there's a presumption
- 19:48that a prison sentence should be imposed as as when it comes time
- 19:53for sentencing. And you must overcome that
- 19:56presumption at the time of sentencing or a prison sentence
- 19:59must be imposed. You understand that?
- 20:02Any. Questions about that?
- 20:04Are you presently on post release control to the parole
- 20:07authority? No.
- 20:08John, do you understand your guilty plea may result in a
- 20:11driver's license suspension between six months and five
- 20:14years? Yes.
- 20:15Sean, you. Understand your felony
- 20:16conviction prevents you from owning or possessing a firearm.
- 20:20Yes, Sean. Do you?
- 20:21Understand if a prison term is imposed.
- 20:22In this case, you might have to serve a period of post release
- 20:25control as part of your sentence or up to two years under the
- 20:29parole authority. If you.
- 20:31Are placed on post release control and violate any
- 20:33conditions of parole. Authority could send you back to
- 20:36prison for up to nine months for each violation.
- 20:38Up to 1/2 of my sentence. Do you understand that?
- 20:42If the. Violation of post release
- 20:45control is a new felony. You could get an additional
- 20:48consecutive prison sentence for that violation.
- 20:50Do you understand that? If that were to occur.
- 20:53The maximum prison sentence for the violation would be the
- 20:56greater 12 months or the time left under post release control.
- 21:00Do you understand that? Do you understand that if a
- 21:03prison term is imposed in this case, you are eligible for
- 21:06judicial release? Yes, Sir.
- 21:08I. Could.
- 21:09Place you on community control for up to five years, but if you
- 21:12violate any conditions, I could send it to prison for 36 months.
- 21:15Do you understand that? Has anybody promised you that I
- 21:19would be lenient on you just because you're pleading guilty
- 21:22today? Has anybody?
- 21:23Promised you what I will sentence you to in this case.
- 21:26Do you? Understand at the time of
- 21:27sentencing I do not have to follow the sentencing
- 21:30recommendation of either the prosecutor or your lawyer.
- 21:33Have you had enough time to talk to Mr. Patterson before pleading
- 21:36guilty today? Has he?
- 21:38Discussed everything about your case and answered all of your
- 21:40questions. Questions.
- 21:42Are you? Satisfied with the advice he has
- 21:44given you. Have.
- 21:45You been threatened or coerced in any way to plead guilty
- 21:48today. Are you freely, knowingly and
- 21:51voluntarily entering your guilty plea?
- 21:53Do. You have.
- 21:54Any questions at this point? No, All right.
- 21:56This narrowed. If this case went to trial, what
- 21:58would the evidence show? The enter.
- 22:00Had the State proceeded to trial with respect to Count 3, the
- 22:03State would have brought forth the following facts that
- 22:05demonstrated on or about August 6th of 2025 in Willoughby, Lake
- 22:09County, Ohio, the defendant was in possession of five point or 5
- 22:14grams of heroin, a Schedule 1 controlled substance.
- 22:18The facts were this judge, The Willoughby Police Department on
- 22:21August 6th utilized the confidential informant to make
- 22:24telephonic contact with the defendant to a number attributed
- 22:28attributed to the defendant. As a result of that phone
- 22:31contact, arrangements were made between the confidential
- 22:35informant and the defendant to meet in Osborne Park and conduct
- 22:39a drug transaction. At the time of that transaction,
- 22:43the defendant was taken into custody and found to be in
- 22:45possession of the 5 grams of heroin.
- 22:48The heroin was sent to the crime lab and determined to weigh just
- 22:52that, 5g and to be Schedule 1 controlled substance all.
- 22:56Right, Mr. Patterson, anything to add to those facts?
- 22:59No, you're not. At this time, I've reviewed all
- 23:01the the videos, I've reviewed all the statements, and this is
- 23:05exactly what I was forwarded to when I was given the discovery
- 23:10by the prosecutor's office that it happened on August 6th, 2025,
- 23:15and it was a controlled substance and 5G.
- 23:19I believe that was when it was tested.
- 23:20It was 5G, yes. All right, Mr. Davis, did you
- 23:23hear what Miss Naroda said? That the facts would show if the
- 23:26case went to trial? Yes.
- 23:28And are. Those facts True.
- 23:30Yes, all. Right.
- 23:31What is your plea to count? 3 Possession of heroin, a
- 23:33felony. 3 Guilty. Yeah, we'd like to get afforded
- 24:05to copy these. I'm sure we will.
- 24:15For the record, Judge, handing you the written plea of guilty.
- 24:19It has been signed by Mr. Patterson and the defendant.
- 24:24They had an opportunity to review it before coming on the
- 24:31record. All.
- 24:32Right. Mr. Davis, is this your
- 24:34signature on this written plea of guilty?
- 24:36Yes, John, did you sign? It voluntarily, yes.
- 24:39John, do you want me? To accept your written plea of
- 24:41guilty, Yes. All right, I will accept.
- 24:43The written plea of guilty Defendant was president Mr.
- 24:46Patterson advised of all of his rights been annoying intelligent
- 24:48voluntary waiver. He understands the nature of the
- 24:51charge the consequence of his guilty plea in the maximum
- 24:54penalty find it to be knowing intelligent, voluntary will
- 24:56accept the plea of guilty and find him guilty of count 3
- 25:00possession of heroin a felony 3. I refer this for a pre sentence
- 25:03report. Sentencing will be June 24 at
- 25:071:00 PM and. June 24th June. 24th, 1:00 PM.
- 25:12The bond is continued. Anything else, Miss Naroda?
- 25:16I'm. Sorry, did you said a pre
- 25:17sentence investigation and did you say drug now pre pre
- 25:21sentence? Pre sentence OK, nothing
- 25:24further. Judge, Mr. Patterson, anything
- 25:25further? No, thank you all.
- 25:27Right, we're adjourned. It's TCF Live.
- 25:34Nice to have you all here today to our new friends.
- 25:36Good morning to you as well. Barbara, thanks for the $10
- 25:40calls out. Todd says there's a late fee for
- 25:43members only. The fee is $10.
- 25:45I've got this one covered for you.
- 25:47Todd immediately sasses back. Well, you've been laid a lot
- 25:51lately. Did you pay your fee?
- 25:54And then Barbara responded with five gifted memberships.
- 25:57I'm assuming that was to cover her late fees.
- 25:59And Wahoo, thank you for gifting a membership.
- 26:02So I appreciate all of you so much.
- 26:04Let's go, Judge McNally. Let's go there in your.
- 26:09House in a fenced in the yard or on a leash or on a leash
- 26:14accompanied by a suitable adult and equipped with a muzzle.
- 26:17Do you understand it? Yeah, you did.
- 26:21And this is the same dog, correct?
- 26:23Do you have any other dogs? What kind of dog?
- 26:25Do you have any dogs? Kimmy.
- 26:28Cheryl. All right.
- 26:30I'm going to. Give you both a personal bond,
- 26:32$500. You cannot leave the state
- 26:34without the consent of the court to violate a law.
- 26:36You must appear in court as directed.
- 26:38My court officers going to take the file to the prosecutor and
- 26:42you can go out in the hallway and the prosecutor will call you
- 26:46and as it meet this, she's ready.
- 26:48OK. Any questions?
- 26:50Either one of you, Ma'am. Ma'am, No.
- 26:53OK. Good luck.
- 26:54Thank you. All right, Board Taurus.
- 26:57Brandon Johnson, 26B150198. Good morning, 82. 378 Mr.
- 27:06Johnson. All right.
- 27:08So we have a charge here, resist and obstruct.
- 27:11As I understand it, he's going to plead guilty to that charge,
- 27:14correct? Correct.
- 27:16Under 7. 71 point. Right.
- 27:18He's also going to plead guilty to the possession of a
- 27:20controlled substance charge under 7411 and then the
- 27:24prosecutor is going to do dismiss the expired plate.
- 27:27True. Yeah.
- 27:28Is that what you want to do? Have you plead guilty of the
- 27:31possession of a controlled substance charge that is
- 27:34punishable by up to $500 under local ordinance fines, 500 costs
- 27:4090 days jail or all of those? The same holds true with regard
- 27:44to the resistant hinder and obstruct charge.
- 27:46I'm going to take the drug charge under 7411.
- 27:49I'm going to take the resistant obstruct charge under 771.1.
- 27:54I'll place you on probation after you come back for
- 27:57sentencing. And if you're compliant at the
- 27:59end of the probationary time, the case would be dismissed,
- 28:01Both of them. Would you understand that, Sir?
- 28:03Yes. So I'm essentially all right.
- 28:06Did you sign, read and understand the advice of rights
- 28:08form here today? Yes, Sir.
- 28:10If you plead guilty, you'll be giving up all those rights and
- 28:13we're not going to have a hearing or a trial.
- 28:14Do you understand that? Yes, Sir.
- 28:16All right. You still wish to plead guilty
- 28:19to the charge? Resisting and obstruction
- 28:22officer. How do you plead to the charge?
- 28:24Possession of the controlled substance.
- 28:25How do you plead? Were you in the Township of
- 28:29Brownstown on February 1 of 26 at 1:57 in the morning on I-75
- 28:33near Sibley? Yes.
- 28:36And were you in possession of the controlled substance?
- 28:38And if so, what? And help them What?
- 28:40What kind of drug? Yes, there was two last.
- 28:44Call them. All right.
- 28:45You did not have a prescription for those?
- 28:48Where were they? On your person, Yes.
- 28:52In your pocket or what? Yes.
- 28:54And what did you do to resist Tinner and a productive officer?
- 28:57I didn't pull over until enough time.
- 28:59I'm sorry. I didn't pull over enough time.
- 29:01I see the officer. So the officer was following
- 29:05you, his lights were oscillating, siren on, and you
- 29:08didn't pull over? Yes.
- 29:09Sir, it was 2:00. In the morning there was.
- 29:11Police just flying. By me, I didn't know they just.
- 29:13Pulled me over, I came up off my exit to go home and the officer
- 29:17was still behind me and I pulled over and that's when they said I
- 29:21would take too long to pull over.
- 29:23Is that is that the reason they wrote him?
- 29:25I'm. Sorry, I did.
- 29:26I didn't. Hear you.
- 29:27I'm sorry, I'm looking at this, says the officer attempted to
- 29:30effectuate a traffic stop. The dependent continued
- 29:33traveling South on I-75, Exited I-75, turned down the West,
- 29:38found West road, continue to glue the through fairway.
- 29:41Was the officer following you the whole time?
- 29:43I'm not sure. Sorry.
- 29:44Well, you make that sound like you didn't don't think you did
- 29:46anything wrong. And if that's the case, that's
- 29:48fine. I don't want you pleading guilty
- 29:50to anything. Did you know the officer was
- 29:53followed? Was was pursuing you?
- 29:56And did you continue to flee and elude the officer in attention?
- 30:01Yes, Sir. No, Sir.
- 30:03OK, you can set up for We'll set it for trial.
- 30:07You can have a seat and I'll we'll figure out when the trial
- 30:10date's going to be. OK, Thank you.
- 30:12Have a seat, Raymond Lawrence winner the 2nd Q6B15O596.
- 30:18Your name, Raymond. Lawrence, you're charged.
- 30:20With malicious destruction of property, you have the right to
- 30:23an attorney. Would you like one?
- 30:24Yes. All right, We're going to set
- 30:26you up with a lawyer and we'll go from there.
- 30:29OK. Defense lawyer.
- 30:31All right. Detroit Disposal 26 UO 24-O58-A
- 30:37and B&C. OK, good morning.
- 30:41Good. Morning, Your Honor, George
- 30:42Howell appearing on behalf of Detroit Disposal.
- 30:44I have full authority from my client to resolve this matter on
- 30:47their behalf. I have met with the Township
- 30:49attorney and we have come to an agreement whereby on the wait
- 30:54charge we'll pay a flat fines and costs of $1000 and in
- 30:59exchange also dismissal of the two defective equipment charges.
- 31:04OK. And you're authorizing that plea
- 31:06on behalf of the defendant, true to overweight?
- 31:09Yes, you're on to that. Charge of overweight violation
- 31:12responsible or not responsible. Responsible, Your Honor.
- 31:15OK, I'm. Going to accept your plea.
- 31:17I'm going to go ahead and assess fines and costs on that of $1000
- 31:23that they can pay by June the 20th.
- 31:26And I'll go ahead and dismiss the other charge of overweight.
- 31:30I'm sorry, defective equipment, both of those charges of
- 31:32defective equipment as set forth in files B&C.
- 31:36OK, have a great day. Thank you very much you.
- 31:39Too. Thank you people.
- 31:41Against Wadislavs Sire Chuck 26B15O8O8.
- 31:50Good morning, Your Honor. For the record, Gregory
- 31:52Slapolsky, P41341 appearing on his behalf.
- 31:55Your Honor, have authority to plead responsible to one added
- 31:58count of distracted driving local ordinance violation.
- 32:01I asked the court to accept the plea and give my client 10 days
- 32:05to pay fines and costs. What's?
- 32:07He what's he do for a living? Is he a NASCAR driver?
- 32:11Your honor, I appreciate the, the, the, the question.
- 32:15I do not know. I saw the ticket.
- 32:16I was puzzled. His parents are more than
- 32:19puzzled. His parents are very upset.
- 32:20So hopefully this was a learning experience for this young man.
- 32:24He's 19 years old. Yeah, he's driving like a
- 32:26maniac. 96 miles an hour to the charge of distracted driving.
- 32:31Responsible or not responsible? Responsible, your honor, when
- 32:34they're 19, they're they're not thinking straight so.
- 32:37Accept the plea, dismiss the speeding on motion of the
- 32:41prosecutor. 190 is going to be his total and he's going to pay
- 32:45that by May the 27th. OK, 190 by May the 27th.
- 32:50Got. It thank you so much your Honor,
- 32:51have a. Good day.
- 32:52You too, your honor. Okie, Dokie friends, good
- 32:54morning once again. Let's go down to Florida.
- 32:59Wade Mercer, say good morning there because you've been
- 33:01charged, arrested for one kind of disorder, intoxication, and
- 33:04one kind of resisting an officer with violence.
- 33:07Mr. Dougal is here on your behalf.
- 33:09I read the complaint. Mr. Dougal, any input?
- 33:13Do you want me to be aware of, Sir or any argument, Judge?
- 33:16I would question the probable cause because if you go through
- 33:19it, the officers are there. Mr. Pandya is clearly the owner
- 33:24of the hotel. He's clearly listed as being in
- 33:27the office at that time. So I don't know how he would be
- 33:31out among the public being able to, which is one of the
- 33:35requirements of disorderly intox.
- 33:37There's a presumption that he was intoxicated.
- 33:41I have no idea if he's suffering from some other type of medical
- 33:47problem during that time period that was never established and
- 33:52then. It.
- 33:54Leads from that to the resisting an officer with violence.
- 33:59If Mr. Pandia, you know, once again, they keep saying that the
- 34:03lobby's open to the public. If he's the owner, he has the
- 34:06right to close that lock that at any time he wants.
- 34:11And that appears to be from the complaint affidavit.
- 34:14Of what he. It.
- 34:16Did so. You know, I just questioned the
- 34:20probable cause And then on the resisting with violence, just
- 34:24because you stand there in AI guess offensive position, I
- 34:30don't know if that makes the requirement of resisting with
- 34:32violence. I don't believe there was
- 34:34actually violence done in order to make it with violence.
- 34:39At. That time.
- 34:41And then same as two as if that was the case, you know?
- 34:45You can, certainly. Resist an unlawful arrest if
- 34:49they're not at that time. So that would be my arguments on
- 34:54that. I know it's going to be brought
- 34:56to your attention because Mr. Mitchell was nice enough, along
- 34:59with Mr. McDaniel, to let me know that Mister Pandya had been
- 35:02arrested. So I'm just kind of here as a
- 35:05courtesy to Mr. Pandya and. To the.
- 35:09Court, just because I do represent Mr. Pandya on a
- 35:12pending DUI case, I know that will be brought and I know Your
- 35:15Honor probably is already aware of that.
- 35:18So I would ask the court take. That into consideration too
- 35:20because I know the court's normal policy would be to revoke
- 35:24the bond on the DUI case and I would ask the court to take the
- 35:31lack of probable cause on these new charges and not do that on
- 35:35Mr. Pandy's behalf Thank you Mr. Doug well thank you for being
- 35:39here on behalf of your client in your client in the misdemeanor
- 35:42case Mr. Mitchell. Yes, your Honor, I'll start with
- 35:46as it goes to the disorderly intoxication, I'm looking at the
- 35:49jury instruction when it comes to that follows the statute when
- 35:53it comes to that it. Says in this.
- 35:55Situation statements only prove the following two elements
- 35:58beyond a reasonable doubt. 1 The defendant was intoxicated and he
- 36:03or she endangered the safety of another person or property in
- 36:07this situation. There's allegations that Mister
- 36:10Pandya was intoxicated based on the indicators and that he was
- 36:15actually trying to get into room 215 where there were actually
- 36:19people in that room that law enforcement collected statements
- 36:23from that. And even if he may own the
- 36:26hotel, he has no right to go into the room unless.
- 36:31Well. Unless there's like extenuating
- 36:33circumstances when it comes to that, people would have like,
- 36:36the reasonable sense of privacy when it comes to their own hotel
- 36:42room. And the other part of it says
- 36:45the defendant wasn't toxic or drank any alcoholic beverage.
- 36:48In. A public place in or upon a
- 36:51public conveyance and he caused a public disturbance.
- 36:55The complaint alleges that Mister Pandya was.
- 36:59Being. Very loud, he was standing up,
- 37:03exposing his genitals with his pants around his ankles while he
- 37:08was experienced while he was showing all these signs of
- 37:11intoxication Additionally, As for the resisting part, he.
- 37:20Was. Actually, he was actually
- 37:23standing inside the doorway and holding the front door shut in
- 37:27an attempt to prevent law law enforcement from entering the
- 37:31public accessible lobby and then.
- 37:35That's. When they got in and started,
- 37:38you know, he started gesturing and throwing his piss up in a
- 37:41bald manner. We would contend that there is
- 37:44probable cause for the charges here and as a result, well, and
- 37:49there's also. Signs.
- 37:52Showing that he violated condition of his bond in the DUI
- 37:55case, which was no alcohol. I believe based on the
- 37:58circumstantial evidence here, he was under the influence of
- 38:01alcohol. So given all that, we would say
- 38:04ask the court to find probable cause and move to revoke his
- 38:08bond IN261-O8. CT is that what you say?
- 38:12One O 3 CT OK, so I rather complain a couple times.
- 38:16I think Mr. Doug will make some excellent points.
- 38:18I'm I don't disagree with Mr. I don't disagree.
- 38:21I think he probably can close the lobby anytime he wants.
- 38:23And I'm not sure that anything in the lobby would amount to
- 38:25disorder intoxication. The problem is from my
- 38:28perspective, the part of the complaint that says that causing
- 38:33a disturbance on the balcony area and disturbing the peace
- 38:36and quiet of the motel guest that was according to a guest
- 38:39that is probable cause for disorder intoxication.
- 38:43And this resisting with violence statute says resist with
- 38:47violence or offering a threatening to do violence.
- 38:49That's probable cause for that charge based upon the finding
- 38:51sense I'm not. That doesn't mean they can
- 38:53prosecute you for that to say to make that call.
- 38:55But for probable cause purposes, threatening to do violence does
- 38:58meet the definition of the statute.
- 38:59So I'm going to set your bond in the two new charges at $5000 on
- 39:03the disorder intoxication, $10,000 on the resisting.
- 39:06I am revoking your bond. You're out on bond.
- 39:08You have a condition, no alcohol.
- 39:10I'm revoking that bond in case number 26, one O 3 CT.
- 39:15You've got no bond in that case. So Mr. Panja, even though you
- 39:19have a bond set in the new charges or no point trying to
- 39:22post it, you're not going anywhere because you're out on
- 39:24bond. You have been arrested with new
- 39:26charges. There's probable cause and you
- 39:28have a condition not a possessor consume alcohol.
- 39:31So I'm going to ask the state to give me an order revoking his
- 39:33bond for there's probable cause to believe both of those, the
- 39:35new charge and the possession or consumption of alcohol.
- 39:39Mr. Panja, where that leaves you, Sir, as you've got a court
- 39:41date coming up with Mr. Dougal, that court date will stay the
- 39:44same unless Mr. Dougal and the state agree to a different court
- 39:46date. You also will now get a separate
- 39:49court date for felony case that you've not hired Mr. Dougal in
- 39:53yet. Should you hire Mr. Dougal in
- 39:55that case? This court date may change.
- 39:57I'm going to ask the state, excuse me, the jail to give you
- 39:59the court date notice for right now, which is June the 2nd.
- 40:03At 8:30 again, if you hire Mr. Douglas in the new case or if
- 40:06you hire any attorney, that court date may change.
- 40:09But right now that's going to be your court date.
- 40:11Mr. Douglas, thank you again for appearing.
- 40:13And anything else from your perspective today, Sir?
- 40:16Judge, I would ask one question. You know, Mr. Pandya did have a
- 40:20offer on the DUI case that consistent.
- 40:24I wouldn't accept the probation. I wouldn't accept the probation
- 40:27offer given the at this point. I'm not saying I wouldn't accept
- 40:30it a week from now, but today I would not accept the probation
- 40:33offer just to I wouldn't accept that.
- 40:37I think that's that would that wouldn't be appropriate.
- 40:39But I'm not saying I wouldn't accept probation at all.
- 40:41Only get the same time to look at it.
- 40:42I think there's a good chance this comes back and becomes
- 40:44resisting without and this Oriental and we can resolve
- 40:48everything at one time. Mr. Dougal So a week from now it
- 40:52might be a probation off on everything, but I've got to give
- 40:54the state time to look at that new charge.
- 40:55I I think you're make some excellent points.
- 40:57It's not your traditional resisting with violence, even
- 40:59though I think it may meet the statutory definition for
- 41:01probable cause. So Mr. Pangea, Mr. Mr. Douglas
- 41:04going to do what he can to try to see if he can get that case,
- 41:06move the misdemeanor court and try to resolve everything at one
- 41:08time. I don't want to, I don't want to
- 41:10plea. Take the probation plea that was
- 41:11offered to you and then the state transferred this new cases
- 41:15to a misdemeanor. And then I'd rather.
- 41:17Just wait and wrap everything up at one time.
- 41:18And plus, I don't have a problem at all with you being in jail
- 41:20based upon the complaint I've read.
- 41:22Mr. Dougal. Anything else today, Sir?
- 41:25No, judge. I think I've.
- 41:26I've put everything I could on the record.
- 41:28I think you've done a great job. Thank you for being here.
- 41:30I think our clerk has a question.
- 41:31Yes, ma'am, it'll stay the same unless Mr. Dougal moves it to a
- 41:37different day. So once Mr. Dougal speaks with
- 41:39Mr. Mitchell about what's going to happen with the new case, I
- 41:43might see him next week. Actually I won't see him next
- 41:45week because I won't be here, but I may see him the week after
- 41:47next to to resolve everything if the state decides to handle the
- 41:51new charges as a misdemeanor. That.
- 41:55Thank you for pointing that out. So if the court date stays the
- 41:58same as what you've already got him set for, Mr. Dougal, we need
- 42:00to be know that he we've got to connect to the jail on that
- 42:03event. So please let the clerk's office
- 42:05know if you're not going to move it up.
- 42:07And I don't think you can really make that call until you see
- 42:09what Mr. Mitchell's office does. But I will try to talk to Mr.
- 42:13Mitchell. And just to be clear, Mr.
- 42:17Pandya, just to be clear, I think Mr. Douglas argument, I
- 42:21think he's got an excellent argument that you don't have a
- 42:22disorder intoxication case inside that office because even
- 42:26though it may typically be open to the public, as Mr. Dougl
- 42:29argued, I don't not aware of any reason you can't lock that door
- 42:32anytime you wish. A lot of hotels that are run by
- 42:36one person, they may go to the restroom and lock the door and
- 42:39come back out from the restroom and unlock the door.
- 42:41I think that's a pretty good argument.
- 42:43The problem is the stuff that allegedly happened on the
- 42:45balcony. That's why I'm doing what I'm
- 42:47doing today. But thanks again, Mr. Dougal.
- 42:50Thank you, your Honor. Thank.
- 42:53You. Have a good day, Mr. Thank you.
- 42:57We do have one more person that has friends or family here today
- 43:00and that is Mr. Johnson. Marcus Johnson.
- 43:06Thank you, Your honor. You have a good day.
- 43:08Take take care. Mr. Dougl.
- 43:10I'll be in touch with you, James.
- 43:12Mr. Johnson, Good morning. And and if y'all work something
- 43:14out, I'll be here the week after next.
- 43:18Mr. Johnson, you're here because you've been accused of 1 count
- 43:20of possession of cannabis with intent to distribute, possession
- 43:23of marijuana over 20 grams and 3rd charge possession of drug
- 43:26paraphernalia. Your grandmother and your auntie
- 43:29are in the courtroom this morning.
- 43:30Mr. Johnson. I've read the complaint.
- 43:32There is probable cause of also literature criminal history,
- 43:35which only showed one charge of possession of firearm on school
- 43:39property on the school trip and that case was dismissed last
- 43:43year. That's the only thing I see.
- 43:45So I'm going to listen to the attorneys and I'm going to
- 43:47address your bond status. Mr. McDaniel, anything on behalf
- 43:49of Mr. Johnson? No, you don't.
- 43:52Mr. Mitchell, we just request that you be subject to random
- 43:55UA's. Mr. Johnson, I'm going to set
- 43:57you the normal bond I would set for these charges.
- 43:59Your bonds, $5000 on your two third degree felonies, $2500 on
- 44:03the misdemeanor. Your total bond is $12,500 cash
- 44:06or surety. You do have a condition of
- 44:09random your analysis as part of your bond.
- 44:11Mr. McDaniel. I was kind on the fence on a
- 44:14conditional lease offer or not. I decided not to offer
- 44:17conditional lease primarily because that what 2 reasons?
- 44:20Prior arrest is concerning, but it was dismissed.
- 44:23But the other reason is the sheet I've got from the jail
- 44:25says he's 20 years old with no job.
- 44:28So let me verify that. Mister Johnson, are you employed
- 44:31anywhere? No, Sir.
- 44:33I go to Chipola forwarder. OK, that's good.
- 44:36I didn't know that you got full time.
- 44:38You got Mr. McDaniel. Go ahead.
- 44:40I was going to say John, he was pretty honest in it.
- 44:42And I, you know, I don't want to call him out here in front of
- 44:44everybody, but he's pretty honest and pretty, you know?
- 44:47Acting at. Least that he was ready.
- 44:51They got called I suspect. You know, but he.
- 44:53Was pretty honest about. It Mr. McDaniel, the last time
- 44:55when he had him last year, he was set a cash bond.
- 44:58Is he asking for a cash bond alternative in this case, Mr.
- 45:03Mitchell, on the objection to a cash bond?
- 45:04No objection. So the equivalent of a cash bond
- 45:06for that particular bond would be go back to my notes 250 I
- 45:10think. Yeah, $12150 cash.
- 45:13So, so ladies, he's going to have a cash bond just like you
- 45:16had last year. That case was dismissed, but his
- 45:19cash bond is $12150 just like last time.
- 45:23If this case were is dismissed that 12:50 will be returned to
- 45:26whoever posted it. If this case is not dismissed
- 45:29and there's court costs and fines ever imposed, then that
- 45:321250 is taken and put towards court costs and fines under
- 45:34Florida law. So instead of having to go
- 45:36through a bondsman is bond is $12150 cash, he's got a
- 45:41condition of random urinalysis and the judge will give you a
- 45:43notice for his court date which will be June 2nd.
- 45:46June 2nd at 8:30 will be his court date in front of Judge
- 45:49Garcia. Do you ladies have any
- 45:51questions? Instead of cash.
- 45:59Any other? Questions.
- 46:00Mr. Johnson, do you have any questions?
- 46:02No, Sir. Mr. Mr. Johnson, wish you wish
- 46:04you the best. Yes, Sir.
- 46:06Thank you, ladies, for coming. That's it for friends or family,
- 46:11Mr. McDaniel. So we can go back to the next on
- 46:13the list, which is Willie Mack. Mack.
- 46:19Good morning. Mr. Mack, You're here because
- 46:20you've been accused of one kind of fraud.
- 46:22Race your motor vehicle. Mr. Mack, there is probable
- 46:25cause for the charge, and I'm going to appoint the publishers
- 46:28office to represent you. Mr. Mack, please listen to Mr.
- 46:30McDaniel. Your turn.
- 46:32You all right? I spoke.
- 46:32To Mr. Mack, no contest or charges listed. 10 days in the
- 46:35county jail, $400.00 fine one day jail credit.
- 46:37Did you say guilty? That will resolve this.
- 46:39Case. Today is waived to drop.
- 46:41The jury trial and call witness. Mr. Mitchell, is that agreeable
- 46:43with the state? It is Your honor.
- 46:45Mr. Mack, did you hear that agreement, Sir?
- 46:47Yes, Mr. Mack, do. You have any questions about
- 46:50that agreement? No.
- 46:53I don't think so. And Sir, is that the plea you
- 46:55would like to enter? At.
- 46:58This time. Yes.
- 47:00Mr. Mack, I would accept your believe no excuse me no contest
- 47:04fund to register a motor vehicle and driving it on the roads.
- 47:07I'm going to adjudicate you good at that offense and it should
- 47:10attend days in jail give you credit for one day the shift
- 47:12serve. I'm imposing the court costs and
- 47:14fines of $400.00 and they'll be reduced to a civil judgement if
- 47:18you don't get them worked out. Mr. Mack, I pulled your driving
- 47:20record because and when we had you last year, it was habitual
- 47:25driving license suspended or something.
- 47:26I just want you to be aware there's a pending suspension
- 47:28that's in there. You have about a license now,
- 47:31but according to the driving record, the state of Florida has
- 47:34notified you that you have a suspension that's about to take
- 47:36place and has something to do with insurance.
- 47:38So when you get out, make sure you got your driver's license
- 47:41straightened out before you drive anymore.
- 47:42I'm very pleased to see that you got them back after your last
- 47:46court date, but you're about to lose them again, so make sure
- 47:49you you take care of that when you get out before you drive.
- 47:52Mr. Mack, do you have any questions?
- 47:56Was. My motorhome told I.
- 47:59Was there driving their home for you?
- 48:01You know, I want to find out what it was.
- 48:03Told to you I talked to. The Sheriff's Office, Yeah.
- 48:05Whoever whoever did, let's see if there was sheriff's
- 48:07permutation. If it was FHPI, think this might
- 48:09have been FHP case? Yeah, it was Florida High Patrol
- 48:12that did the crass investigation.
- 48:14So that's who you would contact. You or your friends or family
- 48:16would contact Florida High Patrol to find out, to answer
- 48:18that question. That's that.
- 48:19The complaint doesn't tell us that.
- 48:23Wish you the best, Mr. Mack. We have Todd Clark next.
- 48:27You think sometimes they give you a toe slip?
- 48:29I didn't know that. Mister Clark.
- 48:31Good morning, Mr. Clark. You're here for first
- 48:33appearance. Accused of four counts of felony
- 48:35petty theft. Mr. Clark.
- 48:37There is probable cause for these four charges.
- 48:39Mr. McDaniel and Mr. Mitchell. The information has been filed
- 48:43by the state. The information adds 1/5 charge
- 48:47of organized scheme to defraud. I just saw that I contacted the
- 48:50clerk's office this morning and asked if because normally when
- 48:53that when that information is filed, the state that the clerk
- 48:57will issue a warrant on that fifth charge.
- 48:58And I wanted to make sure there wasn't going to be a warrant
- 49:00issued later because I want to go in first, appear on
- 49:03everything while I can. And they checked with Mr. Gill
- 49:07and then they notified me and said the state was not
- 49:09requesting an additional warrant.
- 49:10They felt like the bond on these 4 was going to be sufficient to
- 49:14ensure his appearance at court. So you've got 5 charges been
- 49:17filed against you, but only four of them were on the warrant that
- 49:21that was before the state actually filed the information.
- 49:24So I'm going to go ahead and set you a bond in these four cases.
- 49:26Mr. McDaniel, anything on behalf of Mr. Clark?
- 49:30Judge just said, you know, he's probably not working right now,
- 49:32but he's got advanced throat cancer and I think he's trying
- 49:35to look for some treatment options now.
- 49:37So you know I. Want to see?
- 49:38What happens? I don't know.
- 49:40I don't know if you can post a bond.
- 49:41I. I have but.
- 49:45That's all right. Thank.
- 49:47You and Mr. Mitchell, is he going to have the state?
- 49:49No, Your Honor. Mr. Park, you have a very
- 49:51extensive criminal history and I mean very extensive.
- 49:53Your bonds going to be $5000 each on these four charges.
- 49:56Your bond today is $20,000 cash or sure.
- 49:59Do you have a condition to have no contact with any Walmart
- 50:02after today until this case is over with?
- 50:04So Mr. Clark, you'll get to use the phone in a few minutes or to
- 50:06try to post that bond. If you post it, you'll be
- 50:08released. If you're not able to post the
- 50:10bond, Mr. Clark, then the public finance office will be in
- 50:13contact with you at the jail. The jail will give you a notice
- 50:15for your court date which should be June 2nd at 8:30.
- 50:19Mr. Clark, do you have any questions?
- 50:22So it's. OK.
- 50:28The next case is David Moore. Mr. Moore, Good morning.
- 50:34Mr. Moore. You're here because you've been
- 50:35accused of 1 count of driving on the influence, one count of
- 50:37rolling to race your motor vehicle and one count of
- 50:40attaching a license plate not assigned to motor vehicle.
- 50:43There is probable cause for these charges and I'm appointing
- 50:46the public office to represent you for first appearance
- 50:48purposes. Please listen to Mr. McDaniel.
- 50:52John, we just asked for a bond. He does work on the offshore
- 50:56boats and you know, so he's working.
- 50:58We just asked for he's got a bond.
- 51:02So under employment on the jail sheet, the pretrial release
- 51:06sheet is just left blank. So tell me about your your job,
- 51:10Mr. Moore. Where do you work at and how
- 51:11long have you been there? I work on a long line commercial
- 51:14fishing boat. I've been there about four
- 51:15months for jerk seafood out of Orange Port, Florida.
- 51:19Do you have any charges pending anywhere?
- 51:22No, Sir, I did. I just got out of prison to
- 51:25about a year ago. OK.
- 51:27You're not on any probation, correct?
- 51:29No, Sir, nothing. OK.
- 51:31I think you're entitled to a bond, Mr. Mitchell.
- 51:33Anything from the state. We just request that he not
- 51:35possess or consume any alcohol while I'm bond.
- 51:38Thank you. Mr. Moore.
- 51:40The speed you're allegedly going at while you are on the
- 51:42influence to the extension normal factories were impaired
- 51:46allegedly was 116 mph. Your bonds can be $5000 cash or
- 51:51surety on the DUI, $2500 on the other charges.
- 51:54Your total bond is $10,000. Total.
- 51:57Cash or surety, you do have a condition not to possess or
- 52:00consume alcoholic beverages while you're while this case is
- 52:04pending. So you'll get a chance to use
- 52:06the phone in just a few minutes, Sir, to try to post the bond.
- 52:08You post it, you'll be released. If you don't post it, we'll see
- 52:12it on upcoming jail arraignment docket.
- 52:14Your court date if you do post bond will be June 1st at 9:00
- 52:19AM. The jail will give you a notice
- 52:21for that day. If you if you don't post bond,
- 52:23we'll see a few days after that. You have any questions, Mr.
- 52:26Moore? No, Sir, isn't it?
- 52:28Have a good day, Sir. After Mr. Moore, we have Leonard
- 52:32Lunsford. Mr. Lunsford.
- 52:35Good morning. Miss Lunsford.
- 52:36You're here because you've been accused of 1 count of driving
- 52:38license suspended or revoked knowingly.
- 52:41Mr. Lunsford, there is probable cause for this charge.
- 52:44I've also looked at your criminal and your driving
- 52:46history. So your criminal history is not
- 52:47bad. Your driving history is.
- 52:49I'm going to appoint the public office to represent you and ask
- 52:52if you listen to Mr. McDaniel and he's going to tell me where
- 52:54we need to go from here. Mr. McDaniel Oh, yeah, we just
- 52:57asked for a bond. Mr. Mitchell State, Your Honor,
- 53:02Mr. Lunsford almost set you the normal bond I would set for this
- 53:04charge, which is $2500 cash or surety.
- 53:07You've got a condition not to drive a motor vehicle without a
- 53:09license. If you get your license issue
- 53:11straightened out, you drive all you want if you can afford the
- 53:13gas. But I know I.
- 53:15I stay at home a lot nowadays, but Mr. Lunsford, if you, if
- 53:19you, if you get caught driving without a license, Sir, that
- 53:22will violate your, your bond. So make sure you don't do that.
- 53:25You'll get a chance to use the phone in a few minutes to try to
- 53:27post the bomb, Mr. Lunsford. And the jail will give you a
- 53:30notice for your court date, which should be June 1st at 9:00
- 53:33AM. Mr. Lunsford, any questions?
- 53:35No. Wish you the best, Sir.
- 53:38Thank you. Yes, Sir.
- 53:45Mr. McDaniel, I think Mr. Mitchell has one thing and I've
- 53:48not got one statue I want to talk to you about.
- 53:53But as far as anything on the record, Mitch McDaniel, anything
- 53:56else on behalf of the Public Center's office, there you are.
- 53:59And Corporal, anything else in the jail today?
- 54:02No, Sir. Officer Whiterson, thank you.
- 54:05And Mr. Mitchell, anything from the state?
- 54:07Nothing as it pertains to perseverances.
- 54:09So, ladies and gentlemen, all righty, friends.
- 54:12That brings his docket to a close.
- 54:14Good morning once again, Hour one pretty much in the books for
- 54:17TCF Live on this lovely Wednesday.
- 54:22They're going to take us up to Michigan.
- 54:23Judge Simpson. I'm going to step out of the
- 54:25studio for a couple of minutes and grab some breakfast.
- 54:30Grandma. TCF made wonderful blueberry
- 54:32muffins yesterday, and Ellie kept me so busy this morning I
- 54:35never got to eat breakfast. So I'm going to go warm up one
- 54:38or two of those and I'll be right back with you shortly.
- 54:41But in the meantime, here's some Judge Simpson for you.
- 54:43Don't buy with me. This box with something tender
- 54:47matters, however one that's lively moving in the court for
- 54:52each part also does not believe there's a conflict either in the
- 54:54Michigan court rules. Other cases decided they're
- 54:56under to the extent of conflict does exist.
- 54:58Given the waivers, the court will consent to hear the
- 55:00matters. Court does call the case of the
- 55:03people of the State of Michigan versus Julia Blevins when you
- 55:07honor Reagan Cook for the people.
- 55:09Charolyn. Foster Talker on behalf of Julia
- 55:11Blevins. Your name?
- 55:13Julia. Blevins.
- 55:14I had. Before me a plea form that
- 55:15indicates that the defendant will be pleading as charged to
- 55:19retail fraud second degree the one year upon her successful
- 55:24plea while she's agreeing not, I think I'm up a line.
- 55:29You're. Not agreeing to dismiss
- 55:30anything. The defendant is agreeing to
- 55:34$789.74 restitution. Is that right?
- 55:38Yes, Your honor. All right.
- 55:40And also, there's a sentence agreement to a prosecutor's
- 55:44deferred sentence. That's correct, yes.
- 55:47Your. Honor, where we got what did I
- 55:50drink? Outsole signature.
- 55:52Sorry. No, it's Mr. Cook's all.
- 55:54Is that yours? I.
- 55:58Pick a person. Each day I'm going to blame for
- 56:00everything. All.
- 56:03Right. May I have her sworn?
- 56:06Testimony. You're about to give would be
- 56:08the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
- 56:10To help you God, I do state your name, please.
- 56:14Here, it is this court's understanding that you're going
- 56:16to plead guilty to the charge of retail fraud in the second
- 56:19degree. That is a misdemeanor punishable
- 56:21by up to one year incarceration, $2000 fine plus court cost.
- 56:25A fine could be increased to three times the value of the
- 56:27property taken. If that's greater than $2000,
- 56:30that would become the maximum fine.
- 56:31Do you understand that? Yes.
- 56:34Still wish to plead guilty? Yes.
- 56:36And to that charge, how do you plead guilty?
- 56:38Now you understand it by pleading guilty, you'll not have
- 56:40a trial of any kind, Yes. You.
- 56:42Signed an advice of rights form, is that correct?
- 56:45Any question regarding those rights, please look at paragraph
- 56:485. You'll see a copy on the podium.
- 56:50Those are your rights at your court of a trial.
- 56:51You understand it by pleading guilty of giving up those rights
- 56:54as well as all the rights on that form, yes.
- 56:56You understand you're giving up your right to appeal of right?
- 56:59Yes. Are you on probation or cruel?
- 57:01Has anybody promised you anything other than what's been
- 57:04stated here today on the record to get you to plead?
- 57:05No Anybody threaten your coercion?
- 57:09No, you're doing this voluntarily and of your own free
- 57:11will. Yes, and also because you
- 57:13believe that you are indeed guilty of this offense.
- 57:16Yes, on December 24th, 2025 at the location of 3145 Annivers
- 57:22Lane Rd., Pittsfield Township, Washer County, State of
- 57:25Michigan. What?
- 57:26Did you do at Meijer that makes you think that you're guilty?
- 57:32I love it like items into a cart and I walked out past point of
- 57:36you put. Merchandise in your cart and
- 57:38tried to walk out of the store without paying.
- 57:40I did walk out, yeah. Pardon.
- 57:42Yes. I did walk out.
- 57:43OK. You did walk out of the store,
- 57:45all right. And your intent was to steal
- 57:47that property. Yes, store.
- 57:50Was open to the public at the time.
- 57:51Sorry. What was the store open to the
- 57:53public at the time? Do you have anybody's permission
- 57:56to take that property? No.
- 57:58And this property you took was the property that was offered
- 58:00for Sale by Meijer? No.
- 58:01I mean, yes. Was the aggregate amount or the
- 58:05total amount of the property in excess of $200?
- 58:09Yes. Yes.
- 58:11All right, ma'am, I do have to apprise you that if between the
- 58:15time of my acceptance of your plan, the time of sentencing, if
- 58:18you commit misconduct as defined by the Michigan court rules, you
- 58:21would not be entitled to withdraw your plea and the court
- 58:24would not be bound by any sentence evaluation or
- 58:26recommendation. Do you understand that?
- 58:28Yes, Council, are you aware of any promises, threats or other
- 58:32inducements which have led to this plea, Some of these people?
- 58:34No. Your Honor.
- 58:35And have I complied with the court rule?
- 58:37Yes, Your Honor, Yes. Your Honor or?
- 58:39We'll accept the defendant's plea of guilty to this charge.
- 58:42Stage 20. All right.
- 58:44Yes, defending. Is referred.
- 58:46To. Probation for a pre sentence
- 58:48investigation and report sentencing in this matter will
- 58:52be. 12. June. 24th 2020 six 12 noon on
- 58:59will continue. Ma'am, stop down in my probation
- 59:01department on your way out and schedule your appointment.
- 59:05All right, thank you. Court calls the case people
- 59:07versus Russell Norvell. Morning, Your honor.
- 59:10Raymond Cook for the people. Carolyn Foster Tucker on behalf
- 59:13of Russell Norvell. Your name, Sir?
- 59:18Russell. Norvell.
- 59:20Your. Honor, I have been speaking with
- 59:22Mr. Cook. We would just be asking for one
- 59:24more adjournment. Mr. Norvell and I have just been
- 59:27going over discovery and we're trying to figure out a
- 59:29resolution. The.
- 59:31Last adjournment on this matter June 3rd.
- 59:35Adjourn the matter June 3rd, 2026, 9:00 AM.
- 59:38Bound to continue. That's an in person hearing.
- 59:42Your Honor, thank. You court calls case of the
- 59:44People versus Jacob Simmons. Carolyn Foster Tucker on behalf
- 59:49of Jacob Simmons, Carolyn. Foster Tucker Allen.
- 59:52Your name? Sir?
- 59:54Jacob Simmons. All right.
- 59:56And. Your Honor, we would also be
- 59:57requesting an adjournment in this case.
- 59:58I've been speaking with Mr. Cook and we're trying to resolve the
- 1:00:01case. June 3rd, 2026, 9:00 AM in
- 1:00:06person. On.
- 1:00:07Continue. Thank you.
- 1:00:09Thank you. Very poor coast case people
- 1:00:11versus Carla Bristow. Good morning, Your honor.
- 1:00:15Alexander Hermanowski with and on behalf Carla Bristow, who's
- 1:00:18appearing by Zoom. Carla, please state your name
- 1:00:20for the record. Carla Bristow all.
- 1:00:23Right, Your Honor, on this time and date set, go ahead the time.
- 1:00:28This is time and date set. Time and date set for pre trial.
- 1:00:32I just got in contact with Miss Bristow this morning.
- 1:00:35I was appointed on this. Case.
- 1:00:37Earlier this week and she does not have discovery packet yet.
- 1:00:42So we're going to be asking for an adjournment.
- 1:00:44So she has a chance to review that as well as giving me an
- 1:00:47opportunity to try to figure something out in this case for a
- 1:00:50resolution. So we're asking for a brief
- 1:00:52adjournment. I had.
- 1:00:54Before me a forum is that I believe on the public defender
- 1:00:58in this case there was going to be a plea.
- 1:00:59I got it. There was another pending case
- 1:01:02that may impact that. That case and review charges
- 1:01:05were declined on that case. So.
- 1:01:09Mr. Hermanowski hasn't seen everything correct.
- 1:01:12All right, I'll join the matter. June 3rd, 2026, 9:00 AM.
- 1:01:17Thank. You, Your honor.
- 1:01:19All right. Thank you.
- 1:01:20Bonds will continue back in the studio, my friends, if you can
- 1:01:24see down in the lower left corner, this is my breakfast. 2
- 1:01:28blueberry muffins cut in half, warmed up, buttered.
- 1:01:31Yummy. Thank you, Grandma.
- 1:01:32TCF. Let's get back to court.
- 1:01:35Brooks. They're not here.
- 1:01:37You're on a. I texted numbers from the pre
- 1:01:41sentence report because he was being sentenced before Judge
- 1:01:46Conlan and I represent him on 2 probation violations there.
- 1:01:51But I also talked to his lawyer on one of his cases before Judge
- 1:01:56Conlon, Miss Maribel, and she's supposed to send me OK.
- 1:02:01She did just now send me a number for his mom, so I'll try
- 1:02:05and call his mom. Thank you for calls.
- 1:02:07The case people versus Rebecca Bryson.
- 1:02:09Morning, Your honorable to the people.
- 1:02:11Hi. Bridal on behalf of Rebecca
- 1:02:13Bryson, your. Honor, good morning, Dan
- 1:02:15Garrett. We filed A substitution listing
- 1:02:18the public defenders exactly two attorneys, one case.
- 1:02:24Miss Bryson, can you unmute and identify yourself?
- 1:02:26Yes, I just did that. You are As indicated, We filed A
- 1:02:29substitution. We did it with the public
- 1:02:30defender's office, unaware that Mister Burdell had been
- 1:02:32appointed. We filed another one this
- 1:02:34morning. Got it.
- 1:02:35They'll signature on it. OK.
- 1:02:37All right. What are we doing?
- 1:02:38I'm asking for final settlement conference, please.
- 1:02:40And no objection to the Mr. Garren's motion, of course.
- 1:02:44Jerry Final Settlement Conferences 5th and A Yes.
- 1:02:48June 5th, 2026, 9:00 AM. Jury.
- 1:02:52Selection if necessary. June 2, 1026 8:30 Both of those
- 1:02:58proceedings are in person. Thanks BAR.
- 1:03:01Thank you, Bob. Continue court calls case versus
- 1:03:04Naval Krieger. Good morning on our Christina
- 1:03:10Saxon. Christina for the court, please.
- 1:03:16Yeah. And I'm asking for an
- 1:03:17adjournment. The PDS or I'm sorry,
- 1:03:20prosecutor's office was able to just send me.
- 1:03:22Some. Additional discovery a few
- 1:03:24minutes ago. During the matter June 3rd,
- 1:03:272026, 9:00 AM. Bond continue.
- 1:03:31Thank you. Yeah.
- 1:03:32Thank you Court House case people versus Franklin McDonald
- 1:03:35morning your. Honor Raven Cook with people.
- 1:03:37Good morning. How about you?
- 1:03:38It's on behalf of Mr. McDonald, who's approaching the court.
- 1:03:42State your name Franklin McDonald.
- 1:03:45Thank you. Can we get a final settlement
- 1:03:46conference, Dave? Absolutely, Jerry.
- 1:03:49Final settlement conference will be set for June 5th, 2026 9:00
- 1:03:53AM. Jury selection if necessary June
- 1:03:568th, 2026 8:30 Both of those proceedings are in person.
- 1:04:02Thank your honor. Thank you for calls the case
- 1:04:05people versus Gregory Peterson when your honor Ray people.
- 1:04:10Good morning your honor. I'm Thompson appearing on behalf
- 1:04:12of Gregory Peterson. Gregory, could you state your
- 1:04:14name for the record? Greg Peterson Your Honor Tuesday
- 1:04:17time set for arraignment pretrial.
- 1:04:19We waive reading stand mute to the charges and every way former
- 1:04:22reading standing for shipped court will enter a not guilty
- 1:04:24plea. Governor, I have had a chance to
- 1:04:27speak to the prosecutor in this matter.
- 1:04:28We would ask for a first and very likely last adjournment.
- 1:04:33I think we're close to work in this case on have received
- 1:04:35discovery yesterday from the prosecutor.
- 1:04:37Haven't had a chance. To go over it myself.
- 1:04:39And with my client, June 3rd would work for you.
- 1:04:42June 3rd would work herder the 17th whichever the third would
- 1:04:46be great Judge during the matter.
- 1:04:48June 3rd, 2026 9:00 AM. And also I so that councils are
- 1:04:54where normally the civil infraction would have gone
- 1:04:57before Judge Barr. I take it the civil infraction
- 1:05:02for convenience sake. And thank you, Judge.
- 1:05:05And so I'll adjourn that also to June 3rd, 2026 at 9:00 AM As the
- 1:05:11defendants found in this case, Sarah, I'll just set your body
- 1:05:14to $5000 personal with cognizance fund standard
- 1:05:17conditions including no assault behavior, possession, weapons
- 1:05:21and or firearms, no alcohol, recreational marijuana or any
- 1:05:24illegal drug. All right, thank you.
- 1:05:27Thank you, judge. It's a For Cause case.
- 1:05:30People versus Marita Bryant. Yes, yeah, I know.
- 1:05:36It's just a public plan. Bulkovich, behalf of Miss Blind,
- 1:05:38who should be appearing via Zoom.
- 1:05:40I am here trying to figure out how I get my camera.
- 1:05:43Sorry. OK here we are.
- 1:05:46OK. State your name please, Kirita.
- 1:05:49Bryant. Thank you.
- 1:05:52Yeah, and. I'll be requesting.
- 1:05:53Adjournment Mr. Cook indicated that he has a media discovery.
- 1:05:56He just needs to fill out a media notice and get over to my
- 1:05:58office there. 2020 six 9:00 AM. About and continue.
- 1:06:03Thank you, Miss Bryant. Thank you Honor Court House case
- 1:06:07people versus Aaron Burroughs. Ron.
- 1:06:10Brown, on behalf of Aaron Burroughs, see you here.
- 1:06:14Yes. I am, Sir.
- 1:06:15All right, state your name Aaron Burroughs.
- 1:06:19All right, I'm requesting adjournment, Your Honor, during
- 1:06:22the matter, June 3rd, 2026, 9:00 AM.
- 1:06:24Plan to continue. Thank.
- 1:06:26You. Thank you, Sir.
- 1:06:29Court House case people versus Paris Callaway.
- 1:06:31Your Honor, Raymond Cook from the people, Ron Brown appearing
- 1:06:33on behalf Terrace. Calloway.
- 1:06:35Good morning, Paris Calloway. All right, what are we doing?
- 1:06:38I'm requesting a German an adjournment after June 4th.
- 1:06:41He has a hearing on June 4th, which may give us a direction in
- 1:06:45this case. He has a hearing with D Ladd
- 1:06:4817th. Yes.
- 1:06:50Turn the matter June 17th, 2026, 9:00 AM on continue.
- 1:06:56Thank you. Thank you.
- 1:06:57You do the same court calls case people versus Nicole Coleman,
- 1:07:01Your honor, for the people. Coleman, Nicole.
- 1:07:05Coleman, I'm here. Nicole Coleman, thank.
- 1:07:08You, Mr. Connor. Assistant.
- 1:07:10Public Defendant Nick Buckovich on behalf of Miss Coleman, I
- 1:07:13believe Miss Coleman will be working with our mitigation
- 1:07:14team, so I'll be requesting an adjournment for that to be done
- 1:07:17during the matter. June 17th, 2026, 9:00 AM.
- 1:07:20Fine, continue. Thank you, ma'am.
- 1:07:22Thank. You for.
- 1:07:23Close case people versus Bryan Cowler and assistant public
- 1:07:28defender Nicholas Bukovich on behalf of Mr. Culver, who should
- 1:07:30be appearing via Zoom. Sir, yes, state your name Brian
- 1:07:36Culver. I'll be forming A plea form.
- 1:07:38Is that what we're doing? That is correct.
- 1:07:39The honor plea form indicates that he's going to plea to
- 1:07:42retail fraud third degree the 93 day which is as charge.
- 1:07:47The defendant is agreeing to pay $25.61 restitution and the
- 1:07:53sentence agreement of the prosecutors deferred.
- 1:07:55That's the first full understanding.
- 1:07:57That's correct, Your Honor. That's correct, Your Honor.
- 1:08:00Sir, could you please raise your right hand?
- 1:08:02Do you solemnly swear or affirm? Testimony you're about to give
- 1:08:05will be the truth. Hold truth.
- 1:08:06Nothing but the truth. So help you God.
- 1:08:08Yes. All right.
- 1:08:09State your name again, please. Brian Culver.
- 1:08:12Sir, it is this court's understanding you're going to
- 1:08:14plead no contest to the charge of retail fraud, third degree.
- 1:08:18That is a misdemeanor punctual by up to 93 days in jail, $500
- 1:08:22fine plus court cost. Fine could be increased if three
- 1:08:25times the value of the property. If that's greater than $500,
- 1:08:29that would become the maximum fine.
- 1:08:30You understand that, Sir? Yes.
- 1:08:33All right. Do you understand what a no
- 1:08:34contest plea is? Yes, All right.
- 1:08:38Two things about it I have to make sure that you understand.
- 1:08:40One is, is that first of all, it means that you're not further
- 1:08:44desirous or wanting to contest this charge.
- 1:08:46You understand that? Yes.
- 1:08:49Second thing is, is that for purposes of sentencing, the
- 1:08:51court is going to treat you the same as though you had pled
- 1:08:54guilty. You understand that?
- 1:08:55Yes, basis for no contest, plea. What's interesting about
- 1:08:58liability honor, Sir, to that charge, how do you plead?
- 1:09:02Guilty, really No meaning you're pleading no contest.
- 1:09:06Oh, no contest. Sorry, Sir.
- 1:09:08All right. Do you understand that by
- 1:09:10pleading no contest, you will not have a trial of any kind?
- 1:09:13Yes. All.
- 1:09:14Right. You signed an advice of rights
- 1:09:16form. I had one signed on your behalf,
- 1:09:18yes. Do you have any questions
- 1:09:20regarding any of those? No, Sir.
- 1:09:23Rights. You understand that you'll be
- 1:09:25waving all of those rights? Yes, Sir.
- 1:09:29Sir. Is there a problem?
- 1:09:31You got it. All right, Sir.
- 1:09:33You understand that you're waving, your waving all of those
- 1:09:36rights. My apologies.
- 1:09:38Yes. All right, that wasn't to you,
- 1:09:41Mr. Culver. Yes, that that wasn't.
- 1:09:43I wasn't. I wasn't raising my voice
- 1:09:46towards you. My apologies to you, Sir.
- 1:09:48All right. Sir.
- 1:09:51You understand that you're giving up your right to appeal
- 1:09:54of, right? Yes.
- 1:09:55Are you on probation or parole? No.
- 1:09:58Has anybody promised you anything other than what's been
- 1:10:01stated here today to get you to plea?
- 1:10:03No. Anybody threaten your coercion?
- 1:10:06No, you're. Doing this voluntarily enough
- 1:10:08your own free will. Yes.
- 1:10:10Court. Has been provided Pittsfield
- 1:10:12Township Department of Public Safety report for their case
- 1:10:15number 2419616. Any objection to the court
- 1:10:19having reviewed that report? None of them.
- 1:10:21People no you. Honor.
- 1:10:22Basically. Want to review that report.
- 1:10:24The court does find that there's a sufficient factual basis in
- 1:10:26which the court terminal defendants guilty this offense.
- 1:10:30Sir, I do have to advise you that if between the time of my
- 1:10:33acceptance of the plea and the time of sentencing, if you
- 1:10:36commit misconduct as defined in the Michigan court rules, you
- 1:10:39would not be entitled to draw your plea and the court would
- 1:10:42not be bound by any sentence evaluation or recommendation.
- 1:10:45You understand that, Sir? Yes, Council.
- 1:10:49Are you aware of any other promises, threats or other
- 1:10:51inducements which have led to discipline guns from the people?
- 1:10:54No, your Honor. And have I complied with the
- 1:10:56court rule? Yes, your Honor.
- 1:10:58Yes, Connor Court will accept the defendant plead guilty to
- 1:11:02this charge. Defendant is referred to
- 1:11:04probation for a pre sentence investigation and report.
- 1:11:08Sentencing in this matter will be June. 24th at 12 noon, June.
- 1:11:1224th, 2020 six 12 noon. Bond will continue.
- 1:11:16Do I have probation and tech ID? Sir, I'm going to ask you to
- 1:11:20remain online. We're going to put you into a
- 1:11:22breakout room with my probation department so we can start the
- 1:11:25sentencing process. OK.
- 1:11:27OK. All right, Thank you.
- 1:11:29Thank you. Alrighty everybody, it's
- 1:11:30Wednesday here at TCF live. Judging by the stats, there's
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- 1:11:47You can't do any better Todd, you gifted a membership earlier
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- 1:12:00keep being slow with regards to that.
- 1:12:03Let's stay in Michigan, but let's head up to Ingham County,
- 1:12:06the Lansing area, to the new favorite of this channel, Judge
- 1:12:10Aqualina. This is Docket 261639 FH and
- 1:12:20261635 FH People of the State of Michigan versus Ruben Martinez.
- 1:12:26Council, Your appearances for the record.
- 1:12:29Good. Morning.
- 1:12:29Your Honor, Sarah Brenner, Assistant Attorney General for
- 1:12:32the People. Good morning.
- 1:12:33Assistant Public Defender Sarah Donnelly, on behalf of the
- 1:12:35defendant, Ruben Martinez Junior, who is standing to my
- 1:12:38right, thank you. So please raise your hand.
- 1:12:41Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to
- 1:12:43provide with me? The truth, whole truth and
- 1:12:45nothing but the truth and nothing of perjury.
- 1:12:47You put your hand down. Wait till I'm done.
- 1:12:50So I'm talking over each other, Sir.
- 1:12:52Have you taken any medication yesterday or today?
- 1:12:55Are you supposed to be on medication?
- 1:12:57You're not on any sign of fever, COVID or other illness.
- 1:13:01If you had no time to speak with your attorney, yes.
- 1:13:04And are you AUS citizen? Yes.
- 1:13:07And are you gainfully employed? No.
- 1:13:10When was the last time you were employed?
- 1:13:13I'm self-employed. What did?
- 1:13:14You do. Carpenter.
- 1:13:17So. You are employed, you just don't
- 1:13:19have any business. Are you in jail?
- 1:13:20So I'm. Just.
- 1:13:22And. When you're out of jail, are you
- 1:13:24working heavily? Probably.
- 1:13:26Yeah. Well, it's either yes or no.
- 1:13:27Probably doesn't count in my book.
- 1:13:30If I have work, yes I'll. OK.
- 1:13:33So. I.
- 1:13:35Understand there's a place child support case, so no.
- 1:13:39No. I'm not working.
- 1:13:41OK. I have you an address in
- 1:13:48Tennessee. You're extradited here?
- 1:13:51No. I'll turn myself.
- 1:13:53In. Thank you.
- 1:13:55And is it Valley Creek Rd. still correct?
- 1:13:58Who lives there? My it's my father's house I
- 1:14:02rent. And my 6 year old child who's
- 1:14:06not part of this case, right? I have.
- 1:14:08A custody of Long Hotel. OK.
- 1:14:10Are you receiving child support in that case?
- 1:14:12Yes, ma'am. And on behalf of.
- 1:14:17The what is the agreement on each file?
- 1:14:22Your Honor? On each file, he's charged with
- 1:14:24three counts of pay or pay child support.
- 1:14:26He'll be pleading to count 1. We're dismissing count 2 and
- 1:14:29three on each file. Then further on each file looks
- 1:14:36like on 261635 FH he needs to pay restitution in the amount of
- 1:14:42$8530.21 he sent the balance of child support owned, yes.
- 1:14:48As of today, your own. So that's child support.
- 1:14:50OK. And then on the other file, he
- 1:14:53needs to pay $14,350.90? That's correct.
- 1:14:58OK. And then is this a continuing
- 1:15:00allegation? Yes.
- 1:15:02Your own all. Right.
- 1:15:03Thank you. Now that being said, Council, is
- 1:15:07that full pair accurate and complete?
- 1:15:09It is your. SO is that full pair accurate
- 1:15:12and complete? Yes.
- 1:15:15And Council, are you reading of counts 2 and three on each file?
- 1:15:21Yes. Your Honor.
- 1:15:22As to reading the felony information count 1 on each file
- 1:15:28you may proceed. The people of the State of
- 1:15:30Michigan versus Ruben Roja Martinez, Junior File number
- 1:15:35ending 1635 in the City of Lansing, County of Ingham, State
- 1:15:39of Michigan Honor about the dates of October 1st, 2021
- 1:15:42through February 28th of 2022. Sir Account One Child support
- 1:15:47failing to pay did not pay support for his child in the
- 1:15:50amount or at the time stated in an order entered by the Ingham
- 1:15:53County Circuit Court. And.
- 1:15:55File #20009001175DC. Contrary to MCL 750.165, this is
- 1:16:02a felony 4 years and or $2000 fine.
- 1:16:05In. File ending 1639 people of the
- 1:16:08state of Michigan versus Ruben Roll hot Martinez, You got to
- 1:16:11slow it down, man. You're going to wear out my
- 1:16:13court reported first case this morning.
- 1:16:14I'm sorry. You're not.
- 1:16:16People of the state of Michigan versus Ruben Roja Martinez,
- 1:16:20junior. In the.
- 1:16:22City of Lansing, County of Ingham, State of Michigan, Count
- 1:16:251 on or about the dates of October 1st. 20. 21 through
- 1:16:30February 28th, 2022. In the.
- 1:16:33City of Lansing, County of Ingham, State of Michigan.
- 1:16:36Account one child support. Failing to pay did not pay
- 1:16:39support for his child and the amount are at the time stated in
- 1:16:42an order entered by the Ingham County Circuit Court in file
- 1:16:46number 2018003670, DM, contrary to MCL 750.165.
- 1:16:55This is a. Felony 4 years and or $2000
- 1:16:57fine. Thank you, Sir.
- 1:17:01Did you understand what was just read?
- 1:17:03Yes, ma'am. So on each file you have one
- 1:17:07count of failure to pay child support, each are punishable by
- 1:17:12four years and one file you have an arrears rate $1530.21, which
- 1:17:18you agreed to pay, which by the way is the law.
- 1:17:21And Sir, if you continue to not pay, that number will grow and
- 1:17:26hopefully you've arranged or will arrange payment with the
- 1:17:32friend of the court so that you're continuing to pay as well
- 1:17:35as pay down that arrearage. And then in the other file you
- 1:17:38have $14,350.09 and you're aware of all of that?
- 1:17:43Yes. All right, thank you.
- 1:17:44Looks like you signed the advice of rights form on each file.
- 1:17:47Did you read it before you signed it?
- 1:17:48Yes, ma'am. Did you understand what you
- 1:17:50read? Yes, ma'am.
- 1:17:51And if you had any questions, your attorney was able to answer
- 1:17:54those in regard to your rights? Yes, ma'am.
- 1:17:56Do you have any questions about your rights of this court?
- 1:18:00And you understand that if someone forced, threatened,
- 1:18:02coerced you, promised you something we haven't made a
- 1:18:04record of, you need to tell me that now because if you come
- 1:18:06back later and say you should know plan, I don't have to
- 1:18:09accept that and I'll lie. It was joined plea.
- 1:18:13Are you? Pleading of your own free will.
- 1:18:15Any trial? And you're.
- 1:18:16Doing that after you've spoken with your attorney and you've
- 1:18:19been satisfied with the representation of counsel?
- 1:18:22Yes, ma'am. And you?
- 1:18:23Understand you are also giving up your right to avenge trial or
- 1:18:27jury trial, holding the people's their burden of beyond a
- 1:18:30reasonable doubt, losing the ability to cross examine any
- 1:18:33witnesses and evidence, to present evidence and witnesses
- 1:18:36on your own behalf and choose to remain silent or testify.
- 1:18:40Your understand you're giving them all of those, including the
- 1:18:43automatic right of appeal you would have if we went to trial
- 1:18:47as well as and that would be at each file.
- 1:18:50But now you have to ask permission of a Court of Appeals
- 1:18:53if you wish to appeal and you are only going to be granted
- 1:18:57that if the Court of Appeals agrees with the importance of
- 1:19:01your issues. You understand all of that?
- 1:19:02Yes, ma'am. Thank you, Sir.
- 1:19:04As to docket 261635, FH Count one child support, failure to
- 1:19:10pay. How do you please go, Sir?
- 1:19:12Asked to Docket 261639 FH Count one Child support failure to
- 1:19:18pay. How do you plead, Sir?
- 1:19:20You understood that you needed to pay child support.
- 1:19:26Yes, and. You failed to pay, yes.
- 1:19:29All. Right.
- 1:19:30And and is there any agreement as to whether or not there's any
- 1:19:37upfront jail or any other any went jail, any upfront jail,
- 1:19:41there's no agreement. OK, all right, very good.
- 1:19:44And so let's turn to Docket 261635 FH.
- 1:19:49Specifically, it's fair to say that under Docket 09117 DC.
- 1:20:01You were ordered by the Family Court judge and the friend of
- 1:20:04the court to pay child support. Is that a yes?
- 1:20:08Yes. And while you may have paid
- 1:20:11something, you accrued. Arrears.
- 1:20:13Because you didn't regularly pay.
- 1:20:14Is that fair to say? Yes.
- 1:20:16And right now that arrears is $8530.21.
- 1:20:21Yes, ma'am. Including other amounts that
- 1:20:25you're regularly supposed to pay.
- 1:20:27Is that fair to say? Yes.
- 1:20:29OK. And turning to 261639 FH, well,
- 1:20:37let me let me just go back, sorry, I kind of jumped ahead on
- 1:20:41the 261635 FH. This occurred in the city of
- 1:20:45Lansing County Dingham State of Michigan and that was doesn't
- 1:20:51have an address here but that would have been payable at the a
- 1:20:55friend of the court would be three O 3 W Kalamazoo St. and
- 1:21:01that's the same on 261639. This occurred in the city of
- 1:21:06Lansing County, Bingham, State of Michigan, again at the three
- 1:21:10O 3 W Kalamazoo address. And on the 2616 three five of
- 1:21:15eight, you failed to pay between the periods of October 1st,
- 1:21:212021. And actually, because cap two
- 1:21:25and three were dismissed, I'm simply going to say it's October
- 1:21:281st, 2021 through August 31st 2025 as I believe the amount
- 1:21:33encompasses all three counts even though he's only completing
- 1:21:371. Is that acceptable to both
- 1:21:38council, yes or no? And then on the 261639 FH Brown
- 1:21:44again, you failed to pay between the dates of October 1st, 2021
- 1:21:51through July 31st, 2025, a council and gathering
- 1:21:56stipulating its income since all three date ranges.
- 1:22:00I put it into one because all three counts were considered.
- 1:22:03And that's where the $14,350.09 comes in.
- 1:22:07That's correct. That's fine.
- 1:22:08And so you agree with all of them in both files?
- 1:22:11All right. And this 1639 file that relates
- 1:22:17specifically to Docket 18-367 DM you had children that you were
- 1:22:25ordered to pay for through the front of the court and the
- 1:22:30family court judge and you felt right with the pay.
- 1:22:33Is that a yes? All right.
- 1:22:36We have of the people on either for any additional questions.
- 1:22:40I kind of put them together to don't usually do.
- 1:22:43It's really the same ventral basis, just different files and
- 1:22:47children and numbers. No, Your honor, people are set.
- 1:22:51Defense. Is also satisfied.
- 1:22:53All right thank you. Our council where we promises
- 1:22:56threats and induces other than those already placed on the
- 1:22:58record. No yeah, no.
- 1:23:00This court comply report rule yes, sure.
- 1:23:02Yes. Thank.
- 1:23:03You on each file I find defendants, I have to say.
- 1:23:06I didn't even answer you. Did I ask you to plea?
- 1:23:10Yes, OK. Sorry, I got ahead of myself a
- 1:23:13little one. All right.
- 1:23:15I find each plea has been freely, voluntarily, knowingly,
- 1:23:19and understandingly made without under influence, threats,
- 1:23:21coercion, or promises of lenience.
- 1:23:22You also find there's sufficient grounds to accept and as pay in
- 1:23:25each file. Therefore, count 1 in each file
- 1:23:28enter counts 2 and three in each file are hereby dismissed.
- 1:23:33However, just noted for the record, counts 2 and three are
- 1:23:36actually incorporating count 1 because of the nature of the
- 1:23:39offense. If there's any outstanding
- 1:23:41warrants related to either problems or hereby recalled and
- 1:23:44dismissed through a sentencing date.
- 1:23:47June. 20. 6th at 10 AM. Does that meet with your
- 1:23:52schedule council? Yes, sure.
- 1:23:54Yes, sure, all. Right, Sir, You'll have to make
- 1:23:57an appointment with probation. That number is 507-483-6100.
- 1:24:03We're going to give you guys a purple sheet and has that number
- 1:24:06on it. I don't know how long you're
- 1:24:08going to stay here. We'll talk about Bond in a
- 1:24:09minute, but if they don't interview you before you leave,
- 1:24:16you need to call them. If you do not bench or issue, we
- 1:24:19will extradite you and then you'll pay for a whole lot more
- 1:24:23cost. So I do need to meet with
- 1:24:25probation. Now, if I in fact allow him to
- 1:24:28go home, a couple of things are going to happen before you make
- 1:24:33your motion. Let's be very clear on what
- 1:24:35those things are because if they're not going to happen, we
- 1:24:38have work over the jail. He can be available on Zoom so
- 1:24:41he can save the cost of travel and put that towards his
- 1:24:44arrears. He must be employed to be part
- 1:24:46of a work seat program, not commit any crimes.
- 1:24:50No. Alcohol, no drugs, etcetera.
- 1:24:53If those are agreeable I'm willing to entertain by.
- 1:24:55If they're not, he can sit in jail and do dishes.
- 1:24:58Fraud Care. Yes.
- 1:25:01Your Honor, no, that's very acceptable to the defense.
- 1:25:03If they were, if you'd be willing to reduce his bond, he
- 1:25:07doesn't have any money to pay so.
- 1:25:09Like. He stated he is trying.
- 1:25:11He does have the children he needs to support as well as the
- 1:25:14one he has full custody of. So whatever the the court would
- 1:25:17would want, he is, he's fine with complying with it.
- 1:25:20Pay off of the people. What would you like me to know,
- 1:25:22Your honor? The bond has already been set
- 1:25:24down to about 10%. Of the arrears.
- 1:25:26From the 25% that's mandated, mandated by the statute, he
- 1:25:30hasn't paid in some time. So I would object to it being
- 1:25:33reduced to PR bond. Well, let me ask you this.
- 1:25:37How are you expecting him to pay the money if he's incarcerated
- 1:25:40and taking up tax dollars that we all pay for?
- 1:25:42I understand that, your Honor, he wasn't paying when he was
- 1:25:44out. So he's already shown us that
- 1:25:46he's not going to pay. When he's out.
- 1:25:48Well, I have a bigger hammer because he can go to prison.
- 1:25:52So then he doesn't raise his six year old.
- 1:25:55So he's got a lot to lose because I'm not a judge who's
- 1:25:57going to tolerate this, but I'm also not a judge who's going to
- 1:26:00impede him and ensure that he goes to prison by not paying, by
- 1:26:04having the people pay for his, you know, 5 minutes of fun and
- 1:26:07choosing not to wear a condom. What do you?
- 1:26:10Think about that, Sir. How many?
- 1:26:13Kids, do you have 3? This file reflects three
- 1:26:17children between the two files, the 2.
- 1:26:19Files is 1 age and I have them cousins the third one.
- 1:26:22Age. Do you see these children?
- 1:26:26I did until. I'm.
- 1:26:29Working on it. No, you explained it to me.
- 1:26:32What does working on it mean and what does I did mean so?
- 1:26:35I didn't want to keep getting in trouble with the first two
- 1:26:39mothers so I packed off and focused on my 6 year old.
- 1:26:44OK. What does that mean?
- 1:26:45Keep getting in trouble? Is there some criminal history
- 1:26:48you want to tell me about or what?
- 1:26:49No. Well, with.
- 1:26:52My ex-wife, the second mother of my child.
- 1:26:56It was too much you. Didn't have a good relationship
- 1:27:01we didn't get. Along OK.
- 1:27:03So I understand that, but then when was the last time you saw
- 1:27:07the child? It's been a few years ever since
- 1:27:11actually my she didn't like my. 6 year old.
- 1:27:14Being born so she. Basically.
- 1:27:16Just made it in almost impossible.
- 1:27:19Well, no. You made it impossible.
- 1:27:21I want to get this really, really clear because these cases
- 1:27:24I don't like. You should not be in front of
- 1:27:26me. You chose to have a child.
- 1:27:29That's right. The Constitution says that you
- 1:27:32have an absolute right, if you're a fit parent, to raise
- 1:27:34your child. So you have a right to go to
- 1:27:37court, ask a judge for help and say your mom's not willing to
- 1:27:40see my child. And in.
- 1:27:42Fact, if it gets so bad you might get custody of these
- 1:27:44children because she has an absolute obligation.
- 1:27:47You both have an absolute obligation to facilitate a
- 1:27:50positive relationship between the child and the other parent.
- 1:27:53Yes ma'am. So it's on you that you have not
- 1:27:56seen your children and decided to not, hey, child support is
- 1:28:02the right of a child and an obligation of the parent.
- 1:28:07I'm not smart enough to come up with that language.
- 1:28:09You know what? That is tried and true, written
- 1:28:13by the Supreme Court over and over and over again in thousands
- 1:28:17of cases. And it also is based in
- 1:28:19constitution. So the only one that sat on
- 1:28:22their rights is you. Those children have a right to
- 1:28:25the mom and the dad, but you just can't have your 5 minutes
- 1:28:29of fun and then ignore the children because us taxpayers
- 1:28:33pay. Somebody's been paying for those
- 1:28:34kids and now we're paying more because you're housed in our
- 1:28:38jail. We don't want to pay for your
- 1:28:41fund. So what is it going to be?
- 1:28:42You're going to be a dad or, or is she going to meet somebody
- 1:28:44and someone else is going to raise your child because
- 1:28:47parental termination is alive and well.
- 1:28:49You know, see your child for two years.
- 1:28:50You don't pay for your child for two years.
- 1:28:52And the law says mom can come in and say he doesn't care.
- 1:28:56I'm marrying someone else, let him adopt.
- 1:28:58Is that what you want? Well, then prove it to me, Sir.
- 1:29:02I deal in evidence and prove it to your child.
- 1:29:04You have a lot to make up for. To both children.
- 1:29:06When did you see the other child?
- 1:29:08It's been a long. Time.
- 1:29:10What's a long time 10? Years do you?
- 1:29:12Ever add? I do now here.
- 1:29:16What does I do now mean well? He wasn't around when I was a
- 1:29:18child. I mean, OK, I grew up in.
- 1:29:20And bought a home. OK.
- 1:29:21So he wasn't around when you were a child.
- 1:29:24Did you see this history repeating itself?
- 1:29:26Now? You were doing that to your
- 1:29:28children. So you know how these children
- 1:29:31feel and you don't care? No, I.
- 1:29:32Do care. How you?
- 1:29:34Abandon them. Well, that's.
- 1:29:35Why I turned? Myself in so I could take care
- 1:29:37of this and get get back to them.
- 1:29:39Better late than never, Sir. Who is taking care of the six
- 1:29:43year old that you have in Tennessee?
- 1:29:44My. Father.
- 1:29:45And where is the mother of that child?
- 1:29:47She's. Here in Lansing.
- 1:29:49Does she see the child? No.
- 1:29:51She doesn't want to. You have.
- 1:29:52A lot of different choices that you need to make in your life.
- 1:29:54Choose better women, choose your children over your fun and
- 1:29:59everything else you're doing. And you have to work, Sir.
- 1:30:02So tell me about your work. How are we going to get you to
- 1:30:05work? Well, I'm I'm very.
- 1:30:08Good at what I do. I'm a like I.
- 1:30:09Said I'm a Carpenter, maintenance man, so.
- 1:30:12The. Reason why I turned myself in is
- 1:30:14because I was. Going to get a.
- 1:30:16Job. I got employed.
- 1:30:18Twice. But the background checks didn't
- 1:30:20check out because of the filling background.
- 1:30:23So you're with. Good paying jobs.
- 1:30:25OK. Maybe that was the wake up call
- 1:30:29you need, but I'm also certain the prison can use a good
- 1:30:33Carpenter. So you decide to not pay and
- 1:30:37your children will find you in the list of MDOC.
- 1:30:41Yeah, I. Don't want that?
- 1:30:42Let's fix this problem Sir. Have you talked to the friend of
- 1:30:55the court about how much you're supposed to be paying?
- 1:30:59No. I tried to get a hold of them.
- 1:31:00Before I turn. Myself in but I never got a.
- 1:31:02Return call, but I don't. Think you tried very hard
- 1:31:05because they're accessible? You have a cell phone.
- 1:31:09Yes. I think.
- 1:31:11Did you leave them a number? You know who your case worker
- 1:31:13is. I forgot her name.
- 1:31:16Well, here's how it goes, Sir. You have to pay child support
- 1:31:19plus an additional amount every month or bi weekly.
- 1:31:23However, they've ordered you to pay the rate of child support
- 1:31:27plus an amount for the arrearage, and they set that now
- 1:31:32if there's been a change of circumstance.
- 1:31:34They. Have you at too high of a wage
- 1:31:36or too low or whatever? They can adjust that, but they
- 1:31:39will only adjust it back to the date you request.
- 1:31:44So if whatever they're collecting is too much, you need
- 1:31:47to let them know because they will not retroactively credit
- 1:31:51you. They do not allow you to sit on
- 1:31:54your hands, and then it becomes their problems.
- 1:31:56If you want to invoke your rights to see your children or
- 1:32:00to have your child support go up or down and accurately be
- 1:32:04reflected, then you have to take action.
- 1:32:12All right, Sir, how are you going to get back to Tennessee?
- 1:32:18That's. My father.
- 1:32:20Your dad's going to help you. To get back to you, yeah.
- 1:32:25All right, Sir, I'm giving you a $30,000 PR bond.
- 1:32:32I want you working. You'll report the pretrial
- 1:32:36services as directed as often as directed by telephone, since you
- 1:32:41can't do it in in person. You're going to be in Tennessee.
- 1:32:45You shall not use any illegal drugs, alcohol, marijuana, if
- 1:32:53you have any. You will show a prescription to
- 1:32:55pretrial services. Do you have a history of drug
- 1:32:59abuse? Yes.
- 1:33:00Ma'am. And how recent is that?
- 1:33:04I'll be two years clean and sober in July.
- 1:33:06Mary. So you'll Pvt. and or drug test
- 1:33:10as requested by pretrial services, law enforcement, any
- 1:33:13court officer, your father or mother of any of your children.
- 1:33:22Repeat that one last. One here, yeah.
- 1:33:24He will Pvt. and or drug test as requested by pretrial services,
- 1:33:29law enforcement, any court officer, your father or the
- 1:33:33mother of any of your children so we can make sure your plan is
- 1:33:37over during your parenting time. If it's positive, we'll do a
- 1:33:41secondary test and we'll see if it's a false positive or a
- 1:33:45positive positive and then we'll take whatever action we need.
- 1:33:48You will not only have your possession under your control,
- 1:33:51any weapon, gun, ammunition or tissue of a weapon will not be
- 1:33:54in the presence of any third party who has those.
- 1:33:56Do you have any weapons in the home?
- 1:33:57Guns. Good.
- 1:34:00You will not be in the presence of any known gang members or any
- 1:34:03known felons. You'll not wear any gang colors,
- 1:34:05Insignia or gang tattoos. You will maintain your current
- 1:34:09residence and any average change will be reported to Pretrial
- 1:34:12services of Court and your council within 24 hours.
- 1:34:15You will appear before this court on Zoom at 10 AM.
- 1:34:21June 26th, 2026 now, and that's at 10 AM.
- 1:34:25If you want to be next to your attorney, you'll have to come
- 1:34:29all the way back to Michigan. But I'd rather see those funds
- 1:34:31pay your child support. But it is your right to stand
- 1:34:33next to her. How we do it on Zoom is that.
- 1:34:37I would put you in a confidential.
- 1:34:38Breakout room and you can talk to her that way.
- 1:34:41If that's OK with you, we'll proceed that way.
- 1:34:43Otherwise, I need your body physically here in front of me
- 1:34:45like it is today. What is your preference?
- 1:34:47No, that's OK. Zoom, zoom.
- 1:34:49Yes, very. Good.
- 1:34:52You shall be employed and shall not be, and if you're not
- 1:34:57employed, you shall be part of a work secret program and you will
- 1:35:01not give any employer any cause to terminate you.
- 1:35:04You'll advise the front of the court and Circuit Court and
- 1:35:07pretrial services of all employment.
- 1:35:09How much time do you need to get gainfully employed?
- 1:35:12A. Month A.
- 1:35:13Month How are you going to pay your bills during that month
- 1:35:17within a. Month right, he's so.
- 1:35:20He I guess the not going to. Get back to Tennessee.
- 1:35:23It would be less than that. Well, let's just say it will be
- 1:35:27less than that. I don't care if you work at Taco
- 1:35:28Bell or Burger King or Aldi's or whatever, you're going to work
- 1:35:34until you get some other employment.
- 1:35:36And I don't want to hear that you're being paid under the
- 1:35:39table because that is another felony state in federal.
- 1:35:53All right, so you'll be employed within 30 days of this order.
- 1:35:55Yes ma'am, you also will follow. All.
- 1:36:02Family court orders in Michigan and Tennessee, Anything I fail
- 1:36:08to add on half the people? No, you're not.
- 1:36:10No, I've been clear. Yes.
- 1:36:13Ma'am. Any questions?
- 1:36:16Hold the key to the jail or prison.
- 1:36:18Sir, we pay. Are you OK?
- 1:36:25That's up to you. That's what kind of day do.
- 1:36:28You want. To be all right.
- 1:36:34Friends. So I agree with pretty much
- 1:36:38everything that Judge Aqualina had to say there.
- 1:36:42But I disagree with one thing and I'm going to get on my
- 1:36:45soapbox about something else because I always do in these
- 1:36:47cases. The one thing she said I don't
- 1:36:49agree with when she said the front of the court is
- 1:36:51accessible. Now, for those of you who aren't
- 1:36:54familiar with how Michigan works, FOC, the front of the
- 1:36:57court is the arm that handles child support matters and family
- 1:37:03court kind of matters, Visitation, parental rights,
- 1:37:06stuff like that. They're the most inaccessible
- 1:37:10organization pretty much on this planet.
- 1:37:13Think of the worst government organization you've ever dealt
- 1:37:16with. Multiply that by 10 and that is
- 1:37:17the front of the court. I speak this through personal
- 1:37:20experience. My first wife and I lived in
- 1:37:22Michigan. When we separated, our children
- 1:37:25went with her for physical custody.
- 1:37:27We both had legal custody, but that meant I was paying child
- 1:37:30support. And good luck getting any
- 1:37:33response whatsoever out of friend of the court.
- 1:37:36You can go there, sit in their office all day long and they
- 1:37:41will ignore you. I actually had to go through
- 1:37:45legal angles to finally get them to hear me at one point.
- 1:37:48So I don't want to hear that part from judge.
- 1:37:51But I agree with all of the dressing down that she gave that
- 1:37:53guy. The other thing that I will get
- 1:37:55on my soapbox for and I always do with these cases, I get it
- 1:37:59with the non custodial parent and the whole you need to pay
- 1:38:02your child support 100% on board and agree.
- 1:38:06But I will say again, the system needs to be fixed.
- 1:38:09The custodial parent needs to be able to account for how that
- 1:38:13money is being spent and they're not required to.
- 1:38:17So the judges can get on the high horse about how the non
- 1:38:22custodial parent needs to support the child.
- 1:38:24And I 100% agree. But they need to be equally
- 1:38:28holding responsible the custodial parent to make sure
- 1:38:30that that money is funneled through to the child's needs.
- 1:38:34And so often it is not, and I find that to be a pathetic.
- 1:38:39Hole in the. System that nobody does anything
- 1:38:42about, nobody bats an eye to what's going on with that money
- 1:38:47once the state hands it over to mom or dad or whoever has
- 1:38:50custody. And that is just plain wrong.
- 1:38:54All right, off high horse. Thank you for listening.
- 1:38:57Let's go to Judge. Yeah, let's go to Judge Desanto.
- 1:39:03Say good morning to her. Yeah, eligible for District
- 1:39:05Court treatment court because it's felony.
- 1:39:09Though I. Understand now, Mr. Breslahan
- 1:39:11asked. That you take.
- 1:39:12The plea and. Send it out to the sentence.
- 1:39:15And that's why I just. Wanted to alert you so I
- 1:39:16wouldn't surprise you. No, I.
- 1:39:17Do appreciate that, but the language should probably be
- 1:39:20changed to just be Circuit Court treatment court, not district or
- 1:39:23Circuit Court and that's. Perfect, although they already
- 1:39:27accepted him and you're going the county prosecutor accepted
- 1:39:30that court as the option. Wait, what?
- 1:39:32He. He's already been.
- 1:39:33Accepted into the Dearborn. Treatment court and the county
- 1:39:36prosecutor. Said that's good.
- 1:39:38So I don't know, change whatever you want.
- 1:39:40No, no, no, I'm not changing it because that's not my agreement.
- 1:39:43We'll. We'll for a second, OK.
- 1:39:45Well, I didn't want to you with the plea tomorrow.
- 1:39:48No, no. I appreciate that.
- 1:39:50And I still am unfair as to why district courts accept Circuit
- 1:39:55Court. Please, when they just go right
- 1:39:57down there anyway. But in any event.
- 1:40:02Yeah, right. Yeah.
- 1:40:04Next week, we'll bring you some more disgusting Lincoln Park
- 1:40:06cases. Well, but the, but The thing is,
- 1:40:09is that, well, there's a few things.
- 1:40:11One, if he's been accepted into the 19th District Court
- 1:40:15treatment court, it's my understanding that's just, I
- 1:40:19mean, it's District Court, so it would be a misdemeanor.
- 1:40:22Do they? Know that he's pleading to a
- 1:40:23felony. Yes they do.
- 1:40:25And they? Can accept.
- 1:40:27That's. Interesting.
- 1:40:28I just. I did one also in the Westland
- 1:40:30court a few years ago and they did the same thing.
- 1:40:33This is this is not frequent. They usually it's you just write
- 1:40:37District Court misdemeanors, but this president had accepted this
- 1:40:40one and he said it's fine and I'll address those concerns
- 1:40:44before tomorrow. I.
- 1:40:45Understand that it's fine with him.
- 1:40:48My. Confusion is that a District
- 1:40:50Court treatment court is accepting a felony.
- 1:40:53I understand I it's beyond my bandwidth.
- 1:40:56I don't understand right? So I'm just, you may want to
- 1:41:00just confirm that they understand that it's a felony
- 1:41:04and it's not being reduced to a second for a misdemeanor before
- 1:41:08everyone's moving forward. And then?
- 1:41:10Also, if that's not the case, then the District Court has to
- 1:41:14be the District Court provision on here has to.
- 1:41:17Be, but I don't mind crossing it out judge that'll that'll be
- 1:41:21sorted out by somebody paid much more than I am, so, well, no.
- 1:41:24No, no, no. It has to be sorted out before
- 1:41:26the police. No, we'll do.
- 1:41:27That tomorrow I'm going to let Mr. President.
- 1:41:29Handle when I. Leave your.
- 1:41:30Day If he's fine with that because they've already accepted
- 1:41:33him, Judge, I think there might be something else he's in.
- 1:41:36He's an employee of the city Dearborn.
- 1:41:37They put him in the. Employee Assistance program.
- 1:41:39So the court may have accepted them irrespectiveable, but the
- 1:41:42plea gives a notify Mr. President.
- 1:41:44Well, right, but. Just for the fidelity of their
- 1:41:46program, they need to make sure that they're.
- 1:41:49I agree, other people are. May I?
- 1:41:51Approach that because he dropped something here on the floor,
- 1:41:53this might be important. OK.
- 1:41:55I just didn't want. You to get surprised.
- 1:41:57Tomorrow morning so. I.
- 1:41:59Appreciate that, but. You should check with 19
- 1:42:01District Court to make sure they realize that that's a felony and
- 1:42:05then I guess go from there. I.
- 1:42:08Sure will there are. OK, thank.
- 1:42:09You. OK, thank you.
- 1:42:11OK, So Alicia, whenever we need a break, you just go ahead and
- 1:42:15wave the flag or morning. I'm.
- 1:42:21In I'm in Blues and whites too. OK, I know trying anyway.
- 1:42:27OK. So are you good with doing the
- 1:42:30zoom with this breakout rooms with the attorneys and
- 1:42:32everything, Alicia? OK.
- 1:42:35OK. So then you just let me know, do
- 1:42:37you have the docket there deed you?
- 1:42:40Didn't get one, no. Sir, I do not I.
- 1:42:45Will get you one OK. Mr. Serrano's not in.
- 1:42:48Here did you need that? I do please.
- 1:42:55But that's OK there. I'll I think the two I
- 1:42:58understand this one's not spaced out.
- 1:43:00Is that Yeah, I know. That's what I like.
- 1:43:01Yeah, OK, not so self. This is not spaced out.
- 1:43:04How many pages is this? Is this 2 copies?
- 1:43:06Nope. That's couple.
- 1:43:10We have a six pages today. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:43:13OK. Thank.
- 1:43:15You, Mr. Andy, this mine is. Spaced out on that game.
- 1:43:18Oh, OK, sorry. OK, so this is double spaced the
- 1:43:21this is probably the most this off.
- 1:43:23OK, that's fine. That's less crazy because.
- 1:43:27Otherwise. It's a single space, but in any
- 1:43:30event, that's still a lot of cases today.
- 1:43:32OK, OK, Mr. Serrano. You.
- 1:43:37Already have Saint Clair county checked in.
- 1:43:39Saint Clair County jail checked in, yes, but he has not spoken
- 1:43:43with people yet. OK, when this is in his name,
- 1:43:47this house, Sean. OK.
- 1:43:51And the other gentleman has not solved this attorney yet.
- 1:43:55And who is the one Wayne County jail he is?
- 1:43:57Justin Carlton. OK, All right, Which I.
- 1:44:00Believe. I think Mr. Westmoreland has Mr.
- 1:44:02Schenke's cases today, Bobby, is that right?
- 1:44:06Not. All of them judged OK.
- 1:44:08Some of them were assigned to other people.
- 1:44:10OK. Are you looking for who?
- 1:44:14Sean House. That's Mr. Dubois.
- 1:44:17Yes. Carlton, Who has Mr. Carlton I.
- 1:44:21Have Mr. Shrine, Your Honor, but I understand you need being here
- 1:44:23for the other cases. I.
- 1:44:25Do. But I wasn't.
- 1:44:26I didn't realize that you were on your way in to interview Mr.
- 1:44:29Carlton. Whichever the court pieces OK.
- 1:44:32Well, we'll just. Handle.
- 1:44:34We'll handle Mr. Heisler first, who has Mr. Selma.
- 1:44:38You guys. Mr. Selma, I do.
- 1:44:39You do. OK, We'll enter those two first.
- 1:44:41OK. All right.
- 1:44:43All right, Council, we're going on the record, so OK.
- 1:44:45OK, so let's. Go on the record in the matter
- 1:44:48of the of the Billy Heisler 24240.
- 1:44:52Your Honor, good morning. Richard T Serrano, PP3828,
- 1:44:56Today, your Honor, right up here.
- 1:44:56Will be a couple of fun. Times first, right?
- 1:44:59Please be the date, time. Separation of calls matter, Sir.
- 1:45:01Please stay trained. For the record, Billy Heisler
- 1:45:04all. Right, good morning and thank
- 1:45:05you for oh, thank you, thank you for addressing appropriately for
- 1:45:08court and council today scheduled for show cause in this
- 1:45:12matter your client failed to pay his fines and costs in the
- 1:45:16amount of $2869.51 that's. Correct, Your Honor.
- 1:45:21And we've talked about that. He has $200 to pay toward that
- 1:45:24balance. In addition, he said a couple
- 1:45:27weeks ago, he said he tried to make $150.00 payment, but
- 1:45:32inadvertently he sent it to the 25th District Court.
- 1:45:35They refunded the money. So he's here, but he's a make
- 1:45:39sure he makes the $50 payments in the future timely and to the
- 1:45:42right court. But he.
- 1:45:43Does have two? 100 to pay today, is that
- 1:45:45correct? Sir, that's correct.
- 1:45:46All right. Sir.
- 1:45:47Well, let's see, you've been Why have you failed to make payments
- 1:45:51at all in the last year and a half?
- 1:45:53That's. Not true at all.
- 1:45:54Here on Earth, the only. Time I've failed to make
- 1:45:56payments is the last three months I believe OK.
- 1:45:58So. I was garnished.
- 1:46:01On my paychecks. So I have been struggling
- 1:46:03completely and I tried to make the three months up with $150.00
- 1:46:09but like my lawyer said, I accidentally sent it to Lincoln
- 1:46:12Park. I got that situated and.
- 1:46:14Then now I. Have $200 to pay, close that.
- 1:46:19I was paying the 50. Dollars a month.
- 1:46:21And then some months I wasn't able to.
- 1:46:23Natalie would call me and then I would pay the. $100.
- 1:46:28For the two months. OK.
- 1:46:30So let me clarify a couple things, OK?
- 1:46:32First, if you're not able to make a payment, Sir, don't rely
- 1:46:35on somebody here at the court to contact you.
- 1:46:38You should take the initiative to contact the court by e-mail
- 1:46:42as to whether or not you're to, if you're able to make your
- 1:46:46payment. If you're unable to make your
- 1:46:47payment and then indicate that you're intending to make that up
- 1:46:51the next week. There's no talking in court.
- 1:46:52Please you. Said you're on.
- 1:46:55So you're paying 200 today, that's.
- 1:46:57Correct. And how?
- 1:46:58Much per month 50. Dollars.
- 1:46:59And what date of the month do you pay your $50?
- 1:47:02I don't. Have a set date.
- 1:47:03To pay it, I'm going to pay 30 days from the last time I paid.
- 1:47:06OK, so. We're going to pick a set date.
- 1:47:08So that might be a little bit easier to, to manage.
- 1:47:11And then that way it just, you just know when it is.
- 1:47:14You don't have to worry about, oh, maybe I can do it this day,
- 1:47:16maybe I can do it that day. And then if you can't make it to
- 1:47:18that payment on that date that you've selected, e-mail into the
- 1:47:22court letting us know I'm unable to make my payment today.
- 1:47:26I'm going to double up next week or next month.
- 1:47:29OK. OK.
- 1:47:31All right. And So what date of the month
- 1:47:33would you like to select Sir? Middle of the month, sometime,
- 1:47:36maybe the 12th, let's say the 12th, OK.
- 1:47:39So beginning June 12th. That.
- 1:47:41Sounds good, OK. OK, you can stop at the window,
- 1:47:44Sir. And then you already have the
- 1:47:45information about paying online because?
- 1:47:48You're paying. Online, you paid the wrong one.
- 1:47:49OK. All right.
- 1:47:50Thank you. Have a good day.
- 1:47:52OK. And we're on the record in the
- 1:47:54matter of the city of Wyandotte versus Michael Selma 26601.
- 1:47:58Your. Article Richard P Serrano, P28
- 1:48:01appearing on behalf with my client Chris.
- 1:48:03Am I right? Your honor of this is the date
- 1:48:05time set for his pretrial Sir. Please state your name loudly
- 1:48:08for the record, Michael. So OK.
- 1:48:10And today is the date scheduled for the pretrial Council, as
- 1:48:14you've indicated, and you've got an opportunity to review this
- 1:48:19matter with the prosecuting attorney.
- 1:48:20Yes, I have, Your Honor. In fact, I arraigned Mr. Selma.
- 1:48:23He's posted a bond, as the court can see.
- 1:48:26Yes, we've resolved the matter, Your Honor.
- 1:48:27My client will plead as charged. He's going to do the do the
- 1:48:35controlled substance charge. He'll be guilty as charged.
- 1:48:38We're asking that to be taken. So it's Section 155.001.
- 1:48:42I've explained to my client what that means.
- 1:48:44He understands it. In fact, he's in fact accepted
- 1:48:47by the court. I think he qualifies for that
- 1:48:49ordinance section. The other charter.
- 1:48:52Possession of paraphernalia would be dismissed on the
- 1:48:54prosecutor's motion. He's ready to sign his vice of
- 1:48:56rights, your honor. He's ready for the court's
- 1:48:57examination. OK.
- 1:48:59And so, Sir, I'm going to have you please raise your right
- 1:49:02hand, do solemnly swear, or from the testimony you're about to
- 1:49:05give in this matter, to be the truth, the whole truth, and
- 1:49:06nothing but the truth. Yes, Sir.
- 1:49:08OK. And you heard.
- 1:49:12The plea that was placed on the record, correct?
- 1:49:14Yes, Sir. Honor.
- 1:49:15And as to the charge of possession of controlled
- 1:49:19substance, how do you plea? You've gone over your advice of
- 1:49:23rights with your attorney, correct?
- 1:49:24Yes, your. Honor and you.
- 1:49:25Understand all of those rights? Yes, Your Honor, you also
- 1:49:27understand that by entering into a plea, you'll be waiving some
- 1:49:30of those rights. Yes, your.
- 1:49:31Honor you. Understand as well the possible
- 1:49:33penalty as a result of your plea, whether this court, any
- 1:49:36other court, or administrative agency.
- 1:49:38Yes, Your Honor. Knowing all of that, do you want
- 1:49:39to continue with your plea? Yes, Your Honor, everybody can
- 1:49:42promise you anything, threaten you or coerce you in any way for
- 1:49:45you to enter into a plea. Any.
- 1:49:47Immigration issues. All right.
- 1:49:49Council, if you can, please avoid you, your client.
- 1:49:52Thelma Honor about May 8th 2026 approximately 1:30 PM were you
- 1:49:57in the city of wind up yes you would motor vehicle, weren't
- 1:50:00you? Yes and you had contact with the
- 1:50:02police to stop you Yes. And finally police officers
- 1:50:05investigating further and and searching the vehicle and
- 1:50:08yourself, they found some drugs turned out to be crack cocaine.
- 1:50:12You agree with that? Yes.
- 1:50:14You were the only person in the car, weren't you?
- 1:50:16Yes. So this year was correct.
- 1:50:17Correct. Satisfying the court is also and
- 1:50:21you. Understand what the 155.001
- 1:50:23status is, Correct, Sir, Correct.
- 1:50:26OK, The court does find the plea is knowing, volunteering and
- 1:50:28factually accurate. The court will accept your plea
- 1:50:312, Count 1, dismiss count 2 for the plea agreement.
- 1:50:34And Sir, if you're going to test right now what's in your system?
- 1:50:37Just. Bear in mind on it and no I do
- 1:50:38not have a prescription on it. When's the last?
- 1:50:41Time you used it. It was about a week ago, Sir.
- 1:50:45You were arranged. Excuse me?
- 1:50:46You were arraigned 12 days ago, so that was more than a week
- 1:50:49ago. And this court instructed you,
- 1:50:50Sir, not to possess or consume any alcohol or drugs that are
- 1:50:53not prescribed. I.
- 1:50:55Meant to say more than 1212 days ago I wasn't being accurate with
- 1:50:59the days. OK.
- 1:51:00I just. Met a week ago, as in before the
- 1:51:02convention. That's what I meant.
- 1:51:05OK. So just for clarification Sir,
- 1:51:08since. You've been.
- 1:51:08Released after your arrest. Have you used any marijuana?
- 1:51:13No. You're not OK.
- 1:51:14Very good. The court's going to order bond
- 1:51:16and conditions are continued and you are currently testing,
- 1:51:19correct, Sir. OK.
- 1:51:21Very good. And so you're going to go over
- 1:51:23to probation and you will get all of your next steps.
- 1:51:25OK. Thank you.
- 1:51:26Thank you. Have a good day.
- 1:51:27Thank you. Thank you.
- 1:51:29Your Honor, thank. You we are on the road.
- 1:51:31We're three now of TCF live on this fine, fine Wednesday.
- 1:51:35Good to have you all here. Seriously good to have you all
- 1:51:39here. This is like the best job in the
- 1:51:42world is being here with you guys.
- 1:51:44So thank you so much. Let's go back to Judge Aquilina.
- 1:51:49New contestant there. All right, this is Docket
- 1:51:5925369FH23967FH23969 FH and 256131 FH people in the state of
- 1:52:15Michigan versus James Clark. Legion.
- 1:52:21Yes. OK, Council, your appearance for
- 1:52:24the record. Thank you.
- 1:52:24Honor Randall Berman on behalf of the people, Thank Your Honor
- 1:52:27Michael Anderson on behalf of Mr. Legans.
- 1:52:29Who does appear personally to my right and which?
- 1:52:32Trials are you on? I am on the 1st 2 in your honor,
- 1:52:37so 23. 6967 yeah 23969 yes. And then attorney to hear you
- 1:52:46hear any other two? Yes.
- 1:52:47You are all right. Thank you.
- 1:52:49Appreciate that. OK, Sir, please raise your right
- 1:52:53hand. Do you swear or affirm the
- 1:52:55testimony you're about to provide be the truth, full
- 1:52:58truth, and nothing but the truth underpones your perjury.
- 1:53:00Thank you. Put your hand down.
- 1:53:02Taking any medication yesterday or today, is there medication
- 1:53:07you're supposed to be on the turn on and not being on that
- 1:53:11medication, does that interfere with your ability to understand
- 1:53:14your attorneys or this court? And are you feeling OK today,
- 1:53:18Sir? Yes, Sir.
- 1:53:20All right. And any sign of fever, COVID or
- 1:53:22other illness. No.
- 1:53:24Ma'am, have you had enough time to talk to both of your Tories
- 1:53:27in regard to sentencing? Yes, I have.
- 1:53:29Have you? Reviewed the pre sentence
- 1:53:31investigation report with them. All right, thank you and
- 1:53:35counsel. I believe he's oriented to date,
- 1:53:37time and place. It does understand what's
- 1:53:39occurring despite they taking his regular medicine along with
- 1:53:42not having celebrated, is that correct?
- 1:53:44I do your honor based on the most conversation, yes.
- 1:53:47Your Honor. All right.
- 1:53:48Thank you very much on behalf of the people.
- 1:53:50Are there any corrections, additions, solutions?
- 1:53:53Yes. Your Honor.
- 1:53:56I'm just pretty as it pertains to the 967 file that we're here
- 1:53:59for sentencing on the attorneys, Mike Anderson, not Luke
- 1:54:01Goodrich, he's appointed. I'm sorry, he's retained, not
- 1:54:05appointed. Thank you those.
- 1:54:09Are. All the factual corrections that
- 1:54:11I've had. So I'm changing that on the
- 1:54:14basic information sheet. I've changed on the cover page
- 1:54:17and let me see this other evaluation plan.
- 1:54:20Yes, in the first. Line.
- 1:54:27So then, Mr. Goodrich, are you here on the files that will be
- 1:54:33dismissed? That.
- 1:54:34Is correct your. Honor I, Mr. Anderson, will be
- 1:54:36making. All.
- 1:54:37On behalf of Mr. Lee Gates today, all right.
- 1:54:40Cheryl, is there any? I don't want to waste your time.
- 1:54:43You're certainly welcome to stand where you are, but is
- 1:54:46there any reason beyond this that you need to be here?
- 1:54:50I don't. Believe so, Your Honor, but.
- 1:54:52Yeah, I. Appreciate you being here.
- 1:54:55Any. Objection to Mr. Goodrich
- 1:54:57carrying on to the rest of his cases.
- 1:55:00No, you're not all right. Thank you very much for your
- 1:55:03service, Sir. All right, Sir.
- 1:55:07And. Councillor, did you have any
- 1:55:08additional? I do, your honor, just an
- 1:55:11information report under highest grade completed it says unknown
- 1:55:17that it's 7th grade and then under religion it says unknown
- 1:55:23that would be Baptist and. What page?
- 1:55:32Is that you're on right below highest grade completed on the
- 1:55:35basic information. On page two of the Basic
- 1:55:46information report under GL Credit, it says 247.
- 1:55:51Based on the calculation that's later in the report, they have
- 1:55:57the end date. Of.
- 1:55:59Credit being May 19th instead of May 20th, so I believe it should
- 1:56:02be 248 instead of 247. Correct.
- 1:56:06John. OK.
- 1:56:07And. Then take another basic
- 1:56:10information sheet. OK.
- 1:56:17And I also changed the account line.
- 1:56:21Thank you your Honor. And then on page 15 of the pre
- 1:56:27sentence investigation under marriage, yes, it has his son as
- 1:56:39deceased that is incorrect he's. Live.
- 1:56:43In the well and 27 years old good.
- 1:56:46To hear that. OK.
- 1:56:48And then again, under education, oh, he does say something great.
- 1:56:53OK. Yes, great.
- 1:56:55And then under employment on the exquisite soul food notes him as
- 1:57:01a cook. He was also a co-owner that
- 1:57:05establishment. OK.
- 1:57:08And then he's been out of work since 2000 and. 18 yes, that's
- 1:57:11correct Sir, if. You don't feel well.
- 1:57:13You can certainly sit down. I've never found the city yet.
- 1:57:18All right, Is the chair still? Is the chair still there?
- 1:57:21I put. It took it away if I can bring
- 1:57:23it. Back.
- 1:57:23Do you want it? We don't want you to fall down,
- 1:57:27Sir. Thank you.
- 1:57:34Is all I had in terms of the basic information.
- 1:57:39Judge. I had one other.
- 1:57:40Factual. Correction, I'm sorry, on the
- 1:57:43cover page under the plea agreement, I just noticed this.
- 1:57:45It says amended plea the defendant plead guilty to.
- 1:57:48Count. 1. I think.
- 1:57:50We best. Note that that the defendant
- 1:57:52plead guilty. To.
- 1:57:54Original count 3, subsequently count 1 entered.
- 1:57:59I think it's the best way as I have before and I will explain
- 1:58:03that and you're on. I have no objections to that
- 1:58:07change. OK, OK Sir, you pled guilty to
- 1:58:15Royal Ultimate use count 1 controlled substance celebrity
- 1:58:18manufacturer official substance less than 50 grams with the
- 1:58:21Ritual 4 that is comfortable back to life.
- 1:58:24Do you recall that? OK.
- 1:58:27Thank you very much. And do we have any issues with
- 1:58:32the guidelines? Yes.
- 1:58:33Your Honor, Mr. Henderson correctly indicates that OB 19
- 1:58:36should be scored at 0, not ten points.
- 1:58:39OB 19 is 0. Correct.
- 1:58:41That makes the total. OB point value. 15.
- 1:58:46Change has been made. And a level 2 change to.
- 1:58:50Remain I'm changing the basic information sheet Council.
- 1:58:52Are there any additional corrections?
- 1:58:54The. Guideline right thing goes to 10
- 1:58:56to 46 dot. 10 to 46 and and we have defended any additional
- 1:59:04questions. We just change the base
- 1:59:07confirmation sheet also on. Page 2 the.
- 1:59:11Recommendations. I'm also changing that
- 1:59:17recommendation there to assess the 247, changing it to the 248
- 1:59:22days. All right then I think
- 1:59:26everything looks like it's. I'm.
- 1:59:32Sorry you're out of I just caught this under page one of
- 1:59:36the pre census investigation and Mr. Berman can certainly double
- 1:59:40check on this, but my guess is where it says Docket 23-00369
- 1:59:51FH. Given that the events date is
- 1:59:55July 18th of 2024, I believe it's Docket 240. 0. 369 FH I'm.
- 2:00:02Sorry, I'm not saying what you're.
- 2:00:04Are you looking at the cover page or?
- 2:00:06It it is under additional information, Your Honor, can I
- 2:00:10briefly approach? Yes.
- 2:00:11Great, this is. There's so many pages to this, I
- 2:00:14want to make sure you can. Write all.
- 2:00:17Under additional information, OK, and then?
- 2:00:21Docket it says 23. I believe it should be 24.
- 2:00:24I believe it is. Is.
- 2:00:28It 23369 FH or a different one? That's not what I have, 20. 5369
- 2:00:37FH. So it's the 23 should be changed
- 2:00:41to 25, is that what you're saying?
- 2:00:44Yes, yes, OK, got that. OK, great.
- 2:00:50And then could somebody before we, I'm sorry.
- 2:00:53Where are you looking? Because my, well, I'm looking
- 2:00:55says 20. 5.6. 9 FH going to show.
- 2:00:58Them where it's under additional, so we don't usually
- 2:01:01make it's under additional information on page one, it's
- 2:01:05the second paragraph from the bottom.
- 2:01:07Thank you. Yeah.
- 2:01:09That was a good catch all right. I also see on the color page.
- 2:01:17That he. Has two civil infractions and it
- 2:01:22was there's a no no pick up because there's civil problem in
- 2:01:25the range is too far, but there's two active warrants.
- 2:01:31Those. Mid table hero.
- 2:01:32No, Your Honor, I became aware of them when I received this.
- 2:01:36I did double check the register of actions.
- 2:01:39There are traffic infractions, right?
- 2:01:41I figured 2023, so probably just owes a fine plus like costs and
- 2:01:46all that. Yes.
- 2:01:47OK, All right. I'm going to have other people.
- 2:01:50What would you like me to know? Thank you, Your Honor.
- 2:01:53Originally we were before the court just by way of catching up
- 2:01:58on. April. 2nd of 2025.
- 2:02:00At that time. On this file we entered into a
- 2:02:03plea agreement with the defendant, pled to it on an
- 2:02:06amended information count 3 as Individual offender 4th.
- 2:02:10I did that under a one year delay.
- 2:02:12Pursuant to. MCL 771.1 but if the defendant
- 2:02:16remained bond compliant had no new charges of the defendant
- 2:02:19would be sentenced on count 3. As I have 4:00 with no further
- 2:02:22upfront yet, I would dismiss all those other files and the
- 2:02:26remaining files on or charges on this file and then said I said
- 2:02:30if the defendant or the agreement was if the defendant
- 2:02:33is non bond compliant or is. Charged with new.
- 2:02:35Crimes Count 1 shall enter as I have 4:00 no sentence agreement
- 2:02:39and Count 3 that was added pursuant to that plea agreement
- 2:02:43would be dismissed. I.
- 2:02:45Did that because of the advocacy of Mr. Anderson he actually got
- 2:02:50me feeling bad for Mr. Leggings and that was provided with some
- 2:02:55health information for him and said as someone we ought to we
- 2:02:59ought to try to do something here.
- 2:03:00So let's do this. Let's let's reduce this.
- 2:03:02Let's not put him in our jail and let's let him just for one
- 2:03:05year that's. All.
- 2:03:06It's going to take is one year let.
- 2:03:08Him prove to. Us that he can get a job or
- 2:03:11volunteers time or just sit in the house and watch TV.
- 2:03:14But for heaven's sake, let's stop with the drug.
- 2:03:16Dealing and having. Guns and we didn't make it very
- 2:03:19long at that point. We then had bond violations
- 2:03:24because we picked up the new file that.
- 2:03:26Being the. 20. 56131 file while he was on the one year delay
- 2:03:33where there was a raid at where he was at and he was sitting on
- 2:03:37a bed with a. Bag of oak on the bed.
- 2:03:39And other items in the room that oddly enough also contain the
- 2:03:44medical information that had previously been provided by
- 2:03:46council to get me to give him a deal.
- 2:03:52I then instead of having him getting sentenced.
- 2:03:55Pursuant to the. Guidelines on this case with
- 2:03:58with no agreement still. Somewhat.
- 2:04:04Failing for Mr. Leggings, we entered into this agreement
- 2:04:06where I'm. Going to say.
- 2:04:07That he only does the 24 months I've practiced in front of your
- 2:04:10honor enough to know that this court does not take kindly to
- 2:04:13drug. Dealers.
- 2:04:15This court does not take kindly to people not.
- 2:04:17Following. The court's orders and that
- 2:04:20situation for Mr. Leggings possibly could be a lot worse.
- 2:04:23I note in that new file that he got charged with while on bond.
- 2:04:27His guidelines if I remember correctly start I think it's 70
- 2:04:30something months. Today I was provided by Council
- 2:04:34a packet from CMH with a treatment plan for Mr. Leggings.
- 2:04:39It appears. As though he.
- 2:04:40Was ordered no bond by this court in September of 25 and
- 2:04:45then in December of 25, CMH came out and gave this treatment
- 2:04:49plan. And I think the prospect here is
- 2:04:52that even though there's an agreement that there's a fixed
- 2:04:54minimum of 24 months. Mr. Leggings.
- 2:04:56Would like to ask this court. For some kind of treatment.
- 2:04:58Well, it's my. Position you can get that.
- 2:05:01At this point in time I have nollies for the.
- 2:05:04Dismissed. Files 23969 FH, I'm going to be
- 2:05:08dismissing another high severity felony delivery of less than 50
- 2:05:12grams along with possession by a felon of a firearm, possession
- 2:05:16of ammunition by a felon and a felony firearm charge.
- 2:05:20And then in 25369 I'll be dismissing firearms possession
- 2:05:25by a prohibited person, controlled substances,
- 2:05:27maintaining a drug house as an habitual Thunder 4th.
- 2:05:30And. Then finally.
- 2:05:31In the 25. 131 FH file. I will be dismissing the
- 2:05:35controlled substance delivery manufacturer of methamphetamine,
- 2:05:39the controlled substance delivery manufacturer of less
- 2:05:41than 50 grams, the weapons ammunition possession by a
- 2:05:44prohibited person, the weapons dangerous weapon possession
- 2:05:49miscellaneous and habitual Thunder for notice, the
- 2:05:52defendant has 9. Prior.
- 2:05:53Felonies on his record to. Think that he wasn't.
- 2:05:56Afforded some form of treatment or help at some point in time.
- 2:06:00That would be naive of us, so I'm asking the court.
- 2:06:02To follow. The agreement the defendant has
- 2:06:05earned his 24 months fixed, he's earned quite a bit more, but
- 2:06:08that's where we're at. He has.
- 2:06:11Almost a year. Getting close to a year of
- 2:06:13credit. And then he can.
- 2:06:15Do his time on parole and have a nice towel if he decides to
- 2:06:18continue with this. I don't see the problem here as
- 2:06:21Mr. Leggings being just a user and having a substance abuse
- 2:06:24problem. He's.
- 2:06:25Always called large quantities. There's always there seems to be
- 2:06:28guns and ammunition nearby. Tells me he's a drug dealer,
- 2:06:31tells me he's peddling drugs to the community.
- 2:06:33He's not working. He's not paying his taxes like
- 2:06:35the rest of us. And at this point in time, I
- 2:06:38think the message that needs to be sent is that he needs to go
- 2:06:42to MDOC. I'm sorry he has health issues.
- 2:06:44I'm sorry he appears in court today and has to sit down.
- 2:06:47I would suspect that the. Michigan.
- 2:06:50Department of Corrections has a much better system and it's
- 2:06:53better equip to treat. And help.
- 2:06:54Mr. Leggings, with whatever issues he has, I'm asking the
- 2:06:57court, while it is a sympathetic situation, situation.
- 2:07:02I'm sorry, it is a. Sympathetic situation.
- 2:07:04Thank you. And he is 67 years old.
- 2:07:07He has earned this. And I'm asking the court to
- 2:07:10follow our agreement. Thank you.
- 2:07:12So the question I have is the agreement was for a fixed 24
- 2:07:16months. Has he were any of these
- 2:07:18violations after that agreement? Did he violate this agreement?
- 2:07:23No. No, you're the new agreement we
- 2:07:25have with the fixed 24 since it's been in jail.
- 2:07:27So no, he has not. That.
- 2:07:30That's correct. Haven't been any bond violations
- 2:07:34as he's been in custody. Your honor, I know that you've
- 2:07:39reviewed this pre sentence report and one of the things
- 2:07:42that you looked at is probably the lengthy criminal history of
- 2:07:45Mr. Legan's that spans multiple pages.
- 2:07:48I do want to draw your attention to that.
- 2:07:54Criminal. History and what you'll notice,
- 2:07:57your Honor, is yes, it starts in 1983, starting with a larceny
- 2:08:02over 100 and 198519. 8819. 91 where there's a controlled
- 2:08:11substance and then we get to 2004 retail fraud second degree.
- 2:08:20And what you will notice after those string of retail frauds,
- 2:08:24which is this court is very aware of is very addictive.
- 2:08:28An individual with a substance abuse problem is that you'll
- 2:08:32notice from 2004 until 2018, what we have is a gap outside of
- 2:08:40a few driving while licensed suspended, which were likely
- 2:08:47suspended due to his substance abuse problems.
- 2:08:51Now, I think that period of time is important because it does
- 2:08:58show that the individual that Mister Leakins can be.
- 2:09:01During that period of time, he was married, he was employed.
- 2:09:05In fact, he owned a a business as a restaurant owner where he
- 2:09:09also cooked. But also importantly, he did a
- 2:09:12lot of self reflection as to his faith and in fact was engaged as
- 2:09:18a pastor during that period of time.
- 2:09:20Now what we see is after 2018, Mr. Legan's, my understanding is
- 2:09:28at that point in time he went through a divorce.
- 2:09:30He then got involved with the wrong individuals and began
- 2:09:34using again. And so while Mr. Bourbon
- 2:09:41indicates that Mister Legan is a dealer and yes, he is being
- 2:09:46sentenced for possession with intent to deliver, as this court
- 2:09:51is well aware, individuals often deal in small amounts in order
- 2:09:57to feed their habits. Now that is what I believe Mr.
- 2:10:00Legan was doing based on multiple conversations with him,
- 2:10:03based upon, at this point in time, over 2 years of
- 2:10:07representation and discussions with Mr. Legan's.
- 2:10:11What he's indicated to me is pretty much, your honor, he's
- 2:10:17too old at this point. He's too old to be doing this.
- 2:10:21He's too. Old to be using.
- 2:10:22He already has a plethora of health issues, diabetes, heart
- 2:10:28problems, just. Ankle.
- 2:10:31Problems and the use of substances only increases that
- 2:10:35so. Your Honor.
- 2:10:37The agreement is in my view what the agreement is as the court
- 2:10:44was provided Mr. Legan's did reach out to CMH in terms of
- 2:10:50setting out a treatment plan for him.
- 2:10:51That recommendation was for him to get engage in inpatient
- 2:10:55treatment. But what I also know you will
- 2:10:59note in the presentence report is that during his incarceration
- 2:11:04so far, he is engaged with cats in order to work on his
- 2:11:09substance abuse. So it's not as though Mr.
- 2:11:12Leagans has been sitting in the jail.
- 2:11:14Being. Unproductive, not trying to
- 2:11:18engage in what his demons are and his demons involve.
- 2:11:23The use. Of illegal substances and legal
- 2:11:26substances, namely alcohol. So, Your Honor, I do want this
- 2:11:31court to be aware. Of.
- 2:11:35Wow, we have this massive criminal history.
- 2:11:38What we also have is that. Gap.
- 2:11:40Of the individual that Mister Leagans can be when he is clean
- 2:11:44and sober and away from, in my view, certain influence.
- 2:11:50Now, in a what I'm going to call magical Christmas land world, we
- 2:11:57would get Mr. Leagans out of Ingham County into an inpatient
- 2:12:02facility like Bear River up north.
- 2:12:05But I do understand what the agreement is.
- 2:12:10I believe it's a fair agreement, but I wanted this court to be
- 2:12:14aware of the information and the context in terms of that
- 2:12:19criminal history. Thank.
- 2:12:21You, You are a Zel's advocate, but what I see here is less than
- 2:12:27stellar, despite excuses that you may have.
- 2:12:31Sir, what would you like me to know it's.
- 2:12:34Been a horrible talk and like I'm still going to be too too
- 2:12:38Hard Rock there in a in a Stony place right now.
- 2:12:42I come from a large family. I come from eight brothers and
- 2:12:47four sisters and the only thing that in my family now is 2 boys
- 2:12:53and one. Girl, all the rest.
- 2:12:54Of them passed on and and a whole lot of them passed on
- 2:12:57because I come to my family that use drugs a lot.
- 2:13:02That's how I got. Onto it they.
- 2:13:05Introduced me 1975 My family, My brother and sister introduced me
- 2:13:12to drugs back then and I caught a habit of doing that all the
- 2:13:16time. My mother, father, they
- 2:13:20deceived. My father was an alcoholic, my
- 2:13:23mother had some type of dealing with drugs, you know, my whole
- 2:13:27family. And he called this fucking
- 2:13:29family. And I was 15 and 16 years old
- 2:13:35back at 75. I was just tagged along behind
- 2:13:38them, what they did, you know, I see now that it was a bad choice
- 2:13:42I made probably behind my brothers and sisters the way I
- 2:13:45did. But seemed like everybody was
- 2:13:48doing that back then, you know, So I kind of have gone behind
- 2:13:53you and 83 I went to prison for retail fraud for I was still in
- 2:14:00to maintain a habit. 2004 No, you go back to you go back to
- 2:14:0719999901995K of 94 and 916 of 96.
- 2:14:19My kid mother, they moved to Colorado with me and I had AI
- 2:14:24only had a girl then and she came along we had another boy.
- 2:14:27Then we had another girl. They diagnosed her with cancer.
- 2:14:33And 9997 about a few months after the kid was born, they
- 2:14:39diagnosed with cancer then and they ended up we went together
- 2:14:44but we just kept our kids together mostly good.
- 2:14:48And she ended up where she was so bad with that cancer they
- 2:14:52were giving her. There were patches on her chest
- 2:14:56and she was getting a real bad drug habit.
- 2:15:00The drug habit was so bad where she figured that she didn't want
- 2:15:04to get around her family no more.
- 2:15:05So she up and left me kids. I took care of the kids myself.
- 2:15:09I ended up having a drug habit myself messing with her pain
- 2:15:12patches. And in 2004, chocolate tech age,
- 2:15:19she came in talk to me because people they do it to me and call
- 2:15:23chocolate. You know what I mean?
- 2:15:25They came and talked to me and said they didn't call me because
- 2:15:28it was a bad thing about you need some help calling, trying
- 2:15:32to take care of your kid by yourself while you got to do
- 2:15:34that. So we're trying to help you
- 2:15:37right now so you can anybody in your family get your kids to get
- 2:15:40yourself better. Gave.
- 2:15:42My kids to my niece once she gets deceased last year in May,
- 2:15:47she took care of my kids until I got myself better.
- 2:15:49I ended up wanting to even come in jail.
- 2:15:52I got a unity to come in jail with and I get suspended from
- 2:15:55completion of rehab. And I get.
- 2:15:58Back in cohesion retired and I ended up getting my kids back in
- 2:16:032007 at the same time I got my kids back from the state or my
- 2:16:08niece. Their mother died same time
- 2:16:11about a couple weeks later. In that month, I stayed in my
- 2:16:16ground. I stayed clean until 2018.
- 2:16:20I met a young lady in our church.
- 2:16:23I ended up marrying her. And I woke up one day and just
- 2:16:26realized this was the woman I married.
- 2:16:28You know, she's still in stealing money out of cash for
- 2:16:31this year, having affairs, have affairs behind my back to other
- 2:16:37other churches. She's the first lady of our
- 2:16:40church, but she walked out of our church and to somebody
- 2:16:43else's church and and I find out I knew the person came by my
- 2:16:48house to fight me in my own yard by my own wife.
- 2:16:50It was just so there was so much where I just I did my best to
- 2:16:57hold on to it, but there was just so many problems going on
- 2:17:00where I know I was wrong in a lot of ways, but but put me in
- 2:17:05prison right now ain't going to help though.
- 2:17:07I'm thinking we just make the problem more worse than what it
- 2:17:09is. I went to spring 2019 was a
- 2:17:12problem and when I came out I still had that same problem.
- 2:17:18I need some milk. I don't want to I don't want to
- 2:17:21live this way. I'm 97 years old and I don't
- 2:17:29know how much more time I got left in this life, but I know I
- 2:17:32don't want to leave it this way. Getting high and doing things to
- 2:17:37to get money to get out of it. I'm tired to throw myself to the
- 2:17:41mercenary court just. Sir, it's not just this court,
- 2:17:47but many courts, since it looks like from the history I have
- 2:17:52since 1983, I've tried to help you.
- 2:17:54And in fact, in 1985, there was even a prison escape.
- 2:17:59You have told me a very sad story.
- 2:18:02I believe that story. But at some point, you're not a
- 2:18:06kid anymore, you're a man, and you don't look to illegal drugs
- 2:18:11and alcohol to help you. And I understand that's how you
- 2:18:14were raised. But we do have this what, 14
- 2:18:19year gap where you are married, employed, crime free and learned
- 2:18:26your lesson. And then something bad happens
- 2:18:29and you went right back to drugs.
- 2:18:31The problems are is you didn't just go back to drugs.
- 2:18:35You didn't just harm you yourself and harmed others
- 2:18:39because when you give, share or sell illegal drugs, you're
- 2:18:42addicting or killing other people.
- 2:18:44And you don't know how many people died at your hands, how
- 2:18:47many people you helped with their addiction.
- 2:18:49Get help, make it worse, or maybe somebody else start an
- 2:18:53addiction. It's all connected, Sir.
- 2:18:57What this is, this is the honest God truth.
- 2:19:01I've never been a drug dealer. I've been a drug user.
- 2:19:04I never deal with drugs. Nobody.
- 2:19:07No, Sir. I have a history here.
- 2:19:09Do you ever share your drugs? OK, That's called dealing.
- 2:19:13OK. No difference.
- 2:19:16No difference. I'm unclear what you think the
- 2:19:20difference is. When you share it and you can
- 2:19:22give it for free. You can get money for it.
- 2:19:24You could get some permission to sleep on someone's couch,
- 2:19:28whatever. You share it, You shared it, you
- 2:19:30dealt it, and now I have to deal with you.
- 2:19:32Your just reward, which is prison, That was your agreement.
- 2:19:37That was not the initial agreement.
- 2:19:38But now I have one file turned into four files over the course
- 2:19:42of a couple of years. I am happy you finally want
- 2:19:46treatment, but you're going to get it behind bars.
- 2:19:50So there's nothing I can do. It's your agreement.
- 2:19:53And Sir, I asked about whether or not you broke the agreement
- 2:19:57because I think you ought to spend more time in prison now,
- 2:19:59less. And I'm very sorry for your
- 2:20:02health. But your drug addiction did not
- 2:20:05help your health. The only one that caused your
- 2:20:07demise was you. And this history is horrible.
- 2:20:14There's no real remorse for what you've done here.
- 2:20:20We have guns. We have property crimes, crimes
- 2:20:23against the Department of Corrections, against law
- 2:20:25enforcement and a lot of drugs. A.
- 2:20:31Lot of drugs, Sir. And there in 2019 you were
- 2:20:36ordered to complete Tricap and you've got me from treatment.
- 2:20:40So maybe at six to seven years old you have treatment.
- 2:20:43Now it's pending jail or prison I should say.
- 2:20:48And you could have gone to treatment at any time on your
- 2:20:52own, but you didn't. So I hope this time you avail
- 2:20:57yourself of the treatment in prison.
- 2:20:58They've gotten a lot better, but I cannot have any sympathy for
- 2:21:06you at this point, especially since not only do we have
- 2:21:10delivery manufacturer and we have heroin, cocaine, there's
- 2:21:15lots of things, alcohol that you've abused, but multiple
- 2:21:19pounds of firearms. I mean, we have people dying
- 2:21:23every single day and firearms, addiction, drugs, selling or
- 2:21:28sharing drugs, it all goes together.
- 2:21:30This has to stop now, Sir. And if I didn't accept the
- 2:21:35agreement, I would delay matters more.
- 2:21:37So I'm going to accept the agreement.
- 2:21:43So therefore, Sir, you are remanded to the Michigan
- 2:21:45Department of Corrections for 24 months to 360 months with credit
- 2:21:52for 248 days served. You'll pay a crime victim's
- 2:21:56assessment amount of $130.00 and a state cost in the amount of
- 2:22:01$68. Those will not become due until
- 2:22:04two years after your release served.
- 2:22:06You can return pop outs and get that paid off during that time.
- 2:22:11You also once you are released, or maybe you'll do it before,
- 2:22:14you need to clean up these civil infractions because they can do
- 2:22:17a warrant and you can walk out of prison only to go back in
- 2:22:20because you haven't paid those. So figure it out.
- 2:22:23Maybe since you're arrested they'll withdraw the the money
- 2:22:25you owe. Maybe that'll give you a time
- 2:22:27extension. But you need to deal with that
- 2:22:29Sir. You need to be accountable on
- 2:22:31all fronts. You need to be crime free, drug
- 2:22:33free, alcohol free, and not turn to drugs when you have a
- 2:22:39problem. There's nothing in a divorce
- 2:22:42decree that gives you the ability to have get out of
- 2:22:47prison free card because you were so affected by the divorce.
- 2:22:54You somehow have permission to violate the law and use and sell
- 2:22:58drugs. So your excuses are simply
- 2:23:01excuses that are fall very short.
- 2:23:04Sir, I hope you use the tools you learn.
- 2:23:07I do have and I looked at this treatment plan.
- 2:23:09It's an exceptional treatment plan.
- 2:23:11They did right by you. The only one not doing right by
- 2:23:14you is you. Avail yourself of treatment in
- 2:23:16prison. Follow a treatment plan, ask for
- 2:23:20help, stay clean and sober. I think I noted that you have a
- 2:23:24sister who might be like 97 years old.
- 2:23:28You got longevity in your family.
- 2:23:31You're lucky. You're blessed that way.
- 2:23:34So you're also, by using all these drugs, killing that gift
- 2:23:39that God gave your family. There were a lot of issues in
- 2:23:42your family, but you could have stepped outside the drugs at any
- 2:23:45of these times that you were before.
- 2:23:46Multiple judges on these 10 felonies.
- 2:23:51And there's much more because they were all plea deals.
- 2:23:56So my hands are tied. You will be provided mental
- 2:24:02health treatment and health treatment in regard to the
- 2:24:09multiple issues you have physically and also in terms of
- 2:24:13your addiction issues. You will attend a Ana or CA and
- 2:24:18any treatment programs they have.
- 2:24:23How do you support yourself Sir? SSISSC OR what?
- 2:24:33All right, so you'll participate in any kind of trade school and
- 2:24:37any programming they have for finding you a home, halfway
- 2:24:43house, whatever they do in terms of the continuing treatment, as
- 2:24:47well as perhaps applying for SSI.
- 2:24:52Have you ever worked? What kind of work do you do?
- 2:24:57OK, so you have the ability to get a job.
- 2:25:00So you'll also be part of some kind of work seek program, both
- 2:25:04on parole as well as while you're incarcerated.
- 2:25:08They have different kinds of programs where you can learn to
- 2:25:13do applications and do other things.
- 2:25:14So I don't know what prison you'll be at, but you will avail
- 2:25:17yourself of those things you need.
- 2:25:18So once you walk out of prison you are no longer homeless or
- 2:25:23without an employment. Sir, if this keeps up you will
- 2:25:26die in a jumpsuit in prison. Would you like to die a Freeman
- 2:25:30or an imprisoned 1? Well, that's.
- 2:25:34The right answer? Let's figure out how to get
- 2:25:35there. You know how to make good
- 2:25:37choices. You're certainly articulate.
- 2:25:39You have a 7th grade education, but you talk like you got a
- 2:25:42college degree, so you learned a few things along the way, but
- 2:25:45let's use them for good instead of evil.
- 2:25:47Drugs are evil, Sir. They kill people every single
- 2:25:51day. Gums kill people every single
- 2:25:53day. Stay away from all of that.
- 2:25:58Choose the right side and you know what it is.
- 2:26:01Obviously you said you were a pastor, so I don't know what
- 2:26:05you're going to say to God. But you.
- 2:26:07Certainly turned your back on him.
- 2:26:09He's still there. I understand he lives in jail,
- 2:26:11in prison, people find him there all the time.
- 2:26:13Maybe you can do some good to your fellow inmates and your own
- 2:26:18rehabilitation, finding him in there and having a few heart to
- 2:26:22hearts. You have 42 days to appeal and
- 2:26:25to request a public counsel. I just want to make it clear
- 2:26:28that he does get the credit for the 248.
- 2:26:31Anything else? Given.
- 2:26:34To the court the knowledge process for the other files that
- 2:26:37will be received. Arranged and.
- 2:26:39Your Honor, for the record, I am providing him a notice of rights
- 2:26:43appellate review. Sir, do you acknowledge
- 2:26:46receiving your appellate rights, your reportage days to appeal,
- 2:26:48to request appellate counsel to acknowledge that?
- 2:26:51All right. Thank you.
- 2:26:52Court sign of analysis. If you wait a moment, counsel
- 2:26:55make sure you get your copies. Thank you.
- 2:26:57Thank you. That's all for the record.
- 2:27:01All righty friends, we're all ready to wrap it up here in
- 2:27:06about 15 or so minutes here on TCF Live on this Fine fine
- 2:27:09Wednesday. But we got.
- 2:27:10Time for one or two more things. Let's go down to Louisiana and
- 2:27:14visit with our good, good friends at the Parole board.
- 2:27:18OK. Good morning.
- 2:27:19Good. Morning.
- 2:27:22OK. Is this Gabriel Francis?
- 2:27:26Yes, ma'am. OK, Gabriel Francis, you're here
- 2:27:30for a parole revocation and my name is Carolyn Stapleton.
- 2:27:36And today is May the 20th and I'm from headquarters and
- 2:27:40headquarters staff. Will you introduce yourself,
- 2:27:43please? Thompson and Jasmine Thompson.
- 2:27:48OK. And on the panel today is
- 2:27:50myself, Carolyn Stapleton, Pete Freeman and Steve Prater.
- 2:27:56So I'm going to, I'm going to ask you, do you have AI want you
- 2:28:00to introduce yourself with your DLC number, please?
- 2:28:03Gabriel. Francis 5040202.
- 2:28:08OK, do you have a questionnaire? Yes, ma'am, I believe so.
- 2:28:15Yes, Sir, According to how you answered the questionnaire,
- 2:28:20you're not considered eligible for appointed counsel.
- 2:28:25You're aware of that? No.
- 2:28:27Ma'am, I wasn't aware of that. OK.
- 2:28:31Did you want to retain or hire your own council?
- 2:28:35I mean, at this point I can't. OK.
- 2:28:38OK. That's understandable.
- 2:28:40OK, Well, thank you very much. OK.
- 2:28:43So. Today, the person that is going
- 2:28:47to be handling your case on the panel is Mr. Pete Freeman, and
- 2:28:51I'm going to hand case over to him.
- 2:28:54OK, Mr. Francis, I'm going to read the conditions that has
- 2:28:59alleged you violated. You plead guilty or not guilty
- 2:29:02and we'll discuss them as we go. Condition #4 We're not engaged
- 2:29:06in any criminal activity nor will I associate with people who
- 2:29:09are known to be involved in crack criminal activity.
- 2:29:13I will avoid bars and casinos and I will frame from illegal
- 2:29:16use of drugs or alcohol. You're on 2/18/26, you tested
- 2:29:23positive for opiates and you also admitted that you used
- 2:29:28marijuana on 3/3/26. How do you plead to those
- 2:29:34charges not? Guilty.
- 2:29:37OK. And also on 2/18/26 you
- 2:29:43obstructed justice and that you would not give the probation
- 2:29:46officer your telephone. How do you plead to that charge
- 2:29:50not? Guilty.
- 2:29:51OK, tell me about it. Please Sit up straight.
- 2:29:54Don't. Don't sit like that.
- 2:29:55No, I am sitting up straight like more OK.
- 2:29:59No, that's good. You're good.
- 2:30:00All right, So. So tell me what?
- 2:30:03Tell me about the phone. I want to know about this phone.
- 2:30:05Why wouldn't you give him the phone?
- 2:30:08Because. When I got into the probation
- 2:30:11and parole office he asked me to come to the back.
- 2:30:15I got to the back and he asked me about a piss test.
- 2:30:18Well I wasn't able to piss but I put like 2 drops of pee in the
- 2:30:22cup and he said it was dirty for opiates.
- 2:30:27I didn't know what opiates is and I told him no like it was
- 2:30:32impossible maybe it wasn't enough peeing.
- 2:30:35He didn't ask me he said well let's go get a second look.
- 2:30:39So got back there to the office and he placed cuffs on me and
- 2:30:44then they started reading in my rights.
- 2:30:48Then I had the right to feel like this was all like a trick
- 2:30:51or some kind of setup. So then once they Raven my
- 2:30:56rights, then he said he asked me about my phone to go through my
- 2:31:01phone. But to my understanding, you
- 2:31:03just Raven me my rights, which I have a right to remain silent.
- 2:31:06So I basically chose to remain silent and wouldn't allow them
- 2:31:11to do anything because I didn't know.
- 2:31:14I mean what you're charging me with what am I like what
- 2:31:17criminal conduct did I engage in or anything for you this to but
- 2:31:23it is basically to take place or for you to handle me like this,
- 2:31:26right? OK, well.
- 2:31:27Let me ask you this. I mean, did you sign a sex
- 2:31:29offender contract when you placed on probation?
- 2:31:32Yes. Sir.
- 2:31:33OK. Didn't it say that they have a
- 2:31:35right to look at all of your computers, telephones, any kind
- 2:31:40of stuff like that? I.
- 2:31:41Didn't really remember that part of it.
- 2:31:44No, you. Don't remember that you couldn't
- 2:31:46have any social media. No, I don't have any social
- 2:31:49media. OK, when and you know, while we
- 2:31:53had it, tell me about these phone calls with your mother.
- 2:31:55I listened to them. Tell me, tell me what you was
- 2:31:58trying to accomplish there. Me and me.
- 2:32:00And my mom has the same basically account like she can
- 2:32:04look at my account because it's basically her account.
- 2:32:08I use a a phone number from off of her account.
- 2:32:12We share the same accounts, right?
- 2:32:14So whenever he told me that it was a social media account, he
- 2:32:20said it was Facebook. Somebody told him I was on
- 2:32:22Facebook and I was sending threats.
- 2:32:26So when I got to the jail, I called her to make sure I wanted
- 2:32:31her to see from her account. Like if she go and look up the
- 2:32:33information on her account she would be able to see which when
- 2:32:37she went and seen she didn't see no what what he was saying like
- 2:32:41no social media it. Sound like, I mean, I ain't got
- 2:32:44a lot of time. I listen to both telephones.
- 2:32:46It didn't sound like that's what you was trying to do.
- 2:32:47I was trying to make sure you weren't associated with any
- 2:32:51Facebook accounts that sound like and you were trying to get
- 2:32:53your name off. No, I told her to make sure I
- 2:32:57wasn't on there at all, like make sure nothing was linking me
- 2:32:59to that because he even though OK all.
- 2:33:04Right. So, all right, so you was trying
- 2:33:07to make sure that it wasn't linked to it?
- 2:33:09Yeah, because I heard what he said.
- 2:33:12So I just basically called her to make sure like look, take a
- 2:33:15look at this and go to see make sure I'm not linked to none of
- 2:33:18this. OK all.
- 2:33:20Right, well, I'm going to go on and read the other violations
- 2:33:24and we're going to hear from your probation officer, Miss
- 2:33:27Melissa Bears. So hold on, Miss Bears, I'm
- 2:33:30going to get to you. OK, so the other violations I'll
- 2:33:35deal pretty much with the same thing.
- 2:33:37I will truthfully and probably answer all questions directed to
- 2:33:40me by my parole officer. 262-1826 They wanted to inspect
- 2:33:46your phone. You failed to answer truthfully
- 2:33:49about your phone stating you left it at work.
- 2:33:51It was determined it was in your car and then once they got it,
- 2:33:56you didn't want to give them the code to get in.
- 2:33:58You saying that you didn't want to do it because they read your
- 2:34:02rights and you wanted to remain solid.
- 2:34:04Is that correct? I was just being and he knew
- 2:34:07that because I was being sarcastic, I already had been
- 2:34:10stated that I wasn't going to give him my phone.
- 2:34:12So it was a basically a sarcastic statement like it
- 2:34:15being like I left it at work, I left it in the car like because
- 2:34:19I already made it clear that I wouldn't give him my phone after
- 2:34:21you didn't read me my rights all.
- 2:34:23Right and I agree with visit at my residence or place in park on
- 2:34:28the rules at any time. I also agree the searches of my
- 2:34:32person, property, residence and or vehicle.
- 2:34:35But reasonable suspicion exists that I have been agreed to
- 2:34:38criminal conduct. You plead not guilty to that and
- 2:34:42it's the same thing you didn't want to let them expect inspect
- 2:34:46your phone and then #10 you owe $18127.00 in fees.
- 2:34:53Have you ever paid anything on your fees?
- 2:34:56No Sir. OK, well you have a working
- 2:34:59while you won't. Yes, Sir.
- 2:35:01OK. Why you didn't pay on the fees?
- 2:35:02Because I. Was paying rent.
- 2:35:04I pay my rent. I paid to basically to live.
- 2:35:08I mean, and I was going to pay it.
- 2:35:10I mean, that month I got a call and I was going to pay it.
- 2:35:16OK. Let's hear from Miss Melissa
- 2:35:20Bayers. Miss Bayers, tell us, tell us
- 2:35:23your side of what's going on. Well.
- 2:35:25Mr. Freeman, I'm actually the supervisor of his officer, which
- 2:35:29is Officer Cato. And on that date, on February
- 2:35:3218th of 2026, when he was brought to my office for me to
- 2:35:37do the electronic inspection of the phone based on those
- 2:35:40complaints. That.
- 2:35:42Officer Cato received he, he first acted like he did not have
- 2:35:47the phone and then he also, I did give him his Miranda warning
- 2:35:52due to my training, because in the event that criminal activity
- 2:35:56was confirmed and I didn't want the evidence to be suppressed
- 2:35:59because I didn't know. The.
- 2:36:01Nature of that evidence and he refused to provide the passcode.
- 2:36:06He refused to allow me to do the electronic inspection.
- 2:36:12His his sex offender contract was brought to the office along
- 2:36:16with his certificate and his file and I showed that to him
- 2:36:19and he still continued to not allow me to do the inspection of
- 2:36:25his phone. OK, thank you, ma'am.
- 2:36:27OK, let's let's hear from his officer.
- 2:36:29Mr. Cato, thank you for joining us today, Miss Boris.
- 2:36:33Good morning. Good morning.
- 2:36:35OK, tell, tell us what went on with with him and how he
- 2:36:39violated his probation. Give me just one second.
- 2:36:43I'm going to shut my office door, if that's all right.
- 2:36:45Yes, Sir. All right.
- 2:36:49So on the morning of February 18th of this year, I received a
- 2:36:54phone call from Joycee Carter, who advised me that she was at
- 2:36:58the courthouse filing for a petition for protective.
- 2:37:02Protective. Order against Gabriel Francis.
- 2:37:06She alleged that he had been sending messages to her and her
- 2:37:09husband via Facebook Messenger and she then provided me with
- 2:37:15the petition for protective order.
- 2:37:19We looked up the name that she provided for his Facebook.
- 2:37:24Miss Melissa and I looked at it on Miss Melissa's work phone and
- 2:37:27it did appear that it was his active Facebook account.
- 2:37:31Based. On the pictures on the Facebook.
- 2:37:34So we called him in because we wanted to verify if he had
- 2:37:38social media active on his phone.
- 2:37:40We called him in that day. I did drug screen him.
- 2:37:45He was only able to provide a very minimal samples, probably
- 2:37:49about two or three drops, so not all of the lines even red, but
- 2:37:54he was positive for opiates. His claim on that day was that
- 2:37:59he had taken one of his own pain pills from an old prescription
- 2:38:04that would have no longer been valid.
- 2:38:07I asked him if he was able to provide that prescription to us.
- 2:38:11He said it was not, but he said it was his own prescription,
- 2:38:15just an old one. I did say we were going to get a
- 2:38:20second opinion. That was my way of bringing him
- 2:38:23back to the office. We had been instructed due to
- 2:38:29the instant offense that he was on for that when we searched his
- 2:38:32phone, we were to have him secured in handcuffs because
- 2:38:37he's currently on supervision for disarming an officer.
- 2:38:45We brought him back. Miss Melissa began to read him
- 2:38:47his rights after we after I put him in handcuffs.
- 2:38:52Explain to him you're not under arrest at this time, but we are
- 2:38:55detaining you. Miss Melissa is going to explain
- 2:38:57everything. She advised that we wanted to
- 2:39:01check his phone for any illegal activity, she be able to read
- 2:39:06him his rights. He refused to provide his phone,
- 2:39:08said I left it at the office, I left that back at work.
- 2:39:11He was working at a hotel, said I left it in the room there.
- 2:39:15I explained to him was like you texted me when you first got
- 2:39:17here, so there's no way you left your phone there.
- 2:39:19He's like, well, I don't have it, I don't have it.
- 2:39:24Finally, another officer went outside, was able to obtain the
- 2:39:29car for obtain the phone from his sister who was parked
- 2:39:32outside. And then he wouldn't give us the
- 2:39:34passcode. We explained that, well, if you
- 2:39:37refuse to do this, then we are still going to book you for
- 2:39:40parole violations. And he said, all right, let's go
- 2:39:43take me to jail. So at that point, we then I
- 2:39:47served him that same week with a notice of preliminary hearing
- 2:39:51with those violations. We reached out to the Attorney
- 2:39:55General's office regarding the investigation for his phone
- 2:39:59because we did confiscate his phone at that time.
- 2:40:03Since that time, I don't know if if y'all have received it.
- 2:40:06We had another preliminary hearing on Friday for him
- 2:40:08because the Attorney General's office has issued A reps
- 2:40:12warrants for four counts of unlawful use of social media and
- 2:40:17two counts of failure to register as a sex offender.
- 2:40:19OK. So do you?
- 2:40:21Do you know what? They found on They did find he
- 2:40:24had an account there. So.
- 2:40:26That was through their searches of because they ended up
- 2:40:29subpoenaing records from Meta for Facebook, Instagram and
- 2:40:34Threads. So they were able to find if
- 2:40:37they were never, I don't believe at this time, I don't know if
- 2:40:40they've actually gotten into his phone, but they have found the
- 2:40:43other information about them. Yes.
- 2:40:46Yes. OK.
- 2:40:48Does any of my colleagues have a question for Miss Baras or or
- 2:40:52Mr. Cato? I don't OK all.
- 2:40:55Right. I have no further questions for
- 2:40:57the offender. Does do either of y'all have any
- 2:41:02questions? I don't.
- 2:41:03Mr. Prider, I. Have no questions.
- 2:41:06Thank you. Ready to vote when the panel's
- 2:41:08ready? Mr. Freeman, ready to vote?
- 2:41:12You would vote the 1st. Yes, ma'am.
- 2:41:16OK, Mr. Gabriel, I, you know, it's quite obvious you wouldn't
- 2:41:20give him the phone and you sign the contract.
- 2:41:22So that's the end of that. I find your violation of
- 2:41:25condition #4 #7 #9 and #13 and my vote is to revoke.
- 2:41:32Mr. Prater. Well, yes, Sir, my vote is to
- 2:41:35revoke. Also when you get when you're on
- 2:41:38a sex offender contract, you're not supposed to be on your phone
- 2:41:41on social media and to find out or not, you got to let us
- 2:41:45inspect it. And I think that you very hard
- 2:41:48to supervise, very hard to deal with, got a horrible attitude
- 2:41:51and in violation of the conditions mentioned by Mr.
- 2:41:54Freeman. So you find that you revoking
- 2:41:57for the same conditions, OK. And I concur with Mr. Freeman,
- 2:42:03I'll revoke you also for for the conditions that you mentioned
- 2:42:07earlier. So today, Sir, your, your, your
- 2:42:11parole has been revoked and the time is 9/13 at Louise at
- 2:42:16Lafayette Parish Correction Center.
- 2:42:18So. If you're shocked by that one,
- 2:42:20put a one in the chat. I'm not suspecting we'll see a
- 2:42:23lot of ones so our three hours are up, but I've managed to get
- 2:42:28a decent amount done while we've been streaming this morning so
- 2:42:31we're going to go a bonus 30 minutes.
- 2:42:33I hope to get back to 4 hours soon but I've just been so
- 2:42:36behind on work but today. We have a little.
- 2:42:38Extra time. Let's go.
- 2:42:42Oh, so many choices. Michigan back to Judge Simpson
- 2:42:46and good morning mayor please Coriano Attorney Damien Cass P
- 2:42:48number 85852 appearing on behalf of the second case for Mr. Brian
- 2:42:52Blair and Mr. Blair, if you can here state your name for the
- 2:42:54record. Byron Blair.
- 2:42:56Thank you, Sir. Thank you mark.
- 2:42:59What are we doing your Honor? After having a discussion with
- 2:43:03Co Council on this and with Brother Council APA who
- 2:43:07received. The.
- 2:43:09Offer last night and at this time we're we are not willing to
- 2:43:13accept that current offer and would like to set a final
- 2:43:16settlement conference in both cases.
- 2:43:18Very final settlement conference will be set June 5th, 2026, 9:00
- 2:43:22AM. Jury selection if necessary.
- 2:43:25June 8th, 2026 at 8:30. Both of those proceedings are in
- 2:43:31person. Thank you your honor.
- 2:43:34Body will continue to work. Hold on to work.
- 2:43:38Hold on. I have to be in person.
- 2:43:41I'm sorry. Yes, those are in person to
- 2:43:43date. June. 5th for jury Final
- 2:43:46settlement conference, June 8th. For.
- 2:43:49Jury selection. OK in person.
- 2:43:52Thank you, Bond. We'll continue.
- 2:43:54Thank you. I have anything else?
- 2:44:01So Hugo. Mac.
- 2:44:03Let us know he's running late. You.
- 2:44:05Do have your recall from Miss Barnwell are?
- 2:44:08You ready Miss Barnwell yet? Everyone's more, I mean.
- 2:44:11Hopefully it's show up on the zoom but.
- 2:44:14OK, I'll show you. So you're going to do it.
- 2:44:19OK, Dad, somebody. 'S calling me right now.
- 2:44:23OK, sorry that somebody. That's important for all of us
- 2:44:26or you just letting me know. Hello.
- 2:44:28No, I'm kidding. Go.
- 2:44:31I'm just can I just go? Go.
- 2:44:34Go, go. No.
- 2:44:36Somebody was calling me too, but I didn't tell him.
- 2:44:38I mean, I would have think it was a client.
- 2:44:44What's his name? Well, let's hope it is so and
- 2:44:51we're waiting on. I.
- 2:44:54Don't have a watch today out of here.
- 2:45:01And Mr. Mack was coming from downtown, Yes.
- 2:45:04Sir, Alright. Something like that.
- 2:45:08The jail is up. The jail is up.
- 2:45:10Are they ready? Are you Mr. You need more?
- 2:45:14I will make do with what I have. I don't want to.
- 2:45:17No, no. I mean, we'll.
- 2:45:19I want to make sure that you have what you need.
- 2:45:22But why don't I do this? Let Miss Barlow know.
- 2:45:26I'll come back out. We'll call her case.
- 2:45:30I've got to win on Mr. Mack. That and that block.
- 2:45:32We can get set up for the next block.
- 2:45:34See where Mr. Cook is? So I'm quarter standing in
- 2:45:37recess and Ross. All.
- 2:45:42Righty, I guess we're not getting much out of him at the
- 2:45:45moment then. But let's go back down to the
- 2:45:47board. They have a new contestant all.
- 2:45:50Right, my name is Carolyn Steps. I'm chairman today on your panel
- 2:45:56and you're at Bossier Parish medium security facility.
- 2:46:01Anyone in the room that would on needs to introduce.
- 2:46:05Themselves. I'm sorry I can't hear y'all.
- 2:46:09Can y'all get closer to the? Speaker, please.
- 2:46:12Deputy Danford here for the closure medium and Jason Johnson
- 2:46:15with the Steve Hall program. All right.
- 2:46:17Jason Johnson. OK, thank you.
- 2:46:21OK, so the time is now 9/26 9:27 and it's May 20th and I'm going
- 2:46:31to get you Mr. Carter. Well, let me tell you panelists
- 2:46:34today. Myself, Carolyn Stapleton, Pete
- 2:46:37Freeman and Steve Prater is on the panel today and the date is
- 2:46:41May 20th. Mr. Carter, will you please
- 2:46:44introduce yourself with your name and your DOC number for the
- 2:46:48record? Carter.
- 2:46:49My DOC number is 5. 41073. OK.
- 2:46:53Thank you, Sir. OK, at this time your case has
- 2:46:58been assigned to to me, so I'm going to read out the the rule
- 2:47:03violation. At your revocation hearing on 12
- 2:47:07or 2025, in lieu of revocation, the board ordered you to
- 2:47:11complete the long term DLC substance abuse program.
- 2:47:16You felt satisfied, satisfactorically complete the
- 2:47:20program due to rule violation #7A disrespect and rule
- 2:47:27violation 5 the aggravated disobedience.
- 2:47:32How do you plead for this, Sir? Guilty.
- 2:47:35OK, all right, Well, let's just go over to Mr. Johnson, who is
- 2:47:42from the program, and see what he has to say.
- 2:47:45Also, because you you did come today, I'd like to recognize
- 2:47:49you. Mr. Johnson, you have anything
- 2:47:51you'd like to say? OK.
- 2:47:53I'm sorry, I forgot to ask you. Did you get a questionnaire,
- 2:47:56Sir? Do you remember a questionnaire?
- 2:47:59We can put it up on the screen. Yes, Sir.
- 2:48:01Mr. Carter. OK.
- 2:48:03Do you recognize that? No, ma'am.
- 2:48:05This is no, ma'am. Hang on one minute.
- 2:48:09We're going to get it. Is there a chance we can turn
- 2:48:11that volume up there or he can sit very, very close, something
- 2:48:15with Bosure? So.
- 2:48:19We can barely. It is true.
- 2:48:20It's very difficult to hear you. You need.
- 2:48:24Can you speak up a little more, Mr. Carter?
- 2:48:26Yes. Ma'am, OK.
- 2:48:29That's that's a little bit better.
- 2:48:31When you raised your head up, I can hear you a little bit
- 2:48:33better. OK, Yes, ma'am.
- 2:48:35What about now? Yeah, I can hear you.
- 2:48:37How about Mr. Prater? Mr. Brim?
- 2:48:40Can you hear him? I can.
- 2:48:41Hear him, but he's still pretty sorry.
- 2:48:45It could be turned up louder. Something wrong with the volume
- 2:48:47there because we could couldn't even hear the deputies.
- 2:48:50No, we couldn't. OK.
- 2:48:52Do you recognize that questionnaire, Mr. Carter?
- 2:48:55Yes, ma'am. OK.
- 2:48:56Based upon that questionnaire, you are not eligible for
- 2:49:01appointed counsel. OK.
- 2:49:04All right. Thank, All right.
- 2:49:05And you plead guilty to the rule violations that I just read,
- 2:49:10correct? OK.
- 2:49:13Mr. Freeman or Mr. Prater, do you have anything to say Ready?
- 2:49:17To vote, Ready to vote, OK. Mr. Carter, based upon the fact
- 2:49:22that you pled guilty to the rule violations today, you're which
- 2:49:28was violation number 7 and violation #5 your parole has
- 2:49:32been revoked. And.
- 2:49:34That concludes our Yes, we. Just said we were ready to vote.
- 2:49:40We hadn't voted. Oh, I'm.
- 2:49:42Sorry, I did that again. OK.
- 2:49:44Mr. Freeman and Mr. Brett, I just passed it all up.
- 2:49:47I'm sorry, Mr. Freeman. What is your vote?
- 2:49:51OK, my vote is to revoke. He admitted violation condition
- 2:49:54number 7 and. Mr. Prayer, I.
- 2:49:56Prefer Revoke Committed to violation condition #7.
- 2:50:01OK. All right.
- 2:50:03So based upon your plea of guilty to violation #7, the
- 2:50:09board members, including myself, have revoked you violation #7.
- 2:50:16You've been so bad, Mr. Defendant, Sir, that I don't
- 2:50:19even need to call on my fellow board members.
- 2:50:23I know exactly how they're going to vote.
- 2:50:26We're just going to go ahead and revoke you.
- 2:50:29Oh. Wait, maybe we should get votes.
- 2:50:33All right, let's head back up to Michigan.
- 2:50:37Judge McNally, it's. B24B147-O75.
- 2:50:42B24B147-O48C24B147-O75A24B147-O48A. OK, go ahead.
- 2:50:52Your appearance. Yeah, thank.
- 2:50:54You, Sir. Good morning, attorney.
- 2:50:55Times Sports. P77177.
- 2:51:01I can't hear a word you just said.
- 2:51:04It's got 24 cases. These are 24 cases, right?
- 2:51:08It just didn't show up. Is that what happened?
- 2:51:11I. Believe so.
- 2:51:13It's actually October 23, kids. You live in Brownstown?
- 2:51:18Yes. Sir, why?
- 2:51:19Didn't you show up on these cases?
- 2:51:21Did I arraign him? You did.
- 2:51:23Did I set up cash bond? I.
- 2:51:26Believe he did. He was in, He wasn't.
- 2:51:29In custody at first. OK.
- 2:51:32Does he work? No, judge, I've just asked that
- 2:51:35he doesn't and I would ask if the vote would consider
- 2:51:38declaring him digits so I could try to get him some experts
- 2:51:42through the count. Well, you're.
- 2:51:43A retained lawyer, though the. Counter judge.
- 2:51:45Unfortunately he hasn't been able to finish payment.
- 2:51:49I plan on seeing, I don't. Think I can do that?
- 2:51:53Not if you're retained. I don't think I can do that.
- 2:51:57I mean. I could be wrong.
- 2:51:58If you want to fight something, Jimmy, I don't know what kind of
- 2:52:00expert you want, but what is this alcohol?
- 2:52:05You have my understanding here is that there's drugs involved
- 2:52:08and the alcohol limit didn't go past due, so it's become a
- 2:52:12little more. So what?
- 2:52:13What are we doing today adjourning this?
- 2:52:16Yes, Judge. Unfortunately the government
- 2:52:17hasn't been able to use the video yet and I need to.
- 2:52:21You might be able to affect that move.
- 2:52:22It's all in the. Prosecutor, will you, John?
- 2:52:25Did I tell you to go over and get printed?
- 2:52:28Did you? When I was in custody.
- 2:52:32Here. You gotta keep your voice up for
- 2:52:34me, I was. Printed when I was in.
- 2:52:36Custody here the day of quarter. Heather, this record was run on
- 2:52:40May the 12th. Would you double check and see
- 2:52:43if he's? I don't got all kinds of files
- 2:52:45here. Yes.
- 2:52:46I'll run a new record right now, Judge.
- 2:52:48Your. Name Caitlin Foley car in
- 2:52:50Boston. Township.
- 2:52:51Mr. Courts is asking about a video.
- 2:52:53Is the video still in existence it?
- 2:52:55Is brown. I'm just waiting for the Police
- 2:52:57Department to evict the necessary of actions and I'll
- 2:52:59get that right over to them. Guess.
- 2:53:01We're having a hard time getting police reports from Brownstown.
- 2:53:04That's. What I heard I always schedule
- 2:53:06police. Reports on this.
- 2:53:07Week. When I.
- 2:53:09Had to go to the file. So you should have, I thought.
- 2:53:12So I thought, So when's my next Brownstown day, Heather?
- 2:53:16Next one is June. 17th. All.
- 2:53:20Right. We're going to have to set a
- 2:53:21trial date too on this. So I'll set this for a pre trial
- 2:53:27on June the 17th at 8:30 in the morning and then I'm going to
- 2:53:31set a jury trial. We're going to have to pick a
- 2:53:33Friday, I think in July or what have you.
- 2:53:36OK, let's take. A look well, you are off July
- 2:53:4010th. Let's go and.
- 2:53:43Then the 1st Friday. Is a holiday, so July 17th would
- 2:53:48be the first Friday. Is that good with everybody I
- 2:53:51got? It judge if at all possible the
- 2:53:5424th would be more I can go is that.
- 2:53:56Good with you. All right, so we're going to
- 2:53:58have July the 24th at 8:30, final pretrial, that's the jury
- 2:54:04trial, the final pretrial June 17th at 8:30.
- 2:54:09Any and all motions to be filed by June 3rd and heard on June
- 2:54:1617th, Judge. I did get the new record back.
- 2:54:21It is showing that he was fingerprinted on the.
- 2:54:24On. Charge for October 6th.
- 2:54:26Thank. You.
- 2:54:27So that's what we'll do. I'm only writing on one of
- 2:54:29these, Heather, if you can just note that if you would.
- 2:54:33OK, so you're all set. You can go down the hall and get
- 2:54:36your notice. Bond is continued.
- 2:54:39Anything else, Council? Anything else?
- 2:54:42I don't know what's here. Police reports I I had three
- 2:54:46sentencings out of Brownstown and I didn't police report on
- 2:54:49any of them if. They never happened today.
- 2:54:52Yeah, I can. About you.
- 2:54:52Yeah, I know. I know you would.
- 2:54:54I get it. All right, Thanks a lot.
- 2:54:57Thank you both. Have a good day.
- 2:54:59Kayla. Nicole Zarnick, 265415211, your
- 2:55:03name. You're going to set a formal
- 2:55:06hearing on this? Yeah.
- 2:55:08I can update everything well. That isn't the issue ma'am.
- 2:55:12I you shouldn't be setting a formal appearing on an expired
- 2:55:15plate on the basis that you can't pay it now.
- 2:55:19If you're responsible of it, I can give you time to pay.
- 2:55:23The officer told me when I he gave me the ticket, if I got it
- 2:55:26within 10 days, you could get waived.
- 2:55:28And then I found out that wasn't an option here.
- 2:55:31So that's why I was just. Did you get your plate renewed?
- 2:55:34I mean, I can set a formal hearing if you want, but that's
- 2:55:38too. Much.
- 2:55:40No, no, if you want to do any it just it's pretty basic.
- 2:55:43Either you were or you weren't. This isn't a criminal charge and
- 2:55:47I'm just telling you if it's how long was it expired?
- 2:55:50I mean, if your basis for setting a formal hearing is
- 2:55:52because you can't pay it today, I can give you time.
- 2:55:57If you want a formal hearing, I'll give you a formal hearing.
- 2:56:00It's an expired plate is pretty cut and dry, but I'll be glad to
- 2:56:04do that for you if that's what you want.
- 2:56:05I don't want to talk to you out of doing something you want to
- 2:56:07do. I'm.
- 2:56:11Sorry, I can. Just take more time, that's
- 2:56:13fine. Instead of the hearing so.
- 2:56:16You you want a plead responsible, Sure.
- 2:56:19I don't want to talk you into it.
- 2:56:20If you want a formal hearing, I'll give you a formal hearing.
- 2:56:23It's OK, OK. To the charge expired plate, you
- 2:56:26plead responsible or not responsible.
- 2:56:29And you? Have your registration with you
- 2:56:31now? Yes, this citation was issued on
- 2:56:34April 12th. When did you go and get it?
- 2:56:38April 27th and. When had it expired?
- 2:56:41That's quite a waste. Look, I'll make it $100 for you
- 2:56:46and I'll tell me when you can pay this.
- 2:56:49I'll be happy to give you time to pay next.
- 2:56:51Week. I can give you more than that.
- 2:56:56OK. I'll be glad to give you until
- 2:56:59about June the 5th. Is that good?
- 2:57:02If you need more time, you call the court or come in here on
- 2:57:04before that due date. I'll be happy to give you an
- 2:57:06extension. OK.
- 2:57:08All right. Best of luck to you.
- 2:57:09Thank you. Michael Carter Burke here.
- 2:57:12He's. In let me get him out of the
- 2:57:15breakout room. Who's his lawyer?
- 2:57:17Does he have one miss? Patillo and we.
- 2:57:21Do have another in custody out here that Mister Carmen has,
- 2:57:24that is Mr. Edmonds. Michael Carter Burke I have two
- 2:57:384I7 O 2893 and I have 26I-4153-O four.
- 2:57:46Just wait one second. Mr. Burke.
- 2:57:48Your lawyer's on her way in. Good.
- 2:57:57Morning, Miss Patillo. I did, Mr. Burke, your your
- 2:58:02appearance, Yeah. Patillo, the 82378 On behalf of
- 2:58:06Mr. Burke, Mr. Burke your name Michael Cutterberg.
- 2:58:10So let's take the flea and elude he he pled to attempt unlawful
- 2:58:15use, which is a one year and I just simply find them in order
- 2:58:20them to serve the jail time and he asked to serve 274 more 275
- 2:58:26more days if fines and costs are not paid is what I ordered and
- 2:58:31he was he's in custody. He didn't show up for a show
- 2:58:34cause for ferry to pay back on March the 4th.
- 2:58:40Ultimately a bench warrant was issued and was brought in on May
- 2:58:431. I gave him a 6010% bond on that
- 2:58:48case and then on May the 6th, I reduced it to 6000 PR.
- 2:58:55The same thing on the other case.
- 2:58:56He pled guilty to possession of drug paraphernalia on May the
- 2:59:006th. I did not order a present
- 2:59:03reporter A screening anything. I mean, is he going to plead
- 2:59:07guilty to the failure to pay or does he wish to have a hearing
- 2:59:11he. Doesn't wish to have a hearing
- 2:59:13on an He can't. Pay.
- 2:59:16Who he's released does. Have this trust fund.
- 2:59:19He just has to go with his sister to get the money and he
- 2:59:22indicated that his sister has put some.
- 2:59:24Money into. His bank account.
- 2:59:27But. He just has to get out to get to
- 2:59:29it to pay. So is.
- 2:59:30He going to plead guilty? Yes.
- 2:59:32If you plead guilty here, Sir, you could get 275 days for
- 2:59:36failure to pay. Do you understand that?
- 2:59:38Yes, I do. You have the right to a hearing.
- 2:59:40If they have hearing. You have the right to
- 2:59:41questionnaire witnesses, to bring in your own, to use the
- 2:59:44subpoena powers the court to bring in your your own
- 2:59:47witnesses. You have the right to testify or
- 2:59:48remain silent. They have to prove by a
- 2:59:50preponderance of the evidence that you're guilty in order for
- 2:59:55you to be convicted of failure to pay.
- 2:59:57Do you understand that? Yes, I do do the.
- 3:00:00Charge that you failed to pay $785.
- 3:00:05How do you plead? I plead guilty.
- 3:00:07Did. You fail to pay.
- 3:00:09I failed to pay and I. Wanted you to pay 50 per week
- 3:00:12beginning November 7th of 25, right?
- 3:00:15I didn't know about that but I'll I'll definitely start doing
- 3:00:18that or I can pay. When I get.
- 3:00:19To my too much money on the account slow down.
- 3:00:22I'm sorry I gave you, I gave you time to pay when I sentenced you
- 3:00:25back on August the 12th right OF25I.
- 3:00:29I I think. You told me to come show off.
- 3:00:31And. Then you made an agreement.
- 3:00:33I didn't show up for the agreement.
- 3:00:34When you made the agreement for me, I didn't know about.
- 3:00:37I didn't know what what it was but he told me to pay right now
- 3:00:42I like my my sister put some money in my account so I can
- 3:00:45either start. Doing sure, sure, yes.
- 3:00:48Just answer my question. I I ordered you to pay $725.
- 3:00:52Yes, yes, she. Did and I.
- 3:00:54And I gave you time to pay and you didn't pay, Correct?
- 3:00:57Correct. Anybody force you to plead
- 3:00:59guilty? No Sir, just got a.
- 3:01:02Dilemma here you know that I accept your guilty plea to that
- 3:01:06charge and I've also got a possession of drug
- 3:01:09paraphernalia. I'm going to sentence you one.
- 3:01:11He lives on Gray's drive. He doesn't show up.
- 3:01:14He didn't do anything now he wants me to take him at his
- 3:01:16word. Why can't he call his sister and
- 3:01:18have his sister bring the money here?
- 3:01:20I don't think I'm going to do this.
- 3:01:21He's going to sit she. She she lives in.
- 3:01:23Minnesota, I'm sorry. He can access the money that you
- 3:01:27have. You.
- 3:01:28You want me to treat you like a baby or no?
- 3:01:32I have to go to probate court to get my.
- 3:01:33My stocks, I have to sell them and I haven't been able to sell
- 3:01:35them yet. It's been a little bit of a
- 3:01:37process. You know what?
- 3:01:40That's your problem. OK, I understand I.
- 3:01:43I told you to come and talk to me if you couldn't pay your
- 3:01:47fines and costs. You didn't pay, you didn't come
- 3:01:51and talk to me. And then since then you've gone
- 3:01:54out and committed another crime. I don't know what to do.
- 3:01:59I'm I'm serious, I'm not going to just I'm not going to release
- 3:02:01him on the off or if come that he's going to go out and get the
- 3:02:05money. It doesn't sound like he has
- 3:02:07real access. I don't care if he's a trust
- 3:02:09fund baby or not. If he was a trust fund baby back
- 3:02:13or is now he was back and August of last year did something
- 3:02:18happen did did you just become this trust fund guy since August
- 3:02:2225 I've. Just been waiting to sell the
- 3:02:24stock and I just have never got. Around to it I've been, I've
- 3:02:27been living. I.
- 3:02:29Just I got to go. I.
- 3:02:31Just got to sell the stock and I.
- 3:02:33Was going to get an attorney and to handle somebody.
- 3:02:35He's in the jail, so. Well, you got a big problem.
- 3:02:43What his? Housing situation was.
- 3:02:46The. For the first case, he does have
- 3:02:48a place where. He's living in his mother's own.
- 3:02:50Who am I hearing? Heather, I'm.
- 3:02:53Not sure George, maybe the background from the jail.
- 3:02:57Everybody else is muted. OK, go ahead.
- 3:03:00Oh, he does. Have.
- 3:03:01Housing. He lives in his mother's old
- 3:03:03condo with his aunt. We He does help his aunt out.
- 3:03:06She's 80 years old. She can't walk the best for
- 3:03:10large amounts of money. He does have to go through
- 3:03:12probate. For her, but.
- 3:03:13Again, he indicated that his sister has put some money into.
- 3:03:16His bank. He thinks.
- 3:03:20He's under the. Impression that she put about
- 3:03:22$1000. Which would cover.
- 3:03:26No then. I don't know what to tell him.
- 3:03:28It's his issue, it's his problem.
- 3:03:30I I don't know what to tell you. Did you make any calls and try
- 3:03:33to figure out a way to resolve this?
- 3:03:37My aunt that someone took her phone and I've been I've been
- 3:03:40trying to write her mail and I've read her wrote her about 5.
- 3:03:43Letters I've been. Trying to call my sister and
- 3:03:45last time I talked to her I was at the Groves Deal police
- 3:03:47station. She said she was going to put
- 3:03:48the money in the account so. It could be on my.
- 3:03:50ATM card right now I just haven't got access to it.
- 3:03:53I was waiting to see what happened here.
- 3:03:56I I'm pretty. Sure that she.
- 3:03:57Put the money in the account. Why did she I've?
- 3:04:04Got my ATM. Card here at the jail.
- 3:04:06That's the only way I can check it if I went to the.
- 3:04:07ATM I other than that I really have no other.
- 3:04:09I've got no other family, my mother, my sister and aunt.
- 3:04:19I mean, she's. Been she's been helping paying
- 3:04:20all the bills. I'm pretty sure she put the
- 3:04:22money in there. She's been paying all my phone
- 3:04:24bills. And out of the.
- 3:04:25Trust and she's been paying the the tax figure.
- 3:04:28Out a way to get access to a phone to call her and find out I
- 3:04:31I've been. Calling her, she hasn't picked
- 3:04:33up. I keep trying to call her and I
- 3:04:34haven't haven't haven't ever picked up.
- 3:04:36I've tried her twice a day. Yes, if.
- 3:04:40If the ANAP was released this Wednesday or allowed, order has
- 3:04:48a day at poverty. I mean can I check?
- 3:04:51The ATM here and try to pay it from here.
- 3:04:54I mean I I. I'm pretty sure the money should
- 3:04:56be there. I don't.
- 3:04:57Think they're? Going to.
- 3:04:59Let him out to check they. Said they said I could pay the
- 3:05:04bail but I wasn't sure what to do so I just sat here.
- 3:05:07But I think there's money in the account, the ATM.
- 3:05:09If I can. Pull it out of here.
- 3:05:10I can pay the I can try to see if the money's there.
- 3:05:12You don't have a bond. In this case, I gave you a
- 3:05:15personal bond on May the 6th. What are you?
- 3:05:17What else is he being held in? Heather?
- 3:05:23Did we not change the bond on May the 6th from PR from 6010%
- 3:05:29to APR bond? Oh, I.
- 3:05:31Didn't know that was. There, yes, we did.
- 3:05:33Judge. So they kept holding.
- 3:05:36They never. Just let me, let me talk to
- 3:05:39somebody for a second. Did we?
- 3:05:41Did we? Did we submit a new paperwork on
- 3:05:44the 6th? We.
- 3:05:47Should Yes, we should. Have we sent paperwork over?
- 3:05:54Does he have any other holes that you know of?
- 3:05:58Not that I know of. Heather, I don't see where we
- 3:06:08sent in another, another minimus.
- 3:06:12Looks like I printed one. Do you have?
- 3:06:16Somebody for just three O 4. Does he have any other cases
- 3:06:21going on in this building? Not.
- 3:06:23Not that I can see. Let me run.
- 3:06:25Let me pull up his. Name.
- 3:06:26Again on another screen here. On the Wayne.
- 3:06:29County sheriff's side. No.
- 3:06:33It just says. He's. 100,000.
- 3:06:46Dollars. Don't have?
- 3:06:49Environment as personal, but it's in here.
- 3:06:53I set 6010% on May 1. May 6th I reduced it to 6000 PR.
- 3:07:00All. Right.
- 3:07:01The court may want to put it over and then if he's a.
- 3:07:03If the Vegas are going to allow. Him to check the ATM and then
- 3:07:06that way he would be able to tell.
- 3:07:08The court who's the money is on who's?
- 3:07:09Diana Burke again my. Mom that passed away in
- 3:07:12December. She passed away almost two years
- 3:07:15ago, December 2nd and. You took, you took away, you
- 3:07:20took her vehicle. This was.
- 3:07:23Someone stole it from me in Detroit and they never, Detroit
- 3:07:25never made a police. Report about it.
- 3:07:27I always and there's even. Precedence.
- 3:07:28I brought. I brought.
- 3:07:29Her car back a bunch. To go to the police even pulled
- 3:07:31me over and took the. License plate off.
- 3:07:32I always brought her car and. Brought it back someone.
- 3:07:34Took it from me. And I got.
- 3:07:35It I they gave me unlawful driving away.
- 3:07:39I wasn't. Going to risk my inheritance
- 3:07:40over a car. I.
- 3:07:44Mean I'm I'm 50, almost 51. I've never had history of
- 3:07:47stealing anything and this comes out of nowhere.
- 3:07:49I've never I've been a thief in my life and I've never been a
- 3:07:52violent person. All right.
- 3:07:54I'm sorry. Give me one second.
- 3:07:57My You already served 90 days plus this since May 1.
- 3:08:04You've been in custody since May 1.
- 3:08:06Is that right? Yes, Sir.
- 3:08:06I. Was before May when I was in
- 3:08:08Girls Deal for two days I was all all.
- 3:08:10Right. And I initially gave you 90
- 3:08:13days. Yes, I served those last year or
- 3:08:18this year in the fall, in the summer of the summer.
- 3:08:24Well, that's. Enough.
- 3:08:40Here's. What I'll do Heather, let's make
- 3:08:44sure we went over the paperwork on the on this case.
- 3:08:48We're going to you're to pay 785.
- 3:08:51I'm talking about in the attempt you unlawful use you're to pay
- 3:08:56785 or serve 112 days credit 112 one credit 112 days.
- 3:09:02So you don't have to pay that anymore.
- 3:09:04I'm releasing you then on the drug paraphernalia, Sir. 21 days
- 3:09:08deal. Credit 21.
- 3:09:10Well, we're going to release you.
- 3:09:12I hope you get your life in order, Sir.
- 3:09:14I really do. Good.
- 3:09:16Good luck to you. Thank.
- 3:09:18You, I'm going to get my life in.
- 3:09:19Order, Sir. Thank you very much.
- 3:09:20You're. Welcome.
- 3:09:22Thank you, Jess. You have beeno.
- 3:09:24All right, friends, that will do it for today.
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