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Are we the baddies? | Maintaining Frame 131 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name
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  Speaker 1: is Brian here with Allison, and this is maintaining frame
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  Speaker 1: number one thirty one. Are we the baddies where we
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  Speaker 1: will be responding to a cut a patron request?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean the thing is that the patrons
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  Speaker 2: give me a lot of suggestions and I choose one
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  Speaker 2: and then we do it. And yeah, it's very appreciated
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  Speaker 2: and completely on an unrelated note. Usually they help us
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  Speaker 2: out for the fundraiser. I'm just saying that it's completely unrelated. Boy,
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  Speaker 2: that sounded not suspicious at all, I know, right, all right,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, so I'm just making sure everything's working. It
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  Speaker 1: looks like it says. Yeah. So this is a video
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  Speaker 1: by I guess he was, you know, a pretty big
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  Speaker 1: or prominent atheist YouTuber back in the day. He's got
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  Speaker 1: about a eight hundred thousand subs so still you know,
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  Speaker 1: nothing to sneeze at named dark Matter twenty five, twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: and I think he's facing a bit of a conundrum.
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  Speaker 1: But but I mean that could that's a sort of
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  Speaker 1: a secondary discussion. But essentially he made a video called
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  Speaker 1: why I Stopped being anti woke and this was well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if who's the person who put this
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  Speaker 1: through is it's great indoors.
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  Speaker 2: Uh No, it was actual Richard Berre who made this.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, it was Richard Beerre that put this. Did did
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  Speaker 1: he have like I'm just curious because I kind of
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  Speaker 1: want to know like how I should come at this discussion,
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  Speaker 1: Like did he say like why he wants us to
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  Speaker 1: talk about this, like what what his what his thinking
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  Speaker 1: on it is?
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  Speaker 2: Or if he wants No, No, I'm Richard beer often
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  Speaker 2: doesn't elaborate. It's it's great indoors because he's so Dutch.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, I need you to do this and.
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  Speaker 1: This it's not Richard Bierre. It's great Indoors.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, it wasn't it was it was Richard Bierre.
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying that Richard Bierre tends to not elaborate, not
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  Speaker 2: really get too much, just be like, hey, here's something
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  Speaker 2: you could respond to without much commentary. It's great indoors
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  Speaker 2: that does the significant amount of contextual information about what
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  Speaker 2: specifically he thinks comments. Yeah, so it's a it's a
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  Speaker 2: bit of a different style. It's you, We're I guess
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  Speaker 2: we're just whatever we want The overall discussion is whether
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  Speaker 2: or not we should I guess, be opposed to woke.
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  Speaker 1: Correctly, he's basically making the claim that he is no
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  Speaker 1: longer opposed to woke, which implies that he once was.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that one way to look at this
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  Speaker 1: before we jump in is that people are saying woke,
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  Speaker 1: but they're really just talking about feminism as it just
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  Speaker 1: basically gets applied in the broader in the broader lexicon.
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  Speaker 1: Like you take like the framework that feminism created and
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  Speaker 1: you see the success of that, and then people go, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: what if we took that and we applied it in
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  Speaker 1: this other way? And then you that's where you get
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  Speaker 1: intersectional feminism, which is still feminism, right, just intersectional, and
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  Speaker 1: you end up with the more simplified version of that,
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  Speaker 1: which is called woke.
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  Speaker 2: Intersectional feminism basically is just creating a hierarchy. Women are
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  Speaker 2: still well above men, well above all them because eventually
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  Speaker 2: every category of men in the intersectional hierarchy is considered
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  Speaker 2: to be the man of their respective group, the white
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  Speaker 2: men of their respective group. So it's all just feminism.
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  Speaker 1: I've been saying that for years, like ever since intersectionality happened.
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  Speaker 1: When when Black Lives Matter was going on in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty and they're burning cities town and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I just went to the website and they they they're
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  Speaker 1: they're feminists. I mean, it's a feminist movement. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: did that. We went to the website. We looked at.
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  Speaker 2: The well before the Black Lives Matter Summer of Love.
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  Speaker 1: And we yeah, before that, before that, Yes, it was
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  Speaker 1: like around the Michael Brown Trayvon Martin days and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we've been saying it for the whole time. Now it's
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  Speaker 1: basically become so like commonly used these days, you know, wokeism,
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  Speaker 1: not intersectionality. I think intersectionality as a term is like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's more academic. People don't use it in
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  Speaker 1: their day to day. But when they say woke, that's
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  Speaker 1: what they're talking about. The term about intersectional feminism, fourth
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  Speaker 1: wave feminism, which is the current feminism we're in right now.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, so when Dark Matter twenty twenty five says
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  Speaker 1: he is stopping being anti woke, he's basically saying I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a feminist again. Whether he knows it or not,
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  Speaker 1: but I think he does. I think on some level,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of these guys it's really hard to let
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  Speaker 1: that go. And I don't mean feminism itself. I mean
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  Speaker 1: like the the identity, Yeah, the identity of judging yourself.
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  Speaker 2: In terms of protecting and providing what a surprise. Men
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  Speaker 2: have trouble letting that go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well women do too, because it's in their own interests.
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  Speaker 1: But like, definitely, you know it's it, and that's the
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  Speaker 1: thing he's he would have to reject the foundation on
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  Speaker 1: which feminism was built. So it's not even really feminism.
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  Speaker 1: There's like something deeper that has to be challenged. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: so this video is called why I Stopped being Andy Woke.
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  Speaker 1: I got some time codes. We grab my notepad here
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  Speaker 1: there's some somebody spamming me, oh pro Israel, asking for
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  Speaker 2: and uh, let's get started.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So first he's going to try to define woke,
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  Speaker 1: so we know, for you always got to start with
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  Speaker 1: definding your terms. And well, I think that's worthy of
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  Speaker 1: some discussions. I'm gonna play this clip.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, is being woke good or bad? Well, it depends
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  Speaker 4: greatly on what you mean by woke. Now, I've scoured
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  Speaker 4: the internet for a consistent definition of woke, and what
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  Speaker 4: I found was that perception of what the term stands
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  Speaker 4: for is very clearly demarketed along political affiliation. Left leaning
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  Speaker 4: people tend toward an approximation of the first definition in
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  Speaker 4: Webster's dictionary, which is quote aware of and actively attentive
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  Speaker 4: to important societal facts and issues, especially issues of racial
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  Speaker 4: and social justice, while right leaning. People tend towards the
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  Speaker 4: second definition quote politically liberal or progressive, as in matters
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  Speaker 4: of racial and social justice, especially in a way that
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  Speaker 4: is considered unreasonable or extreme.
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  Speaker 2: Un Okay, what is?
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  Speaker 1: What is? What is? What does it mean to you? Alison?
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  Speaker 2: Well, honestly, there's one thing to be concerned about issues
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  Speaker 2: of progressive justice, and there's another thing to be inching
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  Speaker 2: towards criminalizing your fellow man and regarding them as a
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  Speaker 2: problem that needs to be corrected. And the other thing
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  Speaker 2: is that I notice that anyone with a shred of power,
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  Speaker 2: institutional power, that's media corporation's government, will use these terms
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  Speaker 2: in order to offload their responsibilities onto their employees and
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  Speaker 2: their customers. I don't know if you've you've noticed that.
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  Speaker 2: And while I suspect that they have no genuine interest
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  Speaker 2: in being progressive in caring about anyone, and if they do,
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  Speaker 2: their interest is in caring about the smallest sub section
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  Speaker 2: of the population in order to justify not caring about
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  Speaker 2: and actively prosecute, persecuting, and blaming the largest amount of
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  Speaker 2: people possible. So to me, to my mind, woke has
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  Speaker 2: nothing to do with actually helping people. I think people
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  Speaker 2: are helped by strong individual rights. Okay, woke has everything
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  Speaker 2: to do with criminalizing your fellow men and encouraging or
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  Speaker 2: even supporting further and further government intrusion over individual rights
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  Speaker 2: and destruction of individual rights. So to me, woke is
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  Speaker 2: basically using the collective to destroy the individual. And at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, we're all individuals, right, We
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  Speaker 2: are all individuals, so that when we buy into these
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  Speaker 2: collective collective ideologies and buy into the idea that we
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  Speaker 2: give up our individual rights in order to in order
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  Speaker 2: to save abstractions, we are all degrading everybody's position in society,
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  Speaker 2: including the people we supposedly are helping. So I would
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  Speaker 2: say that WOKE is basically using these collective ideas of victimhood,
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  Speaker 2: collective ideas of guilt to erode individual liberties. But individual
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  Speaker 2: liberties are what protect us ultimately, all of us. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So that's my opinion, that's the way I'm seeing it used.
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  Speaker 2: Now he might be talking about the definition itself. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you could look at the words definition and say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: it's advocacy for these different groups of people that are
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  Speaker 2: allegedly marginalized except for men.
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  Speaker 1: Statistically, exactly what he did he said, he just went
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  Speaker 1: to Webster's dictionary, and basically he's saying, these people say
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  Speaker 1: this thing, and these people say this thing, and they're
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  Speaker 1: both in the dictionary and they're and I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe he's going to say they're both wrong and I'm
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  Speaker 1: floating above everything, or he's going to side with one,
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  Speaker 1: probably the first definition, because he's abandoning being anti woke. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's just going with the dictionary definition. So that's basically
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  Speaker 1: the equivalent of going to Wikipedia to get your facts.
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  Speaker 1: So m hmm, whatever that's worth.
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  Speaker 2: So, I mean, I think there's the definition that I mean, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: you could use the Nazi definition of national socialism and
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  Speaker 2: it would just be advocacy for the interests of the
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  Speaker 2: German people. And yet how it's applied is actually really critical.
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  Speaker 2: So we can go with the dictionary definition of woke,
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  Speaker 2: but how it's applied tends to be really critical, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: If it's applied in a divisive manner to justify the
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  Speaker 2: destruction of individual liberties, that really becomes more about what
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  Speaker 2: it does than what it is, and what it does
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  Speaker 2: is apparently horrible. So okay, let's uh, yeah, that's what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying he has stuck on what it is or
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  Speaker 2: what it's defined as. Yeah, but what does it do?
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  Speaker 1: Like, well, that's the thing he's trying to He's trying
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  Speaker 1: to crush the opposition to it, which is essentially trying
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  Speaker 1: to crush opposition to intersectional feminism. But what I would
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  Speaker 1: say woke is, in another way of describing it is
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  Speaker 1: simply critical consciousness, which is like, one of the things
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  Speaker 1: that these people do is they try to, like these progressives,
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  Speaker 1: they try to say, well, what is woke? And if
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  Speaker 1: you can't define it, then they will just call it
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  Speaker 1: a dunk and say they won. So I think it's
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  Speaker 1: a very simple thing to say. It's critical consciousness, which
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  Speaker 1: means it refers to the process of becoming aware of
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  Speaker 1: and critically examining the social economic structures that shape one's thoughts, beliefs,
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  Speaker 1: and actions. It involves recognizing the ways in which ideology,
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  Speaker 1: particularly false consciousness. False consciousness is considered by the people
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  Speaker 1: who engage in critical consciousness as sort of like the
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  Speaker 1: mainstream consciousness. You know, concepts like human rights, property rights, masculinity, femininity,
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  Speaker 1: family children, owning your own business, whatever it is, those
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  Speaker 1: are all false consciousness because they are, even though they
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  Speaker 1: are what we want to, you know, sort of demonstrate.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't go along with the critical consciousness, which is
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  Speaker 1: essentially designed as a tool of revolution to divide us
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  Speaker 1: and to basically look at make us look at the
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  Speaker 1: world in terms of power dynamics and power structures and
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  Speaker 1: who has it and who doesn't, Which is why feminism
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  Speaker 1: is so effective, because it always places men as the
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  Speaker 1: people with the most agency, the most power, and the
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  Speaker 1: most desire to dominate over women. And they cannot they
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  Speaker 1: cannot let that go. And I guarantee you that dark
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  Speaker 1: Matter twenty five twenty five is one of those people.
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  Speaker 1: So false consciousness refers to the ways in which members
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  Speaker 1: of the proletariat or whatever the oppressed class unwittingly misperceive
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  Speaker 1: their real position in society and systematically misunderstand their genuine
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  Speaker 1: interests within the social relations of production under you know,
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  Speaker 1: whatever the system is, patriarchy, capitalism, white supremacy, et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: This false consciousness is reinforced by the dominant ideology, which
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  Speaker 1: naturalizes and legitimates the existence of social classes and the
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  Speaker 1: exploitation of the working class by the dominant or oppressing class.
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  Speaker 1: So what that is woke in simplistle, in the in,
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  Speaker 1: in its simple, simplistic form, its critical consciousness, and that's it.
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  Speaker 1: So when he says, I challenge you to define it,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, that's it. I'm not even I didn't even
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  Speaker 1: go to the Webster's dictionary. You just like read, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like Theodore Ordorno, you know, Hagel whatever. There's there's plenty
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  Speaker 1: of shit, bell hooks, it's everywhere, you know. So anyway, okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's go. Let's let's uh yeah, let me even make
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  Speaker 1: sure I'm going to the time codes now, so uh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's more to this one. So let me just turn
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  Speaker 1: off our things so we don't interrupt, and I'll play
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  Speaker 1: another thirty now.
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  Speaker 4: It originally meant the first definition, but throughout recent political discourse,
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  Speaker 4: the term was co opted and turned into the second
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  Speaker 4: definition in order to disparage.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it didn't know, nobody changed the definition. What happened
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  Speaker 1: was the first definition became so obnoxious that now when
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  Speaker 1: you just say woke, it just makes it. It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: It's not like people said we're gonna co opt this
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  Speaker 1: term and make it mean something different. They just saw
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  Speaker 1: the outcome. It's like feminism. Let's let's say feminists, because
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  Speaker 1: some people get like hung up on like using the
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  Speaker 1: right word. Let's just use feminism as as another term.
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  Speaker 1: He's basically saying, feminism used to mean, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: equality of the sexes, and now it's a disparaging term
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  Speaker 1: because it's been co opted. No, it hasn't been changed.
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  Speaker 1: It's just that now when you say feminism, if it
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  Speaker 1: annoys people, there's reason for it, you know. It's like that,
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  Speaker 1: So like there's there's actually a change in people's reaction
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  Speaker 1: to feminism because now we know what it really means,
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  Speaker 1: and that's why we're annoyed. We didn't change it, we
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  Speaker 1: didn't co opt it. That's like men's rights activists actually
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  Speaker 1: did the same thing in the opposite direction. The feminists
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  Speaker 1: labeled us MRAs because they wanted to use it as
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  Speaker 1: a pejorative and they thought that the concept of someone
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  Speaker 1: who advocated for the rights and legal protections and fairness
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  Speaker 1: of men was so absurd and ridiculous that they were like,
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  Speaker 1: we'll just call them what they are and that'll be hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: And they did, and then we were like okay, and
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  Speaker 1: we just went with it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that there was two responses to it. One response was,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, I can't believe in this patriarchy that
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  Speaker 2: puts the rights of men. First, you've called me the
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  Speaker 2: very worst thing you can which is somebody who puts
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  Speaker 2: the rights of men in any position at all cares
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  Speaker 2: about them at all, like amazingly. And so there was
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  Speaker 2: a huge portion of people who just fled. They just
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  Speaker 2: were like, oh, no, I can't he they're calling us,
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  Speaker 2: they're calling us concerned about the rights of men. We
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  Speaker 2: got a flee, you know. And then there were just
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  Speaker 2: a hard, stubborn corps who are like, we don't care
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  Speaker 2: what you call us, call us what you want. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to continue to advocate for the concerns of men,
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  Speaker 2: for male victims of domestic violence, false accusations, sexual assault,
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  Speaker 2: you know, for issues in the family court that men face,
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  Speaker 2: and conscription and all of this other stuff. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to advocate for these issues and it doesn't matter what
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  Speaker 2: you call us. That that's essentially the difference, like oh yeah, yea,
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  Speaker 2: that identity. It just reflects people who are absolutely stubborn
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  Speaker 2: about advocating for these issues and aren't going to be
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  Speaker 2: scared away by what feminists call us.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, right, And well, The thing is is that like
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  Speaker 1: there it seems to be a fixation on this particular
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  Speaker 1: term woke right that he's trying to respond to. But
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  Speaker 1: the truth is is that none of these things get like.
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  Speaker 1: There isn't like a secret society of people that basically
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  Speaker 1: take a term and say we're going to repurpose this,
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  Speaker 1: and then they repurpose it and then it, like the
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  Speaker 1: branding gets damaged. What happened is you can still find
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  Speaker 1: people who have made songs about wokeness in using the
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  Speaker 1: first definition, because at the time they saw it as
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  Speaker 1: a self righteous, like you know, morally good thing, and
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  Speaker 1: then the reality of their beliefs came out and people
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  Speaker 1: started calling it what it is, just like men's rights activists,
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  Speaker 1: just like feminists, and then people saw the truth of it,
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  Speaker 1: and the only reason why they backed off of the
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  Speaker 1: woke label is because it wasn't good for their brand.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I've always I've often said that the
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  Speaker 1: culture war that we're in is ultimately a marketing war,
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  Speaker 1: and the marketing tools keep changing because you know, these people,
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  Speaker 1: their beliefs don't change, they don't compromise, they're very aggressive,
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  Speaker 1: they're very hostile. Their entire framework is upside down, and
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  Speaker 1: yet they think that they can win by just rebranding shit.
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  Speaker 1: That's why they go with third you know, new waves
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  Speaker 1: of feminism come out, New terms for patriarchy come out
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  Speaker 1: called curiochy, new terms for you know, their progressive communist
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  Speaker 1: ideals come out. They have words like tanky and they
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  Speaker 1: have social democrat, and they have you know, woke, and
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  Speaker 1: they have progressive. But like their actions and beliefs are
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  Speaker 1: the same. And so what happens is after a while,
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  Speaker 1: we just call it whatever they're calling it, and they're like, well,
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  Speaker 1: that's not good for our brand. It must be your fault.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, no, yeah, you.
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  Speaker 2: Haven't changed, like criticize it, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We're just calling out what you're doing and criticizing it.
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  Speaker 1: Like they've done that. They've tried to do the same
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  Speaker 1: thing with men's rights activists. They've done it with in cell,
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  Speaker 1: they've done it with Christian they've done it with men.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they've done it with conservative like they've they've
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: taken terms and they've turned them into pejoratives too. But
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: the difference is how you react to that branding, right
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: do you do you recoil and say we got to
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: change it. We got to we need a new word
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: or do you just say, yeah, I guess that's what
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I am. So what I mean? You know?
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: You know, like in cells, like they're just calling everybody
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: that they're calling married men with families in cells, they're
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: just using it, you know, because.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: If you think about it, the term has changed so much. Well,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: essentially it was just feminist, women's livers feminists, and then
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: it became PC woke or no sorry PC social justice
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: and now woke, and they keep changing the term. They
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: keep changing it, whereas everybody they attack, like men's rights
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: activists have not changed what we call ourselves in like decades,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: you know, we haven't changed maybe we like when I
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: talk about men's issues advocates, I try to be like,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: because some of these things aren't about rights, they're about
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: issues that men face. And then some people don't want
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: to be called an activist because they're not or are
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: doing they're not activizing, so that if you feel like,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: so it's men's issues advocates or men's rights advocates, but
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: the names are all what we do, and yet they
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: keep hiding behind all of these euphemisms, and when somebody
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: comes out and starts calling them out for their aggressive,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: predatory and bullying behavior and their discrimination against half the
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: human race. They they run away into a new name.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: It's like a corporate shell game. You know how corporations
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: have multiple names so you don't know who to sue.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's very deceitful behavior.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Oh exactly, it's like shell It's like shell identities, you know,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: when you corner them on somebody like no, no, I'm
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: not a tanky, I'm not I'm not a stalinist, I'm
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: a maoist or whatever. It's like you're just you're just
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: moving the pieces around. But I can see it in
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: your behavior and what you do. Right, it's your behavior.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying. The name doesn't like, the definition
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It's what they do. Mm hmm okay, and
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: they understand it, like, uh okay. So the definition of
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: cop is someone who a policeman is someone who upholds
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: the piece? Is that is that what police always do? Like? Right, Yeah,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: there's a difference there. It's not always the definition. It's
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: what these individuals who are attracted to these concepts do.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: And like I said, it is bullying. It is often deceitful.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: It is exclusionary. It's extremely archaic. It's like creating this
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: moral hierarchy and excluding people based on it, excluding people
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: from the right to speak. So we're somehow going back
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: and constructing a moral hierarchy place based on people's ancestry.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Is an advancement. No, that's like cast systems in aristo
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: aristocracy and religions of old. Like, that's not a movement
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: towards anything new. It is a movement towards visiting the
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: sins of the father and the son, which is something
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: that we I think we dealt with like two cent
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: two millennium ago. We're gonna reverse to BC behavior Like
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: what the hell? Okay, anyway, so let's keep going.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: All right, let's fly. I just jumped ahead a bit,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: so let's jump to this next time.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Your groups.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: It's a basis for madness. When people say the gay community,
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: who are you talking about? It's like women think this,
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: oh really, fifty percent of the species all agree on something,
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: Blacks say this.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Really, and some defined it as the perfect opposite. Being
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: restricted from assigning viewpoints to entire groups.
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: People always ask what is the definition of woke? Well,
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: the definition of woke as I mentioned in the book,
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: is the making sacred of historically marginalized race, gender, and
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: sexual identity groups.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Now that last, well, how is that? Okay?
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Are saying that these things are contradictory.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Somehow things are not contrad Okay, let's go back again
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: and listen to them again.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to go back.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: To why right to my face?
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Douglas Murray talking to Jordan Peterson here, Yeah, play,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I think if I play it from here, it's okay,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Kevin Dy, who are you talking about?
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: It's like women think this, Oh, reallymen.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Experience this Black people experience, but that translates into them
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: thinking and then well it's not really women. They it's
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: white men. Let's be honest. Who they're saying. They know
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: what they think. It's black and women who experience certain
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: things as a result of white men's intentions and motivations,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: which intersectionality keeps you gives you a complete clear window
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: into and ability to judge like they essentially what they're
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: saying is black people and white or sorry, black people, Well,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: black women and white women have this experience and they
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: have this experience because of these motivations by white men.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: These motivations and thinking and logic by white men. So
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: the intersectional stack somehow makes them telepathic and able to
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: read white men's minds, see what I'm saying, Yeah, and
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: impune their motives. Okay, but anyway, that's a little bit
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: of an aside.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Well, but I think he's saying, essentially, these people speak
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: for large groups of people. So when he says, as
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: women think this, he's saying that these people speak for
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: women as a group like half of the population or
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: whatever the group happens to be in the moment. But anyway,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: let's I'm just trying to clarify things.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, far enough. Yeah, so he's
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: basically yeah.
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah, uh, blacks say this really, and some defined it
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: as the perfect opposite, being restricted from assigning viewpoints to
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: entire groups.
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: People always ask, what is the definition of woke? Well,
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: the definition of woke, as I mentioned in the book,
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: is the making sacred of historically marginalized race, gender, and
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: sexual identity groups.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: That's okay, okay, all right, how did he come to that.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Conclusion that these are opposites?
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, because one is saying, well, I mean, honestly,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: one is saying that you can't say you can't speak
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: for an entire group, and that he's not saying that,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: saying that you can't speak for an entire group is woke. Right,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: he's saying that's not woke. He's saying not speaking saying Okay,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: well I can't speak for an entire group is the
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: opposite of woke. And now he's saying that this guy
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: who is defining woke is defining it in the opposite
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: of this guy who's defining the opposite of woke.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean, well, okay, he popped.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Open this man's skull with they're just steaming oatmeal.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: In Does anybody know who this guy is on the screen,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: because I know who he is, but I can't remember
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: his name. He's written books about this stuff. So Douglas
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Murray in the previous kit clip was basically talking about
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: how astounding it is that you have people who are
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: part of the progressive, intersectional feminist left that are basically
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: saying I I speak for group X, Right, they're basically,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: you know, treating them as a monoliths a monolith and yeah,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: speaking for them or at least And that's part of
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: the thing that I read before, where you know, if
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: you are a part of that monolith that they're speaking for,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: but you don't have the right ideas, it's because you
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: have false consciousness. That's what I was saying when I
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: read about critical consciousness is about making people become conscious
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: or awake or woke about the way of the world. Right,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: It's like, it's like this this it's like this secret
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: that only these people have, and they're trying to wake
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: you up to it. That's what woke means, Okay, And
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: so if you don't have the appropriate consciousness, then you're
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: not woke, but you are deserving to be made awake,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: made aware of this stuff. So when Douglas Murray is
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: talking about it's people who are saying this is what
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: women are supposed to feel. I mean, they'll say that
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: they do because it's trying to gaslight women that might
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: be watching. You know, that's what the purpose of all
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: that is, right, Like in the Barb movie, when America
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Ferrera does that, you know rant that everyone loves so
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: much well women do about how hard it is to
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: be a woman. It's a gaslighting tactic to make other
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: women who may not have thought about that too much
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: think about it and say, oh, yeah, you know what,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I do feel insufficient in every possible way. She must
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: be onto something. It's intended to try to raise or
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: you know, raise I put in quotes because it's just gaslighting,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: but a woman's consciousness or awareness of their own victimhood.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: And if they don't absorb that internalize that, then it fails. Right,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: But that's what the attempt is. Now. I don't think
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: that Douglas Murray's conception and this guy is this who
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: is this guy? I'm sorry I don't remember, but I
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: don't believe that these are our opposites. I think this
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: guy is basically sort of reinforcing that because he's saying
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: it's making the sacred, making sacred marginalized groups. So when
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: so in order to do that, though, you do, you
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: have to make them into a monolith. So you say,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: all black people need my help. I'm going to make
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: them sacred. I'm going to advocate for them and for them.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: But in order for me to do that, I have
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: to basically tell you what they believe or what their
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: experience is.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, but my point is that he's taking a man
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: who is saying this is the opposite of woke, which
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: it was essentially, well, he's describing the opposite of woke,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: or he is describing woke as being as speaking for everybody.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: So the opposite of woke is saying, well, you know,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: you can't speak for everyone in a gigantic group, right, Yeah,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: And he's comparing that with this guy who's saying making
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: sacred and not making like you were saying, not making
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: sacred every opinion of that group, but specifically making sacred
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: how that group and the people within that group that
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: support the intersectional system, right, you know, the intersectional hedgemeny
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: and so yeah, you're right, they're completely compatible, right, And
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: the fact is that he's saying that these are the opposite.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I don't understand the logic behind it.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to. Yeah, he's going to try and get
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: into it and the next okay, okay, so yeah, yeah,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: go ahead for you before you continue.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Now, one of the issues with all of this is
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: you have this logical system, or this this hegemonic system, intersectionality.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: And you're right, it does not advocate for every black
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: black person, only those black people who buy into the
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: intersectional framework, right. Any any black person who doesn't is
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: marginalized as having false consciousness. So it really has nothing
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: to do with advocating black people or white or women
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: unless you assume that all black people and all women
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: have the same opinions and have the same experts, and
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: then any woman who says no, I don't use silence.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: But what's interesting to me is it's using all of
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: these groups and it is removing any individual voice of
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: any individual within these groups that is outside the framework
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: of the intersectional hegemeny. And at the end of the day,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: the people who use the intersectional hegemeny are governments, media,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: and corporations to justify their overreach over the individual, if
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: you notice.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: The schools and schools to justify.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: To justify their control and their destruction of individual liberties.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: So it's really interesting because the thing is that somehow,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: during the time of our Lady the koof somehow those
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: groups who are minorities who were the most the least
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: receptive to some of the suggested medical interventions, shall we
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: say they were the least receptive, somehow they became white
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: supremacists using the powers of intersectionality. So you take something,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: you take an attitude that is held majority black, and
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: if it is against government academia, pharm a big pharma,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: the Department of Education. If it's against those big bodies
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: that control those black people suddenly become white supremacists, even
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: though white people are more likely to hold the opinion
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: than black people. Do you see what I'm saying? So,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: this is what I've noticed. If there is a situation
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: where black people hold an opinion and are more likely
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: to hold it and it is counter to any large
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: interests by these large institutions, and white people are more
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: likely to be Okay, yeah, that's fine. What do you
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: do you submit? They will say that the black people
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: are white supremacists. You see, they are literally using these
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: terms terms to silence all opposition, regardless of how ridiculous
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: it is, right yeah, okay, you know, And let me
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: use a really ridiculous example. Let's say we reinstitute slavery
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: and all black people are against it, but the corporations
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: are for it because white people would be for it.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Being against slavery would become white supremacy or sorry because
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: but because it benefits the corporations. They'll say being against
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: slavery is white supremacy. This is how they operate, right,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: They are determining what is acceptable speech and what are
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: acceptable positions. It has absolutely nothing to do with the
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: opinions of most black people. They will tell you your opinions
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: and if you don't.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Have those should be right, yes, And if.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: You don't have those opinions, you're a male supremacist. And
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: it's not just feminism, it's feminism is a mouthpiece for
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: forced consumption, force corporate consumption. It is a mouth piece
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: for corporate and government collusion.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Like they're just basically and redistribution of well and like.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: It's like wake up, guys, wake up.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Uh okay, so let's play some more.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: He's gonna get into his reasoning. I'm gonna turn off
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: our response things so that people can don't because the
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: thing is, if it's see if it switches scenes when
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: we talk, then the audio from the video it cuts out. Yeah,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: so anyway, let's go.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: That last clip is very interesting to me because he
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: admits something I don't think he intended to admit, and
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: the word sacred is what led him into his own trap.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: He talks about historically marginalized groups such as gender, race,
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: and sexual orientation as being sacred, in other words, unassailable, unable,
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: to blaspheme against. But here's my question, what legitimate criticism
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: or negative statement can be levied at an entire race,
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: or an entire gender, or an entire sexual orientation. Now,
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: if someone said, quote, the problem with black people is ABC,
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: or the problem with women is XYZ, wouldn't we immediately
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: recognize that as racists or sexist because you're shoehorning everyone
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: of those groups into a box of problems based on
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: mutable characteristics.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Patriarchy men are to blame. Like does he is he
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: absolutely against all of these these statements? No? No, so yes,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: he will continue to support those statements that support his
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: identity as a man, as the alphone omega of everybody,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: everybody's existence. But of course he'll question those statements if
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: they But that's not what this man is saying either.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: He's not saying that black people need to take responsibility
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: for the guest stalt black that comes out of all
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: of the black people, like that's ridiculous. He's saying, you
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: can't use this intersectional system to excuse the individual responsibility
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: of individual Black people on their individual actions. Likewise, for women,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: you cannot use this intersectionality to excuse the individual actions
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: of individual women, and that's that's what he's calling out.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Nobody is saying that black people need to take to
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: pay reparations for white people like or that women need
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: to take women need to pay reparations for matriarchy. Nobody's
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: saying is saying those things, but presumably saying people are
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: saying the reverse, and that's what's being called out. All right,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Like this is ridiculous, Like yeah, he's just straw manning.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I will say this too, because there is
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: this thing he's like, the problem with women or the
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: problem with black people. But what if there is a problem,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: but I would phrase it differently, Like what if I said,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: you know, what would fix the problems or most of
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the problems in the black population of the United States,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Which is not the same as saying the problem with
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: black people. You see, he's already like straw manning the
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: case because he's making it sound more inflammatory than it
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: needs to be. Because if I said, well, we need
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: to do something about the broken family and the fatherlessness
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: and the abortions and like, you know, all of these
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: other issues that are probably you know, the predecessors or
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: the progenitors for you know, real on the ground problems
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: that blacks in the in the in this country deal
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: with all the time, like gang violence and drug abuse
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: and so on. But if I were to say, well,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I want to fix this problem, but part of it
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: it's going to come down to black people taking some
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: responsibility or at least we've got to talk about that,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: he would say, well, isn't that racist? Though, So it's like, well,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: do we do we? Because that's the same thing with women.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: If I said, well, I don't want to put it,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't frame it as the problem with women, but
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I might say, you know, here's a problem that a
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: lot of modern women have in the dating space or
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: with you know, I don't know whatever it is with women. Yeah,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: but like that, And it's like, what if we want
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: to fix something that is a problem, why can't we
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: point out the problem like what that? Because because it's
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: racist a sexist, and like why doesn't like, I know,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: this guy like he's he's supposed to be really smart
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: because he's like fitting in front of his microphone calmly,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: you know, and like talking like very with big words
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: and no, and I look, it just irritates me because
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: this is just like big brain framing. But If he
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: hasn't even questioned whether or not the words sexist or
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: racist are useful when it comes to actually addressing shit,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: because that's part of this whole gaslighting thing. He's never
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: even questioned those things, then maybe you're just not at
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: the level that you think you are. I mean, maybe
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: your audience probably loves you. Probably they do, because they're
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: all there. They're just like, oh, I just want to
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: feel better than everybody else. This is just a different
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: kind of supremacy. It's just intellectual, top down supremacy. I'm
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: smarter than you guys. You are all dumb backwards hicks
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: that you know, I don't know, thump your bibles and
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: whatever whatever he thinks, right, but I'm the really smart
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: guy that doesn't hate women or black people, and I'm
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: going to tell you how you're a bad person. It's
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: just like, it's so dull.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it is a bit dull. But it's also confusing,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: because maybe confusing is the wrong word because he's doing
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: exactly what he's calling other people out. When you talk
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: about sexism, you are talking about men's culpability, let's be honest.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: And when you talking about racism, you're specifically talking about
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: white men's culpability. Let's be honest. So you are borg.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: If it's okay to borgafy, it's okay to collectivize as
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: long as it's directed at white CIS head men. You know,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: I would be fine if everybody just walked away from
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: the collective thinking and uh simply took people on an
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: individual basis. Now, that's a that's a lot of That
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: is a very high bar for when it comes to
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: the sexes. But but I mean, I would be fine
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: with that. I don't advocate the idea that all women
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: are in a conspiracy to oppress men. I don't that
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: that's realistic. But yet there are people out there who
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: genuinely believe that men are in some kind of conspiracy
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: to oppress women. They genuinely believe that about half the
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: human race. Are you gonna call these people out? Are
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: you going to continue to call out the people calling
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: them out? Yeah, and then you're gonna say, oh, well,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: I'm calling them out based on the fact that they're
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: going to say these universalizing statements about large portions of
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: the human race. How dare you call people out feminists
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: out for their universalizing statements about men. That's making a
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: universalizing statement about feminists HERP. But DRP.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Like you can't do that, you can't. Well, watch is
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: a monolith. It's one of the good monoliths.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Come and stop me.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like maybe Washington Monuments monolith whitelith. Okay,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: so let's play some more of this. Literally I jumped ahead,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: uh too, because he goes into this big like anecdote
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: about his life and I just don't care.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: What he cares.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: But yeah, he's gonna he's gonna point out like a hypocrisy.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: So let let's because that's what That's another thing these
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: people do is they love trying to like make you
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: look at a hypocrite and then they just slam the
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: mic down. Yeah done, you know, but let's let's continue.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: About laughing at anger. It was a movement about getting angry.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: Suddenly the rule that inspired you, mad Bra no longer applied.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: The rules changed when the offense changed. Now the winner
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: was whoever could get the most angry. But that was
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: still a.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I'm actually find uncomfortable to listen to him. Why he
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: just on some instinctive level, I'm like, this is a
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: guy to get the fuck away from. I don't know why, Like,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: it's just it's like, I'm like, I don't want to
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: leave now. I don't want to be in the same
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: room as this dude. There's just such a level of
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: subliminal hatred and anger and the things that he's saying.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I didn't.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Jump ahead enough. I'm sorry, go ahead.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: I'm just uh, I'm sorry. But that's just my that's
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: just a gut response.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: You just have. Yeah, you're just having a gut response.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: It's cool, all right, let me let let me deal
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: with my guy.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: This is the face of a billion thumbnails still used
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: on loads and memes to this day. Yep, have you
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: ever seen the source material? It's quite short.
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: It does not rapists coming into just because the refugees
• 46:40
  Speaker 8: isn't a rapist.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: You're rich in every free that's a that's.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: As that number keeps creeping higher. And it's not one three.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: It's one in three are stocked subject to domestic violence
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: and also sexual abuse. It's not rape. One and three
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: are raped, So that's incorrect.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: But the one in three statistic is bullshit anyways, because
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: it's based on the Merry Cost study, based on.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: The CDC, and it includes a whole raft of things,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: and if you actually look at mail, uh, the situation
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: for men, it's very similar. Despite the fact that feminists
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: are trying to make it invisibilize or reduced, make invisible
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: male victims, they're still finding like one in four in
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: terms of the same statistics. Like, so it's yeah, I mean,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: this context doesn't make her any better. She's somebody who's
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: minimizing the situation for ah.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: But here's what I think it's gonna reveal. It's gonna
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: probably reveal that dark matter twenty five. Twenty five believes
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: the one in five statistics believes in the rape culture
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: narrative that feminists perpetuate. So he's going to use this
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: to say, ha, this woman was actually talking about something real,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: and you're using her as a meme, aren't you the
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: stupid one? But the thing is that she's obviously being
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: used because she's been made to be angry and resentful
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: over data that has been, let's say, manipulated to make
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: her feel like unsafe. I mean, if if anything, men
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: are definitely in more danger, but the existence of risk
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: is not the same as your reaction to the world.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting he talks about how you're not supposed
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: to borgify, like you can't talk for an entire group
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: of people or condemn an entire group of people. He said,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: he's saying that, Well, what he's saying is that you
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: make sacred black people. And he's saying his interpretation of
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: that guy saying that will make sacred black people and
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: white people, let's just use women, make sacred women, is
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: that it prevents people from making universalizing criticisms of women, right,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: And he's saying, well, we would want to do that
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: a sexist right right here, When this woman says one
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: in three women are raped, which is not true, she
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: is making a creating a negative space. That's making a
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: universalizing negative statement about men. So that's okay, Right, This
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: isn't just oh, one in three women are raped by
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: persons unknown, No, this is one in three women are
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: raped by men. All men to blame or all men responsible.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: That's the next step in this.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Well, remember the context of this is they were talking
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: about I think this was about immigration or some you know,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: foreign foreigners that were you know, endangering I guess, or
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: at least there was a there was danger of foreigners
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: being violent or you know, sexually assaulty or whatever. And
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: this woman's counter to that because she's defending the brown guys, right,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: she's saying, well, the men at home are just as bad,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: so like there's no difference. It sort of like cancels
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: it out right. So this is like another way that
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: that feminists use this kind of these narratives to essentially
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: like push their own, you know, whatever their belief systems are,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: is to say, well, look, America, Western men are worse.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Remember we've we made a video about that, where you know,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: you have these The reason why the leftist narrative of
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: threatnarve around men is more effective than the sort of
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: conservative one is that conservative position is that the men
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: in those foreign countries over there are dangerous to women,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: but the feminist women are saying that the men at
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: home are dangerous to which is closer to home, which
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: makes it more effective. So and they're both wrong, they're
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: like it's all lies, But the point is is that
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: their lie is a more effective lie, and she is
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: evidence of that. She's actually demonstrating how effective that propaganda
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: is on you know, on these women.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: We don't have to care about the increased sexual violence
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: of a group of people because this other group of
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: people engages in sexual violence. It's bizarre logic, to be honest,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: and also it's not based on its premises are false.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you're made to fear, if you're
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: made to fear men, which men do you fear more?
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: The ones that are in another country that you'll probably
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: never visit are the ones that are like living in
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: your in your town.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: But unless they're immigrants, then you have to fear them.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: You can't fear them.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: No, then you can't fear them anymore? Right?
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which are Okay, let's.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Let's key, Yeah, let's play the rest of this.
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: This woman did not get triggered or belligerent or even
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: a fraction as excited or angry as any one of
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: us has ever been before.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, is that actually the Is that actually the the
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: entirety of the clip?
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, besides it's short, but I mean, like, so
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: what if she's not screaming.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: I didn't actually see the specific frame frame. Yeah, it's
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: interesting he chooses this one instead of all of the
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: other ones where they are genuinely Yeah, exactly.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I think Actually, I think Big Red is on more
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: memes than that woman is. But he just about the
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: chicks screaming at the sun when when Trump was being inaugurated,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: What about her? That's a that's a big one.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: You know, he chooses the one that might be one
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: one still where she looks like she's legitimately spitting venom.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: And the other thing is maybe she just calmed down
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: because these guys are like, hey, okay, like can we
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: take it down a notch. That doesn't mean she's not
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: responsible for that moment of looking like a demon. You know,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: if you don't want to have me become an Internet meme,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: don't go out in public and look like a demon.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Even if subsequently people calm you down, you still have
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: that one moment of looking like a freaking demon.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Like, what does he want us to do?
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Purge the Internet of the images of that woman because
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: she wasn't as triggered as it looked. I mean that
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter, like the press, the you know what, when
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: you overanalyze memes like that, right, I mean, like, what
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: are you doing?
• 53:52
  Speaker 9: Man?
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Like, what are you doing? I can see I.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Could see dark matter constructing like a fifty fifty thousand
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: words meme explaining to us all why this meme is
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: inappropriate and he could make it in the straight of
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: the woman looking like she's about to spit venom.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's go, let's keep going.
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: If you look at the common section, you'll see everyone
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: openly realizes it and admits it and feels bad for
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: how she was immortalized. She was the only one in
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: the argument actually offering statistics rather than emotions.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what was arguing. What how the
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: hell do you like? I couldn't even tell which position
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: these people held. And incidentally, she may be offering what
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: you think is statistics, but they were wrong. One and
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: three women are raped? No?
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: No, did she die? Image put on it? Did she
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: die from that? No? Why are we talking about it?
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: What about? What about Kyle written house when he was
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: in a courtroom crying and then and and lefties were
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: putting up pictures? Did he die? Yeah? It is a woman.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: It is a woman. I'm sorry. It's not the.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Same responsible for women. Oh, men are supposed to do,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: you know, protect women? They if you see a woman
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: doing something stupid, they need to divert their gaze or
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: they need to save her without touching her or telling
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: her what to do. You know, it's it's men. Need
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: to be responsible for women. I'm gonna hold men to
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: that standard, and I'm not gonna hold women to any
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: kind of standard. God, for you know, who cares of
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: all the women sharing the kyle rittenhouse? Me mocking him
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: for crying and then turning around and saying, why don't
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: men cry? Who cares about all of them? Who cares
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: about all of the men who become memes. That's not
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: what's important, Brian. What's important is that women are protected
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: and men protect those women and that. But that can't
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: we can't.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Recognize how many marriages do I have to do?
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: You have to do a billion? You can't recognize that
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: as having an effect on the greater world, Like we
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: have to hold men to higher standards of women's protection,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: but we can't recognize that we're doing so, And we
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: can't recognize that men are actually actually responding to being
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: held to those standards, because that might be an insult
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: towards women. Yep, oh, good lord, Like I said from
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: his skull, I'm guessing some steaming oatmeal.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: But he's dark Matter twenty five twenty five, the big
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: brain atheist guy that makes those really smart cartoons where
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: he points out hypocrises.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Well you would. I wish you would meditate a bit, because,
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: by God, just gives off such an aura of menacing anger,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: no offense. I generally don't get too concerned about angry men,
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: except when you can feel it just below the skin,
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Well, the point is to be a monster, but having
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: under control.
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: It's like it's like.
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: In what she made a funny face. Now her entire
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: existence is encapsulated by that.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, welcome to the Internet.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Oh my god, won't somebody think of
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: the women.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: Absurd? The anti s j W movement became when they
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: sought a fence, even a single frame was enough for
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: them to latch onto, was enough for them to convict
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: and condemn you. Suddenly around them you are condemned to.
• 57:51
  Speaker 9: Be a meme.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: What what is he? Okay, so this is you know
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: what he's doing here, right? I know he's using big words,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: sound really smart, but all he's saying is I'm not
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: mad you are. That's all he's saying. Oh he's saying
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: something you mad, bro. He's saying you mad bro. Because like,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: essentially people saw that interaction and then, by the way,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: when that was going on. There were lots of videos
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: of like feminists losing their shit in public or arguing
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: with people in public about stuff and not making ridiculous
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: claims like one in three women. That's a ridiculous claim.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: That's not a statistic, that is a ridiculous crme like
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: it like if one in three women was true, Okay,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to drive from my house to
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: the food line down the street without seeing a rape.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: That's that's how absolutely insane it is. Like you know,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: the rape capital of the world, which is the Congo.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: I think that even those numbers are way lower than
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: one in three. Even there, you wouldn't see it that often.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: But this woman spits that ridiculous statistic and Dark Matter
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: twenty five twenty five, the one billion IQ super atheist,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: he doesn't even think that that's ridiculous. He's the well
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: that sounds like data. So I'm just gonna support it.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: And when and when people take all of these clips
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: and they make memes out of it, because essentially, it's
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: not because we're mad, bro, it's because we think you're
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: ridiculous and we're clowning you and you don't know how
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: to react, so your whole thing is you must be mad. No,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: it's not hard to make fun of you because you
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: have ridiculous beliefs about the world, about reality, and that's
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: all it is. So nobody's mad And I'm sorry, but
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: the only thing that makes me mad is that you
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: pretend as though you're saying something profound because you're like
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: sitting in front of a mic with a lot of followers.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: Your ego, my friend, is way out of control. I'm sorry,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: I'll just go ahead.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Well, I was just gonna say, I think it goes
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: beyond the you, mad bro. I believe chaos for you.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: Seven twenty eight. He said my queen, I must protect
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: my queen. Yes, he is essentially saying that the anti
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: woke is bad because a man, a woman became a
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: meme unfairly. She was unfairly memed, despite the fact all
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: the men who get unfairly memed bye, also by the
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: people who are on the other side. This is evidence. This,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: this felony meming is evidence that the anti woke side
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: needs to be disbanded. They need to pack up their
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: ship and go like no, no.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: I also believe in science.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's go, let's listen.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Let me, let me check the time here, let me see.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Send in those super chows due the just the tip.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody sent anything in yet. Yeah, I guess you
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: guys don't really Philly strong feel strongly about this particular.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Everybody's just like, yeah, that's true, all.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: Right, pon the thinnest of eggshells. What's especially funny about
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: this meme is that the source material originally came from
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: the Alex Jones channel, And we all know how calm
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: and collected Alex Jones is.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my friend. That is righteous anger. I don't
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: know what you're talking about, so you can take that
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: and shove it.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Is this? Is this the entirety of his argument?
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you mean, I will eat your ash.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: Memes exist women most affected, Thank you for your contradition.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: It's funny too. It's funny too because Alex Jones, Alex
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Jones is a massive meme. Is he not heard about it?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Is he angry? Should we protect Alex Jones from his
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: own memes like the woman, the feminist woman, because he's
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: saying that it's not fair that we treated her that way.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: And then he goes on the show and Alex Jones
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: meme essentially of him yelling you know and he thinks
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: that that's like a counter It's like, wait, but but
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: Alex Jones has been memed way more than that woman has. Dude,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: does he need protecting? Is anybody gonna protect Alex Jones?
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Anybody protect un uncle Alex? Okay, anyway, this is out Yeah,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Alex Jones out of context obviously, but like he's playing
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: a character and that's okay.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: The anti woke had become obsessive, hypocritical, lacked self awareness
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: and incredibly easily.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: What are you talking easily? Oh my god, It's it's
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: like it's no, it's no you. That's his whole video,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: no you know you?
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: And also memes exist when and most affected, Like, is
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: this the entirety of his damn argument?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 9: Uh?
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: What is his argument? Shall people stop criticizing woke? Like
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: because the people on the internet found a funny still
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: and memed it, Like, so I am supposed to stop
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: criticizing the march of this collectivism into the destruction of
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: individual liberties in order to support basically a corporate agenda,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: a corporate government collusive agenda. I'm supposed to stop criticizing
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: this because some woman got memed Okay, can we apply
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: that to like immigration, If one woman gets raped by
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: or graped by an immigrant, does that mean we have
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: to reverse the whole thing? Graping is a bit worse.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Than meaning, Well, I think that. Well, let's play some
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: more of it. I I think I know what's going on,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: and yeah I do, I do, But let's let's let's.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: Keep going today. The Anita Sarkesian business model is extremely
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: successful in the opposite direction. She became the model for
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: the very people who hated her guts.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: Uh No, people hated her guts because of her behavior.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, because she lied. Yeah, that's because people don't lie
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: that they don't like liars.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so she lied. But also she's been doing
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: very well for herself, very well for herself, aside from
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: that sort of regrettable incident that married herself.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: She doesn't even need to make videos anymore. She literally
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: works in the industry now Facebook and it was a
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Facebook or Google. They named a room in the offices
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: after her. She's doing just like her grift works. Like
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: I know, he's gonna to accuse the right of grifting
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: because he made that up, the right of grifting. He's
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: gonna accuse them of anti woke, which yeah, that's the
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: same thing, but I mean he'll call it the same thing,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Alison Like, to him, anti woke is basically far right
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Christian conservative patriarchy, whatever, white supremacy, it's all the same thing.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: We're just part of that, Allison, accept it. We're part
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: of it. We are in the far right.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: Get yeah, But I'm unfortunately I get a lot of
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: shit from them too. Incidentally, I've been.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Argued because they're not a monolith, because.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: With a lot of presumably Christian people who insist that
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: the men involved in the hundred person marathon arranged and
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: contracted by a woman, are just as responsible for the
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: existence of that event.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, yeah, well it's like I like
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: I've been trying to say for a while, the so
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: called right is not one thing. It's it's basically all
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: of the people in the non left. And that's why
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: they you fight with them, because they're not really on
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: your team. They're on their own thing. But the left
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: frames them all as the opposition, so they put them
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: all in one camp together that includes you and me
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: and everyone and most of the people watching, and we
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: just have to just recognize that and just be like, Okay, So,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: I mean lots of people have talked about this too,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: but I feel like we're going on at a tangent.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: So yeah, let's finish this. Oh, I got a super
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: chow from Meredith g. She gives us five bucks and says,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: subjective offense about a meme isn't an argument. Oftentimes, the
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: best way to deal with a meme is to lean
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: into the joke. Yes, what have we found out is
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: women have no sense of humor. No, they don't thank you, Meredith,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Well, you know what, I bet I
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: wouldn't if I bet if I found that woman and
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: I asked her how she felt about being a meme,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: she might be upset about it. But maybe by now,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: because that meme is like five years old, she would
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: have gotten over it and said, you know what, I
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: think it's kind of funny, right, this guy is getting
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: upset about it. It's these it's these men, these white
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: knights that come out and they're like, oh my god,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: you're hurting your feelings. What if she does herself in?
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: What if she minecrafts herself. I don't think she's gonna
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: do that. I think she's gonna move on and get
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: over it. Hell, she might have even like grown out
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: of that phase and said, you know what, I was
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: wrong about all that because she was wrong. So but
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know, one can one can hope anyway. So yeah,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: we're we're the ones that are angry, We're the ones
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: that are butt her, We're the ones that are grifters.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: It's all bullshit. There's a really great video made by
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: this guy named Mentus Wave explaining how the supposed right
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: wing grifters don't exist because in order for you to
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: be a grifter, you'd have to be taking advantage of
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: the status quo. That's how you get paid. So like,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: if I didn't want to live in an apartment paycheck
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: to paycheck, I'd be a feminist online and I'd make
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: fuck tons of money. Especially as a brown guy. I'd
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: cash in on that ship. But I have integrity, so
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that. That's what a grifter is.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: But Anywaysian media critics who consume movies and video games
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: with the objective to actively seek out whatever in them
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: can be construed as being woke. Yes, the critical drinker,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: nerd Rada, the Quarter and Heal versus Babyface, et cetera. Sarkisians,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: but far more fanatical.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: But they right there the thing, they don't have influence
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: over the industry.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: She's in the industry as a consultant making creative decisions.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: They're just saying I don't like this as a consumer.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: These two things are not the same, sir, false equivalents.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Let's move on. If do you have it's there?
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, no, no, so no, I do have time codes.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: But we jumped ahead a couple of times. But there
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: really isn't much else. He basically goes into I could
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: jump ahead to this bit where he talks about a
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: hypothetical critique of Aliens and Terminator Too if it were
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: released today, extra illustrating how any content can be framed
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: as woke with enough ideological scrutiny, highlighting the absurdity of
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: some critiques. And so he uses that to make his
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: point that like the you know these like I don't.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know why he got on that, like you
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: know Tangent where he talks about movies and and and
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: like these video game critics, these guys online, they're just
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: really sick and tired of the subversive media trash that
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: we've been getting for the past ten years. I mean,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: if you don't agree that that's been happening, like you
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: can just tell me in the chat. Like I think.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: I think it has and I think it's obvious and
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: like it's and it's specifically designed as an attack on masculinity.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: And by the way, it is a direct product of
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: feminist critique like Anita Sarkisian. So when in these Arkisia
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: was criticizing shit ten years ago on her YouTube channel
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: and getting speaking engagements and was doing presentations and visiting
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: you know, various game developing companies and doing consultations, all
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: for thousands and thousands of dollars by the way, yeah,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: tens of thousands of dollars. She was actually changing the industry,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: and now the industry has shifted a little bit. I
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: think it was always going in this direction. She just
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: kind of like pumped the gas on it. And then
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: the consumers or like the community that consumes these products,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: which is men primarily, were like, this doesn't look anything
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: like what I like, I don't think I want to
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: support this anymore. And some of them were like, I
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: think I'm gonna tell other men that this shit has
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: gone to shit because of these ideologies, because of this
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: stuff being spread in these industries. And he's saying, oh,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: you're turning into her, and it's like, no, she changed
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: things or people like her obviously affected the industry, and
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: we're reacting to it and we don't even, like you said, Allison,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: like these guys don't have any power. It's not like
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: critical drinkers getting invited up to fucking paramount but like
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: help work on the new star trek. Like they're just
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: saying shit on the internet, which they have every right
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: And more than that, people who are frustrated with it
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: because this is a top down This is absurd. This
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: is like the logic here is like going to the
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: French Revolution. Well maybe that's the wrong, wrong analysis, but
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: going to any peasant revolution and saying, you peasants have
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: as much power as these nobles who are making top
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: down decisions about your life. Because you're congregating in a
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: group and complaining about it, are you freaking mental? She
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: is making top down decisions about these creative things, and
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: I get to be squeaky because I am a woman
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: to shut up in the special chat. Look, she's making
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: top down decisions for consumers of these products.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she does consulting.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: Works in the audience who do not have the power
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: that she has, because if they did, just one of
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: them would be able to reverse her decisions. Complaining about
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: how the things that they love have changed. These two
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: things are not the same, sir, not the same at all.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: You are looking at somebody who has institutional power to
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: change the product, and you are saying that she is
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: Our people who are complaining about it on the ground
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: have the same amount of power. Are they changing the product? No,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: The only power they have is to stop consuming it.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: Well, there's one other really, there's one other, really important
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: thing too that he won't address. Anita Sarkisian was lying
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: and these other guys are telling the truth, and he
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: can't accept that because I guess he has some weird
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: postmodern europe. You just have an opinion, and I just
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: have an opinion. Bro attitude. But nerdrotic and healed versus
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: Babyface and me and lots of other people that are
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: talking about what's going on. They're not lying, They're telling
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: the truth. They're looking at how what has happened to J. R. R.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Tolkien's work? What is going to happen to C. S.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Lewis's work when Greta Gerwig takes over what has happened
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: to franchises like Terminator and I don't know, countless, name
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: it like whatever it is, Lord of the Rings. Right,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: when they critique that, they're not just saying this is
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: sexist against men. And here's why they're saying this is
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: bad because it's going against the canon or it's going
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: against you know, it's like shitting in the face of
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: the original creators. And don't it doesn't respect the source material.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: It's completely abandoned, like whatever it is, right, the hero's
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: journey whatever, that's what they're saying. So they're saying something true.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: And Anita Serkesina is lying or was lying and still
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: lies because she just wants to profit. I mean even
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: like basically woke dudes like Thunderfoot could see that, like
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: he made countless videos about her, was lying. It's not
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: because it's just a different difference of opinions.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: She is a liar and she has institutional power. Yes,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: this is not the same as critical drinker being part
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: of the audience that's being having to consume what she's manipulating.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: She has top down.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: Power yeah, night Motorcyclist, said CDPR. And the Witcher is
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: changing because of their initiatives on hiring only women, Like
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: that's another franchise. So the Witcher was this, you know,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: you ever read the Witcher books, Allison, Nobody likes to read.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean they're very popular Polish. They're they're
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: very popular Polish like dark fantasy novels, and they made
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: games based on them, extremely popular, and now they're making
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: a new one and they're they're they're they're completely changing
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: the canon because they're making Siri, who is a I
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: think Gerald or garylt is the Witcher and Siri is
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: like his daughter and women can never be Witchers like
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: that was like written to the canon originally it's not possible,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: and they're just making her into a Witcher now because feminism.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: That's it. That's like, that's why, Like if you can
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: just throw everything out and just say put a woman
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: in it, make her layman gay, then that's just feminism
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: doing his thing. And if you point it out and
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: you say, yeah, this isn't this is wrong, that yeah,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: somehow you're just like Anita Sarkasian even though you're literally
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: telling the truth. And that's what that what matters the most.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: This is an example of intersectionality and this man caping
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: for corporations. Mm hmm, this is this is it.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: And they will and they'll be like, we've got to
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: buy the product. Guys.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Hey, this is saying a person who has influence over
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: corporations and is making decisions on the product, and it
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: is basically, you know, within the corporate decision destructure is
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: more legitimate than the people complaining about what they're consuming
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: and not wanting to consume it. So he's essentially saying
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: that consumers must consume what the corporations tell them to. Goddamn,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: this is th h X one one three eight. Did
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: anyone ever guess that Lucas would hit on the right
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: dystopia In the dystopia We'd beat George Lucas, he would
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: be like, Yeah, this is what we're gonna end up in.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: We're going to end up worshiping the state in a
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: psychotic bureaucracy of enforced consumption.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like that. And this, by the way, Henry Cavill,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: who played the Witcher on the show, he left the
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: show because they were abandoning the canon. Is is he
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: also just being just like Anitas Arkisian.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: Now no, I mean the critics of Anita Sarkisian.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well no, but the critics. But Henry cavill
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: left because he didn't like the direction the show was going,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: because they were going against the way it was written.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: And he and Henry Cavill is one of these people
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: that really cares. He's an actor, he played the Witcher,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: he played Superman. Uh, and he's one of these people
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: that really cares about being true to the source material.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: He has less control over this than Anita Sarkisians, the
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: Anita Sarkisian and all of the consultants, the corporate consultants
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: that she represents. He has, the star has less control
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: over the product than they do. And this man is saying,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: how dare you complain? You're just if you get angry,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: you're just as bad as there needed No, oh sir, Yeah.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: The last thing here.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: Nobody believed her.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 9: Now, I could go on and on and on and on,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 9: but clearly the point is that the timeless classics Alien
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 9: and Terminy were bastardized by woke Hollywood sequels.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: Nobody asked for all right, that's enough, you get the idea.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: All right, shower He's basically trying to say that if
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: you applied the same lens of critique to Aliens and
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: Predator or Aliens and Terminator two, that you would also,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: you know, find it to be woke.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: No, and he doesn't understand. It's not that there were
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: female characters. It was that these characters were defined by
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: their actions. And also I think that Sarah, like in
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: The Terminator to the Second Terminator, she did Sir Connor,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: Sarah Connor, she did start backsliding into some feminist nonsense
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: and her her son was like, please, you know so
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: Even little yeah direct she was threatening Miles Dyson and
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: saying it was men like you that created the atomic bomb.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: And then he was like, because his mom was out
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: of a mental institution, Well, that seems in character for
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: for But I will say this though, The one thing
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: that I think should be pointed out those movies were
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: subversive in their own way, and to like recognize that
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: is it doesn't mean that the movies can't be enjoyed.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: Like I love those movies, but they are still progressive
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: for their time, and it's okay to recognize that that
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything. I'm not triggered by it. I own
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: them on DVD. I have like the Metal Box for
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Terminator two. I think it's a great movie, right, but
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: that you can also acknowledge that, yes, these feminist themes
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: were there. It's just that James Cameron was a lot
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: better at putting it in his films than modern filmmakers
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: are today, where they would like hams. And then James
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: Cameron dropped the ball on the last Terminator movie, whatever
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: the hell it was called, when they brought back Sarah
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: Connor as like a super grandma and they had what's
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: her name from that show used to like so much.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about, Cameron or whatever.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but yeah, let me push back a little
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: bit on that. The original Terminator she started off as
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: sort of like a ditsy I think, not waitress or
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: maybe secretary, and she actually had to earn any kind
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: of toughness, so did Ripley, and she even started off
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: slightly tough because you know, space trucker type. But like,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: that's the idea that they are. They progress in their skills,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: they earn their skills through their actions and choices, and
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: even the fact that Ripley sort of had to have
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: the cat to kind of add to the sense of
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: peril and the fact that she had to be presented
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: as a protective figure of something I would say, I mean,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: if it's feminist, it's it's the kind of feminist where
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: maybe it was the kind of feminist that I was,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: where you focus on the idea of women's actions being
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: as important as men's, their moral choices being as important
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: as men's, and the necessity of their responsibilities being equivalent
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: to men's, if not equivalent, if not directly equivalent, then
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: at least equivalent in terms of personal sacrifice. Does that
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: make sense, you know? And that that would be a
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: feminism that I would have gladly continued to be a
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: part of until I realized I was the only one.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: I was literally the only one. When I was that
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: feminist who said women's responsibilities should their rights should be
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: commiserate with their responsibilities, So there should be if women
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: are allowed to have control over men, they should be
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: responsible for men's protection, right, that kind of thing. When
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: I was calling myself a feminist and that was my
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: feminist position, I looked around and I realized that I
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: was completely alone, completely alone. And then I also realized
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: that other feminists who believe that women don't have to
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: have responsibilities equal to their rights were using the existence
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: of women like me to pretend that that was what
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: feminism was, and that was like that that that made
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: me up chuck a little in my mouth and say, nope,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not being a part of this bullshit anymore. Anyway. Yeah,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: let's keep going.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's basically it. I could just read
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: the last bit that he ends on. Yeah, so we do.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: I do have one thank you to give. Oh good,
• 1:22:23
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• 1:22:28
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• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: So let's do it, all right.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: So okay, So I'm just gonna read this bit here
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: because this sort of like sums up what I think
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: is going on, and this is I'm afraid it's gonna
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: get a little bit theological only because A Dark Matter
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: twenty five to twenty five built his channel on atheism
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: and not on social justice or feminism. But what you
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: will find them as you dig into atheism, it's really
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: just secular humanism. Is that is, it's going to be feminists.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: Like that's sort of like an inevitable consequence of atheism itself.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: This is what atheism plus for any of you old
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: heads that remember, this is like what killed the atheist
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: movement whatever that is online was was the feminists because
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: they were like, well, we need some kind of moral hierarchy.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: Let's put women at the top or something. And that's
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: kind of how you got it and Dark Matter twenty
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: five to twenty five. His brand is like based in
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: his secular humanists viewpoint, his agenda in that way. So
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: if anything even starts to look like it's becoming like
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: a resistance to that, then he's going to like hit back,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: and he's going to hit back in whatever in the
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: way that he knows, which is essentially to you know,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: call them all bigots. Right, So here's what he says,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: and if you want, I could play the clip, but
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: it's he goes on for a bit, so now I
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: could go on and on. It's it's an analysis. He's
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: talking about the woke shit. I'm gonna jump jump ahead
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: here now. If you don't want an agenda driven critique
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: of movies in either direction, you can look at Jeremy
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: John's or Red Letter Media to give a more objective
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: and knowledgeable critique of movies, but not the people who
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: are constantly on the hunt for wokesm so they can
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: feed outrage to their audiences, because you know, that's what
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: we when we point out what's wrong, and like people
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: are like, oh, yeah, that explains it. That's us feeding outrage.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: That's not us explaining to people. Yeah, this is coming
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: from you know, this like camming agenda, and this is
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: what they do, and they're yeah, they're destroying yeah, things
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: that you love on purpose.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: Let me get in here for a second. So I'm
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: guessing that he would consider somebody like me and my
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: analysis to be anti woke, although my the thing that
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: I point out is that woke minimizes and trivializes the
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: decisions of the groups of people it supposedly advocates for.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is, when you watch
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: these shows, the decisions of the white cis het men
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: always carry more moral weight, They're always more interesting, they
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: always have more consequences. I mean, even in the re
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: envisioning of Star Wars, who had to save the day
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, even if he was
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: a cynical blue milk drinking mess. Luke still had to
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: step in and sacrifice to save the day, because at
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's the men. This seems
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: to be the role of the men. Even in the
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: final episode of the trilogy. Of the sequel trilogy, Ken Right,
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: Kylo Wren sorry had to step in and save the day.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: Who ended up being the most interesting character in the
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: Barbie movie, the one who with the most interesting dilemma
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: that actually had something of a character arc. Ken Why,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: because you can allow male characters to be morally wrong,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: to make mistakes, so you can actually invest in them
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: as a full human being. Because and this is something
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: I said to a woman who was arguing persistently that
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: men are solely responsible for behavior for pregnancies because they
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: control ejaculation. Now, whether or not men do actually have
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: conscious control over ejaculation, or whether it's a reflex, and
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: whether or not that's actually true, because you can't actually
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: get pregnant just by having sex without ejaculation, because they're
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: sperm and pre come. Let's set all of this aside.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: There are a whole bunch of choices that women make
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: that result in a pregnancy being carried to term you
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: have to just completely like, no, I don't care about them,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: just flick them into the garbage. In order to come
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: to the conclusion that men are solely or primarily responsible
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: for pregnancy, you just have to not care about women's choices.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: And there is a knot of not caring about women's
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: choices Woke. And that offends me on a cellular lemo
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: as a woman, because I know how important the recognition
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: of those choices is to me as a person, to
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: my understanding of myself as a person, to being a
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: full human being. All right, And that is my criticism
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: of Woke. You can shit all over that as much
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: as you like Dark Matter twenty five twenty five, because
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you are yet another man who thinks that
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: the consequences of women's choices should be appended to men's
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: so that men get to have all of the consequence,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: all of the importance. They're the ones that cause everything
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: to happen. They are the Alpha and Omega. Yeah, fuck
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: off and go meditate. You're so freaking angry it's unpleasant,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: all right, So.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: Let me continue jumping ahead, he says. So. Yeah, ten
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: years ago, I jumped on the anti woke bandwagon. Ever,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: so briefly before I realized what actually was an obsessive,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: hypocritical ideology that was rooted in demographic hatred. Much respect
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: to the people who never jumped on board that bandwagon,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: you're way ahead of the curve. So, okay, you're all biggots, guys,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: that's basically what he landed on. Oh I figured it out.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: You're all biggots.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: Now, if you were on it until more recently, well,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: at least you found your way off eventually. It takes
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of integrity to admit when you're wrong, okay,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: especially after being wrong for several years. We should always
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: be willing to forgive.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: Well, was he ever anti woke?
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: He probably was for a bit because see when the when,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: the when, when the progressives, the Wokes, the sgw's, the
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: fucking Marxist whatever you want to call it, when they
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: became really really ubiquitous and obnoxious, he was probably like, yeah,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: or they started denying, like you know, biological reality. He
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: probably felt the need to say something just because it
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: was making him look bad. But now that he thinks, like,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: you know, he's on the losing side, because let's see
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: how old this video is how old is this video?
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: I just want to look now, when did this come out?
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: Two weeks ago? So yeah, now now that he sees
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: himself in the position of losing because the election that
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: now he's in, boldened to double down. Because these people
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: operate the most from a position that they perceive as
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: as beneath are weaker. That's when they're strongest. So when
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: feminists lose, they think they win because now they get
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: to complain more because they had something to complain about.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: So but let me let me finish this, because I
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: know you want to say a lot, but all right.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: I want to say yay, okay, okay, we got yes.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: Uh. Now, if you're still on that bandwagon, what the
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: fuck are you doing? Get your ship together? Now? We
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: have even have people who were prominent atheists like Sam
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: Harris and Richard Dawkins and Hersy Ali crying about the
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: wokeness boogeyman, to the point that some of them are
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: even claiming to be culturally Christian or even outrightful Christian.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: Now that is the money shot, right there, guys, that's
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: his problem. More and more as our country or our
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: world has descended into chaos after what's happened in the
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: last five years or six years, which I was gonna
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: say five years. More and more people are turning to
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: some kind of spiritual answer ion. Hersi Ali abandoned her
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: atheism and became like full on Christian, and Richard Dawkins
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: has said, well, I like to think of myself as
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: a cultural Christian because his country is being overrun right
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: by Muslims essentially, and they're having an existential crisis, and
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: dark matters. Problem is not the fact that the UK
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: is going to have like tremendous like suffering coming up
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: as a result of unmitigated immigration, or the fact that
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: more and more people are going to church because they're
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: trying to like find some spiritual answers or something else.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: That's not his problem. It's not that what caused that.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: It's the fact that they're abandoning his religion, which is atheism.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, so all.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: Right, but let me let me finish this. That's how
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: shallow the nature of this beast has become. But why Christianity, Well,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: because they're not buying into real Christianity, the Christianity of
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, which is very woke and concerned with the
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: downtrodden and marginalize. Another bullshit misrepresentation when when christ says
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: that you should take care of people, he doesn't say
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: vote for the socialist government. And people donate like more
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: conservatives donate than liberals do in general, like in large numbers.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: So again, he just doesn't like us. That's it. He
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: just doesn't like us. They're buying into the modern, commercialized, propagandaized,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: far right version of Christianity because they think it's a
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: bulwark against what it's really sad to see. It's like
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: watching a starving person verage voraciously eat poison. So that's
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: that's it. That's what his That's what it ultimately comes
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: down to. That's what it comes down to.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: I would imagine that Jesus would focus more on charity
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: as a personal choice, because if it's forced, it's meaningless.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: Exactly. It is, like, that's the whole thing about Christianity.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: That's why it has to be a choice. It has.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: It has what is it, uh, freedom of will? Free will? Yeah,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: free will as a central premise right.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: You have, isn't it. It's interesting because we still frame
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: everything in terms of men having free will and women not,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: and yet free will is a is a huge in
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: our culture. Free will is a huge component of being recognized.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: It's human. So what does that mean really? Like, what
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: are you idolizing when you idolize women but you take
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: away their free will? Like anyway, it's it's just I'm
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna point something out with I finished. I
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: never finished the sequel trilogy for Star Wars. It's actually astounding,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: what Abraham. I watched all three of them in the
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: last week, back to back, not back to back like
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: there's a day between each one. But and so now
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: I've watched the original, the prequels, and the sequels, and
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: it's interesting to watch the deterioration. Now I would I
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: would argue that the prequels, what happened there is Lucas
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: is not a character director. He also seems to struggle
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: with narrative beats, like strong emotional beats. Jay J. Abrams
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: is sort of good at that. Unfortunately he has other problems.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: But this is what I wanted to bring out about
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: the sequels. As you watch them, you start to realize
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: that the the the driving in the driving philosophy behind
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: this is that the writer and the director are white
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: knights giving Ray shit that she has not earned. Like literally,
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: this this becomes a man sitting in a room fantasizing
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: about all the stuff he can give a woman because
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: he's so powerful as a writer. And it's grotesque. This
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: isn't about Ray as a character earning anything that she gets.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: She gets everything just by virtue of being Ray, by
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: her bizarre meta relationship with the writer who's white knighting
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: for her. And it is really uncomfortable to watch because
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: you know that there's nothing this female character has done
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: for herself. It's all this fine, weird kind of writerly
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: incest between the writer and this character that he's decided
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: to give everything too. When you're writing, you want to
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: try to maintain a sense like suspension of disbelief. And
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: when you're writing a female character achieving things, you want
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: to show those things flowing from her actions and choices,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: and you want to make sure that you have reasonable
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: amounts of obstacles so that that facsimile is appear appears.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: And then the thing is that people watch and read
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: this stuff and they model it in their own heads.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: But the problem is, what are you modeling? What are
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: women modeling when they watch a character like Ray, they're
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: subconsciously modeling the all powerful writer giving this weak, irrelevant
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: female character everything on a silver platter. Whereas when you
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: watch somebody like Ripley in in Aliens, you can see
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: the process of her coming to grips with what she's
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: experiencing and making the choices necessary to stand up to
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: it in any capacity in order to survive. You can
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: see the same thing with Sarah Connor. You can see
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: these steps that are being taken to live up to
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: something that's not barin Ray. And when you do that,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: you're actually constructing a model for women to look at
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: and be able to do the same thing. I don't
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: think it's any any coincidence that the highest number of
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: women in STEM was in the eighties and nine, or
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: the mid to eighties, when these kinds of characters were
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: most prevalent. You took a female character who didn't start
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: with everything, or wasn't just granted everything by the writer,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: but the writer wrote her believably developing the skills and
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: decisions to overcome her the obstacle that she was facing,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: and we don't see that anymore. It's all just Mary
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: Too's that are basically the recipients of the white knighting
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: of their authors. And this is supposed to be in advance,
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: Like seriously, okay, sorry, I'll get off my my my mind,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: all right, I put that out there. That's not an
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: advance in how we portray women in fiction. It's a regression.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is basically Ray Ray is not a hero.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: She's not a powerful character. She is a damsel being
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: saved from everything by the genie writer. Okay, by the
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: male genie writer. That's that is not any kind It's
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: not I don't even want to use the term empowerment.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: That isn't even development as a human being. Okay, all right,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: I will I'll leave it at that.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: All right. Anyway, Yeah, that's basically the video. I mean,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: like essentially, the take home is I don't like the
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: direction of the wind that the wind is blowing, and
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: I mean I get it. It's you know, it's scary,
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: but it is what it is. You're just gonna to adapt. Yeah,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: but this is like the the world you created when
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: you basically told people to like practice social distance thing,
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: mask up, get the jab and like that their men
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: are shit because the patriarchy and that you know, owning
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: property is bad and you should be forced to give
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: it away and God is dead and all these other
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: things you put out there. Eventually it was gonna be
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: a reaction, and that's what we're getting now. And basically
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: you're lucky that it's not really that severe. It's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I think I'm gonna I think I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna stop paying attention to what you say. I think
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop giving you, supporting, you know, people with
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  Speaker 1: my hard earned money that hate me for who I am.
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  Speaker 1: And I think I'm gonna go back to church or
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  Speaker 1: whatever it is. And you're like, oh, no, Richard Dawkins, No, well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean you lose. I guess, I don't know. We'll
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  Speaker 1: see so yeah, but yeah, I mean I'm not mad,
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not taking this from the approach of having a
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  Speaker 2: horse in the race when it comes to what people believe.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just like, yeah, you're you're making false comparisons, dude.
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  Speaker 2: And Anita Sarkisian isn't the same as the critical drinker,
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  Speaker 2: and the reason why is Aarnita Anita has top down
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  Speaker 2: power over the things that the critical drinker at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day has to consume. And it's a
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  Speaker 2: frustrating position to be. In no doubt, like all the
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  Speaker 2: critical drinker can do is influence other people who are
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  Speaker 2: disgusted with the changes that all of the Anita Sarkisians
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  Speaker 2: are making into not buying this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And I've been telling them what to buy. He's just
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  Speaker 1: saying I didn't like this, and here's why.
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  Speaker 2: Like you know, critics, I'm not even for all of
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  Speaker 2: the so called anti woke criticism. I think some of
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  Speaker 2: it is it is knee jerk, so I could criticize that,
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  Speaker 2: but I would criticize it on its merits, not just
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  Speaker 2: because it's pushing people towards Christianity. What okay? Anyway, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I want to give out some thank yous, and I
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  Speaker 2: do have other stuff that I'm doing today, so I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to have a big thank you to Meredith g
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  Speaker 2: for one hundred smackarrooneys. Thank you, Meredith, and another thank
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  Speaker 2: you to Richard Bierre for five hundred smacaroonys just by
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  Speaker 2: complete coincidence. Thank you, Richard. You're the best.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can go ahead and talk.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Richard, Richard's Richard's the best. I was hoping
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  Speaker 2: you do the the Donald voice.
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  Speaker 1: Oh this is the best Richard. This is the best Richard.
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  Speaker 2: It made me happy, Brian, that's all.
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  Speaker 10: Men's Right activists are machines, dude. Okay, they are literal machines.
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  Speaker 10: They are talking point machines. They are impossible to fucking
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  Speaker 10: deal with, especially if you have like especially if you
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  Speaker 10: have like a couple of dudes who have good memory.
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  Speaker 1: On top of that too, holy shit, you're fucked