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Chuck & Buck 6-15 Hour 3: One Series with Hugh Millen, Baseball Brunch and USA dominates. · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: It's time for our Seahawks one series, and one of
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  Speaker 1: our featured attractions is here on this Monday morning, our
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  Speaker 1: QB one. Hugh millon top analyst here at Sports Radio
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  Speaker 1: ninety three point three k j R F M joins
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  Speaker 1: us here to be part of our Seahawks one series.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, sir, good morning.
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  Speaker 3: You're too kind.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, yeah that that dead on balls
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  Speaker 1: accurate over so I under delivery.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we play our roads well.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you gets to be a part, gets to chooses
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  Speaker 1: to be a part of our Seahawks one series. Every year,
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  Speaker 1: one analyst breaking down one key Sawk player for one
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  Speaker 1: entire interview. But sometimes we don't always type cast him.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes we can just open it up to any position
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  Speaker 1: on the football field. But it kind of worked out
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  Speaker 1: this year, Hugh, that you've got your shot at the
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  Speaker 1: QB one of the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 4: Are we gonna take advantage?
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  Speaker 1: Are we gonna break down Sam Arnold with you today?
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  Speaker 5: You know, I think we are to, And most of
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  Speaker 5: the years I have chose other positions, but I just
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  Speaker 5: think that there's still enough with Sam Donald to discuss
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  Speaker 5: about him. I just love the story. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 5: only been a Seahawk for one year. He's one of
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  Speaker 5: my all time favorite Seahawks already, and I just I
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  Speaker 5: just love the nature of how he stepped up and
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  Speaker 5: what he's delivered. And I think it's you know, I
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  Speaker 5: think it's temporal in the sense that or it's time
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  Speaker 5: sensitive in that they just got their rings and I
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  Speaker 5: imagine Sam Donald, you know, he has that ring, which
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  Speaker 5: he earned well, and I think there's just a nature
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  Speaker 5: of the discussion about him. Well, the defense was number
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  Speaker 5: one in the NFL fewest points allowed, and then the
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  Speaker 5: running game came on and from Week sixteen and beyond
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  Speaker 5: six games there there were second in the league of
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  Speaker 5: among the playoff teams in yards per rush. But there's
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  Speaker 5: that Ram game in the NFC Championship game, and really
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  Speaker 5: what he did against the Rams in the finale or
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  Speaker 5: the second game rather in the regular season against the Rams,
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  Speaker 5: I think really marks how he earned his Super Bowl ring.
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  Speaker 3: Hugh Mellans.
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  Speaker 1: So with US Seahawks one series, we're going to break
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  Speaker 1: down Sam Donald. Well, let's dive into that.
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  Speaker 3: Then let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about when Sam Donald is at his best,
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  Speaker 1: like in those games, what is he doing well and
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  Speaker 1: what is it that he can grow off of and
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  Speaker 1: maybe become even better more consistent going forward.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, let's contextualize this, and if you can, let's
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  Speaker 5: take a journey through the history of the NFL. In
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  Speaker 5: all playoff games, there have been twelve hundred and ninety
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  Speaker 5: six quarterback starts, so six and forty eight playoff games,
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  Speaker 5: twelve one hundred and ninety six quarterback starts in the
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  Speaker 5: history of the NFL. Of those twelve hundred ninety six,
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  Speaker 5: because obviously there's two teams in a game, there's sixteen
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  Speaker 5: times by fourteen quarterbacks where a quarterback in a playoff
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  Speaker 5: game has had three hundred and thirty yards or more
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  Speaker 5: passing and three touchdowns are more with zero interceptions. We've
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  Speaker 5: seen one game in the history of the NFL that
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  Speaker 5: had two quarterbacks in such a game, and you just
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  Speaker 5: watched it. In the NFC Championship game. The duel that
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  Speaker 5: Sam Darnold had against Matthew Stafford was a historic duel
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  Speaker 5: in the manner that I just said. And so what
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  Speaker 5: it really amounts to, guys, is I think of it
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  Speaker 5: like the Seahawks were so good in other areas, particularly
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  Speaker 5: you know, notably the defense. They said, Hey, we don't
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  Speaker 5: need you, Sam, but we got one kryptonite. There's one kryptonite,
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  Speaker 5: and it's Matthew Stafford. In the last two games, Matthew
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  Speaker 5: Stafford against the Seahawk defense eight hundred and thirty one yards.
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  Speaker 3: Passing, six touchdowns, no interceptions.
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  Speaker 5: That is an NFL record for a quarterback in back
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  Speaker 5: to back games against an opponent. Two consecutive games against
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  Speaker 5: opponent with most amount of yards with zero interceptions.
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  Speaker 3: It's the most.
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  Speaker 5: It's the fifth most amount of yards counting any interceptions.
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  Speaker 5: But the efficiency that Stafford brought Stafford brought against the
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  Speaker 5: Sea Haawk defense again, eight hundred and thirty one yards,
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  Speaker 5: no interceptions. That's a record. And so that's what Sam
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  Speaker 5: Darnold had to step up and compete against. So let's
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  Speaker 5: let's talk about the grit that the guy showed. Because
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  Speaker 5: if you say, okay, he had the he had the
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  Speaker 5: four interception game down in in La and then in
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  Speaker 5: the game up in Seattle, he had the early in
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  Speaker 5: the fourth quarter he threw.
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  Speaker 3: His second interception.
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  Speaker 5: At that point you had if you just say stop right,
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  Speaker 5: there is Sam Darnold, our quarterback. Well, at that point,
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  Speaker 5: you'd say he's got a hell of a Los Angeles
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  Speaker 5: Rams problem, because if you go back for the Seahawks
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  Speaker 5: his most recent twenty drives he had, he had produced
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  Speaker 5: thirty three points. That's that's that. That's the through three
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  Speaker 5: quarters of the game in Seattle.
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  Speaker 3: And counting the game down in LA.
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  Speaker 5: So that's one point six y five points per drive.
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  Speaker 5: That's good enough for twenty eighth. And if you throw
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  Speaker 5: in the playoff game that he had against the as
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  Speaker 5: a Viking against the Rams, now it drops down to
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  Speaker 5: thirty one drives forty three points, one point three to nine.
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  Speaker 5: That's good for thirty first in the NFL. Got me
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  Speaker 5: one point three to nine points per drive. That's what
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  Speaker 5: your quarterback's doing against the Rams at that point, that
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  Speaker 5: dude dug deep and counting the fourth quarter in overtime
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  Speaker 5: in the regular season game and the NFC championship game,
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  Speaker 5: fifteen drives forty six points three point zho seven points
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  Speaker 5: per drive?
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  Speaker 3: What is that?
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  Speaker 5: Well, last year the Rams led the NFL in points
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  Speaker 5: per drive two point seven eight. Again, three point oh seven.
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  Speaker 5: You'd have to go back to twenty eighteen with Pat
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  Speaker 5: Mahomes to find a team that had that level of
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  Speaker 5: points per drive. That's what that guy gave you. And oh,
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  Speaker 5: by the way, one more thing about that NFC Championship game,
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  Speaker 5: the running game.
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  Speaker 3: So the defense said.
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  Speaker 5: Sam help like Matthew Stafford's are freaking kryptonite.
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  Speaker 3: Did he have a running game? No, they had the
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  Speaker 3: x running game.
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  Speaker 5: From Week sixteen through the Super Bowl, they had one
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  Speaker 5: hundred and fifty one yards. Again, that's number two of
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  Speaker 5: the all the playoffs and number three in the league.
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  Speaker 5: But in the NFC Championship game, they only had seventy
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  Speaker 5: five yards. They were at two point nine yards per carry.
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  Speaker 5: Sam Donald had no running game in that NFC Championship game.
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  Speaker 5: In fact, of those sixteen games, I know I'm throwing
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  Speaker 5: a lot of numbers that y'all, I'll wrap it up.
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  Speaker 5: Of the sixteen games that I said that a quarterback
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  Speaker 5: has been at three hundred and thirty yards or more
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  Speaker 5: and three touchdowns and more, there's only one other game
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  Speaker 5: where the quarterback had a running game that was under
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  Speaker 5: three yards per That was Tom Brady in twenty sixteen
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  Speaker 5: AFC Championship game. So what's the takeaway, Sam Donald? The
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  Speaker 5: team didn't need Sam Donald in a lot of these games.
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  Speaker 5: They didn't need him in Super Bowl and I'll admit
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  Speaker 5: I've watched the tape and I thought he was an
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  Speaker 5: okay in the Super Bowl. After watching the tape, I thought, man,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not even sure if it was okay. He didn't
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  Speaker 5: have a great game in the Super Bowl, but he
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  Speaker 5: didn't turn the ball over. And what he did he
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  Speaker 5: earned that big fat ring by what he did again
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  Speaker 5: the Rams, because that's when the team they had no
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  Speaker 5: answers and and that that that special football team and
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  Speaker 5: how the running game came on and what the defense did. Nope,
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  Speaker 5: they couldn't do it against the Rams. And it was
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  Speaker 5: Sam Donald who had to win that game. And obviously
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  Speaker 5: you don't win that game, you don't win.
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  Speaker 3: The Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 5: So so so, even though everybody will will think about
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  Speaker 5: the Patriots, Uh, Sam Donald will wear that ring or
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  Speaker 5: or he won't wear it because that's not his nature,
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  Speaker 5: but he'll he'll put that somewhere in the house and else,
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  Speaker 5: you know, on display somewhere, and and he earned it
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  Speaker 5: against the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: In my opinion, you better find a sturdy shelf. I
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  Speaker 1: thing is enormous. Yea fortify that sail bro exactly. But
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  Speaker 1: are you tracking with Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: For sure?
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  Speaker 5: For sure, Like uh, you know, I I'm putting some
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  Speaker 5: numbers to something that we already kind of knew intuitively.
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  Speaker 3: But but when you really you know, you see like wow,
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  Speaker 3: uh that that was that was something that team just
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  Speaker 3: had to jump on his back and he and his
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  Speaker 3: back was strong. Yeah he delivered me. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Hugh Millan is with us our Siahawks one Series one
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  Speaker 1: analyst breaking down one key Syhawk player for one entire interview.
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  Speaker 1: It's Hugh Millan on Sam Donald, QB one on QB
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  Speaker 1: one here this morning on Chuck and Buck KJR. All right,
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  Speaker 1: so let me ask you about the weaknesses. What drove
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  Speaker 1: you crazy more the national narrative that he hadn't won
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  Speaker 1: a big game all the way up to the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: or the local narrative that he was turning the ball
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  Speaker 1: over way too much and it was a problem.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's a great question. I think that both of
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  Speaker 5: those are just, in my opinion, we're ignorant of the facts.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, if you look at at and I did
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  Speaker 5: I creeped on Sam Donald. I went back to his
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  Speaker 5: days in high school. I mean, he put up forty
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  Speaker 5: three points in a playoff game, got a concussion late,
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  Speaker 5: and they lost the playoff game. I mean at USC
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  Speaker 5: asked Penn State, if he can't win the big game,
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  Speaker 5: you know when after a fifty one to forty eight
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  Speaker 5: Rose bull win by the Trojans when he had five
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  Speaker 5: touchdowns and over four hundred yards, I don't have the
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  Speaker 5: stats right in front of me, or or the Huskies
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  Speaker 5: in Husky Stadium when the Huskies were I think fifth
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  Speaker 5: or sixth in the country and he came in, dropped
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  Speaker 5: two eighty on him and packed twelve championship game against Stanford,
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  Speaker 5: I mean like three hundred and twenty six yards and
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  Speaker 5: three touchdowns.
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  Speaker 3: Like, at no point if.
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  Speaker 5: You wanted to make the argument that this dude is
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  Speaker 5: not clutch, that's in his DNA, and you went hunting
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  Speaker 5: for the stats to prove it, you just couldn't find it.
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  Speaker 5: And and yet and even even for the Vikings, it's like,
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  Speaker 5: wait a minute, how do you get to be fourteen
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  Speaker 5: and three and not winning big games?
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  Speaker 3: How about last year?
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  Speaker 5: Like going on the road to Jacksonville, was that not
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  Speaker 5: you know, at home against Houston one of the best.
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  Speaker 5: You know, arguably if there was a tep it was
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  Speaker 5: better than the Seahawks. It was the Texans. The games
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  Speaker 5: that he had It's like Don James said it to
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  Speaker 5: the the Seattle Times in nineteen ninety nine that the
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  Speaker 5: big game is always the one you lose. They never
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  Speaker 5: want to give you credit for what you win. So
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  Speaker 5: I think that that was no more evident. Don James's
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  Speaker 5: wisdom was no more evident than in how people, in
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  Speaker 5: my opinion, lazily assess Sam Darnold. And then and then
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  Speaker 5: to your point about the turnovers. Now, I'm going to
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  Speaker 5: give you this hard in in arguable numbers. I've done
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  Speaker 5: the core in the last five season. I've gone the
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  Speaker 5: correlation for seasons twenty twenty one, three, four, twenty five,
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  Speaker 5: the last five seasons. And now this is not one
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  Speaker 5: five year breakdown, this is five one year breakdowns. And
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  Speaker 5: you look and you say the correlation to winning. And remember, now, correlation.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to insult anybody's education here, but but
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  Speaker 5: you know, correlation. We say, okay, as one stat rises
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  Speaker 5: does the other. For example, the more hours you spend
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  Speaker 5: studying for your final, the higher grade you should get,
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  Speaker 5: they should both go up. That would be a positive correlation.
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  Speaker 5: The more beers you drink the night before final, that
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  Speaker 5: then then that should be a negative correlation. More beers
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  Speaker 5: lower score. Right, So we get all that, and and
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  Speaker 5: everything close to zero is basically irrelevant like that. That's
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  Speaker 5: like saying did you tell your left shoe first, or
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  Speaker 5: you're right?
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  Speaker 3: Or what color was the gator ray? Right?
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  Speaker 5: So this is the five year breakdown on turnovers, all
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  Speaker 5: the handwringing about the turnovers, the correlation in the NFL
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  Speaker 5: to quarterback turnovers and winning. So you run very easy
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  Speaker 5: in a microsoptic cell. Just put winning in one column
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  Speaker 5: and turnovers in the next, and then run the correlation numbers.
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  Speaker 5: And here's the deal. It's point zero, one zero. Now,
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  Speaker 5: nobody on Earth can refute those numbers. The only thing
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  Speaker 5: you could say is that maybe something else is more
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  Speaker 5: important or what have you. But you have to have
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  Speaker 5: an account an answer for that.
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  Speaker 3: That's just five years.
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  Speaker 5: That And by the way, if you notice the stat,
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  Speaker 5: guys noticed it was a positive correlation. One would expect
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  Speaker 5: that winning would go up when interceptions go down. Actually,
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  Speaker 5: even though it's basically zero and irrelevant, it's actually a
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  Speaker 5: very incrementally positive correlation. So and so Sam Darnold let
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  Speaker 5: us led the league in a stat that has a
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  Speaker 5: point zero. Imagine a baseball player who's batting ten? Okay,
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  Speaker 5: now fast, Now go over to the other column that
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  Speaker 5: is yards per drop back? What does that entail? That
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  Speaker 5: means if you get sacked, that hurts your yard. That
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  Speaker 5: hurts your yards per drop back because the drop if
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  Speaker 5: you scramble, if you're Lamar Jackson, you scramble for fourteen yards,
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  Speaker 5: you get the credit for yards for dropback. It's it's
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  Speaker 5: pretty all encompassing. That has a point six seven five
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  Speaker 5: correlation to winning yards for dropback. So we're gonna and
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  Speaker 5: who who where does Sam Donald rank in that stat?
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  Speaker 3: Number one in the NFL.
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  Speaker 5: So we're gonna we're gonna, uh get our panties in
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  Speaker 5: a bunch, oh, because he's number one in the NFL
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  Speaker 5: in a stat that is point zero ten. Hey again,
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  Speaker 5: just think of a baseball player. One guy hits ten,
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  Speaker 5: another guy hits six to seventy five. I know it's
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  Speaker 5: probably more like a slugging, but slugging goes beyond one thousand.
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  Speaker 5: So I'll go back to uh or on base percentage whatever.
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  Speaker 5: Let's say you're OVP one is ten in one six
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  Speaker 5: seventy five, six to seventy five. So do you wanna
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  Speaker 5: do you wanna focus on a guy's stat that has
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  Speaker 5: next to no correlation to winning versus a correlation that
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  Speaker 5: is at six seventy five and Sam Brown's number win
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  Speaker 5: the NFL. So so at an event, look like, I
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  Speaker 5: know that hurts my quarterback soul to sit here and
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  Speaker 5: tell you that turnovers don't matter, like like it goes.
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  Speaker 5: It's like telling me to put my hands over hot fire. Whoa, whoa,
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  Speaker 5: that's hot. Don't have me rest my hands over fire.
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  Speaker 5: But like, like, seriously, you're gonna text text line, bring
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  Speaker 5: in the text. Somebody account for that number.
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  Speaker 3: Five years.
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  Speaker 5: That's not a one off, that's the last five years
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  Speaker 5: in the NFL. Quarterback turnovers have a ten poor lace
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  Speaker 5: of winning yardsborg dropback has a six to seventy five.
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  Speaker 5: Somebody's gonna have to count for that. So at any event,
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  Speaker 5: Uh yeah, both of them bothered me a lot. Both
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  Speaker 5: of them I think were ignorant of the facts. And
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  Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just delighted for a dude in Sam
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  Speaker 5: Darnold that was able to, you know, just wash all
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  Speaker 5: of that away.
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  Speaker 1: In our last couple of minutes as we look forward
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  Speaker 1: to twenty two, twenty six, I mean, this was I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think he had his breakthrough season as a pro
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  Speaker 1: with the Minnesota Vikings and still have the doubters now
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  Speaker 1: that he's pretty much checked every single box that you
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  Speaker 1: can check in a regular season and a postseason. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: as Sam Donald has, he got a lot more ceiling
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  Speaker 1: to go. I mean, are we gonna look at a
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  Speaker 1: better quarterback this upcoming fall?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think that if I were to run that
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  Speaker 5: hypothesis through the sniff test, I would say it sounds
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  Speaker 5: like this. Sam Donald has has never had a game
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  Speaker 5: where prior to the game he looked in the mirror
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  Speaker 5: and he saw a Super Bowl champion. And he's never
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  Speaker 5: gotten dressed in the locker room and he's getting his
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  Speaker 5: ankles tape and everybody who he sees, all of his teammates,
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  Speaker 5: they got their beats on, they're ready to go play ball.
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  Speaker 5: And every time they look at Sam Donald, who they see,
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  Speaker 5: they see a super Bowl champion, that that that scenario
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  Speaker 5: has never happened. And so I'm I'm just thrilled to see.
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  Speaker 5: You know what is the effect? Because I think this
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  Speaker 5: could be very liberating for him. You know, whatever monkey
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  Speaker 5: he may have had off his back, you know it's
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  Speaker 5: off people can stop saying he can't win the big one.
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  Speaker 5: He is beloved by his teammates. That's just his nature.
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  Speaker 5: He was beloved at USC. They would say he's the
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  Speaker 5: son of a three hundred pound plumber. Because of all
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  Speaker 5: the glitz that you think of USC, he had these
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  Speaker 5: middle class values and that's what he brings to Seattle,
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  Speaker 5: like he is beloved in that locker room.
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  Speaker 3: Trust me.
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  Speaker 5: And there's just he's just the nature of a really
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  Speaker 5: good dude who has no ego, no prima donna in him.
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  Speaker 5: So I think his leadership capacity, how he feels now,
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  Speaker 5: He's always had the you know, the odd things. If
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  Speaker 5: you say there's two attributes of his personality. One is
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  Speaker 5: that he's this like super like humble not not no
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  Speaker 5: zero prima donna factor in him, and that's how he's
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  Speaker 5: been striking his teammates for years, but more.
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  Speaker 3: Than a decade.
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  Speaker 5: But then he has this other Brett Favre quality where
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  Speaker 5: he's just like he lets it rip and he doesn't
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  Speaker 5: care about a mistake, like it's not going to get
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  Speaker 5: him down. Like the the the quality that allowed him
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  Speaker 5: in that regular season game against the Rams on that
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  Speaker 5: Thursday night, after he threw that intercept, that second interception,
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  Speaker 5: that brutal one down in the north end zone. The
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  Speaker 5: quality that allowed him to come back and forget that
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  Speaker 5: and make some of the best throws that that corner
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: route to Cup on the sideline with a dude in
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: his face, Like he came back and gave you some
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: of the most brilliant quarterbacking we've seen from a Seattle
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: quarterback ever in that fourth quarter, that transformation. It's the
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: personality in him that is like, hey, you know, you know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: I'm just flushing that last mistake. Usually you don't see
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  Speaker 5: those two attributes in a guy's personality together.
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  Speaker 2: But he has.
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  Speaker 5: Super great zero prima donn equality and the ability to
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  Speaker 5: to not be bothered by by any pass mistake. So
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  Speaker 5: I think it's you know, he's made that work for
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  Speaker 5: himself now. He he was able to, you know, down
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  Speaker 5: the stretch realize, hey, I got a great football team
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  Speaker 5: around me.
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  Speaker 3: I don't need to force things. So he modified his
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: gamestle a game a little bit. As I said, the
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  Speaker 3: on side of the on set of the segment. You know,
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  Speaker 3: that was all well and good.
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  Speaker 5: Except for the rams and so so yeah, I think
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  Speaker 5: I think he can do it now in weeks one
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: through twelve he threw for two hundred and forty four yards,
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: and weeks thirteen through eighteen.
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  Speaker 3: It was one seventy seven.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: So so as the running game started to climb, the
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  Speaker 5: passing numbers they dropped. So that's something that you know,
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: maybe on his mind, like, hey, let's get back to
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: some of those big plays that we had for three
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: quarters of the season.
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  Speaker 1: All right, man, phenomenal stuff. Thank you very much, delivered
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  Speaker 1: once again. We appreciate you and I love it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: ready for some more.
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  Speaker 3: Ye yeah, all right, all right, there is all right hammer.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Mallet our Seahawks one series continuing with our QB one
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: here today Hugh Millen on Sam Tarnold can't wait to
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: recap that on tomorrow's radio program. Coming up next though, Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's time for Brunch. Sports Radio ninety three point three
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  Speaker 1: kJ R f M. It's chugging Ashley with you. It
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  Speaker 1: is time for the Baseball Brunch here on this Monday.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: It's our new later in the show, recap of the
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: most recent Mariners baseball game. And maybe you don't want
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: to even be reminded.
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  Speaker 2: Of it because it was garbage yesterday.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: The Mariners and the Nationals trying to decide their series.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Mariners dominated on Friday, got dominated on Saturday, and so
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: we rolled into Sunday and let's settle this thing.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 1: Mariners get off to a good start, one to nothing
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  Speaker 1: score in the very first inning.
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  Speaker 2: We have Emerson Hancock on the mound.
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  Speaker 1: What could go wrong? He's been an All Star so
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: far to this point in the season, and everything with
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Emerson anyway, was fine until the bottom of the fourth
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, chaos breaks loose. He
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: gives up a double to Dylan Cruise, and then on
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the very next pitch he throws a single by c. J. Abrams,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: And then the very next pitch he throws a single
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: by Keebert Ruiz scores a run. We're down two to one,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: No big deal. Then on the very next pitch he
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: throws Darren Lyle doubles to right field. Abrams scores. We're
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: down three to one. All right, it's still all run.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe maybe don't throw the poll, you know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: right over the heart of the plate. They seem to
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: be jumping on the first pitch. The very next pitch
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: he throws another base hit, this time by Nasim Nunez
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: to center field, Ruiz and Lyle score. Now it's suddenly
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: five to one. Well, surely now we've learned our lesson
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: that we don't just decide to throw the first pitch
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  Speaker 1: right over the heart of the plate when a team
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: is clearly looking to hit first pitch.
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  Speaker 3: The very next pitch.
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  Speaker 4: Four straight hits make it five.
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  Speaker 3: This time it's Nudiez.
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  Speaker 6: Ruiz scores, Lyle is on his way home and he scores,
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  Speaker 6: and all of a sudden, the Nationals have really opened
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: it up. It's a four run inning with nobody out
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: five one Nats.
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  Speaker 1: It would end up being six to one because the
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: very next pitch again was singled excuse me, a grounder
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: fielder's choice that scored Nuniaz. So within five pitches, the
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Mariners were tied at one and we're trailing six to one,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: not five batters. Within five pitches, they went from one
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: to one to six to one, and nothing was changed up.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Nobody visited Emerson. Emerson didn't decide to waste a pitch
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: or throw something inside to get guys off the plate
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: to stop them from being so aggressive. Ketcher didn't advise
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: him to do so. Ketcher didn't call something outside of
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the zone. Nope, we just kept laying the first pitch
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: in there, and the Nationals just.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Kept knocking it around the ballyard.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Six to one at that point. And then comes the
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: most frustrating part of the entire last five days, and
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: that is, and this stuff happens in baseball. There are
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: games where you're just like, man, the greater good here,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: bigger picture is, I'm not gonna waste bullpen to try
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: to get into a game that we're down by three
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: two three runs in the fifth inning. If we can
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: get back into it, fine, but right now, the goal
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: is to protect the greater good. They do that on occasion.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Teams have to do that, Mariners have to do that,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Dodgers have to do that. Everybody in the sport does it.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: But when you have to watch that brand of baseball
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: four times in five games, oh is that hard to take?
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Boy?
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: That is hard to swallow. And that's the way that
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: we've played. We spent two games in Baltimore, like, the
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: more important thing to do now that we're down is
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: to save our bullpen because they're very tired. And then
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: you get to the weekend and you don't even have
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: to use that bullpen. That you spent two days trying
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: to rehab because you have a blowout win on Friday,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: and then to blowout losses on Saturday and Sunday. So
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: now all those guys that we had to say we
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: just have to pitch because we don't have anybody else
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: to pitch, and so they're not even pitching in leverage
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: situations whatsoever. I do give Dan a little bit of
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: credit because he used Andres Munos six days since he
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: last pitched again, and then Munos lasted about two batters
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: and had something wrong with his back and left the game.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: So I mean, it couldn't have gone worse. You lose
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: two out of three to the Nationals, you get blown
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: out twice, and you lose several players to injury along
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the way. Even Emerson Hancock, who's been as good as
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: anyone on this roster this season, did not adjust. Sports
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: is about adjustments, and he did not adjust in that
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: fourth inning, and then the blink of an eye went
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: from being in a one to one game to a
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: six to one game. Here's Emerson Hancock after the game.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. I think Austin M. John is always employant anytime
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: you're playing any team. So that was pretty that was
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: a pretty rough spot for if I dare. I just
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: didn't think I made an adjustment quick enough and in
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: that inning and just kind of just kind of get
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: snowballing in a way. You know you're getting ahead, but
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: they're just kind of jumping on eaters, And it's kind
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: of how that offense is built to do is just
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: kind of continue to movement and they're going to get
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: on they're going to create having and I just did
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: do a good job of slowing that down and giving
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: us a chance. How tough is it to get into
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: a rhydle point, Like you said, it starts to snowball,
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: and it seemed to happen, So yeah, I mean you're
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: just trying to slow it down, really, and I mean
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: I think you have an idea like how you want
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: to attack, but I think for a lot of those
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: hitters it was on the first pitch, so it's like
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: you really weren't able to get to the count or
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: maybe the other pitches that you wanted, and yeah, just
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: kind of have them.
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  Speaker 3: How excited you guys to get back home.
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: It's going to really lown the road, tread checking credition.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: It's just to get back into a comfortable environment.
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we we love playing at home, we
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: love our fans, and I think just getting back obviously
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: having the off day tomorrow to kind of reset for everybody,
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: and then you know, get after.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: It on Tuesday. How do you kind of assess the
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: world tread I mean, I.
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: Think it's as always as many games players, there's good
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: and bad, and I mean I think just you know,
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: stay together as a team, obviously, reset tomorrow and then
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: get ready for a whole another homestand and just continue
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: to get.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: After Oh, Nana Hancock, even on his worst day of
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: the year, still just sweet as pumpkin pie.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: I was like Nana handguck.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like Nana, reminds me and my Nana. Yeah,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Southern gentlemen, miyam, and Anna was not a Southern gentleman,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: but she was a Southern lady. Southern bell, Southern bell.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: And so the Mariners do lose.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Ten to one on Sunday, they lose two out of
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: three to Washington for the last five games on the
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: road trip, suffered a bunch of injuries, and now try
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: to regroup here on this Monday, which they have off,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: and then they start a homestand tomorrow with Cal Raley,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: JP Crawford looking like they'll be back in the lineup.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Maybe Randy Rose Arena as well after getting injured on Saturday.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: So what did we learn today, kids from the baseball Brunch?
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Number one, the Mariner's goal is to win every game.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: Until it isn't.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: The second thing that we learned today was Emerson was
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: due for a stinker, but the game, all games sports
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: is about adjustments, and I'm glad that he said I
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: didn't make the adjustments in time, because that's what let
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the game get away. And then the third thing that
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: we learned today is Cal and Jp seem to be
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: coming back at the right time, and I think that
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: it will provide a boost to see the two leaders
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: of the team show up ready to play on the
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: exact same day, the day that you get home and
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: start a brand new home series. If it does, let's
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: put it this way, ashulely. If it doesn't provide a lift,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: then man, there is something wrong with this baseball team.
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: I don't even want to think about that, honestly, because
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: that would be very depressing. I mean, especially because I
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: feel like we've got so much buzz going around the
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: city right now. That the one thing would be just
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: buzzier and awesomer as if the Mariners add to that
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: and the excitement, and you've got people double dipping on
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: Friday with the Red Sox and the Team USA and
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: the hype and the fun.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: They better deliver, You're yeah, she's warning you that you
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: better deliver, all right? Coming up next the speaking of
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  Speaker 1: the World Cup. The US was dominant on Friday, Can
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: they continue it? And is there any way to get
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  Speaker 1: Alexi Lawless out of our lives? Sports Radio ninety three
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  Speaker 1: And I'm acting like you didn't do it, You know,
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  Speaker 1: right now, maybe we should be celebrating the person that did.
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  Speaker 8: Because you needed multiple TV on Friday, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 8: You're gonna need him pretty much all this week. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: talk about that US Men's World Cup victory four to
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  Speaker 1: one over the squad from.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I was thinking of Tunisia because Tunisia is in the news.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Today for having already fired its coach. Oh wow, that
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: was quick one match into the.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: So you kept him all the way to the World
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Cup and then you let him coach one match and
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: now he's gone. Huh interesting. Interesting. I guess things are
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  Speaker 1: pretty strict. I guess they run a tight ship around
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the Tunisian soccer program. So he's already gone. But no,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: it was Paraguay who we dominated on Friday by final
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: score of four to one, and pretty much all the
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: analysts I just heard somebody this morning, last thing I
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: heard before I rolled up into the station, saying that's
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: the most impressed he's ever been by a US soccer
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: team ever.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't blame him.
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  Speaker 8: Again, we're not big soccer experts, but I was sitting
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: with soccer people on Friday and they were like, this
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: is incredible. They were super excited, and they didn't have strong,
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: like a lot of confidence going in. They thought the
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: US would win. They didn't think it was going to
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: be like that.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Well, it's hard to I don't know. I don't know
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: how much confidence you can have in this sport. As
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I told Brad Evans last week, I mean, I don't
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: know if anyone should be caught off guard by an upset.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, if it is a sport designed to pretty
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: much it's keep away and pretty much two to one
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: one nothing, or when you're playing on those narrow of
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: a margins and then a penalty could result and somebody
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: making a kick that I could make, you know, I mean,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: when you've gone that far, you've scrapped it out and
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: nobody can score a goal because the defense has been
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: so good during the course of the game and it's
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: a game designed to be low scoring, and then all
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: of a sudden there's somebody trips over themselves in the
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: wrong spot of the field and that person gets to
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: kick a goal that's the size of barn doors past
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: a three foot wide you know, a goalie who has
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: to guess which way they're.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Going to go.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, how do you not have a bunch
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: of upsets in a sport like that? So yeah, how
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: could you ever feel ultra confident no matter who the
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: opponent is going into any match, much less when there's
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: so much at stake for the US and they haven't
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: had a great World Cup history. But to then be
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: treated to an absolute blowout, I mean it was people
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: dancing in the streets.
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, And I don't blame them, because if the US
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: does well in this, I mean, it's one thing to
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: be the host nation, but I feel like being one
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: of the host nations there is extra pressure.
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: You can't go out early. You've got to.
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: Show them that you didn't just earn that spot by
• 33:16
  Speaker 8: being a host nation, and you deserve to be there,
• 33:19
  Speaker 8: you belong there.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: The only problem, the only drawback really for the US
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Soccer weekend was Alexei.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: Lawless oh yeah, what's wrong with him?
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Well, Number one, I cannot stand the professional sports analysts
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: who just gets to the end of every game and
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: just says, well, they.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Wanted it more and they didn't want it. That's not analysis,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: you know, that's so lazy.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: And so every time I've ever seen him, and I
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: haven't watched a lot of it, but every time that's
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: what he does, well, they won because they wanted it more. So,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: number one, I don't think he's very good at it.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: And then number two, he just started the whole broadcast
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: this is it's such a global affair and we are
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: hosting and the world already thinks we're loud and pompous
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: and name callers and everything else. And what does he
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: do loud and pompous and name calling and everything else
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: right out of the shoot And it just got us
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: off to such a I mean, we have a lot
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: of soccer analysts, We've had them on this show in
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: the last week who are respectful and knowledgeable and can
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: represent America in a way that we don't have to
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: showcase the stereotype that the rest of the world holds
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: against us that were loud, at obnoxious and arrogant and
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: yet that's what we put out there, that's what we have.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: The American analyst is somebody who's loud, at obnoxious and arrogant,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: and to me, what a terrible choice. And I'm really
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: tired of him representing American soccer.
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: Frankly well, and I think that that's I would like
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: to think they would think outside the box a little
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: bit more. I understand that he's a well known name
• 35:07
  Speaker 8: in the soccer world in this country. At least we
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: Donna well, I was gonna say, And maybe they don't
• 35:11
  Speaker 8: think we have a lot, but we have a lot
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: more than I think they realize.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: And there would be other options that could have been good.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Coming up next, we have an NBA champion and who
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  Speaker 1: is or what was more responsible the fact that the
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  Speaker 1: Knicks took the championship or that the Spurs gave them
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