Latest / Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash / #Ep 248 Don't Tell Him To Stop Drinking
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I got a question for you. Hit me when you shower?
- 0:03Speaker 1: Exhaust fan on or off? All the time?
- 0:06Speaker 2: Always on? Always on?
- 0:07Speaker 1: Because I didn't know this?
- 0:09Speaker 2: What that?
- 0:09Speaker 3: What else is there for the biggest argument in my
- 0:12Speaker 3: household is because Laura turns the water to molten lava.
- 0:16Speaker 3: And especially now because it's winter, you open the door
- 0:19Speaker 3: and you can't see anything.
- 0:19Speaker 2: It's like a smoke.
- 0:20Speaker 1: That's how I want it.
- 0:21Speaker 2: But then the cabinet tree like absorbs. The cabinet tree
- 0:24Speaker 2: is dying.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just I thought the exhaust was just
- 0:27Speaker 1: for poops only.
- 0:28Speaker 2: What Yeah, but you're a trade you know.
- 0:33Speaker 1: I'm not a I'm not a plumber or an electrician
- 0:36Speaker 1: or in an.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Ash So what do you like? Who's pulled you up?
- 0:39Speaker 2: My wife?
- 0:40Speaker 1: Like you know April? April did because the ceiling was moldy.
- 0:46Speaker 2: That's the problem. Okay, hang on.
- 1:03Speaker 3: Welcome back to two Dating Dads. I'm Maddie J And
- 1:06Speaker 3: I'm Ash And this is.
- 1:07Speaker 2: A podcast all about parenting. It is the good, it
- 1:09Speaker 2: is the bad.
- 1:10Speaker 3: Relatable and Ash, you're trying to kill your family with
- 1:14Speaker 3: this mold.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Honestly, I didn't know it was a I had to
- 1:18Speaker 1: have it. I thought it was a choice.
- 1:19Speaker 2: How old are you thirty six this year? So what
- 1:21Speaker 2: do you be your whole life? Yeah, only you've exclusively
- 1:25Speaker 2: used the exhaust fan for the poops.
- 1:26Speaker 1: Think of how many bathrooms I've ruined.
- 1:28Speaker 2: I don't want to think about that.
- 1:30Speaker 1: Honestly. I was like, it's my choice, the fan horor
- 1:34Speaker 1: off should be up to me.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Do you know what I shouldn't.
- 1:36Speaker 3: I shouldn't attack you for not knowing something which maybe
- 1:39Speaker 3: simple to other people.
- 1:41Speaker 2: You know you've learned.
- 1:42Speaker 1: I'm not going to change, well.
- 1:43Speaker 2: For God's sake.
- 1:44Speaker 1: No, I still think it's got to be consensual.
- 1:47Speaker 2: It's like, you know what this is. It's like, you're
- 1:51Speaker 2: a smoker, okay, and I'd.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Love to see you right now.
- 1:55Speaker 2: And someone goes, hey, actually smoking gives your cancer every weight.
- 2:00Speaker 1: It's not healthy like they said it was.
- 2:01Speaker 2: And you're like, I'm not changing for anyone. You were
- 2:04Speaker 2: you're putting mold in the house of your family.
- 2:06Speaker 1: Yeah, they're cleaners, clean it right up. I just thought
- 2:12Speaker 1: it was a choice. I didn't know.
- 2:13Speaker 2: Well, it's not a choice.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Okay, all right, but it's not as cozy in winter
- 2:18Speaker 1: some I couldn't care less. What do you mean I
- 2:21Speaker 1: want a nice to steam you. When I come out,
- 2:22Speaker 1: I thought this is great. But now I get out
- 2:25Speaker 1: of the show, I'm like, fucking did I even shower?
- 2:27Speaker 1: This sucks I much. We have a cold shower.
- 2:30Speaker 3: I need to speak to April. Actually speaking of bathrooms,
- 2:33Speaker 3: go on. Do you know what's just happened to me?
- 2:36Speaker 3: I went to do a week before we started recording,
- 2:38Speaker 3: and I feel like in our new office, people like
- 2:42Speaker 3: I have not really met anyone, you know, the neighbors,
- 2:45Speaker 3: the people who actually have We're actually we share a
- 2:47Speaker 3: wall with a psychologist.
- 2:48Speaker 1: There's nothing but therapists are ount here, a lot of
- 2:50Speaker 1: therapists on our level, and it seems about right.
- 2:52Speaker 3: And we were building the studio, they were like, I'm
- 2:54Speaker 3: in the middle of a session, could you guys not
- 2:56Speaker 3: That's the only interaction we've had. But I walked down
- 2:58Speaker 3: the hallway and a guy was in front of me
- 3:02Speaker 3: and he winked at me and he said, here going,
- 3:04Speaker 3: And I was like.
- 3:04Speaker 2: We gotta fuck we fuck now.
- 3:08Speaker 1: He's probably a therapist. He's like, do you know what
- 3:10Speaker 1: he's like. He's probably thinking I'm gonna wink at this
- 3:11Speaker 1: guy and then let him think about that for the
- 3:13Speaker 1: rest of the day because he's a therapist.
- 3:15Speaker 3: Well, I don't know it was it was something we
- 3:17Speaker 3: had a moment we're talking about it.
- 3:19Speaker 2: He just like he just winked effortlessly.
- 3:21Speaker 1: And you don't know what it means. So that's what
- 3:23Speaker 1: that's that's part of the trick, the therapy trick. It's
- 3:28Speaker 1: working everything your whole life.
- 3:30Speaker 3: He must have been eating asparagus, because that you're a
- 3:32Speaker 3: all fucking start. Really, it was strong. I was like
- 3:36Speaker 3: pun cane wink, terrible piss ash housekeeping. Yes, I've got some.
- 3:43Speaker 3: It's going to start with some sad news.
- 3:45Speaker 2: Oh great, Buster is not too good. At the moment,
- 3:49Speaker 2: I thought.
- 3:49Speaker 1: He was as dead that you can rip that off a.
- 3:52Speaker 3: It's it's pretty bad. He's currently in that hospital.
- 3:59Speaker 2: Hope.
- 4:01Speaker 3: You don't want to know how much money we spent
- 4:03Speaker 3: on emergency surgery.
- 4:05Speaker 1: He had surgery.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Well, Sunday night just gone.
- 4:10Speaker 3: He literally got up, had a little bit of kibble
- 4:12Speaker 3: in his bowl, came back down and he was just
- 4:16Speaker 3: like a bit uncomfortable, and then he started dry reaching
- 4:19Speaker 3: and I was thinking, fuck, is he eating something? You
- 4:23Speaker 3: know what's going on? Thanks to our last guest with
- 4:26Speaker 3: the chop with the baby lead weening. Yeah, I'm giving
- 4:29Speaker 3: Poppy lots of chops at the moment, which she's loving.
- 4:31Speaker 3: But then Laura was like, where'd the last chop go?
- 4:34Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, cooked bone.
- 4:37Speaker 2: I was like, you were feeding hers like you were.
- 4:40Speaker 3: I gave her the chop, but then you then took
- 4:42Speaker 3: the feeding and we were like, who's fucking a fault here?
- 4:46Speaker 3: So we thought maybe, like hell yeah, but.
- 4:50Speaker 2: He was dry reaching and just like.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Like it was stuck.
- 4:53Speaker 3: You thought maybe it was, so then we're like it
- 4:55Speaker 3: must be the chop bone, but he was shaking as well,
- 5:00Speaker 3: goes Nah, there's a place called sash.
- 5:01Speaker 2: It's a twenty four hour.
- 5:02Speaker 1: They've seen it. I've seen it on the show.
- 5:04Speaker 2: It's fucking great.
- 5:06Speaker 1: Yeah, was it like the show?
- 5:07Speaker 2: What show?
- 5:07Speaker 1: And that's the veterory hospital that's on the show here
- 5:09Speaker 1: because obviously it was one novet but then he got
- 5:11Speaker 1: too big for his boots and they moved on to
- 5:13Speaker 1: it is a.
- 5:13Speaker 2: Great like the I mean, he chunds a lot of money,
- 5:16Speaker 2: so you hope to get a discout. But they're lovely.
- 5:19Speaker 3: They're lovely, and Sunday night, nine point thirty, you go
- 5:22Speaker 3: there and they were like, fuck did a scan. He's
- 5:24Speaker 3: got a twisted stomach, needs an emergency surgery, and they
- 5:28Speaker 3: said it was amazing that you got here as you
- 5:30Speaker 3: did because the longer it's twisted, the cells vet here rash,
- 5:35Speaker 3: but the cells die. Apparently, this is what's been told.
- 5:39Speaker 1: To me by Laura Venory Hospitals. They really got your
- 5:41Speaker 1: brother balls and there because they know you love this thing. Yes,
- 5:44Speaker 1: they're like you fucking they come, they co empty your pockets.
- 5:47Speaker 3: There's got to be times when I mean it.
- 5:49Speaker 1: Was when you're tell them you can't afford it, so
- 5:51Speaker 1: they bring out two year togos, turn you upside down
- 5:53Speaker 1: and shake the money out of you.
- 5:54Speaker 3: Well, there must be times when people don't have insurance
- 5:57Speaker 3: where they just can't afford the bills.
- 5:59Speaker 2: It's got to be it's gotta be fucking tough.
- 6:01Speaker 3: Unfortunately, like, yeah, it's brutal, but we don't have insurance
- 6:06Speaker 3: because Buster has got three legs.
- 6:08Speaker 2: For him to get insurance was like two and a
- 6:09Speaker 2: half grand a year.
- 6:11Speaker 1: Yeah, even though he's less, even though he's less.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's got one less leg to worry about.
- 6:15Speaker 2: And they were like, jake the brons.
- 6:16Speaker 1: Up, Yeah, yeah, anything else missing?
- 6:18Speaker 2: She had surgery. He is pretty old. He's like eleven.
- 6:22Speaker 1: I think were said eleven for three years straight.
- 6:24Speaker 2: I think so well. Laura said he was ten and
- 6:26Speaker 2: I was like.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Yeah, Squeaky's like the same.
- 6:28Speaker 3: I don't think Laura went to him yesterday and he
- 6:30Speaker 3: was so drugged up. Didn't know what that was. But
- 6:33Speaker 3: they said dogs bigger dogs of this age.
- 6:37Speaker 1: Recovery is pretty touch and go, especially got three legs,
- 6:40Speaker 1: like he can't.
- 6:41Speaker 3: Really for him to get around because he's harder. Yeah,
- 6:44Speaker 3: it's going to be it's going to be tough.
- 6:46Speaker 1: Is it on the leg side of the opposite side?
- 6:48Speaker 2: I'm not sure they couldn't put a leg on him
- 6:50Speaker 2: while they were there, or this is my dog?
- 6:52Speaker 1: You talk fine, going to make a full recovery, and
- 6:55Speaker 1: I can't wait to see Buster.
- 6:56Speaker 3: Barket is a time and a place to have a joke. Ash,
- 7:00Speaker 3: you can talk me. I am the most sensitive man here.
- 7:03Speaker 2: Shut up. So yeah, hopefully Buster does. Okay. Laura was
- 7:08Speaker 2: absolutely rattled.
- 7:10Speaker 1: I bet absolutely, because they seem so so. They seem
- 7:14Speaker 1: so hopeless as well, because obviously they can't help themself.
- 7:16Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. You don't know what's
- 7:17Speaker 1: going on.
- 7:18Speaker 3: And also when Laura went to visit him last night,
- 7:20Speaker 3: he was a bit like, why the fuck have you
- 7:22Speaker 3: left me here again? You've done this since she was
- 7:26Speaker 3: trying to give him a little bit of food, hoping
- 7:28Speaker 3: that her being there it did help give him the chicken.
- 7:31Speaker 3: But then yeah, when she leaves, he's like, well, hang
- 7:34Speaker 3: on a second, and you're fucking leaving me again.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Yeah, just like confused.
- 7:38Speaker 3: Yeah, home, So we're gonna go after sorry, Vic, we'll
- 7:43Speaker 3: go this afternoon, have a little visit, see how he's doing,
- 7:47Speaker 3: May take him home maybe tomorrow.
- 7:49Speaker 1: Right yeah, yeah, and they charge you every night.
- 7:52Speaker 2: Fuck god, I want to think about the bill. No,
- 7:55Speaker 2: that's that's future problems.
- 7:57Speaker 1: Exactly right, exactly right. Well, also noticed you wearing a
- 8:01Speaker 1: quite a very striking T shirt today.
- 8:04Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 8:05Speaker 1: It's Frankie.
- 8:06Speaker 3: Yes, Ash, this is the Frankie signature motto, long sleeved
- 8:10Speaker 3: T shirt. It's nice, it's feeling the thickness. Yeah, it's
- 8:14Speaker 3: a thick GSM.
- 8:15Speaker 2: It's actually I'm going to read them. WHOA, I think
- 8:19Speaker 2: it's a GSM.
- 8:20Speaker 1: What's GSM?
- 8:21Speaker 3: And this is supplied by Jackson. He has his daughter
- 8:25Speaker 3: Frankie there on the podcast. Frank on the front of
- 8:27Speaker 3: it makes sense just it says a heavy weight fabric
- 8:32Speaker 3: two hundred and eighty GSM for those.
- 8:33Speaker 2: Playing a hide.
- 8:34Speaker 1: That's some high GSM.
- 8:35Speaker 2: I didn't know what a normal GSM is, but would
- 8:38Speaker 2: it be like a thread count. I think it's just.
- 8:43Speaker 1: I want like spreadsheets.
- 8:44Speaker 2: It's one hundred percent carded cotton. There you go.
- 8:47Speaker 1: I can't complain with that.
- 8:48Speaker 2: It's a great it's great shirt if you know what
- 8:50Speaker 2: it looks like. It's on our socials and it's eighty
- 8:53Speaker 2: five bucks. But the money is all going to a
- 8:55Speaker 2: very good cause.
- 8:56Speaker 3: So the goal is to collaborate with a group of
- 8:58Speaker 3: organizations to create something bigger and combine the fundraising efforts.
- 9:02Speaker 3: They hope collectively to donate a Trexo Robotics walker to
- 9:06Speaker 3: either a clinic or a family. So if we can
- 9:09Speaker 3: buy this shirt raise the money, those in need are
- 9:12Speaker 3: going to benefit so much.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it sounds expensive that thing, so get buying them.
- 9:17Speaker 1: They look cool.
- 9:17Speaker 2: I like this.
- 9:18Speaker 1: They're riding up the sleeve at de side of that
- 9:19Speaker 1: was that say Superstar powered by cart It's cool. I
- 9:24Speaker 1: like it.
- 9:24Speaker 2: I am a superstar, you are, so it's very fitting
- 9:27Speaker 2: that I wear this.
- 9:28Speaker 1: Yes, Matt, I was on a podcast you might have
- 9:31Speaker 1: heard of before.
- 9:32Speaker 2: Which one was it?
- 9:33Speaker 1: Lifetime cut?
- 9:34Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not very good average. Yeah are they still
- 9:37Speaker 3: going there?
- 9:38Speaker 1: Look they're holding on. I mean the numbers go up
- 9:41Speaker 1: now that I've been there. They used me. I feel
- 9:44Speaker 1: used in a good way. Yeah. I liked it, but
- 9:48Speaker 1: I found out of some very important information.
- 9:51Speaker 2: Well hang on, just quickly, just quickly. How did it go?
- 9:54Speaker 1: It was good because you were doing and asking cut, asking,
- 9:56Speaker 1: cut A couple of questions.
- 9:57Speaker 2: What questions did you get? Give me one like, what was.
- 9:59Speaker 1: Some guy who who told his wife he's going surfing
- 10:01Speaker 1: but he just sits in his car and scrolls on
- 10:03Speaker 1: his phone. You aba wrote all the questions in there.
- 10:09Speaker 1: We talked about drinking.
- 10:11Speaker 2: Did you give serious advice or we silly? Ash was
- 10:14Speaker 2: because there's two ashes.
- 10:15Speaker 1: I was both. I got a little bit of both.
- 10:17Speaker 2: Ah.
- 10:17Speaker 1: Yeah, I can change gears like that.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that.
- 10:20Speaker 1: It was good.
- 10:21Speaker 2: How's Laura?
- 10:21Speaker 1: She looked great. Yeah, she's thriving as a mum and
- 10:26Speaker 1: as a podcaster, Thank you, and as a wife. Very
- 10:29Speaker 1: kind of you to say that she didn't have a
- 10:31Speaker 1: very nice thing to say about you. What do you mean,
- 10:34Speaker 1: let you sort that out when you get home. Anyway,
- 10:39Speaker 1: throw that grenade in there. No, she loves you. It
- 10:42Speaker 1: was good, But I have some information. So recently you
- 10:46Speaker 1: told a story about spending more time with you mum,
- 10:48Speaker 1: which I think is amazing. They're not going to be
- 10:50Speaker 1: with us forever. What a guy? What a guy? And
- 10:53Speaker 1: that's what everyone says, what a guy? And the options
- 10:55Speaker 1: were to you started watching a documentary with it a
- 10:58Speaker 1: specifically a World War II documentary, because you and your
- 11:02Speaker 1: mum are quite into that sort of stuff, and you
- 11:05Speaker 1: actually chose to watch that over having sexual intercourse with
- 11:08Speaker 1: your wife.
- 11:09Speaker 2: I mean, we all would have made the same decision, right, Yes,
- 11:11Speaker 2: you had some what do they call it rustered romance
- 11:14Speaker 2: that you denied, deny, denied in favor of Tom Hanks
- 11:18Speaker 2: in World War Two.
- 11:19Speaker 1: Yes, so Tom Hanks a twenty part series.
- 11:20Speaker 2: Any man in my position would have done the same thing.
- 11:23Speaker 1: But someone else in your house has taken claim to
- 11:25Speaker 1: being a World War two fan. It's not you or
- 11:29Speaker 1: your mum. Go on, Can I please have the audio
- 11:32Speaker 1: from said life on cut? Just a small podcast that's
- 11:36Speaker 1: up and coming.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Good luck to them, good luck the.
- 11:38Speaker 4: Most comprehensive World War Two, and I've watched a lot
- 11:42Speaker 4: of World War Two stuff in the last couple of
- 11:44Speaker 4: years since living with Ellie.
- 11:45Speaker 1: It's the most comprehensive.
- 11:46Speaker 4: But because it's narrated by Tom Hanks and it's been
- 11:49Speaker 4: done with a real not I don't want to say
- 11:51Speaker 4: it's got the Hollywood effect because it certainly doesn't have
- 11:54Speaker 4: that more palatable Maybe it's just it's done in a
- 11:57Speaker 4: way that I find is not too dry, and it's very,
- 11:59Speaker 4: very interesting.
- 12:00Speaker 1: I am not a history person.
- 12:01Speaker 4: I am not someone who would normally sit through that
- 12:03Speaker 4: much World War content, and I have found it thoroughly
- 12:06Speaker 4: like it's been for me. It's probably the first time
- 12:08Speaker 4: where I've actually watched that type of history content and
- 12:11Speaker 4: being like, I have thoroughly enjoyed this, And I don't
- 12:14Speaker 4: know if war content is something you can say you
- 12:15Speaker 4: thoroughly enjoy. And I love Tom Haiks.
- 12:17Speaker 1: So I was like, love sounds like it would make
- 12:20Speaker 1: me better at my trivia game. It truly was.
- 12:22Speaker 4: One of those ones where I was like, he could
- 12:24Speaker 4: talk about anything.
- 12:25Speaker 1: Box of chocolates, Tom has got options at your house.
- 12:31Speaker 3: The whole time she's on her phone, she wasn't watching.
- 12:34Speaker 3: I was like, I was like, can you believe that
- 12:36Speaker 3: they're trying to invade staling Grad right now?
- 12:38Speaker 1: The sixth Army, the old invasion of Stalin staling Grad
- 12:42Speaker 1: or Starling stelling Grad?
- 12:43Speaker 3: Who is And she's on her phone. She needs to
- 12:46Speaker 3: stop pretending she's fake, Laura, She's not.
- 12:48Speaker 2: Wow.
- 12:49Speaker 1: I was shocked.
- 12:50Speaker 2: My mum was like, and Laura, can you believe that
- 12:54Speaker 2: it took three attempts for Germany to invade Russia and
- 12:57Speaker 2: on the third attempt is what stopped them? And then
- 12:59Speaker 2: they had the Western Front start after that, which Germany
- 13:02Speaker 2: would never recover from. And Laura's just like, yeah, that's
- 13:05Speaker 2: that's pretty crazy.
- 13:06Speaker 1: Yeah, and then gets to it gets to her place
- 13:08Speaker 1: of work. I really love this documentary.
- 13:11Speaker 2: Tom has What a guy. It's such an interesting topic, Hilaura.
- 13:15Speaker 2: He could say anything, I could say anything. She doesn't
- 13:20Speaker 2: value the war like I did.
- 13:21Speaker 1: No, exactly right. There's a character on a TV show
- 13:24Speaker 1: called peep Show who he's obsessed with Stalin and all
- 13:28Speaker 1: of that sort of stuff like that, and you just
- 13:29Speaker 1: sounded exactly.
- 13:30Speaker 2: Like he's just like, yeah, I've got ten episodes left.
- 13:35Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and my mom is still like, we finished
- 13:39Speaker 2: dinner and she's like, should we watch one?
- 13:41Speaker 1: And then?
- 13:42Speaker 2: And then we'll watch one? And she's like, can we
- 13:44Speaker 2: do another one? How long can we do one? More
- 13:46Speaker 2: like fifty minutes?
- 13:47Speaker 1: Three hours of World War? Are you starting to dream
- 13:50Speaker 1: in World War two? Now?
- 13:51Speaker 2: I think about it a lot.
- 13:52Speaker 1: It's where keeps riding home?
- 13:55Speaker 2: So close, so close to Hitler winning the war. It's
- 13:57Speaker 2: it's scary to think about it win.
- 14:00Speaker 1: I don't know much about war.
- 14:01Speaker 2: My fucking god, did he win? Ash?
- 14:04Speaker 1: I wish to ask Laura because she would know.
- 14:07Speaker 3: First it's event in the bathroom. Yeah, now it's World
- 14:11Speaker 3: War two.
- 14:12Speaker 2: I have a lot to educate you on.
- 14:14Speaker 1: Thank you. I better come over and watch this, watch this,
- 14:19Speaker 1: this documentary said thank you. I wouldn't. I couldn't sit
- 14:23Speaker 1: through it. I could barely sit through that sentence. My sentence,
- 14:27Speaker 1: not yours.
- 14:28Speaker 3: I just want to find someone out there, he's not
- 14:30Speaker 3: my own mother, who appreciates World War Two like I do.
- 14:33Speaker 2: If there's anyone out there who does, please speak to me.
- 14:36Speaker 1: I do have a friend who really loves World War
- 14:38Speaker 1: He's spoke for you can't have him as well.
- 14:41Speaker 2: Hey, how's the book going?
- 14:42Speaker 1: Well? We had a bit of a what I thought
- 14:44Speaker 1: was a technical difficulty on the presale on the Big
- 14:47Speaker 1: W website because it was showing sold out of a presale.
- 14:51Speaker 1: But apparently they have sold out of pre allocated books.
- 14:56Speaker 1: How's that secret ingredient? Fuck knows they have, but they
- 15:01Speaker 1: have allegedly, So I mean, good news, I guess.
- 15:04Speaker 2: But so will there be more pre sale books available?
- 15:08Speaker 5: Well?
- 15:08Speaker 1: As of tomorrow it's actually available in store. Oh yeah,
- 15:12Speaker 1: So the twenty ninth is the actual official launch. Whether
- 15:15Speaker 1: they turned up or not and on the shelf or
- 15:18Speaker 1: not will depend on who's work and the shift that day.
- 15:21Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you trying to figure out how you
- 15:23Speaker 3: sell out or something that's not there?
- 15:25Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I don't know either. I don't
- 15:27Speaker 1: know much. So yeah, that's Hitler.
- 15:31Speaker 2: The book industry, it's a wild Beast's a wild how
- 15:35Speaker 2: they work.
- 15:36Speaker 1: So it'll be available in Big W as of the
- 15:39Speaker 1: twenty ninth. Give it a week just in case.
- 15:42Speaker 2: Are you doing a book signing? No, you're not doing
- 15:45Speaker 2: a book.
- 15:45Speaker 1: I'll go through that again.
- 15:47Speaker 2: Jesus, I'm going to go to a dimics book store.
- 15:50Speaker 1: No, they make you do it. Thank god. People thought
- 15:53Speaker 1: we were go.
- 15:55Speaker 3: For anyone who's confused. Ash And when we read our book,
- 15:58Speaker 3: people kept thinking that we were too gay dads, and
- 16:00Speaker 3: we're brave.
- 16:01Speaker 1: And we did a signing and a middle aged woman
- 16:04Speaker 1: came out to us to go. My kids were practically
- 16:06Speaker 1: raised by the gays, and Matt said, those heteros you
- 16:09Speaker 1: gonna look out for, and they were kissed.
- 16:12Speaker 2: I don't know what I think.
- 16:13Speaker 1: We're gay.
- 16:14Speaker 2: You'll be in a bookstore. Let us know when when
- 16:16Speaker 2: it happens.
- 16:16Speaker 1: If if I'm not doing that, I'm not doing that.
- 16:18Speaker 1: Make you if you want to sign copy, just message me.
- 16:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 16:24Speaker 1: That would If I had to do that on my own,
- 16:26Speaker 1: the anxiety be too much.
- 16:27Speaker 2: I'd come with you. Just sit there in the corner.
- 16:30Speaker 1: We should dress you up as me and see if
- 16:33Speaker 1: anyone knows I just.
- 16:34Speaker 2: I would just I'd be like the proud boyfriend in
- 16:36Speaker 2: the corner.
- 16:36Speaker 1: You get the money.
- 16:38Speaker 3: Hey, we've got a message from Lauren and Lauren Mitchell.
- 16:42Speaker 3: If you are listening right now, well played. You told
- 16:46Speaker 3: me that if anyone wants a shout out, we have
- 16:47Speaker 3: to say is that I've been a dotas since day one,
- 16:49Speaker 3: and you got me.
- 16:50Speaker 1: We're just doing it. Don't say that and the whole
- 16:53Speaker 1: ep we'll have to do a shout out episode.
- 16:55Speaker 2: That's fine every two weeks.
- 16:57Speaker 3: She messaged in on the DMS to two doting ads
- 17:00Speaker 3: Instagram and said, hey guys, I'm a recent dodor and
- 17:02Speaker 3: loving Oh wait recent dota next.
- 17:06Speaker 2: What I just read what I wanted to hear you?
- 17:09Speaker 1: Yes, just done it for life?
- 17:11Speaker 2: Okay, sorry for now you're in it. Wow.
- 17:14Speaker 3: But she said that maybe because she gave us a compliment,
- 17:17Speaker 3: she said, laugh out loud, relatable parenting content. And she's
- 17:19Speaker 3: been making away through all of the episodes. While she's
- 17:22Speaker 3: on Matt Lee with the newborn and a toddler, congratulations,
- 17:24Speaker 3: and she goes, I wanted to share with you my
- 17:26Speaker 3: husband's podcast as I thought it might interest you, as
- 17:29Speaker 3: NRL fans called the Big Hits podcast. Yes, it does,
- 17:33Speaker 3: like a deep analytical dive into like NRL topics.
- 17:37Speaker 1: It's different some point of different.
- 17:38Speaker 2: I like that.
- 17:39Speaker 3: And so, Lauren, because you messaged me and buttered me up,
- 17:43Speaker 3: there is your plug for you and your husband.
- 17:45Speaker 2: You're welcome.
- 17:46Speaker 1: That's all you gotta do, is buttery. What's it called again?
- 17:48Speaker 3: The Big Hit, The Big Hits, The Big Hits, The
- 17:50Speaker 3: Big Hits, podcast.
- 17:51Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure you can search it on Instagram for
- 17:53Speaker 1: the wives and the mums out there when you send
- 17:55Speaker 1: this to your husband, sending that one too, But make
- 17:57Speaker 1: sure you listen to us first, us first, then get
- 18:00Speaker 1: the analytical dad to.
- 18:01Speaker 3: Be like, Okay, what have we got here? Got parenting
- 18:03Speaker 3: podcast or NURL podcast?
- 18:05Speaker 1: Actually forget said that, Matt. We have a hack. I
- 18:08Speaker 1: showed you a hack from a teacher who can have
- 18:11Speaker 1: the dirtiest wet wipe essentially help the class clean up,
- 18:14Speaker 1: which I thought was genius.
- 18:15Speaker 2: Chlorox. They call it chlorox over there. I think chlorox
- 18:19Speaker 2: is the spray and wipe.
- 18:20Speaker 1: Spray and wipe is such a nicer name.
- 18:23Speaker 3: Spray and wipe it chloro It's like you're gonna kill
- 18:27Speaker 3: someone like chloroform.
- 18:28Speaker 1: Or yeah, there's always called chloroform. I think it's lazy
- 18:31Speaker 1: that people just put a chemical in a bottle and
- 18:33Speaker 1: be like in staid of naming it was just call
- 18:35Speaker 1: it the chemical. Call it something fun, yeah, like spray
- 18:39Speaker 1: and wipe, spray and wipe and don't get it in your.
- 18:42Speaker 2: Eyes something like that does suck in the eyes.
- 18:45Speaker 1: Yes, anyway, So this was off the back of that.
- 18:48Speaker 1: It's from a teacher. Nay Nne Nyna has another cleaning.
- 18:54Speaker 1: She's got a recommendation. It's called a hack. Another one
- 18:56Speaker 1: is secret rubbish for those extra messy days where there
- 19:00Speaker 1: is paper, pencils, et cetera laying all over the floor.
- 19:03Speaker 1: Declare that there is a secret piece of rubbish in
- 19:06Speaker 1: the room and that you will look to see who
- 19:08Speaker 1: finds it as they clean and tidy.
- 19:12Speaker 2: That is very clever, very conniving, except Okay, my question
- 19:16Speaker 2: to you, Nina, what if they find it, Well.
- 19:19Speaker 3: Then you've got so many I guess teachers. They're going
- 19:21Speaker 3: to behave for the for the teachers, because if I
- 19:23Speaker 3: do it with my kids, unless everyone wins, we have.
- 19:27Speaker 1: A game where I just yell at them to put
- 19:28Speaker 1: it away, and they put it away. That's the game.
- 19:33Speaker 6: Work.
- 19:33Speaker 1: I'm like, I told her to put it away.
- 19:35Speaker 2: The spinning wheel gymnastics fucking hell, I thought we were
- 19:38Speaker 2: good last night, picked the kids up fucking Shazzy pants.
- 19:41Speaker 1: One Chas wins everything.
- 19:43Speaker 2: Chazzy is my niece, and the wheel is what you
- 19:45Speaker 2: spin at the end of every gymnastics class to see
- 19:47Speaker 2: if you win a toy.
- 19:48Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessary though, is it?
- 19:50Speaker 2: No?
- 19:51Speaker 1: No, no, it is not truly setting this up.
- 19:53Speaker 2: It's like ushies, I forget on the next episode.
- 19:58Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk about that, and we'll talk about
- 19:59Speaker 1: it on when stay on the line until Wednesday.
- 20:02Speaker 3: And it's spinning with like Wheel of Fortune type wheel
- 20:05Speaker 3: and the thing the little was like on the nail
- 20:08Speaker 3: and was like oh, and the lady was like, you
- 20:11Speaker 3: can have it, Lola Boom nails it Marley, and I'm like,
- 20:15Speaker 3: I just know that she's not going to get it.
- 20:17Speaker 2: Marley doesn't get it. And then Marley's like, can I
- 20:19Speaker 2: go again? And I'm like, no respect the wheel?
- 20:26Speaker 1: Do you think they asked on Wheel of Fortune?
- 20:28Speaker 6: No?
- 20:28Speaker 1: Also, they should bring back Wheel of Fortune.
- 20:30Speaker 2: I love that show.
- 20:31Speaker 1: I miss it.
- 20:32Speaker 3: And then the lady's like the rules that are loose,
- 20:36Speaker 3: Like the lady on Reception, she's got a big bucket
- 20:38Speaker 3: of toys, like two cent toys and she's just like
- 20:42Speaker 3: that serious, I can get out of here, Charlotte. And
- 20:45Speaker 3: then Marley was like, can I still have a toy?
- 20:48Speaker 3: And the lady was about to reach in and I was.
- 20:50Speaker 2: Like she must learn wow.
- 20:53Speaker 3: I was I'm building resilience and I'm like, remember, Marley,
- 20:56Speaker 3: you didn't win okay on this Occasian you're a loser.
- 21:01Speaker 2: Oh my god, okay, Chassy Pants and Lola win it.
- 21:05Speaker 1: Chazy Jasey Jersey.
- 21:09Speaker 3: And Marley just was like she was She was like
- 21:12Speaker 3: millimeters away from the toy bucket and I was.
- 21:15Speaker 2: Like, we're going out of here, and she just flipped out.
- 21:18Speaker 2: And then I.
- 21:18Speaker 1: Wonder why thing, You're just like, I'm building resilience.
- 21:22Speaker 3: I'm teaching lessons fair, fair, I'm teaching lessons fair.
- 21:26Speaker 1: Did you yell do that?
- 21:28Speaker 2: No?
- 21:28Speaker 3: Never yell, but I did the old like she's kicking
- 21:30Speaker 3: and screaming, and I was just like ylk oh okay,
- 21:33Speaker 3: and then the dragout and I'm like, because we're leaving
- 21:36Speaker 3: as another class is starting, so all the parents are
- 21:39Speaker 3: looking at me with the happy kids going into classes.
- 21:41Speaker 2: I'm like like.
- 21:43Speaker 3: Looks like I'm abducting a child. And I'm like, she's more,
- 21:46Speaker 3: don't worried.
- 21:47Speaker 1: She just didn't win on the wheel. They're like, oh god,
- 21:49Speaker 1: I get it, totally get it. One of these days
- 21:53Speaker 1: she's gonna win. Hopefully feel it.
- 21:56Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm an idiot, guys, Lola is going to
- 22:01Speaker 2: be pissed off with me.
- 22:03Speaker 3: We got one hundred days of KINDI coming up and
- 22:06Speaker 3: at our school, you have the option to dress up
- 22:07Speaker 3: as something to do with one hundred Yeah, what is
- 22:10Speaker 3: that other than one hundred one?
- 22:11Speaker 2: Dumbation?
- 22:12Speaker 1: Last night? She's in the World World War. Should be
- 22:14Speaker 1: able to tell you something that's one hundred years old?
- 22:16Speaker 2: Who ye, Salon.
- 22:20Speaker 3: So we're doing a dress up and I was like, look,
- 22:23Speaker 3: you have a look online.
- 22:24Speaker 2: You can pick a costume. Pick something.
- 22:27Speaker 3: You're going to love it. She was like, great, so
- 22:29Speaker 3: she picked this. She had little dress that.
- 22:32Speaker 2: She can wear.
- 22:33Speaker 1: She's going as a hundred year old.
- 22:35Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, thank you.
- 22:38Speaker 3: Except she was hell bent, hell bent on the walking stick.
- 22:44Speaker 3: The most important part of that costume is the walking stick.
- 22:47Speaker 3: She was like, that's what I need. The walking stick
- 22:49Speaker 3: is like most important?
- 22:50Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a must have. No, yeah, the must
- 22:52Speaker 2: have was the walking stick. Right.
- 22:54Speaker 3: Can you see anything in particular about the walking stick,
- 22:57Speaker 3: anything that you notice? It's not a not a legit
- 22:59Speaker 3: walking stick. It is a to blow up.
- 23:02Speaker 2: It's a fucking blow up. Okay, these motherfuckers.
- 23:07Speaker 3: I put a fucking photo of a walking stick on
- 23:09Speaker 3: the online listing.
- 23:10Speaker 1: They even did one of them leaning on it, leaning
- 23:12Speaker 1: on it. How sturdy is that blue?
- 23:14Speaker 2: That's very deceiving, right, yeah.
- 23:17Speaker 3: And so the box came. The guy like, here you go,
- 23:19Speaker 3: here's your little Amazon box and I was like yeah.
- 23:21Speaker 3: I was like where does the stick like an extend?
- 23:26Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 23:26Speaker 1: Ye.
- 23:28Speaker 3: And so this afternoon, like Lola was like, she's very
- 23:31Speaker 3: particular about like, so when does it come today?
- 23:33Speaker 2: Is it tomorrow? Is it the next day?
- 23:35Speaker 3: I said, no, it's coming today, So when you come
- 23:36Speaker 3: home from school it'll be there. She was like, when
- 23:39Speaker 3: I come home from school, it's there, not the next
- 23:41Speaker 3: day today. And I'm like, yes, today. So I'm going
- 23:44Speaker 3: to pick her up and I'm going.
- 23:45Speaker 2: To have to tell her that the walking stick is inflatable.
- 23:48Speaker 1: Oh, you're gonna have to stop it like a.
- 23:50Speaker 2: Medical center or like I'm going to have to just
- 23:52Speaker 2: want an old person.
- 23:53Speaker 1: Don't pass an old person home and just yoink one. Yeah,
- 23:56Speaker 1: they won't be able to catch you because they won't
- 23:57Speaker 1: be able to walk.
- 23:57Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.
- 23:59Speaker 1: Oh you get a piece of timber.
- 24:01Speaker 2: I'm like, will she accept the inflatable walking stick?
- 24:04Speaker 1: Probably not. You could probably use it for other things
- 24:07Speaker 1: like hitting people. I don't know, but like you.
- 24:10Speaker 7: Need it safer for school, I guess.
- 24:12Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 24:13Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Actually, you make that's why we have
- 24:15Speaker 1: a mummy.
- 24:16Speaker 3: I was going to say the teachers said you couldn't
- 24:18Speaker 3: have a real walking stick, but then I know there's
- 24:20Speaker 3: going to be some fuckers out there at school who
- 24:22Speaker 3: do have the real walking stick.
- 24:23Speaker 2: And then I was like I was down here like
- 24:25Speaker 2: a fucking loser with an inflatable walking stick. And then
- 24:28Speaker 2: Frankie's over there with a bloody mahogany stick.
- 24:32Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 24:32Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got like tazzy oak. Yeah, stained it up.
- 24:36Speaker 1: He's like polishing, polishing it. Just go, honestly, go to
- 24:40Speaker 1: like a two dollar shop and buy one. They would
- 24:41Speaker 1: have like a cheap little ship one in there, but
- 24:44Speaker 1: they don't know how to take it at school.
- 24:45Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 24:45Speaker 3: I was that was my that was my like fallback
- 24:47Speaker 3: lie bloody hundred days, but also at our hundred days
- 24:51Speaker 3: that don't allow the parents.
- 24:52Speaker 2: To come to school.
- 24:53Speaker 1: Why what do you want to go for?
- 24:56Speaker 2: Do I have to come? Thank you the costume and
- 24:59Speaker 2: person to put it on that before she leaves the house.
- 25:01Speaker 2: Then I want to see it.
- 25:02Speaker 1: I want to see it amongst her peers.
- 25:04Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, can I tell you what we had to
- 25:06Speaker 6: do for our hundred days this yesterday, every kid had
- 25:09Speaker 6: to bring in one hundred items of something like.
- 25:13Speaker 7: That's so mean, skittles, Like, what do you go for?
- 25:17Speaker 7: We went for cheesels and then I was like, it's a.
- 25:19Speaker 2: Lot of cheesels.
- 25:20Speaker 7: Though I know I bought three packs.
- 25:21Speaker 1: Isn't it.
- 25:24Speaker 6: It's actually only one pack and a little bit extra
- 25:28Speaker 6: that we had to count them out.
- 25:30Speaker 7: Hundred you get eighty six cheesels per pack.
- 25:32Speaker 3: They just in the corner salivating.
- 25:35Speaker 7: Yes, we ate them.
- 25:37Speaker 6: But I asked Louis when he came home and he's like, oh, yeah,
- 25:40Speaker 6: we didn't even do them because apparently they were too messy.
- 25:42Speaker 7: I was like, what, I went to the shops before school.
- 25:46Speaker 1: Hundred of that's just so ridiculous, I know.
- 25:50Speaker 7: But they got to wear just colored clothes.
- 25:53Speaker 2: That's great.
- 25:53Speaker 7: Yeah, which is easier.
- 25:55Speaker 6: I know a lot of schools do the costumes and
- 25:56Speaker 6: everyone goes as grannies.
- 25:57Speaker 1: We've already got book week.
- 25:58Speaker 2: Can I have a business idea? Go?
- 26:01Speaker 3: Okay, So we need to find a factory somewhere in Asia,
- 26:06Speaker 3: and we needed to make as many like old lady
- 26:08Speaker 3: wigs and walking sticks as possible because we'd clean up.
- 26:12Speaker 1: Dude, we clean up real real walking stick, real white.
- 26:15Speaker 2: What's the cheap wood babboo?
- 26:17Speaker 1: You just getting Sean Kenny down? What's that just downing?
- 26:21Speaker 2: Oh there you go, Thank you very much. We can
- 26:22Speaker 2: sell that. We co the schools.
- 26:24Speaker 1: Does it seem like a big hassle? Yes? Is it
- 26:27Speaker 1: worth it?
- 26:27Speaker 2: Yes?
- 26:28Speaker 7: You could also chuck in some book week costumes.
- 26:31Speaker 1: Oh yeah, write it down. I haven't said it in
- 26:35Speaker 1: a while. Write it down, put.
- 26:36Speaker 2: It on, sir. Everyones buy them last minute and you're.
- 26:38Speaker 1: Like, yeah. The thing is.
- 26:40Speaker 3: Though, people paying thirty bucks for a bloody wig and
- 26:42Speaker 3: a pair of spectacles, And there's so like book Week.
- 26:45Speaker 1: You've got book Week and everything else in school? Did
- 26:48Speaker 1: Marlin you have school discos?
- 26:49Speaker 2: We haven't a disco yet.
- 26:50Speaker 1: What they're missing out on it? It's like a rave?
- 26:54Speaker 1: Are you going I drop them off? But I'm like
- 26:56Speaker 1: that's right in the car.
- 26:58Speaker 2: It's like yeah, I'm.
- 27:00Speaker 1: Like, get me out of here. Players's too many kids,
- 27:02Speaker 1: too much florial for me.
- 27:03Speaker 2: But it's like, are the raves drop and go?
- 27:05Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 27:06Speaker 2: Who plays?
- 27:08Speaker 1: I think it's just one of the teachers the DJ now,
- 27:10Speaker 1: But they fully set.
- 27:11Speaker 2: It up old schools.
- 27:16Speaker 1: With a horn. That's got a theme, so there's no God,
- 27:20Speaker 1: it's just we.
- 27:21Speaker 7: Also have the Commonwealth Games Day this week.
- 27:24Speaker 3: Can I just say credit to any athlete representing Australia
- 27:28Speaker 3: right now in the Cornwealth Game But does anyone give
- 27:30Speaker 3: a fuck?
- 27:31Speaker 1: Not really? And it's it's and do you know what
- 27:34Speaker 1: it's because of the ex Melbourne premiere. That's why. Because
- 27:37Speaker 1: he committed got scale back and then they because it
- 27:41Speaker 1: got scaled back, so many athletes right now, No, no to
- 27:44Speaker 1: the athletes, their sports got cut. So those people who
- 27:46Speaker 1: had been training for those years for their chance to
- 27:50Speaker 1: go to the Cornwealth Games all of a sudden had
- 27:52Speaker 1: to be like, you don't have a purpose.
- 27:53Speaker 2: Now what was it like badminton diving or big loss?
- 27:56Speaker 3: Joking joking on badmington plays diving diving, Sam Fricker sand
- 28:01Speaker 3: Frica not going to see his cock on TV.
- 28:02Speaker 2: No, that's a real loss.
- 28:04Speaker 1: He's a grower anyway, so you're not missing.
- 28:06Speaker 2: Actually I have. There were a couple of interviews on
- 28:08Speaker 2: the news for the swimmers in DTS and this is
- 28:12Speaker 2: going to sound weird. I don't want to sexualize the athletes.
- 28:15Speaker 1: Were they males?
- 28:16Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, but okay, when you're wearing DT's ash.
- 28:22Speaker 2: Do you like rest your cock up or down?
- 28:26Speaker 1: Why is yours going up?
- 28:27Speaker 2: No, the mine's down and this guy's cock was up.
- 28:31Speaker 1: It might be better for the engineering of the water
- 28:34Speaker 1: to go the flow.
- 28:36Speaker 2: It was like his cock was like oh instead of
- 28:39Speaker 2: like down.
- 28:40Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, it was up.
- 28:41Speaker 2: And he's being interviewed. He's like, well, you know my
- 28:43Speaker 2: breash stroke and my pet event, and I was like,
- 28:45Speaker 2: watch your cocks like.
- 28:48Speaker 1: It's probably going to be one of those things where
- 28:50Speaker 1: it's like I'm missing out by two hundreds of a second.
- 28:53Speaker 1: It's like, tucky cockback cut, tucky cock back down. It's
- 28:57Speaker 1: better for water flowing streamline. It's a concave.
- 28:59Speaker 2: Those are athletes should not be wearing dts outside of
- 29:02Speaker 2: the pool. It's like if your post swim.
- 29:05Speaker 3: Sure, I get it, but you shouldn't be like at
- 29:08Speaker 3: a press conference with your bloody cock resting upwards.
- 29:10Speaker 2: I know someone's got to tell his athletes.
- 29:12Speaker 1: Someone's going to be like, I can see the imprint
- 29:14Speaker 1: of it. Please don't know what it's called. It's called
- 29:16Speaker 1: catching print. Let me just the science of catching print. Okay, okay,
- 29:21Speaker 1: we all know what campbeltos are. Sorry, we shut up.
- 29:24Speaker 1: We all know what cameltoes are, yes, yes, okay, right,
- 29:28Speaker 1: but this is a man version. It's not a moose knuckle.
- 29:30Speaker 1: It's a catching catching print. Okay, so it's it's actually
- 29:35Speaker 1: coined by women, okay. Where it's like, oh I can
- 29:38Speaker 1: see the outline of his cock catching print, catching print, right,
- 29:42Speaker 1: I never heard that. There you go can look at it.
- 29:43Speaker 1: It was a big thing on TikTok with the youth,
- 29:47Speaker 1: with the youth anyway, but.
- 29:48Speaker 2: Big shout out to all the athletes over in Glasgow
- 29:51Speaker 2: doing their best to Glasgow. Yeah, Glasgow, Yeah, Glassgow. Know. Yeah.
- 29:58Speaker 2: Matt Shervington's speaking big cocks.
- 30:02Speaker 1: He won the three legged race.
- 30:03Speaker 2: I messaged him. I messaged him to come on the podcast.
- 30:05Speaker 1: Do you bring your cock on it?
- 30:07Speaker 2: Right back? And then I put on the TV and
- 30:09Speaker 2: then I was like, oh, he's hosting the comic game.
- 30:12Speaker 1: Because whenever we do see him, he's like, how are
- 30:13Speaker 1: you fellas? I'll bring my cock. He creagon. He's the
- 30:19Speaker 1: reason for a lot of babies born after that the
- 30:22Speaker 1: nine months after those races.
- 30:23Speaker 2: And also if Matt Shervington is listening.
- 30:26Speaker 1: He does like the podcast, nice cock, he won't come on.
- 30:31Speaker 2: Now we have some doted dilemmas.
- 30:34Speaker 1: Okay, now you need.
- 30:37Speaker 5: Us more than ever, know that we still have each other.
- 30:41Speaker 5: You can say sure doting dilemma. You can sure doting dilemma.
- 30:46Speaker 5: Ella e.
- 30:50Speaker 3: Ash this first one. I'm not going to say her name.
- 30:52Speaker 3: As much as they do want to give her a
- 30:54Speaker 3: shout out. I think it's best if I keep it anonymous.
- 30:56Speaker 3: But she says, my best thing and I now live
- 30:58Speaker 3: two and a half hours away from each other, and
- 31:00Speaker 3: I'm wondering if it's time to let.
- 31:02Speaker 2: The friendship go.
- 31:03Speaker 1: It's a bit drastic.
- 31:05Speaker 2: Hang on like you sure do it?
- 31:09Speaker 1: Oky do it?
- 31:10Speaker 2: You won't.
- 31:12Speaker 3: Their kid is a little bit any social and never
- 31:14Speaker 3: plays with mine when we finally do meet. Her kid
- 31:17Speaker 3: is four, mine is three, and her kid naps are
- 31:21Speaker 3: always prioritized over my kids' naps too, So I do
- 31:25Speaker 3: all the travel if we're going to meet somewhere. And
- 31:28Speaker 3: in addition to this, she has the attitude that parenthood
- 31:31Speaker 3: is absolute sunshine and roses all the time and never
- 31:34Speaker 3: talks about the irritating stuff that bonds us.
- 31:37Speaker 6: All.
- 31:37Speaker 2: Wouldn't what that's like? What would you do?
- 31:41Speaker 1: I wouldn't say, I wouldn't letting it go is a
- 31:44Speaker 1: bit drastic obviously, like parenting changes people right for the
- 31:48Speaker 1: good and for the worst in some instances. But like,
- 31:51Speaker 1: I think it's more like, Okay, well I don't.
- 31:54Speaker 2: Think that I would do it's not working out.
- 31:56Speaker 1: I'm like, fine, move on, never contact me again. It's
- 32:00Speaker 1: sort of like, I mean, everyone's going to have to
- 32:02Speaker 1: live their own lives. But then it doesn't mean that
- 32:04Speaker 1: you're not friends. It means that, like you've just got
- 32:07Speaker 1: different expectations of parenting and different scenarios, which is so
- 32:11Speaker 1: true because every kid's different. If it's Sunshina rainbows, good
- 32:14Speaker 1: for her, and if that irritates you that she's not well,
- 32:17Speaker 1: then maybe find some people that you're happy to bitch
- 32:20Speaker 1: about your kids with it like I have, and then
- 32:22Speaker 1: still have that friend as still your friend, because I
- 32:24Speaker 1: don't think you should throw away friendship just because at
- 32:27Speaker 1: that time your lives aren't lining up.
- 32:30Speaker 3: Not saying that this is the case with your relationship,
- 32:33Speaker 3: anonymous listener, but look, the reality is, like you said,
- 32:37Speaker 3: people change post parenthood and some relationships won't last.
- 32:41Speaker 1: Yeah, Or it's like you come back and revisit it late.
- 32:45Speaker 1: Like my sister, she had a really good best friend
- 32:49Speaker 1: for years, and I remember there was it wasn't a
- 32:53Speaker 1: falling out of similar their interests change, and then I
- 32:57Speaker 1: was like literally like six or seven years or something,
- 33:00Speaker 1: and then she was at my sister's wedding and my
- 33:03Speaker 1: sister was like, we just felt like we were such
- 33:04Speaker 1: good friends. And we reconnected again and we're at different
- 33:08Speaker 1: stages now, but cycles yeah, we're at different we live
- 33:11Speaker 1: in different states even but now that we've reconnected, there's
- 33:15Speaker 1: so much for us to catch up on and they're
- 33:17Speaker 1: still much friend.
- 33:18Speaker 3: But I do think as well, up until like six
- 33:21Speaker 3: or seven months, if you're it's like, let's say you've
- 33:24Speaker 3: had a nice berth and let's say baby's pretty easy,
- 33:28Speaker 3: they can sleep anywhere. Like we were of the opinion
- 33:31Speaker 3: that like, oh yeah, they'll you know, they'll sleep in
- 33:32Speaker 3: the prem it's easy to catch up. But then I
- 33:34Speaker 3: think from ten months onwards up until three or four
- 33:38Speaker 3: that's it's tricky.
- 33:39Speaker 2: You trap your nap trapped.
- 33:41Speaker 1: You do get nap trapped. I love being nat trapp
- 33:43Speaker 1: because I wouldn'tap too, But like you divide your days
- 33:47Speaker 1: into two parts or three parts, depending on where the
- 33:49Speaker 1: naps are.
- 33:49Speaker 3: And if you weren't on the same page. It's like
- 33:51Speaker 3: when the kids were post one o'clock, we were like, no,
- 33:55Speaker 3: twelve o'clock. We got to be we got to be
- 33:56Speaker 3: at home in a dark room with the selling machine on,
- 34:00Speaker 3: and I want my kid to sleep otherwise are going
- 34:01Speaker 3: to turn fair And.
- 34:02Speaker 2: Other people were just like, oh, I can sleep in
- 34:04Speaker 2: the gutter.
- 34:05Speaker 1: We were the same. It's like I wanted those naps
- 34:09Speaker 1: to be good because that would knock on effect would
- 34:11Speaker 1: be that it'd be better later on. Yeah, and she
- 34:14Speaker 1: might have a kid that's a great sleeper, great, and
- 34:16Speaker 1: that's amazing and it's good for her. You're you're maybe
- 34:19Speaker 1: a little bit more into a fussy sleeper or eat
- 34:21Speaker 1: or whatever it might be. But yeah, I wouldn't say
- 34:24Speaker 1: let go. I would just say they're still your friend.
- 34:26Speaker 1: It might you might just be on different paths at
- 34:28Speaker 1: the moment, but the paths come back.
- 34:29Speaker 3: I remember being a kid growing up and they were
- 34:32Speaker 3: like some of my mom's really good friends. I won't
- 34:34Speaker 3: send any names, but they had kids who were similar
- 34:37Speaker 3: age to me.
- 34:37Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, I hate that kid.
- 34:39Speaker 2: I play with him. He's fucking weird, Mom, He's weird, weird,
- 34:42Speaker 2: the weirdo. I don't want to go, and it's so
- 34:45Speaker 2: much harder I do it now, was like, come on,
- 34:48Speaker 2: like it's weird.
- 34:50Speaker 1: He tried to talk to me. I hated it.
- 34:53Speaker 3: But when the kids don't get along, it does make
- 34:55Speaker 3: it so much harder. But it just means it might
- 34:57Speaker 3: be best for you guys to hang out without the kid. Yeah,
- 35:00Speaker 3: you guys can still see each other. If you can
- 35:02Speaker 3: have time away from your child and just see them,
- 35:05Speaker 3: that might be the best way for you guys to
- 35:07Speaker 3: still socialize.
- 35:09Speaker 6: I think as well, though two and a half hours away,
- 35:11Speaker 6: you might not need to throw away the relationship. It
- 35:13Speaker 6: might just be a stepping away from it for a while.
- 35:16Speaker 2: Very good as an easy fade out.
- 35:19Speaker 3: It's always awkward when they live down the road and
- 35:20Speaker 3: you keep bumping into them, like where are you off
- 35:23Speaker 3: to the park?
- 35:24Speaker 2: Me too?
- 35:24Speaker 1: Fuck, You're like, oh shit, all right. This one's from
- 35:29Speaker 1: Sarah Jane. I have a dota dilemma which my husband
- 35:32Speaker 1: and I can't seem to agree on. I should note
- 35:35Speaker 1: we were brought up very differently. He could do basically
- 35:38Speaker 1: what he wanted and I was very overprotected. And he
- 35:42Speaker 1: is the eldest of three boys, and I'm the youngest
- 35:45Speaker 1: and only girl. Okay with you? That is opposite. At
- 35:48Speaker 1: what age did you let your kids start to do
- 35:50Speaker 1: things on their own, like walk home from school, go
- 35:53Speaker 1: for bike rides with their friends, etc. My son is
- 35:56Speaker 1: nine in year four and we have just relocated a
- 36:00Speaker 1: five minute walk from the new school. A lot of
- 36:02Speaker 1: kids walk home, and he'd like to start to do
- 36:04Speaker 1: that on his own. The local shops are also a
- 36:07Speaker 1: one minute walk, and my husband thinks we should be
- 36:09Speaker 1: starting to let him do that on his own. Two
- 36:12Speaker 1: I know it's just a matter of time before he
- 36:14Speaker 1: wanted to go for a bike rides with his new friends.
- 36:17Speaker 1: I'm really struggling with the thought of not being there
- 36:20Speaker 1: to protect him if something was to happen. The other
- 36:23Speaker 1: issue is my middle child is in kindergarten and if
- 36:25Speaker 1: he's walking home, she's going to want to do it
- 36:28Speaker 1: with him fair enough, which I'm absolutely not okay with.
- 36:31Speaker 1: So may as well just walk all together. Not asking
- 36:35Speaker 1: for you to make the decision for me. Oh just
- 36:38Speaker 1: wanted to know what others have done, as it makes
- 36:40Speaker 1: me very anxious. I used to walk to school every
- 36:44Speaker 1: morning from the age of seven.
- 36:47Speaker 2: I always have to hike up a mountain.
- 36:49Speaker 1: Yeah, ask girl parents. What did they do? Well, it
- 36:52Speaker 1: was a rail road. There was a rail road. I
- 36:54Speaker 1: remember that week, just through the mountain. Once we got
- 36:57Speaker 1: to the railroad, they said, I'll follow it until you
- 37:00Speaker 1: hit the sun.
- 37:00Speaker 3: We'd swimmer kilometer yeah yeah, shark infested water, we'd get
- 37:06Speaker 3: that by winter. Yeah yeah, we'd have to build an
- 37:08Speaker 3: igloo camp over night. We would then start school.
- 37:11Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 37:12Speaker 2: How old were you when you walked to school? Yeah?
- 37:13Speaker 2: Seven seven on the Gold Coast.
- 37:15Speaker 1: No, no, no, I went to primary school in Sydney.
- 37:17Speaker 2: Okay. We were with your older sister though. Yeah, so
- 37:20Speaker 2: my sister was two years old and death is very responsible.
- 37:25Speaker 1: She's brainwashed everyone, I reckon anyway, that's yeah anyway, Ah, No,
- 37:32Speaker 1: she was. She was. She was a very protecting, biggest
- 37:34Speaker 1: big sister for me, which I am very appreciated of
- 37:37Speaker 1: and we have a great relationship now. But it's like,
- 37:40Speaker 1: can you just leave that first part in no, Like
- 37:43Speaker 1: I think people often say to me, like I go
- 37:45Speaker 1: to gigs with my sister, I do just one on one.
- 37:47Speaker 1: So but I remember we used to walk to school together. Yeah,
- 37:52Speaker 1: really early doors because it was so normal.
- 37:54Speaker 3: Did you ever have any run ins with would you
- 37:57Speaker 3: say any like stranger danger back in the day, any
- 37:59Speaker 3: any thing where you were like, I think we should
- 38:01Speaker 3: go this way and get that candy from the man
- 38:03Speaker 3: in the van and she's like, no, Ash.
- 38:05Speaker 1: He's got puppies. No, nothing like that. I think we
- 38:09Speaker 1: Where we went to school, there was a lot of
- 38:11Speaker 1: like bush tracks to get to the entrance. Like there
- 38:14Speaker 1: wasn't school's a much more fenced off now, Okay, I
- 38:17Speaker 1: remember there was all these different entrances to the school
- 38:19Speaker 1: from bush tracks. It was quite a bushy area, and
- 38:21Speaker 1: everyone would have their own way of getting into the school.
- 38:24Speaker 1: I remember a group of us.
- 38:25Speaker 2: Would all imagine this like ants coming into it.
- 38:28Speaker 1: That's what it was like, because I mean we would
- 38:29Speaker 1: mind we'd all walk to school together, me, my neighbors
- 38:32Speaker 1: and all this sort of stuff, like different ages all
- 38:34Speaker 1: down the same bush track and then onwards. The only
- 38:36Speaker 1: thing we did come across was there was a storm
- 38:38Speaker 1: water drain through this bush track, like you could see
- 38:42Speaker 1: the exit or the entry whatever one end of it,
- 38:44Speaker 1: and kids thought it'd be funny to crawl up the
- 38:46Speaker 1: fucking thing. And then one of the kids got stuck
- 38:48Speaker 1: pretty much, so we had to like look somehow. Look,
- 38:51Speaker 1: we didn't get stuck. He got halfway, got scared and
- 38:53Speaker 1: frozen stiff. So we'd have to be like, get parents
- 38:56Speaker 1: to come and help us out. And then it would
- 38:57Speaker 1: be like, don't.
- 38:58Speaker 2: Go down there. Those one kid, it ruins it for everyone.
- 38:59Speaker 1: Yeah, but my parents always lived and went to school
- 39:02Speaker 1: on hills, okay, and my mum was like, no one,
- 39:07Speaker 1: no one of danger could be bothered walking up that
- 39:08Speaker 1: fucking hill.
- 39:09Speaker 2: You guys all have great calves, right, thank you. It's
- 39:13Speaker 2: myself because of the hills.
- 39:14Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're like it just felt safe because.
- 39:17Speaker 2: Because of the hill.
- 39:18Speaker 1: Because of the hill.
- 39:19Speaker 2: Criminals are lazy.
- 39:21Speaker 1: And then when I moved to high school, we would
- 39:23Speaker 1: walk all the way to the bus stop, which was
- 39:25Speaker 1: like down the hill, which was dangerous. You know, it
- 39:27Speaker 1: was like down on the flat with the flat people.
- 39:29Speaker 1: But yeah, but I think now it's you're going to
- 39:35Speaker 1: sound like an old person say it thanks for the Internet.
- 39:38Speaker 1: It's it's it's open too many eyes because it's like
- 39:42Speaker 1: everyone's so petrified, which I think there is a there
- 39:45Speaker 1: is a certain degree.
- 39:46Speaker 3: Of healthy to have a bit of anxiety regarding it,
- 39:49Speaker 3: but then knowing any minor incident that is then put
- 39:53Speaker 3: front and center on the news, and it's on social media,
- 39:55Speaker 3: and you know.
- 39:56Speaker 2: Every every single thing that could go wrong, it does.
- 39:58Speaker 3: Go wrong, You're like, holy fuck, I'm going to wrap
- 40:00Speaker 3: my child in bubble wrap for as long.
- 40:02Speaker 2: As I can.
- 40:03Speaker 1: And the problem but the problem with that, I like,
- 40:04Speaker 1: I'm thankful that I was given autonomy around that sort
- 40:07Speaker 1: of stuff really early on. So in terms of April,
- 40:10Speaker 1: not so much. So here's a good example. When I
- 40:13Speaker 1: started seeing April, her mom still used to make her sandwiches,
- 40:16Speaker 1: but it was like when we traveled, she would highly
- 40:20Speaker 1: rely on me in terms of navigate everything. And she'll
- 40:24Speaker 1: tell you that because she would get dropped off to
- 40:27Speaker 1: school picked up, she didn't have the street smarts. I
- 40:30Speaker 1: remember my mum would always say I wanted us to
- 40:33Speaker 1: do that stuff alone so that when we did get older,
- 40:35Speaker 1: we were traveled enough we would know what to do
- 40:37Speaker 1: in a situation. And it worked out because both my
- 40:41Speaker 1: sister and I are very individual and very autonomous and
- 40:44Speaker 1: have been since that, and we weren't helicopter parent.
- 40:47Speaker 3: You, your streets smarts would be the highest of anyone
- 40:50Speaker 3: that I know.
- 40:51Speaker 2: Really, Oh yeah, shut up, yeah, yeh, yeah, you're welcome.
- 40:54Speaker 3: Yeah, But my issue is with my kids, Like, as
- 40:56Speaker 3: an example, the one rule that we have that I'm
- 40:59Speaker 3: trying to implementing their head is you're going across the road,
- 41:02Speaker 3: you gotta look left, right, and then left again then
- 41:04Speaker 3: you cross, and they're like got it. And then I'm like, okay,
- 41:08Speaker 3: I'm just going to be over here. You can cross
- 41:09Speaker 3: when you want.
- 41:10Speaker 2: And they're just like yep, and I'm like wow, and
- 41:13Speaker 2: you've got to look first, and like got it.
- 41:15Speaker 1: Do they know the reality of what would happen if
- 41:17Speaker 1: they got hit by a car.
- 41:18Speaker 2: I was literally explaining to them. I was like, if
- 41:19Speaker 2: you get hit by a car, you will end up
- 41:22Speaker 2: in hospital with broken bones, mate, And they're like, is
- 41:27Speaker 2: that lad? Would it hurt their TVs in hospital? Yeah?
- 41:32Speaker 2: But it's not the point screens.
- 41:35Speaker 1: I said to April April Oscar. I was like, you
- 41:37Speaker 1: get hit by a car, splat, It's like what. I'm like,
- 41:40Speaker 1: You'll be all over the road, mate, There'll be nothing
- 41:42Speaker 1: left to you.
- 41:43Speaker 3: But I my kids still won't look left and right
- 41:45Speaker 3: and crossing the road if they're on a scooter in
- 41:47Speaker 3: front of me and I'm like stop, stop at the
- 41:52Speaker 3: last second, and.
- 41:53Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, oh, what for. I'm like, you didn't
- 41:56Speaker 2: you didn't look and they're like, what for for the
- 41:58Speaker 2: fucking cars look right now? And they're like, well, you
- 42:01Speaker 2: didn't tell me what age? You guys fucking understand to
- 42:04Speaker 2: look left and right.
- 42:05Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, I know we implemented whenever they look left
- 42:09Speaker 1: or right, they go right. So if they look right,
- 42:11Speaker 1: they go they have to say no cars left, no cars,
- 42:15Speaker 1: And now Macy's just like no cars.
- 42:17Speaker 3: If I'm on the bike, I sometimes a're on the
- 42:19Speaker 3: back and I'm like, Okay, who's going to be my
- 42:21Speaker 3: eyes for me?
- 42:22Speaker 2: Can you check? Is it clear? And they're like go ahead?
- 42:24Speaker 2: Fucking buses like and I'm like, you didn't look at
- 42:29Speaker 2: you right before? What's what's the problem?
- 42:32Speaker 1: You guys suck that?
- 42:33Speaker 8: Yeh.
- 42:33Speaker 1: I think like the kids being out and about on
- 42:36Speaker 1: their own, it's that. I think that scares me more
- 42:39Speaker 1: than anything else. I think like letting go he didn't
- 42:43Speaker 1: get hit by car. But I think like you've got
- 42:45Speaker 1: to give you got to do it though, You've got
- 42:46Speaker 1: to give your kids some eyes, some autonomus.
- 42:49Speaker 2: I think I think at the age of like three,
- 42:52Speaker 2: so it's of like eight or nine, I.
- 42:54Speaker 1: Should get a job.
- 42:55Speaker 2: They should be out there sweeping chimneys.
- 42:58Speaker 3: I think if it's a five minute war from home,
- 43:01Speaker 3: I think it's okay.
- 43:02Speaker 1: Yeah with it. I'm still nervous with a buddy.
- 43:04Speaker 3: Like with a buddy, like if you want to pick
- 43:06Speaker 3: someone kidder's nearby, you guys can all come together, and
- 43:09Speaker 3: I think it's fine. Like I know my sister will
- 43:11Speaker 3: go pick up the youngest is in kindie. George, who
- 43:14Speaker 3: is the eldest will walk home by himself with the mate,
- 43:16Speaker 3: or like they'll ride bikes by themselves, smoke and and
- 43:19Speaker 3: then yeah he.
- 43:21Speaker 2: Probably is, isn't he?
- 43:22Speaker 1: Yeah I was?
- 43:24Speaker 3: And then shaggy pants will get taken home by mum m.
- 43:27Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 43:27Speaker 1: It definitely scares me, but I think like it also depends,
- 43:30Speaker 1: like how big the distance is, Like we were pretty
- 43:33Speaker 1: close to school and then there was a group of it.
- 43:36Speaker 1: A group is always good because it's like they can't
- 43:38Speaker 1: take all of it.
- 43:40Speaker 2: From the age of nine, I'm allowing a kilometer.
- 43:44Speaker 3: Okay, yeah right, and then every age above that, every
- 43:47Speaker 3: year the radius increases is by another kilometer.
- 43:49Speaker 1: Yeah, my name's eighty nine. She can only drive like
- 43:51Speaker 1: five ks. So it comes full circle.
- 43:55Speaker 6: One little hack I saw from a few mums about
- 43:58Speaker 6: if you are sort of testing the waters with your
- 44:00Speaker 6: kids coming home and stuff, get an air tag and
- 44:02Speaker 6: chuck it in your kids shoe. They don't know it's there,
- 44:05Speaker 6: and you can keep track of where they're going, what
- 44:06Speaker 6: path they're taking, that sort of thing.
- 44:08Speaker 7: When they get a bit older.
- 44:09Speaker 6: Life three sixty app is like amazing for keeping track
- 44:12Speaker 6: of where they're going.
- 44:13Speaker 2: Is that through their phone? You track their phone.
- 44:15Speaker 6: They need to have the app as well, whether it's
- 44:17Speaker 6: on a watch or on a phone yet so generally
- 44:20Speaker 6: high school students, but my nephew loves mountain bike riding
- 44:25Speaker 6: and so it was a really great way to make
- 44:27Speaker 6: sure that he was still constantly moving and moving around safely.
- 44:31Speaker 7: Yeah, if he stopped.
- 44:35Speaker 2: Where do you put the air tag on the shoe?
- 44:37Speaker 6: Apparently you can cut like a little hole, put it
- 44:41Speaker 6: in like under the sole, cut a hole out.
- 44:44Speaker 2: That's Real's get I think, Yeah, I like.
- 44:46Speaker 6: It, cut it out, put it in, and then super
- 44:49Speaker 6: glue it back in. So basically, if they lose their shoe,
- 44:52Speaker 6: it's the only way to come out.
- 44:54Speaker 1: My kids always lose their shoes. Am I wear are
- 44:57Speaker 1: your shoes? How are we going to track these people.
- 45:00Speaker 1: Remember Whipper did that for the city to serf He
- 45:04Speaker 1: tagged his kids without telling them because obviously it's a
- 45:06Speaker 1: massive crowd and they were all doing it together as
- 45:08Speaker 1: a family. But like, can I just.
- 45:11Speaker 3: Say I'm not opposed to putting in micro chips and
- 45:14Speaker 3: my kids?
- 45:14Speaker 7: Is that a thing?
- 45:15Speaker 1: Can you do that?
- 45:17Speaker 2: I'll find out what's wrong with that.
- 45:19Speaker 1: I don't want to be that close to.
- 45:20Speaker 3: Them, just for like these early years and then when
- 45:23Speaker 3: they're an adult and they're like, what's this weird lump
- 45:26Speaker 3: on my wrist?
- 45:27Speaker 2: Like, ask your.
- 45:28Speaker 1: Mother who is It's like a microchip like a dog.
- 45:32Speaker 7: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if we're not far off
- 45:34Speaker 7: from that.
- 45:34Speaker 1: We're not far off from that. I don't think.
- 45:38Speaker 2: Ash.
- 45:38Speaker 3: This one is for you. If I may ask you
- 45:41Speaker 3: a question you well, it's not you, but I'm asking
- 45:44Speaker 3: on behalf of anonymous.
- 45:46Speaker 1: That's a strange name. Research it's French. Oh well, that's
- 45:53Speaker 1: that's a bit of Japanese as well.
- 45:56Speaker 2: Your French in Japanese are always intertwined.
- 45:58Speaker 1: I've always said that.
- 45:59Speaker 2: Okay.
- 45:59Speaker 3: She says, my partner has an alcohol dependency, and whenever
- 46:03Speaker 3: I bring it up, he gets upset because we've had
- 46:05Speaker 3: the conversation so many times, but he hasn't been able
- 46:08Speaker 3: to stop drinking, despite claiming that he wants to. He
- 46:12Speaker 3: knows it's bad and doesn't seem to be able to stop,
- 46:14Speaker 3: even for the sake of our one year old. Hearing
- 46:16Speaker 3: Ash's story gives me some hope, but I don't know
- 46:19Speaker 3: how to be more supportive. But I don't know how
- 46:21Speaker 3: to be a more supportive partner when I can't bring
- 46:23Speaker 3: this up without him getting upset. We will be bringing
- 46:27Speaker 3: April on the podcast to talk about this. But when
- 46:30Speaker 3: you think about your situation and your decision to stop drinking,
- 46:33Speaker 3: do you think there's anything that April could have done
- 46:36Speaker 3: or said or behaved in a way that would have
- 46:38Speaker 3: encouraged you to give up sooner?
- 46:40Speaker 1: Probably not. I actually do get this message a little
- 46:43Speaker 1: bit here and there from people, and it's fairly common
- 46:46Speaker 1: where it's like my husband or my wife, you know,
- 46:50Speaker 1: and they are torn on what to do because you
- 46:53Speaker 1: love this person so much at the same time, you
- 46:56Speaker 1: don't want to rock the boat to a point that
- 46:59Speaker 1: makes them get their neck up or because ultimately, and
- 47:02Speaker 1: I always say this, the end decision is down to him, right.
- 47:08Speaker 1: I think April was really good at not confronting me
- 47:12Speaker 1: about it. It was sort of like him where I
- 47:14Speaker 1: knew the damage it was doing. I knew that I
- 47:18Speaker 1: wanted to one day be alcohol free. And I always
- 47:21Speaker 1: say that Pi seads daydream about being sober or every
- 47:24Speaker 1: piece said you asked them, I'm like, do you ever
- 47:25Speaker 1: think about being sober? And they're probably yeah, all the time.
- 47:27Speaker 1: It's just one of those things. But like in her instance,
- 47:30Speaker 1: I think like you've already got a couple of things
- 47:33Speaker 1: going for you. He knows that it's bad for him.
- 47:36Speaker 1: I think for her it's to be patient and not
- 47:39Speaker 1: to push it.
- 47:40Speaker 3: Is there any situation where you can think of where
- 47:45Speaker 3: you know, we talk about like we coached him, right,
- 47:47Speaker 3: and he's all about rewarding the good behavior, and jen
- 47:51Speaker 3: Ewi says that a lot as well. Was it any
- 47:53Speaker 3: times where you were behaving in a certain way, and like,
- 47:55Speaker 3: tell me if this is not the case, but if you,
- 47:57Speaker 3: like on a Saturday night, I'm assuming that would be
- 47:59Speaker 3: a night you would most commonly drink, or Friday night
- 48:02Speaker 3: every night. Yeah, so one if there was a night
- 48:06Speaker 3: where you didn't drink, If April was to say like, hey, like,
- 48:10Speaker 3: really good job.
- 48:11Speaker 2: You know, like I'm really proud of it if you're
- 48:12Speaker 2: not drinking? Did that help it all?
- 48:15Speaker 1: What did help? Was noticed? I noticed when I had
- 48:19Speaker 1: consciously decided not to drink on certain days. I noticed
- 48:24Speaker 1: that we would do think more like, we would do
- 48:27Speaker 1: more together. We were much more a happy couple. It's
- 48:32Speaker 1: really tricky because I think anyone, no one wants to
- 48:34Speaker 1: be told they've got a problem right straight away, whether
- 48:37Speaker 1: you've got an addiction or not. If you're told that
- 48:39Speaker 1: you're doing something that someone else doesn't agree with, all
- 48:42Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're going to get your neck up,
- 48:44Speaker 1: unless like you're of the opinion that okay, I want
- 48:47Speaker 1: to I just need some support. I think what's probably
- 48:50Speaker 1: really healthy and would be if she doesn't make it
- 48:53Speaker 1: about him. She makes it about them. So like I
- 48:57Speaker 1: remember April saying to me once and I sort of
- 49:00Speaker 1: took the hint. She was like, hey, do you know
- 49:02Speaker 1: what my purpose? She sort of said what her perfect
- 49:04Speaker 1: night was, and it was like, do you know what
- 49:05Speaker 1: perfect night is? That we get to eat together, we
- 49:07Speaker 1: get to lay in bed and watch TV together. And
- 49:11Speaker 1: then it was sort of like and who knows you know,
- 49:13Speaker 1: and I kind of took that and I was like, okay,
- 49:16Speaker 1: well it was not It wasn't just about me. It
- 49:18Speaker 1: was about what her perfect night is and what we
- 49:20Speaker 1: could do together. So I don't know, if it's like
- 49:23Speaker 1: you might have your own health goals, this person who's
- 49:26Speaker 1: worried about a husband, why not come up with a
- 49:28Speaker 1: health goal together? And it might actually just askew some
- 49:31Speaker 1: of the thought around thinking about drinking all the time.
- 49:33Speaker 1: Because I guarantee you if it's a dependency, he thinks
- 49:35Speaker 1: about it all the time. But why don't you try
- 49:37Speaker 1: and shift that to thinking about us and not about that.
- 49:40Speaker 3: And then do you think it's better instead of trying
- 49:42Speaker 3: to attack it from like we've got to stop drinking
- 49:45Speaker 3: like every night. It's a case of trying to break
- 49:48Speaker 3: it down, so it wakes it down. So one night,
- 49:50Speaker 3: you guys, you know, if it's it's a Thursday night,
- 49:53Speaker 3: is like when the drinking starts. As an example, just
- 49:56Speaker 3: not drinking every night. Do you try and attack it
- 49:58Speaker 3: from like that one night? We just focused on that
- 50:00Speaker 3: one night itself and then grow from there if you can.
- 50:03Speaker 1: Yeah, because you could easily if like I said, if
- 50:05Speaker 1: he already knows that he wants to stop. We'll say, hey,
- 50:08Speaker 1: don't we on well, why don't we on Wednesday night?
- 50:11Speaker 1: Why don't we do something together every Wednesday night to
- 50:13Speaker 1: give you that break in the middle of the week,
- 50:15Speaker 1: so you can see how you feel the back end
- 50:16Speaker 1: of the week, Because.
- 50:17Speaker 3: Do you find it hard if you're at home in
- 50:20Speaker 3: that environment where you would have a drink in hand?
- 50:23Speaker 3: Do you find it hard to be in that same
- 50:25Speaker 3: environment without the bottle? Is it easier to be out
- 50:28Speaker 3: of the house in the evenings?
- 50:30Speaker 1: I don't want to leave the house anymore.
- 50:32Speaker 2: It's when you first stopped drinking.
- 50:35Speaker 1: When I first stopped drinking, I would It's about distraction, right,
- 50:39Speaker 1: I think all the things that you would do that
- 50:42Speaker 1: involve alcohol, which the thing is, it bleeds into every
- 50:44Speaker 1: part of your life. Okay, so it's like all of
- 50:47Speaker 1: a sudden, you become a parent, right, and then alcohol
- 50:50Speaker 1: bleeds into that world. Instead of you being like I
- 50:52Speaker 1: want to separate alcohol use around my family, but I
- 50:56Speaker 1: think there's obviously things that they do together they both
- 50:59Speaker 1: enjoy and it's like, okay, well, maybe instead of having
- 51:02Speaker 1: our normal shake your routine up a bit in the
- 51:04Speaker 1: middle of the week and go Okay, well I've noticed
- 51:06Speaker 1: that you do you want to have a night off
- 51:08Speaker 1: having a drink if you feel like you have to
- 51:09Speaker 1: do it, what can we do together or I remember,
- 51:12Speaker 1: I do remember recall when I've said to Abel, I
- 51:15Speaker 1: want to have a good cracket at this time, she
- 51:17Speaker 1: would say, she would say, hey, go and see your mate,
- 51:20Speaker 1: or go and do something that will make you feel
- 51:22Speaker 1: like you don't need to do it. It's really really hard.
- 51:25Speaker 2: Not about one he likes a drink.
- 51:26Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well that's it, Like you're going to go
- 51:28Speaker 1: through a time of some isolation, but it's worth it
- 51:32Speaker 1: in the end. And I think I think as soon
- 51:34Speaker 1: as she starts talking about it that it's his problem.
- 51:37Speaker 1: Is when you're gonna have we're gonna have bigger problem.
- 51:39Speaker 1: It's more like, make it seem like his idea. If
- 51:43Speaker 1: that helps. Anyone says yeah, Everyone always says I want
- 51:47Speaker 1: to talk to me about him, Like yeah, but talk
- 51:48Speaker 1: to me about it and see how that goes, and
- 51:50Speaker 1: then maybe really think about it. But I would say,
- 51:53Speaker 1: make it about you guys as a whole, as a unit,
- 51:55Speaker 1: and maybe do something with the whole family at those
- 51:58Speaker 1: trigger points throughout the day where it's like four o'clock
- 52:00Speaker 1: in the afternoon. You trigger point, we go, right, everyone up,
- 52:03Speaker 1: let's go, you know what I mean. And it's like,
- 52:04Speaker 1: can I take a drink? No? No, no, come on,
- 52:07Speaker 1: let's go. You're gonna drink me. We get back, shake
- 52:09Speaker 1: that up a little bit, yeah, because then he'll be like, oh, okay,
- 52:12Speaker 1: because I remember, like the most uncomfortable times were when
- 52:16Speaker 1: you're not doing the regular thing, which is like drinking.
- 52:18Speaker 1: But then it would be like then I would start
- 52:20Speaker 1: to think about it a little bit more and maybe
- 52:23Speaker 1: push myself to maybe not drink tomorrow and night. That
- 52:25Speaker 1: was great, you know, but like everyone's gonna be different,
- 52:28Speaker 1: but it's ultimately up to him.
- 52:30Speaker 3: Last question, when you were stopping drinking, did you remove
- 52:34Speaker 3: alcohol from the fridge? Nah, because that I imagine that
- 52:38Speaker 3: must be hard, is if you're at home and the
- 52:41Speaker 3: fridge has got cold beers in it.
- 52:43Speaker 1: Yeah, I got two cases in the laundry, I've got
- 52:46Speaker 1: I've got bottles of alcohol in the laundry I had,
- 52:48Speaker 1: I've got a bar fridge. Thankfully, Mike drank all that
- 52:52Speaker 1: because I contemplated at the time. I was like, that's
- 52:55Speaker 1: not a trigger for me, seeing it is not a trigger.
- 52:58Speaker 2: Right, but at the same time, biggest trigger.
- 53:01Speaker 1: I think the kids were a big one.
- 53:03Speaker 2: Having a stressful day.
- 53:04Speaker 1: I just felt like it just became so part of
- 53:07Speaker 1: my life that it was like the only way I
- 53:09Speaker 1: would feel comfortable is if I had it. But like
- 53:11Speaker 1: when I did quit and it was in the fridge,
- 53:14Speaker 1: it made it a little bit like it's in there,
- 53:16Speaker 1: I'm not going here. It was I kind of felt
- 53:18Speaker 1: a little bit proud about that.
- 53:19Speaker 2: Yeah, that in front.
- 53:21Speaker 1: Yeah, but again it was it was my decision, and
- 53:24Speaker 1: April never ever gave me an ultimatum. She never ever got.
- 53:27Speaker 1: It would have been way worse, I thought I would have.
- 53:30Speaker 1: Think I was already at a point it was like
- 53:31Speaker 1: life is so fucking exhausting just being me. Imagine having
- 53:34Speaker 1: someone else coming over the top of you to tell
- 53:36Speaker 1: you doing the wrong thing as well. Yeah, it's so
- 53:38Speaker 1: much pressure. And you know, like I said, she's got
- 53:42Speaker 1: a couple of things already going for that.
- 53:43Speaker 2: He knows.
- 53:45Speaker 1: I would say, be patient and just try and do
- 53:47Speaker 1: some things for you both that can disrupt the routine
- 53:51Speaker 1: a little bit. And then yeah, a little bit of
- 53:53Speaker 1: praise here and there is definitely really helped me. But
- 53:56Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, he's got to make that decision on
- 53:58Speaker 1: his own. I love that to her luck yeah, and
- 54:01Speaker 1: be patient with him because it's so much harder than
- 54:04Speaker 1: people think it is. Like I always joke about how
- 54:07Speaker 1: people say, just have one. Oh fuck, you've solved all
- 54:09Speaker 1: of my problems.
- 54:10Speaker 2: Oh you thought about that.
- 54:12Speaker 1: I never thought about just having one. I've only ever
- 54:14Speaker 1: had fifteen at a time. And it's like, it's so
- 54:18Speaker 1: much harder than people think it is, because it becomes
- 54:20Speaker 1: it consumes you. Like I still, Like I said to
- 54:23Speaker 1: Laura and Britt on Life on Car, I said, there's
- 54:25Speaker 1: not a day or a moment where I don't think
- 54:28Speaker 1: about it. Not a moment where I don't think about it.
- 54:31Speaker 1: But I know that I'm better off without it, and
- 54:34Speaker 1: I know that everyone else around me is better off
- 54:36Speaker 1: without it.
- 54:37Speaker 2: So great advice, Thank you very much, Thank you Wicklesworth.
- 54:41Speaker 1: Wicklesworth.
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- 54:52Speaker 2: Very important. We have had a great influx of new listeners.
- 54:56Speaker 2: We might just.
- 54:57Speaker 3: Say, if you haven't listened to an episode we did
- 54:59Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago with Jackie from the Nourish
- 55:01Speaker 3: Cycle educating us about periods. That is been going gangbusters.
- 55:06Speaker 1: Two men talking about periods.
- 55:08Speaker 2: Who would have thought?
- 55:09Speaker 1: Who would have actually learned so much? I remember I
- 55:11Speaker 1: think I did ask that question where it was like
- 55:14Speaker 1: is it attractive if I follow along my wife's cycles?
- 55:18Speaker 1: Are you yeah?
- 55:18Speaker 2: Are you yeah?
- 55:19Speaker 1: Well so I already kind of was because it was
- 55:21Speaker 1: in the calendar, but like we doesnt want me to.
- 55:24Speaker 2: I'm always like, it is it happening? Where are we at?
- 55:26Speaker 2: We're wearing the cycle? And she's like, shut up.
- 55:28Speaker 1: It might be worried you're going to use it in
- 55:29Speaker 1: instam someone said.
- 55:33Speaker 3: Someone said on comments, if men were smart, they would
- 55:36Speaker 3: find out when their partners are ovulating, because that's when
- 55:39Speaker 3: the best chance of having sex.
- 55:41Speaker 1: Men are so dark alert. Yeah, I getting alert, Like, sorry, God,
- 55:45Speaker 1: it's gotta go right.
- 55:47Speaker 2: For so long we've been just flying blind.
- 55:50Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's so like if you understand the menstrual
- 55:53Speaker 1: cycle as a man, you have a leg up on
- 55:55Speaker 1: everyone else.
- 55:57Speaker 2: Right, So just a little little hint, this is that episode.
- 55:59Speaker 1: Imagine dating someone new, a woman you and then you're
- 56:03Speaker 1: getting familiar with each other in terms of like each
- 56:05Speaker 1: other's personalities, and then you have information and you understand
- 56:09Speaker 1: the female body.
- 56:11Speaker 3: The biggest green flag you'll ever get in your ownire understanding.
- 56:14Speaker 1: Yeah.
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