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Darwin’s Lord Mayor Kon Vatskalis says education and training is key in rehabilitating young offenders · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: And that is the Lord Mayor conbat Scarlet's good morning Corn,
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  Speaker 1: Good morning Kaid.
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  Speaker 2: And yes, people are frustrated without social behavior. Yes, people
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  Speaker 2: are frustrated with kids committing crime. And O there's a
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  Speaker 2: debate about raising the age of responsibility. But I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to say something that some people might not like it
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  Speaker 2: at all, But that's democracy. When a teve year old
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  Speaker 2: kid goes to a shop with a knife to rob
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  Speaker 2: something but disguises himself by pulling thing in front of
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  Speaker 2: his face, he tells me that this kid, the twelve
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  Speaker 2: year old, knows he's doing something wrong. So in this era,
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  Speaker 2: when you've got so much information going around, even an
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  Speaker 2: eight and nine year old knows what's right what's wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I have to agree the way we address the issue
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  Speaker 2: after we arrest people is not the right one. Locking
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  Speaker 2: kids away to a place that's got air condition, three
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  Speaker 2: meals and television and without giving them nothing to actively
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  Speaker 2: do so the border of their brains is the wrong approach.
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  Speaker 2: Don't sendence kids to detention center. Sendence skis to the
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  Speaker 2: techer said, but in a class some of these kids
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  Speaker 2: can read and write and they're ten eleven years old.
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  Speaker 2: Or take them out to a camp where they can
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  Speaker 2: learn some skills, or take them to a tave where
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  Speaker 2: they can actually learn to do something with their hands.
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  Speaker 2: Some of them are very talented mechanics. Don't just lock
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  Speaker 2: them in and throw the key away. Give them something
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  Speaker 2: to do so whether they come out they might have
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  Speaker 2: something that will save their lives.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I don't think you get much disagreement from
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  Speaker 1: people there. I think that a lot of people, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we understand that kids shouldn't be locked away, and well no,
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  Speaker 1: I think the way that I would more say it
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  Speaker 1: is that when they are going to a youth detention center,
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  Speaker 1: you want to see them coming out rehabilitated. You want
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that they're engaged in programs when they're
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  Speaker 1: able to kick.
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  Speaker 2: Up better and make kids the parents, ether positively or negatively.
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  Speaker 2: I was yesterday, I was ready the Greek newspaper. A youth,
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  Speaker 2: A gang of young kids. One of them twelve, robbed
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  Speaker 2: a school student from its mobile phone and everything else.
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  Speaker 2: The police arrested them, and the police also arrested the
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  Speaker 2: parents for failing to super of ice miners. Sometimes, if
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  Speaker 2: you want to do things to change things, you might
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  Speaker 2: not just arrest the personal committee offense, but the pressure
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  Speaker 2: will failed supervise the little person dot committee offense.
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  Speaker 1: Con let's move along and talk about one of the
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  Speaker 1: issues that you and I spoke about last week and
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  Speaker 1: it garnered a lot of well a lot of interest,
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  Speaker 1: whether it was support or people thinking no, it won't
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  Speaker 1: make a difference. It was indeed the offer that you
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  Speaker 1: that you asked the Northern Territory Police if they'd like
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  Speaker 1: to take up, and that was the free space in
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  Speaker 1: the CBD to combat anti social behavior. They knocked it back.
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  Speaker 1: What was your reaction to that?
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  Speaker 2: The police knocked back and they said that we don't
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  Speaker 2: need more bits. We've got another police station just in
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  Speaker 2: Naki Street. Well, the reasonally they said that because they
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  Speaker 2: hadn't read the letter we said it because we hadn't
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  Speaker 2: said the letter yet. In the letter we make it
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  Speaker 2: clear we don't offer them police station. We will offer
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  Speaker 2: them at base for patrols to come and go in
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  Speaker 2: the CBD.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say, recom you haven't taken your
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  Speaker 1: offer seriously because they didn't give time or consideration to
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  Speaker 1: the full offer.
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  Speaker 2: Even send the letter when they knocked it back. So
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  Speaker 2: in the letter will make clear what we're offering them
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  Speaker 2: not a police station, but a base for people to
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  Speaker 2: patrol the streets.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, is it fair enough that they're more wanting
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  Speaker 1: to be quite mobile and active rather than sort of
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  Speaker 1: being in an office space or in a shop space.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's what we want them to be out there.
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  Speaker 2: But whether they have a fridge, they can get the water,
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  Speaker 2: they can live their food, they can have something that
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  Speaker 2: actually can go back, like a base, not a police station.
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  Speaker 1: And so what's next then in this space.
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  Speaker 2: The offer is open. I spoke to my colleague, the
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  Speaker 2: Lord Mayor of Perth, who advised me that the police
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  Speaker 2: they put seventy five extra police officers on foot patrol
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  Speaker 2: and perthsibit is being absolutely peaceful. Communicated with Kurns. Kurns
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  Speaker 2: made an offer of a police bit and two cars.
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  Speaker 2: Now we're not offering that we actually want people on
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  Speaker 2: the streets who don't want them a police station. Because
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  Speaker 2: currently you've got police station and casarina and a nightcliff
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  Speaker 2: and of course the city behind here were are the
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  Speaker 2: police officer on the.
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  Speaker 1: Street, So you're obviously questioning, you know, why they've knocked
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  Speaker 1: it back when other places are doing it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's the police to answer, but I recalled very well,
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  Speaker 2: and I actually downloaded and read the two or Salivan reports,
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  Speaker 2: one in two thousand and three, the other one twenty twelve,
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  Speaker 2: and both of them and their recommendation said more foot patrols. Corn,
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  Speaker 2: just so sorry. I don't attack the police here. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just telling me, telling to you and to people who listening,
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  Speaker 2: what the people on the street are telling me. They
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  Speaker 2: haven't seen a police on the streets for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: So you're saying that they want more police on the streets,
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  Speaker 1: and you're conveying what territories are telling you at this point.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Corn, let's move along.
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  Speaker 1: One of the other things that people have been asking
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  Speaker 1: about quite a bit recently is that Rapid Creek footbridge.
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  Speaker 1: Where's that ash.
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  Speaker 2: We actually did some work. We actually the engineers designed
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  Speaker 2: some temporary measures to actually operate temporarily. We've been going
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  Speaker 2: we went out for quotes last week. We're waiting the
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  Speaker 2: quotes to come back next week. So we'll do some
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  Speaker 2: temporary work rather than a permanent work because we're going
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  Speaker 2: to find another permanent solution. That bridge will be rectified
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  Speaker 2: to temporarily open to traffic until we establish the perirmans.
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  Speaker 1: So is that the Rapid Creek in the Jingly one
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  Speaker 1: the same one. Yes, yes, and so essentially looking at
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  Speaker 1: what you can do temporarily.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the bridge its structuring and sound as is now.
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  Speaker 2: We're trying to actually make it structure sound for the
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  Speaker 2: safety of the public. We have to work with the
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  Speaker 2: government because Rapid Creek is a very sensitive area and
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  Speaker 2: we have to actually work with the government to disturb
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  Speaker 2: the place. We don't want to damage Ropit Creek.
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  Speaker 1: Colin, before I let you go this morning a Christmas pageant.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to be having our first sever Christmas pageant,
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  Speaker 1: are we Yeah? Hey, what's going on here?
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  Speaker 2: It's got to be big, It's going to be good.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to bring people to the city. It's going
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  Speaker 2: to activate the city. And we work together with another
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  Speaker 2: territory government and the purpose for that is actually to
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  Speaker 2: do a series of events that will attract people in
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  Speaker 2: the city and boost the economy in the CBD. I
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  Speaker 2: know that Casuarina and Gateway and other bigs of accenters
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  Speaker 2: do decoration. We want to do more than just the coreation.
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  Speaker 2: We want to actually give opportunity to keep for people,
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  Speaker 2: bring the kids to see things. The lights the three events,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not going to tell you what events we're
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  Speaker 2: going to do because we have finalized yet the range
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  Speaker 2: of events.
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  Speaker 1: I think the big question on everybody's lips is is
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  Speaker 1: Santa Claus going to be there?
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  Speaker 2: Can you have Christmas without sunder clause? Find that very much. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: there would be Sunday clause, and yes there will be
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  Speaker 2: Santa Claus cave. It's Christmas, it's not Holidays.
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  Speaker 1: Cornbat scarless. Well, leave it good to catch up with you.
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  Speaker 2: As always, I don't forget to put your rabbish out
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  Speaker 2: on one Monday because that's the second round of a
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  Speaker 2: clean up. And I'll tell you what. Last year we
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  Speaker 2: actually collected six hundred tons of waste.
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  Speaker 1: People have dead sish in like perap in some of
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  Speaker 1: the other areas. They've got washing machines that look new. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: if you're trying to take your house out, I reckon
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  Speaker 1: you can just drive around and find a few.
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  Speaker 2: Think here were collected seventy five tons of white goods.
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  Speaker 1: So with the white goods and stuff that are in
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  Speaker 1: pretty good nick, do they again that then get sold
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  Speaker 1: out at the tip shop or what happens.
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  Speaker 2: All the things that don't go to tip go to
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  Speaker 2: HPA excellent, get buye second hand everything
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  Speaker 1: Wonderful to hear combat Scarl's good to catch up with
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  Speaker 1: you as always, Thank you,